And about ban is mainly "dont pirate" lol
#h1-discussion
mint coral
reef zodiac
Oh alright
mint coral
Also cant select mods settings on switch for different hammers lol
Cant select without a mouse
fathom elbow
How do I stop Zeus and hangover from being trash when I reach the temple of styx
I always get 1-3 pomegranates but they still suck against hades
fathom elbow
Wow spear destroys tisiphone
calm zenith
At least you dont need duos to get good damage from that
Yeah
Hangover could work maybe with kiting. I feel like the stacks wouldnt kill anything though.
Youd need rush delivery. Too much work.
fathom elbow
Well hangover is not very good on Zeus shield
I mean Zeus boon and hangover boon
seperately
calm zenith
Hangover boon on attack?
fathom elbow
Yea
reef zodiac
Zeus and Dionysus have no synergy at all outside of scintillating feast
fathom elbow
2 seperate runs, one I try Zeus and one I try hangover and by the time I get to the green area it becomes weak
reef zodiac
So doing a Zeus + Hangover build does not work
reef zodiac
Ohh
fathom elbow
They mean either or
Yes sorry about that
fathom elbow
Oh
calm zenith
Double strike + jolted on Zeus yeah
reef zodiac
Maybe even go for splitting
high island
Zeus and Dionysus have no synergy at all outside of scintillating feast
So they have synergy.
calm zenith
Splitting is good. Peer pressure is very bad. Bad influence can be very good.
I love bad influence on Rama
reef zodiac
Bad influence is a good boon, yeah
calm zenith
The slow down is eh
fathom elbow
Are these duo boons or normal?
high island
If you're using Hangover, you should take Trippy Shot. So that works out fine.
calm zenith
Normal besides Splitting
fathom elbow
Thx
fathom elbow
Artemis seems to work with nearly every build I see lol
calm zenith
It's like a single target mark
I like it for Hades himself because mark falls off a bit there
reef zodiac
Artemis seems to work with nearly every build I see lol
Pressure Point and Hunter’s Mark are always good boons
reef zodiac
Deadly strike is always good but not always the best option
Hunter dash is situationally excellent
And has synergy with deadly strike
fathom elbow
Thanks 😄
Now I gotta have a wiki pulled up to learn these names
calm zenith
Yeah
mint coral
+5% crit per hangover stack iirc
1.2% x stack
reef zodiac
1.2% x stack
It’s 1.5%
calm zenith
For dash strike builds, because spear has an excellent dash strike hammer
Get that and it shreds
calm zenith
Oh splitting bolt
reef zodiac
CoN or Low Tolerance are better to prioritize for Hangover builds
calm zenith
Yeah
reef zodiac
But honestly
calm zenith
I only do splitting on Rama really just because the two base gods are already great
And I'll just get it usually
reef zodiac
The best thing you can possibly get is rush delivery
reef zodiac
Yeah
RD is so good for hangover that it’s potentially even worth taking plume to asphodel if you don’t have Hermes yet
fathom elbow
Is flurry jab good?
calm zenith
It alone makes spear attack good
Spear attack normally isnt very good
Dash strike is good
reef zodiac
But remember that you do way more damage with FJ if you constantly dash strike
calm zenith
Just dont pair it with Serrated Point
reef zodiac
Yeah
calm zenith
You choose one or the other. Flurry is easier to use.
fathom elbow
What's a good attack boon for gun other than Zeus?
reef zodiac
Hangover on Eris
calm zenith
Hangover can work on like Eris really well
reef zodiac
Artemis on Zag rail with Spread Fire
Aphrodite on Hestia
Zeus is the only good option for Luci tbh
calm zenith
Artemis on Hestia can work too
reef zodiac
Yeah
calm zenith
Nah Luci has lots of acceptable options
reef zodiac
I prefer Aphrodite for breakpoints though
reef zodiac
Well they’re all much worse than Zeus
calm zenith
I'd obviously rather get pp and mark and like support fire
fathom elbow
Gonna take cluster bomb and try to get rocket bomb later
calm zenith
Support fire wouldnt work actually. Idk. A dash?
reef zodiac
Gonna take cluster bomb and try to get rocket bomb later
What aspect?
calm zenith
Something to proc mark fast enough to be worth it on Hestia
calm zenith
Clockets is good on any aspect
fathom elbow
Sorry
reef zodiac
Clockets is good on any aspect
I know
calm zenith
Probably just base zag. Artemis on special?
fathom elbow
I have eris
high island
Hestia doesn't need crits to one-shot enemies.
calm zenith
True
Crits are just nice
Aphro is ultra consistent and good all around
Exceptional even
reef zodiac
If I knew I was gonna get a huge dash strike or attack boon from Chaos, then Artemis would beat out Aphro though
fathom elbow
Ok I got deadly flourish or deadly strike
Using eris rail (rocket bomb)
Which is better?
reef zodiac
Flourish
fathom elbow
Chaos as in the space world thing?
calm zenith
Yeah
calm zenith
If you get a good special dmg boon from them you're golden
reef zodiac
Did you know that boonless clockets with Eris boost does 700 damage total
reef zodiac
I don’t like doom at all on rail
fathom elbow
Ok I don't take then
calm zenith
Yeah and the duo wont help you
Does he have any general dmg stuff
Urge to kill, the other one
Battle rage?
fathom elbow
It was either blade rift or the one where boosted damage after death defiance
both seemed trash
calm zenith
Blade rift dash?
fathom elbow
Yea
calm zenith
Yeah so it will add up
It wont win for you but I guess it speeds it up so you dont die
Paired with Athena boons for dd and it's pretty good
high island
If I knew I was gonna get a huge dash strike or attack boon from Chaos, then Art...
