#h1-discussion

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high island
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Meant to add "quite rare early on".

tacit nimbus
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Fishing seems pretty neat, but not particularly powerfull. At supreme luck, a titan blood. on average, likely some gems.

high island
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Well.

versed mason
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fishing is rad

high island
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You'll probably run out of use for Titan Blood before you run out of use for Gemstones.

tacit nimbus
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fair point.

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both can be traded into other types too

twin thistle
versed mason
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gems is nice real late game trying to get all the house of hades decorations

lone kernel
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I’ve got seven items to go on my switch file for the contractor but mods

versed mason
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nice

high island
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Can't wait for bots to develop sentience and stop spamming discords.

versed mason
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one day

lone kernel
versed mason
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id bet 👀

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as a pc player

lone kernel
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lol yea

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Finally got around to getting gaming working on pc lol

tacit nimbus
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After I gave everyone 1 nectar, I started indiscrinately handing it to everyone. Except Hades. Especially cerberus.

gray apex
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What a gamer

tacit nimbus
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no mechanic benefit for past 1, yes. still nice, yes.

versed mason
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wellllll

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👀

twin thistle
versed mason
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they'll find out in time 👀

lone kernel
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Spoiler allowed channel@

tacit nimbus
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neat!

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so prioritize them for nectar?

twin thistle
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yeah

versed mason
tacit nimbus
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I can never decide on titan blood spending. Aspects are obviously good, but still hard to decide which ones.

zenith skiff
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are there ever any benefits to going into the rooms with two of the gods’ symbols on them? like do they ever lead to a duo boon instead of a fight?

lone kernel
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Eris rail Achilles spear Zeus shield

tacit nimbus
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just fights

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2 boons as reward though

lone kernel
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if you want the easiest ones to learn

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and git gud

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but whatever weapon u like

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cause you’ll git gud the fastest by playing what’s comfortable

tacit nimbus
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I don't really want the legendary ones. Cool, yes. Worthwile, not in my opinion.

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Hades is definately a very aggressive game.

lone kernel
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Legendaries yes tho

zenith skiff
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okay good to know, I went in once and immediately knew I screwed up lol

lone kernel
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ever get second wave and splitting bolt in the same room

full nexus
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Having 2 boons in one room is very strong

lone kernel
full nexus
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but no duos yes

twin thistle
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splitting bolt is very powerful. or just getting more zeus boons in general

lone kernel
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Unless you were hunting for a specific Zeus

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*duo boon not Zeus

twin thistle
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fully loaded for a cast build is pretty big too

lone kernel
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fully loaded isn’t real

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myth

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fake boon

twin thistle
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this is true bouldy

lone kernel
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*it is real just mad hard to get

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for newer players

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I got it 8 times in 470 runs lol

twin thistle
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two prereqs and neither of them being core boons does make it a bit difficult

lone kernel
gray apex
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I’ve got it once so it must be real

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Y’all just get gud

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🦾bouldy

twin thistle
lone kernel
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you haven’t beaten icy flare beo in sub 7, you git gud

gray apex
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I wont do that anytime soon bouldy

lone kernel
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guess you’re like me then

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a noob who needs to hornetgitgud

gray apex
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It’s true

lone kernel
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Try Athena dash it’ll help you get hit less

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Ok I’m done

gray apex
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Lol

mint ember
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nah

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go for full cast dmg and one shot bosses

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what is there to dodge if the boss is dead

lone kernel
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win runs

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oceans bounty

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chaos boon

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for more darkness

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darker thirst

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but like deadass, 250 for beating dad base thats as good as it gets the 10 in rooms accomplishes nothing after early game

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i think its 550 for all bosses

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beyond that, there really isnt a quick way

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like go to this area and theres 500 healing items you can stockpile kinda situation

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doesnt exist

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More or less, yeah

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cant be a bounty that you already had

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550 per clear base tho

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so use that to like, gauge your progress

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ive seen the last dad drop be like

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1250 once lol

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with all three of thirst, poseidon's oceans bounty and an epic chaos that gives u more gems and darkness

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oh wait also before you start if you havent already, buy the contractor upgrade that gives you gems for killing bosses

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no that's base - 50/100/150/250 for each boss

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wait its 600 i cant count

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just makin sure 🙂

lament robin
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Hey I got a question I already asked in Hades for new players chat

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Should I ask it again here?

lone kernel
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@lament robin dark thirst means your weapon gets 20% more darkness and gems on that run only

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youll see it by a purple cloud around one of the weapons

lament robin
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Oh! It's the purple cloud thing

lone kernel
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it switches every run

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yeah

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so if you get a 10 darkness room you get 12 now

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dark thirst will still apply to gems he gets just via rooms

lament robin
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No, I don't, but I can get it

mint coral
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The gems bit is a work order

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Normally is only darkness

lone kernel
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if he doesnt know what dark thirst is, im assuming rookie, ten runs in or so

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welcome to the game of the year my dude

lament robin
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Oh no, ik what it is, I just didn't know it was called that

lone kernel
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yep, that's it

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aight word

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godspeed with your farming

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buy every light of ixion you see

gray apex
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It’s not worth it imo

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If you’re farming your main source of darkness and gemstones is gonna be bosses

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You can farm a ton by just beating runs fast

chrome wharf
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you have its other side maxed?

lone kernel
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Fated persuasion is so much better

chrome wharf
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unless OP means literally every single other purple/green ability

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ok good

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gods I remember that taking 10 years

mint coral
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Just reset your mirror

lone kernel
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word

tacit nimbus
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The gods are pretty whiny. I mean, their gods, they always get what they want. They sure don't take it well if your forced to pick a blessing.

wary mural
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what does addad to the attack sequence even mean
example: your dash strike does + 60% damage ;added to attack sequence

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sorry

raw herald
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Normally when you hold attack on fists, you do 5 short punches

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With rolling knuckle, the combo becomes 6 punches with the last one being the same as a dash strike

wary mural
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ok thx

chrome wharf
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lol 2 places where it's on topic is hardly everywhere pls

