#h1-discussion

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devout terrace
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its bad without exploding launcher

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the recall šŸ˜”

lone kernel
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Charged skewer gy tho

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Yeah, Athena special required is tough. Dr only works w Athena attack in my experience

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With a crit aspect

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Zag bow dr was awesome but haven’t replicated it on other weapons

balmy scarab
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32 heat officially completed with all weapons babyyy

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I’m so happy

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Also funny how my 32 heat sword clear was a crystal beam run lol

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I don’t think I could’ve won with the sword any other way than a cast build tbh

mint coral
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reject sword, return to cast

balmy scarab
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I might try to get a 50 heat run now but definitely not with all weapons

valid cipher
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How do I unlock the fourth thing on the sword?

mint coral
valid cipher
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They require aspects on other weapons?

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That's annoying.

empty pelican
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yeah, you need Guan Yu first

valid cipher
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Welp, time to lose 20 runs with a new weapon.

empty pelican
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Guan Yu is really easy to get

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you just need to unlock 5 different aspects then keep talking to Achilles

valid cipher
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It said I needed to make it to the end.

empty pelican
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it can be done with literally only 5 titan blood if you get aspect of zag on 5 weapons

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ah

valid cipher
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Which isn't super easy for me yet.

mint coral
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dont zag aspects not count for GY?

valid cipher
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I have dumped like 7 blood into the sword so far.

empty pelican
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they probably don't if you're saying it

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I just guessed they did because they're aspects

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mb

valid cipher
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Well I can get another diamond without heat at least.

mint coral
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im not sure myself, thought the pins mentioned it but no clue lol

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thats why the question mark

valid cipher
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Time for spear grinding I guess.

empty pelican
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I only got the game not too long ago

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I still consider myself new even though I have 70 runs

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I have alot to learn

valid cipher
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At least I have 100HP and three death defies.

empty pelican
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I'm like 95% sure they do work

valid cipher
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We will find out soon enough.

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Only lost 24 out of a 125 health chest, cool.

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Right into a fountain. That's a full heal I didn't need.

empty pelican
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appears I was wrong

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thank you for clarifying

high island
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Sure thing.

lone kernel
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Worth a shot KEKW

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make it easier to get more stuff

valid cipher
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Does "favored and envied" mean I got a lot of boons?

high island
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Nope.

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Though that's a side effect.

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Means you did 2 or more trials.

lone kernel
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How do chaos boon rarity and exclusive access work together

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Is it an extra 15 p chance for legendary?

valid cipher
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Trials?

mint coral
valid cipher
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Oh.

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Those are either super easy or super hard for me.

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I don't know what all of the gods do yet.

charred hemlock
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I was on Heat 18 and had the -life curse of Chaos still active when I decided to tackle charon. I was tidal dashing and it was doing baby damage to him zaglol

valid cipher
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Got to love that the first phase is easy then the next one just murderers you.

(I have only attempted the fight once)

charred hemlock
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i won the fight and luckily got 2 more death defies

valid cipher
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That's what you get for winning?

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The record scratch is pretty funny though.

charred hemlock
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no what u get for winning is a 30% discount

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i got death defies from a charon bowl and chaos

valid cipher
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Forever?

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I got three from the depressed dude one run.

charred hemlock
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for the current run yes

valid cipher
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Darn.

mint coral
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Chaos gives an extra DD with their legendary

valid cipher
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That's not super great for how hard the fight seems, but hey it's something once you have the fight down.

mint coral
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charon/patty refill a lost DD

gray apex
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Or Athena

valid cipher
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A bunch of things can do it.

charred hemlock
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even demeter refills i think

gray apex
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No

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Demeter makes healing stronger

bitter rover
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a moment of silent for my run

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died in the hands of tiny vermin

mint coral
charred hemlock
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theres impervious for athena then who is death defies heal you more bisThink

valid cipher
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King vermin sucks.

bitter rover
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tiny vermin is worse

charred hemlock
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King Vermin šŸ‘€

valid cipher
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That's the small rat right?

charred hemlock
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i only encountered tiny

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unless hes that miniboss sometimes

valid cipher
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I had the misfortune of encountering that boss.

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I'm guessing it's a "you go through all the tunnels" thing?

mint coral
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random chance of being there when you go to the mini boss tunnels

devout terrace
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1/8 of seeing tony vermin

charred hemlock
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also high heat golden asterius and thesus is pain D:

valid cipher
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I had to do all of the tunnels a few runs ago.

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Got the rat boss.

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Didn't kill me at least.

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Thank you cursed slash.

feral belfry
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So I have about 5 NPCs with a heart lock. Does everyone basically just require time, speaking to them as much as possible and RNG? Or are there NPCs that require specific actions be taken?

valid cipher
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Bouldy requires you to talk to dude enough.

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Other ones, no idea.

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:-P

bitter oriole
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yup you just gotta keep playing. eventually you are able to start offering bouldy nectar too...

valid cipher
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Yeah, I got to that point.

charred hemlock
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i have nyx and ares talking together

valid cipher
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Which one is Ares?

charred hemlock
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doom guy

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red trident

valid cipher
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Huh.

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I didn't know that the gods visited.

charred hemlock
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thats something for you to figure out eventually šŸ™‚

valid cipher
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Or look it up.

short swift
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any suggestions for 10 heat arthur?

