Honestly I feel like "they can't believe that forever, something needs to happen" stuff
#h1-discussion
plush oar
rain relic
also, you can't get Demeter's favour until you get the true ending, so don't bother trying
plush oar
Oh, I have just her and Demeter left, how do I onl- -oh
rain relic
Oh, I have just her and Demeter left, how do I onl- -oh
Aphro's requires you get either Meg, Dusa or Thanatos' hearts maxed out
so yeah, not hard, just takes a while
rain relic
luckily, you don't need to do those 3's favours for Aphro's favour, but you should do that anyway for some...interesting events to occur
plush oar
luckily, you don't need to do those 3's favours for Aphro's favour, but you shou...
I see... anyway I want to complete the game as much as possibble so I'll do it anyway
rain relic
I see... anyway I want to complete the game as much as possibble so I'll do it a...
have fun 🙂
plush oar
I hope is nothing like stardew valley where you get the romance with everybody they start to fight and then your relation with them all drops to 0 again 🤣
rain relic
I hope is nothing like stardew valley where you get the romance with everybody t...
oh no, it's Greece, the exact opposite will happen if you romance all 3 at the same time
rain relic
nothing motivates more then the promise of a Harem am i right?
late fog
Aw man I took a look in here and the ending was spoilt
burnt breach
well that's your fault lol
if you haven't finished the game stay in #h1-for-new-players
late fog
I mean it’s just the normal hades discussion channel, I wouldn’t expect key story info to be right here without any spoiler tags
plush oar
Aw man I took a look in here and the ending was spoilt
read the description of the channel...
plush oar
"All spoilers welcome! For general discussion of Hades. Hop over to story-discussion or builds-and-combat to dive into specifics!"
plush oar
ah another question
how do I unlock the secret aspect of the pew pew weapon
(I honestly don't really like that weapon but I still want to unlock his hidden aspect)
burnt breach
late fog
how do I unlock the secret aspect of the pew pew weapon
You gotta speak to Zeus
Oh nvm it’s right there
plush oar
https://imgur.com/NKjAeoh
so that was my mistake, I invested 0 to noghitn in that blasted weapon XD
ty! ^^
burnt breach
👌
woeful plank
@twin thistle thanks for the suggestion on 16 heat yesterday, beat it first try just now
plush oar
<@646606294777593866> thanks for the suggestion on 16 heat yesterday, beat it fi...
ohhh what advice, i'm doing 16 heat right now
woeful plank
ohhh what advice, i'm doing 16 heat right now
They just gave me a suggest pact of punishment to use!
plush oar
do you still have ti for me to see?
thorny mirage
ohhh what advice, i'm doing 16 heat right now
What pacts do you have rn
woeful plank
I can't attach images so let me link their message
This message has it
I swapped out Underworld Customs to pump up Extreme Measures to level 3 personally
I also found that fully upgraded acorn is huge
Against the bosses
thin canyon
I swapped out Underworld Customs to pump up Extreme Measures to level 3 personal...
also em3 theseus just runs around for most of the room lol
funniest bossfight in the game
thorny mirage
underworld customs really isn’t too bad
if you just pick up a decent amount of boons
damn it
woeful plank
if you just pick up a decent amount of boons
Yeah that's my issue
I don't always
I'm happy I didn't pick it for my 16 run cause RNG screwed me
grim parcel
RNG is the ultimate final boss
mint coral
Are you using dark foresight? Helps a lot
mint coral
the bullets do 10 damage so makes sense
pure karma
Deadly Reversal only works if you deflect right? Not by just using an ability that can deflect\
grim parcel
i haven't really done much with aspects tbh because titan blood is so hard to get
mint coral
Deadly Reversal only works if you deflect right? Not by just using an ability th...
yeah, need to deflect
brisk trail
have u cleared the game?
Yo, anybody wanna vc while I turn my brain into mush grinding for darkness and prophecies?
if u have it gets a lot easier to get more tblood
grim parcel
no i haven't
grim parcel
i think i'm at over 80 attempts without a clear now
brisk trail
i haven't really done much with aspects tbh because titan blood is so hard to ge...
It gets easier the more you figure out the game and do higher heat bounties, or you could do it the hardeasier way and just grind to trade gemstones up to titan's blood, only 1K per titan blood total
thorny mirage
blowing yourself up for that sweet sweet dmg increase
thorny mirage
i think i'm at over 80 attempts without a clear now
what’s your major stumbling block?
grim parcel
theseus and asterius
brisk trail
theseus and asterius
Focus on asterius and stay behind the pillars
grim parcel
i have gotten past them a few times (even reached dad twice)
brisk trail
Having something like Zeus's special, aid, or things of that nature also help since they ignore the shield as I understand it
brisk trail
focus on asterius first and then go ham on theseus
brisk trail
i have gotten past them a few times (even reached dad twice)
Have you tried turning on Godmode?
i like having dionysus's aid or cast
makes clearing theseus ez
brisk trail
Have you tried turning on Godmode?
It's good if you are stuck and want to experience the game without so much hassle
Also the shield is p good vs hades
grim parcel
i tend to change my weapon to whatever has dark thirst for each run....maybe that's where i'm going wrong
brisk trail
Bruh 10,000 kills for Ares' prophecy
brisk trail
i tend to change my weapon to whatever has dark thirst for each run....maybe tha...
You'll get it eventually man, we believe in you 😄
brisk trail
Bruh 10,000 kills for Ares' prophecy
I never got the prophecy prompt, I'm over 10K kills rn 😦
grim parcel
Bruh 10,000 kills for Ares' prophecy
if you get skull spawners you can boost that easy
cbf getting the name right but it's pretty obvious the enemy i'm referring to
brisk trail
Lumpy skull hills
grim parcel
yeah that's the one
thorny mirage
whichever is the most money
brisk trail
whichever is the most money
None are money, but the chaos one is 25K darkness
thorny mirage
gray apex
i tend to change my weapon to whatever has dark thirst for each run....maybe tha...
