#h1-discussion

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mint ember
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6 casts with hera bow lmao

fiery crow
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Does anyone have a screenshot of what the lounge shortcut looks like?

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I'm afraid that if I buy it it'll save I won't be able to go back

fiery crow
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Cool thanks

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It looks kinda weird no?

gray apex
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I don’t like the chairs right in front of it

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Or stools or whatever

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I barely use it

fiery crow
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Yeah ok I think I won't take it thanks

high island
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It saves time.

crystal eagle
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I was so close to finishing my first 16 heat run but then my game crashed as I was fighting hades

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I thought it was gonna bring me back to where cerberus was when I reloaded but nope

twin thistle
crystal eagle
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I play on consoleron

twin thistle
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nvm then bouldy

crystal eagle
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the run was pretty bad so nvm

gray apex
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Time to go again

crystal eagle
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I think I'm gonna go for hera aphro cast build wish me luckshadesmile

twin thistle
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gl

mint ember
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what the hell is boop

fathom mango
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It

brisk trail
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hey guys i finished all the prophecies in hades and there's none new introduced i only did one of skellys prizes so is there anything im missing out on?

opal shell
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Idk if this is the right chat but I'm having trouble getting bounties from any of the bosses no matter how insane I make my heat. Do you only get them once more after you give them their upgrades? I only get darkness anymore but I need diamonds to reunite pat and achilles and free sisyphus. It's gonna be a pain if I can only get them by exchange through the wretched broker

brisk trail
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did you finish your current heat before moving on to a new one?

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otherwise its the same prizes

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and btw do heat in order

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like add a extra 1 each time

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otherwise your wasting one run of those prizes

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and btw by the time it hits 20 on one weapon there's no new bounties

opal shell
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I think I already messed that up then bc I got crazy with the heat and testing out what they'd do but yeah I finished most of the runs I went for

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I don't think I ever took it to 20 though

brisk trail
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did you finish that run?

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like did you beat hades

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because if you didn't then you didn't mess it up

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you can still go back

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if you did you messed it up for THAT weapon

opal shell
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Oh I think I only beat Hades twice with extra heat

brisk trail
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also you can always save up coins in your runs to get either diamonds or titan blood

opal shell
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I was considering that if I can't farm from the hydra then charon's got my back

brisk trail
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for the diamond its 1000 coins for the titan blood its 1200

opal shell
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That just won't be fun for me

brisk trail
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oh no for me i just go through coin doors and hope i get hermes boon side hustle

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it helps a lot

opal shell
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I'll try it that way it probably won't be as bad as I'm thinking 0: thank you

brisk trail
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your welcome :) you can always ask the community for anything you need

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(btw there's also a reddit page idk if its official but asking their also helps)

opal shell
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I was peeking at the reddit it's really useful. I looked there first before I messaged here. I've used it to see what people feel about different mechanics in the game

brisk trail
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yeah its really useful ya know

bright comet
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is blade rift able to strike from behind

versed mason
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it can hit shield guys but idk about backstab, I'd have to check

karmic pond
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Yeah they do

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Too bad it still doesn't lodge

void vigil
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hey, getting the charon fight doesnt require any sort of affinity with him, does it?

south sapphire
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are you allowed do speedrun a category u made urself

raw herald
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Yes Ofc, it might not be a leaderboard category but there’s nothing stopping you

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And if it gets popular/more people start running it, it could become a category in the future

south sapphire
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skelly%

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get a key asap and then we talk to skelly

shy jackal
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Anyone else have a favorite Greek myth that isn’t mentioned in the game? The first Greek story I heard in high school was the story of Arachne and it has always been my favorite!

echo radish
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im a big sucker for apollo and hyacinthus :) arachne is super cool as well yeah

shy jackal
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Hyacinthus was definitely a good story.

shy jackal
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I’m almost 100 runs in and still impressed just how much unique dialogue there still is

autumn ether
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True. Same

shy jackal
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They just keep putting out these beautiful games with such care.

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Supergiant is my 11 year old’s favorite developer; he’s been playing Bastion since he was a wee lad.

chrome wharf
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not really a myth, but I wish Hemera (day incarnate, Nyx's daughter) could show up for a bit

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because Nyx has a line about like, she didn't raise all her children well, and some of them aren't on good terms with her, to which Zag assures "no you're great"

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And seeing someone who can't stand to be in the same room as Nyx to the point of giving rise to the whole day/night cycle would've been nice for Zag to realize no, Nyx really isn't being modest that she's not a perfect mother

chrome wharf
echo radish
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ooo yeah that would be cool :O

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charon fight? monkaw

chrome wharf
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Haelian fought him in his first FFTC video

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charon fight.

echo radish
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oh dear

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<- hasnt beat the game yet

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in my defense i only just got it like a week ago

lone kernel
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yeah, this is the spoilers allowed channel

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it happens

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kind of a lot

chrome wharf
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sans dies at the end

gray apex
polar quail
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Sooo did I mess up my bounties for taking higher heat

echo radish
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is okay i dont mind spoilers LOL

echo radish
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this is the worst

chrome wharf
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no

gray apex
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You can't mess up your bounties

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You just get rewards for whatever heat you were supposed to do

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If you do 6 Heat and your gauge fills at 4 you just get the rewards for 4

polar quail
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I thought so, someone said the bounties would mess up so I just wanted to be sure

brisk trail
echo radish
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aint no way

brisk trail
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What's everyone's opinion about casting? It's interesting to see people use it or not but I'm interested in knowing what are everyone's best cast and worst cast

