#h1-discussion
lone kernel
modern pollen
damn i made an edit of that and just realized i cant post it
modern pollen
so i think demeter might be broken
achilles prediction that zagreus is god of darkness is wrong since erebus is god of darkness
he might still be god of blood or hunting because zagreus means great hunter
lone kernel
How does Excalibur work
Ever play smash bros?
tropic arrow
lone kernel
If so: you’re Ganondorf
tropic arrow
If so: you’re Ganondorf
Don’t think I’ve played Ganon
modern pollen
we need a fire-based god to counterbalance savage grandma
apollo or hephaestus or both
lone kernel
He’s super slow and chonky and can kill you in two attacks
you gotta lean into ganondorf mentality
like you start w bonus life, your base attack can take Tartarus easy
Athena attack on it is quite fun
tropic arrow
The thing is
lone kernel
But don’t try to play it sneaky, get in the mindset of i am here with a big stick to smash faces with
lone kernel
60/80/200
lone kernel
dash strikes
or wind it up sooner
but those first two strikes do good damage as is - have u tried Athena attack that’ll help u get it off
Also super based with deadly reversal
Your other sword aspect muscle memory may make it tricky to overcome at first
chrome wharf
we need a fire-based god to counterbalance savage grandma
My fan theory is that Hades was the original fire god, but his powers were overwritten when he took over the underworld. It still shows through since his attack causes boiling blood, and the lasers are pretty hot too, plus he has the red color scheme.
If we want more mythological-based, Hestia and Hephaestus are fire-related
tropic arrow
but those first two strikes do good damage as is - have u tried Athena attack th...
Will try it, thx
modern pollen
yeah but hestia and dionysus were never shown together and since dionysus is already in there to get to 12 olympians you can't have hestia
i'm glad i played hades because it inspired me to make a comic retelling all the old greek stories
nocturne ginkgo
Hey uh sorry to bother yall, but uh: does anyone have Divine Protection active on their current run right now? I wanna get an image of the active buff (the band with shields revolving around) for reference purposes but i cant find an image on google
modern pollen
<img src="https://i.ytimg.com/vi/X5DC14Pj5Rg/maxresdefault.jpg" alt="The Legendary Athena Boon - Divine Protection in the Rogue-like Hades - YouTube"/>
i found this
nocturne ginkgo
...wait isnt that visual the one thats used for pure immunity or smth
And right now Divine Protection looks like a golden band of light with revolving shields
twin thistle
yeah its a bit different from that
modern pollen
idk i've never used divine protection i never gets legendary boons
i got the poseidon one but pretty much every one gets that one
twin thistle
yeah getting huge catch is a scripted event after grabbing the fishing rod
modern pollen
i wonder if its possible to get it if you don't have the fishing rod
modern pollen
yeah
warped atlas
I've been trying to 100% the game and I finally just got the last steam achievement!
void vigil
congrats!
narrow hemlock
alma hit the react you bean
modern pollen
noice
narrow hemlock
thanks :3
warped atlas
thanks, this is definitely one of my favorite games i've ever played
modern pollen
my brother says he doesn't like hades when a. he's never played it and b. he has horrible taste in game
warped atlas
Why doesn't he like it then?
warped atlas
honestly I know lots of siblings who don't like stuff, and their only reason for it is that there sibling does
warped atlas
I agree
modern pollen
and he says he doesn't like roguelikes or dungeon crawlers but he plays minecraft dungeons every day same with spelunky
so thats bs
chrome wharf
I didn't want to play it for the longest time bc I heard they made Hades (the god) into the antagonist and I liked him
modern pollen
i don't know how i feel about that
chrome wharf
joke's on both sides because game hades ended up my favorite character anyway
fringe dust
anyone know how hades runs on windows 11? im being prompted for an upgrade and I was curious
sly panther
will there ever be a content update
raw herald
Highly unlikely
twin thistle
when chaos offers double minus dash then double roiling then another minus dash dist plus tart enshrouded
shadow quarry
will a 32% healing boost make 2 heal from cursed slash 3?
and also, if i mash dash with the athena one will i be invunerable through the whole thing
vapid narwhal
athena dash does not give you extra invincible frames
it gives you deflect during the dash, but you are invincible throughout the dash animation regardless, as long as you dont dash strike
full nexus
shadow quarry
i am always invincible when dashing exept when dash-striking
vapid narwhal
dash strike will end the iframes
vapid narwhal
yeah it's RNG
halcyon girder
Hey guys is the cosmic egg any good?
mighty rose
if i already have the boons i want from the other gods' keepsakes, absolutely! it's great to go in with no health penalty and the rarity increase is great
devout terrace
Hey guys is the cosmic egg any good?
Can be if you find an ixion in the mid biome
(well)
Usually not worth I would say, cool for the prophecy
gray apex
If it guaranteed a Chaos Gate it would've been so nice
gray apex
halcyon girder
So it's more meme keepsake than anything
Ah
twin thistle
if nothing else it buffs duo/legendary chance ig
halcyon girder
Neat I finished the first stage in 4 minutes
So what happens if the god hood thing got up to 100%?
vapid narwhal
god mode? it caps at 80%
gray apex
Nice
teal oriole
Есть здесь канал для русскоговорящих?
high island
My fan theory is that Hades was the original fire god, but his powers were overw...
Zagreus's entry in the character sheet that we can see in the GDC video about the dialogue in Hades shows "God of Blood and Fire".
grizzled needle
Cool
chrome wharf
ae
spare tiger
Zagreus's entry in the character sheet that we can see in the GDC video about th...
How old is the video?
They easily could have gone back on that
thorny mirage
I mean zag also directly says he is the god of blood at the beginning of some runs
thorny mirage
fast willow
hades says that zagreus is the god of talking back to him (hades) so now thats canon in my mind
devout terrace
lmao
brave portal
God of daddy issues
devout terrace
high island
God of Blood and by extension family probably includes talking back to your parents.
unborn remnant
fast willow
to apply exposed do you have to actually deflect an attack or is it like ME where hitting them with the deflect boon is enough
marsh rivet
Just hitting with a deflecting hitbox will apply Exposed
strong ridge
does a duo count 4 fam fav
strong ridge
awsom
lone kernel
meme run with all the gods
marsh rivet
I think you can only have 7? I'm trying to think, I don't think there's a way to leave Tartarus with 5 gods already
twin thistle
can you get three before mid shop
high island
You can get boons from all the gods in one run. That's an extra challenge in a Monthly Challenge. 
marsh rivet
Oh, nvm, it's pretty easy to leave with 5, if one of the gods in the last shop is the 4th and there's also a random god offering
No matter what though, Theseus will have a god to call since the 8th would be in styx
high island
He'll default to Lady Artemis if you get there with boons from every god anyway.
marsh rivet
Oh huh, how do you get 8 in Elysium?
twin thistle
just keep rerolling away from your keepsake god and get 5 from midshop then get keepsake god
marsh rivet
Authority, okay that makes sense
twin thistle
thats some big rng tho
high island
You could do that before you meet Lady Demeter, or before they added Lady Demeter to the game.
high island
Oh, nvm, it's pretty easy to leave with 5, if one of the gods in the last shop i...