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pacts wise

gray apex
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UC EM2 TD2 maybe

fierce willow
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question are they making a new game ?

gray apex
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UC TD BP1 MM EM2 are all fairly tolerable

lone kernel
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And then if they go early access again, expect another 1.0 launch in idk 2024-25?

devout terrace
feral belfry
merry bane
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i hate having low damage

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im currently 1 hp with no defiances left in the hades fight on his first revive

feral belfry
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Do you have cursed slash on Arthur

copper bobcat
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Wait if I beat hades with 1 heat do I not get diamonds/ambrosia etc with 2? On other boss clears

feral belfry
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you should unless you've beat it at 1 heat before

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you can earn everything once per heat level

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per weapon

lone kernel
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Zeus and Beowulf gud

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Chaos kinda sus

feral belfry
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chaos shield really needs to be maxed to be good

devout terrace
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Its just weak

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the trap is actually using the special

feral belfry
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Zeus and beo are DPS of the shield

devout terrace
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I did 56 heat chaos by just using charged shot+aphrodite attack

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if you dont get like splitting bolt on your zeus special it feels like no damage

merry bane
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nah

copper bobcat
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How do you deal with Hades pots

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Also rip I keep getting rekt by the sweeping slashes

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Any tips for those

lone kernel
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he signals when hes about to spin

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and you if you dash at the right time

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it'll whiff

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note that if you dash strike instead, you lose the invincibility frames

copper bobcat
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I see

chrome wharf
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It depends on the room, but the icon has a sort of countdown timer on it to show how long you have left

static furnace
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do multipliers stack additively or multiplicatively

karmic pond
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Unless my memory is really awful and I pulled that out of nowhere

mint coral
static furnace
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ok thx

copper bobcat
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Oof Hades is my biggest stumbling block right now

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I wanted to try to get Battle to use on Hades and fed 5 titan blood to fulfill the req for Skelly…didn’t realize I needed to take down Hades 6 more times first

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Don’t have aspect upgrades as I used them all on getting the aspect of Z

versed mason
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interesting actually, cause a lot of peoples first clears were with shield

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merciful end gaming B)

bleak karma
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now i am still kinda abusing it with the aspect of beowulf

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yooo merciful end

versed mason
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its fine if it doesnt suit your personal playstyle, but it is really good and the hidden aspect is nuts

bleak karma
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only ever tried merciful end on fist but i know its good

feral belfry
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It's the best

versed mason
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i had it on a zeus shield, doom on special, athena on attack, literally boss melter

bleak karma
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what zeus shield does?

versed mason
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like a blade rift for your special, but better

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you can control it really good

bleak karma
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huh

versed mason
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so constantly putting doom on a boss by floating your shield on them and spamming attack would melt

bleak karma
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might try that soon cus i like shield

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bored of playing beowulf i think

versed mason
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you throw it out and it like spins and hovers and does damage in aoe and you can still attack

bleak karma
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and chaos

versed mason
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understandable

feral belfry
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How many attempts

versed mason
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zeus is fun

bleak karma
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hated the shield special

feral belfry
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Nah pretty normal

bleak karma
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normal i think

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hades is easy once u get the attack pattern

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not if u put on forced overtime tho

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or extreme measures 4

versed mason
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FO2 hades is fear

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i havent tried em4 yet

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youll see

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just keep playin

bleak karma
real wadi
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Apart from tight deadline, what are easy 1 heat conditions?

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No i already have em3

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But i need one more

versed mason
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do like

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hl1 or somethin

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just dont get hit

real wadi
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Ok

versed mason
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or jury summons, i usually dont really struggle with that

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mm is fine too

bitter rover
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me at a normal run: fighting hades at 21 min mark
me when i have tight deadline 2 on: the clock ticks with theseus

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like

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why

versed mason
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me never planning to play hades on controller

raven mica
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hey guys just had a quick question- is hades done updating for the forseeable future or are we still in a spot where we'll continue receiving updates?

spice hearth
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Seems to be pretty much done updating

copper bobcat
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is ambrosia useful if I have the battle companion?

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i feel like i wanna prioritize getting as many titan bloods for guan yu etc

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i also need to figure out how to beat hades consistently rip

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is the boon roll worth? especially for getting some near must-haves like athena's shield

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i have mine set to the chamber roll

spice hearth
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Ambrosia is useful for upgrading the companions and progressing relationships with characters

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Boon Roll is pretty much the go-to over the chamber roll

bitter rover
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wow

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em3 is hard

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but the fact that theseus is even more smug is worth it alone

valid cipher
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Second run in a row that got to the end.

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Didn't win twice though.

valid cipher
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I do like Hermes acknowledging the timer.

faint burrow
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wonder if there is ever gonna be an axe

valid cipher
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I just found stupid cheese.

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Support Fire + That thing that makes you cast really fast + casting into a wall

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It's not very good, but still.

valid cipher
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You don't have to deal damage with the casts to fire arrows.

twin thistle
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yeah i know

valid cipher
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So unlimited rang (far as I can tell) seeking damage.

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Not good cheese, but cheese.

twin thistle
faint burrow
valid cipher
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But no cooldown or going to get it.

chrome wharf
twin thistle
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prolly

chrome wharf
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lmao the description: as we all know, Artemis' Aid is a form of Support Fire

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(the joke being that the title says Support Fire only)

faint burrow
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i used to hate artemis call

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kinda like now

chrome wharf
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It's decent

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Combos well with Billowing Strength, Second Wind etc

valid cipher
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Last area with 225HP.

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Totally losing because of no death defies.

faint burrow
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i had it with fast/accurate +6 rd daedelus upgrade and +40% GG taking damage

chrome wharf
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Also something something call I-frames

faint burrow
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i know iframes from BDO lmao

faint burrow
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whats your favorite character and why is it dusa

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dusa ā¤ļø

lone kernel
valid cipher
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Does the final boss really get stronger every time you face them or am I just getting bad cycles with lots of big painful attacks?

feral belfry
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Doesn't get harder unless you add heat that would effect it

faint burrow
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same boss

valid cipher
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They used to not spawn as many enemies with stupid amounts of armor before, guess I was getting lucky.

feral belfry
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Yeah it's random

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Enemy quantity depends on type

lone kernel
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Yeah, but you’ll get better at the game

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I think my first clear at 45 and second at like 53 or so

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End credits at around 70

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Keep fighting

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And get max death defiances and dark foresight on mirror

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Gods pride is a waste

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Foresight is too good

valid cipher
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That feeling when you're at a point where you need to make tuns harder or use weapons you never use to beat the final boss to unlock more stuff.

feral belfry
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I think I did like 3-4 clears with the bow to get enough blood for a new weapon that had a good aspect

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Then worked through all of them

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I tried to max 1 aspect at a time per weapon

valid cipher
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I'm two clears into the sword.