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Imo it's Demeter being the worst and Aphrodite being the best

chrome wharf
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  1. All
  2. Casts
  3. Bring
  4. Their
  5. Unique
  6. Value
  7. Artemis cast without Hunter's Mark
  8. Slicing Flare
covert zenith
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I completely disagree with you

brisk trail
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But Demeter's cast on the Hera bow is the worst and hilarious

covert zenith
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Why would you have it on Hera

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I'm thinking of non-cast weapons

brisk trail
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LMAO

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@covert zenith basically, forgot I was running a Hera then I got a Demeter cast

covert zenith
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I personally like Demeter cast, but it needs other boons' help to be great

strong ridge
signal aspen
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The best cast for non cast weapons is probably phalanx shot

brisk trail
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Some people hate phalanx shot

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I personally love it bc it's big splash damage on Achilles aspect

signal aspen
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Why

strong ridge
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i avoid phalanx if i’m running zeus atk

signal aspen
brisk trail
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Phalanx bouncing around tho @strong ridge

strong ridge
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athena duos str8 cheekers

brisk trail
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PHAT DAMAGE THO

strong ridge
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don’t care want smair

brisk trail
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You can get smouldering air and the bouncing phalanx thanthink

strong ridge
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or i can just get bouncing phalanx and never see smair

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better to just not have it possibly appear

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but

brisk trail
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Fair fair

strong ridge
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phalanx is strong

signal aspen
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2 duos is not that hard to get tbh

brisk trail
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^

strong ridge
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ap and ri would like to make an appearance

brisk trail
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I had three duos once

signal aspen
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You use ap and ri thanthink

strong ridge
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big heat u have to

brisk trail
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All between Zeus, Artemis and Poseidon lmao

signal aspen
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You talking about high heat ?

gray apex
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how big

strong ridge
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you don’t usually have to take both but around 50+ you will see them
i consider 50 as like “big heat” it’s not largest ever but

gray apex
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Yea at 50 you definitely have to take one

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Both if you wanna spice it up bouldy

strong ridge
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55 is both fs

gray apex
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Just go EM4 style

strong ridge
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xd

raw herald
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Phalanx shot builds at high heat are practically non existent

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Both Poseidon sword and Achilles suck

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Rama is the best phalanx shot aspect

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At high heat

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At low heats it’s Arthur bouldy

brisk trail
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@raw herald is Achilles aspect bad at 32 heat?

signal aspen
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No

gray apex
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There are no bad ones for 32 really

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Some are just riskier to play

raw herald
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It’s not at the point where its unrealistically hard, but there are Ofc Better options

gray apex
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Mainly melee ones

strong ridge
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achilles probably thrives in 32 with blades build

raw herald
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Guan yu probably the best spear for 32

strong ridge
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real

raw herald
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Or zagreus

brisk trail
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Achilles is the only one I'm running at 32 bc I suck at the other weapons LMAO

gray apex
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Yea Guan yu comfy

brisk trail
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I try this stupid thing where I hope for flurry stab and divine strike so I can deflect all incoming damage LMAO

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Then the farthest I got was with Zeus and flurry

strong ridge
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dash

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scoot away

brisk trail
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Divine dash seems the way to go on high heat

strong ridge
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it’s not horrific

brisk trail
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I've tried

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So many times

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Bc I'm forcing myself to do Forced Overtime 2

raw herald
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Yeah flurry jab, Zeus attack and jolted should be enough damage

strong ridge
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if ur runnin flurry maybe double strike over jolted but idk jolted way reliable

signal aspen
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Dstrike on Zeus attack thanthink

strong ridge
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xd truth jolted better

brisk trail
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Jolted always

gray apex
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Double strike can't be offered bouldy

strong ridge
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y

raw herald
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It’s not a bolt

brisk trail
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What's the best curse: Jolted, Rupture or Decay

strong ridge
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fr

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crazy

raw herald
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All are great but jolt is better

strong ridge
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i now know why i never see that mf

raw herald
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Decay is nice at high heat

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Rupture is great as well tbh

gray apex
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Double needs Call Dash or Flourish

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Out of the cores

strong ridge
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so yea ignore me LMAO

brisk trail
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Decay is so good

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I like decay it's like a better hangover

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Too bad you have to have ALL ENEMIES FROZEN but for bosses that's easy to do

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I'm thinking of inflicting chill from now on at Forced overtime 2, to get everyone back to normal speed

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Why I didn't think of it earlier, I'll never know

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And hope for decay

strong ridge
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u will adjust 2 to fo2

raw herald
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Artemis attack is so much more damage tho

brisk trail
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@strong ridge I always run on FO2

strong ridge
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u made it sound mandatory

raw herald
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For 32 it’s not

strong ridge
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no

raw herald
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But it helps to have it on

strong ridge
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i mean inflicting chill

raw herald
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Oh

strong ridge
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but yea

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it’s nice to have slowdown on fo2

brisk trail
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I mean, it's not mandatory but I've been dying consistently a lot on FO2

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I just run FO2 so I can make it in TD3

raw herald
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Have you tried HL5 FO0

chrome wharf
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FO0 can make TD3 even with hell mode's JS1 CP1

brisk trail
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@raw herald it was either HL5 or EM6 on FO2, I CHOOSE HL5 zaglol

raw herald
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Show your pact

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Maybe in high heat channel

brisk trail
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Sure sure

polar quail
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Can you get curse of longing and merciful end at the same time

raw herald
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Yeah

high island
polar quail
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What’s a good aspect of achilles build

high island
proud pilot
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anywhere i can find links for other guides like this? they are very interesting

polar quail
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What unlocks Skellys prizes

shy jackal
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Had a fun aphrodite attack build with the gilgamesh fists last night

