Aphros legendary is the thing that makes enemies fall in love with you when you weaken them right?
#h1-discussion
heady cypress
mint coral
15% chance of charm when using weak inflicting effects
marsh rivet
fall in love is... a fine way of thinking about it I guess, just keep in mind you can Unhealthily Fixate your daddy
heady cypress
My Humor is broken was shooting at skelly and then I ran out of ammo but I kept shooting it made me laugh for some reason
heady cypress
15% chance of charm when using weak inflicting effects
ZagXHades ship will finally become true
mint coral
charming theseus when he goes into 2nd phase and asterius is still alive is so fun tbh
the call just destroys asterius
heady cypress
charming theseus when he goes into 2nd phase and asterius is still alive is so f...
Wait that works? 
marsh rivet
Charming Asterius can sometimes instaphase Theseus lol
heady cypress
the call just destroys asterius
Poor bull
heady cypress
Charming Asterius can sometimes instaphase Theseus lol
What if you just charm both of them?
Will they attack each other or is friendly fire disabled
marsh rivet
Good fanart
mint coral
charmed enemies dont attack each other afaik?
heady cypress
Good fanart
I don't want to see more than I already had to
mint coral
i dont remember tbh
marsh rivet
UwU astewius sempai notices your axe
gray apex
👀
marsh rivet
It's a hard tossup if I hate double butterflies or double sneaks more
I guess it depends on aspect. I'm losing either way if it's Rama
heady cypress
2nd em4 fight of the day that summons double butterfly ball
I had to kill 4 shielders in his first phase
After getting 3 duo and 2 legendary boons lol
marsh rivet
"No way, awesome, I got to EM4 with 2 DDs, Patty Buff, and Triple + Point Blank. Oh, double butterflies, I guess I should uninstall."
mint coral
I guess it depends on aspect. I'm losing either way if it's Rama
the "you are not charging your bow" combo 
marsh rivet
You know, I really didn't need more than 10 effective HP from my Acorn anyway
marsh rivet
It's soooo sick though if you can take Acorn into phase 2+
Tooth feels utterly pointless, also the DD bug is kind of killer.
And has happened to me, and ended good 50+ runs at least twice
mint coral
DD bug?
marsh rivet
If you pick Tooth while you have a DD (and Stubborn Defiance active), it's actually pretty likely that from then on, one of your DDs will appear like a second Stubborn Defiance, until you lose it, then it's just gone forever.
I also learned from experimentation that this applies to future DDs you get in Styx lol
Or wherever
(after you picked Tooth)
reef zodiac
No the point is to increase the damage of trippy shot 
heady cypress
Never considered doing high heat cuz I still don't have 100%
What exactly happens to the lernie fight?
heady cypress
No the point is to increase the damage *of* trippy shot <:gorbbrain:725954288005...
Everything sounds smart when you put gorb next to it
gray apex
I'm just awful at the Lernie fight
reef zodiac
Everything sounds smart when you put gorb next to it
Ascend with Gorb
heady cypress
I can't beat em2 without losing dd's most of the time so I can relate to that
reef zodiac
I'm just awful at the Lernie fight
Lernie is pretty easy with Lucifer imo. Especially lightning strike Lucifer with jolted
I’m bad at Lernie too, don’t worry
heady cypress
Ascend with Gorb <:gorbbrain:725954288005677056>
Here lies gorb the great mind or what was it again?
reef zodiac
Here lies gorb the great mind or what was it again? <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
Something like that
marsh rivet
The Tooth bug: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/955987794?filter=highlights&sort=time (I talk about Zeus aspect for like a minute, but look at DDs at the beginning, then at 1:24)
heady cypress
Lernie is pretty easy with Lucifer imo. Especially lightning strike Lucifer with...
That's exactly what I was using one run ago
reef zodiac
Yeah it’s optimal
reef zodiac
The Tooth bug: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/955987794?filter=highlights&sort=tim...
I can’t watch that right now but can I guess? You lost tooth already, and when you unequip it it steals your Athena DD on the way out?
That’s happened to me but it steals my Stubborn Defiance, which is not an issue
marsh rivet
No, I entered the mid-biome area with an Athena DD, then I take Tooth. I now appear to have Tooth + 2 SDs. But if I lose any SD, it's just gone forever.
reef zodiac
marsh rivet
(your "second", or normal SD operates as usual)
reef zodiac
Weird
marsh rivet
It's pretty consistent. I would never recommend taking tooth with an Athena/Chaos DD if you have SD active
marsh rivet
we pestered Amir about it for a while but it never saw a fix, we only discovered it post 1.0
random kestrel
I just became a gun main, the bow is just less fun
marsh rivet
While people were trying to figure out EM4, Tooth in Styx became a lot more popular (Spearpoint is probably preferable now in most situations, and Acorn is still alright)
Lol, I say "trying to figure out EM4" like it's past tense. Nope.
reef zodiac
Why spearpoint? Seems fine in phase 1 but after that’s it’s truly terrible, no?
random kestrel
I use collar in Styx because of the death defiances give more health with a total of 125, plus there's a lower chance you'll die in the satyr tunnels
marsh rivet
Works well against lasers, or his skull skull yeet combo, or getting hit by a wave into random garbage. And yeah it's amazing in phase 1
reef zodiac
I use collar in Styx because of the death defiances give more health with a tota...
It’s +75
Unless you have 5 DDs
Oh wait
twin thistle
oh wait
reef zodiac
I’m dumb lmao
random kestrel
Well it's +50, and then +75
reef zodiac
Yeah
reef zodiac
No I’m wrong 
random kestrel
Np
marsh rivet
Collar is fine until you have Hard Labor enabled, at which point Acorn is just going to save you a ton more life pretty much no matter what
reef zodiac
Yeah
random kestrel
Wait so hades' next heart has a lock symbol on it, but I can never gift hades anything
reef zodiac
And also I’d rather have a 100 health DD than 125 more health over my three DDs
marsh rivet
"pretty much no matter what" also includes EM4 lol, where Acorn charges are more of a... suggestion
random kestrel
Wait so hades' next heart has a lock symbol on it, but I can never gift hades an...
How do i
marsh rivet
Keep playing :3
twin thistle
Wait so hades' next heart has a lock symbol on it, but I can never gift hades an...
need to get to end credits aka 10 clears
chrome wharf
As I quote reddit: you need to kill him a few more times
reef zodiac
heady cypress
Oh we have a grub here?
chrome wharf
I used to be a grub too
reef zodiac
Oh we have a grub here?
No
heady cypress
Does attack speed affect reloading speed?
marsh rivet
Also doesn't affect dash strikes on bow for some reason. Only standing attacks lol
heady cypress
Nvm then
Wanted to use it for hestia
Didn't expect that many messages when I searched for "very gay" to find a certain conversation
marsh rivet
lol wuh
heady cypress
Try it.
marsh rivet
Lol, the search results are pretty lit. More entertaining than I expected
heady cypress
I like this one
"Yeah it's normal in greece to have a woman to procreate with... And a very, very close guy friend that you bone sometimes"
Just a couple of messages above the first result
chrome wharf
Now gimme geo
You gotta go to the grandpa not me
heady cypress
Wait you didn't eat the kids-
marsh rivet
"Yeah it's normal in greece to have a woman to procreate with... And a very, ver...