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Sounds like I need to collect a decent amount more blood to unlock the last sword aspect.

nocturne mirage
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when you haven't played in half a year and have to relearn everything

feral belfry
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Last sword aspect is meh

valid cipher
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Might be meh but it's an unlockable.

bitter rover
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i never until now noticed the funny poses skelly does when you hit him

brisk trail
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is there a way to get more dashes without relying on hermes?

bitter rover
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the mirror

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and gilgamesh

brisk trail
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how do i get the gilgamesh?

bitter rover
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other than that hermes appears every round so

brisk trail
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I've been wanting to try a dash only build ;-;

bitter rover
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it's a hidden aspect

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you need to wait for asterius to talk about it

chrome wharf
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you get the Guan Yu, then spend blood in the fists and go fight the bull man with it

bitter rover
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it's the only one I'm missing funny enough

brisk trail
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uhhh i cant post a picture here..

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but is it the golden place on the keepsakes?

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where gilgamesh would appear?

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oh wait nvm,

valid cipher
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Huh.

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I have one of the triggers.

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Exclusive Access sounds fun.

bitter rover
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also got hunting blades, splitting headache and mirage shot all in asphodel bouldy

brisk trail
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ik i just realized ;-;
I don't really use the fists so idk what it was b4.

feral belfry
# valid cipher Might be meh but it's an unlockable.

Yeah but you're going to want to start clearing with new weapons to get more blood, it's probably better to get one good aspect in each weapon rather than spending blood on all sword aspects early. Just my advice anyway

ancient path
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Any tips on getting ||Achilles and Patroclus to get their act together? Lmao I've had them both at locked hearts for agesss. I have all the other Cthonic Companions, I'm post game but no epilogue yet, but nothing 😭 They actually started giving me non-dialogue recently? Just one line no nothing lines? Like... My dudes. I KNOW we have something to talk about here lol||

bitter rover
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have you done the sisyphus questline

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i think you require both sisyphus and orpheus finished first

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at one point achilles will comment on that and then the story will keep going hopefully

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the Orpheus storyline is probably the only one required

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now that i remember

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man i wish there was a heat reset button or that it saved the heat settings you have for one weapon

empty pelican
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same

ancient path
copper bobcat
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Tips on fighting Hades with Arthur Aspect?

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Only lv 3

quartz tendon
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I just throw special attack to have the damage reduction and spam regular attack with smoldering air Zeus call Aphrodite attack

little dragon
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try to stay behind him

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the backstab damage adds up a ton

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if you break pots do it with the long range 3rd swing or cast not the first one

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lay down the special at long range to protect against the skulls

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you can also hide behind pillars and lead in the 3rd swing as he walks around to get you

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if youre not sure about how big an opening is, dont go past the 2nd swing

empty pelican
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second ever attempt on 32 heat, just beat Theseus and Asterius

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moving onto styx

copper bobcat
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Bruh guan Yu sucks at lv 2

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Needing a level 5 and a Daedalus upgrade to become decent is actually kinda sad

empty pelican
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ok 32 heat Hades didn't go very well

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i have em4 but didn't even beat the 2nd phase

brisk trail
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em4 hard

empty pelican
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I agree

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I'm going to take away em4 and try something else

gray apex
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Yea it can punish you very easily

empty pelican
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I replaced bf2 with bf, took em3 instead of em4, added cf2 and some more hard labor to make up for lost heat

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time to try again ig

last veldt
last veldt
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And dash strikes are great on Arthur.

last veldt
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Weirdest thing just happened. I'm working or a fresh file and have definitely got out once with rail (it was yesterday) so I aimed for a quick farming run to get more darkness for the mirror. Picked rail again (Hestia both times) at zero heat, but I'm getting Titan blood rather than darkness for Meg. And the progression map shows I don't have bosses cleared!?

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This is the legendary fishing run, I wonder if that affects anything?!

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What's annoying is I have 3 darkness boosting boons on the run and wanted to farm a couple of thousand for the mirror.

brisk trail
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Oh here hades

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I beat him for the first time :D

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I had 3 death defied and lucky tooth

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Didn't need them

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I think the 250hp I had was enough

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Close call tho I was on 2hp

last veldt
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Yeah that happened to me first time I got out. When it clicks, it clicks.

brisk trail
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@last veldt

gray apex
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Swordy

brisk trail
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What

gray apex
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It’s a sword aspect

brisk trail
brisk trail
gray apex
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Maybe Rama or Beo

brisk trail
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What

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Aren't there like 6 weapons?

gray apex
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24

brisk trail
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What

gray apex
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6 base weapons and each weapon has 4 aspects

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You might not have them yet

brisk trail
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Yes 4 aspects

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I got a bit of titan blood

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What's ur fav base weapon then

gray apex
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Tough to answer since I barely played with base weapons before I unlocked aspects

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Maybe Shield or Bow

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But both are hammer reliant to an extent

brisk trail
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Shield is my fav

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Doom best effect

upbeat lodge
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I need to grind bounties fast. Any advice?

gray apex
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Go fast bouldy

upbeat lodge
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Ofc

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Fo2 and em2 always on

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As well as td2

gray apex
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And how fast are you averaging

upbeat lodge
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Around 20 minutes

gray apex
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Have you checked the speedrunning basics vid

upbeat lodge
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Yes

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I've read the text version as well

gray apex
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Have you trued recording your runs and checking where you’re wasting time

gray apex
upbeat lodge
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Ik where I'm wasting time. Going between enemies and stuff

upbeat lodge
brisk trail
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But hey,not so bad for my first time

gray apex
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Then it might just be about polishing your play and getting enough juice for bosses

brisk trail
upbeat lodge
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Yeah, probably. Also I need a fun spear

brisk trail
gray apex
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Achilles fun