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and beat EM Theseus!

brisk trail
shy jackal
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spammed demeter call at the end of the fight with privileged status up 😂

feral belfry
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When you run mods for speed runs, 1. is it easy to set up the mods (never modded before) and besides two sack, what else do they adjust?

gray apex
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All of this is configurable, you can tweak it the way you want

strong ridge
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i like the minibosses

twin thistle
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its pretty easy to install. theres a guide somewhere in the modding or speedrunning server

strong ridge
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t fight them

gray apex
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You can just enable them again

feral belfry
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Thank you

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I don't REALLY want to mod but not 2 sacking at the very end of a run is so sad

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And I don't really want to punish myself with higher heat but still want to play hades lol

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speed running sounds like a good itch

brisk trail
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im so close to platnuming hades

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i just need to max rank each keepsake

polar quail
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With 14:52 on the clock should I go through the tunnels to see if I can find a dd well

high island
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You're more likely to just lose more HP.

polar quail
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Ok

brisk trail
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how low health are you

polar quail
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I’m at full health

high island
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Just fight dad.

polar quail
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Ok

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Bruh I accidentally clicked the thing that swaps my hammers at the styx shop

chrome wharf
polar quail
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And it took away flurry jab

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Bruh

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😑

brisk trail
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oh no

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rip

twin thistle
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sometimes you can pause and quit after buying anvil

chrome wharf
brisk trail
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the anvil would be good if you get to choose which hammer upgrade

twin thistle
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well then itd be op

high island
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It's decent enough the way it is.

brisk trail
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imagine playing sword and you get cursed slash on the anvil

polar quail
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Lmfao thankfully not

lone kernel
chrome wharf
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acided

lone kernel
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so unbased i'm at burning man

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cause acid idk

chrome wharf
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finally
I opened the can of tuna I bought just to get free shipping on the hades switch cartridge

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zag voice: aah it's still fresh!

slim geyser
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whats a good build involving merciful end? as in, keepsakes, other gods that may help, what weapons are good, ect

gray apex
raw herald
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Any aspect that can dash attack very quickly, so fists sword and rail

twin thistle
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MEris dusa dusa dusa

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tbh dont care about other gods too much. often want to avoid them other than filling your pool with ME since you need a lot of parts going

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though hermes extra dashes and rush delivery great as always. after you get ME and everything you can like stick on arty cast for deadly reversal

raw herald
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Zeus and Artemis are good tho, for call and deadly reversal

gray apex
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poseidon for cod

twin thistle
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yeah zeus call is great since as long as you dont have athena cast or a revenge boon he doesnt clog up the duo pool

slim geyser
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cool cool thanks!

calm zenith
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A cod dash strike build would work lmao

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Depending on timing

polar quail
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The games feeling really easy I might try a 32 heat run soon

high island
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Just do it.

polar quail
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Alright

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What’s a good pact lineup

crude surge
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I like HL4 LC4 EM3 BP2 MM UC FO1 TD3

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32 is really flexible though

quaint bough
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I'm at heat lvl 2 I don't see how I can get good enough to get heat levels as high as 32

raw herald
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Practice and working your way up gradually

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And unlocking the full mirror

quaint bough
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Basically have the whole mirror unlocked except the last few charges of the fate thingies. Also have most weapons altho they are low levels. Do the weapon upgrades make that much of a difference

raw herald
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In some cases, yeah quite a lot

quaint bough
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I see ty

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I just wanna get to heat 5 so I can take some of those other gates that are heat locked

lone kernel
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You can do it

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If you want

brisk trail
brisk trail
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inb4 styx erubus

lone kernel
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Styx erebus is just em4

strong ridge
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does zag just like make bloodstone

polar quail
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@brisk trail I can’t use Battie on dad yet

sick mauve
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Oh god long time ago i didnt olay

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And i acrually played one game and ended the game like persefona g to tartar

limpid marten
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You know Hades kinda has a seven foot frame, rats on his back

brisk trail
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i heard that when he calls your name, it all fades to black

cedar olive
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So I'm using the bow with the aspect of Chiron and I got to pick between Cold Fusion or Smoldering Air...I've got Demeter's Call and Thunder Flourish

brisk trail
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do you have billowing strength

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what level/rarity is ur jolted

cedar olive
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Static Discharge at base rarity and level

raw herald
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Smoldering air then

cedar olive
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Got Double Strike, if that makes a difference

raw herald
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Probably would have been that anyway

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Nah double strike wouldn’t do much

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For jolted

brisk trail
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yea smair is one of the best boons in the game

strong ridge
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is the lvl 40 dash real

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or did you make it up

cedar olive
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Smair it is then

raw herald
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I edited it

brisk trail
strong ridge
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reality is often disappointing

raw herald
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😔

high island
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So it's pretty bad on Chiron, unfortunately.

signal aspen
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first sub 1 boon pickup with ri3 shield bouldy

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also nice boons

raw herald
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Kbm too

signal aspen
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yeah

humble hazel
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Any tips on not losing all you’re lives in the 3d boss fight?

twin thistle
humble hazel
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Ok

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Cool

brisk trail
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@humble hazel ur me

humble hazel
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Lol

brisk trail
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🤝

humble hazel
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I’m working on changing my avatar and it’s not working

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Ok there

mint ember
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meme beam with zeus on attack