I don't think that can happen.
marsh rivet
Wait really? I actually don't know explicitly what the shop rules are
high island
m just going by the fact that I've never seen it or heard of it. The only known way to find boons from 5 gods (excluding Master Chaos and Lord Hermes) before Asphodel is to have boons from 3 gods at mid-shop, then find a new god in the shop and a different new god in the exit.
strong ridge
boldy
fast willow
high island
Not a god.
strong ridge
to some
high island
But also not a mortal.
fast willow
Not a god.
thats debatable
marsh rivet
He grants boon, therefore.
high island
I'll admit there's some ambiguity.
brisk trail
is exagryph the best for beating Hell mode the first time?
trying to beat it this stream so I wanna know which is the best:D
strong ridge
i think u r stuck w sword for a 1 r un clear
marsh rivet
Yeah, probably safest bet is Zeus start
brisk trail
i think u r stuck w sword for a 1 r un clear
already died like 6 times so it wont be a oneshot:D
brisk trail
trying to beat it this stream so I wanna know which is the best:D
i've made it to redacted 4 times with spear and nearly killed them twice with spear
but i haven't beat the game yet so i could be wrong and lucky
strong ridge
spear special probably
brisk trail
spear special probably
special and dash strike mostly
i made it 2 times out of my 6 deaths but both those times i had 1 hit hp:D
strong ridge
nise
brisk trail
malphon is the most fun for me but idk how hard it is to use in hell
strong ridge
hell mode isnt that much different than the normal game
just turns off chunk damage protection basicaly
and pact obv
brisk trail
is hell mode the optional harder difficulty?
twin thistle
yeah
strong ridge
ye
brisk trail
nice
wary cypress
malphon is the most fun for me but idk how hard it is to use in hell
I really like Malphon too. 😄
twin thistle
you can just turn on the pact though
strong ridge
it is the the way 2 64 HEAT but that does not matter for like all players
twin thistle
first clears can be pretty much carried by merciful end on zag aspects other than rail which you want zeus/jolted
hell mode can also make stuff like 50 heat easier since you take stuff like js and cp anyways so the extra 1 heat from the hell mode pact can replace some more annoying things
marsh rivet
hell mode can also make stuff like 50 heat easier since you take stuff like js a...
Yeah, specifically, the difference between 49 and 50 heat is probably bigger than any other single heat jump in the game.
high island
What about the jump from 63 to 64? You have to make a new profile just to add 1 Heat. That's pretty big.
marsh rivet
Lol, that was the cost for 50 heat for me in the beginning too
My progression was 49 in EA, then finish a hell mode save, then 50, then actually learning how to do 50
high island
I dunno. Never done 50. Was more interested in high heat.
full nexus
devout terrace
55 talos when
fast willow
Yeah, specifically, the difference between 49 and 50 heat is probably bigger tha...
what do you have to take that makes such a huge difference for that 1 heat
marsh rivet
You can do EM3 AP1 RI2 TD2 at 49 heat (with DC2)
high island
Yeah, what do you have to add to get to 50 Heat? https://imgur.com/a/RUojYyU
There's nothing left with only 1 Heat, that's why you need Hell Mode.
'Tis the only way.
high island
"Come on, Charon. Throw me."
I feel like that's a pretty reasonable pact for people doing their first 49 Heat.
high island
People complain about BP2 enemies and the timer a lot, so... there won't be any problem with that.
chrome wharf
🌹 start?
high island
start, yes. Of course.
I see somebody isn't subscribed to Lady Aphrodite's Twitch channel.
You should fix that. 
marsh rivet
Oh, a rose. I saw a ping pong paddle
chrome wharf
no nitro sadge
fickle bloom
has anyone ever thought abt creating a mod or smth with the gods not in the game like hephestaus, hera, hestia , and apollo
narrow hemlock
promise you they have. there is a modding server pinned in #self-promotion
sour elk
I didn’t notice my SD got popped and I accidentally lava’d myself to death hoping to reset it 
Good run, lunch break
stable dagger
Daily reminder that Artemis is an SSS tier character in an S tier game and is in fact the best girl of all supergiant properties
gray apex
I didn’t notice my SD got popped and I accidentally lava’d myself to death hopin...
Mission failed successfully
hearty bramble
new keepsake idea... Head Chef's keepsake. it is just a really big gyro and it heals you
high island
Daily reminder that Artemis is an SSS tier character in an S tier game and is in...
Now you've gone too far.
hearty bramble
Now you've gone too far.
Who is best sgg girl in your opinion
high island
hearty bramble
Ahh good choice
high island
It's more than a choice, it's fate.
stable dagger
Big demon Girl is best pyre girl
devout terrace
brisk trail
pyre in hades discussion smh my head 🙄
signal aspen
chrome wharf
stable dagger
wait, you *didnt* pick <a:AphroditeSticker:772250944590839808>
she is hottest supergiant girl
high island
I haven't said anything that Lady Aphrodite doesn't already know.
twin thistle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/825862916561305643/900824834471260191/unknown.png i just realized I was using em2
gray apex
Lol
pure karma
https://i.imgur.com/PfTDQGq.jpg
What game is this?
high island
Pyre.
pure karma
thx
gray apex
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/825862916561305643/900824834471260191/unk...
I have so many questions
high island
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/825862916561305643/900824834471260191/unk...