I used to swap weapons quite often aswell, it’s up to your preference but either way it takes time and experience to learn what works best for each weapon, it’ll happen eventually but there are builds that don’t involve too much rng and are easy to aim for, you could ask for advice about a specific weapon/aspect in #h1-builds-and-combat if the game feels kinda stale for you
brisk trail
Theme Lovely and Infinite seem to be the most expensive
So gonna go for Infinite after I finish grinding Darkness for my mirror upgrades
chrome wharf
There was this fanficton scene where he was making out with Persephone but Zag reached the surface in the middle of it and he had to go fight him, and it's become my official explanation for FO Hades
chrome wharf
He probably thinks that way because he's seen the worst variant with Zeus
brisk trail
So with Golden touch, how many obols would you need to save to make it more profitable than Deep Pockets?
chrome wharf
also the woodland and Chthonic themes can be pretty tedious to do 25245 trades with the broker to get them
brisk trail
Less than 1K, but not much less, but like what's the golden number?
brisk trail
also the woodland and Chthonic themes can be pretty tedious to do 25245 trades w...
I mean woodland specifically is just an eventuality, once you increase your relationships to a certain point, so you'll gather nectar idly and be able to get it eventually
chrome wharf
it's a bit complicated since you proc it in every region
mint coral
why save when you can go poor each region anyways
brisk trail
~~why save when you can go poor each region anyways~~
for 0 heat titan's blood/diamonds
So Artemis is slightly upset to realise "all the other Olympians" were invited... But not all of them were? Ig she just means the ones in contact with zag?
wise oasis
Golden touch means you can't buy out the end shop and that's kinds cringe
chrome wharf
I wanna say it's worth if you end each boss fight with 220 moneys
brisk trail
Golden touch means you can't buy out the end shop and that's kinds cringe
I mean I don't buy out anyhow, I like saving it for the Styx shop since they're usually great, unless I need heals or max health for some reason
mint coral
I never find golden touch good compared to the early boost that you can get with deep pockets
chrome wharf
basically, the gold you're left with across all 3 boss should add up to 667 to hbe worth
brisk trail
Time to do an all olympian mirror upgrade run for laughs and ruin my 51 all time wins streak
wise oasis
I normally get more than enough gold from the tunnels themselves in styx to get anything I want from the shop there
brisk trail
I never find golden touch good compared to the early boost that you can get with...
Lol just fight Charon in Tartarus for a great boost
chrome wharf
(or do a 63/64 heat run)
wise oasis
And tartarus gold is tight, deep pockets is so good there
brisk trail
I normally get more than enough gold from the tunnels themselves in styx to get ...
But titan's blood is 1200, and Diamond is 1K, and I want my boons and anvil there
mint coral
Lol just fight Charon in Tartarus for a great boost
i mean i would fight him depending on the build but there is also rng to even do the fight
brisk trail
True
I just realized dark regenerator would be absolutely fantastic for me since I'm grinding darkness atm
mint coral
Just be careful on styx
wise oasis
I think I've bought the diamond/blood like once, so not really something I think about kek
Faster imo to just get op
mint coral
If you really want titan blood just increase that heat
brisk trail
Or find a titan and shank em
brisk trail
If you really want titan blood just increase that heat
I've got a 500 streak I'm going for, rather not risk it
wise oasis
What
mint coral
What kind of cursed heat options are you planning that playing to 20 heat is painful
brisk trail
I've got a 500 streak I'm going for, rather not risk it
Are you actually insane
brisk trail
What
My first win ever on Hades has chained into a 51 win streak so far
I'm a new player playing on my first save file, 81 runs, 51 wins
All in a row, thanks Godmode 😉
wise oasis
I have around 250 hours in the game, and I haven't even reached 500 attempts let alone clears
gray apex
Well you can always give up midrun and it wouldnt break your streak
mint coral
I thibk i've passed the 500 attempts but thats bc i resetted for certain boons a lot
brisk trail
Well you can always give up midrun and it wouldnt break your streak
I never said I wasn't gonna cheese it, so I've given up in the middle of a hades fight
I could realistically just do shield only for guaranteed mostly quick wins but that seems like it'd be boring
hushed pumice
I'm a new player playing on my first save file, 81 runs, 51 wins
Hope you're using Heat for the bounties
gray apex
Up the heat, live on the edge, get one shot
brisk trail
Hope you're using Heat for the bounties
I have 🙂
mint coral
20 heat doesnt even need to touch weird pacts
brisk trail
Hope you're using Heat for the bounties
People yelled at me for some super hard low heat options
62% damage reduction from godmode makes the game a cinch
wise oasis
20 heat doesnt even need to touch weird pacts
Em4 hl5 fo1 cp2 is a good 20 heat pact right
thorny mirage
hushed pumice
Em4 hl5 fo1 cp2 is a good 20 heat pact right
It's better than RI4 and AP2
mint coral
It's better than RI4 and AP2
Praying to rng: the game
wise oasis
It's better than RI4 and AP2
But what if ri4 ap1 em4
brisk trail
MM and BP2 for my 7 Heat arthur run, or could I make it even harder? Maybe DC2 instead of MM?
pure karma
Em4 hl5 fo1 cp2 is a good 20 heat pact right
Fo hell no
wise oasis
Dc2 on Arthur is absolute agony
hushed pumice
DC2 is awful for Arthur
mint coral
MM and BP2 for my 7 Heat arthur run, or could I make it even harder? Maybe DC2 i...
40 mins run incoming with arthur
wise oasis
Throw on fo1 while you're at it, Arthur is good at handling speed 
It's not too bad actually
hushed pumice
But you can get blade or drunk dash to help
pure karma
Hangover must completely decimate DC right?
wise oasis
But you can get blade or drunk dash to help
Drunken strike 
hushed pumice
Drunken dash helps clear the DC hearts
brisk trail
I got yelled at for DC2, CP3, and a bunch of other things to make tankier enemies one of my low heat runs
hushed pumice
Then you wham them with your sword
mint coral
Cp3 sounds painful, glad it doesnt exists
brisk trail
Then you wham them with your sword
hear me out, big number, 3rd strike in a combo artemis, technically one shot each enemy aside from DC2
brisk trail
CP2, EM2, MM for my 7 heat?