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All spears are hammer reliant sadly

brisk trail
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Rip

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I like the shield because it does it's job

upbeat lodge
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What does raging rush classify as

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Attack or special

gray apex
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Attack or Cast

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For the next 4

upbeat lodge
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The rush towards spear attack i meant

gray apex
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It gives you the raging bonus damage for your next 4 attacks or casts

brisk trail
upbeat lodge
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I was just wondering if you can apply status effects with it

brisk trail
gray apex
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Raging Rush buffs you and doesn’t apply to enemies how would it be a status curse

brisk trail
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I think they mean like the actual attack thats throw special > rush

gray apex
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The rush cant apply a curse if I’m not mistaken

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The Special Throw can

last veldt
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Question: If your first clear on a weapon is with non zero heat, and your second is with no heat, should you get Titan blood for the second run? I would have thought not, but I definitely just did.

low prism
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I’ve been completely stuck with the Hydra. Does anyone have any tips on how I can beat them?

last veldt
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Have you tried not getting hit? /Hypnos

low prism
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You little-

last veldt
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Seriously though, what weapon?

low prism
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nO

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I HaVe nOt tRIed tHAt

last veldt
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I assume it's the second multi head phase that's causing trouble

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The solo head phases are easy enough to learn and there are things to hide behind and plenty of space to dodge things.

low prism
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It’s mainly my health that I think is my problem

last veldt
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The first 3 head phase always has two on one side and one at the other, so take out the solo head first.

low prism
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I need more death defiant

last veldt
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How many do you have?

low prism
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2 +1 from skelly

last veldt
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You can learn the patterns for the solo bits and reliably take no damage there

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The main head is very predictable

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In phase 1 you can hit it fairly easily and any big moves are telegraphed early.

low prism
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I’m about to get 3 + 1

last veldt
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In phase 2 it will ALWAYS punish you if you hit it after it attacks, so bait it out and then punish it back.

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Phase 3 is like 2, but it slams more times and his some big spam attacks.

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So once you can reliably take basically no damage on the solo head phases, you just gotta burn down the multi head phases as fast as possible

low prism
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Right…

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Okay

gray apex
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Melee weapons have a tougher time

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But you just have to learn the patterns and practice

last veldt
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Multi head phase is where you'll take some damage. Concentrate or getting a couple of heads down that are next to each other to buy yourself some space, but don't stand still. Be prepared to dodge out and do some work on a different had for a bit.

low prism
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ALSO what is the best weapon to use?

last veldt
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No best weapon, only favourites

low prism
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Really not one is better than the other?

last veldt
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I like the last 3 best; bow, fist and rail

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Depends on play style

low prism
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I suck at the bow-

last veldt
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I find bow comfy and easy for safe wins.

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I dislike shield except for one aspect

low prism
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I like the fist and spear

gray apex
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They’re all good at your stage of the game, just play the one you’re most comfortable with, if I tell you that shield is good but you have no knowledge on how to build it nor how to play you’ll likely end up performing much worse than with other weapons

last veldt
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If you have aspects unlocked, Talos fists are good for beginners

low prism
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šŸ‘€ aspects?

last veldt
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Let's you control spacing

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Have you unlocked all weapons?

low prism
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I did but my game didn’t save and now I need to unlock the guns :/

last veldt
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Ah. Do that and do one more run.

mint coral
low prism
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My last question is the most important

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Are you ready?

last veldt
gray apex
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No

low prism
last veldt
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We'll never be ready

low prism
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It’s a tough question I know

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Take your time

last veldt
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Than or Meg?

low prism
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Thanatos

last veldt
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Why not ||both||?

low prism
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Thanatos was the whole reason I bought this game

devout terrace
low prism
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It’s actually the reason I got into Greek mythology

rapid forum
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Thanatos?

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huh

copper bobcat
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So uh how is guan yu

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Does it get better at level 5

last veldt
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He's fine.

copper bobcat
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The aspect

rapid forum
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it's safer at level 5

last veldt
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With the right hammers it's very good

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But it's situational

copper bobcat
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That’s an oof

rapid forum
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charged skewer with it is fun

last veldt
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Fast and big spin is easy mode

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Stick Zeus on that baby

copper bobcat
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It seems to need some really specific hammers to function properly which you might not get during the run rip

last veldt
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Yeah, you can get unlucky.

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That's kinda the trade off with the hidden aspects

copper bobcat
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Yeah needing level 5 and specific hammers to function on par with level 1 aspects is not it lol

last veldt
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They're all situational.

copper bobcat
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I feel like Arthur is just good

last veldt
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Arthur is very solid

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True

copper bobcat
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Are there any other good spear aspects

last veldt
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Achilles for cast builds

copper bobcat
#

What about dash striking builds

copper bobcat
#

Lol I feel like that puts spear under all the other weps

#

Other weapons can and will survive without the hammers, quite well

mint coral
#

Achilles still can be done with cast builds at least

empty pelican
#

tooth or acorn for higher heat? I'm trying 32 heat and died to Hades phase 2 last run

mint coral
#

Acorn is mostly used

empty pelican
#

alright

last veldt
#

Acorn every time

upbeat lodge
#

Is hades spear good

last veldt
#

Can be

#

It's fine but I don't favour the spear much other than Achilles

#

Hades spear with fast "spin" is nicer

#

Otherwise it's just a pain to be stopping to wind up the sweep

#

I don't like stopping...