I love the creative sidestepping of traditional descriptions of the Achilles/Patty story. Same thing with Odysseus and his himbo
Also starts with a P... can't remember
whole comet
The Tooth bug: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/955987794?filter=highlights&sort=tim...
at the time the way it happened, it sounds like you didn't notice it XD
marsh rivet
Yeah that was the first time it happened to me. The second time was also on stream, but I channeled my salt into figuring out what would happen if I got another DD while the bug happened lol
whole comet
must feel very strange lol
like, WOAH, what happens to my athena DD?
i got 2 SD, even better!
marsh rivet
My first instinct was "oh god does this run count if I won with two stubborn defiances?"
The answer is, yes, yes it would count, since they were just poopy DDs in disguise lol
The second time the bug happened, after I picked up the Athena DD in styx I think it ate my Tooth LOL
whole comet
not a just visual bug, it looks like it activate ur Athena DD that looks like SD first, if you got healed almost to full
marsh rivet
I left really detailed F10 reports, and tagged Amir in a bunch of posts along with other people who experienced similar. Really sad it's not fixed though.
Tbf it was after the game was basically already done
They were probably already working on Hades 2: Electric Boogaloo
whole comet
prolly better spend time on the next game yeah
heady cypress
What is electric boogaloo
vagrant grove
if there's going to be a "next game"
thick cypress
i mean, hades' story is pretty much finished
reef zodiac
if there's going to *be* a "next game"
Well they’re gonna make a next game. Probably not a Hades sequel though
thick cypress
they could set another game in the same universe, but the question is whether it should have the same full cast and genre
heady cypress
they could set another game in the same universe, but the question is whether it...
You mean smth similar to undertale/deltarune?
heady cypress
i mean, hades' story is pretty much finished
No we didn't get to see aphro and arty ingame yet
thick cypress
You mean smth similar to undertale/deltarune?
i haven't played either of those games so i couldn't say jlksdjfkl
heady cypress
I haven't played them either
Undertale and deltarune are 2 games with the same characters but a different story and a different combat system
Afaik they look pretty much the same tho
thick cypress
oh i wasn't aware! that they had the same protagonist i mean
i love the most recent meme that came out of deltarune, which i cannot post/share because it contains profanities jlskdfj
but i think you know the one i mean
heady cypress
Undertale and deltarune are 2 games with the same characters but a different sto...
MB the combat is pretty similar just checked a deltarune clip
heady cypress
but i think you know the one i mean
Nope
Haven't heard of either of the games in a long time
Does deltarune have more chapters now?
thick cypress
toby fox released a second episode of deltarune a few weeks ago yeah
heady cypress
Nice
thick cypress
and that's where the meme came from of kris and susie being transported into different universes and susie asking kris with the use of several profanities where on earth they are
heady cypress
I'll check the ps4 shop right away while praying that its free
thick cypress
it's only on pc atm but it is free!
heady cypress
Nice
thick cypress
toby fox asked if you do want to chip in some support to buy the ost, but the game itself is free
heady cypress
Bought a PC a couple of weeks ago, it came last week but it was broken I think I'll get it back tomorrow or Wednesday
I'm confused
Searched for deltarune in the ps4 shop didn't find anything
Went into my library and now it's deltarune chapter 1&2 instead of 1?
void vigil
if you want to continue talking about deltarune or undertale this conversation is best continued in #video-games 
whole comet
i mean, hades' story is pretty much finished
Hades could stand on it's own, but when it comes to greek myth, there's a lot of stories that can tell for sure
like, Hercules
kept constant mentioned and even a statue, but not in game
marsh rivet
What is electric boogaloo
It's just a meme used for sequels of things. I was kidding, there's very close to 0% chance their next game is narratively related to Hades at all.
Seeing how far each of the SGG games have departed from each other lol
heady cypress
It's just a meme used for sequels of things. I was kidding, there's very close ...
Yeah searched it up everything I found were WW|| Memes
I love how Chaos straight up asked me to beat daddy up with an egg
marsh rivet
I kind of wish Chaos would ask us to meme on other characters too
Like if Chaos planted the suggestion to take the Yarn of Ariadne into the Heroes fight
heady cypress
The yarn of what
marsh rivet
It's a Well of Charon buff, the rarity one
heady cypress
Why-
whole comet
i believe there's quite a lot of special dialogues
marsh rivet
And centerpiece of the Theseus/Minotaur myth
heady cypress
Oh
mint coral
I love how Chaos straight up asked me to beat daddy up with an egg
when im bored on meme runs i take the egg again even on em4
gotta flex on dad
heady cypress
I have 27 ambrosia and a lvl5 Meg how do you get rid of that stuff
marsh rivet
Ariadne was Asterion's sister, and she was in wuv with Theseus, so she gave him cheatcodes for the labyrinth in the form of magic yarn.
heady cypress
*I also just need 6 more for maxed bonds with everyone
heady cypress
Ariadne was Asterion's sister, and she was in wuv with Theseus, so she gave him ...
And than he found the bull and wanted to divorce ariadne
marsh rivet
I mean you're not wrong
marsh rivet
Theseus dumped Ariadne on an island immediately after mercy killing Asterion then married someone else LOL
heady cypress
Wtf
marsh rivet
rekt
heady cypress
You could've just married the bull
whole comet
some of his... "feat" XD
marsh rivet
You could've just married the bull
I call them The Husbandos
whole comet
most tends to know the glory
heady cypress
That's probably the only person who can bear his personality
whole comet
AND Asterius and Thessus's still BFF in afterlife
heady cypress
you might notice some gods dun like Thessus
Who was it again that told zag to slap theseus
Achilles right? Wait hes not a God tho..
whole comet
Dio
whole comet
he would have low opinion on Thessus, I believe Poseidon too
heady cypress
I just dropped my phone help
marsh rivet
Who else would say such a thing
(basically everyone lol)
whole comet
though he's a bit more flexiable
heady cypress
(basically everyone lol)
(no artemis would just think it and accidentally say it loud)
whole comet
i mean, no doubt Thessus had done great and bad things, but arn't that the same for most mortals?
marsh rivet
Theseus didn't actually do anything great. He was picked for slaughter in the Labyrinth, he got the princess of Crete all hot and bothered so he got a free pass, Asterion basically gave him a freebie since he didn't want to live anyway.
whole comet
isn't the minotaur a monster to humans?
marsh rivet
He was the prince of Crete
whole comet
but still got wanted
marsh rivet
His momma did some unspeakables with Poseidon's bull
whole comet
though, should step back a bit
heady cypress
isn't the minotaur a monster to humans?
The isekais/fantasies I've watched are more like "funny cow in dungeon"
whole comet
Hades's greek myth verison could be different
heady cypress
Probably not just evil but a lower being like a vermin
marsh rivet
Really the minotaur was just the first furry, and ancient Reddit condemned him to the Labyrinth for eternal punishment.
whole comet
i believe Asterius said he was in Tartarus, but Thessus saved him and ended up in elysium
something like that?
marsh rivet
Yeah, that's the post-story epilogue that Hades (the game) gave the two
heady cypress
i believe Asterius said he was in Tartarus, but Thessus saved him and ended up i...