Why do you only have two boons? 
signal aspen
RI2 moment
high island
Even with RI2, that's like actively avoiding boons.
twin thistle
semi boonless 40 heat
duh
also im a big stupid dumb
i rerolled a styx door to try to get another heart
high island
Oh, you have two Chaos boons.
twin thistle
and now i forced myself to take dem cast
high island
Why do you have Authority with RI1+?
gray apex
Authority
twin thistle
well... close enough
gray apex
This is some good memery
twin thistle
i rerolled a whole single door in elysium into a heart okay
tbh persuasion better for chaos but uhhhhh
yes
gray apex
I'm gonna try that
twin thistle
also no patty is sad
gray apex
But Rama
high island
Nothing about this run makes sense.
twin thistle
maybe
signal aspen
4 Meg charges
high island
Oh, it's not even Rama. I thought it was Rama. Now it makes even less sense.
gray apex
Lol
twin thistle
well i skipped a lot of mini bosses
high island
I can see that.
twin thistle
couldve used em on just reg elysium rooms
high island
No, EM doesn't affect regular Elysium rooms.
twin thistle
okay im bad at dad fight without acorn and patty
gray apex
ded?
high island
Would have won if you had Passion Dash instead of Hunter Dash.
brisk trail
been finding i take divine dash less and less often
glad that i'm not using it as my primary crutch
modern garnet
Dad of the God
brisk trail
why's the shackle on?
would it not be for like, crazy boonless runs
or maybe i'm getting its use case wrong
gray apex
Well it's in use rn, and I'm avoiding attack boons to keep it that way
Rama Special with Chackle doesnt do anything because the base dmg is already low so I took Dio
And Artemis' dash is also in effect so more dmg
high island
The Hestia speedrun WR has Shackle and no Attack boon.
gray apex
Shackle gud
high island
+100% Attack damage is a lot.
No.
Good that you removed that.
I was about to have you fed to my sacred crocodiles. It seems you live another day.
Or night.
gray apex
It's true
high island
Not having been fed to my sacred crocodiles is a good quality to have. You should put that on your resume.
stable crown
What is the use of Hades keepsake? Is it any good?
gray apex
What is the use of Hades keepsake? Is it any good?
It gives a Global dmg bonus for like 1.5 sec on Lesser calls, so it's used often for speedrunning
It's viable for other things aswell, it's more that you'd rather force a god you need in Tart and Aspho to get your build going, and in Elysium + Styx you'd rather take a defensive keepsake
stable crown
Ohh.. i didn't know about dmg bonus.. thought it just made you invisible
gray apex
It also boosts your movement speed
stable crown
It's viable for other things aswell, it's more that you'd rather force a god you...
What would you suggest as a good build for getting 30% dmg bonus with the charon keepsake? Closest i have gotten to is 24 with the bow
gray apex
You mean the Thanatos Butterfly?
potent fulcrum
When you drop Bouldy but then Tisiphone changes the chamber and all your stuff is out of bounds 🥲
gray apex
What would you suggest as a good build for getting 30% dmg bonus with the charon...
Try Charged Skewer Guan Yu or Hestia with Tidal Dash and take your time
You could also try Zeus Shield, since your Special can do all the dmg and you can focus on blocking and dodging
Although I'd say the first two are easier
twin thistle
just use ze hestia
stable crown
Charged skewer? I'll try it out. I always skipped charged attack upgrades for some reason they seem slow and unfit when a lot of enemies are there. I'll try hestia as well.. that was always my least used aspect on the gun too lol. It's just a one shot buff compared to the other three that give a lot more
marsh rivet
Try Charged Skewer Guan Yu or Hestia with Tidal Dash and take your time
Lol might just be me, but I find it nearly impossible to not turn my yolo up to maximum when I have Tidal Dash.
twin thistle
charged skewer doesnt really slow down your guan yu special since it already takes a awhile to throw. you can also do a partial charge and itll be faster
stable crown
This last run with the gun i picked up 5 shot missile special + Poseidon special boon + the dmg boost from slamming into barrier and splash. It was a one hit special with like consistent dmg in 1000's
marsh rivet
charged skewer doesnt really slow down your guan yu special since it already tak...
It counterintuitively does the exact opposite. You can throw spears faster with Charged Skewer
The minimum charge is significantly shorter than the normal animation time for special
celest shell
Lol I hadn't played in months and realized I stopped playing right in the middle of a run
whole comet
when it comes to max heat
i c the unseed 62 guy uses meg keepsake for more dmg
seems like the best choice, if you're good at avoiding dmg?
lone kernel
i c the unseed 62 guy uses meg keepsake for more dmg
Kill dudes faster they have less time to kill you 
twin thistle
well more like at 62 heat youre constantly at under 35% health and meg is a reliable source of damage
and you gotta deal with td3 with literally everything else so you kinda need the damage
raw herald
And because you have no build, +40ish % is more valuable
whole comet
even if someone could no damage all the time get than keepsake bonus dmg all the time
marsh rivet
seems like the best choice, if you're good at avoiding dmg?
Skull Earring is very very good in general
Not just at close to max heat
whole comet
assuming with skull earring u just purposely get to low hp at chamber 1 or 2
marsh rivet
The idea being that your own Stubborn Defiances put you in the Earring window
whole comet
skull earring might still give u a faster run overall?
butterfly needs time to build up more % dmg
whole comet
while skull pretty much can be active almost the whole run
marsh rivet
butterfly needs to be on for multiple biomes, yeah, and you are just going to get hit in BP2 FO2 rooms, it's kind of inevitable
whole comet
just wonder, hypothetically speaking
twin thistle
generally its better to just use god keepsakes for consistency
whole comet
would skull always do better than butterfly
twin thistle
62 heat is a special place
whole comet
even if u manage to gain butterfly bonus all the room
marsh rivet
But with AP2, even Athena keepsake in Asphodel loses a lot of value. If your damage is a lot of non attack or special damage, then Earring gives you a solid chunk of global damage
gray apex
Butterfly is unreliable
whole comet
generally its better to just use god keepsakes for consistency
well, i'm kinda assuming your run manages to get ur desired boon without god keepsake
and able to stick with either meg or than keepsake the entire run
twin thistle
idk about the whole run for meg
marsh rivet
You need the damage more in the beginning of the run than at the end as well
twin thistle
starting aspho maybe
in tart you kinda just wont get hit enough
and like
high confidence exists
marsh rivet
For instance, Earring is a natural fit for a Shackle start run that gets a boon it can't get rid of
whole comet
can butterfly build up infinite?
twin thistle
well
marsh rivet
no? There's finite rooms lol
twin thistle
youre kinda limited by chambers
gray apex
whole comet
well, i mean, assuming u no damage all room
strong ridge
not my hades
whole comet
u can get like 40% right?
marsh rivet
something like that yeah
strong ridge
well it also needs god tier play to see the big numbers
conversely megs rewards not that specifically
gray apex
Butterfly good for memeing
whole comet
Thorn of Thanatos
Get 30% bonus damage with the Pierced Butterfly
strong ridge
ya
whole comet
luckily it's just Steam, not end game message
could be hard to no damage 15 rooms on 32 heat?
