#h1-discussion
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Charged skewer gy tho
Yeah, Athena special required is tough. Dr only works w Athena attack in my experience
With a crit aspect
Zag bow dr was awesome but havenāt replicated it on other weapons
32 heat officially completed with all weapons babyyy
Iām so happy
Also funny how my 32 heat sword clear was a crystal beam run lol
I donāt think I couldāve won with the sword any other way than a cast build tbh
reject sword, return to cast
I might try to get a 50 heat run now but definitely not with all weapons
How do I unlock the fourth thing on the sword?
look at pinned messages in #h1-story-discussion
yeah, you need Guan Yu first
Welp, time to lose 20 runs with a new weapon.
Guan Yu is really easy to get
you just need to unlock 5 different aspects then keep talking to Achilles
It said I needed to make it to the end.
it can be done with literally only 5 titan blood if you get aspect of zag on 5 weapons
ah
Which isn't super easy for me yet.
dont zag aspects not count for GY?
I have dumped like 7 blood into the sword so far.
they probably don't if you're saying it
I just guessed they did because they're aspects
mb
Well I can get another diamond without heat at least.
im not sure myself, thought the pins mentioned it but no clue lol
thats why the question mark
Time for spear grinding I guess.
I only got the game not too long ago
I still consider myself new even though I have 70 runs
I have alot to learn
At least I have 100HP and three death defies.
pins in #h1-story-discussion just say "unlock atleast 5 different aspects", nothing about zag not counting
I'm like 95% sure they do work
We will find out soon enough.
Only lost 24 out of a 125 health chest, cool.
Right into a fountain. That's a full heal I didn't need.
Zag Aspects don't count.
Sure thing.
Does "favored and envied" mean I got a lot of boons?
How do chaos boon rarity and exclusive access work together
Is it an extra 15 p chance for legendary?
Trials?
Those choose 1 god the other gets pissed and tries to kill you rooms
Oh.
Those are either super easy or super hard for me.
I don't know what all of the gods do yet.
I was on Heat 18 and had the -life curse of Chaos still active when I decided to tackle charon. I was tidal dashing and it was doing baby damage to him 
Got to love that the first phase is easy then the next one just murderers you.
(I have only attempted the fight once)
i won the fight and luckily got 2 more death defies
no what u get for winning is a 30% discount
i got death defies from a charon bowl and chaos
for the current run yes
Darn.
Chaos gives an extra DD with their legendary
That's not super great for how hard the fight seems, but hey it's something once you have the fight down.
charon/patty refill a lost DD
Or Athena
A bunch of things can do it.
even demeter refills i think
also pretty sure is 20% not 30%
theres impervious for athena then who is death defies heal you more 
King vermin sucks.
tiny vermin is worse
King Vermin š
That's the small rat right?
I had the misfortune of encountering that boss.
I'm guessing it's a "you go through all the tunnels" thing?
random chance of being there when you go to the mini boss tunnels
1/8 of seeing tony vermin
also high heat golden asterius and thesus is pain D:
I had to do all of the tunnels a few runs ago.
Got the rat boss.
Didn't kill me at least.
Thank you cursed slash.
So I have about 5 NPCs with a heart lock. Does everyone basically just require time, speaking to them as much as possible and RNG? Or are there NPCs that require specific actions be taken?
yup you just gotta keep playing. eventually you are able to start offering bouldy nectar too...
Yeah, I got to that point.
i have nyx and ares talking together
Which one is Ares?
thats something for you to figure out eventually š
Or look it up.
UC EM2 TD2 maybe
question are they making a new game ?
UC TD BP1 MM EM2 are all fairly tolerable
Probably, but donāt expect any news for prob six months minimum
And then if they go early access again, expect another 1.0 launch in idk 2024-25?


i hate having low damage
im currently 1 hp with no defiances left in the hades fight on his first revive

Do you have cursed slash on Arthur
Wait if I beat hades with 1 heat do I not get diamonds/ambrosia etc with 2? On other boss clears
you should unless you've beat it at 1 heat before
you can earn everything once per heat level
per weapon
chaos shield really needs to be maxed to be good
Zeus and beo are DPS of the shield
I did 56 heat chaos by just using charged shot+aphrodite attack
if you dont get like splitting bolt on your zeus special it feels like no damage
Did u beat him!!?!?!