Not necessarily, no.
calm zenith
I like dying lament on some stuff a lot
fathom elbow
Other 2 are cast and dash
high island
That doesn't guarantee you hit the next damage breakpoints more reliably.
calm zenith
Eh breakpoints vary with weapons
With one shot stuff yeah I can see aphro just being better often
Especially with pp+mark potential
high island
I care more for Smair potential.
calm zenith
Its 3 gods but like Dionysus or Zeus special, Artemis dash + pp + mark, Aphro attack, even smair yeah
Very reliable damage output
Whenever I get smair I seem to just get a common call
Which is usually still good, and they pom well, but still
It's a little slower of a damage boost
fathom elbow
I think I'm gonna restart this run
I'm almost dead already
fathom elbow
Then I won't get the same hammer
fathom elbow
True but I just wanna beat 8 heat to see what it unlocks
tribal sleet
yiu get skelly stuff right
calm zenith
I wouldnt focus on special dmg until you get rockets
tribal sleet
at 8 heat
calm zenith
Just special at your feet near enemies to get the boost then start shooting
Dash strike a bit. It shoots 2 bullets.
Not the strongest but eh it works
tribal sleet
athena and demeters duo is rlly good when hr dying bcz when u have no death defiances left u automatically recover heart
calm zenith
I'm more concerned with efficiency of each bullet per reload because I hate getting stuck in auto reload
Wish I could disable it tbh
It's not great tbh
It doesnt heal much
I'd rather something like on deflect: chill
reef zodiac
Not necessarily, no.
It would for me. Maybe would be slightly less consistent for normal rooms but with Hunter dash I’m sure it would even out. And I’d have significantly better bosssing.
small thistle
This is sad, I have 20 attempts, I’m on god mode, and haven’t gotten past the bull in Elysium
modern garnet
That's not unusual, lots of people have different skill levels in this game, and that boss is a big roadblock for a lot of people
kindred silo
Practice makes perfect
zenith skiff
This is sad, I have 20 attempts, I’m on god mode, and haven’t gotten past the bu...
if it makes you feel any better, I was in the same boat as you at 20 runs (with god mode on), it’s frustrating but you do get better
i beelieve in you 
lament robin
versed mason
he does that sometimes, i think if you wait long enough in the courtyard he'll be back
silent siren
I thought with tight deadline even if you were in the middle of a boss at the end of a region the run would automatically end...?
mint coral
Nah
silent siren
how does it actually work? Does it just mean that if you aren't at the end of the region by the time the deadline comes around you die after that encounter?
mint coral
You start getting 5 dmg every second or so
brisk trail
buy
mint coral
You start getting 5 dmg every second or so
So if you clear the region before death you are safe again
silent siren
You start getting 5 dmg every second or so
huh, oh maybe that's why my death def's kept triggering. I didn't notice the auto health drop
I just thought I was terrible at dodging theseus lol
Normally I can make it past them with one death defiance
Is it more enjoyable to farm low heat among all weapons for the first few runs after unlocking the pact to get the necessary titan blood so you have more aspects to play with or just to play it normally trying to progress through the story?
reef zodiac
You start getting 5 dmg every second or so
Yeah it’s exactly 5 damage each second on the second
Fun fact: you can dash or bull rush (probably call too) to i-frame TD damage but only if you’re at 1hp with no DDs. This is 100% true btw, but it sounds weird ik
silent siren
Fun fact: you can dash or bull rush (probably call too) to i-frame TD damage but...
what run did you see this lol? Did the person manage to use this to finish a run?
versed mason
f
reef zodiac
And noticed it when I was watching the clip
lapis fiber
Hey guys I've been trying to unlock all the hidden aspects and I'm stuck in the bow and the gun. I've talked to Artemis more than 10 times and still NOTHING . Does anyone know what else I'm supposed to do
I've already invested more than 5 bloods and everything
mint ember
Fun fact: you can dash or bull rush (probably call too) to i-frame TD damage but...
What does TD stand for
reef zodiac
Tight Deadline
signal aspen
Tower defense
versed mason
Hey guys I've been trying to unlock all the hidden aspects and I'm stuck in the ...
probably rng, there's a lot of dialogue in this game
lapis fiber
That's unfortunate
reef zodiac
Imagine doing a 62+ heat Zeus shield run and fighting EM4 and you run out of time. And at 1hp you watch the clock and empty dash or bull rush exactly every second while also dodging Hades and also dealing damage to him.
I guess you wouldn’t need to have 1 dash even with RI3+ because you could have Greatest Reflex
zenith skiff
Hey guys I've been trying to unlock all the hidden aspects and I'm stuck in the ...
there’s a pinned message in #h1-story-discussion that’s really helpful
silent siren
Greater haste or quicker recovery? Demeter Dionysus build
silent siren
Quick favour
reef zodiac
What call
reef zodiac
Haste or Favor
faint sleet
Hey guys I've been trying to unlock all the hidden aspects and I'm stuck in the ...
you should talk to zeus , he give gun aspect
solar hatch
When the game says defeat extreme measures thesus and seek posideon is it in the same run?
signal aspen
Nah
solar hatch
Thanks
silent siren
Eurydice or double boon?
distant vessel
Anyone else hates thanatos room against armored greatshields?
mint ember
Feels rough but also no punishment for not winning
distant vessel
I just give up and go to a corner and wait for it to end.
brisk marsh
Ok I use to play a lot more but I’ve finally gotten back into the game and I have 2 questions about Zeuses shield
reef zodiac
Ask away
brisk marsh
I’ve been trying to get the boons in most runs to run the build of Athena dash (with expose if possible) special is Zeus (with jolted and cold fusion if possible) and Demeter on Attack. Is this a ok build? Also what hammers are the best on this build (or just Zeus shield in general)
reef zodiac
Zeus special on Zeus shield is great. Divine Dash is also good. Cold Fusion isn’t necessary really, but Jolted is amazing (doesn’t need cold fusion).