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lol

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pray for splitting bolt

dusky frigate
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what controls are you guys using on m&KB? I switch cast and spec defaults for some weapons but looking for some other ideas too

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this setting isn't great especially for builds where you 1) cast and special, and 2) have to reload on gun

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but just generally interested in some more controls ideas

slim geyser
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mmm i feel like trying to beat hades the second time has been significantly harder

brisk trail
brisk trail
slim geyser
dusky frigate
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you probably just got really good boons/hammers that one time you beat him but haven't quite learned patterns yet

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focus on pattern learning

slim geyser
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yeah more or less
been trying to

lone kernel
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@brisk trail for me, speedrun keepsakes are usually god/god/hourglass or hades aid based on how good the well is and how much money i have/hades aid or acorn (for high confidence insurance)

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but im just learning and tbh i was half memeing then i realized i was done

brisk trail
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i was just curious, i havent attempted any speedruns yet and my fastest is 16 min bcz td3 forced me to be sub 20 bouldy

dull niche
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ye typically u force gods in first two biomes then take miscellaneous keepsakes in 3rd/4th (coin purse, hourglass, acorn, hades aid)

high island
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What keepsake do you equip to skip Elysium?

lone kernel
lone kernel
mint ember
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exclusive access in tartarus?

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yes

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also

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twinshot rama feels so stupid lmao

high island
rapid forum
brisk trail
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Both, both is good

feral belfry
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It's sooo slow

long gust
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so I'm looking at a prophecy, if you were to distribute darkness to an upgrade and then put darkness into the alternate version, do you get affected by both?

brisk trail
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no you have to choose

long gust
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how does dark reflections work if you can't be affected by all of them?

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oh wait I get it

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lol

crystal eagle
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How do I unlock the epilogue? Do I have to max out the hearts on every olympian

high island
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6 of them.

whole carbon
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havent played in awhile, has there been talk about a co-op hades or a mod for it?

brisk trail
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hey uh guys is there any use for diamonds I finished all the music ones and i finished freeing orpheus and achilles and idk what to use the rest of my 20 diamonds for i also finished giving each god and cthonic god abroshia and cerebus so all of em are max so idk what to use them for also once im done maxing out all my weapons whats the point of titan blood?

brisk trail
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you get help from than but other then that no

whole carbon
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ah, would be a great game to play with a friend

brisk trail
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it would be weird

whole carbon
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apparently there is a multiplayer mod

brisk trail
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you can't pick 2 boons so they're gonna have to allow that, second people may move off your screen/ you also need to know if two people can pick different weapons or not

last veldt
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Same for Titan Blood and Ambrosia. I wish the broker would occasionally do a "buy diamonds/ambrosia/blood for darkness" deal

brisk trail
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bruh i literally want a use for it

high island
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If you want to look for mods, the Hades Modding discord server is pinned in #self-promotion.

grand furnace
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Are there going to be any official updates after 1.0?

vapid narwhal
mint ember
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With Heroic aphro attack with like 9 poms lmao

signal aspen
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2:25 tart exit

devout terrace
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perfect hammer too lol

signal aspen
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didnt get free rooms

gray apex
fast willow
dusky frigate
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can you not dash atk with it or something? the damage seemed to be lower than I had before taking it because it charged so slow you could never get out perfect shots

dusky frigate
gray apex
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You can dash attack with it

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But yea getting powershots is not worth it

dusky frigate
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yeah idk it just felt so slow it was unreal

gray apex
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It’s hard to get used to

dusky frigate
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I'm not sure if Ih ad perfect shot that run

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I took explosive in elysium

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could be why the dmg was lower on explosive dash than perfect shot dash w/o explosive

gray apex
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Yea that hammer combo is something lol

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Explosive can be fun tho

dusky frigate
gray apex
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That's if you get the chance to actually powershot

dusky frigate
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mark on the adds = almost guaranteed hades crit w the twin shot since it rolls

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oh yeah dont forget the 30% hermes attack speed boon

gray apex
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Well you're supposedly dash striking so that doesnt help

dusky frigate
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oh it doesnt affect it?

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thought it made dash strikes charge faster

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felt like it at least

gray apex
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Nope

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Just standing attacks

dusky frigate
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really that's crazy

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I can't believe that was placebo - are you sure?

gray apex
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Yep

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Attack speed from Hermes only affects Standing shots on bows

signal aspen
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attack speed doesnt affect dash strikes

gray apex
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Dash strikes charge speed is not affected

signal aspen
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that goes for every weapon

dusky frigate
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I see, I was consistently getting them off on hades though. but only with overtime 1

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could even run acorn for the stance too

gray apex
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pog

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what a gamer

raw herald
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👀

dusky hearth
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Bro 3 minutes to get there 😭 I'm jealous

gray apex
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sad first hammer

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God's Pride
Epic attack
Common Flare
bouldy

devout terrace
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Rolldy

polar quail
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Got Eurydice on a hades personality quiz

lone kernel
polar quail
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No one got hades apparently

lone kernel
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Thanatos. Oof

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I don’t wanna be an edge lord

polar quail
twin thistle
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bouldy personality quizzes

gray apex
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ohno

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I got Persephone

lone kernel
chrome wharf
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I got
Error 502 bad gateway

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So probably meaning the Elysium Erebus door

thick cypress
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I got Patroclus

high island
thick cypress
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which was pretty accurate!!

high island
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Ah, the character quiz makes a reappearance.