How do you deal with Hades pots
Also rip I keep getting rekt by the sweeping slashes
Any tips for those
watch someone else fight him and focus on watching how hades moves
he signals when hes about to spin
and you if you dash at the right time
it'll whiff
note that if you dash strike instead, you lose the invincibility frames
I see
It depends on the room, but the icon has a sort of countdown timer on it to show how long you have left
do multipliers stack additively or multiplicatively
Random tip but they're considered traps which means that until you learn how to handle them you can potentially negate a lot of damage by taking trap resistance
Unless my memory is really awful and I pulled that out of nowhere
certain things like mirage shot/crit dmg/twin-triple shot is multiplicative but most bonus are additive
ok thx
Oof Hades is my biggest stumbling block right now
I wanted to try to get Battle to use on Hades and fed 5 titan blood to fulfill the req for Skellyā¦didnāt realize I needed to take down Hades 6 more times first
Donāt have aspect upgrades as I used them all on getting the aspect of Z
interesting actually, cause a lot of peoples first clears were with shield
merciful end gaming B)
can confirm, cheesed the game with shield block
now i am still kinda abusing it with the aspect of beowulf

yooo merciful end
its fine if it doesnt suit your personal playstyle, but it is really good and the hidden aspect is nuts
only ever tried merciful end on fist but i know its good
It's the best
i had it on a zeus shield, doom on special, athena on attack, literally boss melter
what zeus shield does?
huh
so constantly putting doom on a boss by floating your shield on them and spamming attack would melt
you throw it out and it like spins and hovers and does damage in aoe and you can still attack
and chaos
understandable
How many attempts
oh wow thats nice
zeus is fun
hated the shield special
Nah pretty normal
normal i think
hades is easy once u get the attack pattern
not if u put on forced overtime tho
or extreme measures 4
hades become a fighting game character and combos the blood and darkness out of you
Apart from tight deadline, what are easy 1 heat conditions?
No i already have em3
But i need one more
Ok
me at a normal run: fighting hades at 21 min mark
me when i have tight deadline 2 on: the clock ticks with theseus
like
why
it works
its so beautiful
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/834839210144956426/919055824503066685/IMG_2260.jpg?width=497&height=663 time to get a pc copy finally
me never planning to play hades on controller
hey guys just had a quick question- is hades done updating for the forseeable future or are we still in a spot where we'll continue receiving updates?
Seems to be pretty much done updating
If you check #hades-patch-notes, they explained it all in the last post
is ambrosia useful if I have the battle companion?
i feel like i wanna prioritize getting as many titan bloods for guan yu etc
i also need to figure out how to beat hades consistently rip
is the boon roll worth? especially for getting some near must-haves like athena's shield
i have mine set to the chamber roll
Ambrosia is useful for upgrading the companions and progressing relationships with characters
Boon Roll is pretty much the go-to over the chamber roll
I do like Hermes acknowledging the timer.
wonder if there is ever gonna be an axe
I just found stupid cheese.
Support Fire + That thing that makes you cast really fast + casting into a wall
It's not very good, but still.
You don't have to deal damage with the casts to fire arrows.
so worse artemis cast

But no cooldown or going to get it.
What's causing the PS, Mark?
prolly
lmao the description: as we all know, Artemis' Aid is a form of Support Fire
(the joke being that the title says Support Fire only)
i had it with fast/accurate +6 rd daedelus upgrade and +40% GG taking damage
Also something something call I-frames
i know iframes from BDO lmao
Flexible thumb
Yep, itās only really a party trick and I didnāt even notice lol my hands just can do that
Does the final boss really get stronger every time you face them or am I just getting bad cycles with lots of big painful attacks?
Doesn't get harder unless you add heat that would effect it
same boss
They used to not spawn as many enemies with stupid amounts of armor before, guess I was getting lucky.
Yeah, but youāll get better at the game
I think my first clear at 45 and second at like 53 or so
End credits at around 70
Keep fighting
And get max death defiances and dark foresight on mirror
Gods pride is a waste
Foresight is too good
That feeling when you're at a point where you need to make tuns harder or use weapons you never use to beat the final boss to unlock more stuff.