strong ridge
hazard bomb eros will get u good
twin thistle
just skip fo2 and bp2
chrome wharf
If you don't take TD and FO and use a ranged weapon you can slowly kite
whole comet
no damage on boss too lol
chrome wharf
Esp if you get Demeter on a ranged attack
twin thistle
yeah
twin thistle
tart can be like 13 encounters if you get a skippable midshop and no fountains
and take no chaos
whole comet
ic
chrome wharf
Does Erebus count as a room
twin thistle
should
whole comet
yeah i think so
chrome wharf
that almost sounds like a "duh obvs" question lol
twin thistle
could get 14 room in tart then
whole comet
only if u get an erebus offer b4 boss
twin thistle
room 12 is the pre boss shop room so add one erebus there and boss
stable crown
When does patroculus drop message for Achilles? I am on my 95th run and thats the only quest left now
whole comet
did u reunite Orpheus and Eura yet?
stable crown
Yeah.. they dont accept anymore. Ach no longer gives ! , Pat does but it's been going on for 10+ runs
whole comet
well u gotta expire all their dialogues
stable crown
Hmm.. guess I'll speedrun them for a few runs till i get pat. Is there any specific chamber number thay patroculus appears in?
whole comet
u can check the codex too
if both got to the point of asking u to deepen their relationship, then u should be close
if they still have the "talk to them" with a counter, then gotta deal with that one first
spare tiger
Yeah.. they dont accept anymore. Ach no longer gives ! , Pat does but it's been ...
Has Patroclus said to risk it all yet?
And have you freed Sisyphus as well as Orpheus?
stable crown
And have you freed Sisyphus as well as Orpheus?
Yes
stable crown
Has Patroclus said to risk it all yet?
I don't remember
spare tiger
Thats one of the last lines in their story
halcyon girder
I beated my record of 20 minutes to 19 minutes
whole comet
It’s pretty fun to see deathless runners got annihilated by armor shield guys lol
modern pollen
imma try max heat with god mode on to see how far i get
wait can god mode cap out or can i just keep going until i don't take damage
modern pollen
damn
brisk trail
Also it would be non-hell mode max heat
modern pollen
the a button is gonna be destroyed
brisk trail
Because god mode is disabled in hell mode
modern pollen
yeah i haven't tried out hell mode i was gonna wait till i got to the epilogue
chrome wharf
Max heat with god mode on is the same as HL1 with maxed everything else
twin thistle
is god mode multiplicative with hl though
hardy geode
Beat the game without a boon but didn’t get the 100% Olympian free title lol
Instead I got the boon purger one
twin thistle
when 100% olympian free doesnt have clear message priority 
hardy geode
It’s annoying because you also need to make sure you don’t over 400 health, go to all 3 story rooms/ midshops, and don’t have over 1000 obols
twin thistle
my 40 heat hestia olympian free was replaced by minotaurs toughness
hardy geode
That sucks
modern pollen
is god mode multiplicative with hl though <:thanthink:669246004142538753>
hl?
twin thistle
hard labor
modern pollen
oh
rigid stag
whats youre guys fave weapon?
modern pollen
exagryph but varatha is a close second
kind swan
Hera Bow for me
modern pollen
coronacht is just too clunky for me this game goes so fast for you to just stand there and wait for the bow to charge up
the hera detonation is pretty good tho
chrome wharf
base bow based bow
twin thistle
idk. aspect wise sword:nemesis, spear:guan yu achilles, shield: beowulf, bow: zag/hera/rama, fists:demeter/gilga, rail: eris/hestia
modern pollen
<:thanthink:669246004142538753> idk. aspect wise sword:nemesis, spear:~~guan yu~...
aspect of hestia is kinda busted combined with deadly flourish
twin thistle
hestia special aint any better than eris'?
arty special with clockets/hazard bomb is cool though. still moreso for eris
well maybe not hazard for eris
modern pollen
i use hazard bomb a lot so eris doesn't really work for my build
chrome wharf
is god mode multiplicative with hl though <:thanthink:669246004142538753>
good question, might test sometimes
fast willow
hestia special aint any better than eris'?
its worse than eris
twin thistle
tbh id prolly go aphro special for hazard hestia for the consistency. well unless i get rush delivery/chaos flourishes
vapid narwhal
think god mode is applied last to the final damage you take
so an 20 damage attack is 40 under HL5, and would be just down to 8 under a max out god mode?
gray apex
I think so
craggy pumice
Is chain shot good on Rama?
devout terrace
Not too beneficial
Almost any other hammer is better
But it technically doesnt do nothing
Same with any other bow actually
vapid narwhal
I like chain shot on zag bow if I didnt get twin or point blank
for Rama not very useful
rapid forum
yea same
gray apex
Chain shot Zag bow is nice
devout terrace
I had it in my zag bow 50 clear because of AP2 crossing out perfect and flurry while I had twin
spare tiger
whats youre guys fave weapon?
Rama and Guan Yu are a lot of fun
But then again Spear is always fun
rapid forum
whats youre guys fave weapon?
Achilles and zag bow
marsh rivet
Rama and Zoos.
It feels bad to exclude Chiron, kind of like cheating lol, but I honestly don't play it that much anymore.
after Retrash snagged my standing WR with his absurd one-shot AP2 run LOL (it's been since beaten one more time at 53, and there's no way I'm grinding 54 Chiron)
gray apex
dew it
strong ridge
go
gray apex
worth
marsh rivet
I was too demoralized for spending the better part of a couple of weeks to figure out how to make 51 work only for him to take it back in one run a couple of months later ;_;
I am not worthy
gray apex
in one run
marsh rivet
(spoiler: Chiron is kinda stinky lol, these numbers are dumb)
gray apex
Just get the build Painkakke got on his 50
marsh rivet
LOL
Dad.exe could not be found, pls help
Lol, he wasn't even actively trying to beat it. It was just Chiron AotW in speedcord and the record was 51 so he just +1'd and AP2 blessed him with Curse of Nausea Chiron
(it's Retrash so he almost certainly started Coinpurse)
stable dagger
Daily reminder that the only member of the pantheon we should all worship is best girl Artemis, The Goddess of the hunt
modern pollen
Daily reminder that the only member of the pantheon we should all worship is bes...
agreed remember kids your virginity is a valued commodity stay pure -This message was funded by artemis co.
