#h1-discussion
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Fishing seems pretty neat, but not particularly powerfull. At supreme luck, a titan blood. on average, likely some gems.
Well.
fishing is rad
You'll probably run out of use for Titan Blood before you run out of use for Gemstones.

gems is nice real late game trying to get all the house of hades decorations
nice
Can't wait for bots to develop sentience and stop spamming discords.
one day
The issue is I have a pc copy now and guaranteed hammer is better than tv lol
After I gave everyone 1 nectar, I started indiscrinately handing it to everyone. Except Hades. Especially cerberus.
What a gamer
no mechanic benefit for past 1, yes. still nice, yes.
meg, sisyphus, achilles, dusa, than, and skelly give an extra item if you give enough nectar then do a favor for them and give an ambrosia
they'll find out in time 👀
yeah
I knowww but like tmi ya know, they didn't really ask and the joy of discovery is wonderful but it's technically fine
I can never decide on titan blood spending. Aspects are obviously good, but still hard to decide which ones.
are there ever any benefits to going into the rooms with two of the gods’ symbols on them? like do they ever lead to a duo boon instead of a fight?
Eris rail Achilles spear Zeus shield
oh mood
if you want the easiest ones to learn
and git gud
but whatever weapon u like
cause you’ll git gud the fastest by playing what’s comfortable
I don't really want the legendary ones. Cool, yes. Worthwile, not in my opinion.
Hades is definately a very aggressive game.
they cant give duos
Legendaries yes tho
okay good to know, I went in once and immediately knew I screwed up lol
ever get second wave and splitting bolt in the same room
Having 2 boons in one room is very strong
Not a mistake - two boons gud
but no duos yes
splitting bolt is very powerful. or just getting more zeus boons in general
fully loaded for a cast build is pretty big too
this is true 
*it is real just mad hard to get
for newer players
I got it 8 times in 470 runs lol
two prereqs and neither of them being core boons does make it a bit difficult


I wont do that anytime soon 
It’s true
Lol
nah
go for full cast dmg and one shot bosses
what is there to dodge if the boss is dead
win runs
oceans bounty
chaos boon
for more darkness
darker thirst
but like deadass, 250 for beating dad base thats as good as it gets the 10 in rooms accomplishes nothing after early game
i think its 550 for all bosses
beyond that, there really isnt a quick way
like go to this area and theres 500 healing items you can stockpile kinda situation
doesnt exist

More or less, yeah
cant be a bounty that you already had
550 per clear base tho
so use that to like, gauge your progress
ive seen the last dad drop be like
1250 once lol
with all three of thirst, poseidon's oceans bounty and an epic chaos that gives u more gems and darkness
oh wait also before you start if you havent already, buy the contractor upgrade that gives you gems for killing bosses
no that's base - 50/100/150/250 for each boss
wait its 600 i cant count
just makin sure 🙂
Hey I got a question I already asked in Hades for new players chat
Should I ask it again here?
@lament robin dark thirst means your weapon gets 20% more darkness and gems on that run only
youll see it by a purple cloud around one of the weapons
Oh! It's the purple cloud thing
it switches every run
yeah
so if you get a 10 darkness room you get 12 now
dark thirst will still apply to gems he gets just via rooms
No, I don't, but I can get it
if he doesnt know what dark thirst is, im assuming rookie, ten runs in or so
welcome to the game of the year my dude

Oh no, ik what it is, I just didn't know it was called that
yep, that's it
aight word
godspeed with your farming
buy every light of ixion you see
It’s not worth it imo
If you’re farming your main source of darkness and gemstones is gonna be bosses
You can farm a ton by just beating runs fast
you have its other side maxed?
Fated persuasion is so much better
unless OP means literally every single other purple/green ability
ok good
gods I remember that taking 10 years
Just reset your mirror
word
The gods are pretty whiny. I mean, their gods, they always get what they want. They sure don't take it well if your forced to pick a blessing.
what does addad to the attack sequence even mean
example: your dash strike does + 60% damage ;added to attack sequence
sorry
Normally when you hold attack on fists, you do 5 short punches
With rolling knuckle, the combo becomes 6 punches with the last one being the same as a dash strike
ok thx
lol 2 places where it's on topic is hardly everywhere pls
Yes that's what people do sometimes
No need to be a prick about it
i just go to here bc way more active chat so higher chance to be seen
most people check both chats pretty regularly
most like
people who would answer in the first place that it
hades fight 2 defiences almost full health merciful end run wish me luck
I'm worried about going back to playing because I have a feeling I'll get addicted again
just do it or else you get addicted to an other game
just a quick question, is there any particular reason why sometimes you never encounter Asterius and you have to fight him at full hp?