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Yes that's what people do sometimes

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No need to be a prick about it

wary mural
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i just go to here bc way more active chat so higher chance to be seen

versed mason
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most people check both chats pretty regularly

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most like

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people who would answer in the first place that it

wary mural
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hades fight 2 defiences almost full health merciful end run wish me luck

narrow hemlock
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hey guys be nice

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if you can't word yourself respectfully then maybe dont say it

wary mural
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second phase

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noooooo stupid lasers

celest shell
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I'm worried about going back to playing because I have a feeling I'll get addicted again

wary mural
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just do it or else you get addicted to an other game

rotund pawn
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just a quick question, is there any particular reason why sometimes you never encounter Asterius and you have to fight him at full hp?

chrome wharf
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RNG

rotund pawn
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oh aight so like when fighting the bone hydra it's rng for which moveset it gets?

wary mural
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yes

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but not the first time

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you can see it at the head if you didnt know

rotund pawn
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before you encounter it?

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I'm assuming it tells you by the statues in charons shop before you entire the fight?

wary mural
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no all heads look different different head different attack

rotund pawn
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yeah ik that I thought you meant that you could tell which hydra you're fighting before you entire the actual fight itself

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well anyways I'm fighting hades again

wary mural
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ok good luck

rotund pawn
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beat him

wary mural
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damn good job what kind o build

rotund pawn
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athena crit dmg hermes dash build

wary mural
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ok

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me nuking evrything with gun single bomb 800+ damage

rotund pawn
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damn, I gotta try that out. I've been loving shield of chaos and Aspect of Talos

remote slate
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don't remove the 2nd e from theseus

wary mural
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talos is fun i like zues shield better

rotund pawn
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sus

wary mural
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the sus

reef zodiac
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Zeus shield goated

rotund pawn
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I tried aspect of chaos and it's honestly meh

reef zodiac
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Yeah

rotund pawn
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Ima use exagryph since I never use it

reef zodiac
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15 base damage per special is just not enough

reef zodiac
rotund pawn
rapid forum
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have fun

rotund pawn
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YOO I got hammer first try lets go

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rocket bomb, seeking fire, delta chamber

reef zodiac
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Rocket Bomb is really good and fun

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Seeking is kinda boring and doesn’t do much imo

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Delta Chamber is comfy and also gives dash strike i-frames

rapid forum
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rocket bombs away

rotund pawn
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yo rocket splash dmg kinda nutty

remote slate
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hazard bomb

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artemis

reef zodiac
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Love when I crit myself bouldy

rotund pawn
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I'm also not a fan of the bow either I might try that

remote slate
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what attack should I run on lucifer

reef zodiac
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Zeus

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Look for jolted

rapid forum
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I haven't run lucifer in a while

rotund pawn
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divine strike with exagryph, kinda wanna see how this plays out

reef zodiac
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Honestly don’t know if I’ve ever done that

rapid forum
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I've done lucifer with divine strike

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the only point of deflect is the tip of the gun

reef zodiac
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Yeah I was gonna say it probably works like that

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Wait tip of the gun? Do you mean end of the laser? Or literally like right in front of zag

rapid forum
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start of the laser

reef zodiac
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Oh interesting

rapid forum
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might be wrong, but it would delete projectiles when you hit them with laser

rotund pawn
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been using old spiked collar for a while, should I swap it out? It's a max

wary mural
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if you want a specific starting boon or pecific boon after a boss go for it for the god specific ones

lament robin
lament robin
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Especially if it has Ricochet Shot when I use Exagryph

rotund pawn
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what I'm running rn is divine strike, heartbreak flourish, phalanx shot, and broken resolve.

lament robin
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I made it back to the final boss but I did worse, cus I was out of d defiance

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But I'm refilled with confidence knowing that I've actually gotten to him twice in a row

rotund pawn
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oof, I'm pretty good at keeping my defiance. I tend to lose my first one around temple of styx

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the rats are annoying when I can't find the fountain to cure the poison

wary mural
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going to hades rn no d defience and 230 hp and a nuke that does 1000 damage

lament robin
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I always lose one near the 2v1 against ||Theseus and the Bull||

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And then I lose a couple more right afterwards

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But I'm getting better!

rotund pawn
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I'm still kinda new to hades since I've only gotten to ||Persephone|| twice but I find that if I take out asterius first if I don't face him on earlier then I focus on Theseus after

lament robin
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I never been good with RNG, but when the run starts off well, it pays off

wary mural
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i got killed by the ads hades spawned

rotund pawn
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Got to Asphodel with hermes as my starting boon. Hopefully I get a double dash or rapid fire

lament robin
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What would you say is the weapon you're worst with? I'd probably say the sword

rotund pawn
wary mural
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untill i get fury slice

lament robin
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Because all the other melee weapons have something going for them

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Aside from MAYBE the twin fists of Malphon, but like, those are still awesome

wary mural
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i like the gauntlets bc you can hold down the attack forrever

lament robin
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Gauntlets are a spammy weapon

rotund pawn
lament robin
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Is Talos the one with the magnet effect on the strong attack?

rotund pawn
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I just love trapping my enemies in the spikes

wary mural
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yes

lament robin
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Yeah, that one's fun

wary mural
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skorpion wins

lament robin
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And the range on it is surprising

rotund pawn
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When you get dread flight and doom on your special it feels amazing

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pure bliss

lament robin
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It feels like I'm playing melee again, when Marth had the second stupidest grab in the game

rotund pawn
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talking about the shield btw

wary mural
wary mural
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kinda

lament robin
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@rotund pawn the run that I had gotten to the final bosses second phase, I ran shield with Athena Attack, and I believe Ares Special

wary mural
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weird choice

reef zodiac
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That’s what I call the “45 minute run” bouldy

lament robin
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No, it was a really good choice

rotund pawn
reef zodiac
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You can go wrong with Ares

lament robin
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You can

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I have

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I can't remember which weapon and which boon

wary mural
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ares dash is bad imo

lament robin
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But I have regretted an ares boon

reef zodiac
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Ares aid is very bad

rotund pawn
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what should I use for hermes, I got greater evasion, greater reflex +1 and quick recovery. Deciding between evasion and reflex

reef zodiac
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The dash is not terrible but not great

lament robin
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Also, Ares Cast ain't great

reef zodiac
wary mural
rotund pawn
mint ember
rotund pawn
wary mural
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what should i get for varatha

reef zodiac
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You mean what aspect?