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I got Lady Aphrodite when I did it, naturally. courte5AphroHeart courte5Beegsmile

versed moon
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best run so far

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175 health

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2 death defiance and lucky tooth

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about to enter elysium

high island
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Nice nice. What's the build?

versed moon
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where can i send screen shot

brisk trail
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Was easily expected though

hearty mural
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I cannot for the life of my find a sturgeon shadedisgruntled

polar quail
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I’ve only caught 2 fish

autumn ether
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I got Ares

high island
# versed moon where can i send screen shot

"I'm not able to directly upload in those other channels!"
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So just upload it to imgur or something and you can link it.

versed moon
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im not good at this stuff lol

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basically im using zeus shield and doons i have are lightning strike thunder flourish swift flourish unshakable mettle sea storm minotaur rush static discharge

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and a few other that dont rlly matter

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like dash damage and stuff

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just killed thesus sadly costed me a death defiance

polar quail
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Good luck with the rest

versed moon
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i can buy kiss of styx

polar quail
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Nice

versed moon
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replenish 1 death defiance

versed moon
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i dont know if i wanna know how far awar from escaping i am

polar quail
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Do you?

versed moon
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ok fine tell me lol

polar quail
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You got one area and a final boss after

versed moon
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less goo

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i know the final boss is hades

polar quail
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Yep

versed moon
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so my goal is to reach hades in this run

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i know im not defeating him first try

high island
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Take the Evergreen Acorn into the next region.

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If you have it.

versed moon
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whats that

polar quail
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A great suggestion

high island
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Keepsake.

high island
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Naturally.

polar quail
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Keepsake from Eurydice

versed moon
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i dont think i have it

high island
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If you don't have it and haven't used up your Lucky Tooth yet, take that.

polar quail
high island
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High priestess of the Temple of Aphrodite.

versed moon
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alright

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165 health 2 death defiance and lucky tooth

polar quail
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To get the acorn make sure you give nectar to Eurydice when she appears

versed moon
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i cant recall who that is

polar quail
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Singing woman

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In asphodel

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Appears when you go through the ! Door

chrome reef
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Came here to give my best worst thought

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Hades Battle Royale

versed moon
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btw i died last time cuz of some giant rats

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cuz of poison

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how do i avoid that

polar quail
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You might want to avoid that

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You can heal yourself from the poison

high island
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First of all, never stay in front of Gigantic Vermin because they'll bite you. Always to the side or behind them.

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Second, just kite them away from the poison if there's too much. You're in no rush.

versed moon
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tips taken

high island
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When they don't have armor and there's no massive poison puddle around them, you can just stunlock them.

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If you have Tidal Dash or Flood Shot, use that aggressively in the tunnels. Wall-slam damage scales with the biome, so in the Temple of Styx, wall-slams do a ton of damage.

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And as a general suggestion, take the miniboss tunnels first.

versed moon
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i do have tidale dash

high island
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Yeah, then you shouldn't have too much trouble there.

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I hope you put a lot of poms in that. If not, do that if you still get the opportunity.

versed moon
high island
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Yeah.

versed moon
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well i can take a miniboss pom rn

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btw does the game save only when entering a chamber

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what if i was about to die and i alt F4

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do i restart the chamber

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not saying that i would do it

polar quail
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You’d have to reset the run I think

high island
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Alt+F4 generally has the same effect as giving up, pretty sure.

high island
polar quail
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At certain points you can’t quit, if you try to you get sent back to skelly

high island
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If that ever happens, though, there are steps to recover a save in #h1-tech-fixes.

versed moon
polar quail
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Like after getting hit by a boss. So I think that would happen

high island
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What's in the shop?

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And how much money do you have?

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A screenshot would make this easier. dusa

versed moon
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also heart athena and ares

versed moon
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spent it all

high island
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Yeah, just take the double pom and then the double money.

deft python
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How do I unlock the hades heart?

versed moon
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wait am i going back to this place after finishing a path or something

high island
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Yeah.

high island
versed moon
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okey im setting off

high island
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Good luck!

deft python
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I already did that

brisk trail
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you give him nectar or ambrosia after im pretty sure

deft python
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I can’t

brisk trail
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then you just have to talk to him a couple of time at the house

deft python
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Damn

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Oh well

brisk trail
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just do a couple runs or die on purpose

polar quail
# deft python I can’t

Think it happens after a dialogue with him about being friendlier to zagreus and recognizing his good qualities

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Or thanking him for ||returnibg Persephone||

high island
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Just keep doing runs and talking to people, pretty much. That's the answer like 99% of the time.

brisk trail
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does smoldering air works with hades call?

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no right?

high island
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Nope.

versed moon
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just slayed some tank little rat

high island
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Tiny Vermin.

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Nice nice.

versed moon
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so i upgrade tidal dash

high island
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Yeah.

versed moon
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i lost 1 death defiance

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and my health is 38

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do i go gold now

brisk trail
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go for it

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you be fine

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propably

high island
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The miniboss tunnels are usually a little safer, so just for that alone I would take that.

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Buy a Centaur Heart before the tunnel if there is one and you can afford it.

versed moon
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do i have to finish all 5 tunnels ?

high island
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Not necessarily.

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You need to find something for Cerberus. It'll never be in the first tunnel you enter, after that it's random.

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54% chance it's in the second tunnel you enter. So it's weighted towards showing up early, at least.

versed moon
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oh okey

versed moon
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i can only afford zeus boon

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i have 206

high island
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Might as well buy that.

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You don't wanna lose another DD before the final boss, ideally, so anything that helps you get through the tunnels more safely is good.

