h1-discussion

[high island]

Buy Centaur Heart and Pom.

[ocean arch]

Wdym? My current strategy is apply weak and doom, which triggers the duo boon that extends Doom and then just use special and attack.

I have 2 sources of weak and one source of doom

[twin thistle]

plume strats

[polar quail]

She means what boons do you have

[versed moon]

the 100 pom

[chrome wharf]

Meaning the list of boons you have

[twin thistle]

i think thats what nyaa means by your build

also curse of longing kinda meh

[high island]

Yep.

[high island]

Silence, heathen.

[chrome wharf]

It's ok if the doom source is slow

Treat it like hangover

[versed moon]

pom frost static dis or pressure

[chrome wharf]

Is your static L2

[high island]

Pom Static Discharge.

[gray apex]

Static Discharge should be good here

[high island]

Easy pick.

[twin thistle]

pom the one thats actually giving you damage aka jolted

pressure points 2% global damage increase op

[versed moon]

HADES TIME

i will feel rlly bad if i dont win

[chrome wharf]

remember you can block

[versed moon]

wasting everyones time

[ocean arch]

Keepsake: pierced butterfly

Heartbreak strike l 3, atrophic flourish, curse of pain L2, swift strike,urge to kill,passion dash, hoarding slash, Artemis aid, support fire, super nova, curse of longing.@high island

[brisk trail]

does seastorm have a lightning cooldown

[chrome wharf]

But dash striking removes iframes

[gray apex]

Go for crystal beam imo

[versed moon]

250 hp 2 DD and lucky tooth i should be able to do this

[ocean arch]

I can'tt, no Demeter tunnels

[gray apex]

Sadge

Missed the best boon in the game

[ocean arch]

I find it awkward tbh

[high island]

Alright. Yeah, I wouldn't have taken Passion Dash there because your Attack is enough for applying Weak and leaving the slot open for Hunter Dash or maybe Divine Dash is good.

Make sure you get poms on your Call. It's pretty weak at Lv.1, but at Lv.3 it becomes great for burst damage in boss fights.

[chrome wharf]

Also swap the butterfly out for something else

[ocean arch]

Should I buy the poms at Charon then?

[twin thistle]

butterfly

[high island]

Also poms on Curse of Pain and Passion Dash maybe.

[high island]

Yeah sure.

[ocean arch]

What should I use?

[chrome wharf]

Where are you

[ocean arch]

I don't think hoarding slash is that good

[gray apex]

Defensive keepsakes are good for Elysium and Styx

[brisk trail]

its so bad

[twin thistle]

acorn

[high island]

It's bad yeah lol.

[ocean arch]

Temple

[twin thistle]

hoarding is kinda trash

[chrome wharf]

Well it's too late

next time you know

[ocean arch]

Prophecy tho

[high island]

Acorn if you have it. Lucky Tooth otherwise.

[gray apex]

It’s ok not like we have good sword hammers besides dedge

[twin thistle]

prophecy is stonks

[ocean arch]

Do I do the tunnels first?

[twin thistle]

best part about hoarding is it isnt a status curse

[chrome wharf]

at least it doesn't actively screw you over cough dash nova

[ocean arch]

World splitter is my least fav

[gray apex]

You have to do the tunnels yea

[chrome wharf]

tis our standards for sword hammers

[high island]

Usually you wanna do miniboss tunnels first.

[ocean arch]

Ah k

[versed moon]

OMG u werent kidding yesterday

TWO

TWO

[high island]

You probably won't need to do all 5 tunnels.

[versed moon]

TWO HEALTH BARS

[high island]

It's nice to have DDs.

[brisk trail]

LOL GOTEM

[ocean arch]

Athena, pom, heart, Hermes and money

[versed moon]

plot twist fr

[twin thistle]

two + two + two . woah thats a lot of health bars

[ocean arch]

The skull is on the pom and the heart

[twin thistle]

if you have death defiances. why cant dad have em

[ocean arch]

Idk what the skull means tho

[high island]

Centaur Heart first.

[gray apex]

Skull = miniboss

[versed moon]

first DD gone

[high island]

Skull with a little arrow means miniboss.

[ocean arch]

Ah

[twin thistle]

also means better rewards

[high island]

Yep.

[ocean arch]

Qh

[high island]

Double reward or high rarity boon.

Like, that Centaur Heart is +50 HP.

[ocean arch]

Oh damnn

I'm at 225 already

[brisk trail]

with purple life affirmation it gives 71

[ocean arch]

And I have 2 DDs

[high island]

You sure it's not multiplicative?

[ocean arch]

3

[polar quail]

It’d be really crazy if he could have three later on

[versed moon]

2nd DD gone

IM SO CLOSE PLSS

[ocean arch]

Do ittt

[twin thistle]

i think focusing would help

[high island]

@versed moon stay calm, focus on doing a clean fight, don't focus on his HP.

[brisk trail]

yea we dont need real time updates, focus on the fight lol

[polar quail]

Good luck

[wary mural]

im at 305

hades time

[versed moon]

GGs

[ocean arch]

Damn the tiny vermin sucks

[versed moon]

EZ clap

i would like to thank everyone who helped through this im very thankfull for ur time and advice

[brisk trail]

post ss in vic boast

no need to embed

[ocean arch]

Done heart, what next?

[high island]

Glad to see you took my advice. Hope you learned plenty during the run.

[brisk trail]

heart

[ocean arch]

Heart

I did the heart smh my brain

[high island]

Lol

[versed moon]

i did ty

[high island]

Double Pom next.

It's not gonna be another Tiny Vermin.

[brisk trail]

either gonna be big satyr or big laser rock

[gray apex]

Might be a not so tiny vermin this time

[brisk trail]

or big bomb lobber

[versed moon]

i didnt know there is clear time ! I wouldnt have stayed afk

[ocean arch]

I hate the stayrs

[versed moon]

https://imgur.com/a/TmLrRPm

[high island]

Lol don't worry about clear time. A win is a win.

[polar quail]

It’s not a big deal until you use a timer

[high island]

#h1-victory-boasting

[polar quail]

Or speedrunning

[high island]

Not a single boon, what a horrible build.