RNG
oh aight so like when fighting the bone hydra it's rng for which moveset it gets?
before you encounter it?
I'm assuming it tells you by the statues in charons shop before you entire the fight?
no all heads look different different head different attack
yeah ik that I thought you meant that you could tell which hydra you're fighting before you entire the actual fight itself
well anyways I'm fighting hades again
ok good luck
beat him
damn good job what kind o build
athena crit dmg hermes dash build
damn, I gotta try that out. I've been loving shield of chaos and Aspect of Talos
don't remove the 2nd e from theseus
talos is fun i like zues shield better
sus
the sus
Zeus shield goated
I tried aspect of chaos and it's honestly meh
Yeah
Ima use exagryph since I never use it
15 base damage per special is just not enough
Do you want build suggestions or are you just gonna improvise?
nah I'll free style it. Hopefully I get the hammer at the start
have fun
Rocket Bomb is really good and fun
Seeking is kinda boring and doesn’t do much imo
Delta Chamber is comfy and also gives dash strike i-frames
rocket bombs away
yo rocket splash dmg kinda nutty
Love when I crit myself 
I'm also not a fan of the bow either I might try that
what attack should I run on lucifer
I haven't run lucifer in a while
divine strike with exagryph, kinda wanna see how this plays out
Honestly don’t know if I’ve ever done that
I've done lucifer with divine strike
the only point of deflect is the tip of the gun
Yeah I was gonna say it probably works like that
Wait tip of the gun? Do you mean end of the laser? Or literally like right in front of zag
start of the laser
Oh interesting
might be wrong, but it would delete projectiles when you hit them with laser
been using old spiked collar for a while, should I swap it out? It's a max
if you want a specific starting boon or pecific boon after a boss go for it for the god specific ones
Getting the hammer as the first thing always brings me joy
same here
Especially if it has Ricochet Shot when I use Exagryph
what I'm running rn is divine strike, heartbreak flourish, phalanx shot, and broken resolve.
I made it back to the final boss but I did worse, cus I was out of d defiance
But I'm refilled with confidence knowing that I've actually gotten to him twice in a row
oof, I'm pretty good at keeping my defiance. I tend to lose my first one around temple of styx
the rats are annoying when I can't find the fountain to cure the poison
going to hades rn no d defience and 230 hp and a nuke that does 1000 damage
I always lose one near the 2v1 against ||Theseus and the Bull||
And then I lose a couple more right afterwards
But I'm getting better!
I'm still kinda new to hades since I've only gotten to ||Persephone|| twice but I find that if I take out asterius first if I don't face him on earlier then I focus on Theseus after
I never been good with RNG, but when the run starts off well, it pays off
i got killed by the ads hades spawned
Got to Asphodel with hermes as my starting boon. Hopefully I get a double dash or rapid fire
What would you say is the weapon you're worst with? I'd probably say the sword
same
bow and spear, I'm best at shield, fists, sword
untill i get fury slice
Because all the other melee weapons have something going for them
Aside from MAYBE the twin fists of Malphon, but like, those are still awesome
i like the gauntlets bc you can hold down the attack forrever
Gauntlets are a spammy weapon
fun with talos though
Is Talos the one with the magnet effect on the strong attack?
I just love trapping my enemies in the spikes
yes
Yeah, that one's fun
skorpion wins
And the range on it is surprising
It feels like I'm playing melee again, when Marth had the second stupidest grab in the game
talking about the shield btw
Scorpion: GET OVER HERE
ah lol
already made that yoke
Based.
kinda
@rotund pawn the run that I had gotten to the final bosses second phase, I ran shield with Athena Attack, and I believe Ares Special
weird choice
That’s what I call the “45 minute run” 
No, it was a really good choice
you can never go wrong with ares imo, all of his boons are pretty good besides maybe the one where it only activates after d defiance
You can go wrong with Ares
ares dash is bad imo
But I have regretted an ares boon
Ares aid is very bad
what should I use for hermes, I got greater evasion, greater reflex +1 and quick recovery. Deciding between evasion and reflex
The dash is not terrible but not great
Also, Ares Cast ain't great
Yeah it needs a lot of other boons to be decent
bruh ares + artemis shreds
nah I got some great use out of it when the enemy is in a corner or doesn't move
idk i abuse this one pretty often if its the epic version
all default, no rarity on them
also true tho
what should i get for varatha
You mean what aspect?