I think the bull was supposed to stay in tartarus
marsh rivet
Similar to the post-story epilogue for Eurydice/Orpheus
whole comet
so does seem a fair trade
marsh rivet
Was Michael Jackson the first genderfluid person?
Humanfluid
whole comet
at least, thanks to Thessus, Asterius might have a better afterlife
topaz imp
Does Death Defiance or Lucky Tooth activate first?
heady cypress
Dd
topaz imp
oof
heady cypress
Lt is always the last one
marsh rivet
Yeah, Hades (the game) gave all of the stories happy endings
marsh rivet
Greek Mythology itself is... less generous
whole comet
i like Disney stories 😄
marsh rivet
When you're bored you should look up Hephaestus' story for a laugh. Hera yeeted him off a mountain as a baby because he was ugly and he broke his back--forever.
heady cypress
Whu-
vagrant grove
Yeah, Hades (the game) gave all of the stories happy endings
we never see the other members of Troy Story, for all we know they're all wallowing in regret like Achilles and Patroclus
whole comet
wonder if pandora box would be featured if a sequel happens
heady cypress
Isn't hephaestus the God of the anvil or sumn
whole comet
seems like a good idea for a roguelite random boss stuff
heady cypress
Why would hera do that
vagrant grove
Isn't hephaestus the God of the anvil or sumn
god of crafts and smithing
oh and metalworking
heady cypress
god of crafts and smithing
Exactly what I said but with extra steps
vagrant grove
god of anvils = god of everything related to making things with materials yes
marsh rivet
I like Greek Mythology for that. You should obey the Gods' will because they're insanely petty and can and will mess you up if you get in their way.
heady cypress
Does the run not really reset when you give up?
Got the exact same boons with the same rarities in the same order twice in a row
vagrant grove
no, it's the same seed
heady cypress
Oof
vagrant grove
you need to die to reset
heady cypress
So i have to Die?
marsh rivet
yeah
heady cypress
you need to die to reset
Rip
marsh rivet
there's also a very small % chance that you can not die and get a soft reset, as shades moving around in the first room does iterate the RNG function of the game
vagrant grove
there's also a very small % chance that you can not die and get a soft reset, as...
that's just RNG manipulation, right
marsh rivet
It's impossible to do deterministically, so it's the game RNG manipulating for you lol
vagrant grove
like rerolling without rerolls, waiting, doing false meg calls, that's rng manipulation and it is possible to do deterministically ledger
whole comet
assuming you either dun use god keepsake or always has the same one
marsh rivet
The one I'm referring to is shades moving around randomly in the first chamber of the game
vagrant grove
just takes a butt-ton of work
whole comet
shades = the 1st room enemies right?
marsh rivet
That's occasionally sufficient to just change the outcome of your first boon offering
Nah, shades being the literal green NPC shades moving around
whole comet
oh those
marsh rivet
The ones that poof when you attack or dash into them
whole comet
thought they're just decorations like pots lol
vagrant grove
yeah lol, what I mean is that you can force boons by doing things like that
marsh rivet
I mean, they move, and they do it randomly, so they need something to tell them how to do that lol.
The shades, along with random voice lines from Zag entering each room, make routing even harder than it already is
whole comet
then, decorations that can move, like those things in theme park ride
marsh rivet
though there are mods for it now to make it a lot lot lot less painful
vagrant grove
I really don't understand how people can put so much time into routing
there are so many different factors, it seems like it would take forever
whole comet
oh right, routing
marsh rivet
It's kinda fun lol. And the results can be worth it. It's how we have our only 64 heat clear
whole comet
the idea that makes the room all predictable right?
marsh rivet
courtesy of cgull (who did the routing) + baj (who played Zeus to get it)
vagrant grove
It's kinda fun lol. And the results can be worth it. It's how we have our only...
there's a full pact run out there?
link please
if you can find it
whole comet
personally i still think it's cheating, Hades's a roguelite, and people just exploit it a bit too much XD
vagrant grove
that's why they have their own speedrun category seperate from random runs
whole comet
i guess if people were happy with it, then yeah
my biggest problem is still
when i use give up option to retry
people would say i did the route too
marsh rivet
personally i still think it's cheating, Hades's a roguelite, and people just exp...
If you actually watch routed runs. It's so incredibly obvious that's it's happening that there is very close to 0% chance you could actually cheat doing this
[and not get caught]
whole comet
curious
what would be cheating like in Hades?
i knew mods exist, but dunno if people can use it to changes game in a way that's unfair
marsh rivet
Video splicing, modding the game subtly, somehow routing without it being obvious
You can create save states (and many high heat players do) to practice content specifically, like boss fights, but you could use it to get multiple attempts at a boss then splice the footage together
whole comet
wait, save states?
marsh rivet
We don't really worry about cheating because it's incredibly high effort and the leaderboards are for bragging rights so like... who cares?
twin thistle
pretending you did a category you didn't do if an actual routed run is submitted to the routed leaderboard then that isn't cheating
whole comet
u can do that in Hades?
marsh rivet
It's happened a couple of times though
vagrant grove
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Mf4y1p7t2
this guy is cracked at the game
marsh rivet
And we removed those runs and blacklisted the players appropriately
Yes, Baj is completely unbelievably good at Zeus aspect
twin thistle
try routed 64 heat then if it's that easy
vagrant grove
the execution is.. mmmmmm chef's kiss
marsh rivet
u can do that in Hades?
To make a save state, you can copy the Profile1.temp file from any room, say, Hades, and then copy + rename it to an existing Profile2.sav, and as an interesting interaction of the fact that the game only iterates .sav files when you enter the House of Hades, you can then indefinitely Give Up and when you open the save file again, boom, you're in that room
Feel free to replace the numbers with whatever slots you want
whole comet
try routed 64 heat then if it's that easy <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
tempting. i dun think Supergiant minds at the very least
whole comet
so yeah, i suppose i did it on put it on victory boast
marsh rivet
That 64 heat run is weeks of work and grinding from cgull to calculate the route then execution from one of the best players in the game
It's extremely far from easy
whole comet
i could say i did it, no video proof
not that victory boast ever said u need to video it, it's just do w/e u want, as long as not mod
vagrant grove
that meg fight
marsh rivet
For the record, Baj on a whim got to chamber 34 at 64 heat unseeded
whole comet
It's *extremely* far from easy
when i said easy, i compare to unseed 62 heat by another guy
vagrant grove
For the record, Baj on a whim got to chamber 34 at 64 heat **unseeded**
w h a t t h e f u d g e
whole comet
so i think i might've misunderstand u guys a bit
vagrant grove
cracked @ the game
marsh rivet
not that victory boast ever said u need to video it, it's just do w/e u want, as...