[ocean arch]

I upgraded Artemis aid to level 4

[high island]

Nice nice.

[ocean arch]

I got a stonewhal!

Woo

[high island]

Woo~!

[ocean arch]

Also I have 1k coins, I'm guessing I just buy what I can?

Centaur heart, Poseidon, 2 double poms

[versed moon]

well now ill have my time with the story i hope there is cool stuff

[gray apex]

If you eat it you get +50 hp

[high island]

@ocean arch did you get the stuff for Cerberus yet?

[ocean arch]

Yep

There's also an anvil

[high island]

Buy the Diamond/Titan Blood if you can afford it.

[chrome wharf]

eh don't anvil the sword

[gray apex]

Sword anvil is ambitious

[ocean arch]

I cannot

[gray apex]

So many hammers actively hurt you or don’t do anything

[polar quail]

cursed slash anvil

[gray apex]

Only like 2 are actually good

[ocean arch]

Ah

[twin thistle]

well still requires clears

[ocean arch]

I have the super nova and hoarding slash

[twin thistle]

sword anvil is essentially suicide

[gray apex]

Yea they’re not the best but they don’t hurt you atleast which is a win on sword

[high island]

Just buy everything that's not an Anvil. Poms first.

[fathom mango]

u could save before u buy then buy if u dont like alt f4

[brisk trail]

sword anvil be like: lose dedge, gain dash nova cursed slash

[gray apex]

Hammers you’re looking for are Double Edge and Piercing Wave, Double Edge being the best

[twin thistle]

anviling when you have the only good sword hammer

[ocean arch]

Passion dash to level 3, Artemis aid to lvl 6 or urge to kill lvl 3?

[high island]

Dash or Call both good.

[twin thistle]

im questioning why urge to kill is lvl 2 to begin with

[gray apex]

[ocean arch]

It's a double pom

[brisk trail]

its a double pom

[high island]

It's a double pom.

[twin thistle]

so a octuple pom

[high island]

Yes.

[chrome wharf]

a hextupom

[twin thistle]

gotcha

[high island]

Also yes.

[ocean arch]

Passion dash lvl 3, art aid lvl 8, support fire level 3?

[chrome wharf]

oh sorry I thought comment buffs were additive

Dash

[high island]

Dash or Call still.

[brisk trail]

dash

[high island]

They're both.

[polar quail]

Dash

[lone oxide]

Should i get urge to kill or curse of vengeance

[twin thistle]

depends

[brisk trail]

CoV good for hangover build

[ocean arch]

Damn I got all the money Poseidon boons, flood shot it is I guess

[high island]

Dash pom isn't much better than Call pom there. You're all wrong.

[high island]

Probably not Flood Shot.

[twin thistle]

flood shot aint gunna do much against dad

[gray apex]

Pom support fire

[ocean arch]

Well what else was there?

[twin thistle]

well you said money boons so i assume sunken treasure

[ocean arch]

I guess I could got sunken treasure but idk, I wanna win

[twin thistle]

well pick that if you wanna win

[polar quail]

The call is already level 8 so may as well

[brisk trail]

susken treasure

[high island]

What was the third option?

[ocean arch]

The two money boons and flood shot

[brisk trail]

prob oceans bounty

[high island]

Ah. Just pick whatever then. Doesn't really matter.

[twin thistle]

sunken is free health unless ur at max

[high island]

It's also some meta resources.

[ocean arch]

Nah I was at max

Ahhh nervous

[twin thistle]

actually how much gold does sunken give anyways

[gray apex]

Same

[high island]

Just focus on a clean fight. Don't focus on anything else.

[gray apex]

Going into the fight atm

[twin thistle]

prolly more than 50

unless theres nothing to buy

[gray apex]

There’s the anvil

[high island]

There was nothing else to buy.

[gray apex]

[twin thistle]

[chrome wharf]

[brisk trail]

yall be like dash strike are good on sword but dont like the hammer with dash in its name

dash nova fun

[chrome wharf]

That's not a dash strike

[high island]

I like Dash Nova.

[gray apex]

It makes me dizzy if anything

[polar quail]

534 pages of

[brisk trail]

several people are typing

[ocean arch]

Wait what's it mean when boiling blood comes up in red?

[chrome wharf]

You're now taking more dmg

[brisk trail]

its like zags mirror talent

[ocean arch]

Ah

[brisk trail]

U take double dmg if his cast stone is in u

[gray apex]

When a skull gets lodged into Zag he takes extra damage yea

[twin thistle]

so uh

dont get hit

[high island]

Technically it's +100% damage.

[gray apex]

Good thing hades cant backstab

[brisk trail]

true

[twin thistle]

200 damage spear throws imagine

[high island]

It's a good idea to just focus on evasion until it drops out.

[brisk trail]

sad myrmidon bracer noises

[high island]

At least until you have a lot of experience in the fight.

[gray apex]

Yea those spear throws

Would be something

[high island]

If he could throw his spear at you from off-screen for 100+ damage, that'd be broken.

[ocean arch]

Damnnn

Did it

Only used 1 DD

[gray apex]

Hades should have fiery presence then

[brisk trail]

hades spin should make you take +150% dmg

[high island]

You're sure he's not getting back up?

[gray apex]

First hit you take is a 300 damage spear

[high island]

Just checking.

[ocean arch]

Yep

This is my second win

[gray apex]

Good

Well done then

[high island]

Congratulations!

[brisk trail]

hes getting back up in his house

[ocean arch]

I put my controller down when I beat him the first time and he got back up lmao

[ocean arch]

Yes I know

[high island]

All thanks to Lady Aphrodite.

[ocean arch]

Lady Artemis

[gray apex]

[ocean arch]

That greater call did like 4.6k damage

In two attacks

[high island]

And who told you to pom it? Lady Aphrodite's high priestess.

[ocean arch]

Haha

Oki

The story for this game is so sadd

[brisk trail]

it all works out in the end

[high island]

Do you know what happened to Hippolytus, son of Theseus, who dared choose Lady Artemis over Lady Aphrodite?