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Keeping the 206 in case you run into a Well that has a Kiss of Styx is also an option.

versed moon
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sry i already entered

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and already lost dd

high island
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But I think that's more of a gamble than just buying the boon and hopefully getting something good that'll help you get through the tunnels more easily. Getting more Lord Zeus boons on your Lord Zeus boons is always great.

versed moon
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shame

high island
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Well, lesson learned. dusa

versed moon
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ofc

polar quail
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Zeus has some of my favorite boons

versed moon
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i have 443 now

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there is a pom

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and two zeus boons

high island
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Buy the boons.

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Double Strike, High Voltage, or Storm Lightning from the first one if possible. That'll unlock his legendary.

versed moon
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there is storm lightning

high island
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Yeah, grab that.

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Then you'll have a shot at his legendary from the next boon.

versed moon
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damn

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how does that work

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is legendary always after storm lightning

polar quail
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Storm lightning is one of the prerequisites for Zeus legendary boon

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So you might see it or you might not

twin thistle
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base 12% chance for each boon slot to roll a legendary/duo unless taken by a priority core or status

versed moon
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there is a lot of stuff i yet to learn in this game

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the question now is ares athena or heart tunnel

polar quail
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Athena has a chance to give you a defiance back

versed moon
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wait i already have what cerberus needs

high island
versed moon
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im so dumb

high island
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Oh, then just go for that.

polar quail
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Oh

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Head out the door

high island
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You need a core boon from her that's not her Call in order to unlock her DDs.

versed moon
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cerberus vanquished not really lol

high island
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It's bribery.

versed moon
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omg its hades

high island
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Good luck!

versed moon
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im gonna get my asss wooped in 60 seconds

high island
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Might not take that long.

versed moon
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im 2 hp and hes 1/4

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less

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i was terrified i forgot my shield deflect attacks

twin thistle
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||which health bar|| bouldy

versed moon
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ur kidding

brisk trail
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yea he is lol

polar quail
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Nope

versed moon
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i mean that makes sense

brisk trail
twin thistle
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jk bouldy

high island
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Well, the first thing to focus on is to just get some information on what kind of attacks he has and how he telegraphs his attacks. You're not really expected to win anyway.

brisk trail
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hades would prob be rly hard with 2 health bars bouldy

twin thistle
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imagine if he could have three bouldy

versed moon
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tho idk how much info i can get with 2 hp

polar quail
twin thistle
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well you can block in a corner

versed moon
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im finishing my job now

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c u back at the house

brisk trail
high island
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You're getting information just by paying attention and not wacking at him mindlessly, pretty much.

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Your shield can block the skulls he shoots at you, that'll actually make them disappear.

devout terrace
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its like when they say the name of the movie in the movie

high island
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That's something that's very strong about shield.

polar quail
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Killing the skulls prevents the green shockwaves

polar quail
high island
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Yes.

versed moon
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I didn't even die by his hand 💀

twin thistle
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bullrushing into skulls also works

versed moon
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What a shame

twin thistle
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just uh dont let dad breathe on you while shooting his skull they might go right through your block bouldy

high island
crude surge
versed moon
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actually i died on purpose to see the dialogues when i reach hades but not kill him

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well i think thats it for today

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ill beat hades tomorrow

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i have 2 ambrosia and idk what theyre used for

brisk trail
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u have to max nectar a relationship then do their favor, then u can give ambro to actually max it

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it also upgrades summons

versed moon
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and who should i max

brisk trail
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try to max the relationship of either meg or sisyphus

versed moon
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i gave a lot of nectar to skelly

brisk trail
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they give the best summons

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skelly summons is bad

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meg is the best but sisys is decent

high island
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I'd suggest asking for more help when doing your builds because that'll probably help you the most right now. And it's much easier to get stronger builds with some advice than it is to just play better just from getting advice.

deft python
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LMAO

versed moon
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when u say builds u mean mirror keep sakes and boons ?

brisk trail
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yea

deft python
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||ZAG ESCAPED AND WHEN HE FELL INTO THE RIVER HE WENT ✌️||

high island
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Not just boons. Also when to go for poms and HP, things like that.

versed moon
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is there a good youtube guide you would suggest

high island
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Not a video, though.

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But a difference between following a guide and asking for advice is that a guide won't be able to tell you what to go for between 2-3 options in more specific situations.

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While other players can actually explain the strategy behind the decisions like why going for a Centaur Heart is better than going for a boon or a pom in this particular situation... things like that.

versed moon
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So you'd suggest asking for help every time i have to choose ?

high island
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Yeah, that can be good. Like maybe try to come up with a decision yourself and then ask for suggestions and see how your idea compares to that.

versed moon
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I'll try doing that thank you for your time

chrome wharf
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you can also record a whole run and ask if anyone is free to watch and give pointers

polar quail
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Ok, to practice for 32 heat I’ll go to 14heat,16 heat, 18, 20, 22, 24, 26, 28, 30, and try to do sub-20 minutes

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Should I try practicing with the same weapon or different weapons?

high island
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Just getting consistent sub 20s would probably do it. After that, you're best off practicing at 32 Heat for 32 Heat tbh.

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Like, take a speedrun pact and then work on your times and when you're somewhat consistent, do 32 Heat. That would be the fastest route to that probably.

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With whatever your best aspect is.

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Speedrun pact being EM2 FO2.

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And you can throw in TD3 just to get more comfortable with having that on.

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But if your aspect isn't level 5 yet, you can just finish up your bounties real quick to upgrade it.

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Shouldn't be too difficult.

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Like, bounties with that aspect.

polar quail
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With more blood I can probably max out eris rail as well

feral belfry
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can someone link me to the modding discord por favor?

high island
feral belfry
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ty

high island
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And then for 32 Heat, you'd take off FO2 anyway if you want an easy pact.