There's a semi-official heat leaderboard maintained in the pins of #h1-high-heat-strategies with hundreds of runs, and speedrun.com, and both require video verification with recorded previous death
vagrant grove
**he's doing this hitless **
mint coral
you really cant afford get hit on that heat tbf
vagrant grove
exactly
twin thistle
when only sources of healing is tooth/collar and centaur hearts
whole comet
you really cant afford get hit on that heat tbf
actually, i feel like hell mode fresh file is simiilar XD
marsh rivet
Yeah you don't have DDs lol. During EA, the previous heat cap was 57, which was done using the Stubborn Roots + Skelly Tooth exploit, where if you have any DD, you can qualify for Stubborn Roots, then you can just switch off the Tooth and still have Roots active
whole comet
getting pass Elysium with high hp at hell mode, gotta be one of the hardest thing to do
marsh rivet
Routing for that is a monumental pain in the pooper though, and also sacrifices a lot of damage, and timer is the most precious resource at high heat
To put the grind of routing in perspective, and why I don't consider it cheating, lol. So say you're in chamber 1, and want to guarantee... epic Jolted in chamber 3 (with seed for epic Lightning Strike in the first room). So... the process would be, in chamber 1, cast or summon 1x in the doorway. Enter the room. Is there a Zeus offered? No? Go back a step. Yes? Finish the room, do you have boon? No? Go back to step 1
vagrant grove
I am speechless, that was insane
marsh rivet
Oh darn, when you entered chamber 3, Zagreus said a voice line. Guess this route is null and void as that's not replicable
Back to step 1 with you
whole comet
i would stand by my statement that Hades is meant to play as RNG. you take away that element, then it's not the same
and using in-game function is fine
vagrant grove
that's fine. it's your opinion after all. as long as you don't try and tell those players that their work is "cheating" and their run should be invalid (because that's just a horrible thing to do), it's alright.
marsh rivet
Sadly that is more or less what happened in early access
whole comet
as i said b4, if they were fine, i don't mind
marsh rivet
And the router left the community because of it
whole comet
i'm not gonna force people to play Hades in a way, would not mind to suggest
vagrant grove
And the router left the community because of it
that's pretty effed up
marsh rivet
Yeah I'm pretty upset about it still. I can't possibly overstate how difficult routing is without modded help (it's soooo much less bad now)
marble badge
it is just another way to play the game that is actually quite interesting and fun to execute on
reef zodiac
If you want to say 64 heat routed isn’t that hard then do it and record it. That’s a straight up lunatic assertion
whole comet
u prolly could give up and retry a lot
and got a successful run and people would be fine
vagrant grove
u prolly could give up and retry a lot
giving up doesn't reset seeds
whole comet
the 1st room does not, prolly not the 2nd
reef zodiac
and got a successful run and people would be fine
Yeah, as long as you don’t try to pretend your run wasn’t seeded
twin thistle
the person retrying wouldn't be fine
whole comet
you're bound to face the RNG eventually
vagrant grove
you're bound to face the RNG eventually
no, only death changes seeds
twin thistle
resetting enough times to actually get the rng needed to complete a 64 heat unrouted/seeded run is just unrealistic
whole comet
in the same run when i giveup
vagrant grove
i saw Meg or Tis as first boss
that's because you did a miniscule thing differently 😆
whole comet
i dun plan to control it so meg would always be the first boss
i imagine people who "route" would
reef zodiac
that's because you did a miniscule thing differently 😆
No things can definitely change even if you do the exact same rooms
twin thistle
i imagine people who "route" would
well thats the whole point of routing
reef zodiac
Wieldo is literally just a different way to play the game
whole comet
well thats the whole point of routing
and they completely take away the RNG
that's probably why i dun do TD
reef zodiac
then would be easy to just pratice
Also I still can’t believe you said 64 heat routed is easy
marsh rivet
"People who route" isn't really a thing. It's too hard. You route a run as a personal challenge to see if you can actually do it.
reef zodiac
Like bro go beat 40 heat before you say 64 heat is easy
vagrant grove
there is no winning an internet argument
whole comet
there is no winning an internet argument
not really gonna try win lol
vagrant grove
t h e n w h y k e e p a r g u i n g
reef zodiac
Where is fresh file vid
Oh from Wieldo? Were they gonna actually provide proof? Because I doubt they can, it’s pretty obvious they never did it
vagrant grove
c'mon guys, be civil
full nexus
Why are you so concerned about it
gray apex
twin thistle
time to run away 
void vigil
unholypancake, please stop being so hostile and remember the first rule of the server, be kind.
reef zodiac
Why are you so concerned about it
Because they regularly make an effort to make me feel like I’m bad because I never did it
Even though they have no proof they did it themself
whole comet
lol i know he would be here
gray apex
Pure entertainment btw
whole comet
guess he has a lot to say about my opinion
full nexus
Told you once you were looking down on people and you still are. Hades is about beating yourself again and again. You can be competitive if you like but the way you're doing it is not healthy
reef zodiac
guess he has a lot to say about my opinion
Opinion? What, that I’m bad?
vagrant grove
this is like watching american reality tv
reef zodiac
Told you once you were looking down on people and you still are. Hades is about ...
I’m looking down on people? They asked me to clarify exactly where I was having trouble in fresh file, then sent me 6 images of them past that point without me asking just to make me feel badly
How is that me looking down on them?
whole comet
but i do appreciate u guys explain it in detail
i ultimalely still dun wanan do that
full nexus
You keep on telling way better players how to play the game
Like how is this fair lol
gray apex
^
whole comet
and honestly, maybe "cheat" a bit too harsh
reef zodiac
Like how is this fair lol
Routed 64 heat is something that nobody in this channel could do. They’re way better than me, and they’re way better than Wieldo.
void vigil
okay, move on, everybody
reef zodiac
Yet Wieldo says it’s easy and that they’re cheating
marble badge
honestly i think you're all better off just not talking about things you've got no understanding of lol
reef zodiac
okay, move on, everybody
Alright.
vagrant grove
okay, move on, everybody
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
full nexus
The chameau is right
marsh rivet
and honestly, maybe "cheat" a bit too harsh
Yeah, this kind of rubbed me the wrong way too, at least you acknowledged it lol. It was comments like that that caused someone to leave the community in EA in the first place.