I think I did like 3-4 clears with the bow to get enough blood for a new weapon that had a good aspect
Then worked through all of them
I tried to max 1 aspect at a time per weapon
I'm two clears into the sword.
Sounds like I need to collect a decent amount more blood to unlock the last sword aspect.
when you haven't played in half a year and have to relearn everything
Last sword aspect is meh
Might be meh but it's an unlockable.
i never until now noticed the funny poses skelly does when you hit him
is there a way to get more dashes without relying on hermes?
how do i get the gilgamesh?
other than that hermes appears every round so
I've been wanting to try a dash only build ;-;
you get the Guan Yu, then spend blood in the fists and go fight the bull man with it
it's the only one I'm missing funny enough
uhhh i cant post a picture here..
but is it the golden place on the keepsakes?
where gilgamesh would appear?
oh wait nvm,
gilgamesh is an aspect for the malphon fists
also got hunting blades, splitting headache and mirage shot all in asphodel 
ik i just realized ;-;
I don't really use the fists so idk what it was b4.
Yeah but you're going to want to start clearing with new weapons to get more blood, it's probably better to get one good aspect in each weapon rather than spending blood on all sword aspects early. Just my advice anyway
Any tips on getting ||Achilles and Patroclus to get their act together? Lmao I've had them both at locked hearts for agesss. I have all the other Cthonic Companions, I'm post game but no epilogue yet, but nothing š They actually started giving me non-dialogue recently? Just one line no nothing lines? Like... My dudes. I KNOW we have something to talk about here lol||
have you done the sisyphus questline
i think you require both sisyphus and orpheus finished first
at one point achilles will comment on that and then the story will keep going hopefully
the Orpheus storyline is probably the only one required
now that i remember
man i wish there was a heat reset button or that it saved the heat settings you have for one weapon
same
Yeah, I honestly think I've done ever other major quest to this point ||freed Sisyphus, Orpheus freed and reunited, Meg, Than, Dusa all maxed, Nyx reunited, Skelly maxed...|| š
I just throw special attack to have the damage reduction and spam regular attack with smoldering air Zeus call Aphrodite attack
try to stay behind him
the backstab damage adds up a ton
if you break pots do it with the long range 3rd swing or cast not the first one
lay down the special at long range to protect against the skulls
you can also hide behind pillars and lead in the 3rd swing as he walks around to get you
if youre not sure about how big an opening is, dont go past the 2nd swing
Bruh guan Yu sucks at lv 2
Needing a level 5 and a Daedalus upgrade to become decent is actually kinda sad
ok 32 heat Hades didn't go very well
i have em4 but didn't even beat the 2nd phase
em4 hard
Yea it can punish you very easily
I replaced bf2 with bf, took em3 instead of em4, added cf2 and some more hard labor to make up for lost heat
time to try again ig
Timing is everything with Arthur. Don't overcommit to attacks or you will get punished hard. Attack once or twice and reposition. Getting backstabs on really helps.
And dash strikes are great on Arthur.
Weirdest thing just happened. I'm working or a fresh file and have definitely got out once with rail (it was yesterday) so I aimed for a quick farming run to get more darkness for the mirror. Picked rail again (Hestia both times) at zero heat, but I'm getting Titan blood rather than darkness for Meg. And the progression map shows I don't have bosses cleared!?
This is the legendary fishing run, I wonder if that affects anything?!
What's annoying is I have 3 darkness boosting boons on the run and wanted to farm a couple of thousand for the mirror.
Oh here hades
I beat him for the first time :D
I had 3 death defied and lucky tooth
Didn't need them
I think the 250hp I had was enough
Close call tho I was on 2hp
Yeah that happened to me first time I got out. When it clicks, it clicks.
What's ur fav weapon
Who tf is arthur
@last veldt
Swordy
What
Itās a sword aspect
20 boons moment
What ur fav weapon?
Maybe Rama or Beo
24
What
Tough to answer since I barely played with base weapons before I unlocked aspects
Maybe Shield or Bow
But both are hammer reliant to an extent
I need to grind bounties fast. Any advice?