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But FO2 practice will help a lot.

brisk trail
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wheres the speedrun guide

raw herald
brisk trail
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is there a text one

raw herald
tranquil eagle
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do you guys know how to get the damage summary data after a run?

signal aspen
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the what

raw herald
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If you’re talking about the graph that appears at the bottom left

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With the percentages

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That’s a mod

tranquil eagle
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OHHH

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can you show me how to get it?

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i meant this one btw

raw herald
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Yeah that’s it

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Should be available to download on nexus mods

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I think it’s called “Ellos DPS counter mod” or something like that

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“Ello’s DPS meter”

hearty mural
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What does pierce mean?

signal aspen
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Pierce is a commonly used description for the maximum number of bloons that can be affected by an individual element of attack.

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according to bloons wiki

hearty mural
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I do love the Bloons game but sadly there are no monkeys with darts in hades

high island
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Pierce means goes through enemies. Also potentially unblockable.

raw herald
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Aspect of supermonkey

high island
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Like, Charged Shot on the shield is unblockable.

signal aspen
raw herald
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Aspect of psi one shots enemies and is good at high heat cause of increased levelling 👀

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So will be able to one shot bosses sooner

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OP

signal aspen
polar quail
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What heat is needed for prize 2?

high island
twin thistle
polar quail
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Are any of the hidden aspects good at low levels?

signal aspen
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beowulf is good

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and arthur

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~~and guan yu ~~

polar quail
spice hearth
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it's because 70% reduced HP and healing is brutal

polar quail
spice hearth
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50%

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which is still brutal but not as bad as 70%

polar quail
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So it reduces healing like lasting consequences?

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Or just health

signal aspen
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just health

polar quail
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That’ll be the last aspect I use then

signal aspen
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guan yu is pretty good

polar quail
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It sounds interesting to play with definitely

high island
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Most healing is based on your max HP, so it's an indirect effect on healing.

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But Guan Yu can easily keep your HP capped anyway.

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Tbh personally I'd just max out your best aspect, then use that to max out another aspect, etc.

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So you can pretty quickly only use Lv.5 aspects.

polar quail
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How much have you done in that time

signal aspen
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1100 runs on my main save

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498 wins

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and like 250k kills

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ive bought everything in the game except for the titles

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and completed every prophecy

polar quail
signal aspen
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idk probably all duos or legendaries

signal aspen
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shut up

high island
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No. dusa

polar quail
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We can’t all be super hardcore players like you

signal aspen
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yeah im a casual player

marble badge
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more hours doesnt directly correlate to being a better player anyway

void vigil
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when did you start playing, do you remember?

polar quail
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I’m a super casual . I didn’t even touch the game today

high island
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Don't think anyone was talking about who's better.

signal aspen
void vigil
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wow, thats a nice date lol

signal aspen
polar quail
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I’ve only started playing for almost a month

high island
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Dec 24 or 25, 2019 for me.

polar quail
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December 27th or 26th of last year

void vigil
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either way i dont think you have to play every day to not be casual, its fine to take breaks even if you speedrun or do high heat

high island
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Taking a break during a speedrun seems like a bad idea. dusa

polar quail
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Imagine leaving the game on and dying to tight deadline

high island
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Some IGT submissions from me on the leaderboard actually had some 10-15 min breaks lol.

signal aspen
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ive done that lmao

polar quail
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You can’t just eat lunch or go to the bathroom while you’re doing a speedrun

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Or can you?

high island
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You can.

devout peak
dull niche
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if ur doing in game time (IGT) speedruns, you can take as long of a break as you want if the timer's paused lmao

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well i guess even if the timers not paused, you'd just be losing time then bouldy

brisk trail
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i finally platniumed hades

brisk trail
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what was your last trophy

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mine was just reach the epilogue

crude surge
brisk trail
fast willow
brisk trail
brisk trail
brisk trail
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is epilogue the true ending? after 10 escapes?

gray apex
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You don't get the epilogue after 10

brisk trail
gray apex
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It depends but you need to improve your relationship with multiple gods, I remember getting mine around the 70 mark (15 was first win)

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It usually takes 30-40 attempts after your first win atleast I would say

brisk trail
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after first win

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but a lot of them i intentioanlly died in the lava zone(i forget all names in this game somwhow)

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cause i wanted to get meg's companion

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so i farmed her

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but still counts right?

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you dont need to beat meg to talk to her

brisk trail
brisk trail
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how desperate is he

high island
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Yeah, that definitely shouldn't go here. Tell a moderator and just block them.

brisk trail
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he is not in this server ye mb and beuh i had a DEJA VU YOU SAYING THIS

fast willow
brisk trail
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bruh thats off topic

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happens to much lately

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i deleted it

high island
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Well, I honestly have no idea why you post something when you already know it has nothing to do with the channel topic lol. It's a little confusing. dusa

brisk trail
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mb i posted on discussion

twin thistle
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when i grinded my second file it took like 50-60 total clears to get the epilogue. dialogue rng can get pretty annoying

high island
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Shaming people isn't really in the spirit of the server anyway. Remember the first rule is to be kind. dusa

fast willow
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just dont remember to gift the gods

brisk trail
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anyways mb warn me ;)

twin thistle
halcyon girder
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Okay does the chaos boons counts as actual boons

high island
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For what purpose?

halcyon girder
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Boonless runs

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The Hades is fixed now for the switch

high island
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For the unique dialogue and the run clear message, they don't count.