No hard feelings, I think we all understand each other's positions on it.
vagrant grove
YOU JUST HAD TO CONTINUE THIS
ok, for a much needed subject change, what are yall's favorite character designs
I personally love patroclus
oh, and Tis
whole comet
Cerberus 😄
vagrant grove
he a good boyo
reef zodiac
Character designs? None of them were invented by Supergiant. Unless you mean how they look?
marsh rivet
vagrant grove
yes, how they look
whole comet
Meg's prolly the best for the romance
mint coral
ok, for a much needed subject change, what are yall's favorite character designs
artemis/chaos
and ofc
full nexus
vagrant grove
twin thistle
isn't that what character designs mean
reef zodiac
mint coral
whole comet
whip u
marsh rivet
I would literally give Dusa a haircut to get a half sized Cerberus plushie
mint coral
also orpheus design is neat
whole comet
i think it's funny that all gorgon are all head cut off
vagrant grove
yeah, I loved this one fanart I saw of pre-getting-torn-apart-by-fangirls orpheus
whole comet
because in greek myth, only medusa does, i think
marsh rivet
I instantly preordered a 5 foot arcanine from Pokemon Center LOL
heady cypress
Is a 66seconds hades fight decent? (no em4 I still can't beat that)
vagrant grove
because in greek myth, only medusa does, i think
depends on the retelling
sometimes they all die, sometimes only Medusa
whole comet
medusa's origin story
marsh rivet
half size would be very big
maybe quarter sized. Whatever would fit inside of a room. Or be a room.
whole comet
if i didn't look it up, i would never expect THAT god turns her to that
full nexus
Is a 66seconds hades fight decent? (no em4 I still can't beat that)
It's not fast as speedrun standards but it depends on what your goal is
And also your progression etc
void vigil
the gorgons in the underworld were born of medusas blood iirc, so it makes sense
vagrant grove
Athena got mad because she ___ in her temple, so she punished her. doesn't really make sense in certain contexts, but once again, depends on retelling and personal interpretation
marsh rivet
Everyone in greek mythology just be salty af
vagrant grove
ikr
whole comet
being born beautiful is a sin, apparently
heady cypress
It's not fast as speedrun standards but it depends on what your goal is
Constantly sub 20 would be cool for td3
3 free heat
full nexus
Then yeah that's more than good enough
whole comet
i think medusa just attracts people, not her trying to do that
vagrant grove
like, Patty died because he was impersonating Achilles cuz he didn't want to fight, so Achilles PARADED THE KILLER'S DEAD CORPSE ON A CHARIOT IN FRONT OF HIS FATHER
marsh rivet
to answer your question yeah 1 minute EM3 dad is great for your purposes.
vagrant grove
greeks be salting
marsh rivet
like, Patty died because he was impersonating Achilles cuz he didn't want to fig...
After killing like... everyone
vagrant grove
Troy Story is amazing lmao
marsh rivet
Troy Story 3
marsh rivet
So like... when is Dad gonna uh... put air conditioning in Asphodel? It's supposed to be a flowering meadow...
vagrant grove
That reminds me, if this game ever gets dlc, I'd love different champions for the em3 fight
marsh rivet
Like no rush or anything [but we're all burning in lava kthx]
vagrant grove
So like... when is Dad gonna uh... put air conditioning in Asphodel? It's suppo...
possibly in the next aeon
whole comet
asphodel might look like Elysium on the surface level if they do that
still flower and grass, but minus those war theme
heady cypress
I'm missing 5 legendary boons and 6hammers so I'm basically done with all the prophecies
heady cypress
I'm missing 5 legendary boons and 6hammers so I'm basically done with all the pr...
There's most likely one for nyx/chaos isn't it?
marsh rivet
Yeah Chaos has a legendary DD
vagrant grove
think about it, fighting gilgamesh and enkidu for em3 as an alternate to theseus and minotaur, maybe a perseus cameo w/ a dusa storyline
vagrant grove
the possibilities for this game are endless, really
marsh rivet
think about it, fighting gilgamesh and enkidu for em3 as an alternate to theseus...
Lol, just all of ye olde Husbandos
Enkidu the other OG furry
vagrant grove
imagine having to fight the aspect wielders, ie Beowulf, Rama, Enkidu, Arthur to unlock them
marsh rivet
Imagine being the existing king of Camelot and being told some toddler pulled the sword out.
vagrant grove
marsh rivet
"Hey like... you did a good job but you're fired."
vagrant grove
zag as king of camelot when
marsh rivet
Merlin just kinda told people that whoever would pull this sword out would be king.
And he's OP so people listened
vagrant grove
kinda sketchy, ngl
an old man tells you if you pull a sword, you get to be king of a magical kingdom
sounds suspicious
mint coral
imagine having to fight the aspect wielders, ie Beowulf, Rama, Enkidu, Arthur to...
fighting against a Beo Shield with all of its bugs sounds painful
marsh rivet
Merlin is being a sussy baka
whole comet
well, reminds me of a certain Nintendo char
vagrant grove
fighting against a Beo Shield with all of its bugs sounds painful
beo loads 5 mirage shot poseidon casts
t h e n b l o c k s e v e r y t h i n g
mint coral
if they take passion flare we just force them into that stupid bug
vagrant grove
I feel like guan yu would be the easiest fight
half of hades' hp pool
and no charged skewer
mint coral
arthur just nopes all of the bullets
reef zodiac
imagine having to fight the aspect wielders, ie Beowulf, Rama, Enkidu, Arthur to...
This isn’t Smash Bros
whole comet
arthur just nopes all of the bullets <:dusa:522248771409543188>
he could put the aura down, and bullet hell around the area
vagrant grove
he just camps the aura for 20 hours
whole comet
would be super annoying to deal with bullets having random speed in random area
mint coral
gilga would try to apply maim then get 2 shotted from the +50% dmg
vagrant grove
rama actually fights strategically, then gets murdered waiting to do a perfect shot
whole comet
best weapon in game imo
mint coral
rama is comfy
whole comet
well, shield is the strongest for sure
zeus shield
though, i like the bow style in general
mint coral
i like that all bow aspects are great
whole comet
i think the gun just seems annoying to fight Elysium or EM4 with butterfly
vagrant grove
i like that all bow aspects are great
bow in general is like, high A tier for me, compared to sword which only has 2 good aspects imo
gun is great
whole comet
how'd u even kill butterfly with lucifer?
mint coral
shield compesates the absolute strength of zeus and beo with chaos aspect
vagrant grove
shield compesates the absolute strength of zeus and beo with chaos aspect <:boul...
chaos is good. there I said it
it compensates for chaos, beo, and zeus' strength with zag aspect
mint coral
there is like 1 zag aspect that is not completely hammer dependant tbf
raw herald
And another aspect completely outclasses it
vagrant grove
there is like 1 zag aspect that is not completely hammer dependant tbf <:bouldy:...
which one
heady cypress
I just chose the wrong boon by accident
vagrant grove
yikers
heady cypress
Panicked and closed the game
raw herald
I'd say fists
heady cypress
Panicked and closed the game
Can I redo the room now?
whole comet
no
vagrant grove
yes
heady cypress
confusion
whole comet
if u open the boon, it would not allow the quit
vagrant grove
if you "give up" you might be able to go to the same room
mint coral
give up throws you to the house
vagrant grove
I couldnt finish-
heady cypress
give up throws you to the house
Didn't give up I closed the game
twin thistle
yeah closing the game in a place you cant quit out is the same as give up
heady cypress
Was too confident that It saves between the rooms
whole comet
oh u close the game like crash?
heady cypress
No
whole comet
i think that still counts as give up once u open the boon, or take dmg
heady cypress
I wanted to pick Auto reload from hermes to get the legendary(it's a prereq)
But I chose smth like movement speed
vagrant grove
you're in aspho, right
twin thistle
dont think you can quit to menu during/after picking up a boon
mint coral
if its your first hermes next biome take the plume
that way you still can get the legendary
vagrant grove
dont think you can quit to menu during/after picking up a boon
I've done it, might just be switch jank idk
heady cypress
if its your first hermes next biome take the plume
Was using the egg so I can get it too lvl 3
gray apex
Or get rush delivery
heady cypress
I would like to avoid using the plume so I can lvl up everything asap
Re-did the First room and left the game properly this time i have to get some sleep
whole comet
question
lone kernel
Re-did the First room and left the game properly this time i have to get some sl...