devout terrace
#

Its basically better zag spear

#

And that's not something to boast about

upbeat lodge
#

i need alot of blood, but dont want to sell bounties anymore

#

so ima get bounties and practice speedrunning at the same time

empty pelican
#

does the Hydralite Gold from Patroclus still work if I have lc4

brisk trail
#

no

lone kernel
gray apex
#

I take Jerky if I'm gaming too hard

empty pelican
gray apex
empty pelican
#

unless it gives you another like athena

lone kernel
#

It gives you net 80 percent health when u die from stubborn

gray apex
#

Touch of Styx Dark makes it so your SD heals 50% more

empty pelican
#

wait wtf is touch of styx dark

#

ah

lone kernel
#

The top option from patty

#

When running stubborn

empty pelican
#

I didn't know it changes

#

damn

gray apex
#

Yea it changes

lone kernel
#

Now you do

#

šŸ™‚

#

I find patty or cheeky Athena extra defiance nearly required on sweaty runs

gray apex
#

Depends how sweaty

lone kernel
#

But cheeky bonus defiance and patty are basically how you can facetank dad lol

#

tho lc4 in general makes you git gud at bosses

gray apex
#

I identify as a casual gamer

high island
#

Casual 50 Heat.

gray apex
#

Indeed

nocturne ginkgo
#

...just wanted to say that Winter Harvest is scary

#

very

very scary

upbeat lodge
#

What's winter harvest

gray apex
#

Demeter Legendary

mint coral
devout terrace
upbeat lodge
#

Ah

nocturne ginkgo
#

hey uh regarding nyx's request for the eldest sigil thingy...i cant seem to find it listed on the house contractor's stuff, nor can i find the prompt in the admin chamber to send the thing over to the contractor

#

is the eldest sigil the big red portal?

upbeat lodge
#

I think ur in the wrong channel

nocturne ginkgo
#

i see.....alright, thanks

lone kernel
#

Based

bitter rover
#

hmmm which weapon should i upgrade next

#

probably eris

earnest vapor
#

first W

#

im actually ecstatic

#

and it was with a dionysus/aphrodite build

gray apex
#

Nice

lone kernel
#

I dunno I just sat there and mashed it for an hour during a compliance training for work, didn’t take too many brain cells to say I won’t steal company money and mash L simultaneously

devout terrace
#

lmao

lone kernel
#

Haven’t stolen any company money but I shred on the lyre

#

I might have expensed a gaming computer for work, but it was in budget PES_SadShrug

#

Also an option. I went the way I did because I had to be on zoom watching a power point stating the obvious with video on lol

#

Yeah I was doing it that way play a round or two then go, but then that meeting was just an opportunity to grind it and not feel like I was wasting my free time lol

lone kernel
#

I WISH

untold escarp
#

im so confused

#

i was playing hades;

#

and started a run

#

heat 16, first boon posideon

#

i was only offered one choice, which is his legendary boon for fishing

#

it requires 2 other boons? and conch?

high island
#

That's a scripted event. Only happens once.

untold escarp
#

gotcha

#

for friendship with posideon?

high island
#

Nah, just something that happens after you get the Rod of Fishing.

untold escarp
#

odd

#

ive had the rod for a long time

last veldt
#

I didn't know it was a one off

#

Shame

devout terrace
#

I mean you can get the legendary again

#

but not from chamber 1

high island
untold escarp
#

yeah!

#

well

#

not a half bad boon

#

im trying to get all the legendaries but

#

uuu its a lot

void vigil
#

some of them i find easier than others to get, i see aphrodite's pretty often just by playing and picking her boons. but i guess its all just luck and rng

untold escarp
#

mhm!

#

i really want to 100% the game long term

#

but

#

of course thats going to take ages

#

esp with the resource director

void vigil
#

its the only thing i have left, though i havent played the game in a while pensiveclown

full nexus
#

If you take that as completion yeah

untold escarp
#

i mean its part of fated list

#

so!

void vigil
#

its not

untold escarp
#

oh! sorry sorry thought you meant the boons

#

i do want resource director, even though its gonna be a real pain

void vigil
#

oh, i thought you meant the resource director was part of the fated list, lol. yeah the boons are

full nexus
#

Depends if you wanna grind heat or speedruns

devout terrace
#

based

full nexus
#

Farming darkness is boring in itself

devout terrace
full nexus
#

Lmao

void vigil
#

the poseidon keepsake grinding

#

help me

void vigil
#

literally have done so many runs and i am just about halfway there darkness wise. it is so much of it

#

i kinda wish heat still boosted darkness when it didnt give bounties bouldy

narrow hemlock
void vigil
#

omg hes so cute 😭

brisk trail
#

Explosive shot twin shot is so slow but so strong

#

its pretty fun

#

somehow

lone kernel
#

On Rama it’s sus but so fun lol

brisk trail
#

i used it on chiron and it worked pretty well

#

but thats probably cuz i got doom special deflect attack and athena and ares's duo boon

#

and deflect dash lol

nocturne ginkgo
#

My hades pro controller came in today

#

it looks so good

feral belfry
#

man I can got get blizzard shot to proc

copper bobcat
#

TIL if you die the same frame as the boss the boss goes down first and ur damage doesn’t register

#

Just had that on a nasty ass Demeter Thesus

bitter rover
#

three money rooms in a row 🄓

#

at least i won't need hypnos trinket

strange marsh
#

im SO excited for that figure I WANNA SEE MY LITTLE BOY (HERE HE COMES)

lone kernel
last veldt
#

Yeah. Taking 8 room rolls and saving them for Styx mostly let's you do boonless reliably ... mostly.

#

I've saved a boonless run with a purging pool in the tunnels just before picking up a non boon at the sack.

twin thistle
#

just take three rerolls into styx and somehow roll all the doors into non boons squirtyay

last veldt
#

Also not picking up hammers mean it will try and force one on you in Styx.

#

But if you get a 5 sack it can be rough.
If you run out of rolls, take boons first and hope for a purging well before the sack.

#

Hestia rail.

#

Maxed.

#

Shackle obvs.