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Only purgeable boons count.

halcyon girder
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So this means the sunken treasure too?

high island
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Yeah, and Nourished Soul etc. Those are fine because you can't purge them.

halcyon girder
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How about Hermes boons?

high island
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Those count because they're purgeable.

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For the boonless category on the high heat leaderboard, the rules are different, though, if you're interested in that at all.

halcyon girder
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My plan is just keep 3 boons dash,attack and special three things that can keep me alive and have a fighting chance

gray apex
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Well that's not a boonless run anymore then lol

halcyon girder
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Yes but I purge em

high island
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Those all count, so you won't get the dialogue or anything.

halcyon girder
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Because I can only purge three

high island
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You can actually just use the Shattered Shackle on an aspect like Rama or Hestia.

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That should do it.

halcyon girder
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Welp time to reset

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So I can't just get three boons and then purge em it won't count

high island
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It will count if you purge them before the end.

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But you might get forced into more boons, so you're usually better off purging anything asap.

gray apex
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You could also get boon purger title instead

halcyon girder
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Oh yeah that dungeon thing

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I did saved my fates thing but

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Yeah it didn't work out it just kept giving me boons

gray apex
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Make sure you're not rerolling miniboss doors

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Because those will always be boons outside of Styx

brisk trail
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just pray styx doesnt give 5 boon tunnels bouldy

halcyon girder
brisk trail
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theres only 5

twin thistle
halcyon girder
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I probably miss counted

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That's why I putted in I think

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I tried using my change fates thing buuut

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Yeah it didn't work out

brisk trail
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yea for me neither but u reminded me that i should try again

halcyon girder
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Welp crap I accidentally bought Hermes boons

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The blessing are swift strike 20%
Auto reload and hyper sprint

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Idk I can purge em or can't

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Ah Frick it

gray apex
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you can purge all hermes boons

halcyon girder
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Yeah I picked hyper sprint

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And I give up

high island
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I mean it's still okay if you just purge it later.

halcyon girder
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I'll try again tomorrow

brisk trail
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what is Hades Monthly Challenge

void vigil
brisk quiver
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Hey is the Skelly companion ever useful?

gray apex
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It’s weak compared to other ones

brisk trail
high island
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Not really. thanthink

brisk trail
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happens some times

high island
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Rib is nice early on because you can summon him and Shady vs Hades when you can't do that with the others yet.

brisk trail
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btw i have the keyhole how do i give him nectar?

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i need to win with max aspect of zag?

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on sword?

high island
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You need to kill Skelly with Lv.5 Zag Sword.

brisk trail
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already killed him

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he didnt die ;-;

high island
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Then just go through some dialogue after that.

brisk trail
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besides only those where he says one thing

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like not important

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so how then?

high island
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You gotta gift him Ambrosia anyway, not Nectar.

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Just gotta do more runs anyway and keep talking to him if you've already killed him at his request.

brisk trail
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i cant give him

brisk trail
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still cant give him

high island
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That's like... literally the answer 99% of the time when somebody asks that.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

brisk trail
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still cant get dialogue

high island
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There's no other requirement.

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Maybe you didn't save after doing that, so just kill him again. Won't hurt to try.

brisk trail
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i said sheet

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...

gray apex
fast willow
gray apex
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Atleast 1

fast willow
high island
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Well, he dies after the 4th or 7th.

brisk trail
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skelly companion best companion dusa

brisk trail
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he does

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nope

high island
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He's just a tank, pretty much.

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Great for Erebus and for dad summons.

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Also for Flamewheels and Chariots.

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Skelly was really good in high heat back in Early Access when you couldn't unlock the ability to use the other summons vs Hades yet.

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He's still not bad, just Meg kinda solves more common issues a lot better and against EM4 he dies too fast.

fast willow
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i thought he would die in 2 HL5 hits

high island
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Nope. Also there was a spot where Hades wouldn't really hit him. Don't know if that still works.

brisk trail
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hydra instantly deleted lol

brisk trail
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the best run i had today

crude surge
gray apex
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50 heat go

signal aspen
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beat my 50 heat pb

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get sub 12 50 heat

gray apex
signal aspen
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no

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might try 50 heat speed tho

red cypress
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i played too much hades on the switch and injured my finger hidethepainharold

brisk trail
devout terrace
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be a gamer

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do it on zag shield RI3 AP2

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CP0 JS0 squirtdevious

signal aspen
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no

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i might pull an ocaml and get sub 10 with em4 tho dusa

gray apex
brisk trail
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nvm off topic

gray apex
marble badge
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better do it fast before I finish building my wall

gray apex
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Are you actively building the wall tho

marble badge
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when my eris run is out of the queue it'll be 2-wide, and I have hestia improvement as the next project

gray apex
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And what's the goal

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As in

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How wide is the wall gonna be bouldy

marble badge
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i'll be happy with 3 but we'll see if I can put something together with beo

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pretty big jump in grind difficulty after hestia imo

gray apex
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yea beo is something

marble badge
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and I'm just not good with zeus so there's that

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tbh even the eris run on its own is plenty good just so that the top5 50-heat aspects are in fact the top5 you expect

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finally ahead of arthur

gray apex
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Zag bow maybe? 👀

marble badge
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we'll see lol

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it's a double hammer grind that is even worse than rama and without the ability to take dc2 to minimize js/cp

gray apex
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yea

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and without the payoff of clockets

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eveentually

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this year

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you can do it

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i will even hold your hand through it if you need me to

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unmodded gaming

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The hardest thing is going to be not timing out