Doing that, so do I take this Zeus Erebus gate? Hmmmm
Yes, yes I do
And I get double strike 😄
woeful plank
Awesome !
thorny mirage
What rarity
pseudo osprey
My cats are named Artemis and Apollo, and I think Apollo is upset bc she isn't in the game cause she constantly sits directly in front of my computer as I play
brisk trail
What rarity
Rare
thorny mirage
Pog
brisk trail
Room 1 erebus gate that ended up giving me double strike, and first boon was Zeus's Special
Seems like a fun run, if I can find artemis strike
mint coral
Get aphro strike instead, aim for that sweet smoldering air
brisk trail
Get aphro strike instead, aim for that sweet smoldering air
Ew, no 😦
I want big number
I'll do aphro cast and Artemis strike for that sweet crit bonus damage
mint coral
Artemis gives you bit numbers 15% of the times, aphro gives great damage all the time
Also smoldering > rod
brisk trail
Enshrouded ambush is so honestly tempting, but 5 rooms without a clue about room rewards? When i'm aiming for specific god pools?
raw herald
What chamber are you on
brisk trail
What chamber are you on
7
raw herald
It will probably be fine tbh
brisk trail
Fair
raw herald
If you take that curse right before a boss fight, it's free
brisk trail
Rare eclipse though? But I'm not on my darkness grind run, this is a bounty run 😭
lone kernel
ngl, enshrouded can be pretty fun haha
brisk trail
OOH DOUBLE NOVA ZEUS SPECIAL DOUBLESTRIKE ON CHAMBER 8?
Special only run maybe?
Now I'm lowkey sad about not taking the Flourish from Chaos
brisk trail
Left or right boys
wise oasis
Left best
brisk trail
Someone break the tie?
pseudo osprey
right?
deep comet
Yay
brisk trail
Tie has been broken
deep comet
brisk trail
I'll let you know if it was Artemis's Mythical attack boon or something cringe
deep comet
No cool
brisk trail
And no choice for the next chamber
deep comet
Which area are you at @brisk trail
brisk trail
This is why I wish there was a vc here so I could stream shenanigans
deep comet
And no choice for the next chamber
Ok
brisk trail
Which area are you at <@456226577798135808>
Tartarus, just enjoying the mystery of how my run will end up
deep comet
Tartarus, just enjoying the mystery of how my run will end up
Noice
rapid forum
if there was VC right, someone could choose the boons for you while you're the one suffering
deep comet
Yeah that would be cool
brisk trail
Do I Pom double strike for 40% chance, or more damage on the zeus special
brisk trail
if there was VC right, someone could choose the boons for you while you're the o...
I wanna do that so much rn
deep comet
Do I Pom double strike for 40% chance, or more damage on the zeus special
Zeus upgrade
brisk trail
Cya 🙂
pseudo osprey
I came to talk about my cats tbh
brisk trail
I came to talk about my cats tbh
Ooh, I wanna hear about cats
pseudo osprey
my cats are named Artemis and Apollo
pseudo osprey
apollo doesn't like that she isn't in the game so she regularly sits directly in front of my computer whi;le I play
pure karma
Two of my cats are named Achilles and Hermes
brisk trail
my cats are named Artemis and Apollo
Can I have cat pics?
pseudo osprey
oh absolutely I'd post them here but I don't thinK i can
brisk trail
My cats are named tigger and smokey... Wish I picked more geeky names lol
brisk trail
oh absolutely I'd post them here but I don't thinK i can
You can send them to me if you want 😄
rapid forum
My cats are named tigger and smokey... Wish I picked more geeky names lol
like Ulfthermeow
brisk trail
I did have two fish, batman and robin but they died when my dad unknowingly bought a third diseased fish
brisk trail
like Ulfthermeow
Fluffy, can I get in that server if it has a vc where I can play and talk about Hades?
brisk trail
well no, they stopped playing hades
Well do you wanna vc?
rapid forum
sorry but no
thorny mirage
Ack dangit
brisk trail
Fair enough 😄
thorny mirage
died to dad when he was almost done
deep comet
brisk trail
68 coins from golden touch floor 1, might be great for hoarding slash
Anyways
What is the hardest color of hydra?
brisk trail
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/357447124385792000/891687072706994196/i...
KITTY!
Catto
Cat
gray apex
Anyways
What is the hardest color of hydra?
Orange probably
plush oar
hmmm I don't get this lie we are telling the olimpians even after the epilogue (like the true true ending)
deep comet
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/357447124385792000/891687072706994196/i...
I love kitties
brisk trail
I JUST GOT 5 ZEUS DASH DOUBLE STRIKE PROCS
Statistically, that's 3/10^5
.00243% chance of that happening
manic bobcat
Is Lernie a cat or a dog?
lone kernel
Is Lernie a cat or a dog?
snek
brisk trail
Is Lernie a cat or a dog?
Sea serpent/reptile
lone kernel
is snek
pseudo osprey
Hydra has legs in almost all depictions of it on land, so can't be snek
well, snakes are basically cats, to my knowledge
brisk trail
well, snakes are basically cats, to my knowledge
I don't know about that one chief
pseudo osprey
weird looking cats, I'll admit, but they are valid
brisk trail
I thought a hydra was a type of dragon... Maybe I thought that because of dark souls
pseudo osprey
i mean it is in myth i think... like I've only heard of it as a dragon
brisk trail
Wait that makes no sense hydras don't have legs or wings lol
brisk trail
But then again oriental dragons don't have wings
manic bobcat
Hydras is a hydra
brisk trail
Yeah okay ik but I think in dark souls they're a lesser breed of dragon or something
manic bobcat
Sir, this is Hades
pseudo osprey
dragons, much like gamers, can be anything
manic bobcat
Gamer moment
brisk trail
"good gamer" more rare than you think 😔
brisk trail
Wait that makes no sense hydras don't have legs or wings lol
Wyrm
manic bobcat
This one looks more tame than our Lernie tbh
brisk trail
Why are they fighting it nude
brisk trail
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Hercules_slaying_the_Hydra.j...