In terms of hammers:
Explosive Return > Charged Shot > Sudden Rush > Breaching Rush
brisk marsh
Oh ok then I’ll try to get those
reef zodiac
For Zeus shield, I start Zeus special and look for jolted, and potentially look into Aphrodite attack and get Zeus, Dionysus, Poseidon, or Athena call and get Smoldering Air. Divine Dash is also great for safety as always
brisk marsh
Yeah esspcialy on high heat runs
brisk marsh
Is there a spefic cast I should go for?
reef zodiac
But the most important thing is Thunder flourish and jolted, then probably either divine dash or heartbreak strike
Good luck! Lmk if you have questions
brisk marsh
Ok I will Ty
One last one is broken spear ok for this (it’s the one I use the most) or should I use a diff one
reef zodiac
I don’t like broken spearpoint
I’d do Zeus keepsake -> Aphrodite or Athena keepsake -> Acorn -> Acorn
brisk marsh
I only use it cause I’m a idoit and get stuck in hades beam sometimes
Ok then I’ll use Zeus
Ty!
forest quiver
Less go
Got to hades
Beat him
Was super happy
Because it was first try
*second phase started *
reef zodiac
forest quiver
My goal rn is to escape for the first time in under 20 hours
Got 26 escape attempts I think so far
silent siren
Dont worry its 100% optional
EM4?
forest quiver
Then imma get all achievements in 100 hours or less I hope
forest quiver
I need to get builds down
reef zodiac
Do you want suggestions for any specific aspects?
forest quiver
Do you want suggestions for any specific aspects?
yeah
reef zodiac
Which aspects do you like?
forest quiver
I mainly like ares’s aspects like impending doom and etc, but I’m enjoying getting poseidons dash waves
reef zodiac
No by aspects I mean like weapon aspects
Do you have those yet? You probably should right?
forest quiver
I’m using the one where you teleport to your spear when using special attack
reef zodiac
Yeah
forest quiver
Is that the Achilles one
reef zodiac
that’s Achilles
forest quiver
Hmm idk
reef zodiac
After you rush to your special, your next four attacks and casts will do extra damage depending on the level of the aspect
forest quiver
I think lvl 1 for sure
forest quiver
I think 25% right?
reef zodiac
It’s 30% I bet
I think it’s 30%
Achilles is good for some cast builds because if you use raging Rush before you cast, your cast gets bonus damage up to +150% at max level
forest quiver
So is getting a ares boon good for achilles?
brisk marsh
Omg I already got 2 +special boons for chaos and my Athena Demeter and Zeus boons
forest quiver
Ok
reef zodiac
And get Artemis on the attack or special or call
forest quiver
Aight
calm zenith
Normally with boons, you aim for a duo using your special and attack boons
This is a cast duo. So basically anything can go on attack and special if you are generally using cast
forest quiver
Ok
minor fractal
You can't reset a weapon aspect can you?
reef zodiac
Artemis attack is a good option though
reef zodiac
You can't reset a weapon aspect can you?
Like take the titan blood out?
calm zenith
Or special even. For hunting blades.
minor fractal
Like take the titan blood out?
Yeh
forest quiver
I'd really try to get your cast off asap
Hmmm alright
reef zodiac
You can’t take the titan blood out of an aspect
forest quiver
I dash a lot too so I tend to choose dash boons a lot more than I would like
calm zenith
Casts also really like poms. So getting then early is very important.
Dash boons are basically all good
reef zodiac
Tidal Dash is great, I’m a fan of tidal on Achilles
calm zenith
Damage on your main defence
minor fractal
Sad, i hav hestia guns lvl 2 and never intend to manually reload would be a nice feature
reef zodiac
Casts also really like poms. So getting then early is very important.
Slicing Shot has pretty bad pom scaling iirc
forest quiver
Tidal Dash is great, I’m a fan of tidal on Achilles
That’s what got me to Hades
reef zodiac
Yeah slicing is an exception tbh
And crystal beam
minor fractal
I thought hestia gave bonus damage to the first bullet of bevery clip no matter what that was my bad
calm zenith
Most cast boons have better pom scaling than usual and just need all the dmg you can get to make breakpoints
forest quiver
okok
reef zodiac
I thought hestia gave bonus damage to the first bullet of bevery clip no matter ...
Nah, you have to manually reload
reef zodiac
It’s best to use Hestia like a sniper
calm zenith
Yeah. take advantage of its huge range.
forest quiver
I also enjoyed using Daedalus boon too that replaces your spinning attack with a flurry of attacks instead
reef zodiac
Just reload, special, shoot, reload, shoot, reload, special, shoot, etc
minor fractal
Whats the max level for an aspect?
calm zenith
Flurry is good yeah
minor fractal
Yes best spear
reef zodiac
Flurry Jab is so good
calm zenith
I think I prefer serrated but idk which is actually better
forest quiver
I got lucky with striking jab I think is the name that just increases the range of the attack
minor fractal
Cerated is range isnt it?
forest quiver
I liked that too
reef zodiac
I think I prefer serrated but idk which is actually better
Really?
calm zenith
Serrated decreases your dash strike length but gives you 3 of those massive spear dash strikes
minor fractal
If it is the range i dislike it, spear has tons of range already
calm zenith
Yeah. Spear has a great dash strike and the best dash strike hammer.
reef zodiac
Flurry feels definitely better to me
minor fractal
Ohhh i love the damage from that but it makes me hunt hermes for extra dashes
Serrated damage is insane
calm zenith
Fair. It's definitely harder to use
forest quiver
It def felt like it delt a lot more dps to me
calm zenith
But I find it very fun and effective
reef zodiac
Flurry Jab is absurdly good dps
calm zenith
True
reef zodiac
It’s used for speedruns
calm zenith
Ig flurry for different boons
reef zodiac
With Artemis or Zeus + Jolted
calm zenith
Serrated can do stuff like athena attack
reef zodiac
It can?