Reminds me so much of me
One more run
lone kernel
if u wish to play all ares ablity
Merciful end with Athena or homing blade rifts with Artemis are both poggers
mint coral
chiron + ares special and dire misfortune (or any fast hitting weapon ig)
gilga with ares dash can work i think
whole comet
alright
mint coral
another day where god's pride is a scam and all my boons are common
whole comet
that's why it won't let u get up to 100%, i guess
vagrant grove
another day where god's pride is a scam and all my boons are common <:bouldy:523...
just use legacy and take 20 duos you don't need
mint coral
im never taking legacy on rama
mint coral
whats the point of cold fusion when you are zeus spamming
also it would be a crime to not use triple shot
vagrant grove
triple shot rama w/ a dmg% and point blank
not trying it at least once is a crime against humanity
vagrant grove
more like 45% of the time
if poms upgraded crit chance instead of base damage%, would that be a buff or a nerf?
mint coral
just realized god pride wasnt a full scam
my only epic boon rn is a Chaos dash strike
vagrant grove
that would've been so good on Nemesis
mint coral
havent played sword in ages lol
vagrant grove
it's a really fun time
vagrant grove
chaos really wants you to dash-strike
mint coral
im playing rama so im doing that anyway
twin thistle
lol with all those chaos boons maybe arty attack wouldve been better
vagrant grove
arty doesnt get me smoldering air <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
cough pash dash on fists cough
true on rama, sadly
vagrant grove
lone kernel
Based
devout terrace
that would've been so good on Nemesis
Thats still very powerful on rama
Its the reason why artemis dash is usually the best on it
You should always be dash striking on your powershots
mint coral
ofc the stupid build with chaos boons and epic RD is the one that gets 5-sacked
devout terrace
whole comet
maybe i'm just lazy,
but i just like the green Cast more so i dun have to pick up the 3 leftover all the time😦
reef zodiac
Special damage 
Drunken flourish 
twin thistle
wait i forgot about privileged
rapid forum
twin thistle
its lvl 2 chiron also
rapid forum
twin thistle
but hey look at all those duo boon prereqs
rapid forum
Pick AP2
Shackle Beowulf
First boon demeter
Icy flare
I try not to roll unless it's really REALLY bad
stoic violet
Heya question for a friend. How are the aspect dialogue options triggered?
They wanna get all the aspects for the weapons, do you trigger them by leveling your friendship up with nectar? I remember with my playthrough I just went through and didn't think about it and just got the aspects when I got em.
high island
Requirements for hidden aspects are pinned in #h1-story-discussion.
reef zodiac
I try not to roll unless it's really REALLY bad
Seems justified here.
stoic violet
Requirements for hidden aspects are pinned in <#521035166471159828>.
Thanks
stoic violet
Requirements for hidden aspects are pinned in <#521035166471159828>.
What about all the 1-3 aspects? That was all for the fourth aspects.
Unless I missed them somehow
high island
You just need to unlock all the weapons and then do one more run to be able to use aspects.
And need Titan Blood to get them, of course.
whole comet
after that, u should see the weapon also has some blood effect growing as well
rapid forum
Seems justified here.
Not really? I mean it's bad but what I consider really bad is slicing flare
Which I actually got recommended to swap
reef zodiac
Not really? I mean it's bad but what I consider really bad is slicing flare
It’s so bad though
Literally the 2nd/3rd worst possible cast
chrome wharf
At most 3rd. Can't be worse than Zeus or Ares.
I guess there's the question of "is it worse than Shackle boonless cast"
reef zodiac
Well it can be pommed, but shackle cast can be upgraded by picking up a cast
chrome wharf
Freeze-spreading is nice but in the context of AP2 one can't rely on too many secondary boons
twin thistle
i like how dio and ares dont want to gimme their favor dialogue
reef zodiac
Worse than phalanx or Hunter flare imo
And obviously worse than flood, passion, or trippy
Definitely better than slicing flare
Probably better than thunder flare
chrome wharf
- Aphrodite | Poseidon | Dionysus
- Artemis | Athena | maybe Demeter
- Zeus | Ares
it's a tradeoff of damage vs slow
reef zodiac
But really there’s a massive gap between tier 1 and tier 2
chrome wharf
not saying there isn't
reef zodiac
Like tier 2 is still bottom tier and pretty much never worth using if you have any other option
reef zodiac
not saying there isn't
Oh yeah I know
chrome wharf
Tier 2 is "grab if on AP2"
Tier 3 is "reroll out of this on AP2 and keep the shackle on"
whole comet
aphrodite cast, would be very weapon dependent, right?
chrome wharf
this is a Beowulf-related conversation
chrome wharf
no it just asplode with freeze
whole comet
yeah, i was like, lol this is... pretty underwhelming
reef zodiac
It’s terrible
chrome wharf
yeah hence the discussion of how low it should be on the tierlist
reef zodiac
With AP2, flood flare is probably not very good either. It’s still decent, but a lot worse than passion and trippy
whole comet
still, i thought would be tier 3
chrome wharf
reef zodiac
still, i thought would be tier 3
Well Hunter and phalanx are equally abysmal
whole comet
if u can't make sure of slow
reef zodiac
Wtf is wrong with Icy Flare’s pom scaling 
It’s so so bad
That’s actually wild
It’s like 1/4 of flood flare
LMAO WHY
Ok Icy Flare is way worse than phalanx flare!
Like WAY worse
It has 1/3 the scaling of phalanx flare with the same decay 
Phalanx flare honestly isn’t that bad. It has the same pom scaling as passion flare, just significantly worse rarity scaling and a much worse effect. Still not all that bad for AP2, although I’d probably never do AP2 without resetting for a chamber 1 passion flare
But icy flare is an embarrassment. Demeter should be ashamed
brisk trail
Is demeter cast good
reef zodiac
Flood flare has the same rarity and Pom scaling as passion flare, just 25% less base damage. The upside is the knock away and more importantly being a prereq for Mirage Shot
whole comet
it is good on lots of situation
reef zodiac
Is demeter cast good
Crystal Beam? It can definitely be fun in an Achilles build
whole comet
but as he said, if u use Beo, it could be bad
reef zodiac
It’s slow and not good for high heat, but it’s a very fun casual build
whole comet
since Beo load won't spawn the crystal to track enemies
yeah, it won't do that if you use certain weapons
reef zodiac
Yeah icy flare and slicing flare are two of the worst boons in the entire game
whole comet
so u can say, if your weapon lets you spawn crystals, then it's fine
if not, then you might realize it's very underwhelming...
reef zodiac
Eh I don’t like crystal beam unless I’m building around it
whole comet
It deals alot of damage on stand still target
Thessus 😦
shield block a lot if u dun place them well
reef zodiac
Thes
whole comet
pass that, i think crystal is good most of the time
reef zodiac
Well I think it’s not
brisk trail
Theseus is annoying
brisk trail
Both personality and ability he is annoying
whole comet
lol RIP
i got a portrait of him at home XD
Zag: OH god 😦
Hades: You'lll never be a champion like him!