This do be Heracles and his nephew cauterizing the neck of the hydra
brisk trail
Why are they fighting it nude
Why aren't you fighting the Hydra nude?
manic bobcat
Why are they fighting it nude
You don't?
brisk trail
What is that lobster doing there
That looks more like a scorpion with a flat tail pincer
He mistook him for Achilles and was trying to slay him
manic bobcat
Lobster 🦞
crude oxide
is arthur and artemis good?
manic bobcat
Yes
crude oxide
k lemme put on my arrowhead then
brisk trail
I like how he's just trying to bonk it with a big club
crude oxide
heat 4 clear time
brisk trail
What
brisk trail
Is Meg a cat or a dog?
Meg is a fury
manic bobcat
Furry?
brisk trail
I'd say cat but she kinda gives off the vibe she wants zag to be more dominant with her lol
So maybe dog
brisk trail
Wilding
manic bobcat
signal aspen
beowulf is hera if you have charged shot
and guan yu is basically a bow with charged skewer
same with zag spear and hades spear
thorny mirage
true
manic bobcat
And imposter tier
signal aspen
sus
manic bobcat
Because Chiron
brisk trail
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/802615525141643265/888815532978081853/u...
Can I get a link to make my own tier list thingy?
oak gull
Is Meg a cat or a dog?
She's a bat.
brisk trail
With one wing
Makes me think can she combine with her sisters like they're power rangers or something lol
heady cypress
Guys I just beat Charon without using a dd
brisk trail
Nice job boyo
heady cypress
Thanks pal
Boi
Zagreus
Child
Boyo/Pal
Boss
Little godling
Nephew
Little hades
Prince Z
thorny mirage
Can I get a link to make my own tier list thingy?
heady cypress
Boi
Zagreus
Child
Boyo/Pal
Boss
Little godling
Nephew
Little hades
Prince Z
I love how basically everyone has a new name for him
heady cypress
I completely forgot about dionysus
I don't like his boons for some reason
Even tho it's nice to get free nectar every now and then
covert zenith
I love Strong Drink
brisk trail
Yeah that's pretty good as a safety net in Styx
covert zenith
Just in general
Make sure health is full going into an area and bonus damage
Even higher if you come across a random fountain
burnt breach
I don't see final form aegis on your tier list
thorny mirage
smh
covert zenith
Beowulf is there
brisk trail
Someone doesn't like the rail lol
burnt breach
Beowulf is there
that's not final form lol
thorny mirage
wdym final form aegis
halcyon smelt
how do you not like the rail it has everything
signal aspen
i think thats the aspect that throws every aspect together
brisk trail
Put zeus aspect too low
I didn't want to flood the chat with a single image, otherwise it would be thousands of rows away
thorny mirage
dang
burnt breach
wdym final form aegis
this is final form aegis
https://streamable.com/vfd7x2
brisk trail
how do you not like the rail it has everything
Rail bad, reload bad
The rail doesn't stagger therefore I hate it because skill issue
thorny mirage
delta chamber
brisk trail
*this* is final form aegis
https://streamable.com/vfd7x2
Put ut slightly lower than Zeus Aspect
it*
thorny mirage
but
signal aspen
thorny mirage
It’s more zeus aspect
brisk trail
I don't hate the rail but I much prefer bow and spear
signal aspen
its the same thing but better
rapid forum
*this* is final form aegis
https://streamable.com/vfd7x2
oh I want that
brisk trail
It’s more zeus aspect
But tainted by inferior aspects
thorny mirage
True
burnt breach
It’s more zeus aspect
it's far more than zeus
it's all the aspects combined at their full power
covert zenith
What weapon?
brisk trail
it's all the aspects combined at their full power
It's mediocre at what zeus does, only helping with AOE, worse at what Chaos does, and the bull rush isn't as wide as it normally is on beowulf
thorny mirage
Fists of course
covert zenith
Of course
maiden bane
Just saw a blue money pot.. what
burnt breach
It's mediocre at what zeus does, only helping with AOE, worse at what Chaos does...
lol what?
thorny mirage
bull rush is bigger when you put casts in it psire
signal aspen
they have a point i think
covert zenith
Well you know there are strict requirements for ME
Try to get Divine Strike and Dash
thorny mirage
demeter aspect why not
signal aspen
Well you know there are strict requirements for ME
Try to get Divine Strike and ...
why divine strike
brisk trail
I like when the lightning goes bzzzzchhhhh
covert zenith
In either order
Not imo but you can
covert zenith
I do Ares special
signal aspen
stinky
burnt breach
I don't know how it's physically possible to think it's worse than zeus
brisk trail
What if... It's a single player game so "meta" isn't really relevant and having fun with whatever is probably more varied and enjoyable
But hey that's just a theory
A game theory
raw herald
Time to swap to Zeus shield
brisk trail
52 wins in a row ever, biggest flex I can give you
halcyon smelt
passed 100
halcyon smelt
52 wins in a row ever, biggest flex I can give you
damn
brisk trail
BUT I AM ONE FOE OFF 25K
lone kernel
yeah lol do that
brisk trail
go into a run and kill one enemy and then kill yourself
And end the 52 run streak?
signal aspen
maybe
chrome wharf
Streaks are temporary
Good numbers are forever
halcyon smelt
damn thats deep
brisk trail
Can a number be inherently good, an abstract concept perceived by our small mortal minds?