#

Ahh

gray apex
#

Zag bow

mint coral
#

You can always play it as zag bow ig

#

Hera doesnt upgrade cast dmg

#

Thats what we call a bad zag bow

#

I dont like shackle cast enough tbh, idk wht

formal quarry
bitter rover
#

an aspect

gray apex
#

Not really for boonless

raw herald
#

Getting crush shot and 1 Pom will greatly outdamage shackle

#

And you don’t need to stop at 1 Pom

#

Zag bow is great for shackle runs because it has good attack hammers and innate crit

gray apex
#

Yea that one on the other hand… bouldy

signal aspen
#

15% increased attack and movement speed is nothing

twin thistle
#

also since youre spamming dash usually with sword it really doesnt do much

chrome wharf
#

Wdym it's great with RD /s

balmy scarab
#

I’ve finally maxed out all the weapon aspects

#

It took me so long

#

Nemesis sword is very good

copper bobcat
#

Cursed slash or double edge for arthur

#

I got a Daedalus with both

mint coral
#

Whats the third one

#

Probably Dedge tho

copper bobcat
#

Breaching slash

#

All insanely good on Arthur

mint coral
#

Arthur is so slow to recover hp tho

copper bobcat
#

Actually bruh moment

mint coral
#

For easier dash strike you can hold attack button and just dash

copper bobcat
#

It’s max arthur with Aphrodite

mint coral
#

Arthur so tanky you really dont need that 2 hp x slow swing

copper bobcat
#

I’m bad and am down two revives already so ehh

balmy scarab
#

I’d take breaching

#

You don’t attack fast with Arthur so not much benefit from cursed slash

#

And you’re not dash striking a lot with Arthur

#

I think they already decided lol

copper bobcat
#

Yeah

#

Went with cursed

#

This is the second time I’ve ever gotten cursed so I wanted to use it

balmy scarab
#

Bruh

copper bobcat
#

Oh

#

I remember what I lost two revives to

#

I fought Charon before 1st boss

balmy scarab
#

That less health is gonna kill you

copper bobcat
#

I’ll keep y’all posted

#

Wanted to woth max arthur ricardo

balmy scarab
#

The only time I used cursed slash is a meme build with zag sword, flurry slash, and bonus attack speed from Hermes

#

Surprisingly op but probably not good for higher heats

copper bobcat
#

I’m using this mostly to farm the purple gem thing

#

Yeah no I’m at 1 heat

#

Lol

#

If you thought this was high heat then yeah

#

Yes

balmy scarab
#

Nah I didn’t I just meant the build I use is really fun and somewhat op but only for lower heats

chrome wharf
#

Dash through it, or get behind him

balmy scarab
#

He does hit hard

copper bobcat
#

TFW I just got the ending and still don’t remember the name

#

He hits so hard even with arthur

balmy scarab
#

I haven’t really fought Charon much but I remember initially struggling with him

copper bobcat
#

I tried to face tank

#

Oops

chrome wharf
#

me neither dusa

copper bobcat
#

In any case I get 20% off for the rest of the run

chrome wharf
#

can't help you there

#

Arthur was my first Charon win lol

copper bobcat
#

I be doing all the correct stuff this run /s

#

My first Charon win was also pre 1st

chrome wharf
#

In Tartarus no less

balmy scarab
#

I think I used Chiron for my first Charon win

copper bobcat
#

Yeah same

#

I think I used rail?

balmy scarab
#

Funny cause similar name

chrome wharf
#

I had a win with Hera too. Triple Phalanx

copper bobcat
#

Got the revive refresh

#

Patroclus in my scuffed arthur run

mint coral
#

Grabbed serrsted point and a "enemy drops bomb on death" curse and lost a DD really quick bouldy

copper bobcat
#

F

balmy scarab
#

Facts

twin thistle
#

kinda a bruh moment when youre doing 50 heat em4 and no patty

copper bobcat
#

He was two hits away from dying when I finally went down :/ also decided not to bring an extra

lone kernel
#

Some adult themes šŸ˜‚

copper bobcat
#

Didn’t use a single revive in the next run where I properly built Arthur

#

Based

gray shoal
vital hamlet
#

hey i am about to fight the 3rd boss of the game. This is not my first try but i was wondering, should i go for the human or the bull first (i am sorry idk the names). In my last 2 tries i went for the bull and it didn't end well

balmy scarab
#

The Minotaur

vital hamlet
#

ok ty

balmy scarab
#

Just make sure you pay attention to Theseus’s spear throws

#

And stay far from him so he doesn’t do the spin

#

You can hide behind the pillars

vital hamlet
#

yeah i didnt last time šŸ˜†

balmy scarab
#

Theseus is annoying to focus on first because in his second phase he summons help from a god so you’re having to deal with that plus Asterius

vital hamlet
#

i see

balmy scarab
#

Good luck they’re definitely tough at first

vital hamlet
chrome wharf
#

I've thought of this before - if you have a switch, detach the controller and flip the screen over

lone kernel
finite lodge
#

I would hate that.

bitter rover
#

hades but you have to press interact to retrieve your casts

chrome wharf
#

Hades but if you run Infernal soul and don't pick up your casts before you leave a room, you lose them for the run

#

same for throwable spears, you have to do the remaining run with bare fists

bitter rover
#

hades but you never find mom shadegrief

polar marsh
#

Imagine a secret ending never escaping

high island
#

Well, never escaping is basically the ending.

copper bobcat
#

Thesus actually wack change my mind

#

Also is there a reason why Guan Yu is just had

#

I heard it got nerfed? Right now it feels like a slow spear with above average damage with a massive drawback

#

The closest comparison is Arthur and stat and utility wise it is not even close

high island
#

The "nerf" was still during development. From 50 to 45 base damage for the Special. Didn't really affect it too much.

#

Guan Yu is still one of the best aspects to no-hit the game with.