[ocean arch]

No

[ocean arch]

Simp

Also what mirror talents should I switch round?

[fathom mango]

i mean she is the godess of love so

[versed moon]

Just finished with the story stuff of my first clear

That was pretty and sad

[ocean arch]

Yeah it's super sad

[twin thistle]

now go get back to mom

[high island]

Lady Aphrodite told me that she loves me. Your words can't hurt me.

[twin thistle]

go go

[fathom mango]

first clear isnt the full story btw

theres a lot more

[versed moon]

I know

The credits are after 10 clears i read

[ocean arch]

Also what mirror talents should I switch round? @high island

[versed moon]

And there is an epilogue

[versed moon]

She can wait till tomorrow i need sleep

[ocean arch]

The only thing important is finding mom

[fathom mango]

i like dad more than mom tbh

[versed moon]

Greece is so pretty

[brisk trail]

Gentleman Ares told me murder is ok

[signal aspen]

Same I love it when he kicks my ass and laughs at me at high heat

[high island]

So, Hippolytus only worshipped Lady Artemis and didn't worship Lady Aphrodite, arrogant and stupid as he was. So Lady Aphrodite wisely made his stepmother fall in love with him, who then killed herself after being rejected. And then Theseus asked Poseidon to take care of it, and Poseidon sends a bull who kills Hippolytus.

So it all worked out in the end.

[ocean arch]

Damn

[fathom mango]

i like him cus hes rich

mom aint

[ocean arch]

I would definitely want to join lady Artemis and her lesbian hunters if I could

[brisk trail]

OwO

[fathom mango]

who woulsnt

wouldnt

[ocean arch]

Nyaanaa probably

Also, which mirror talents should I switch?

[fathom mango]

wat do u have noe

now

[polar quail]

Which ones do you have

[ocean arch]

I have all the red ones

[fathom mango]

try fated persuation

or whatever the 4 stone is

[polar quail]

Yeah fated persuasion

[ocean arch]

Oh I don't have the last one, lmao

[high island]

Dark Foresight first and foremost to get more boons.

[ocean arch]

Is that actually a good choice? Or you being a simp

[high island]

I think you're being rude, so who knows.

[polar quail]

Aphrodite generally has useful boons

[ocean arch]

I'm sorry I'm just joking

[signal aspen]

Dark foresight is very good

[twin thistle]

probably the third most important mirror perk

[ocean arch]

Is ruthless reflex ok? Or should I stick with greater

[twin thistle]

only good for shield or gilga

but id use greater for shield anyways

[high island]

Dark Foresight is broken. You should get it asap and max it asap and never look back.

[ocean arch]

I reset my mirror

[polar quail]

I forget which one dark foresight is

[high island]

More gold laurel rewards.

[polar quail]

Yeah I think I use that one

[ocean arch]

What are gold laurels?

[twin thistle]

boons, health, poms, hammers

[wary mural]

yellow doors

[polar quail]

Yep

[fathom mango]

its good if you wanna leave ur rng to the a hole hermes to give u extra dashes

[ocean arch]

Also, seriously thank you @high island and @polar quail for helping me with that run!

[signal aspen]

You're welcome

[polar quail]

You’re welcome

[ocean arch]

And other people! But those are the two I remember

Wait golden touch or deep pockets?

Both seem ok

[polar quail]

Deep pockets

[ocean arch]

Ah k

Thick skin or high conf?

[fathom mango]

thick

[polar quail]

Let’s you start out with 100 obols at the start

I use thick skin

[ocean arch]

Also I turned off God mode

[polar quail]

I never used high confidence so I’m not sure if it’s better. But I would probably still stick with that one

[high island]

Thick Skin until you're more experienced.

[ocean arch]

Oki

[high island]

There are some builds that can easily do High Confidence even if you don't have a lot of experience... but that requires you to know the builds well anyway or somebody to walk you through it. Better to just stick to Thick Skin.

[ocean arch]

So I'm using all reds apart from dark foresight and persuasion?

[high island]

Also swap to Family Favorite over Privileged Status.

[polar quail]

You should save darkness for fated persuasion once you refill your mirror, because it gives you a chance to reroll a boon choice up to 4 times at maximum

[high island]

Unless you're doing a build that you know will go well with Privileged Status right away. Like say Weak + Hangover for Low Tolerance.

[ocean arch]

So only greens are family fav, dark and fated?

[high island]

I'd also default to Fiery Presence, but either one is fine. Some weapon aspects/builds like one over the other.

[ocean arch]

Honestly I suck at backstabbing lmao

[high island]

You don't need to upgrade Fated Persuasion yet when you've unlocked it, but you should swap to it asap because it'll change the rerolls you get from Chthonic Key chambers from Authority rolls to Persuasion rolls, and the latter are much better.

[ocean arch]

Nice

Maxxed everything but pride and persuasion

I'm gonna use the acorn

[high island]

For Tartarus?

[ocean arch]

Should I use another?

[high island]

Yes.

[polar quail]

You should use a gods keepsake

[ocean arch]

The only god's keepsake I have is Artemis

[high island]

What other keepsakes do you have?

[ocean arch]

All of the top row, the egg, shackle and acorn

[polar quail]

You should give the other gods nectar when you see them and unlock their keepsakes.

[ocean arch]

Ye

[high island]

What weapon aspect are you using now?

Follow this Nectar guide btw. https://twitter.com/dianaii__/status/1336090118218801153

DIANA II (@DIANAII__)

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[ocean arch]

Aspect of nemesis

The sword

[feral belfry]

Aphro stole all the nectar you gave to Artey cause she jealous

[high island]

She wouldn't need to do that.

Besides, it's not stealing when Lady Aphrodite takes what she wants and deserves.

Adamant Arrowhead start is good on Nemesis.

You'll want Deadly Strike or Hunter Dash. Probably just pick whichever is higher rarity.

Deadly Strike if both are the same rarity.

[twin thistle]

or just start heartbreak strike

[polar quail]

By getting the gods keepsakes, you can have more control over your build since it’ll force them to show up once. This will add them to your god pool, where you can have 4 gods (not counting Hermes and chaos). After you take 4 gods’ boons you can’t see any different ones appear that run.