calm zenith
Get all 3 hits to crit
forest quiver
I’m begining to appreciate poseidon boons very good
calm zenith
Yeah it does surprisingly well and is safe
reef zodiac
Some of them are
calm zenith
That's 3 deflects, which is nice with dr
Disables some enemy attacks and projectiles
calm zenith
It's not spectacular but I've seen one dash strike do 1000 damage
Thats notable because it's such a big area
Decent range
If anything the -dash distance makes it easier to aim your dash strike
Though one time I was like breezing through a run with ruthless gy
reef zodiac
Serrated is good. But I don’t think it really compares to flurry
calm zenith
Forgot how to play for a second
Yeah I like it on Hades and Achilles too
1 shortened dash is very scary on Hades
With -50% hp
reef zodiac
That’s why you get smoldering Athena call and 5x divine dashes
I remember doing that for my GY 42
calm zenith
It's my luck. I never get bonus dashes with relentless.
minor fractal
Ive got zeus artemis on achilles spear is dionesis worth taking?i usually avoid his boons
versed mason
heroic greatest reflex 😳
silent siren
Only have a couple of aspects mostly or partially upgraded, any reccs after chaos, Chiron and Demeter? Rail seems interesting but I can never really get into it, I like fists but I get hit too often, bow is alright with the range etc and lock on with Chiron and chaos is fun with the multiple projectiles. Any rail aspect reccs? Isn’t the lucifer one basically hades golden beam or something?
versed mason
hestia rail is good, hera bow is good, as is rama, beo is good as well
silent siren
hestia rail is good, hera bow is good, as is rama, beo is good as well
Beo is which weapon’s secret? Also don’t you need guan yu for the rest of the hidden aspects?
mint ember
none of mine are fully upgraded yet
im kinda tryna upgrade all of them at the same rate
that way i dont just start maining one aspect
even tho nemesis is by far my favorite
versed mason
Beo is which weapon’s secret? Also don’t you need guan yu for the rest of the hi...
shield secret, and yes, i was assuming you had that as you brought up lucifer lol
mint ember
stacking crit on nemesis is too much fun
silent siren
The only one I have maxed is Chiron. I like using a few different ones but I like having one maxed one especially since Chiron is pretty powerful. Like Demeter fists but better I think since you can do it 3 times per lock on and 8 projectiles
silent siren
stacking crit on nemesis is too much fun
How much blood for nemesis
silent siren
shield secret, and yes, i was assuming you had that as you brought up lucifer lo...
Nah not yet I just like spoiling things for myself so I know what I want to go for in the game lol
mint ember
havent maxed it out yet so idk
silent siren
Nemesis Artemis build seems pretty interesting. What would you pair Artemis with?
versed mason
nem is like 2 or 3 to start off? i cant remember tho its also good, its on stygius
silent siren
Nem is one to unlock, I think it increases by one blood per level so I’d assume 15?
versed mason
as long as you have arty on attack its pretty good, hunters mark from there gets crit all the time it feels
silent siren
as long as you have arty on attack its pretty good, hunters mark from there gets...
Nice, it chunks pretty quickly
sand nymph
Granted it's day 1 experience but yeah
silent siren
Now I just have to figure if I want to go with nem or hera next lol
I don’t really use cast much so I think hera would actually help me with the buffs etc
What cast is good on a Hera build?
sand nymph
Cast is surprisingly useful
For me I sometimes forget it exists because the default one kinda stinks
silent siren
Yeah I find most of them are difficult because you have to aim it well like triply or it’s short range like the Aphrodite one
versed mason
aphro cast on hera is the usual
mint ember
good for numbskulls
versed mason
cause it negates the range problem with it
versed mason
the cast activates on the hit of the enemy
silent siren
What do you put on attack then?
sand nymph
My 2nd favorite being the hangover one
versed mason
honestly prob aphro too, it has the highest damage and scaling
silent siren
Okay
mint ember
hangover on auto aim special bow is epic
versed mason
hera youre going for big number go brr
sand nymph
Bow is crazy
Idk how I did this day 1 but I managed to get a bow to do 1k damage on enemies
silent siren
Lol
sand nymph
Explosion Boon, Damage and Crit boon from Artemis and just general boon upgrades
silent siren
I like ranged builds that chunk easily
Fists are okay for chunking but I often find I get hit too much so I think that’s why I default to ranged weapons like the chaos shield
sand nymph
A shield being a ranged weapon sounds Omega cursed
silent siren
Athena on the 4 main boons for chaos aspect shield is awesome
You easily deflect everything
rapid forum
A shield being a ranged weapon sounds Omega cursed
it's viable
silent siren
it's viable
^
rapid forum
get zeus special or ares, stand in one place, spam it
sand nymph
Yeah I tried the shield for a few minutes and saw what the special attack can do
silent siren
Beat hades for the first time with partially upgraded chaos aspect
sand nymph
So I can see it
sand nymph
Beat hades for the first time with partially upgraded chaos aspect
I got to his 2nd phase
2nd half of it specifically
Before I died a tragic death
silent siren
Anything that stacks or does damage for each hit is often nuts with chaos aspect, Chiron aspect or Demeter aspect
sand nymph
But for my 1st fight with him I'd say I did pretty good
I had like 275 HP and 3/3 Casts available too
And 1 death defiance
silent siren
2nd half of it specifically
Before I died a tragic death
Yeah it took me a couple of attempts before I finally beat him. Haven’t beaten him much since
sand nymph
Really
Really wished I could've restocked the other defiance I had to use
silent siren
Although I’ve been doing heat to farm titan blood.
silent siren
Really
Really wished I could've restocked the other defiance I had to use
Once you meet Patroclus you can recover death defiances
rapid forum
Really
Really wished I could've restocked the other defiance I had to use
athena says hello
silent siren
I think I've got 3 of those
They revive you with partial health after going to zero health
silent siren
Yeah they are often really important
sand nymph
Once you meet Patroclus you can recover death defiances
I've bought restocks for like 200 so
versed mason
I think I've got 3 of those
titan blood or death defiances?
brisk trail
is stubborn defiance better than death defiance??
sand nymph
Titan Blood
versed mason
titan blood does not revive you, its a thing for weapon upgrades later on
rapid forum
is stubborn defiance better than death defiance??
if you're struggling with bosses, death defiance is better
silent siren
is stubborn defiance better than death defiance??