#

Excalibur is certainly not.

bleak karma
#

man i wish hades spear was good

#

maybe this is why hades ditched it for the one he has now

brisk trail
#

how is aspect of hades worse than aspect of achilles lol

#

increases all dmg, increases spin range

#

quick spin makes it easier to use but the extra dmg doesnt apply to the spin

#

but thats like its only downside

bleak karma
#

oh

#

heard people say its bad

copper bobcat
#

And for 99.9% of the population that doesn’t it feels kinda clunky

#

Died at 15% hp P2 Hades pain

brisk trail
#

How would guan yu be good for no hitting if its only use is vamp

#

And u need to get hit for vamp to be useful

copper bobcat
#

^

#

Also does giving Megara Ambrosia help in any way

#

Like finishing a quest line etc

#

Right now I don’t see much of a point to use Ambrosia

brisk trail
#

Chiron might be the best for no hitting

#

Since its a bow and is pretty safe

#

And has high dmg on top of that with a good build

rapid forum
#

I've tried butterfly with chiron and hestia

#

hestia is better

#

cause the animation commitment is lower by a slight bit

#

and you can cancel reload animation by dashing

rapid forum
high island
high island
high island
#

And the first 40 Heat clear was done with Guan Yu. The Special was toned down a bit since, and a lot of aspects were brought up to its level. But it's still a pretty good aspect.

#

You need to enjoy a glass cannon playstyle, which isn't everyone's thing, naturally.

chrome wharf
#

when you say "dash strike x2" is there a particular way to angle them

#

Like 2 short forward strikes vs 1 forward + 1 sideways or something

high island
#

I just aim in the general direction of enemies, pretty much? I dunno, I don't think about it lol.

#

Into a group of enemies.

#

I think you just get better at it with practice. It's not something you get better at by analyzing it, you just gotta play a lot.

#

But I usually try to do the two Dash-Strikes as quickly as possible after the Special without giving up precision.

#

Whiffs cost time.

chrome wharf
#

ok thanks that's what I kinda do too

#

while going "aaaaaaa"

high island
#

And then with practice you just get better at doing it fast without whiffing.

copper bobcat
#

Hm it seems like I was playing Guan Yu mostly correctly, it fits my playstyle (being up in the opponents face and letting loose specials + dash strikes); I almost beat Hades but got cucked because of Theusus and not bringing an extra revive to Hades

#

I'll try another Guan Yu run tomorrow

dusk turtle
#

I tried a Guan Yu run today

lapis shore
#

Hey can chaos gates spawn in asphodel

dusk turtle
#

I beat it but I lost all my defiances to Theseus and Asterius lol

copper bobcat
copper bobcat
#

So annoying that there isn't a Patroclus-level refresh afterwards

lapis shore
#

I've learned to play around theseus now

copper bobcat
#

Asterius is fine, Theseus is just monke

lapis shore
#

First run of the day and beat dad

copper bobcat
#

gz

#

im getting better at Hades

#

I finally got max affinity with Hades so I can finally use Battie against him Hehe

dusk turtle
#

tbh if I don't see Athena in Tartarus

#

I always pick up Athena boon for Asphodel

copper bobcat
#

Deleting 1/4 of his HP in one go is pretty pog

dusk turtle
#

Divine Dash is my crutch

lapis shore
copper bobcat
#

My strat before I started using other Calls was waiting for Aphro's max call and then blasting him

#

If I had Smoldering Mist I tried to level Aphro's call as high as possible to max stun time

lapis shore
#

I had ares call when I just beat dad

versed mason
#

try aiming for a smair build if you want chunking action

copper bobcat
#

smair?

#

smouldering air?

calm zenith
#

Smouldering air

copper bobcat
#

With what call

#

I'm assuming Zeus?

calm zenith
#

With guan yu you also kinda want to use the spin

#

To compensate for hp

#

You dont need to lean into spin hammers

#

But I would recommend quick spin

versed mason
#

any call really, some are better than other in terms of damage/safety, like ares tends to be worse cause it can make you get hit a lot

calm zenith
#

And learning how to time it

reef zodiac
#

I almost never use spin with Guan Yu

#

Only with quick spin

calm zenith
#

You dont need to. It just might help if you are dying with it

lapis shore
#

Uh is mirage shot any good

reef zodiac
#

I just think it’s very very slow and unsafe

lapis shore
#

With a non cast build lol

calm zenith
#

Learning to spin right

#

No

#

It's a little dps

high island
reef zodiac
calm zenith
#

Yeah

calm zenith
#

If you dont make mistakes then GY is only upsides

#

Strong all around

#

Can be pretty agile even

copper bobcat
#

Yeah I feel like if I went for a pure ranged playthrough then GY would be fine

reef zodiac
calm zenith
#

They didnt necessarily need the life drain but I do like it

#

Feels different

#

It can be weaker. It isnt necessarily always weaker

#

Achilles is also stronger than basically everything at its best

copper bobcat
#

Also is Ambrosia useful?

#

like at all

calm zenith
#

Ambrosia is nectar+

copper bobcat
#

I have a fully leveled Battie

calm zenith
#

For advanced relationships

#

And those

copper bobcat
#

right but do those relations give me anything

calm zenith
#

If you are done with that, no uses

#

They give plot stuff

copper bobcat
#

the questlines right?

calm zenith
#

Achilles can probably do more damage than Beo honestly

copper bobcat
#

ive been using them as fodder for Titan Blood

calm zenith
#

Yeah

#

That's fine

#

You may as well finish those though

copper bobcat
#

cuz all these weps have aspects that are pretty pog

calm zenith
#

Unless you plan to stop playing soon

copper bobcat
#

the plotlines?

reef zodiac
calm zenith
#

Yeah

#

It's been used in near max heat runs though

reef zodiac
#

What has?

calm zenith
#

Achilles

reef zodiac
#

Not really

high island
#

Achilles holds the WR in modded speedruns, at least.

#

It's up there, in any case.

reef zodiac
#

I’m pretty sure Achilles heat wr is below 56 heat

#

But yes, it’s great for speedruns

high island
#

53 Heat.

reef zodiac
#

But I wouldn’t say its DPS is better than Beowulf

#

Yeah, I wouldn’t call that ā€œnear max heatā€

calm zenith
#

I mean wouldn't that be why it's used in speedruns

#

I thought it was like 62 mb

reef zodiac
#

It’s actually pretty bad at high heat

#

It’s the worst spear for high heat

bleak karma
#

hmmm

calm zenith
#

Hmm idk. GY has fine DPS though.