[high island]

Naturally, but Ripples only has one god keepsake yet.

[ocean arch]

Is their a heat guide?

[twin thistle]

#h1-high-heat-strategies pins

[wary mural]

actually didnt know this

[polar quail]

Yeah, I just figured I’d tell them that so they know for later

[high island]

That's for 32+ Heat specifically.

[high island]

I was replying to UnAnanas.

[polar quail]

Oops

[twin thistle]

oh yeah the heat progression guide aint pinned there

[high island]

There's a couple heat guides, but for now tbh you're best off just trying out all of the pacts to get experience with them. There's also a prophecy for winning a run with each of the pacts that'll give you lots of Titan Blood.

And a prophecy for getting a clear with each weapon.

I'd suggest aiming for those two first.

Both give lots of Titan Blood.

[feral belfry]

Git that blood

It's worth it

[polar quail]

@ocean arch if you want an easy one to start with, you should try tight deadline

[ocean arch]

It's so awkward how the gods ask you how you seemed so far then are back at the start

[high island]

Well, it's awkward for them, too.

Like, I thought you got out of there. Why are you back where you started?

[ocean arch]

Don't they know you die or smth

[polar quail]

I guess not

[high island]

They can figure that probably something killed Zagreus, but they don't know what happened exactly.

[ocean arch]

Sword hammer time

Nova or piercing wave?

[twin thistle]

which nova

[ocean arch]

Super nova

[high island]

Piercing Wave easily unless the third option is Double Edge.

[ocean arch]

It's cursed slash lmao

[high island]

Piercing Wave and Breaching Slash are the best hammers for Nemesis after Double Edge.

[ocean arch]

That's why I didn't include it

[high island]

Well, always good to include the third option because way too often people leave something out, and then we ask what's the third option, and the third option they left out is easily the best option.

[ocean arch]

Ah yeah

Ares or Dionysus mini boss?

[high island]

What boons do you have now?

Just Deadly Strike or Hunter Dash, probably?

[ocean arch]

Deadly flourish and true shot

[high island]

That's... the wrong core boons from her.

[ocean arch]

:(

I didn't wanna be annoying

[high island]

Your main damage is from Dash-Strikes. Like... the main DPS rotation on Nemesis is Special > Dash-Strike x2 > repeat.

Hmmm. Lord Dionysus and see if you can get Drunken Strike.

Dionysus' Aid if he doesn't offer Drunken Strike.

(Also, don't take any more Hangover boons from him once you already have one source of Hangover.)

If he doesn't offer either, take anything that isn't Drunken Dash.

Ideally Premium Vintage or Strong Drink.

[twin thistle]

or just hope for aphro

[high island]

...she wasn't an option here.

[ocean arch]

I got strike

[high island]

Nice nice. Make sure you put plenty of poms on that.

[twin thistle]

smh

[ocean arch]

tidal dash, Poseidons aid, or hydraulic might

[high island]

Tidal Dash is strong.

Also put plenty of poms on that.

And try to get some tier 2 boons from Poseidon.

[ocean arch]

You think poms grow on trees? /S

[high island]

Razor Shoals, Wave Pounding, etc.

Well, you have Dark Foresight now, so you'll see plenty.

[ocean arch]

Artemis or Dionysus for a trial first?

[high island]

Follow your heart.

[polar quail]

People say artemis is easier so do Dionysus.

[high island]

They're both free.

[ocean arch]

Vintage, peer pressure or aid?

[high island]

Premium Vintage.

Having multiple sources of Hangover doesn't do anything for you since they'll just end up overwriting each other.

And you already have Hangover on Attack.

[polar quail]

I don’t really notice a difference in difficulty between them. As long as you always pick Aphrodite when she’s there, and always not pick Athena. Oh and if Demeter is a trial god you should pick her first

[high island]

And Peer Pressure is just simply the worst boon in the game.

[polar quail]

Yeah I like vintage for the free nectar

[ocean arch]

Ah k

I'm guessing I want Artemis aid?

[high island]

Probably not.

[ocean arch]

Otherwise hunters mark or exit wound

[high island]

You want Hunter Dash and Hunter's Mark.

Hunter's Mark, then.

[polar quail]

Hunters mark

[high island]

Also poms on that btw.

[brisk trail]

athena in elysium is really annoying though; the respawning eyeballs just get free spawns

[high island]

So that gives you three excellent pom targets now: Drunken Strike, Tidal Dash, Hunter's Mark.

[polar quail]

Yeah. I had Athena in elysium once and it was very annoying

[brisk trail]

and if you're running one of the timer pacts it can easily waste a ton of time compared to just dodging damage

[ocean arch]

Do I buy anything?

Hermes, Poseidon or darkness

[high island]

Definitely buy the Darkness since you still need plenty of that. That's always good.

And then either one is fine if you can afford it. Probably Lord Hermes, but Poseidon is good, too.

[brisk trail]

John Cena

https://tenor.com/view/beast-mode-wwe-wwf-wrestling-gif-24090114

[high island]

An empty ring. What about it?

[brisk trail]

just thought it was funny

jsut a bunch of random effects

flying around

[polar quail]

Theseus when he calls Zeus

[brisk trail]

wdym

wait

can you see someone in the ring?

weird

[polar quail]

Idk i tried to make it related to hades in some way

[twin thistle]

what

[craggy verge]

Aphro trial is the worst

She's merciless

Homing hearts

[polar quail]

Exactly it’s so annoying

[brisk trail]

yea its my least favorite

[craggy verge]

Imagine if Theseus got like multiple homing hearts

[brisk trail]

imagine if zagreas could have homing hearts

aprho call bad

[craggy verge]

Aphro call looks fun

But needs some.investment

[polar quail]

It needs to be charged up, I don’t expect to ever use charm

[high island]

?

Common Lv.1 Aphrodite's Aid is better burst damage than Lv.1 Artemis' Aid by quite a bit.

Charm is also great, especially with Smair.