Is there inherent goodness in anything?
chrome wharf
signal aspen
Can a number be inherently good, an abstract concept perceived by our small mort...
uh yeah probably
chrome wharf
halcyon smelt
too much sync
peak forum
So uhh quick question, how do I actually permanently upgrade my weapon? I don't have the option to even though I have all six weapons
signal aspen
So uhh quick question, how do I actually permanently upgrade my weapon? I don't ...
do a run and then you will get them
heady cypress
How do you post pics here I want to show yall my fav npc:3
raw herald
Post to Imgur then copy and paste the link
signal aspen
post the pic somewhere else and then post the link here
heady cypress
pure karma
I actually cannot get Rip Current
pure karma
Ofc I get Zeus/Poseidon Duo but not rip current
gaunt ridge
my dumb brain using Blitz Shield for the first time so this is massive.
high island
Ofc I get Zeus/Poseidon Duo but not rip current
Opening up the Duo Boon in their pool hurt your chances of getting Rip Current quite a bit.
thorny mirage
ME has been secured
wraith coyote
Hi everyone i have maybe a dumb question , i have seen quite a lot of railgun players use all their ammo like a shotgun, is there a way you can replicate that? Its mostly with the hestia aspect
twin thistle
Hi everyone i have maybe a dumb question , i have seen quite a lot of railgun pl...
well hestia shot doesnt use up all the ammo but you do reload immediately afterwards which empties it so yeah should be hestia
pure karma
Opening up the Duo Boon in their pool hurt your chances of getting Rip Current q...
I just had flood shot and lighting strike
forgot about that boon
heady cypress
I just saw spoilers due to Greek mythology
twin thistle
I just had flood shot and lighting strike
hmmm no poseidon call?
pure karma
No it never appeared. I know Rip Current requires it. I am just saying that I got a duo and all its requirements before that. And I actually hunted for it. Use Conch Shell too.
thorny mirage
Should’ve taken some keys for rerolling
Also it’s funny because I saw your message and immediately was offered both unshakeable mettle and rip current
chrome wharf
I got Rip Current offered out of prophecy Once across 2 complete files
and didn't even take it because Razor Shoals was there
signal aspen
Zeus shield
formal sinew
Malphon
thorny mirage
favorite weapon is probably stygius or coronacht
Tho I have a new appreciation for exagryph
late acorn
now I know why Patroclus is called run-saver.
Patroclus has saved so many runs of mine
little dragon
https://twitter.com/Nickles31587028/status/1442164738721521670?s=09
my favorite shade is the one that died of thirst
heady cypress
I don't know that one
dusky wedge
Does anyone compile all those shade talk in the House? Would loved to read all of it
signal aspen
wish me luck
gl
pure karma
Need that statue
signal aspen
Nyaanyaa's 32 Heat Guide
HL5 LC4 CF2 EM3 BP2 MM UC TD3
Stubborn Defiance
probably this
raw herald
Just be quick
signal aspen
go fast lmao
alpine sierra
sorry Hades you may be extreme measures but there's a fishing spot right in front of you so
you gonna have to move aside
I want a trout
rose fox
"This fish is mocking me."
alpine sierra
oh this fight is going terribly so far.
raw herald
But no FO makes it better
alpine sierra
I forgot he summons mini bosses uuuuuuugh
raw herald
Damn HL5 is really, really bad
What weapon are you using?
pure karma
Demeter Fists
thorny mirage
Alright so
pure karma
But I have Fo
raw herald
Fists are quite hard for high heat
thorny mirage
merciful end is fun
alpine sierra
Fists are fun as hell
like idk necessarily how good they are since you're basically running into danger's face and saying "try me" but they're the most fun weapon by far for me
raw herald
All weapons can be powerful
thorny mirage
Yeah
raw herald
Not all weapons can be powerful and safe at the same time
thorny mirage
my ME run with demeter fists was dope
raw herald
Watch Tailesque
alpine sierra
dad is beating the daylights out of me
thorny mirage
Dash strike
thorny mirage
Idk what shared agony is supposed to be
So when enemies have shared suffering on
they take sort of additional damage
heady cypress
So when enemies have shared suffering on
The symbol/debuff the special causes?
thorny mirage
So if you had two other enemies with shared suffering
and hit one of them
All 3 would take some damage
rose fox
Oh, I've been using Rama wrong then
mint coral
tag the whole room then dash strike one of them to kill everything
thorny mirage
If rama’s too slow for you
raw herald
However if 2 enemies have shared suffering and you hit both of them with one shot, they take double shared suffering damage
mint coral
zag
alpine sierra
PHASE 3 and im out of death defiances
raw herald
And JS3 CP2 TD3
alpine sierra
it all ends here bois
pure karma
Ok I got out of Tartarus at least
signal aspen
it all ends here bois
not yet
alpine sierra
oh my god I died immediately
heady cypress
Any build recommendations for Rama?
thorny mirage
zag <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
if I do zag I’ll be compelled to do the monthly challenge
signal aspen
thorny mirage
and NO
heady cypress
I just want to get a clear with 9heat(27 minute limit and em3)
raw herald
Twin/triple shot are the most important things to have
manic bobcat
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/884460755053846628/Scr...
cursed material
thorny mirage
alright arthur won’t be too bad with td3 right
heady cypress
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/884460755053846628/Scr...
So basically ME
Is that divine dash?
thorny mirage
that’s a meme
thorny mirage
lemme check
heady cypress
that’s a meme
Wait it is?
thorny mirage
memey run
signal aspen
Is that divine dash?
its just a normal ME build but with rama and doom on special
mint coral
So basically ME
genereic build(tm) for rama would be artemis/aphro attack, zeus/ares/dio on special
raw herald
And hunter dash
heady cypress
genereic build(tm) for rama would be artemis/aphro attack, zeus/ares/dio on spec...