The spear?
guan yu
Sorry can you clarify what you’re asking
Guan Yu is the obvious choice for the spear
Is it??
Unless ya meen Boons
what boons for it
For Guan Yu?
yes
@reef zodiac is Guan Yu not good...?
Heartbreak Flourish or Strike or both
zeus' aid or heavens vengeance, I'm leaning towards aid
It’s weird. Definitely not the best spear imo
aid
Note to self, never trust the internet again, ask on discord
achilles best spear
Achilles goated
But Guan Yu can be strong. It just needs hammer(s)
Charged Skewer especially
Cus it said that Guan Yu is the preferred aspect for spear
I feel like Dionysus special would be good on spear
Maybe that person preferred it
Cus it stacks, don't it?
quick question, do duo boons override all other boon choices (must pick) scenario cause I got passion dash, parting shot (zeus/aphrodite), and wave of despair
Spear special for non-Guan Yu aspects does so little damage it’s just not worth using at all without Exploding Launcher (or for raging rush on Achilles)
Sorry I’m not sure what you mean
@rotund pawn are you asking if duo boons will get rid of your other boons?
Cus no, if anything, it empowers them
no, I'm asking if getting duo boons are better to get in general compared to other options, i meant override as in they take higher priority over other options
Like if it’s better to take a duo over the other options?
yes
Because that depends on the duo and on the other options
passion dash, parting shot, and wave of despair
Parting shot does next to nothing outside of a very few situations
But then again, I’m not a fan of those other boons either
I might take Parting and sell it for ~430 gold
Passion dash isn’t bad but I generally prefer other dash options
Wave of Despair is not a good boon imo
Zeus and Posioden duo is great on twin fists
Sea storm? It depends on how you’re pushing things away
Sea Storm is always great on shield though
My strategy is I just mash the b and y buttons
Because your attack, dash-strike, and bull rush count as “knock away effects”
Sea storm’s strength is dependent on the effects that enable it
And also it gets way better with Jolted and Double Strike
Also, am I the only one that thinks the various Aids boons aren't great?
Especially because double strike is bugged with Sea Storm
Probably not the only one, but definitely highly in the minority
Most calls are very good
and smair + zues aid = damage
Also, all calls give i-frames when used. Even the ones that you didn’t think did
It is?
Good bugged or bad bugged
I believe that 40% double strike is actually basically 100% on 4 boons:
Thunder Flourish
Heaven’s Vengeance
Sea Storm
Thunder Flare
Oh my
Just another fun bug 
delta chamber, seeking fire, or targeting system?
Never used exagryph so just wondering
standard, I've never touched it until now
Go for it
Delta comfy
Plus it lets you dash-strike through a Hades spin which is so sick
Go for it
You still need to time your dashes, but you don’t have to stop attacking when you do it.
Which makes a big difference in terms of both safety and damage (assuming you’re stopping to empty dash. If you’re speedrunning and damage tanking on bosses then delta chamber technically lowers your DPS but only by a very small amount)
oof I got a tough one, life affirmation or sweet surrender
How are you applying weak? And what chamber are you in? And how much hp do you have? All of these are factors worth considering
chamber 31, and I'm applying weak through special and I got the rocket bomb
Im pissed
also have 200 hp
Also how much does your build actually benefit from 20% more damage. For example, a Zeus or Dionysus based build gains a lot more than an Aphrodite based build (ironically)
Basically rolled a nat 20 last run and got hyper delivery combo in asphodel BUT my controller drifted and chose quick reload instep d
I’d take sweet surrender since you’re pretty far. But I also prioritize dps more than you might
I forgot the name but I have the duo boon for aphrodite and zeus that does more dmg from behind
So annoyed i just abandoned the run
Aphrodite and Zeus duo is Smoldering Air. Do you mean Parting Shot (Aphrodite and Athena duo)? That boon only increases the backstab damage for your cast
yeah parting shot
mb
Parting Shot is very bad 99% of the time imo
I also have lightning phalanx
Lightning Phalanx is pretty good
Doubt you’ll be getting caststabs much though
I like LP because Phalanx shot doesn’t need it to be good, but LP makes it better
I alr chose sweet surrender rn I have to choose between aphordite and athena, my boons for athena are divine dash, last stand, or holy shield
I'm prob gonna take the dash
Divine Dash is great
now for aphrodite I got wave of despair, empty inside, and life affirmation
the only move that is effected by weak is my rocket bomb
so empty
I alr chose empty, got another aphrodite boon, same 2 from the previous one. Empty is now replaced with different league
next battle is theseus and minos so wish me luck
gl
minos down
same thing
his dad is minos googled it
Bro what
bull
his dad is minos
what
it sais ;Asterius was locked in a labyrinth by his father, King Minos, only to eventually be slain by Theseus. In death, the two are apparently comrades
well yeah but he's not his birth father because that doesnt work
which is what i said
it's a kind of dad
is that the uncursified in game lore
stepdad
a foster father is pretty much a dad
i havent read the lore in game in months so i wouldnt know
yep
a foster dad who locks you up in a labyrinth
best kind
pretty advanced logic
Really quick question, what’s the last weapon you unlock
Rail
Is it any good
Rail is strong but it can feel kinda bad if you build it wrong
Well isn’t that everything?