[ocean arch]

Damn I chose the pact that gives the bosses an extra move and damn the fury fight was hard

[high island]

lol nice.

Extreme Measures at 1, right?

[polar quail]

I’ve never used it with smoldering air.

[high island]

The bosses after that will be normal.

[ocean arch]

I only have 1dd left lmao

[polar quail]

I don’t think charm is useless, I just haven’t used it much.

[high island]

EM1 affects only the first boss. EM2 affects the first two bosses. EM3 affects the first three bosses.

[brisk trail]

smair aphro call sounds useless

zues way better

[high island]

That's fine. Plenty of opportunity to get it back.

Did you pick up any new keepsakes during the run?

[signal aspen]

It stubs bosses which is very nice

Stuns

Frick

[high island]

You can practically perma-charm Hades with it lol.

[polar quail]

Zeus is probably better overall though

[brisk trail]

pls dont beat up a panda

[ocean arch]

Oh damn I forgot lmaoo

[high island]

Take the Chthonic Coin Purse into Asphodel then.

[brisk trail]

yea but it barely does anything in normal encounters

[high island]

It does plenty.

[ocean arch]

Noo :(

Am dumb

Forgot to switch

[polar quail]

I’ve made that mistake before

[high island]

Not dumb, just inexperienced lol. That said, experienced players all have done that and all still do that on occasion.

Just on fewer occasions.

It's good to make a habit of check the Well > check keepsakes between biomes.

[twin thistle]

charm is really good especially in high heat elysium

[ocean arch]

Ares or pom?

[high island]

Pom.

[polar quail]

Pom

[high island]

His Call is terrible, and he doesn't have any good support boons for Nemesis either. So there's nothing really he could offer you that's good.

[twin thistle]

tbh i take aphro trial pretty often. if you ddash into a heart itll also break it

[ocean arch]

Drunk strike, tidal dash or hunters mark?

[brisk trail]

I am obsessed with this game

someone help me

lol

[high island]

https://i.imgur.com/W5NAKRF.jpg

No, pom Tidal Dash.

[brisk trail]

Is there an online Hades yet?

[twin thistle]

no if you mean some type of multiplayer

the game is done with development

[high island]

There's a type of online multiplayer. Speedrun racing.

[oak ibex]

#Nyoooooooooom

[ocean arch]

I've pommed dash now anyway

[oak ibex]

Hades but Zagreus Naruto runs everywhere

[high island]

Good. The first few poms on Tidal Dash are very powerful.

[raw herald]

Very

Level 1 common to level 3 is over 100% increase

[craggy verge]

Ares call is bad? Oof I kinda like the invuln

[ocean arch]

Blood frenzy, battle rage or curse?

Of vengeance

[chrome wharf]

The invuln just isn't as good as Athena's invuln

And won't deflect 23 archer arrows back into them

[high island]

Any Call gives i-frames on activation. Invulnerability for the full duration is good, but the DPS drop from activating the Call is terrible. There are just way better options.

And it pollutes your pom pool, too.

[craggy verge]

I see, I like it better than Athena call

[ocean arch]

Blood frenzy, battle rage or curse of vengeance

[high island]

Curse of Vengeance will unlock his Duo Boon with Lord Dionysus.

[polar quail]

Never used ares’ call

[high island]

Which will help your Hangover damage quite a bit if you can get it.

So you'll want to take that.

[craggy verge]

I also like it better than Poseidon call

[raw herald]

Ares call feels terrible honestly

[craggy verge]

[raw herald]

It’s less DPS than Zeus call and stops yoy from attacking

However

It does look cool

[craggy verge]

But makes you invuln so you just sit on someone

[chrome wharf]

It's fun when you have blade dash

Play where's Waldo

[twin thistle]

then get hit when you run outta call gauge

[high island]

You can just dash immediately to solve that problem, at least.

[craggy verge]

Dios my fav

[raw herald]

My favourite way to play ares call is to take the epic boon in c13 then sell it straight after furies

Yeah dio call is awesome

[craggy verge]

I never find much use out of Athena

[raw herald]

Deflect is strong

[craggy verge]

But tje call dpesnt do any damage

[raw herald]

But you do

And the call doesn’t stop you from doing damage

[twin thistle]

i frames means youre free to deal damage

[ocean arch]

Dionysus or pom?

[twin thistle]

without having to worry about dodging at all

[signal aspen]

The call is a higher dps boost than ares call

[craggy verge]

[chrome wharf]

If only it pulsed some bigg doom or let you attack during it

[high island]

Lord Dionysus.

[brisk trail]

ares call does negative dmg

[high island]

It damages me when I see newer players take that and I couldn't warn them in time.

[brisk trail]

how much hp?

[high island]

All of it.

[brisk trail]

[high island]

Yeah. That's me after getting hit by it.

Where did you find that photo?

[brisk trail]

tempest strike, tempest flourish, or tidal dash?

probably dash

[polar quail]

Dash

[brisk trail]

kk

[twin thistle]

depends tm

[craggy verge]

What if I still take it

[high island]

It's fine if you like it lol.

It's not that bad.

[ocean arch]

Peer pressure, after party or numbing sensation

[high island]

Which weapon?

Probably Tidal Dash.

[craggy verge]

I pommed Ares call to level 6

[brisk trail]

heartbreak strike, crush shot, or wave of despair

[brisk trail]

I already chose

dash

[high island]

Which weapon?

[twin thistle]

depends tm

[brisk trail]

rail

that's what hades does so well, pretty much everything is at least decent so you don't always feel horrible for taking sub-optimal boons

[polar quail]

Strike

[brisk trail]

kk

[twin thistle]

rail

[high island]

Which rail aspect? Or just base rail?

[twin thistle]

dont unless it hestia

[brisk trail]

extra bullets

[signal aspen]

Numbing

[brisk trail]

thats all

[high island]

Yeah, not Heartbreak Strike.

[twin thistle]

[brisk trail]

mk

then what?

strike on rail moment

[high island]

Either one is fine. Just not Heartbreak Strike.