Tm?
thorny mirage
fastest clear time is like 13.55
heady cypress
Idk any terminology in hades
raw herald
Alright TD3 should be fine then
thorny mirage
trying to cut down time for all weapons kekw
raw herald
Free even
rapid zinc
Got hades today it’s pretty good
raw herald
Yep
manic bobcat
it's ok
raw herald
You can see it faintly
rapid zinc
I got to the 3rd boss and almost beat them 😭
raw herald
Better if you use light mode
heady cypress
Better if you use light mode
No that's NOT better
twin thistle
light mode
rapid zinc
What weapon would youse say is the best I personally like the spear
raw herald
They're all good if you know what you're doing
twin thistle
the one you like
rapid zinc
I don’t lmao
heady cypress
Was a malphon fan until I found out how op hera is
twin thistle
bow/rail/shield have some of the better aspects imo though
thorny mirage
So uh
twin thistle
achilles spear is great though
rapid zinc
I’m still on my first run should I just focus on playing the game
twin thistle
well yeah lol?
rapid zinc
Did u get to the boss
heady cypress
Which hammers should I get for rama
dusky wedge
What weapon would youse say is the best I personally like the spear
Rail
dusky wedge
Or Eris, specifically
pure karma
Did u get to the boss
Not yet
thorny mirage
Again
thorny mirage
never repulse shot
mint coral
explosive shot if you want to throw the run (not really but is a giant meme)
thorny mirage
No
raw herald
Explosive triple was how I got my Rama sub 10
thorny mirage
Im a giant meme
raw herald
I have since lowered it with perfect twin
heady cypress
Twin/triple and perfect/point blank
Got twin
mint coral
have fun one shotting each phase of the sisters battle
heady cypress
Nothing atm
heady cypress
And are you power shotting
Yes
heady cypress
Nothing atm
But +70% or sumn won't help me that much if I want to oneshot their phases right?
thorny mirage
Oh yeah shared suffering applies to singular targets too
raw herald
I once got triple flurry point blank from an anvil on zag bow
Dad melted
Fight took 34 seconds iirc
hushed pumice
Without em4 I take it
thorny mirage
Yep
thorny mirage
humble brag
signal aspen
exactly
signal aspen
bouldy says "nice"
pure karma
Do I get a second shade in the Elysium arena?
signal aspen
no 😔
pure karma
What do I have to do...
signal aspen
buy hades dlc
twin thistle
forever that will be your single fan
heady cypress
Is there a way to reduce the time Rama needs to charge?
twin thistle
Is there a way to reduce the time Rama needs to charge?
not for dash strikes
signal aspen
Is there a way to reduce the time Rama needs to charge?
charge it faster
twin thistle
not like you have to always do a full charge
twin thistle
thats one way
hermes' swift strike only affects standing shots and not dash strikes so its pretty much completely useless
signal aspen
nice
mint coral
chaos just gave me 2 +70% attack boons with rama, nice
signal aspen
not even +69% smh
heady cypress
I just took 6dmg while having 7 hp
Still alive cuz I managed to do em2 Learnie hitless
thorny mirage
hammer gave me cursed slash
mint coral
rip
heady cypress
What's that
signal aspen
nice
thorny mirage
also like
twin thistle
get flurry slash for the meme
thorny mirage
Godawful for arthur lmao
mint coral
doesnt even apply to dash strike
mint coral
time to bully tiny vermin
heady cypress
Just had to leave a hammer cuz I have 110 hp in elysium
mint coral
is probably gonna appear again anyways
heady cypress
Yeah got it 1room later
I'm in agony just did an infernal chest and left the reward
chrome wharf
rip
you'll get them next time
thorny mirage
Castss
reef zodiac
Cursed slash is the worst hammer in the game imo
high island
Cursed slash is the worst hammer in the game imo
I'll take Cursed Slash over Flurry Slash at high heat.
reef zodiac
I wouldn’t tbh
high island
And then you would die.
reef zodiac
You’re saying you wouldn’t die at high heat with -60% health?
What downside does flurry have that’s worse than that?
high island
I made high heat High Confidence Guan Yu popular. 
reef zodiac
Ok?
Flurry slash does nothing. Slightly worse than nothing
But cursed slash does much much worse than nothing
Especially at high heat
high island
Flurry Slash makes it impossible to do a Dash-Strike without getting a normal Attack right after or dash out of a normal Attack without getting a Dash-Attack.
reef zodiac
Yeah that’s pretty terrible
I’d still prefer that over the instant death that Cursed Slash all but guarantees at high heat
I just can’t imagine a context where flurry is worse than cursed
high island
40% HP when you can easily keep your HP capped is more than the 30% you normally get from Stubborn Defiance.
reef zodiac
Do dash strikes heal with cursed slash?
high island
No.
heady cypress
How do you get the rare fish for the poseidon prophecy?
reef zodiac
Normal attacks are awful for sword, hence why flurry slash is so bad
dusky wedge
How do you get the rare fish for the poseidon prophecy?
Perfect catch your fish, and get Poseidon’s Huge Catch
high island
How do you get the rare fish for the poseidon prophecy?
You need to get a perfect catch, which means you'll have to react fast. Perfect catches have a 50% chance of being a rare fish.
heady cypress
That's it?
high island
Normal attacks are awful for sword, hence why flurry slash is so bad
No, it's so bad because of what I just explained it does to your dash.
mint coral
rama is such a satisfactory aspect, power shot go brrrrrrrr
heady cypress
I'm trying to slow down a bit so I don't react to the wrong thing
reef zodiac
No, it's so bad because of what I just explained it does to your dash.
Where it forces you to do a normal attack which is a complete downside because they’re so worthless
heady cypress
Btw why does Chaos have a little face on their forehead it looks like a "OwO"
Or more like a o_o
dusky wedge
🙂
heady cypress
That's better
pure karma
Flurry Slash on Arthur best hammer
dusky wedge
Wait, that’s illegal
mint coral
cant get it
oak gull
sadly
high island
Where it forces you to do a normal attack which is a complete downside because t...
No, because it prevents you from getting i-frames after a normal Attack or leaves you vulnerable after a Dash-Attack. It will get you killed.