brisk trail
i got a portrait of him at home XD
He looks like he gonna stab you
whole comet
fun fact
he did backstab a woman's trust in greek myth
in order to kill Asterius
but eh, still good enough for Elysium
vagrant grove
theseus is a bad guy, not counting the whole saving people from the minotaur bit
whole comet
still does not change the fact many lives were saved
and deemed Elysium
so yeah, not a perfect guy
vagrant grove
elysium isnt based on whether you are a good person, it's based on if you did things that left a mark on the world, and would at least qualify for asphodel
vagrant grove
so yeah, not a perfect guy
he tried to kidnap and eventually r*** helen when she was 7
b r o
whole comet
unfortunately, those things apparently don't drop him to other places in afterlife
and in Hades the game
u might realize only few gods know those things
the olypmian
Hades certainly likes Thessus
vagrant grove
yeah, like I said, according to codex you just need to make a big difference and be a "great" person, not necessarily a "good" person
vagrant grove
Hades certainly likes Thessus
what dialogue does Hades say he particularly likes theseus
whole comet
when u bought his portrait
vagrant grove
what does he say?
whole comet
you'll know when u buy it lol
IF you're curious 😄
but tbh
i think Hades just wanna roast Zag
at any possible moment
vagrant grove
why would Hades "like" someone who assisted an attempted kidnapping of his wife
just hades messing w/ zag probably
(mythologically speaking)
whole comet
it still does not change the fact Thessus is in Elysium
vagrant grove
it doesn't, why do you keep bringing that up?
whole comet
and Hades did mention if he could, he would've sent people like Hercules to Tartarus
vagrant grove
yes, elysium access is decided by a council of great kings (all zeus' sons iirc)
not Hades himself
whole comet
so if good person does not end up in Elysium
should u be good then, or do heroic deeds even if it means commiting evil
hmmm
but to make ONE thing clear
Hades the game might not actually follow the greek myth in that regards exactly
vagrant grove
should u be good then, or do heroic deeds even if it means commiting evil
"Only the great get in. Many mortals strive for greatness all their lives, never quite realizing there is no existing formula for it. Not even a specific definition for it. Greatness is evaluated here, by several judges entrusted to consider the many cases the Master himself cannot see to personally"
this is the codex entry for elysium, it's the canonical system as far as I can tell
"A lifetime spent achieving impressive feats is the best preparation I can think of."- Achilles
whole comet
it is possible that some events in the greek myth did not happen in game
so the Persephone kidnap might not have happened in game?
felt like Hades or Persephone would've talked about it
twin thistle
huh? pretty sure they talk about how Zeus kidnapped Persephone and brought her over
whole comet
in game, that's not the truth
vagrant grove
huh? pretty sure they talk about how Zeus kidnapped Persephone and brought her o...
w h a
anyway, the game isn't 100% mythologically accurate
and it shouldn't be*
twin thistle
its also in the game wiki
whole comet
game wiki either is wrong, or they try not to spoil
vagrant grove
for example, originally Persephone was the daughter of Zeus and Demeter, in-game she's the daughter of Demeter and Unnamed Mortal Man
vagrant grove
game wiki either is wrong, or they try not to spoil
why would a wiki try not to spoil? it's a wiki
reef zodiac
Again, the game isn’t 100% mythologically accurate
whole comet
nothing wrong with that
that game wiki he's reading though...
if people thought Zeus kidnap her
oh well
vagrant grove
it's this https://hades.fandom.com/wiki
reef zodiac
if people thought Zeus kidnap her
Isn’t that said literally in game?
twin thistle
like its actually a dialogue in game too ya know
twin thistle
^ big reason why hades is mad at zeus because kidnapping her would make demeter/olympus mad if they found out
high island
Lord Zeus kidnapped Queen Persephone.
whole comet
and it seems like Hades could've denied it
as Zag said: You love her and didn't send her away
but definitely annoyed by Zeus's decision
so they hide the whole thing
Hades certainly sees it no different from kidnapping
high island
Queen Persephone did not go willingly.
whole comet
depends on the real myth or in game lol
high island
m talking about the game.
whole comet
then, are u sure?
high island
Yes.
rapid forum
it said persephone wanted to leave olympus, not wanted to leave olympus and go to underworld
vagrant grove
36:36 says "I was content to leave"
whole comet
at least, if u ask Persephone, that's her answer
vagrant grove
Hades took her in that situation, not Zeus lol
whole comet
Zeus has a role to play in it too
vagrant grove
In the myths
whole comet
though that's irrelevant for the topic for now
vagrant grove
though that's irrelevant for the topic for now
then why'd you bring it up
whole comet
well, someone seems to think in game, Zeus kidnaps her
high island
More like everyone except you, apparently.
"I would have left the mountain voluntarily, except..."
As in, she didn't leave voluntarily.
whole comet
and the next part?
vagrant grove
I believe Wieldo is referring to "I was content to leave" at 36:36 Nya
whole comet
well, that was the start of the conversation
high island
The next part is her explanation of what happened without her consent.
"I would have left voluntarily" implies she didn't leave voluntarily. There's really no ambiguity there.
whole comet
i see
lone kernel
is mega sus of dad
reef zodiac
is mega sus of dad
rapid forum
oh gods
whole comet
guess in Hades Among us, Dio got the red sus treatment 😦
or in this case, purple sus
oblique pebble
quick question about cloud saves – once enabled, does it mean the saves actually sync in real time, assuming solid internet connection etc? in other words, i can resume my progress from either the switch or pc side, after the last session from the other side finishes saving/uploading?
i am nervous to enable it if it requires a "manual" upload/download each time, because i don't want to lose my valuable save file!
rapid forum
You can resume your progress from either side, yes.
rapid forum
Although, switch upload isn't really real time. It upload to cloud when you want to quit to main menu.
spare tiger
If you're like me and you turn your switch off, break the habit if you wanna turn cloud saves on
Oh, and loading's gonna take an extra minute when you fire your save up
oblique pebble
No problem! I will put up with anything for this super cool cloud save functionality. Amazing really
I wish my other Steam games had that…
spare tiger
A few have embraced it, but nothing huge unfortunately
oblique pebble
An unrelated question - does Hades run at 60fps on Switch? I haven’t bought it yet but I think I will
zealous tapir
Terraria was one of the first with it, and it does cloud saves very well
oblique pebble
I have about 50 hours in my PC version so far…
spare tiger
An unrelated question - does Hades run at 60fps on Switch? I haven’t bought it y...