[brisk trail]

💀 k

[polar quail]

I never used base rail

I just went to eris and did lightning strike

[high island]

You'll want Lightning Strike or Drunken Strike for your Attack. Ideally Lightning Strike.

[brisk trail]

zeus with rail and his shield aspect carried me to 32 heat

[ocean arch]

Hyper sprint, swift strike or quick reload?

[high island]

A % Attack boon only if you have Spread Fire.

Hyper Sprint.

[twin thistle]

hypersprint

[signal aspen]

Quick reload

[brisk trail]

k!

[high island]

Trolling is not nice.

[polar quail]

Yes lightning strike is good

[craggy verge]

Eris sure is a lot better than base rail

[high island]

Hyper Sprint + Rush Delivery is the most powerful combo you can get from Lord Hermes, so Hyper Sprint is great if you can get it from his first boon.

[brisk trail]

I always thought zeus and dio were horrible until I started using g u n

[craggy verge]

Hyper Sprint is really good

[brisk trail]

k thanks

[high island]

It's also just very good on its own.

[polar quail]

Zeus and dio together are great for scintillating feast

[craggy verge]

lets you dodge stuff and dmg reduction

[twin thistle]

zeus is pretty good for quite a few aspects

[craggy verge]

Zeus has pretty good standalone boons

[raw herald]

Divine dash is prettt good, underrated by the community

[polar quail]

His call, static discharge, the attack, even the dash is ok if you don’t have a better option

[signal aspen]

Idk man as someone with around 10 40 Heat runs under my belt I will literally always take Divine Dash over pretty much everything. Unless the build really requires a specific dash to create a broken interaction, Divine Dash is good with every build, every weapon, and is simply incredible. I agree with the top post of this comment chain that 8.5 is a little weird for easily the best Dash in the game

[ocean arch]

Elysium keepsake?

Acorn?

[raw herald]

Yeah

[polar quail]

Yes

[twin thistle]

prolly

[craggy verge]

Divine Dash is my fav dash anyways

doesnt need investment

[raw herald]

Could go black shawl if you’re an absolute chad

[craggy verge]

and just helps a lot

[raw herald]

Idek what black shawl does

[brisk trail]

Hazard bomb, seeking fire, or rocket bomb?

for rail

[signal aspen]

Rocket

[polar quail]

Is black shawl the backstab damage one

[craggy verge]

Rocket

[polar quail]

Rocketsss

[craggy verge]

Hazard Bomb is fun though

[brisk trail]

rocket

[signal aspen]

Yeah backstab and first strike damage

[ocean arch]

Pom or heart? 155 life

[signal aspen]

Heart

[brisk trail]

k thanks

[raw herald]

Lovin these quick fire questions

[craggy verge]

Hearts are worth 125 gold, Poms are 100

[ocean arch]

Ye

[raw herald]

Poms are worth nothing if you die

[polar quail]

I always pick a heart if I don’t have 200 health, unless I need a boon as the other option

[high island]

Trolling is not nice.

[raw herald]

Gonna save this for the next time you say curse of longing is good

[craggy verge]

How bout Feather Duster

[high island]

Curse of Longing is good.

You're just playing wrong.

[craggy verge]

I totally thought that heirloom was op when I got it

cos like free healing

[raw herald]

Trolling is not nice.

[signal aspen]

Loggers 6% to gain 10 health per room

[brisk trail]

Deadly strike, deadly flourish, or true shot?

[signal aspen]

Poggers

[brisk trail]

from artemis

[signal aspen]

Frick

[raw herald]

Flourish

[polar quail]

Flourish

[brisk trail]

imo it's boon>gold>pom>heart unless you're still at 50hp in asphodel

[craggy verge]

but then it turns out its not every pot

[polar quail]

Artemis on the special is very good on the rail

[high island]

See, you can't use Dusa's emote for that. I know for a fact she's on my side.

Got 'em.

[raw herald]

Brb about to knock oht a low 7

[signal aspen]

🔫

[craggy verge]

I often take hearts over Poms

unless I got a cast build

[brisk trail]

ty Demonking2003 and Aoeui

[high island]

See you after two days of Tartarus.

[craggy verge]

and boons it depends on god

i hate taking like Demeter

[raw herald]

:croven:

[signal aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/892895316293066792.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[ocean arch]

Pom>

Drunk lvl 4
Deadly lv3
Curse of vengeance>lvl 2

[brisk trail]

yeah but boon is assuming they're the god your build is based around or will significantly benefit from

[raw herald]

Drunk

[brisk trail]

drunk

[ocean arch]

Drunken strike

[high island]

Attack, yeah.

[signal aspen]

Deadly

[high island]

Hangover poms are always good.

[raw herald]

Level 4 drunk pretty relatable

[craggy verge]

mood

[raw herald]

Actually vengeance poms are really good

Might want to Pom that

[brisk trail]

I wish I could send ss to make it easier

[raw herald]

But also you shouldn’t be getting hit so…

[brisk trail]

instead of typing

[high island]

Boon > Centaur Heart > pom = obols is a decent rule of thumb whenever you're in doubt. That's just simply going by monetary value.

[craggy verge]

Ares Vengeance is pretty nice

Yea monetary value hype

[raw herald]

Skipping a free ares only to buy ares in the shop

[high island]

You can just upload images to imgur or a private Discord server or something and direct-link the image.

Link embeds work just fine.

[brisk trail]

can I just dm you about it?

Nyaanyaa?

if not then that fine

[high island]

I'd suggest you just make an imgur profile real quick or make your own private discord server, which is also pretty fast. Makes it much easier to share any screenshots in the future.

[ocean arch]

Ares Artemis or Hermes?

[brisk trail]

wdym

[high island]

Lord Hermes.

[signal aspen]

Hermes

[high island]

We have a shot at getting Rush Delivery, so we're going for that.

[raw herald]

Common greater haste

[brisk trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935715646770147370/935715671143219280/unknown.png

there we go

[high island]

Hey, it unlocks Rush Delivery. Can't complain.

[raw herald]

Dash

[brisk trail]

k

[high island]

Pom Tidal Dash.

When in doubt, pom Tidal Dash.