full nexus
I love how the daily reminder is literally daily
strong ridge
its not a spontaneous reminder
full nexus
Prerecorded 👀
devout terrace
sour elk
Excuse me, all of you are spelling Demeter incorrectly
tall panther
how do I go fast with malphon?
modern pollen
what
devout terrace
how do I go fast with malphon?
merciful end
fast willow
who even needs the concept of a best girl when everyone knows who best boulder is
tall panther
I somehow wrote got instead of go
devout terrace
doom on attack, athena on special+dash
fast willow
devout terrace
impending doom at some point
breaching cross>explosive upper>kinetic launcher
god's pride or legacy can work, doom+hermes really important so I'd go pride but its up to you
devout terrace
thats just for every fist
full nexus
Explosive upper Talos 
tall panther
I see
devout terrace
god I wish zeus attack was more viable
but you need like 5-6 zeus boons
which is impossible
tall panther
attack, jolted, extra bounces
devout terrace
attack-jolted-splitting pre req-splitting-billowing/call
devout terrace
smoldering air at some point ig
sour elk
Lightning Strike with Heartbreak Flourish is my personal fav on malphon
devout terrace
Lightning Strike with Heartbreak Flourish is my personal fav on malphon
try demeter with artemis special
its absurdly strong
especially with explosive upper
sour elk
That I shall when I try going for 40 heat on malph!
sour elk
Athena starting is also good
full nexus
Yeah you want to pom doom asap
tall panther
do I ever go chaos?
strong ridge
yes
modern pollen
who even needs the concept of a best girl when everyone knows who best boulder i...
best girl is chaos
sour elk
best girl is chaos
ΗΤΟΙ ΜΕΝ ΠΡΩΤΙΣΤΑ ΧΑΟΣ ΓΕΝΕΤΟ
devout terrace
you get all the good stuff from chaos
high island
The curse that you take damage when using your Special doesn't proc when you do a Dash-Upper, by the way.
devout terrace
and non of the bad stuff
marsh rivet
god I wish zeus attack was more viable
It's not viable for maximum zoomies but for new players ZAP still gonna get the job done fast
devout terrace
dash specials (dash upper and dashing flight)
GET chaos special buffs
DO NOT take damage from chaos special curses
DO get chaos dash strike buffs
DO NOT take damage from chaos attack curses
GET hunter dash buffs
tall panther
k, thanks
high island
"ZAP" on Malphon is so cringe.
modern pollen
ΗΤΟΙ ΜΕΝ ΠΡΩΤΙΣΤΑ ΧΑΟΣ ΓΕΝΕΤΟ
so that means temporarily khaos was best and worst girl
sour elk
Say that line out loud every time you go for a Chaos buff and your primordial auncle will bless you
gray apex
Nice
brisk trail
god i wanna try beowulf so bad, but i hate shield sooooo much
lone kernel
god i wanna try beowulf so bad, but i hate shield sooooo much
try it then! Worst case you die no big deal. Beo has a high learning curve
but it can do like 500 damage a shot with one boon
brisk trail
i have like 3 chaos games under my belt
i've already put a ton of blood into chaos shield so now i'm just waiting for the waking prompt
lone kernel
Word
If you need tips on how to use it (controller remap being the main thing) feel free to give me or this chat a shout 🙂
placid anchor
can curse of pain stack with frost flourish?
vapid narwhal
You can only have one core boon on special
frigid fossil
how many childs i have to sacrifice to an altar for hypnos relationship to unlock?
vapid narwhal
It tells you that if you choose another the previous one will be replaced
clever thicket
How does Alecto gain rage? Can I do anything to prevent it?
full nexus
Nope
She can charge it with an attack or whenever she takes damage
And then in her last phase, permanent rage
The attack being the one that emits projectiles in a star pattern
clever thicket
So basically just try and kill her asap
full nexus
Yeah
clever thicket
Aight, thanks
Also, is there a specific thing that I need to have done before I unlock fishing, or is it just completely random?
full nexus
I only remember you can buy the rod at the contactor
I think you should just keep playing, nothing hard to unlock
clever thicket
Yeah guess ur right
started a new save on that hard difficulty (forgot what it's called, the one that starts you on 5 heat)
full nexus
Probably requires something to buy first like a Tartarus upgrade. Maybe reaching the last biome too
Yeah it's hell mode
clever thicket
Definitely lives up to it's name ;p
What about unlocking aspects? atm the menu to spend titans blood's doesn't show up
twin thistle
What about unlocking aspects? atm the menu to spend titans blood's doesn't show ...
unlock all weapons first. so just farm keys
full nexus
Pinned in #h1-story-discussion
wary cypress
Oooh which?
full otter
thanks
i'm pretty sure you have to catch soon enough or you can't get a legendary fish, but even if you do it's not guaranteed
full otter
yeah exactly
wary cypress
Ahhh... Ok
lone kernel
If you’re on switch use joycons for perfect catch easier (literally only hold right one and close your eyes and hit trigger when it buzzes)
wary cypress
Hahaha yeah I'm on the Switch Lite
I try to listen out for the audio cue
I just wish the fishing points would appear more often (I have only ever gotten Poseidon's legendary once)
lone kernel
Yeah you need sunken treasure or oceans bounty for it to pop and odds are you don’t take those lol
wary cypress
Yeah LOL
I mean I want to finish the run so I probably won't really pick them. Haha..
whole comet
u prolly would only do it when that run is more focus on completing the fish codex and purposely go for that
full otter
yeah
full otter
also if you're going for a run for darkness and gems if you haven't maxed out your upgrades yet
whole comet
but well, you're welcome to do it on 32 heat i guess? XD
wary cypress
I mean will the fish still be in the codex?
whole comet
once u fish, u can't quit until u enter the next room
twin thistle
Will the run still count if you quit midway?
if you dont pause and press the quit button, it likely wont save
whole comet
u could only give up at that point, which loses all ur progress
wary cypress
Right but it won't discount the fact that you got the fish, right?
whole comet
the moment u fish, quit is disabled
twin thistle
yeah give up just throws your current run away as if you havent started it
wary cypress
Ahhh
twin thistle
you can just quit at the beginning of the next chamber
wary cypress
Ohhh right
twin thistle
if you just no hit bosses you can quit too lol
whole comet
well the acorn trick, i wonder if that's an oversight
wary cypress
What's the acorn trick again? Just have it so that you don't get any hits? Then quit?