Hestia is hard to build wrong
Eris definitely has a few builds that are much better than others
Hestia is which one? I forget
Ohhh
Yes
eris does have a longer and more popular legacy though
But arguably Eris is a better speed weapon still
Just like how Rama is technically fastest bow but Hera is still a better speed aspect (I think)
Congrats on that btw 
It was the best spear in Early Access, so maybe you're looking at an out-of-date resource.
No, just back when the other spears all sucked lol.
Yeah I know I was kidding
Hello
How many Zagreuses do we have now
enough
Are there any good guan yu build paths?
I tried a few times earlier today and i couldn't get something to stick
Idk so far least favorite aspect
Charged Skewer
I wrote a guide for it here: #h1-discussion message
Might help.
speen
GOT DAMN
Guan Yu spin can probably support like any attack boon tbh
So you can do a lot. There is a certain rhythm you get when you use special and spin together
Well yes. But also the spin is bad kinda regardless Imo 
Basically you spin into a group then pinpoint with special. It synergizes well with certain combos but I find it flexible
Eh it's not bad damage is it
It's just a pain to use that becomes unviable
If they want to play GY they probably dont want to just hit special
Add in spins and dash strikes
It's more fun and engaging that way
I still can't figure out how to take out Tisiphone. I have no clue how to dodge any of their attacks. I usually use up at least 1 death defy per encounter
Hm. Deflect is best on her out of the Furies.
Even if your dps is low you can do a lot by deflecting during her projectile spin
Beyond that you just need to dodge her dashes and area of effect circles
alright
I think she may also have an area stun effect too
So basically she punishes being too close to her
It’s pretty bad. Especially for how slow it is
So only use pretty small combos?
I've used all of them, whichever has dark thirst
You usually just dont do combos. You do dash strike.
Okay
Dash strikes also cancel invulnerability from dashes
So you want to time them for when you arent being hit ideally
Maybe just start with Athena's keepsake for a while
so a lot of dash strikes?
Yeah
why Athena's?
In general that's better
deflects?
Deflect yeah
alright.
tis probably has the most predictable patterns with experience. she'll lean back and charge a whip attack which will stun you if youre hit then follow up with a dash shooting projectiles to the sides. the second pattern has her charge up a short lunge at you followed up by a second one and then a wide circular sweep. dealing with tis is mostly about remembering these two patterns.
Is 25:07 a decent clear time for my first completion?
yeah thats quite good for a first clear
Any first clear is decent in my book. It's not a race. 
2nd clear was 34 minutes cause I was taking my sweet time with the exagryph
Ima see how much of a difference having god mode turned on is
my first and second clear took 44 minutes... wow
what I consider to be my most powerful run took me 33 minutes
(I am new I only won three times)

just got sub 15 IGT for the first time and I wasn't even making a point to play fast just kinda happened
I'll take it
pog
I was on pace for a 16 minute run yesterday but had to go through all rooms in styx
Unluuuuucky
oh rippp
There’s no bad decisions, only bad outcomes
Based
hestia big fun
first ever time using and I got a clear (was on 0 heat but whatever)
took hardly any damage too, managed to get 30+% on butterfly
lol I don’t even run butterfly for my hitless runs 
Butterfly just does so little for Hestia, especially with heartbreak strike
I mean it does so little in general. But especially for Hestia it’s just hard to justify
Can be fun though ig
just need that butterfly achievement
@steady vector take this discussion here - but you’re getting better each run, sooner or later you’ll be running 32 heat
I promise that’s attainable for anyone who wants it to be
i’m doing 2 heat ffs 😫😫
That’s fine! Play at your own pace
🤙
There’s no wrong way to play hades lol
thank you man
never heard of that
Unless you’re memeing
what does it give
Beo is a weapon you’ll unlock sooner or later, I’ll leave it at that for now
right now
i don’t know how
You can spend any blood you have at the weapon selection screen
thing is
Go to the weapon, hit show aspects, then you can buy them there
Do you have the adamant rail?