lament robin
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The spear?

wary mural
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guan yu

reef zodiac
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Sorry can you clarify what you’re asking

lament robin
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Guan Yu is the obvious choice for the spear

reef zodiac
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Is it??

lament robin
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Unless ya meen Boons

wary mural
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what boons for it

reef zodiac
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For Guan Yu?

wary mural
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yes

lament robin
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@reef zodiac is Guan Yu not good...?

reef zodiac
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Heartbreak Flourish or Strike or both

rotund pawn
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zeus' aid or heavens vengeance, I'm leaning towards aid

reef zodiac
wary mural
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aid

lament robin
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Note to self, never trust the internet again, ask on discord

wary mural
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achilles best spear

reef zodiac
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Achilles goated

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But Guan Yu can be strong. It just needs hammer(s)

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Charged Skewer especially

lament robin
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Cus it said that Guan Yu is the preferred aspect for spear

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I feel like Dionysus special would be good on spear

reef zodiac
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Maybe that person preferred it

lament robin
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Cus it stacks, don't it?

rotund pawn
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quick question, do duo boons override all other boon choices (must pick) scenario cause I got passion dash, parting shot (zeus/aphrodite), and wave of despair

reef zodiac
reef zodiac
lament robin
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@rotund pawn are you asking if duo boons will get rid of your other boons?

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Cus no, if anything, it empowers them

rotund pawn
reef zodiac
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Like if it’s better to take a duo over the other options?

rotund pawn
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yes

reef zodiac
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Because that depends on the duo and on the other options

rotund pawn
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passion dash, parting shot, and wave of despair

reef zodiac
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Parting shot does next to nothing outside of a very few situations

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But then again, I’m not a fan of those other boons either

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I might take Parting and sell it for ~430 gold

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Passion dash isn’t bad but I generally prefer other dash options

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Wave of Despair is not a good boon imo

lament robin
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Zeus and Posioden duo is great on twin fists

reef zodiac
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Sea storm? It depends on how you’re pushing things away

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Sea Storm is always great on shield though

lament robin
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My strategy is I just mash the b and y buttons

reef zodiac
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Because your attack, dash-strike, and bull rush count as “knock away effects”

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Sea storm’s strength is dependent on the effects that enable it

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And also it gets way better with Jolted and Double Strike

lament robin
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Also, am I the only one that thinks the various Aids boons aren't great?

reef zodiac
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Especially because double strike is bugged with Sea Storm

reef zodiac
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Most calls are very good

wary mural
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and smair + zues aid = damage

reef zodiac
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Also, all calls give i-frames when used. Even the ones that you didn’t think did

reef zodiac
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Indeed

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It does a lot more than it says

last veldt
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Good bugged or bad bugged

reef zodiac
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I believe that 40% double strike is actually basically 100% on 4 boons:
Thunder Flourish
Heaven’s Vengeance
Sea Storm
Thunder Flare

last veldt
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Oh my

reef zodiac
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Just another fun bug bouldy

rotund pawn
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delta chamber, seeking fire, or targeting system?

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Never used exagryph so just wondering

last veldt
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What aspect

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Probably targeting

rotund pawn
reef zodiac
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Targeting is good

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However

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Delta gives i-frames during a dash strike

rotund pawn
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ooo that sounds good

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I don't want to focus on reloading so Ima go with delta

reef zodiac
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Go for it

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Delta comfy

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Plus it lets you dash-strike through a Hades spin which is so sick

last veldt
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Go for it

reef zodiac
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You still need to time your dashes, but you don’t have to stop attacking when you do it.

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Which makes a big difference in terms of both safety and damage (assuming you’re stopping to empty dash. If you’re speedrunning and damage tanking on bosses then delta chamber technically lowers your DPS but only by a very small amount)

rotund pawn
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oof I got a tough one, life affirmation or sweet surrender

reef zodiac
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How are you applying weak? And what chamber are you in? And how much hp do you have? All of these are factors worth considering

rotund pawn
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chamber 31, and I'm applying weak through special and I got the rocket bomb

mint ember
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Im pissed

rotund pawn
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also have 200 hp

reef zodiac
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Also how much does your build actually benefit from 20% more damage. For example, a Zeus or Dionysus based build gains a lot more than an Aphrodite based build (ironically)

mint ember
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Basically rolled a nat 20 last run and got hyper delivery combo in asphodel BUT my controller drifted and chose quick reload instep d

reef zodiac
rotund pawn
mint ember
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So annoyed i just abandoned the run

reef zodiac
reef zodiac
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Parting Shot is very bad 99% of the time imo

rotund pawn
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I also have lightning phalanx

reef zodiac
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Lightning Phalanx is pretty good

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Doubt you’ll be getting caststabs much though

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I like LP because Phalanx shot doesn’t need it to be good, but LP makes it better

rotund pawn
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I alr chose sweet surrender rn I have to choose between aphordite and athena, my boons for athena are divine dash, last stand, or holy shield

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I'm prob gonna take the dash

reef zodiac
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Divine Dash is great

rotund pawn
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now for aphrodite I got wave of despair, empty inside, and life affirmation

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the only move that is effected by weak is my rocket bomb

reef zodiac
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You’ll be using that a lot probably

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Empty inside is a good boon

rotund pawn
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so empty

reef zodiac
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Wait

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No

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No empty inside is the bad one

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I was thinking of broken resolve

rotund pawn
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I alr chose empty, got another aphrodite boon, same 2 from the previous one. Empty is now replaced with different league

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next battle is theseus and minos so wish me luck

wary mural
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gl

rotund pawn
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minos down

wary mural
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ok

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asterius you mean

rotund pawn
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same thing

reef zodiac
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Bull of Minos

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Not Minos

wary mural
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asterius and thesius wish me luck

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got thrue used both d defience tho

runic parrot
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minos is asterius's dad

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i think, i forgot

reef zodiac
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His dad?