[brisk trail]

pom or churons shop?

[raw herald]

Do you have money

[brisk trail]

got like 112

so nah

[high island]

You can just take the free pom.

[raw herald]

Just take Pom

[brisk trail]

kk

[ocean arch]

I got greater haste, side hustle and quick recovery

[high island]

But shop is fine, too. It's a free room in the worst case.

[raw herald]

Side hustle

[high island]

What rarity is Greater Haste?

[brisk trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935715646770147370/935716142952103936/unknown.png

[ocean arch]

Normal

[brisk trail]

dash?

[raw herald]

Yah

[signal aspen]

Dash

[high island]

Dash.

Yeah, Side Hustle.

[polar quail]

I love side hustle

[raw herald]

I’ve been underrating side hustle a ton over the last like 1200 runs, it’s actually kinda nice

[high island]

I don't like Side Hustle because it made his boon pool worse when they added it.

[raw herald]

Use golden touch

[high island]

But then again, they added Rush Delivery in the same patch.

[raw herald]

Side hustle never shows up

[brisk trail]

bro

meg

just killed herself

on her own trp

trap

💀

[high island]

Yeah, they do that.

[brisk trail]

lol

[polar quail]

What does rush delivery do? Heal if you dash in time?

[ocean arch]

Dionysus or charon? 800 obols

[high island]

To be fair, Zagreus does it a lot, too.

[brisk trail]

fr

[high island]

That's Quick Recovery.

[raw herald]

Movement speed becomes damage

So eg if you have hyper sprint, when you dash you also deal extra damage

[polar quail]

You can take the shop

[high island]

What chamber are you in now?

[ocean arch]

30

[high island]

Shop.

Not worth getting into any more Elysium encounters than necessary.

[raw herald]

I love elysium

Such pretty colours

[ocean arch]

Pom and poseidon

[polar quail]

I thought it looked really nice when I first saw it

[raw herald]

Both

[high island]

Pom first, then boon.

[raw herald]

What if the Poseidon boon is a mega good Pom target

[brisk trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935715646770147370/935717434965499985/unknown.png

[raw herald]

Evasion

[high island]

What if it isn't.

[brisk trail]

k

[ocean arch]

Flourish dash or mark

[high island]

Hunter's Mark.

[raw herald]

Buy a new copy of hades the game

[high island]

Dash is Tidal Dash, right? I guess that works, too.

[ocean arch]

Aid, shoals or bounty

[high island]

Razor Shoals is great.

[raw herald]

Shoals

oop

[ocean arch]

Artemis or pom?

[raw herald]

If you’ve not got PP take Artemis

[high island]

Yes.

[raw herald]

PP is pressure points btw

[brisk trail]

zeus or poseidon?

[raw herald]

Have you got Zeus strike yet

If not, Zeus

[brisk trail]

nope

[polar quail]

Zeus

[brisk trail]

kk

[high island]

It's Nemesis anyway, so Pressure Points isn't gonna make a huge difference if we already have Hunter's Mark. Pom is fine, too. Probably barely makes a difference. But boon has a shot at Splitting Headache.

[raw herald]

PP is so good with shoals

[high island]

So is a pom on Razor Shoals.

[raw herald]

Muh global damage

[brisk trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935715646770147370/935718632955211816/unknown.png

[raw herald]

Strike

[twin thistle]

2% op

[ocean arch]

Clean kill, mirage shot or pp

[raw herald]

Pp

[high island]

Lightning Strike is the #1 boon you want on any rail that isn't Hestia.

[twin thistle]

mirage good gold if you find a well

[high island]

And then after that, Tidal Dash (which you already have) and Static Discharge (from Lord Zeus).

[raw herald]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/878431986371407902/2021082101123900-C7D8C4153CC9802713604F54C53304E0.jpg

[ocean arch]

Is pp really that good?

[raw herald]

Yeah if you have mark

[twin thistle]

its good for marked

[raw herald]

It’s less important if you’re using nemesis tho

But still good

[ocean arch]

Ah I did it

[twin thistle]

otherwise is a whole 4-8% free global damage plus 2% per pom

[high island]

My condolences.

[ocean arch]

hammer or money?

[twin thistle]

hammer

[raw herald]

Hamma time

[ocean arch]

Pp is crit chance??

[brisk trail]

poseidon, or minotaur heart?

[raw herald]

Crits are global

Poseidon

[brisk trail]

k

[twin thistle]

yeah which translates into global damage increases

[high island]

Centaur Heart by the way.

As in, not a Minotaur Heart.

[twin thistle]

crit chance * 2 (or 3.5 with heartrend) = basically your global damage increase

[high island]

But take Poseidon's boon, yeah.

[ocean arch]

Breach or flurry?

[brisk trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935715646770147370/935719584642781205/unknown.png

[raw herald]

Poseidon can give you boiling point or huge catch

[twin thistle]

disclaimer: additive with other critcal chance increase effective damage increase something something

[raw herald]

Shoals

[brisk trail]

kk

[craggy verge]

Cant get Minotaur hearts cos it belongs to Theseus

[raw herald]

Breaching slash

[high island]

What's #3?

[ocean arch]

World splitter

[twin thistle]

also it me or should this channel be renamed to #requestbackseating

[raw herald]

B I G C H O P

[ocean arch]

I refuse to use

Bad animation

[high island]

Yep. Like I said earlier, Piercing Wave and Breaching Slash are the best sword hammers after Double Edge.

[raw herald]

Nows your chance to do a big chop

[ocean arch]

I'm sorrrrry

[high island]

It's you.

[polar quail]

Nah it should be renamed #worshipbouldy

[brisk trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935715646770147370/935720057269530624/unknown.png

[raw herald]

Do you have rocket bomb

[brisk trail]

mhm

[high island]

Usually these questions are better for #h1-builds-and-combat, but it's been going on for so long now today in here.

[raw herald]

Hydraulic

[polar quail]

It would fit more

[twin thistle]

praise the boulder https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/825862916561305643/933188394119462932/835377117616668692.gif

[raw herald]

That boulder is such an exquisite fellow

[polar quail]

Bouldy spam channel when?