what’s that
Ah
The gun
Check
Once you have the gun, you should unlock aspects after a single run
single run including i can fail?
Yes
Hey
Slicing Flare tho
you need 1 run after unlocking all weapons to do aspects
only used it for the 30% damage with butterfly achievement and I got it on my very first Hestia run too which was cool
Oh gotcha
You should be able to unlock aspects now. My bad didn’t realize needed to unlock the rail first
"best weapon" is just whatever you're most comfortable with
oh ok
tell us what you like using and we can tell you build that works with that weapon/aspect
I like using spear with the achilles, poseidon sword, and chiron bow
I can't really speak for spear and sword but hangover is quite strong on chiron
could get Artemis on special and go for heart rend too
both of those are quite nice
Dionysus and Aphro duo is good
obviously get t2 Dionysus boons too
if you're going for Dionysus and Aphro duo then also take privileged status in mirror
o damn these tier 2 seem really cool, i didn't know these even existed
I'm far from an expert at this game so you could always ask other people for help too
i'm just starting to strategize about finding duo boons and such, i'll definitely use these tips
im still a noob lol
would gun work with hangover too?
im kinda bored of using the bow always
anything that hits alot is good with hangover
chiron, fists, rail immediately come to mind
No but I can name a bunch of really good weapons:
Zeus Shield
Beowulf Shield
Rama Bow
Hestia Rail
Eris Rail
that makes sense, thx
Those are probably my top 5
i'm using eris rail right now
zeus is cracked on rail
Rocket Bomb and Cluster Bomb are great hammers, especially together
if you can try get Artemis for support fire too
i got these together once with ares boon
it was my fastest run
Doom clockets 
400 base damage and then an extra 60 doom 
I always thought it was really good
At best it’s decent
On Zeus Eris it’s meh
giving up won't change the starting hammer
you have to die and start a new run for that
That’s just false lmao
aw man
these hammer upgrades suck
let me just die
ngl this shotgun seems cool
but the range sucks
also how do I romance dusa, in the codex her heart is locked
i cant gift
Eris is a melee weapon
Especially with Rocket and Tidal
"Dusa’s favour unlocks after having given her 6 bottles of Nectar. It involves the Lounge’s renovations, and requires for you to have the House Contractor unlocked. Fulfilling her favor is easy, though expensive: you’ll have to purchase 12 upgrades for the Lounge, of which two of them must be the Lounge Flooring and Lounge Sanitation; and another one a rug."
found this online
Thank you
I didn't want to search it up incase I get spoiled
This is perfect
good thing I got gems saved up
Achilles Spear SpeedRun Guide 2021/07 by 185 Original guide in Japanese: https://hackmd.io/@fdpnI50NTZC0-T-yGpY5Dw/HJ2lg7BCu Foreword This guide is written with the assumption that you will get Flurry Jab as your first hammer. It does not touch on other builds like Serrated Point start. It is a...
General Cast build guide: #h1-builds-and-combat message
Should help with Achilles and Poseidon.


Charon slaps with that oar
Hello guys, I have a question
So Im trying to get the rest of my summons, I just need Sisyphus and Achilles, but the key conversation are just not appearing
Do I need to follow a pattern for them to appear or something
Or die after I talk to Sisyphus and Achilles friend??
Thank you guys
Keep giving nectar to Sisyphus Achilles and patty
Once you can’t any more, just keep doing runs
Have you pardoned them yet
Then you gotta buy a thing from the contractor that shows up eventually
Sisyphus and Patroclus
I have already gave them all the nectar possible
And I already had made multiple runs, and talk to them a bunch of times, but nothing is happening
You need to buy something from the house contractor
How can I do that??
If it isn’t there just keep talking to them?