whole comet
in short, since acorn prevents u to take damage, u can still quit safely after taking 5 hit, and restart the boss fight
so, if you have a bad start at boss fight, u could just restart and retry
whole comet
well, i suppose it's not an exploit
twin thistle
in the end its a single player game
wary cypress
Yeah
whole comet
pretty much
thorny wyvern
does anyone remember what the trigger is for a god to say "what" when you pick up a boon from them?
whole comet
though, the save file thing did require u to do things not in game
so a bit... out of the line
clever thicket
Anyone got a good build for Coronacht/Aspect of Chiron?
signal aspen
heartbreak strike start
then take either arty special or dio special
whatever comes first
then get the duo boons
twin thistle
so a bit... out of the line
its literally just a time saver
olive goblet
Pimp chimpin
signal aspen
yeah
twin thistle
yes
clever thicket
It does :O
wary cypress
Has anyone used Charm on redacted before? I love it when I have a bad build but is close to winning. XD
marsh rivet
then take either arty special or dio special
One of the reasons I really dislike doing this is because of how good early poms are on Hangover boons. But yeah it's a possible route to take.
twin thistle
just get dio room 3. ez
marsh rivet
So yeah in both situations I'd prefer to start with the special boon, even if it's less flexible as a result. Both resulting builds end up better.
Fwiw Deadly Flourish also poms incredibly well
twin thistle
a bit easier to get the duos faster with heartbreak strike start though
since nat arty or dio in tart lets you have the prereqs right away when you swap keepsakes in aspho
marsh rivet
Yeah but heavy poms on Hangover is better than a duo boon
twin thistle
yeah thats true too
ig also starting their keepsakes means a better chance for it to be rare
marsh rivet
Also Deadly/Drunken Flourish starts let you kind of happenstance into surprisingly effective builds. E.g. Lightning Strike + Jolted + Lightning Rod With Deadly Flourish.
The normal equity you get from Smoldering Air with Chiron is cut because Chiron's god gauge generation is already dummy thicc
frigid fossil
Seriously does anyone know how to unlock hypnos heart?
He is the last one I have to complete
twin thistle
Seriously does anyone know how to unlock hypnos heart?
get killed by asterius and theseus a lot basically. also btw theres a wiki
frigid fossil
get killed by asterius and theseus a lot basically. ~~also btw theres a wiki~~
Oh is the autograph a part of the quest?
signal aspen
no
frigid fossil
Nevermind it says it is not required.
twin thistle
wait a sec thats the autograph
hypnos' heart is just from talking to him a lot
and seeing him talk to than and hades
frigid fossil
Im at the point that he was commended from hades for his good work. But still it doesnt trigger the dialogue to unlovk
narrow hemlock
you need more dialogue
the heart wont unlock until zagreus talks to him again
generally rule of thumb is if a thing isnt unlocking yet, there is still more you need to see
whole comet
when u start seeing Hades and Than start praising Hypnos, then you're close
last veldt
Took ages for me
whole comet
well, hades and than have unique dialogues too
narrow hemlock
it is one of the longest ones to finish out i think, purely because of how much back and forth conversation is involved that relies on having thanatos at the house
whole comet
so the dialogue pools are big
marsh rivet
Smoldering Air is a good one to learn with. Heartbreak Strike.
karmic turret
rama is a good wep right? guess i should ask that first
i was inbetween this and arthurs sword
marsh rivet
It's got a huge learning curve, and there's a lot to the aspect, so I'd recommend trying it out for a while first to see how it feels
high island
Rama is one of the very best.
marsh rivet
Most important step 1 is get a feel for powershot timing
Your general approach to rooms would be to special as many enemies as you can convently then fire a power shot into either the beefiest enemy or into multiple enemies
modern garnet
Rama + explosive shot my beloved
marsh rivet
That's... ill advised lol.
modern garnet
If you hit multiple enemies with a power shot you do get big big damage
Don't do explosive shot rama on your FIRST rama run
marsh rivet
Explosive can be fun with triple but it just doesn't doesn't do that much by itself. You lose Rama's power shot, and its intrinsic pierce (which lets you hit multiple targets a lot more consistently than explosive)
high island
You don't lose the Power Shot, though. You can still power-shoot.
marsh rivet
You'll need a time machine to see the end of it though
high island
Explosive Shot Power Shots honestly aren't too difficult to do with FO0.
Since thankfully your enemies also move in slow motion.
karmic turret
im not the best with power shots so far
whole comet
lol FO2 XD
karmic turret
is arthur easier to use for beginners?
high island
Dash-Strike Power Shots to be exact.
I don't think Rama is that difficult, but Excalibur allows for a lot of mistakes. Very tanky.
marsh rivet
im not the best with power shots so far
It's a process. The aspect really needs it to function properly.
high island
Well, you can still win pretty easily without ever getting the Power Shot timing right and still do good damage. But Power Shots are definitely better.
twin thistle
rama is pog for high heat
but tryna powershot with fo2 usually doesnt turn out well
high island
I'd suggest you try to land them as much as you can, but don't fuss over it when you don't get one. You'll get there with practice.
marsh rivet
Lol I don't have the time or energy to go into the full argument but it's pretty frustrating I think to imply Rama isn't that hard in general because you personally didn't find it that difficult. You end up alienating the very large number of people who are currently having difficulties with it, across a lot of skill levels.
The aspect is demonstrably difficult. It's easy for you. There's a difference.
lone kernel
git gud with rama: spam a status on special, go pew pew
practice on skelly a bit
the dash strike timing is different from regular zag bow
high island
The difficulty you're referring to comes at like 40+ with FO2 etc. That has zero relevance for newer players at lower Heats.
Excalibur is one of the easiest to win with, but that doesn't mean Rama is particularly difficult to learn compared to other aspects.
The aspect is demonstrably difficult.
Except you can't actually demonstrate or prove it. It's fine to have a difference of opinion, but maybe don't try to make it sound like anything more than that.
marsh rivet
I mean clearly the opinion of dozens of people who've all shared this opinion over and over again only for you to indirectly belittle their efforts and skill level by claiming the aspect is easy because you think it's easy don't matter. So yeah. Can't demonstrate it.
high island
I've never belittled anyone's efforts or skill level.
marsh rivet
That's not your choice to make!
high island
marsh rivet
I am saying, right now, that it feels like your belittling my efforts because I still think Rama is incredibly difficult to play. For me.
high island
I said literally nothing about your skill or effort, though.
There's no such implication, either. You're misinterpreting me.