The normal Attack at high heat is decent enough to let you get some hits in and still have your dash to i-frame any attacks. Very valuable in boss fights.
reef zodiac
Alright but you know when else will get you killed? Having 20/40 max health (depending on if you have RI)
high island
Cursed Slash at least has the potential to get you more HP in a fight than you would normally have. At some point when you go high enough in heat, you'd just reset if you get forced into either hammer, anyway, but at least you can still play well with Cursed Slash and not get completely screwed over.
oak gull
without I-frames, you are properly ploughed
high island
And like I said, 40% is more than 30%.
reef zodiac
But how about 30% of 40%?
oak gull
tbh, it is unlikely you get three run-destroying hammer options at the same time
reef zodiac
Because that’s what you’ll have at high heat
high island
tbh, it is unlikely you get three run-destroying hammer options at the same time
AP1 and AP2 are commonly used at very high heats. That's where that can happen.
reef zodiac
I definitely still think that CS is worse, but either way those are definitely the two worst hammers in the game and it’s not close
high island
Worst for what purposes, though? Cursed Slash has carried a lot of players to their first victory.
reef zodiac
And I’m sure flurry slash has too, for people who don’t dash strike
That doesn’t really mean anything though
high island
Haven't heard of anyone being carried to their first victory by Flurry Slash. Cursed Slash comes up a lot, though.
It does mean something.
reef zodiac
Anything can carry anyone at that difficulty
pure karma
Flurry Slash with zeus strike might work I guess
high island
No.
pure karma
ok no
reef zodiac
My first victory was carried by stubborn roots, my second by tidal dash
Anything can carry a first victory. I don’t count that for anything
It only really means anything to me if it works at a difficulty where anything else doesn’t
pure karma
lol I cant
reef zodiac
I’ve had victories carried by Ares’ Aid
pure karma
I already know what will carry me in my first 32 heat victory. Some zeus build where I get everything.
reef zodiac
If every single boon and hammer is perfectly fine because the game is pretty easy boonless, then it doesn’t mean much to me if something carried a run
pure karma
Nyann
I tried your recs for 32 heat
But TD 3 is too fast for me.
What else do you recommend
reef zodiac
Quick favor could carry any low heat shield run. Just pick up a call, then block in the corner for a minute and 40 seconds, then full call, and repeat. Doesn’t mean quick favor is very good.
pure karma
I hear you
pure karma
Thing is it stresses me out too much
reef zodiac
It takes practice to get used to
narrow hemlock
not really liking the vibe here with all this "just because this thing is fine at low difficulty doesnt mean its good" talk
reef zodiac
not really liking the vibe here with all this "just because this thing is fine a...
Literally every boon and hammer and aspect and mirror option is good at low difficulty. What do you want me to say?
pure karma
I have managed to reach Theseus and Mino all the time I have tried 32 heat (4 times) but I just run out of time in the fight
The greatshields take too much time
narrow hemlock
Literally every boon and hammer and aspect and mirror option is good at low diff...
i want you to have less of a superiority complex about gameplay because it's pretty offputting to constantly pop in and see some kind of gameplay disagreement you're in the middle of
maybe tone it back a little
reef zodiac
The greatshields take too much time
Greatshields can really be a time-sink, I definitely relate to that. Especially with bad benefits from BP2
narrow hemlock
let people just. play the game
narrow hemlock
a lot of times it comes ff as you stating something as an objective fact, rather than just offering an opinion
reef zodiac
Of course it’s not objective fact
reef zodiac
Up to you
thorny mirage
i could try hunting blades
raw herald
All of them
pure karma
What cast to take for achilles
Try Trippy Shot
reef zodiac
Hunting Blades is a lot of fun
pure karma
All of them
Even... Artemis?
high island
Could you perhaps move your discussion to DMs? 
reef zodiac
Who?
reef zodiac
That discussion has ended already
pure karma
So person with "Nyaanyaa Mewmew" username, yellow letters and Aerith (?) avatar
About my question, what would you recommend I replace TD3 with for 32 heat
gaunt geyser
just had the funnest run ever were i just went basically all ares and got so many spinning blades on dash cast and call + hunting blades + ares legendary + chaos bonus cast + all of ares boosting boons for spinng blades
it was very amazing
high island
Only Lady Aphrodite can call me Nyaan.
high island
I wouldn't recommend you replace TD3. It just takes a bit more practice.
high island
You misspelled my name.
pure karma
oh my god
raw herald
And I didn't?
thorny mirage
you just got blocked
high island
And I didn't?
high island
If you replace TD3 with something else, you'll just run into other problems instead.
brisk trail
Max heat is hilarious
high island
If you can make it that far, it's just a matter of saving some time here and there in encounters.
raw herald
You can't, but it's not usually 32 heat where that's the case
brisk trail
Just a tidal wave of knuckle heads going at super sonic speeds
high island
Well, it's still far from a speedrun. A good speedrun IGT is sub 10. You only need a time around 20m for TD3.
reef zodiac
You can't avoid basically speedrunning in higher heat, can you?
It’s not really speedrunning. With a bit of practice, the timer will stop being an issue at all
manic bobcat
it's just running
high island
But speedrun tactics help a lot. You're ultimately facing the same types of enemies and using the same aspects and boons, so the more effectively and efficiently you can deal with them, the better you'll do.
high island
That's good.
pure karma
I also adopted the habit of not playing Lucifer
high island
Probably just a couple different build decisions or a bit more practice away from making it past Elysium.. or even just more luck with rooms and enemies.
manic bobcat
I adopted the habit of pausing before doors to think where to go
there was a period when i played so much ftl and hades that I tried pausing in moba games, too
pure karma
I am gonna have to use Beowulf I guess. Poseidon cast never disappoints. And a shield means I can tank things.