Hades dialogue just pulls one from the pool of all available dialogue
The yellow dot
?
Yeah, Hades dialogue already happened, I just need nix, but is not showing up
???
Yeah it’s weird
I don’t understand what your saying
The yellow dot that shows up in the house of contractor, once you talk with Nyx, she is suppose to tell you where the contract is
You know what I mean??
Just keep talking to her then
If you have all the hearts
It just takes a while for the right dialogue to show up
Yeah, Nyx can be a bit of a bottleneck for dialogue since she has a lot to say on a lot of things.
It'll happen
The difference between common and epic hyper sprint is a lot smaller than it sounds, especially in terms of Hyper Delivery
Delivery rarity makes a huge difference though, obviously
is it just me or is exit wounds the rarest boon in the game 
i wanna try exit wounds poseidon aspect lol
It’s just you
All you need is a lodging cast
The rarest boon is Bad News
But there are definitely some rare non-legendary boons; boons that only have one prereq
Rip Current, Blown Kiss
I can’t remember if that’s it
Oh right
Yes
Those are easier to get because the prereq for them doesn’t open up a ton of other T2s
Crush Shot and Poseidon’s Aid both open up a ton of other tier 2s
Glacial is fairly reliable at appearing
Yeah because Crystal Beam isn’t a prereq for anything else
Meme beam moment
Like meme beam/glacial way more common than Poseidon aid/rip
Bad News 
1% chance 
@mint ember don't take any boons from her except Hunter Dash and Support Fire until you see Exit Wounds. Try to get as many core boons from other gods as you can, that way Lady Artemis will stop offering you boons for those slots. Should be an easy Exit Wounds pickup in your run if you do that.
Taking any boons from her that can crit will unlock her tier 2 crit pool, which makes it a lot harder to get Exit Wounds.
Because then she'll start offering you Hunter's Mark etc.
Speaking of which, wouldn’t it be nice if Artemis had good T2s beside Hunter’s Mark?
It's also the easiest route to her legendary.
Support Fire is tier 2. That's really good on at least two weapons.
Hide Breaker, Clean Kill, Hunter Instinct
Lucifer and…. Chiron?
Malphon and Exagryph.
Mmm idk
I can tell that you don't know. 
SF is useless for Hestia and very underwhelming for Eris
It’s also not helpful for Gilgamesh
It's practically another Lightning Strike on Eris.
Eh…
I don’t agree
It’s also pretty useless for ME fists
And very underwhelming for Zap fists
support fire is DC popping at the very least
That’s true
Can be nice in some situations
But they rarely aim where you want them to
The best way to get exit wounds is to not play a cast weapon
??? Lightning Strike does 10-15 damage. Support Fire does 10-14 damage.
Then it just shows up
They don’t bounce or apply jolted
Support Fire can outdamage Lightning Strike in some encounters. They're pretty close.
Support fire good on fast hit rate
Jolted isn't Lightning Strike damage.
Maybe I’m wrong but to my knowledge Eris speedruns don’t look for SF really at all
Right but if jolted didn’t exist then lightning strike wouldn’t be used 
Deadly Flourish and Pressure Points with Hunter's Mark are more important, but Support Fire is still a great boon on Eris.
support fire is really fun
And honestly I don't really care as much about speedrun builds as you might think. They're not terribly relevant at high heat. You don't have much of a reason to roll away Support Fire, it's a decent pick.
regardless of how good it is or not
Fair point
also its very satisfying to watch like 300 arrows flying around
I’m definitely not rolling away SF with high heat Eris unless I’m desperately looking for something. So that’s a fair point
Speedruns are practically "optimal(ish) or reset", which isn't really a good way to gauge what's decent.
Speed runs are “huh I don’t need to play the whole game”
A lot less than you may think
?
Lots of great runs end up with mediocre builds
Current wr has 4 combat chambers in asphodel and elysium combined
And has a mediocre build
Exactly
For unmodded it happens a lot
If by optimalish you mean pace as well, I agree
Yes.
Well that’s not about the build
You reset for pace. Build can be a big factor in that.
Imagine if ocaml reset cause he didn’t get hyper delivery 
Zero Hermes run
unrelated but i watched the entirety of the 3 and a half hour vid on mythology behind hades
i could prolly watch that again like 5 times
Nyaanyaa speed arc when 
I guess the return to Hades arc has to come first 
After mine. Wait your turn 
My turn? 