At higher heat when you’re more likely to die multiple times in a region it is better
versed mason
is stubborn defiance better than death defiance??
DD is the usual choice for 90% of runs, stubborn defiance is if you are dying in normal rooms over boss rooms
silent siren
DD is the usual choice for 90% of runs, stubborn defiance is if you are dying in...
Which is usually the case with high heat runs I believe
versed mason
lasting consequences is the main use for SD
sand nymph
I don't really have any problem with dying in normal rooms
If I die I die
Just do it again
So DD for me
Plus I've found a thing where I can fully recover health in fountains and it's so good
reef zodiac
?
versed mason
yeah usually its cause you can stock up your DDs for the big boye himself, but dont get overconfident if you get into there with 3 DDs
sand nymph
I only had 1 lol
silent siren
How do you get access to green mirror again? I reset my game because I was originally playing on game pass and decided to get it on sale on steam and haven’t unlocked it yet even after beating hades again
sand nymph
I took a pause to mentally prepare and I just heard the distant music and thought "oh god"
Playing a game with a hard final boss feels so good 😭
minor fractal
How good is curse of drowning? I can take blood frenzy about to walk into hades so probably going to lose a life and have the extra damage
versed mason
How do you get access to green mirror again? I reset my game because I was origi...
go to the mirror and press the little arrow squares on the left side of the mirror
sand nymph
Oh it's called green mirror upgrades
Good to know
Haven't really invested in those
Focusing on Purple ones
versed mason
some green ones towards the end of the mirror are more helpful
silent siren
go to the mirror and press the little arrow squares on the left side of the mirr...
Yeah I know that I already had access to those but I’m asking how to get the arrows again since I don’t have them now? Do I just need to do enough runs?
mint ember
i think most common mirror set up is all purple except for final 4
silent siren
i think most common mirror set up is all purple except for final 4
? Don’t you usually want fated authority? I don’t recall what the other option is though
silent siren
Fated Persuasion is much better
What does that do again?
silent siren
Oh ok
versed mason
^ and also gods pride, whatever makes the epic more likely is more generalized than the duo/legendary one, but some builds have specific duos that are really good, like mirage on beo
sand nymph
Oh that does sound nice
kindred silo
Yes
versed mason
just got my goal of getting less than 13 minutes :)
reef zodiac
Double edge for any sword
tribal sleet
if you finish an achievement on the switch wjll it count as completed on steam the next time u log in or (
?
silk forge
after not touching hades for over a year, i finally went back and completed all of the hearts for every character
took me 95 hours 
charred tusk
Beat hades for the first time with partially upgraded chaos aspect
the boss or the game?
sleek galleon
shadebro
karmic trellis
sleek galleon
yes 
south sapphire
hades
silent siren
the boss or the game?
The boss, although to beat the game/finish the story do you even need to ramp up heat, or is it just for those that want the challenge or want to get all the titan blood necessary for the different aspects to be maxed?
runic parrot
heat is not necessary for story purposes
the two latter points are true
it's fun though
silent siren
I haven’t dived much into heat yet since I’m just doing low level heat at the moment but I feel once I start getting to 5+ heat it’ll be more of a fun challenge. I always tend to struggle with the game regardless of whether I have heat or not though which is a tad annoying. I probably will just need to practice, I was doing alright at learning the enemies but I stopped playing for about a month so it’ll take a while to relearn
I think my main issue with the current state of my game is it’s hard to get a decent variety(hence me wanting to unlock multiple aspects so I can rotate) in the game play. I know there’s a few different builds usually for each aspect but I’m still working on recollecting all the keepsakes so it’s easy enough to do in a normal run
gray apex
Yea practice helps a lot so you become more comfortable with everything to the point where just getting a clear isn’t a hard challenge anymore
If you wanna add more variety and have a decent idea of the fundamentals for each weapon you can just start coin purse and play whatever the gods give you
silent siren
Holy Hera bow with ares cast shreds… is the Hera bow upgrades just increasing the amount of time before the cast drops out of an enemy? Is there any real point to that if you are using said cast since it won’t get stuck in the enemy usually?
gray apex
Holy Hera bow with ares cast shreds… is the Hera bow upgrades just increasing th...
Not really no
But Ares Cast is one of the worse ones for Hera actually
silent siren
But Ares Cast is one of the worse ones for Hera actually
Oh
Well seems to be decent at the very least. Just got the legendary for ares so hoping if I can get the one that increases the size of the rift that’ll do good
silent siren
Try Crush Shot
Holy crap that’s good. Loading 3 at once instant kills pretty much everything and has a bit of a forward aoe so even if the arrow doesn’t reach the blast usually does lol
high island
Ideally, you only need 1-2 bloodstones to one-shot enemies.
high island
Trippy Flare and Phalanx Shot.
Crystal Beam has no inherent synergy with the aspect.
silent siren
Thanks!
high island
I wrote a simple guide for Crush Shot Hera if you're interested: #h1-discussion message
silent siren
Frost flourish or mistral dash? I only have crush shot so far and the third is crystal beam
silent siren
I wrote a simple guide for Crush Shot Hera if you're interested: https://discord...
Thanks!
high island
Reroll if you can to try and get Snow Burst.
silent siren
Reroll if you can to try and get Snow Burst.
Welp… I don’t have fated persuasion yet. Thats the next on my list once I have enough darkness
high island
Hmm. I guess I'd just take Frost Flourish there to leave my Dash open for something better.
silent siren
Next room is Demeter mini boss lol. Yeah I took frost flourish, doesn’t that usually open up the options if the main ones are taken?
high island
Not sure what you mean by "options" and "main ones".
silent siren
Not sure what you mean by "options" and "main ones".
The boon options, and main ones meaning attack special cast and dash
Mm no snow burst : ( will be looking for it though
You can force a god in another region with their keepsake after already having gotten one of their boons so long as you haven’t used their keepsake yet?
high island
Right.