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I doubt that

runic parrot
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rather his wife was his mom

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so it's a kind of dad

wary mural
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his dad is minos googled it

runic parrot
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no it's not

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his dad is a cow

twin thistle
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only slightly cursed

reef zodiac
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Bro what

runic parrot
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bull

wary mural
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his dad is minos

runic parrot
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what

wary mural
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it sais ;Asterius was locked in a labyrinth by his father, King Minos, only to eventually be slain by Theseus. In death, the two are apparently comrades

runic parrot
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well yeah but he's not his birth father because that doesnt work

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which is what i said

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it's a kind of dad

twin thistle
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is that the uncursified in game lore

wary mural
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stepdad

twin thistle
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a foster father is pretty much a dad

runic parrot
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i havent read the lore in game in months so i wouldnt know

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yep

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a foster dad who locks you up in a labyrinth

twin thistle
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best kind

runic parrot
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theseus' friendship with him is what keeps me going

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you go bull man

wary mural
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after ketting killed by him

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i died

tacit nimbus
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pretty advanced logic

small thistle
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Really quick question, what’s the last weapon you unlock

reef zodiac
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Rail

small thistle
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Is it any good

reef zodiac
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Ofc

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Rail goated

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Imo second best weapon

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Eris and Hestia are both extremely good

small thistle
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I see

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Thank you

modern garnet
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Rail is strong but it can feel kinda bad if you build it wrong

reef zodiac
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Well isn’t that everything?

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Hestia is hard to build wrong

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Eris definitely has a few builds that are much better than others

small thistle
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Hestia is which one? I forget

reef zodiac
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Empowered shot when you reload

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For 150 base damage

small thistle
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Ohhh

small thistle
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Damn

reef zodiac
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Hestia is amazing

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Technically fastest rail bouldy

marble badge
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what do you mean technically

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it just is

reef zodiac
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Yes

marble badge
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eris does have a longer and more popular legacy though

reef zodiac
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But arguably Eris is a better speed weapon still

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Just like how Rama is technically fastest bow but Hera is still a better speed aspect (I think)

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Congrats on that btw dusa

high island
reef zodiac
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Back when the special did 50 instead of 45 bouldy

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Such an unnecessary nerf

high island
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No, just back when the other spears all sucked lol.

reef zodiac
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Yeah I know I was kidding

rotund pawn
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Hello

chrome wharf
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How many Zagreuses do we have now

rotund pawn
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enough

mint ember
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Are there any good guan yu build paths?

I tried a few times earlier today and i couldn't get something to stick

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Idk so far least favorite aspect

reef zodiac
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Charged Skewer

thorn scarab
chrome wharf
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smooch

calm zenith
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Guan Yu spin can probably support like any attack boon tbh

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So you can do a lot. There is a certain rhythm you get when you use special and spin together

reef zodiac
calm zenith
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Basically you spin into a group then pinpoint with special. It synergizes well with certain combos but I find it flexible

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Eh it's not bad damage is it

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It's just a pain to use that becomes unviable

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If they want to play GY they probably dont want to just hit special

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Add in spins and dash strikes

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It's more fun and engaging that way

tacit nimbus
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I still can't figure out how to take out Tisiphone. I have no clue how to dodge any of their attacks. I usually use up at least 1 death defy per encounter

calm zenith
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Hm. Deflect is best on her out of the Furies.

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Even if your dps is low you can do a lot by deflecting during her projectile spin

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Beyond that you just need to dodge her dashes and area of effect circles

tacit nimbus
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alright

calm zenith
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I think she may also have an area stun effect too

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So basically she punishes being too close to her

reef zodiac
tacit nimbus
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So only use pretty small combos?

calm zenith
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You want to find places to do damage

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What weapon?

tacit nimbus
#

I've used all of them, whichever has dark thirst

calm zenith
#

You usually just dont do combos. You do dash strike.

#

Okay

#

Dash strikes also cancel invulnerability from dashes

#

So you want to time them for when you arent being hit ideally

#

Maybe just start with Athena's keepsake for a while

tacit nimbus
#

so a lot of dash strikes?

calm zenith
#

Yeah

tacit nimbus
#

why Athena's?

calm zenith
#

In general that's better

tacit nimbus
#

deflects?

calm zenith
#

Deflect yeah

tacit nimbus
#

alright.

twin thistle
rotund pawn
#

Is 25:07 a decent clear time for my first completion?

twin thistle
#

yeah thats quite good for a first clear

high island
#

Any first clear is decent in my book. It's not a race. dusa

rotund pawn
#

2nd clear was 34 minutes cause I was taking my sweet time with the exagryphron

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Ima see how much of a difference having god mode turned on is

civic dagger
#

my first and second clear took 44 minutes... wow

#

what I consider to be my most powerful run took me 33 minutes

#

(I am new I only won three times)

twin thistle
rotund pawn
#

Got a new best clear time with twin fists

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25:07 to 19:47

empty pelican
#

just got sub 15 IGT for the first time and I wasn't even making a point to play fast just kinda happened

#

I'll take it

gray apex
#

pog

mint ember
#

I was on pace for a 16 minute run yesterday but had to go through all rooms in styx

#

Unluuuuucky

zenith skiff
#

oh rippp

lone kernel
#

There’s no bad decisions, only bad outcomes

empty pelican
#

hestia big fun

#

first ever time using and I got a clear (was on 0 heat but whatever)

#

took hardly any damage too, managed to get 30+% on butterfly

reef zodiac
#

lol I don’t even run butterfly for my hitless runs bouldy

#

Butterfly just does so little for Hestia, especially with heartbreak strike

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I mean it does so little in general. But especially for Hestia it’s just hard to justify

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Can be fun though ig

versed mason
#

just need that butterfly achievement

lone kernel
#

@steady vector take this discussion here - but you’re getting better each run, sooner or later you’ll be running 32 heat