[raw herald]

Hope he has a good day

[high island]

All channels are Bouldy spam channels.

[polar quail]

Praise Bouldy

[high island]

m sure the mods would agree.

I mean, why wouldn't they?

[brisk trail]

I died

😭

to the hydra

mb i was at 30 hp

when I fought him

[raw herald]

Rip 😦

[high island]

Have you tried not getting hit?

[brisk trail]

wait

thats possible?

I can just become John Cena

Thanks

[polar quail]

It is

[brisk trail]

im jk

[high island]

Yeah, Hypnos told me and I tried and it worked like a charm.

[ocean arch]

Strong drink, splitting head, positive outlook?

[brisk trail]

but one of the heads was glitched and I couldnt hit it

but it was dmging me

[high island]

Splitting Headache.

[raw herald]

Hypnos is basically telling you that you’re a skill issue rofl

[high island]

Thanks, Amir.

[brisk trail]

?

[raw herald]

Amir is a dev

We blame amir when we get bad luck even though he has nothing to do with that particular luck

[brisk trail]

lmao

ngl

hades ruins my day

whenever I die

he says some rude stuff

[high island]

Wdym he has nothing to do with it?

He's the one pulling the levers.

[polar quail]

He clearly did that on purpose

[raw herald]

Amir sacking me out of a 4:35 elysium exit 😈

[polar quail]

He’s manipulating the game for his own amusement

[high island]

You should consider sending him an angry DM.

[raw herald]

Amir giving me a jacked af build from a 5:46 😂

[high island]

Yes. And Greg trolls you when you die.

[ocean arch]

Damn I did bad on Theseus fight

[high island]

Greg voices Hypnos. And he wrote all of the dialogue.

Including Hypnos's lines.

[raw herald]

I thought Hypnos was a woman at first

[brisk trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935715646770147370/935721962221752320/unknown.png

[raw herald]

Ngl I played hades cos it got 10/10 on Nintendo life

[high island]

That's also Greg trolling you, probably.

[raw herald]

Not cos of Greek mythology

[high island]

I play Hades because SGG.

[brisk trail]

which one 😭

[raw herald]

What wep

[brisk trail]

rail

[raw herald]

Dash or shot

Did you like tidal dash

[brisk trail]

eh

yea

ig

[high island]

Dash is safe.

[polar quail]

So I wasn’t the only one

[brisk trail]

ight

[polar quail]

I thought Hypnos was an old lady

[brisk trail]

Dash it is.

[polar quail]

There’s 2 Athena core boons I find useful, the dash and call.

[brisk trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935715646770147370/935722813489291334/unknown.png

[polar quail]

And the attack when I use fists

[polar quail]

Hydraulic might or sunken treasure

Are you still using the rail?

[twin thistle]

basically you dont want % damage on attack

[brisk trail]

yes

[polar quail]

Yeah I wouldn’t take the attack

[ocean arch]

Time to die to Hades smh

[brisk trail]

f

[raw herald]

Take Zeus for sea storm

[twin thistle]

tbh it would help if you included your own thought process in addition to just posting boon offers and asking whats the best option

[high island]

If you get Spread Fire first hammer, you want a % Attack. If you don't get Spread Fire first hammer, you want Lightning Strike or Drunken Strike.

[hushed lotus]

Hey all, quick question -- how many chambers might be in a tunnel? I'm trying to figure out if my items from the well might expire in one more trip. The one I want to keep has 6 chambers left

[high island]

Well, you don't necessarily need to share your own ideas, but it's good to make a decision for yourself before you ask and then see how your own idea compares. That's better for learning than just being told what to pick. And ask questions if you're not sure why we recommend one thing over another.

[high island]

4-5 per tunnel.

[hushed lotus]

Thought so, didn't wanna risk the extra cast 🙃 thanks!

[high island]

4th or 5th can be the fountain chamber but not in the first tunnel you enter.

Doing more tunnels is great for upgrading keepsakes, but otherwise don't bother.

[hushed lotus]

I was just hoping for another well

No such luck

[twin thistle]

there wont be one

[hushed lotus]

Oh?

[twin thistle]

wait nvm thought you mean fountain

eitherway isnt worth it

[hushed lotus]

For a cast build it seems worth it, dunno

[brisk trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935715646770147370/935725412414263376/unknown.png

Which one shall I choose?

[high island]

Extra tunnels almost always have negative value tbh. The rewards you can get will barely make a difference at all, and odds are you're just losing HP unnecessarily for irrelevant rewards.

Cast or Vengeance.

[brisk trail]

I dont use my cast

so vengeance

ig

ty

[twin thistle]

well you should use it

[brisk trail]

k

I will try to use it more

[polar quail]

Cast is good

I didn’t use it when I was starting out but I use it now

[hushed lotus]

Cast is v good but Electric Shot has always made me regret my choice

[high island]

Cast and immediately Dash is a good way to engage any new enemy waves.

Just some free damage.

[polar quail]

You can use vengeance I think there’s a better special option

I only used artemis’ special with the rail, aside from that I’m not sure what the other good options are generally agreed to be.

[brisk trail]

carons shop or heart?

[chrome wharf]

Is this midshop or end

[brisk trail]

wdym

[chrome wharf]

what's your room number

[twin thistle]

whats the chamber number

[brisk trail]

how do I check?

[twin thistle]

bring up boon list

upper right corner

[brisk trail]

12

[hushed lotus]

You get two shops per region. Always a second one offered in the last chamber

[chrome wharf]

Press the button that shows your boons

[twin thistle]

then the heart is free

[chrome wharf]

I'd take heart

[brisk trail]

kk

yea

first boss

meg

[hushed lotus]

If you're offered a shop for the last chamber, then the other choice is a free chamber

[brisk trail]

ok

[chrome wharf]

only if it's end shop

[twin thistle]

only the second in a region

[chrome wharf]

ye

[hushed lotus]

oop yeah

[twin thistle]

though aspho can skip midshop sometimes

[hushed lotus]

Hmmmmm