If this was still Early Access, I'd beat all your PBs just for fun for that. 
Why only in early access
My recorded pb is pretty slow you can beat it easy
My unrecorded switch PB is actually pretty quick by my standards though
But with some good RNG (or if I play better lol) I could get there
Because that's when I still cared and played the most.
To do what?
Don't think I need to prove that. 
I'll do high heat when somebody takes my #1 spot on the women's leaderboard.
Fair enough
support fire is decent i guess
@ Toffel
i like feeling that at least 10 percent of the mess on screen is my mess
not bad guy mess
if you guys do race let me know
i'll commentate
with @chrome wharf
scrubs only race when
unmodded PB > 10 mins only
Ball's in her court, yes. 
lol I've seen some players do fresh file races except instead of trying to make it out as fast as possible in their first run.. the race was for whoever made it out at all at any time after the first run.
Stream went on for several hours and I think one of them saw Elysium one time. 
Didn't make it far in Elysium.
how do i know if which room is facing the minotaur in elysium
if 2 doors are presented with the skull head
had came across those multiple times.
barring extra room chaos or erebus shenaningans, he will usually appear in room 30
but
theres only one way to know for sure
which is??
Some people do, yes
Mhm
I mean the only hard part getting unseen one badge is getting 12000 darkness
And getting through all of the other badges
50/50 chance, so just go for the better reward.
melon | crocodile food society — Today at 5:38 AM
one with three hammers just for you <3
@chrome wharf why did you use <3 instead of? Explain yourself.
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Hey can anyone help me figure something out. I am trying to get Dusa's sticker and I can't figure out what is keeping it from triggering. I have the lounge fully upgraded. She has been fired and rehired. She has max hearts and I talk with her but get no new "!" conversations.
This is like the last thing i want to do with the game as everything else is just mega grind (Maxing out all weapons, Buying all house renovations, Last mirror Max upgrade, 32 Heat Skelly statue)
Anyone know what I am doing wrong?
Probably not doing anything wrong. Just keep talking to everyone etc.
Just terrible luck? I suicide ran about a dozen times still nothing.
No idea, I never did that to try to force-progress any dialogue trees.
my tech dino brain can't figure out how to get emoji perms
It all just developed pretty naturally.
is it bc my monthly tribute to the Lady is too low
You need to link your Twitch account to your Discord account.
I think I already did that?
does piercing wave crit?
The only things that dont are explosive return on shield and the 40 damage merciful end doom bonus
;-; i hate butterfly ball
Do you have Meg summon yet? She'll take care of most of the armor for you, and then you can kill it very quickly before things go bad.
Just dash up to its spawn point immediately and then summon her on top of it. Be careful not to summon too early.
thats not the problem
the problem is the attacks from the ball + rapidly spawning warriors.
those can become a big problem + i wanna get some stacks on my butterfly 🤑
Dodge the attacks 🥶
Yeah no butterfly ball/asterius is probably the hardest part of a no hit run aside from styx
what should i prioritize in spending my diamonds into? ||fated keys|| seem fire
hello guys, i wonder how you get to the end of the game, i thought you had to max out all relations with gods and characters but i've done like 15 escapes without unlocking any of the god locked hearts even though i met them wearing their fully maxed out keepsake, is it only luck or you have to do something particular to unlock them?
yeah i bought everything in the lounge also and it took me like 6-7 tries (i won) to get her
so maybe don't abort the attempt idk, but i think it's mostly luck yes
How do i get the last version of exagryth the admant rail (the gun)
#h1-story-discussion pins
oh i just wanna avoid any trouble lmao
too used to new player channel cuz im a noob regardless


Peer pressure
and Aphro boons don't even come close to bad
Based
Wdym doom attack is awful
Pretty sure demeter is still by far the worst
Shes not worth forcing outside of cast builds
Her special and attack are never going to be your top options
she’s nothin 2 build for but chill is neat and if u don’t need x core she isn’t the worst thing to ever happen
I forced her in my Achilles 50 attempt for Crystal Clarity
Just did and Arthur Aphro build it it was stonks (+150% from Aphro, +200% dash strike damage from Chaos and +80% striking from behind). Aphro

Demeter attack on a bow with flurry shot can be effective. Ares on the other other hand has almost nothing I would ever use (and that includes Merciful End mostly)
battle rage can be useful
Hello
Demeter has one good boon LMAO
got 5 sacked and died because td3
got Hades down to 1/4th health on his second phase 👍
I only need to level up some keepsakes and I've got every trophy which is pretty cool
Any goals atm?