Go fast 
And how fast are you averaging
Around 20 minutes
Have you checked the speedrunning basics vid
Have you trued recording your runs and checking where youāre wasting time
Is this rta btw
Ik where I'm wasting time. Going between enemies and stuff
Igt
Then it might just be about polishing your play and getting enough juice for bosses
Alright alright, it was 30 seconds
Yeah, probably. Also I need a fun spear
Alright alright, it was 3
The rush towards spear attack i meant
It gives you the raging bonus damage for your next 4 attacks or casts
That's what Ares has for one of his boons
I'm aware
I was just wondering if you can apply status effects with it
What button triggers it
Raging Rush buffs you and doesnāt apply to enemies how would it be a status curse
I think they mean like the actual attack thats throw special > rush
Question: If your first clear on a weapon is with non zero heat, and your second is with no heat, should you get Titan blood for the second run? I would have thought not, but I definitely just did.
Iāve been completely stuck with the Hydra. Does anyone have any tips on how I can beat them?
Have you tried not getting hit? /Hypnos
You little-
Seriously though, what weapon?
I assume it's the second multi head phase that's causing trouble
The solo head phases are easy enough to learn and there are things to hide behind and plenty of space to dodge things.
Itās mainly my health that I think is my problem
The first 3 head phase always has two on one side and one at the other, so take out the solo head first.
I need more death defiant
How many do you have?
2 +1 from skelly
You can learn the patterns for the solo bits and reliably take no damage there
The main head is very predictable
In phase 1 you can hit it fairly easily and any big moves are telegraphed early.
Iām about to get 3 + 1
In phase 2 it will ALWAYS punish you if you hit it after it attacks, so bait it out and then punish it back.
Phase 3 is like 2, but it slams more times and his some big spam attacks.
So once you can reliably take basically no damage on the solo head phases, you just gotta burn down the multi head phases as fast as possible
Melee weapons have a tougher time
But you just have to learn the patterns and practice
Multi head phase is where you'll take some damage. Concentrate or getting a couple of heads down that are next to each other to buy yourself some space, but don't stand still. Be prepared to dodge out and do some work on a different had for a bit.
ALSO what is the best weapon to use?
No best weapon, only favourites
Really not one is better than the other?
I suck at the bow-
I like the fist and spear
Theyāre all good at your stage of the game, just play the one youāre most comfortable with, if I tell you that shield is good but you have no knowledge on how to build it nor how to play youāll likely end up performing much worse than with other weapons
If you have aspects unlocked, Talos fists are good for beginners
š aspects?
I did but my game didnāt save and now I need to unlock the guns :/
Ah. Do that and do one more run.
Yeah you can skip 0 heat for some reason then come back to it
Yeah was hoping for a darkness farming run and got stiffed with pesky Titan blood
No
Okay I will come back later then
We'll never be ready
Than or Meg?
Thanatos
Why not ||both||?
Thanatos was the whole reason I bought this game

Itās actually the reason I got into Greek mythology
He's fine.
The aspect
it's safer at level 5
Thatās an oof
charged skewer with it is fun
It seems to need some really specific hammers to function properly which you might not get during the run rip
Yeah needing level 5 and specific hammers to function on par with level 1 aspects is not it lol
They're all situational.
I feel like Arthur is just good
Are there any other good spear aspects
Achilles for cast builds
What about dash striking builds
Thats spear for you 
Lol I feel like that puts spear under all the other weps
Other weapons can and will survive without the hammers, quite well
Achilles still can be done with cast builds at least
tooth or acorn for higher heat? I'm trying 32 heat and died to Hades phase 2 last run
Acorn is mostly used
alright
Acorn every time
Is hades spear good
Can be
It's fine but I don't favour the spear much other than Achilles
Hades spear with fast "spin" is nicer
Otherwise it's just a pain to be stopping to wind up the sweep
I don't like stopping...
i need alot of blood, but dont want to sell bounties anymore
so ima get bounties and practice speedrunning at the same time
does the Hydralite Gold from Patroclus still work if I have lc4
no
Touch of styx dark is the only choice if lc4 on lol
I take Jerky if I'm gaming too hard
why not jerky? I don't see any point in restoring defiance if you're using stubborn defiance

unless it gives you another like athena
It gives you net 80 percent health when u die from stubborn
Touch of Styx Dark makes it so your SD heals 50% more
Yea it changes
Now you do
š
I find patty or cheeky Athena extra defiance nearly required on sweaty runs
Depends how sweaty
Hard to quantify since you have peak gamer powers and I was off dissecting controllers rather than getting gud
But cheeky bonus defiance and patty are basically how you can facetank dad lol
tho lc4 in general makes you git gud at bosses
Casual 50 Heat.