What did she offer?
I'd purge her Frost Flourish after the Furies or whenever you see a Pool of Purging.
attack special cast and dash
We usually call them priority boons.
devout terrace
That's misleading
Since status effect boons also have priority
🤔
Just call them core boons
high island
It's not misleading. Tier 2 status curses have a 50% priority chance, but they're not priority boons.
Call is also a core boon but doesn't have priority.
silent siren
What did she offer?
She ended up offering something along the lines of frost strike, one of those better health take things and something else, took frost strike, would you suggest I purge it too?
high island
Nah, just keep Attack and Special then.
Reason I suggested purging her Special is that it opens up tier 2 boons that make it harder to get the boons you want. But if you have her Attack too now, might as well keep them since her Attack is alright.
Look for Snow Burst, Killing Freeze, and Ravenous Will.
silent siren
brisk trail
Hello
silent siren
What should I go for? I have no death defs left
brisk trail
If u have no defs left pic stubborn roots
silent siren
Ok
cursive nova
i finnished hades
silent siren
Finished as in the whole story or just completing a run for the first time?
high island
Yeah, Stubborn Roots might be able to carry your run there.
Swap to Fiery Presence for Hera by the way.
Easier one-shots.
silent siren
Nope… died to rats unfortunately and I don’t think I would’ve beaten hades in 4 minutes anyways
cursive nova
Finished as in the whole story or just completing a run for the first time?
||i killed hades (boss) 9 time and on 10 time come mother to home||
silent siren
||i killed hades (boss) 9 time and on 10 time come mother to home||
One thing to note is that I didn’t know ||that she came home with him on the 10th completed run…|| if you ping someone, spoiler tags do not hide said spoiler in the notification
Please keep that in mind for the future
cursive nova
how make ping ?
cursive nova
One thing to note is that I didn’t know ||that she came home with him on the 10t...
sorry
i dont see pinged you
realy sorry 😦
silent siren
Not that I really care because of how much I’ve already spoiled the story for myself and I’m hanging in this channel but figured you should know that
cursive nova
ha okay i learned 😄
silent siren
sorry
This is pinging by reply. You can see the @ ON which is the setting to ping the person when replying to them.
cursive nova
This is pinging by reply. You can see the @ ON which is the setting to ping the ...
i knowed
silent siren
You can just tap/click it to turn it off if you have to reply to someone and spoiler tag something
cursive nova
👍
gray apex
This channel is full of spoilers anyway
It’s in the description
#h1-for-new-players is more suitable if don’t want that
silent siren
This channel is full of spoilers anyway
I know that’s why I said I don’t really care. I just saw that spoilers don’t work if they are in a notification pinging the user and didn’t know that until today so I figured I’d mention it in case they didn’t know
high island
It's good to know, yeah.
silent siren
Just in case they are talking to someone else who doesn’t want spoilers
empty pelican
what gods are you using then?
empty pelican
I wouldn't go for divine dash first, using it too much feels almost like a crutch
brisk trail
it keeps me safe
empty pelican
if you have the upgrade to change keepsakes in-between biomes then I reccomend using a god keepsake for tartarus + Asphodel then changing to lucky tooth or acorn for Elysium+Styx
empty pelican
Artemis on bow is nice
get Artemis attack + artemis dash, if you see aphro go for her then try get heart rend
brisk trail
what is heart rend?
empty pelican
if you want then you could get Athenas dash but Artemis dash is great for bow
empty pelican
what is heart rend?
it's a duo boon with artemis and aphrodite, weak afflicted foes take more damage from critical hits
brisk trail
what gods improve dash-strike dmg?
empty pelican
artemis dash makes dash strike do more damage
you can get chaos boons to increase dash strike damage too
brisk trail
if I upgrade attack dmg, will it affect dash-strike?
devout terrace
yes
brisk trail
how can I tell if an enemy is exposed
gray apex
There is some particles above their health bar, they can be hard to see
brisk trail
I recommend aphro on attack, chose big dmg hammers like twin shot, triple shot or point blank shot and practice dash strikes
dash, attack, dash attack and so on
its a rythm
static harbor
how do I report stuff to poseidon? ||I've beaten Theseus and Asterius with extreme measures multiple times now and even though I talk to poseidon right after, nothing happens||
hearty mural
Have you caught enough fish? I think that’s what you are talking about
static harbor
yeah, I even have the fates quest where I need to catch a special one but I haven't been able to complete this one either
not sure if it's because I haven't encountered any rare one yet or if it's because I need to report to Poseidon right after
gray apex
Catching better fish is timing related
You have to catch a fish in under 0.3s or somewhere close to that
static harbor
oh wow
gray apex
For it to be a perfect catch
static harbor
I see thank you!
fallow kindle
What's a good strategy on consulting chaos for its boon? Should I do it every time? Sometimes? Never?
static harbor
still confused as to why I can't talk to Poseidon about it though
I'll try to beat Theseus while carrying his keepsakes to see if it changes anything!
gray apex
It doesn't
static harbor
ah
gray apex
You have to have the fish on you
I think
So if you get it dont hand it to the chef just carry it for the next run and force Poseidon
He should mention it
static harbor
okay thank you!!
hearty mural
What's a good strategy on consulting chaos for its boon? Should I do it every ti...