Anyway, it's derailing the chat.
high island
Might have to reset for it or just do a couple runs to hopefully find it, yeah.
high island
That's what I would do, yeah.
celest shell
I'm just glad I'm feeling comfortable with every weapon now
The rail/sword were my weaknesses but now I like them too
high island
Maybe start Passion Dash, then if you find Spread Fire, you can just pick up Deadly Strike and Heart Rend, but if you don't find it, you can still pivot into Lightning Strike + Smoldering Air or Drunken Strike + Low Tolerance or something.
Tidal Dash with Spread Fire can be a bit annoying.
strong ridge
aprho rocket cluster funny
brisk trail
bruh what the hell the furies fight with heat on the bosses is all 3 sisters? 💀
twin thistle
more like one with the others using support abilities
tis in support is pretty annoying when facing alecto tbh
strong ridge
sometimes they do triple team i think
rapid forum
should I get Curse of Longing beside ME?
strong ridge
400 coin so
twin thistle
good money not good damage
lone kernel
should I get Curse of Longing beside ME?
If you don’t have a better option or are feeling lucky at your friendly neighborhood purging pool
rapid forum
the options were Dire misfortune and battle rage
I was using zag sword
I got longing anyway
just cause
lone kernel
fast willow
is it just me or is the hitbox on guan yu special way bigger than its visual indicator
high island
It's much wider, yes.
full nexus
is it just me or is the hitbox on guan yu special way bigger than its visual ind...
Yes, it's really useful to hit enemies or even dad from a certain safe angle
peak zealot
OMG. I finally did it team. I spent about a hundred runs chasing this build and finally got the nuts blade dash build. I don't think I've ever seen hades die so fast. Build below. Sorry for brags, but I have to post this somewhere:
- aspect of gilgamesh
- rare blade dash lvl 16
- rare engulfing vortex
- rare black metal lvl 6
- epic greatest reflex (+3 dash)
- epic rush delivery (+100% damage)
- common hyper sprint
You have no idea how hard it is to get 3 specific hermes boons with reasonable rarity
gray apex
Perfect Hermes Havent seen one of those in 20 years
eternal marlin
OMG. I finally did it team. I spent about a hundred runs chasing this build and ...
Grats! For future reference though, there's a channel literally called #h1-victory-boasting
peak zealot
fair
rigid stag
heya peeps! how are ya today?
timid dew
Hey there. Do I need to upgrade the blade to unlock Arthur's aspect? And do I need to give nectar to Nyx too?
eternal marlin
Hey there. Do I need to upgrade the blade to unlock Arthur's aspect? And do I ne...
Look here: #h1-story-discussion message
gray apex
Hey there. Do I need to upgrade the blade to unlock Arthur's aspect? And do I ne...
Check the pinned messages in #h1-story-discussion
Yea that one
timid dew
Check the pinned messages in <#521035166471159828>
Oh ok thx, I was afraid that contained spoilers
I've only just done my first escape
tall panther
yo, If I just share the profile#.sav with my friends, will I and my friends have the same start of a run?
or do I have to share the temp too?
tall panther
k, thanks
high island
But if their last save on that profile was mid-run, they'll have to load that profile and "Give Up" once to basically tell the game to load the permanent save next time.
tall panther
can I just change the name of profile1.sav to profile4.sav and will that work?
high island
Yeah.
tall panther
I doubt they have anything on save 4, but I will ask them once we all are ready(I guess some of them will need a bit of help loading the save)
high island
They might have to create a profile 4 first by starting a new game in order to load your save, not sure. I've had four profiles for so long now.
tall panther
I'll check I guess
I never made a fourth profile
so it should stay truthful
it works
grizzled needle
What can I do after beating the game?
marsh rivet
Continue beating the game but harder/faster/better/stronger
With different builds/aspects.
main stratus
Continue beating the game but harder/faster/better/stronger
our/work/is/never/over
halcyon girder
I finally beated maxed out Extreme measures
lone kernel
What can I do after beating the game?
high heat sweaty tryhard?
try to clear every weapon with meme beams?
do epilogue
see a victory screen and think that sounds nifty, imma try that
If youre finishing with multiple defiances left, you can add heat
You can play another game
You can compose some fanfics
There is all of the options 
fast willow
There is all of the options <a:vibecat:803006791956430858>
no
you didnt list the most important option
which is talking to bouldy
fast willow
i thought they were lady aphrodite's crocodiles
halcyon girder
Yeah my mistake I tried 3 extreme measures with the last spear of vagratha I think that's how you spell it
full nexus
Varatha
full nexus
it's the name of the spear though
full nexus
yeah, painful when not maxed
halcyon girder
Yeah but it damage is good
lone kernel
Yeah, it’s a glass cannon
I think it was designed with the spin attack to heal being used a lot but the meta shifted to charged skewer go brr
tall panther
died on the fists, What I didn't expect, But I Didn't expect to win on them either
lone kernel
is coo you can try again
tall panther
is coo you can try again
it's a race
actually all of us died on fists
so we will most likely redo it
tbh I wasn't expecting fists
lone kernel
Epilogue?
after you get 10 clears and do some other stuff, persephone gives u another quest
lone kernel
it's a race
oh word thats coo
grizzled needle
after you get 10 clears and do some other stuff, persephone gives u another ques...
Like with the heat things or just in general clears
tall panther
overall, the first batch of the race went decent
but the first run was a disaster
all of us died
a random entered the vc and started screaming that we're a disgrace
had to move to the vc for the usuals only
god was it scuffed
lone kernel
yeah people can be toxic for no reason on the internet
tall panther
it was definetly a 14 years old
last veldt
Damn RNG gave me epic Zeus special on Chiron in the 2nd chamber and then I didn't see another Zeus boon until Elysium!!
I was looking forward to a full on lightning run and ended up with some mashup of Zeus, Artemis and Aires
clever thicket
What Eurydice food should I take in which situations? And why?
brisk trail
What Eurydice food should I take in which situations? And why?
if you have few boons, take the first one
twin thistle
you want to pretty much always take refreshing nectar
brisk trail
typically if you're gunning for a specific upgrade, you may not luck out
usually i take nectar in case i haven't yet seen hermes or i'm gunning for a duo
twin thistle
in addition to increasing the minimum rarity of boons to rare which is very good for hermes, it increases the chance for duos/legendaries
brisk trail
in addition to increasing the minimum rarity of boons to rare which is very good...
hah we had the exact same advice
high island
Feeding myself to <@311477984886521856>’s crocodiles now
You don't get to choose what my sacred crocodiles eat.