Indeed
What's winter harvest
Demeter Legendary
Death defiance = kiss of styx
Stubborn = touch of styx

Ah
hey uh regarding nyx's request for the eldest sigil thingy...i cant seem to find it listed on the house contractor's stuff, nor can i find the prompt in the admin chamber to send the thing over to the contractor
is the eldest sigil the big red portal?
I think ur in the wrong channel
i see.....alright, thanks
Based
Nice
I dunno I just sat there and mashed it for an hour during a compliance training for work, didnāt take too many brain cells to say I wonāt steal company money and mash L simultaneously
lmao
optimal gameplay
Havenāt stolen any company money but I shred on the lyre
I might have expensed a gaming computer for work, but it was in budget 
Also an option. I went the way I did because I had to be on zoom watching a power point stating the obvious with video on lol
Yeah I was doing it that way play a round or two then go, but then that meeting was just an opportunity to grind it and not feel like I was wasting my free time lol
I WISH
im so confused
i was playing hades;
and started a run
heat 16, first boon posideon
i was only offered one choice, which is his legendary boon for fishing
it requires 2 other boons? and conch?
That's a scripted event. Only happens once.
Nah, just something that happens after you get the Rod of Fishing.
Two out of Conch Shell, Sunken Treasure, and Ocean's Bounty. So if you have the Conch Shell equipped, you only need one of the boons.
yeah!
well
not a half bad boon
im trying to get all the legendaries but
uuu its a lot
some of them i find easier than others to get, i see aphrodite's pretty often just by playing and picking her boons. but i guess its all just luck and rng
mhm!
i really want to 100% the game long term
but
of course thats going to take ages
esp with the resource director
its the only thing i have left, though i havent played the game in a while 
If you take that as completion yeah
its not
oh! sorry sorry thought you meant the boons
i do want resource director, even though its gonna be a real pain
oh, i thought you meant the resource director was part of the fated list, lol. yeah the boons are
Depends if you wanna grind heat or speedruns
astaos typing as soon as the clown emote is used
based
Farming darkness is boring in itself

literally have done so many runs and i am just about halfway there darkness wise. it is so much of it
i kinda wish heat still boosted darkness when it didnt give bounties 
omg hes so cute š
On zag bow it basically pays for itself with aoe and damage
On Rama itās sus but so fun lol
i used it on chiron and it worked pretty well
but thats probably cuz i got doom special deflect attack and athena and ares's duo boon
and deflect dash lol
hell yeah
man I can got get blizzard shot to proc
TIL if you die the same frame as the boss the boss goes down first and ur damage doesnāt register
Just had that on a nasty ass Demeter Thesus
im SO excited for that figure I WANNA SEE MY LITTLE BOY (HERE HE COMES)
Hourglass becomes a great option there if you have it leveled and a disposable roll or two
Yeah. Taking 8 room rolls and saving them for Styx mostly let's you do boonless reliably ... mostly.
I've saved a boonless run with a purging pool in the tunnels just before picking up a non boon at the sack.
just take three rerolls into styx and somehow roll all the doors into non boons 
Also not picking up hammers mean it will try and force one on you in Styx.
But if you get a 5 sack it can be rough.
If you run out of rolls, take boons first and hope for a purging well before the sack.
Hestia rail.
Maxed.
Shackle obvs.