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I promise that’s attainable for anyone who wants it to be

steady vector
#

i’m doing 2 heat ffs 😫😫

lone kernel
#

That’s fine! Play at your own pace

steady vector
#

ahmed 🤙

lone kernel
#

There’s no wrong way to play hades lol

steady vector
#

thank you man

lone kernel
#

well except icy flare beowulf

#

don’t do that lol

steady vector
#

never heard of that

lone kernel
#

Unless you’re memeing

steady vector
#

what does it give

lone kernel
#

Beo is a weapon you’ll unlock sooner or later, I’ll leave it at that for now

steady vector
#

aha okay

#

and when can i choose what weapon i want with titans blood?

lone kernel
#

right now

steady vector
#

i don’t know how

lone kernel
#

You can spend any blood you have at the weapon selection screen

steady vector
#

thing is

lone kernel
#

Go to the weapon, hit show aspects, then you can buy them there

steady vector
#

i cant reveal the weapon

#

idk what i’m doing wrong

reef zodiac
#

Do you have the adamant rail?

steady vector
#

what’s that

reef zodiac
#

Ah

lone kernel
#

The gun

steady vector
#

oh the gun

#

i think i do

lone kernel
#

Check

steady vector
#

i’m not at the pc yet

#

i’ll be on in 5

reef zodiac
#

Once you have the gun, you should unlock aspects after a single run

steady vector
#

single run including i can fail?

reef zodiac
#

Yes

gray apex
chrome wharf
steady vector
#

okay

#

i unlocked the gun

#

ill try now

chrome wharf
#

you need 1 run after unlocking all weapons to do aspects

empty pelican
reef zodiac
#

Oh gotcha

steady vector
#

i got it to work

#

got to hades but failed

lone kernel
#

You should be able to unlock aspects now. My bad didn’t realize needed to unlock the rail first

fathom elbow
#

can someone recommend me a build to beat 8 heat

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and best weapon

empty pelican
#

"best weapon" is just whatever you're most comfortable with

fathom elbow
#

oh ok

empty pelican
#

tell us what you like using and we can tell you build that works with that weapon/aspect

fathom elbow
#

I like using spear with the achilles, poseidon sword, and chiron bow

empty pelican
#

I can't really speak for spear and sword but hangover is quite strong on chiron

#

could get Artemis on special and go for heart rend too

#

both of those are quite nice

fathom elbow
#

interesting

#

is there any specific boons which make hangover stronger

empty pelican
#

Dionysus and Aphro duo is good

#

obviously get t2 Dionysus boons too

#

if you're going for Dionysus and Aphro duo then also take privileged status in mirror

fathom elbow
#

o damn these tier 2 seem really cool, i didn't know these even existed

empty pelican
#

I'm far from an expert at this game so you could always ask other people for help too

fathom elbow
#

i'm just starting to strategize about finding duo boons and such, i'll definitely use these tips

#

im still a noob lol

#

would gun work with hangover too?

#

im kinda bored of using the bow always

empty pelican
#

anything that hits alot is good with hangover

#

chiron, fists, rail immediately come to mind

reef zodiac
fathom elbow
reef zodiac
#

Those are probably my top 5

fathom elbow
reef zodiac
#

Eris goated

#

What build do you go for?

fathom elbow
#

hangover

#

lol

reef zodiac
#

If you haven’t, I suggest trying Zeus

#

Zeus attack, get jolted

#

Look for Tidal Dash

empty pelican
#

zeus is cracked on rail

reef zodiac
#

Rocket Bomb and Cluster Bomb are great hammers, especially together

empty pelican
#

if you can try get Artemis for support fire too

reef zodiac
#

Eh

#

Support fire is meh

fathom elbow
#

it was my fastest run

reef zodiac
#

Doom clockets shadegrief

fathom elbow
#

how can I change the starting hammer ?

#

by giving up?

reef zodiac
#

400 base damage and then an extra 60 doom bouldy

empty pelican
reef zodiac
#

On Zeus Eris it’s meh

empty pelican
#

you have to die and start a new run for that

fathom elbow
#

oh

#

i heard you can spam dash and it will change

reef zodiac
#

?

#

Dash doesn’t call RNG

reef zodiac
#

That’s just false lmao

fathom elbow
#

aw man

#

these hammer upgrades suck

#

let me just die

#

ngl this shotgun seems cool

#

but the range sucks

#

also how do I romance dusa, in the codex her heart is locked

#

i cant gift

reef zodiac
#

Especially with Rocket and Tidal

empty pelican
# fathom elbow also how do I romance dusa, in the codex her heart is locked

"Dusa’s favour unlocks after having given her 6 bottles of Nectar. It involves the Lounge’s renovations, and requires for you to have the House Contractor unlocked. Fulfilling her favor is easy, though expensive: you’ll have to purchase 12 upgrades for the Lounge, of which two of them must be the Lounge Flooring and Lounge Sanitation; and another one a rug."
found this online

fathom elbow
#

I didn't want to search it up incase I get spoiled

#

This is perfect

#

good thing I got gems saved up

high island
# fathom elbow I like using spear with the achilles, poseidon sword, and chiron bow
#

Should help with Achilles and Poseidon.

gray apex
zinc flint
#

I shouldn’t have messed with the boatman

#

I just got my rear handed to me brutally

gray apex
last veldt
#

Charon slaps with that oar

mint ember
#

Lo

#

Halfway through a run and i got epic hyper sprint eyes_triggered

#

Pray for delivery

lost quarry
#

Hello guys, I have a question

#

So Im trying to get the rest of my summons, I just need Sisyphus and Achilles, but the key conversation are just not appearing

#

Do I need to follow a pattern for them to appear or something

#

Or die after I talk to Sisyphus and Achilles friend??