#

Achilles is for specific things

reef zodiac
high island
reef zodiac
#

But yes, Achilles has great damage

#

But I definitely wouldn’t say it’s better than Beo

high island
#

Well, the ability to move quickly matters a lot for DPS in Hades.

reef zodiac
#

Oh yeah I guess that’s a way to look at it

high island
#

Can't do a lot of damage per second if you can't hit anything because enemies are far away.

calm zenith
#

Hunting Blades at least is also really safe

reef zodiac
high island
#

It's why epic Greatest Reflex is one of the top picks in speedruns still.

reef zodiac
#

Ofc

high island
#

Ironically, the best speedruns have relatively low DPS compared to some slower runs because they get so many free rooms, they don't get to do much damage. dusa

reef zodiac
#

Yeah

#

I’m getting back into Hades

high island
reef zodiac
copper bobcat
#

i once had heroic greatest reflex with +2 dashes

#

needless to say i went zoom zoom

devout terrace
#

Heroic greatest reflex is +4 dashes thanthink

lapis shore
#

Just had the most overpowered run ever

#

First time ever using the gun

#

Got a heroic frost flourish with the daedalus rocket special

#

And got some meme beam build where cast drops little crystals with beams, got a boon that makes them auto target lock and every time I cast, 2 crystals emerge instead of 2

#

4th time beating dad on this save

lapis shore
#

Ur virtually untouchable

#

Just read about erebus chambers, don't think im good enough to do those lol

#

Also, how do u unlock the last sword aspect again?

devout terrace
chrome wharf
lapis shore
#

Just beat dad again

#

3 times in one night

lone kernel
bleak karma
#

i lose more to bull and king than dad now

lapis shore
#

I havent lost to theses in a long time

#

Oh I also did it on heat 1 with the poseidon aspect on sword

#

And wow aspect of guan yu seems horrible

bitter rover
#

the broker is asking 2 titan blood for a bottle of ambrosia

#

i think his exchange rate is a little off

paper aurora
#

Will there be an update for progress transfer between ps4 and 5?

static furnace
#

when do i get to call bone hydra lernie?

last veldt
#

Yeah, the broker doesn't always have objectively good deals, but sometimes you just need that extra ambrosia.

last veldt
static furnace
#

do i ever get more fans in elysium or just the one

bleak karma
#

just one despite u beating them everytime u go there

#

blasted asterius simps

static furnace
#

lol

gray apex
#

Lol

bleak karma
#

not getting used to having no swear words in a server

#

but oh well the game gives enough replacements that i can use

static furnace
#

yea

gray apex
#

The bot can help you too bouldy

static furnace
#

why is my doom sometimes doing 250 damage and sometimes 500

#

wth

#

and its the same ability

gray apex
#

Do you have maybe Dire misfortune?

static furnace
#

no

gray apex
#

Are you getting any sort of Global Dmg

static furnace
#

maybe its quake cutter?

#

oh i have battle rage

gray apex
#

Those both apply to the base dmg

#

Not the Doom

static furnace
#

hm

#

it seems to consistenly be when i hit with quake cutter

rapid forum
#

well maybe share your victory screen later, we'll see what cause it

upbeat lodge
#

this may be my dumbest build yet

#

big backstabs arthur

upbeat lodge
#

featuring double edge

static furnace
#

could it have been flying cutter

#

i think its a base damage isnt it

reef zodiac
#

Double edge and shadow slash don’t exactly have great synergy

#

Unless you mean huge backstabs without even without Shadow Slash

rapid forum
static furnace
#

ok

full nexus
#

The latter can wait

reef zodiac
#

Luckily for you, you don’t need room rerolls because fated persuasion is always better bouldy

upbeat lodge
#

boonless runs would like a word

gray apex
#

Meme runs too

upbeat lodge
#

im also thinking of trying authority on dio beo runs bcs mirage is so important bu thatd be a meme run

crimson light
#

I had a dream of unlocking the aspect of Gilgamesh

gray apex
#

More like a nightmare

devout terrace
#

lmao

full nexus
#

Gilnyaamesh UWU

empty pelican
#

I like aspect of rama

#

it's cool

gray apex
#

pog

polar marsh
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Rama bow go pew pew dusa

reef zodiac
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Love Rama

devout terrace
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love speeder bows 34

reef zodiac
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I’m pretty sure there are hammers that add a % but not to base damage

mint coral
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I think they just mean it affects the weapon, not boon

plucky summit
high island
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Well.

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You can like both. dusa

vital hamlet
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hey, i equipped the Pierced Butterfly and wanted to know something about it. If in the first "world" i gain some damage % and in the second world i change my keepsake. Will the % boost go away?

high island
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Yes, you'll lose the bonus damage.

vital hamlet
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aww

last veldt
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Same for the plume.

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Once I discovered that I mostly stopped using them

high island
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Yeah, you just gotta take them from the start to the end or at least from Asphodel to the end to get much out of them.

lone kernel
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just dont get smacked with an oar for 50 health in tartarus KEKW

brisk trail
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is there any way to change mapping for combos cause x+b for the malphon doesnt seem easy to pull off in the middle of a battle

unborn remnant
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you get used to it

feral belfry
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This is old news but I just learned that the original concept of this game was going to have you playing as Theseus

lone kernel
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if you dont get hit em4 is easy

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but good stuff

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yeah, fair, charon is i'd say about as hard as em3

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its a bullet hell that hurts a lot if you mess up lol

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but tart charon if youre feeling reckless, youll likely win the run if you win that fight

brisk trail
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the damage you get from atrophic strike is it permanent or temporary?

unborn remnant
lone kernel
unborn remnant
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is it chaos

lone kernel
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thats how all chaos works