Ahh
Zag bow
You can always play it as zag bow ig
Hera doesnt upgrade cast dmg
Thats what we call a bad zag bow
I dont like shackle cast enough tbh, idk wht
rama?
an aspect
Not really for boonless
Getting crush shot and 1 Pom will greatly outdamage shackle
And you donāt need to stop at 1 Pom
Zag bow is great for shackle runs because it has good attack hammers and innate crit
Yea that one on the other hand⦠
15% increased attack and movement speed is nothing
also since youre spamming dash usually with sword it really doesnt do much
Wdym it's great with RD /s
Iāve finally maxed out all the weapon aspects
It took me so long
Nemesis sword is very good
Arthur is so slow to recover hp tho
Actually bruh moment
For easier dash strike you can hold attack button and just dash
Itās max arthur with Aphrodite
Arthur so tanky you really dont need that 2 hp x slow swing
Iām bad and am down two revives already so ehh
Iād take breaching
You donāt attack fast with Arthur so not much benefit from cursed slash
And youāre not dash striking a lot with Arthur
I think they already decided lol
Yeah
Went with cursed
This is the second time Iāve ever gotten cursed so I wanted to use it
Bruh
That less health is gonna kill you
The only time I used cursed slash is a meme build with zag sword, flurry slash, and bonus attack speed from Hermes
Surprisingly op but probably not good for higher heats
Iām using this mostly to farm the purple gem thing
Yeah no Iām at 1 heat
Lol
If you thought this was high heat then yeah
Yes
Nah I didnāt I just meant the build I use is really fun and somewhat op but only for lower heats
Dash through it, or get behind him
He does hit hard
TFW I just got the ending and still donāt remember the name
He hits so hard even with arthur
I havenāt really fought Charon much but I remember initially struggling with him
me neither 
In any case I get 20% off for the rest of the run
In Tartarus no less
I think I used Chiron for my first Charon win
Funny cause similar name
I had a win with Hera too. Triple Phalanx
Grabbed serrsted point and a "enemy drops bomb on death" curse and lost a DD really quick 
F
Facts
kinda a bruh moment when youre doing 50 heat em4 and no patty
He was two hits away from dying when I finally went down :/ also decided not to bring an extra
Just get patty next time
Some adult themes š
https://twitter.com/supergiantgames/status/1469768462142566406?s=12
Anyone else saw this?
Look at him!!š„ŗ
We're so excited to see Zag here taking shape. Thank you @GoodSmile_US! https://t.co/y1jXCFHTEd
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hey i am about to fight the 3rd boss of the game. This is not my first try but i was wondering, should i go for the human or the bull first (i am sorry idk the names). In my last 2 tries i went for the bull and it didn't end well
The Minotaur
ok ty
Just make sure you pay attention to Theseusās spear throws
And stay far from him so he doesnāt do the spin
You can hide behind the pillars
yeah i didnt last time š
Theseus is annoying to focus on first because in his second phase he summons help from a god so youāre having to deal with that plus Asterius
i see
Good luck theyāre definitely tough at first
ty š
I've thought of this before - if you have a switch, detach the controller and flip the screen over
Very based
I would hate that.
hades but you have to press interact to retrieve your casts
Hades but if you run Infernal soul and don't pick up your casts before you leave a room, you lose them for the run
same for throwable spears, you have to do the remaining run with bare fists
hades but you never find mom 
Now that sounds fun.
Imagine a secret ending never escaping
Well, never escaping is basically the ending.
Thesus actually wack change my mind
Also is there a reason why Guan Yu is just had
I heard it got nerfed? Right now it feels like a slow spear with above average damage with a massive drawback
The closest comparison is Arthur and stat and utility wise it is not even close
The "nerf" was still during development. From 50 to 45 base damage for the Special. Didn't really affect it too much.
Guan Yu is still one of the best aspects to no-hit the game with.
Excalibur is certainly not.
man i wish hades spear was good
maybe this is why hades ditched it for the one he has now
how is aspect of hades worse than aspect of achilles lol
increases all dmg, increases spin range
quick spin makes it easier to use but the extra dmg doesnt apply to the spin
but thats like its only downside
I feel like if u want to no hit it really doesnāt matter what weapon you choose? So I doubt this actually matters
And for 99.9% of the population that doesnāt it feels kinda clunky
Died at 15% hp P2 Hades pain
How would guan yu be good for no hitting if its only use is vamp
And u need to get hit for vamp to be useful
^
Also does giving Megara Ambrosia help in any way
Like finishing a quest line etc
Right now I donāt see much of a point to use Ambrosia
Chiron might be the best for no hitting
Since its a bow and is pretty safe
And has high dmg on top of that with a good build
I've tried butterfly with chiron and hestia
hestia is better
cause the animation commitment is lower by a slight bit
and you can cancel reload animation by dashing
faster buff appliance and a lot more versatile although hades is safer, and great for special builds
It absolutely matters what aspect you use. Some aspects are just a whole lot better at taking out enemies without taking damage, and Guan Yu is one of them.