Don't think so unfortunately
If you have Xbox Gamepass and don't mind starting over, Hades is available on the service
Unfortunately, supergiant's said no cloud saves are happening for Xbox and PS4/5
oblique pebble
Ahhh too bad! I am accustomed to 165fps G-synced at 1440p on a 32” screen 😅 so the switch gameplay will be rough I think…
But I guess I will buy it and see
spare tiger
You could always just plug a pro controller in for the same experience lmao
oblique pebble
Welllllll that’s just the controller 🙂
spare tiger
Even if the performance isn't spectacular, the game still runs really well
Never had a performance issue
oblique pebble
I’m just a 60fps snob 😄 but I’ll buy it on Switch anyway
spare tiger
By all means go for it
oblique pebble
Many Switch games are 30fps, no worries haha
Not a beast of a machine but very portable and fun
oblique pebble
If it’s not 30 it’s likely 60ish. I guess it could be 45 but that would be odd
spare tiger
I've noticed oddly enough that when you're taken by the styx after you escape that the game runs way faster than usual?
Weird
Well either way if you notice framerates better than i do, report back to me
I'd honestly like to know the normal FPS of Switch hades
oblique pebble
It will be easy to tell whether it’s 30 or not
oblique pebble
I've noticed oddly enough that when you're taken by the styx after you escape th...
Likely because the game is rendering very little at that point
spare tiger
Good point yeah
oblique pebble
The internal display is 60hz
I’m not sure if a Switch will drive an external display at more than 60hz…I suspect not
(When docked, I mean)
spare tiger
Docked? Chances are you'll get to 60
Undocked? 30 likely
Maybe higher on OLED once that's out?
oblique pebble
we'll see 🙂 mine should arrive on friday
high island
An unrelated question - does Hades run at 60fps on Switch? I haven’t bought it y...
60 fps with some frame drops when the screen gets very busy with effects.
oblique pebble
60 fps with some frame drops when the screen gets very busy with effects.
Ok, nice. Thank you
marsh rivet
60 fps with some frame drops when the screen gets very busy with effects.
Some random BP2 enemies really aggressively drop frames, especially in Elysium, but oddly even with a billion things on the screen at the same time with EM4, framerate all good in the hood
heady cypress
Is seastorm+illusionshot and Zeus legendary good for a Rama with poseidon on the special and Zeus on the cast?
It seemed op at first but seastorm doesn't affect bosses right?
marsh rivet
Rama really should be focusing on attack. It's pretty far from a castspect
heady cypress
Cuz they don't get knocked back
heady cypress
Rama really should be focusing on attack. It's pretty far from a castspect
Ik but I was mainly focusing on my atk, the other stuff just ended up being in my build
marsh rivet
That's why Wave Pounding makes sense as a boon :3
Otherwise it would be Nourishing Soul (zing)
heady cypress
I love how the narrator was struggling for a second when I ended the run
Now I always have to think about how he's making up everything
mint coral
Post credits deaths are funny
oblique pebble
Does it keep being unique forever?
mint coral
Zag has died to a goat lmao
oblique pebble
I swear I haven’t had a repeat yet
There is an insane amount of unique dialogue in this game tbh
marsh rivet
Lol, how exactly would that work? :3
heady cypress
Commendable? Dad was that a compliment?
marsh rivet
They just have a quip monkey in a dungeon somewhere delivering one liners forever
oblique pebble
Lol, how exactly would that work? :3
I am speaking colloquially of course 🙂
heady cypress
Zag has died to a goat lmao <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
Ik that one
heady cypress
I also saw one with a bear
oblique pebble
And no repeats
marsh rivet
But I have completed I don’t know maybe 50 runs
Oh there should be well more than that at least.
So you have more to look forward to lol. They do repeat though, quite a lot (disclaimer I'm at like 2k attempts)
heady cypress
So you have more to look forward to lol. They do repeat though, quite a lot (di...
How many runs did you finish?
marsh rivet
No idea. Probably less proportionally than I would think because I did a lot of seeded play in Early Access, and also I focus on heat so failure is kind of the norm
heady cypress
I'm playing with ~10 heat in average lol
marsh rivet
Nowadays I don't really push heat anymore, but I do random 50s with Rama/Zeus for funzies, those runs probably have like... 25% completion rate, being generous
heady cypress
Cuz I still don't have all of the bounties I just don't need to go higher
marsh rivet
EM4 so rude
amber cloak
How do I have hundreds of hours into this game and only just realized the small cart enemies blow themselves up when they run into walls. All of my melee runs are crying rn
heady cypress
Small bulls
Wait
Now that I think about it... They are probably the champs babys
marsh rivet
No worries, I've seen very experienced speedrunners also attack the kitty carts instead of kiting them into walls
(they meow)
amber cloak
I mean it kinda makes sense for speedrunning. Maybe it's worth the health risk if making them run into walls costs time
marsh rivet
Yeah it makes sense there but I meant when they do heat runs or whatever
heady cypress
I have a question
amber cloak
I'm always surprised by how risky Hades speedrunners play and how low their health gets since in my head speedrunners are like the best players who never get hit but that costs time ig
heady cypress
I have a question
Was hanging out at home
marsh rivet
Yeah we talked about that yesterday lol. Speedrunners are so casual about getting hit vs. Dad
gray apex
Speedrunners swim in lava
mint coral
Was hanging out at home
As long whe dont die we are good
gray apex
Real gamers afterall
marsh rivet
Whereas heat players doing speedruns waste a lot of time not getting hit
mint coral
Wrong reply lol
heady cypress
And then I saw a tiny shade in the queue, is that a dead baby? How do they tell hades what they want?
marsh rivet
Rude, they could be little people.
amber cloak
I don't imagine any babies are going to hell. The hell has a baby done to land himself in tartarus lmao. Serial killer baby
marsh rivet
Kind of a messed up system for babies to go to Tartarus too LOL
heady cypress
That's why I asked if they are babys
marsh rivet
They probably go to Asphodel (oof)
amber cloak
They like to be called hobbits
heady cypress
Kind of a messed up system for babies to go to Tartarus too LOL
I thought everyone goes to hades before being placed somewhere in the underworld
heady cypress
How many rerolls can you get by upgrading your talents?
I have a for boons and 1 for rooms atm and it's Already way too expensive
reef zodiac
I’d rather have 1 persuasion roll than 10 authority rolls tbh
heady cypress
Except for the chaos menu
/skin?
heady cypress
Yeah
But let's not talk about that one
Mine is like lvl 3 or 4 cuz I thought I'll need it for nyx favor
reef zodiac
Fair
heady cypress
My rng is so good rn wanted to try nemesis with 16 heat or sumn
Got 4 artemis boons within the 4st 80 seconds
soft needle
heya! i'm a kinda new hades player (~40 hrs) and I also make games. nice to meet you :)
oblique pebble
Let me ask y’all this - if I loved Hades but was never totally bitten by Supergiant’s other stuff (I only tried Bastion I think)…should I go back and play them?
void vigil
Sure, I recommend it! There’s bits of all the other games in hades, but they are different. Bastion is probably the most similar combat wise, transistor the most similar irt the combinations of powers, and pyre is the most similar in the visual novel aspect.
ebon thistle
Zag in Smash? No, that didn't happened.
heady cypress
Idk if that's good or bad
Cuz I don't want to start playing smash bros again I'd like to see him in brawlhalla tho
pure karma
Let me ask y’all this - if I loved Hades but was never totally bitten by Supergi...
Both Bastion and Transistor are masterpieces. Transistor especially has a special place in my heart.
Ok time to to play Sword