#

Thank you guys

lone kernel
#

Once you can’t any more, just keep doing runs

crude surge
#

Have you pardoned them yet

lone kernel
#

Then you gotta buy a thing from the contractor that shows up eventually

crude surge
#

Sisyphus and Patroclus

lost quarry
#

I have already gave them all the nectar possible

#

And I already had made multiple runs, and talk to them a bunch of times, but nothing is happening

crude surge
#

You need to buy something from the house contractor

crude surge
#

If it isn’t there just keep talking to them?

lost quarry
#

Yeah like the contract, right??

#

But it doesn’t appear yet

crude surge
#

Hades dialogue just pulls one from the pool of all available dialogue

lost quarry
#

The yellow dot

crude surge
#

?

lost quarry
#

Yeah, Hades dialogue already happened, I just need nix, but is not showing up

crude surge
#

???

lost quarry
#

Yeah it’s weird

crude surge
#

I don’t understand what your saying

lost quarry
# lost quarry The yellow dot

The yellow dot that shows up in the house of contractor, once you talk with Nyx, she is suppose to tell you where the contract is

#

You know what I mean??

crude surge
#

Just keep talking to her then

#

If you have all the hearts

#

It just takes a while for the right dialogue to show up

lost quarry
#

Mmmhh alrighttt

#

Thank youu

last veldt
#

Yeah, Nyx can be a bit of a bottleneck for dialogue since she has a lot to say on a lot of things.

#

It'll happen

reef zodiac
#

Delivery rarity makes a huge difference though, obviously

mint ember
#

is it just me or is exit wounds the rarest boon in the game pensivebrain

#

i wanna try exit wounds poseidon aspect lol

reef zodiac
#

It’s just you

#

All you need is a lodging cast

#

The rarest boon is Bad News

#

But there are definitely some rare non-legendary boons; boons that only have one prereq

#

Rip Current, Blown Kiss

#

I can’t remember if that’s it

twin thistle
#

glacial glare thanthink

#

high tolerance too thanthink

reef zodiac
#

Oh right

#

Yes

#

Those are easier to get because the prereq for them doesn’t open up a ton of other T2s

#

Crush Shot and Poseidon’s Aid both open up a ton of other tier 2s

lone kernel
#

Glacial is fairly reliable at appearing

reef zodiac
#

Yeah because Crystal Beam isn’t a prereq for anything else

mint coral
#

Meme beam moment

lone kernel
#

Like meme beam/glacial way more common than Poseidon aid/rip

crude surge
#

Bad News zagluv

reef zodiac
#

1% chance bouldy

crude surge
#

It’s so good tho

reef zodiac
#

It is

#

Although you could also just get RD

high island
#

@mint ember don't take any boons from her except Hunter Dash and Support Fire until you see Exit Wounds. Try to get as many core boons from other gods as you can, that way Lady Artemis will stop offering you boons for those slots. Should be an easy Exit Wounds pickup in your run if you do that.

#

Taking any boons from her that can crit will unlock her tier 2 crit pool, which makes it a lot harder to get Exit Wounds.

#

Because then she'll start offering you Hunter's Mark etc.

reef zodiac
#

Speaking of which, wouldn’t it be nice if Artemis had good T2s beside Hunter’s Mark?

high island
#

It's also the easiest route to her legendary.

#

Support Fire is tier 2. That's really good on at least two weapons.

reef zodiac
#

Hide Breaker, Clean Kill, Hunter Instinct

reef zodiac
high island
#

Malphon and Exagryph.

reef zodiac
#

Mmm idk

high island
#

I can tell that you don't know. dusa

reef zodiac
#

SF is useless for Hestia and very underwhelming for Eris

#

It’s also not helpful for Gilgamesh

high island
#

It's practically another Lightning Strike on Eris.

reef zodiac
#

Eh…

#

I don’t agree

#

It’s also pretty useless for ME fists

#

And very underwhelming for Zap fists

chrome wharf
#

support fire is DC popping at the very least

reef zodiac
#

That’s true

#

Can be nice in some situations

#

But they rarely aim where you want them to

crude surge
#

The best way to get exit wounds is to not play a cast weapon

high island
crude surge
#

Then it just shows up

reef zodiac
high island
#

Support Fire can outdamage Lightning Strike in some encounters. They're pretty close.

crude surge
#

Support fire good on fast hit rate

high island
#

Jolted isn't Lightning Strike damage.

reef zodiac
#

Maybe I’m wrong but to my knowledge Eris speedruns don’t look for SF really at all

reef zodiac
high island
#

Deadly Flourish and Pressure Points with Hunter's Mark are more important, but Support Fire is still a great boon on Eris.

reef zodiac
#

Maybe

#

I haven’t found it to be very good in my experience but I could be wrong idk

mint ember
#

support fire is really fun

high island
#

And honestly I don't really care as much about speedrun builds as you might think. They're not terribly relevant at high heat. You don't have much of a reason to roll away Support Fire, it's a decent pick.

mint ember
#

regardless of how good it is or not

mint ember
#

also its very satisfying to watch like 300 arrows flying around

reef zodiac
#

I’m definitely not rolling away SF with high heat Eris unless I’m desperately looking for something. So that’s a fair point

high island
#

Speedruns are practically "optimal(ish) or reset", which isn't really a good way to gauge what's decent.

raw herald
#

Speed runs are “huh I don’t need to play the whole game”

high island
#

?

reef zodiac
#

Lots of great runs end up with mediocre builds

raw herald
#

Current wr has 4 combat chambers in asphodel and elysium combined

#

And has a mediocre build

reef zodiac
#

Exactly

high island
#

Yes. But that's not the norm in speedruns.