The Special is amazing especially with Charged Skewer.
100%. The first no-hit run was done by Haelian with Hestia.
And the first 40 Heat clear was done with Guan Yu. The Special was toned down a bit since, and a lot of aspects were brought up to its level. But it's still a pretty good aspect.
You need to enjoy a glass cannon playstyle, which isn't everyone's thing, naturally.
I wrote a guide for Guan Yu anyway if either one of you is interested. #h1-discussion message
when you say "dash strike x2" is there a particular way to angle them
Like 2 short forward strikes vs 1 forward + 1 sideways or something
I just aim in the general direction of enemies, pretty much? I dunno, I don't think about it lol.
Into a group of enemies.
I think you just get better at it with practice. It's not something you get better at by analyzing it, you just gotta play a lot.
But I usually try to do the two Dash-Strikes as quickly as possible after the Special without giving up precision.
Whiffs cost time.
And then with practice you just get better at doing it fast without whiffing.
Ty
Hm it seems like I was playing Guan Yu mostly correctly, it fits my playstyle (being up in the opponents face and letting loose specials + dash strikes); I almost beat Hades but got cucked because of Theusus and not bringing an extra revive to Hades
I'll try another Guan Yu run tomorrow
I tried a Guan Yu run today
Hey can chaos gates spawn in asphodel
I beat it but I lost all my defiances to Theseus and Asterius lol
yes
i swear Theseus eats up hella revives
So annoying that there isn't a Patroclus-level refresh afterwards
I've learned to play around theseus now
Asterius is fine, Theseus is just monke
First run of the day and beat dad
gz
im getting better at Hades
I finally got max affinity with Hades so I can finally use Battie against him 
Deleting 1/4 of his HP in one go is pretty pog
Divine Dash is my crutch
Don't let this be
My strat before I started using other Calls was waiting for Aphro's max call and then blasting him
If I had Smoldering Mist I tried to level Aphro's call as high as possible to max stun time
I had ares call when I just beat dad
try aiming for a smair build if you want chunking action
Smouldering air
With guan yu you also kinda want to use the spin
To compensate for hp
You dont need to lean into spin hammers
But I would recommend quick spin
any call really, some are better than other in terms of damage/safety, like ares tends to be worse cause it can make you get hit a lot
And learning how to time it
You dont need to. It just might help if you are dying with it
Uh is mirage shot any good
I just think itās very very slow and unsafe
With a non cast build lol
There's no "correct" way to play, really. It's a lot safer to just use your Special from far away than to play aggressive with Special into Dash-Strikes, for example, but being more aggressive gives you much better DPS, of course. The downside of that is you can't make a lot of mistakes.
No? I mean, it should be obvious, no?
Yeah
Fair
If you dont make mistakes then GY is only upsides
Strong all around
Can be pretty agile even
Yeah I feel like if I went for a pure ranged playthrough then GY would be fine
Idk, health deficit aside itās still weaker than Achilles DPS-wise
They didnt necessarily need the life drain but I do like it
Feels different
It can be weaker. It isnt necessarily always weaker
Achilles is also stronger than basically everything at its best
Ambrosia is nectar+
I have a fully leveled Battie
right but do those relations give me anything
Not Beo
the questlines right?
Achilles can probably do more damage than Beo honestly
ive been using them as fodder for Titan Blood
cuz all these weps have aspects that are pretty pog
Unless you plan to stop playing soon
the plotlines?
If that were true, it would be used for the the seeded run. Especially since the special letās you move much faster. So no, it canāt.
What has?
Achilles
Not really
Iām pretty sure Achilles heat wr is below 56 heat
But yes, itās great for speedruns
53 Heat.
But I wouldnāt say its DPS is better than Beowulf
Yeah, I wouldnāt call that ānear max heatā
hmmm
No, itās partly because the special letās you move so quickly. And also because it has multiple different builds it can go with (as long as it gets FJ)
Wdym? Special auto-aim into EM4 urns is fun. 