I do it if the room rewards are bad and I’m not near a boss. His boons are usually worth the short debuff
brisk trail
guys quick quetion
gray apex
Chaos can end runs so you'll have to judge that based on how comfortable you are with the weapon/ the heat etc
brisk trail
I just passed asphodel and I have the requiremetns for merciful ned
static harbor
@brisk trailtry getting the boons codex
brisk trail
should I take the athena boon to guarantee it or should I take the defense one
static harbor
as it's really helpful for duo boons and stuff
brisk trail
how can I get the boons codex?
static harbor
ahh nvm
gray apex
Depends on how good you are
brisk trail
I"m pretty bad
static harbor
I read your question wrong
I forgot how it's called but basically where you buy stuff for the house
brisk trail
I have the exploding spear for alternative
static harbor
next to Hades
gray apex
It also depends on other boons that you have and the weapon you're running, a Merciful End build isnt just Merciful End
brisk trail
oh
true
yeah, I'll take the defense one
i'll buy at hades house
I got 2 more ares boons but no merciful end
is this bad luck or duo boons are hard to get?
brisk trail
ok then I have very bad luck
hearty mural
It’s one of the rarest boons I think
Especially with how few prerequisite possibilities it has
brisk trail
but it's not fair
I got the prerequisites form tartarus
and then I stubmled upon lots of ares and athena boons
I ultimately swapped for aphrodite special
and deafeted hades for the 2nd time
devout terrace
It’s one of the rarest boons I think
No duo boons are specifically coded as rarer than others
Athena can just not be nice
I should know lol
gray apex
Yea, also if a Duo boon doesnt have as many prereqs doesnt mean it's rarer than others
It was just a nerf because it's a strong boon
devout terrace
ive tried getting the build in about 2000-2500 speedrun attempts
devout terrace
It was just a nerf because it's a strong boon
It was a general athena nerf iirc
Since divine dash also opened DR
brisk trail
if I have knock-back on my attacks, can I stun-lock armored enemies?
sonic mango
one thing i was wondering, will Hades ever receive content updates? Not sure if it has, since I'm quite late to the party
Haven't even reached the epilogue yet, but that was on my mind for a while since it gets a bit repetitive after a while (doesnt mean its bad! love the game still :))
gray apex
one thing i was wondering, will Hades ever receive content updates? Not sure if ...
Nah Hades is a finished game, it went through 1 year of Early Access and constant balance changes + new stuff before it launched, Devs have moved on to other projects as far as we know and all we get is some minor bug fixes and the like
versed mason
#hades-patch-notes the last message here
sonic mango
That is fair enough
It's fun when devs end up putting more stuff to enjoy in a game, but if they plan on focusing on making a new one entirely it's also something really fun to look out for
versed mason
tbf there's a ton in this game
fathom elbow
Olympus I accept this message
stone glacier
hello, is there a website or something where you can simulate a pact of punishment ?
lone kernel
hello, is there a website or something where you can simulate a pact of punishme...
Your game and screenshots
reef zodiac
Yea I have no clue where it is
Yeah I know one too but I also don’t know where it is
stone glacier
i asked because my switch was downstairs
obviously the game can simulate it
thank you mewmew
gray apex
pog
brisk trail
How do i get all of skullys rewards ?
mint coral
Beat game at 8/16/32 heat
brisk trail
How do u get more heat does it go up one at a time
Like after every escape does it go up with one
mint coral
Do you have the pact of punishment unlocked?
mint coral
Have you interacted with the skelly prices?
brisk trail
Yes i got the first prize
Do i need to escape 36 times to get the last one
Like in total
mint coral
You can skip to the required heat for each prize
brisk trail
How ?
mint coral
Just add enough pacts to equal the heat needed
The one by one heat is for the bounties (titan blood/diamonds/ambrosia)
mint ember
How does eris work with rocket bomb?
reef zodiac
You have to be inside the (quite large) blast
raw herald
Run up close to enemies, fire special in their face, get the buff
distant vessel
Does eris increase the damage of beams from demeter and blades from ares for the full duration?
raw herald
Yes
reef zodiac
Only when the boost is active
distant vessel
So you have the boost, you put down a beam, after the boost ends and the beams are still there do they lose the damage increase?
reef zodiac
Btw Eris boosted rocket bomb with fiery presence 1-shots everything in Tartarus
reef zodiac
So you have the boost, you put down a beam, after the boost ends and the beams a...
Yes
distant vessel
Oh thanks
reef zodiac
But if you get the boost back, they get the damage back
It’s the same way with Rush Delivery
rough chasm
hi
is this game worth buying. I have a tight budget and would need to save up but looks really fun
oak ibex
absolutely
signal aspen
yeah
oak ibex
And it's often on sale
rough chasm
alright how much does it cost at the moment
distant vessel
One of the best game I've played in years
rough chasm
I heard really good things about it (:
there's just so many games and not enough money in my wallet lmao
distant vessel
What platform are you using?
signal aspen
yeah
rough chasm
is it grindy
oak ibex
It's not really grindy imo. The story itself can take quite a while to complete: even then, there is almost always new dialogue you can unlock
rough chasm
just looks like so much fun
oak ibex
It is!
rough chasm
alr I'm hooked
oak ibex
I never played rougelikes before Hades, but god, I loved it
rough chasm
Well I'll tell you what I think about it once I get the money for it 😄
silk badger
I have about 6 hours docked in Hades, where should I be?
reef zodiac
Wherever you are now.
silk badger
Fair
full nexus
You're worrying about the fact you should have cleared already?
reef zodiac
Everyone progresses at their own pace
Doesn’t matter if it takes you a long time to get a clear
Took me a while too
tribal sleet
i dont remember how long it took me tbh
silk badger
You're worrying about the fact you should have cleared already?
Well how far I should be
Because I have the first level down to a science
reef zodiac
Down to a science? In 6 hours?
Idk if I’d say I have Tart down to a science in ~850 hours
reef zodiac
~~Since I keep managing to spend over 2:15 there in my speedruns somehow 
~~
full nexus
It's hard to have a fast Tartarus
silk badger
I'm not speedrunning, so there's that
reef zodiac
I know. But sub2:15 feels like something that shouldn’t be as rare as it is
silk badger
Fair
And I am playing causally so I guess that's why I guess it's "easier" for me y'know
signal aspen
I know. But sub2:15 feels like something that shouldn’t be as rare as it is <:bo...
you just bad
reef zodiac
True
silk badger
you just bad
you no grammar
reef zodiac
And I am playing causally so I guess that's why I guess it's "easier" for me y'k...