FTL is a great game btw.
high island
Beowulf is a good pick if you're comfortable with it.
pure karma
Beowulf and Hera have become my favorite aspects.
reef zodiac
Perfect, because Beo is a top 3 high heat aspect imo
Hera unfortunately feels kinda rough past 32 heat but Beo doesn’t fall off until 61
pure karma
Then comes Demeter fists and then Arthur. I don't think I can do this high heat right now with Arthur though.
reef zodiac
32 heat Arthur isn’t too bad
high island
Doing TD2 with Excalibur is probably fine.
pure karma
I don't like any of the spears. Except maybe Achilles I guess. But if I wanna do a cast build, I go Beowulf or Hera anyway.
thorny mirage
I got to dad with arthur and td3
reef zodiac
I beat 40 heat with Arthur (TD3)
Ok I don’t know if this is a hot take but I think magnetic cutter is a downside
I think that max level Talos fists is worse than unupgraded fists
And this is coming from someone who used to main Talos a while ago
modern garnet
You would rather have an uppercut that doesn't bring enemies to you?
thorny mirage
also talos buffs cast dmg by 50%
modern garnet
Oh I see, I didn't realize it was slower
reef zodiac
It’s way slower
thorny mirage
50% cast bonus tho
reef zodiac
It’s all damage actually
thorny mirage
after using special
reef zodiac
But the special is so slow that it’s not worth using even with the 50% damage buff
Imo
high island
It's not global damage. It's Attack and Cast damage.
thorny mirage
I think that saying it’s worse than unupgraded fists is a tad exaggerated
reef zodiac
Well it’s definitely much worse than Zag fists (imo)
split owl
For Harsh Conditions, do you just need to do 1 level for each of those? Like Jury Summons 1, etc?
high island
I think Talos is fun.
high island
For Harsh Conditions, do you just need to do 1 level for each of those? Like Jur...
Yes.
reef zodiac
I think Talos is fun.
I’m not arguing against that
modern garnet
Dodge chance is better than it sounds
thick cypress
what's the best aspect for the fists?
reef zodiac
I’d say attack and cast bonus is better than
Well again I view the magnetic cutter as worse than a normal special
reef zodiac
what's the best aspect for the fists?
Demeter
thorny mirage
demeter imo
high island
m a bit tired of arguing which is marginally between two aspects or whatever. There's been so much of that lately.
high island
what's the best aspect for the fists?
Whichever one you enjoy the most.
thorny mirage
Demeter’s pretty simple and has beeg numbahs
formal sinew
I use dodge chance because it helps me most. Can be raised and if they cant hit you, they cant deal damage
reef zodiac
m a bit tired of arguing which is marginally between two aspects or whatever. Th...
That fair. I just wonder if anyone else believes that magnetic cutter is a downside?
formal sinew
Me. I do not like magnetic cutter at high heat
modern garnet
When do you ever use the special on zag fists? I don't understand fist special
thick cypress
Whichever one you enjoy the most.
reef zodiac
When do you ever use the special on zag fists? I don't understand fist special
Dash uppers can be pretty good, especially with explosive upper
formal sinew
When do you ever use the special on zag fists? I don't understand fist special
Just get hammer that turns it into a charged shot
pure karma
Dodge chance is actually good at high numbers. I took plume for a whole run and I could actually feel the dodge very much.
split owl
Where is the thing that tells you how many fish you've caught? It says there should be a work order for it, but I'm not seeing anything in the contractor..do I need to do something to unlock access to it?
reef zodiac
Just get hammer that turns it into a charged shot
Ehh I don’t like kinetic launcher personally
reef zodiac
Where is the thing that tells you how many fish you've caught? It says there sho...
Right next to the fish guy where you sell the fish
pure karma
Where is the thing that tells you how many fish you've caught? It says there sho...
Is it the aquarium in the lounge?
modern garnet
Imagine if your dash uppers could inflict a debuff onto your enemies that makes them take more damage. That would be really good i think
reef zodiac
Yeah and if it took twice as long to come out
high island
Shots fired.
reef zodiac
Meaning it’s too slow to use effectively
high island
I'll give you a better one.
It should also make enemies do +50% damage to Zagreus.
That's what that needs.
reef zodiac
Yeah and if it took twice as long to come out
I think it’s more than twice actually, but I could be wrong
pure karma
What if it had a doom-like effect?
thorny mirage
and what if
high island
But it takes 3.6x as long to proc.
reef zodiac
That sounds really bad 
thorny mirage
I wish rend didn’t make you take 50% more damage
at the very least I wish the damage penalty wasn’t higher than the damage given buff
high island
I honestly can't tell much of a difference in clear speed or clear consistency between Zag Fists and Talos regardless of Heat. They're about equally good.
I know Hadesprofessor hates Talos lol.
So much that he added "I hate talos" as a note when he submitted his Talos WR at 50 lol.
reef zodiac
I find there to be a pretty sizable difference personally. Talos feels absolutely awful to play. I’d probably say it and Gil are gonna be the hardest 40 heat for me by a lot
high island
Which btw was promptly beaten by Retrash by 1 Heat the next day lol.
modern garnet
Do people who run talos at high levels use rupture?
Is rupture talos worse than it sounds
reef zodiac
Rupture is great but why specifically talos? You think it’s gonna do much to drag normal enemies a short distance to do a quick 40 damage to them?
They’re probably gonna be moving anyway
So I’d imagine it does next to nothing
modern garnet
Talos is one of the only ways to force enemies to move, idk
high island
Talos builds at high heat are just regular Malphon builds with maybe a decent Cast slapped on.
And speedruns are Merciful End, anyway.
reef zodiac
Talos is one of the only ways to force enemies to move, idk
Right but enemies tend to move anyway
Using special also doesn’t move them for much time, doing a maximum of two rupture ticks
modern garnet
Ok I get it
reef zodiac
Yeah makes sense
thorny mirage
Heroic splash dash pog
maiden bane
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/891346768468516874/S...
Sigma setup 👀
brisk trail
Sigma male grindset
raw herald
No.
reef zodiac
brisk trail
Got a problem with sigmas?
dusky wedge
So I finally got my 9:59 run, it’s a sub 10min run, but… it was on God Mode, and I obviously abused High Confidence for more damage. It felt… bad
The sub 10min run… still eludes me so far
thorny mirage
hey man it’s cool