But yes, Achilles has great damage
But I definitely wouldnāt say itās better than Beo
Well, the ability to move quickly matters a lot for DPS in Hades.
Oh yeah I guess thatās a way to look at it
Can't do a lot of damage per second if you can't hit anything because enemies are far away.
Hunting Blades at least is also really safe
Wellā¦
It's why epic Greatest Reflex is one of the top picks in speedruns still.
Ofc
Ironically, the best speedruns have relatively low DPS compared to some slower runs because they get so many free rooms, they don't get to do much damage. 
Crystal Clarity probably better than Hunting Blades for high heat, both good options. But then you run into AP2, RI, etc.

Heroic greatest reflex is +4 dashes 
Just had the most overpowered run ever
First time ever using the gun
Got a heroic frost flourish with the daedalus rocket special
And got some meme beam build where cast drops little crystals with beams, got a boon that makes them auto target lock and every time I cast, 2 crystals emerge instead of 2
4th time beating dad on this save
I just had +2 dashes with poseidon dash
Ur virtually untouchable
Just read about erebus chambers, don't think im good enough to do those lol
Also, how do u unlock the last sword aspect again?
#h1-story-discussion pins
There's a codex entry that actually requires you to not do well, so might as well start jumping in 
based
i lose more to bull and king than dad now
I havent lost to theses in a long time
Oh I also did it on heat 1 with the poseidon aspect on sword
And wow aspect of guan yu seems horrible
the broker is asking 2 titan blood for a bottle of ambrosia
i think his exchange rate is a little off
Will there be an update for progress transfer between ps4 and 5?
when do i get to call bone hydra lernie?
Yeah, the broker doesn't always have objectively good deals, but sometimes you just need that extra ambrosia.
It just happens at some point. There's a dialogue for it.
do i ever get more fans in elysium or just the one
lol
Lol
not getting used to having no swear words in a server
but oh well the game gives enough replacements that i can use
yea
The bot can help you too 
why is my doom sometimes doing 250 damage and sometimes 500
wth
and its the same ability
Do you have maybe Dire misfortune?
no
Are you getting any sort of Global Dmg
well maybe share your victory screen later, we'll see what cause it
i lost
featuring double edge
Double edge and shadow slash donāt exactly have great synergy
Unless you mean huge backstabs without even without Shadow Slash
hammer upgrades only affect base damage
ok
The latter can wait
Luckily for you, you donāt need room rerolls because fated persuasion is always better 
boonless runs would like a word
Meme runs too
im also thinking of trying authority on dio beo runs bcs mirage is so important bu thatd be a meme run
I had a dream of unlocking the aspect of Gilgamesh
More like a nightmare
lmao
Gilnyaamesh 
pog
Rama bow go pew pew 
love speeder bows 34
Wait is this true? Or do you mean only hammers affect base damage?
Iām pretty sure there are hammers that add a % but not to base damage
I think they just mean it affects the weapon, not boon
I thought i liked bow a lot until i got Aspect of Arthur for sword
hey, i equipped the Pierced Butterfly and wanted to know something about it. If in the first "world" i gain some damage % and in the second world i change my keepsake. Will the % boost go away?
Yes, you'll lose the bonus damage.
aww
Yeah, you just gotta take them from the start to the end or at least from Asphodel to the end to get much out of them.
just dont get smacked with an oar for 50 health in tartarus 
is there any way to change mapping for combos cause x+b for the malphon doesnt seem easy to pull off in the middle of a battle
you get used to it
This is old news but I just learned that the original concept of this game was going to have you playing as Theseus
if you dont get hit em4 is easy
but good stuff
yeah, fair, charon is i'd say about as hard as em3
its a bullet hell that hurts a lot if you mess up lol
but tart charon if youre feeling reckless, youll likely win the run if you win that fight
the damage you get from atrophic strike is it permanent or temporary?
the damage from what?
the curse lasts however many rooms, then it is a % attack boost that lasts til the end of the run
is it chaos
thats how all chaos works