I have a very short amount of time left where I will be able to play the game due to personal reasons, at least for the next few months. But ideally I wanted to get a recorded sub7. So far I haven’t gotten close but I also haven’t gotten amazing RNG. My unrecorded PB is 6:45 so I know it’s definitely possible, (especially since that was done without high confidence because I forgot it
) so I’m just hoping I either get the RNG I need or play better, but due to my limited time, it would probably have to be the former (with hopefully a bit of the latter)
Because if I was better, I could definitely sub7 on some of the seeds I’m getting
But also if I was luckier I could sub7 as well
Beo?
Yeah
Nice
Unmodded?
Yea they're on ps I think
Yeah
Good luck then
Thx
I did like 3 unmodded runs yesterday and got barge on all 3
Lol
I just need to get more free rooms and ideally CShot more as well
Knowing when to reset probably helps as well
I’m getting insane builds out of Tartarus but then having to do C16-18 and C30-34 
Oh I’m usually the opposite
With like maybe one or two shops thrown in there
I’ll enter furies at 1:25 with a level 2 common flare
Yeah I’m leaving Tart with lvl 4 cast and mirage and a chaos bloodstone at like 1:58 because I had to do almost every chamber and I’m bad 
If I beat my unrecorded pb that would be so sick. That’s my real goal eventually but I doubt I’ll get it in the next few days (which is all the time I have for now)
Good luck
Run 1: 7:51 3 sack (1:51 3:27 5:55
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Got the cast bug twice in one run 
which one 
The one where you can’t get the boon
(I know what you're talking about lel)
Hate that bug
that happend on hyper delivery 3
It was a dead run anyway
to duunk0
Also croven in ex wr
I think I lost 6 seconds in my recorded PB to that 
But it’s fine because that run sucks anyway
Nice
Would be a year for me on the 7th
nice
Is the max heat 63 and has it ever been done?
It's 64 and it's been done Routed
Like rng manipulation?
Like straight up every single room was pre-planned out
via RNG manipulation that’s like, getting hit by lightning from two separate sharks with winning lotto tickets in the same afternoon level of not gonna happen normally lol
I don’t quite understand how it works
Routed runs in Hades are Seeded runs with precise RNG Manipulation performed by the runner in order to get ideal rooms/enemies/boons/rewards to get the fastest run (in ingame time) possible. Routing is made possible through the use of mods, but legal runs must be performed without mods.
This video is an overview of how routing works, what a rou...
Hello fellas, im trying to get the plat trophy for Hades, and i only miss the ones related to ||Achilles and Patroclus’|| quest. I maxed friendship with both of them, and keep running into Patroclus every time i can, but still the quest didnt trigger and its been quite a long time, therefore im wondering if im doing something wrong. Does anyone know if its the case?
it took after the epilogue for them to give me the special dialogue that signals their ready to wrap up the quest
it just takes a long time for some reason
they both have a lot of unrelated dialogue that covers up and has priority over that quest for some reason, esp Achilles
Yeah but im far past the epilogue by now, and Achilles has nothing more to say it seems. Maybe i need to exhaust Patroclus’ dialogue, but it just seemed a bit weird to me
@brisk trail Probably close to 2K ish but a lot of them are resets
you are crazy good man
Not really, Heat isn't the best indicator of how good someone is
ok, but 6 minute run is

Yeah, you’re a scrub git gud 
(actually tho, you’re mad good if you can beat 50 heat w icy flare)
Well you could say I'm decent at Beowulf and maybe Rama but that's about it
I think you're quite a little better than decent
I cannot play Beo my brain just refuses its like a dark magic
sad
Try remapping cast to a shoulder button (if you’re on controller)
Shield so far is definitely my least used weapon
Im still trying to max out mirror so i normally go with whatever one is glowing
Stygius and Fists are my favorite as of now
Funny, those are my least favorite two 
In other games i tend to gravitate toward tank classes/characters
So thats prolly why
Aside from terraria
Summoner is by far my favorite in terraria despite being the squishiest
Managed to get mods working on switch
Died to dad lmao

Achilles makes me go oonga bunga
Mods working on switch? Is that even worth the incredible amount of work/risk?
Buyed my switch used and already was with cfw/banned from the online
But the risk doesnt go too high if you know what you are doing







? Explain yourself. 