They're sacred.
lone kernel
They’ve eaten me like 7 times already
tall panther
oh god
that reminded me of a cursed article
I read online
about 3 african brothers
stable dagger
Daily reminder that the pure heart of the Goddess Artemis is the only thing that can save our sinful souls
signal aspen
cool
brisk trail
loll i tried 16 heat and got absolutely destroyed
lone kernel
loll i tried 16 heat and got absolutely destroyed
There’s a heat progression guide pinned in high heat thread I think
signal aspen
have you tried not getting destroyed?
brisk trail
i went from 5 to 8 to 16
lone kernel
Would you like tips on optimal 16 heat loadouts
brisk trail
i chose the legendary over hunting blades and it screwed me over
signal aspen
whats your pact?
lone kernel
i chose the legendary over hunting blades and it screwed me over
Yeah if you’re running a blade rift build you need hunting blades. It’s a lesson
brisk trail
and the magma soo annoying i really hate em 2
lone kernel
you’re learning how to scale your heat; it takes practice like anything
@brisk trail how comfortable are you with tight deadlines
lone kernel
Word what else is on your pact
brisk trail
wait let me see
wwit i gained an authority i wasnt listening
what is rank advancement
lone kernel
Late game thing to spend your house of hades money on after you bought everything
Darkness gems etc
brisk trail
Word what else is on your pact
im using hard labour 2
lasting cons 2
convenience 1
em 2
cali program 1
benefits 1
middle management
tight dead 2
whole comet
CP1 u prolly wanna replace it
twin thistle
cp is not gud
whole comet
i suggest u might as well do EM3 now
gray apex
Underworld customs is easy to deal with aswell
lone kernel
HL2 LC2 is not ideal - way easier to stick to one or the other. You’re probably also a little too early for LC4 and stubborn defiance, but that’s an option. Customs isn’t bad, and benefits package prob wouldn’t be the worst either
twin thistle
yeah can do customs and get rid of cf and cp
brisk trail
do u need maxed out spear too?
twin thistle
wdym?
brisk trail
like maxed aspect
whole comet
not
twin thistle
makes it easier but not needed
brisk trail
sometimes i use the bow too but like heart rend is kinda not bad but
i seem to barely crit
and the arrows fly into the wall
twin thistle
zag bow?
brisk trail
i also accidently took chain shot once and it completely ruined it haha
oh no i meant seeking special one
twin thistle
oh chiron
twin thistle
chiron fully upgraded? its not as great with artemis special without being lvl 4 or 5
also tbh the aspect is rather hammer dependent
gray apex
If it's low level try Low Tolerance isntead
twin thistle
not having concentrated volley makes a pretty big difference
brisk trail
i prefer spear really its my favourite weapon
lone kernel
i prefer spear really its my favourite weapon
Get Achilles leveled as high as you can. Start Poseidon keepsake, take tidal dash. Spam special and attack, hammers prioritize flurry jab and Zeus attack if it pops up, or alternatively you can take a cast (ares or Demeter) and then force artemis in asphodel to get the homing one which if you use after Achilles raging rush, does 2.5x damage from base (so meme beams do 22 per tick rather than 10 or whatever
If you mean guan yu, learn other weapons first, the health penalty is pretty severe to deal with while pushing heat
whole comet
I think Achilles cannot learn explosive shot, right?
It’s a be of the strongest hammer upgrade
twin thistle
only zag and hades have explosive launcher
well that was a bit disappointing
only like 1.2k a big stacked doom
dont mind the 52 rerolls
chrome wharf
strong ridge
only like 1.2k a big stacked doom
should’ve went PP
strong ridge
brillant repost
twin thistle
think i might try merciful end
strong ridge
yayaya
covert knoll
lone kernel
I think Achilles cannot learn explosive shot, right?
It can’t but it has raging rush which is super good
By default
Flurry jab Achilles slaps
whole comet
btw, when u tp with achilles special, u're immune, right?
deft bolt
hey guys
whats a good build for aspect of beowulf
i'm currently using aphro's cast
is there anything better?
last veldt
That's pretty good
gray apex
Flood Flare Mirage Shot
twin thistle
whats a good build for aspect of beowulf
generally in lower heats we use mirage shot since a. it has the biggest aoe and b. its a prereq for mirage shot
last veldt
I also like Trippy Flair because it deals less damage but in a wide area. The big downside is that you don't get casts back as fast most off the time.
twin thistle
trippy flare has double pom scaling so it probably does more damage
though trippy is rather inconsistent since you need a lot of stuff to make it work
last veldt
Though you typically don't want to load all 3 into it at once
Or you end up a bit starved
gray apex
Yes with Trippy you go Stygian and look for Chaos instead
twin thistle
with trippy you mostly want to use stygian soul and get extra casts
last veldt
Good point
twin thistle
otherwise its really not worth
deft bolt
Flood Flare Mirage Shot
which boon for arthemis do you prefer for the mirage shot? Special or attack?
gray apex
Attack
twin thistle
tbh doesnt matter that much but you pretty much never use special anyways
deft bolt
yea lmao
twin thistle
can be better to just grab like aphro or athena attack since higher damage without having to crit
deft bolt
i managed to win my first run with beowulf without the faster charge, with 3 aphro cast
dealing 1k dmg
last veldt
You can reserve special for support like Dionysus or Aeries
twin thistle
but artemis attack can enable some hunters mark stuff which can give some big numbers but its better to go for pressure points and support fire for fully loaded
last veldt
Yeah I mostly get Artemis for access to Hunter's Mark
deft bolt
so i should be using poseidon's Flood Flare and arthemis's attack boon, and get the duo boon mirage shot?
gray apex
Yup
last veldt
That would work
twin thistle
poseidon start
gray apex
Poseidon Start yea
twin thistle
then arty
elysium/styx you can go either tooth/acorn/collar for safety or sigil/hourglass/purse
deft bolt
i change to arthemis in asphodele right?
twin thistle
ye
deft bolt
oh rlly
where does the casts apply tho
where the shots land or where you stand?
cuz last run i didnt take that hammer because i didnt know what it did with beowulf
deft bolt
ah ok
and also
would poseidon's cast knock the enemies away from the whole damage area or whatever you call it?
or do you use the single cast with less recharge time
gray apex
Nah, the cast doesn’t actually knock enemies back on this aspect
So loading all your casts is fine
They would all hit
gray apex
Yes
deft bolt
ya its rlly good
gray apex
Mirage Shot is also bugged on Beo
The second projectile does 100% of the dmg instead of 30%
deft bolt
lmao
gray apex
So just getting those 3 boons with a lot of poms on the cast would be good enough dmg for bosses honestly