My point was more that nobody masters the game that quickly (or even at all) and we all have room for improvement. And also to make fun of my bad Tartaruses bit
devout terrace
I mean its not like I was any good at dead cells in the first 50 hours or so
Both games have really high skill celling and learning curves, hades is probably easier to pick up and understand
reef zodiac
I’ve never played Dead Cells
But I played Isaac and Gungeon and found both of them really boring
So I’m hesitant to try other roguelikes
full nexus
Gungeon is cool
raw herald
Hades is the only rogue like I’ve ever played
silk badger
I mean its not like I was any good at dead cells in the first 50 hours or so
I beat the hand of the king in my first 50
silk badger
But I played Isaac and Gungeon and found both of them really boring <:bouldy:523...
Gungeon was aight, and Isaac has too much luck
raw herald
2:15 Tartarus feels fairly consistent for me
But I do get what you mean
Sometimes I just get a string of 2:2xs and it’s really frustrating
reef zodiac
2:15 Tartarus feels fairly consistent for me
Yeah it’s a skill issue lol
I get sub2:15 around 40% of the time maybe
Which is not good
raw herald
I reset some runs before furies tho so I’ll never know my true %
reef zodiac
Fair
reef zodiac
I’m still streaking because I want a 100 streak for this file, so that’s definitely hurting my potential times a lot
gray apex
Do you keep those
I guess it depends on build and such
raw herald
I’d still keep a 2:15
Chances are unless I get barge, im playing 2:15 tarts through elysium
In case I get the skip
devout terrace
I did that for too long on my nem grind
raw herald
See the problem is
devout terrace
Couldn't get below 7:15 doing that
raw herald
You picked a bad weapon to grind
gray apex
devout terrace
(it went wrong more tho )
gray apex
Nemesis hard
devout terrace
That run has no right to exist homie
reef zodiac
In case I get *the skip*
True
devout terrace
The build was terrible
Lv3 epic doom with common RD, breaching slash hoarding slash
raw herald
Rip
raw herald
Oh man my heart was beating at the start of dad
devout terrace
But im also proud for getting it on a scuffed build
raw herald
I missed the joy of playing unmodded
devout terrace
Oh man my heart was beating at the start of dad
6:10-6:15 into dad is terrifying
raw herald
When I got sub 7 modded I was like “huh that’s neat”
devout terrace
Because you know its very possible you'II just have it stolen away
raw herald
6:10-6:15 into dad is terrifying
I was 6:21
reef zodiac
I missed the joy of playing unmodded
The what
gray apex
yo check #h1-tech-support
raw herald
When it all goes right I mean
gray apex
Another beo bug
reef zodiac
Yoo?
devout terrace
wtf
gray apex
lmfao
devout terrace
What in the goddamm
raw herald
I’ve stopped rolling for deadly strike if I don’t get it first time
But after mirage I like going divine strike at a chance of DR
Never got it in my pb tho
devout terrace
thats kinda based
beo cshot gets a lot of extra attack damage
so arti is really valuable
can get huge crits
gray apex
I roll once usually
If I dont get it I reset
Unless there is other stuff to make up for it
devout terrace
run shackle copium
signal aspen
so arti is really valuable
my pb has cshot deadly flourish
raw herald
Yeah ik it’s big damage but once I’ve got mirage I don’t really mind sacrificing deadly strike
And deadly reversal is like a huge deadly strike with global PP
reef zodiac
Damn it’s so fun to be able to 1-shot EM4 summons 
forest quiver
man wtf ffs
my friend just beat hades 11 escape attempts
just failed at my 27th one
again
first phase even
so bummed rn
chrome wharf
buyables be good
so more buyables = more stonks
As long as you don't get hit too much
and actually roll good buyables
*cough trove tracker
hearty mural
I like trove tracker but I assume you get more value out of the jerkeys
lone kernel
super based keepsake
forest quiver
any tips on boons for spear?
lone kernel
my friend just beat hades 11 escape attempts
Took me 45 it’s all gravy don’t quit
gray apex
Lol
gray apex
any tips on boons for spear?
Base spear?
Lots of hammer reliance with this one
I wrote something about it lemme find it
forest quiver
pray for flurry or exploding launcher tbh
ain't getting llucky with that rn
silk badger
I'VE MADE IT TO THE BONE HYDRA
gray apex
Well it’s still hammer reliant, Spear as a whole is hammer reliant, you can definitely play Achilles spear without Flurry Jab but it’s just sad
forest quiver
got the hammer and got vicious skewer
forest quiver
Well it’s still hammer reliant, Spear as a whole is hammer reliant, you can defi...
yea
im doing that rn
im just sad
i ain't gettting getting
im getting other boons everytime
gray apex
Yea it’s a grind of its own
Achilles is very versatile tho so you can make do with whatever gods you get for the most part
Also try Cast builds since those rely less on your hammer
tribal sleet
achilles spear is my favorite
j thjnk demeters cast w demeter and artemis duo boon js rlly good
calm zenith
You can play Achilles with Serrated Point too
I'd say it and Poseidon are very not hammer reliant
twin thistle
well cuz you can just use your cast
calm zenith
Yeah
reef zodiac
Achilles is very hammer reliant if you want to go fast
calm zenith
Still true. It's a point in their favor build wise.
reef zodiac
More so than probably any other speed weapon
feral belfry
is the best beo build going with dio cast if you can get extra chaos casts, or mirage shot because it's DPS is busted?
tribal sleet
what hammer stuff wld u recommend for achilles ?
signal aspen
is the best beo build going with dio cast if you can get extra chaos casts, or m...
Both
raw herald
what hammer stuff wld u recommend for achilles ?
Flurry jab
signal aspen
what hammer stuff wld u recommend for achilles ?
Flurry jab
tribal sleet
ok ty
raw herald
The best beowulf build is dio cast with extra casts and mirage shot
They are equally important
twin thistle
if you have mirage shot and only one cast your dps is gunna be pretty crap