#

You're not making a point tbh.

reef zodiac
#

For unmodded it happens a lot

raw herald
#

If by optimalish you mean pace as well, I agree

high island
#

Yes.

reef zodiac
#

Well that’s not about the build

high island
#

You reset for pace. Build can be a big factor in that.

raw herald
#

Imagine if ocaml reset cause he didn’t get hyper delivery bouldy

reef zodiac
#

Zero Hermes run

mint ember
#

unrelated but i watched the entirety of the 3 and a half hour vid on mythology behind hades

#

i could prolly watch that again like 5 times

crude surge
#

I guess the return to Hades arc has to come first bouldy

reef zodiac
#

After mine. Wait your turn bouldy

high island
#

My turn? zfiestWOT

crude surge
high island
#

If this was still Early Access, I'd beat all your PBs just for fun for that. dusa

crude surge
#

Early access bouldy

#

Was watching Tounis strim it…it’s so cursed

reef zodiac
#

Why only in early access

#

My recorded pb is pretty slow you can beat it easy

#

My unrecorded switch PB is actually pretty quick by my standards though

#

But with some good RNG (or if I play better lol) I could get there

high island
#

Because that's when I still cared and played the most.

reef zodiac
#

Well why not return

high island
#

To do what?

reef zodiac
#

Idk

#

Beat my PB?

#

Just to prove you can

high island
#

Don't think I need to prove that. dusa

reef zodiac
#

No, probably not.

#

You don’t need to prove anything

#

Could be fun though idk

high island
#

I'll do high heat when somebody takes my #1 spot on the women's leaderboard.

reef zodiac
#

Fair enough

lone kernel
#

support fire is decent i guess

crude surge
#

@ Toffel

lone kernel
#

i like feeling that at least 10 percent of the mess on screen is my mess

#

not bad guy mess

#

if you guys do race let me know

#

i'll commentate

#

with @chrome wharf

chrome wharf
#

scrubs only race when
unmodded PB > 10 mins only

high island
high island
#

Stream went on for several hours and I think one of them saw Elysium one time. zfiestWOT

#

Didn't make it far in Elysium.

brisk trail
#

how do i know if which room is facing the minotaur in elysium

#

if 2 doors are presented with the skull head

#

had came across those multiple times.

lone kernel
#

barring extra room chaos or erebus shenaningans, he will usually appear in room 30

#

but

#

theres only one way to know for sure

brisk trail
#

which is??

halcyon girder
#

Does anybody here have the unseen badge?

#

The unseen one badge

reef zodiac
#

Some people do, yes

halcyon girder
#

Mhm

#

I mean the only hard part getting unseen one badge is getting 12000 darkness

#

And getting through all of the other badges

reef zodiac
#

325,000

#

Total

high island
#

melon | crocodile food society — Today at 5:38 AM
one with three hammers just for you <3
@chrome wharf why did you use <3 instead of courte5AphroHeart ? Explain yourself. courte5AphroHeart courte5DusaBond

lone kernel
#

🐊🐊

muted pewter
#

Hey can anyone help me figure something out. I am trying to get Dusa's sticker and I can't figure out what is keeping it from triggering. I have the lounge fully upgraded. She has been fired and rehired. She has max hearts and I talk with her but get no new "!" conversations.

This is like the last thing i want to do with the game as everything else is just mega grind (Maxing out all weapons, Buying all house renovations, Last mirror Max upgrade, 32 Heat Skelly statue)

Anyone know what I am doing wrong?

high island
#

Probably not doing anything wrong. Just keep talking to everyone etc.

muted pewter
#

Just terrible luck? I suicide ran about a dozen times still nothing.

high island
#

No idea, I never did that to try to force-progress any dialogue trees.

chrome wharf
high island
#

It all just developed pretty naturally.

chrome wharf
#

is it bc my monthly tribute to the Lady is too low

high island
#

You need to link your Twitch account to your Discord account.

chrome wharf
#

I think I already did that?

mint ember
#

does piercing wave crit?

mint ember
#

figured out myself lol

#

also

#

tiny vermin

#

lo

#

ayy new PB

#

18:05

devout terrace
brisk trail
high island
#

Do you have Meg summon yet? She'll take care of most of the armor for you, and then you can kill it very quickly before things go bad.

#

Just dash up to its spawn point immediately and then summon her on top of it. Be careful not to summon too early.

brisk trail
#

thats not the problem

#

the problem is the attacks from the ball + rapidly spawning warriors.

#

those can become a big problem + i wanna get some stacks on my butterfly 🤑

gray apex
#

Try killing it

real wadi
#

Dodge the attacks 🥶

devout terrace
#

Yeah no butterfly ball/asterius is probably the hardest part of a no hit run aside from styx

south lance
#

what should i prioritize in spending my diamonds into? ||fated keys|| seem fire

ashen olive
#

hello guys, i wonder how you get to the end of the game, i thought you had to max out all relations with gods and characters but i've done like 15 escapes without unlocking any of the god locked hearts even though i met them wearing their fully maxed out keepsake, is it only luck or you have to do something particular to unlock them?

ashen olive
#

so maybe don't abort the attempt idk, but i think it's mostly luck yes

lethal spade
#

How do i get the last version of exagryth the admant rail (the gun)

south lance
#

oh i just wanna avoid any trouble lmao

devout terrace
#

"All spoilers welcome!"

south lance
steady vector
#

worst boon 3 2 1 go

#

aphrodite boons

gray apex
rapid forum
#

Mistral Dash

raw herald
#

Peer pressure

rapid forum
#

and Aphro boons don't even come close to bad

gray apex
#

Aphro boons are very good

#

Ares call pretty bad

devout terrace
#

Wdym doom attack is awful

#

Pretty sure demeter is still by far the worst

#

Shes not worth forcing outside of cast builds

#

Her special and attack are never going to be your top options

strong ridge
#

she’s nothin 2 build for but chill is neat and if u don’t need x core she isn’t the worst thing to ever happen

gray apex
last veldt
#

Just did and Arthur Aphro build it it was stonks (+150% from Aphro, +200% dash strike damage from Chaos and +80% striking from behind). Aphro friendly gilmanlove

#

Demeter attack on a bow with flurry shot can be effective. Ares on the other other hand has almost nothing I would ever use (and that includes Merciful End mostly)

devout terrace
#

battle rage can be useful

strong ridge
#

i like battle rage a lot 👍

#

good crutch

silk badger
#

Hello

reef zodiac
gray apex
#

Waiting for your sub6 then

reef zodiac
#

My anyheat arc will be short lived

#

And unimpressive

empty pelican
#

got 5 sacked and died because td3

#

got Hades down to 1/4th health on his second phase 👍

#

I only need to level up some keepsakes and I've got every trophy which is pretty cool

gray apex
reef zodiac
#

I have a very short amount of time left where I will be able to play the game due to personal reasons, at least for the next few months. But ideally I wanted to get a recorded sub7. So far I haven’t gotten close but I also haven’t gotten amazing RNG. My unrecorded PB is 6:45 so I know it’s definitely possible, (especially since that was done without high confidence because I forgot it bouldy ) so I’m just hoping I either get the RNG I need or play better, but due to my limited time, it would probably have to be the former (with hopefully a bit of the latter)

#

Because if I was better, I could definitely sub7 on some of the seeds I’m getting

#

But also if I was luckier I could sub7 as well

gray apex
#

Beo?

reef zodiac
#

Yeah

gray apex
#

Nice

raw herald
#

Unmodded?

gray apex
#

Yea they're on ps I think

reef zodiac
#

Yeah

raw herald
#

Good luck then

reef zodiac
#

Thx

raw herald
#

I did like 3 unmodded runs yesterday and got barge on all 3

reef zodiac
#

Lol

raw herald
#

3 consecutive shield PBs tho

#

(I hadn’t played unmodded in ages)

gray apex
#

Unmodded is... something

reef zodiac
#

I just need to get more free rooms and ideally CShot more as well

raw herald
#

Knowing when to reset probably helps as well

reef zodiac
#

I’m getting insane builds out of Tartarus but then having to do C16-18 and C30-34 bouldy

raw herald
#

Oh I’m usually the opposite

reef zodiac
#

With like maybe one or two shops thrown in there

raw herald
#

I’ll enter furies at 1:25 with a level 2 common flare

reef zodiac
#

Yeah I’m leaving Tart with lvl 4 cast and mirage and a chaos bloodstone at like 1:58 because I had to do almost every chamber and I’m bad bouldy

raw herald
#

1:58 is a really solid exit still

#

My 6:32 has a 2:01

#

I’ve had a 7:04 off a 2:39 bouldy

reef zodiac
#

If I beat my unrecorded pb that would be so sick. That’s my real goal eventually but I doubt I’ll get it in the next few days (which is all the time I have for now)

raw herald
#

I’m gonna do a power hour

#

We’ll see how that goes

reef zodiac
#

Good luck

raw herald
#

Run 1: 7:51 3 sack (1:51 3:27 5:55 bouldy )

raw herald
#

Got the cast bug twice in one run bouldy

devout terrace
#

which one bouldy

raw herald
#

The one where you can’t get the boon

devout terrace
#

(I know what you're talking about lel)

raw herald
#

Lol

#

Too many

gray apex
#

lol

#

I still have yet to experience that

reef zodiac
#

Hate that bug

devout terrace
#

that happend on hyper delivery 3

raw herald
#

It was a dead run anyway

devout terrace
#

to duunk0

raw herald
#

Also croven in ex wr

reef zodiac
#

I think I lost 6 seconds in my recorded PB to that shadegrief

#

But it’s fine because that run sucks anyway

signal aspen
#

i just realized its been a year since i first started playing hades

#

pretty pog

lavish hatch
#

huh okay

#

i have all the arms too

#

ill get 10 keys when i meet him

gray apex
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Would be a year for me on the 7th

signal aspen
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nice

hearty mural
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Is the max heat 63 and has it ever been done?

gray apex
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It's 64 and it's been done Routed

hearty mural
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Like rng manipulation?

lone kernel
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via RNG manipulation that’s like, getting hit by lightning from two separate sharks with winning lotto tickets in the same afternoon level of not gonna happen normally lol

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I don’t quite understand how it works

devout terrace
vague magnet
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Hello fellas, im trying to get the plat trophy for Hades, and i only miss the ones related to ||Achilles and Patroclus’|| quest. I maxed friendship with both of them, and keep running into Patroclus every time i can, but still the quest didnt trigger and its been quite a long time, therefore im wondering if im doing something wrong. Does anyone know if its the case?

versed mason
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it took after the epilogue for them to give me the special dialogue that signals their ready to wrap up the quest

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it just takes a long time for some reason

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they both have a lot of unrelated dialogue that covers up and has priority over that quest for some reason, esp Achilles

vague magnet
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Yeah but im far past the epilogue by now, and Achilles has nothing more to say it seems. Maybe i need to exhaust Patroclus’ dialogue, but it just seemed a bit weird to me

gray apex
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@brisk trail Probably close to 2K ish but a lot of them are resets

brisk trail
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you are crazy good man

gray apex
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Not really, Heat isn't the best indicator of how good someone is

brisk trail
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ok, but 6 minute run is

gray apex
lone kernel
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(actually tho, you’re mad good if you can beat 50 heat w icy flare)

gray apex
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Well you could say I'm decent at Beowulf and maybe Rama but that's about it

marble badge
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I think you're quite a little better than decent

devout terrace
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Hottake

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Mike good

vague magnet
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I cannot play Beo my brain just refuses its like a dark magic

empty pelican
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sad

reef zodiac
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Try remapping cast to a shoulder button (if you’re on controller)

mint ember
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Haven't unlocked beowulf yet

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But to my knowledge its like one of the faster aspects?

gray apex
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It's both fast and incredibly safe aswell

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Takes a bit of getting used to

mint ember
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Shield so far is definitely my least used weapon

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Im still trying to max out mirror so i normally go with whatever one is glowing

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Stygius and Fists are my favorite as of now

reef zodiac
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Funny, those are my least favorite two bouldy

mint ember
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In other games i tend to gravitate toward tank classes/characters

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So thats prolly why

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Aside from terraria

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Summoner is by far my favorite in terraria despite being the squishiest

mint coral
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Managed to get mods working on switch
Died to dad lmao

gray apex
mint coral
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Achilles makes me go oonga bunga

reef zodiac
mint coral
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Buyed my switch used and already was with cfw/banned from the online
But the risk doesnt go too high if you know what you are doing