Would be fun
#h1-discussion
mint coral
wraith garnet
is Hades mostly accurate to Greek mythology character wise
rapid forum
are you talking about the game or more specifically Hades/dad/the guy with impossible beard?
modern garnet
There's only so much accuracy they can do when the Greek myth isn't even accurate to itself sometimes
junior terrace
Ok I’m back lol, how worth are chaos boons
leaden geyser
a lot
rapid forum
as worth as their curse
modern garnet
Chaos boons really strong
junior terrace
Like if I come upon one should I almost always get it
rapid forum
if you're midway through a biome, never take the one that hides chamber previews
wraith garnet
are you talking about the game or more specifically Hades/dad/the guy with impos...
the game
game
minor widget
Which dice trait do you guys prefer, persuasion or authority?
gentle mason
Like if I come upon one should I almost always get it
Based on what you have said about your progress, I would be willing to take Chaos in the first two biomes, but not Elysium. Also, always be aware if the curse would still be active for the boss of the biome.
rapid forum
the game
well they tried their best to be as accurate as possible. But it's more of interpretation? of how it actually goes. What riddler said, Greek myth is sometimes not accurate to itself.
leaden geyser
Which dice trait do you guys prefer, persuasion or authority?
persuasion if i want to force a specific build, authority if im just messing around
but most of the times persuasion because i don't like getting griefed by chaos
gentle mason
Which dice trait do you guys prefer, persuasion or authority?
Persuasion
junior terrace
Based on what you have said about your progress, I would be willing to take Chao...
Gotcha
minor widget
Neat thanks
junior terrace
Also is it possible for me to have more than one duo boon?
leaden geyser
yes
gentle mason
Also is it possible for me to have more than one duo boon?
Yes, you can have many duos
junior terrace
Alright sweet
junior terrace
Can’t get this duo boon I’m looking for but I’ve gotten some others
rapid forum
example, you can't get hunting blades and freezing vortex
you have to pick either
though it's a clear choice
unless you're memeing
or you're playing Slicing Flare
junior terrace
Wow man
This build I’m using with aphro Artemis is nuts
That’s the fastest I’ve ever cleared the hydra
gentle mason
Can’t get this duo boon I’m looking for but I’ve gotten some others
I've had 4 Duo Boons in a single run before and the Duo you are looking for (Heart Rend) isn't excluded by another Duo Boon like the examples of Hunting Blades & Freezing Vortex.
rapid forum
what weapon are you using?
mint coral
Zag bow
junior terrace
If I get the thing from the shop that increases the rarity of my next boon
Does that mean higher chance for duo?
mint coral
Yup
gentle mason
Does that mean higher chance for duo?
yes
junior terrace
Sweet
Choosing between perfect shot and point blank I’m guess point blank would be better?
Since I’m dash striking anyways
rapid forum
either is fine, if you want to learn power shot, go for perfect shot
junior terrace
Oh I’ve already got the double shot too
gentle mason
Choosing between perfect shot and point blank I’m guess point blank would be bet...
Point blank seems right if you aren't using power shots
gentle mason
Oh I’ve already got the double shot too
Twin Shot & Point Blank are a good combo
stoic flame
bonkers damage
rapid forum
or
if you want to go full bananas
Explosive + Triple shot
it's slow, the animation time is painful, but dang... the beeg damage makes my monke brain happy
mint coral
Anvil can give you point blank for even more fun 
Only downside is that you have to take anvil
gentle mason
The anvil is so risky, you can easily sink your build with it.
rapid forum
pro tip
if you pick anvil
and you don't like it
just quit
and go back
save scum baby
mint coral
I only take anvil when it cant go worse
short glen
...is it really that easy?
rapid forum
yea
kind swan
Does Nectarine Boulder do anything?
rapid forum
it'll give you random small buff in that run
mint coral
Oh yeah funny anvil story
For my first 32 heat instead of buying pom i buyed anvil and it ruined cluster rockets
wet frigate
Why woudl you ruin cluster rockets 😔
kind swan
What did it give you instead, of you remember?
gentle mason
Does Nectarine Boulder do anything?
Some of the buffs are literally useless but sometimes you will get like a 10% cast bonus.
stoic flame
a m b i g u i t y
kind swan
Some of the buffs are literally useless but sometimes you will get like a 10% ca...
And cast isn't useless?
stoic flame
no
rapid forum
cast builds are great
wet frigate
cast builds are pog
mint coral
Cast? More like nuke
kind swan
Huh, guess I should try one.
What should I use?
wet frigate
Me with buffed slicing shots: get nae naed
mint coral
Huh, guess I should try one.
What should I use?
Achilles, hera, poseidon, bei
stoic flame
Huh, guess I should try one.
What should I use?
hera with aphro cast
mint coral
*beo
stoic flame
and beo with dio cast 😩
mint coral
Achilles works great with any but specially non lodging casts
gentle mason
And cast isn't useless?
One of the possiblities is "Ambiguity Bonus: +2%"
mint coral
Achilles works great with any but specially non lodging casts
They need stygyan soul and extra casts to work tho
kind swan
hera with aphro cast
Well, I still need her cast for the prophecy, so that works out.
mint coral
Specially dio cast
azure surge
is the aspect of Guan Yu good to use cuz I just got it and don't know about the health situation but like decent damage
modern garnet
but the important part is stygian
wet frigate
guan yu is good
azure surge
ight
kind swan
I'm having so much trouble with it.
wet frigate
dont get hit again
stoic flame
you die
kind swan
Are all hiddens this awkward to use?
stoic flame
no
modern garnet
if you get hit you can heal it up
rapid forum
rama and beo are great to use
wet frigate
get that no hit 60 heat run champ 👍
azure surge
you die
nah man u already know I have that 2 death defiance and skellies lucky tooth maxed out
stoic flame
you still die only to die again
fiery bramble
If I give up do I lose my streak?
mint coral
Gilga is fun when you ignore the aspect and use the dash only 
azure surge
I'll still die
wet frigate
im still trying to 3 star all my keepsakes and it is pain to go through ones
kind swan
Well, I usually have trouble with the Champions with Guan (and the obvious, REDACTED)
azure surge
yea i guess that would be an issue and plus having the pact of punishment well depends on what ur using in it
mint coral
Guan is less painful at max lvl
rare gust
Watching Haelian put Aspect Chaos to S tier is confusing me the hell out
kind swan
What's the reduction at max?
mint coral
50%
kind swan
Thanks, (and sorry for all the dumb questions)
wet frigate
Thats ok they arent dumb
kind swan
So, what else should I look out for, for a cast build?
gentle mason
Some casts have duos that take them from ok to incredible, like Crystal Clarity for Crystal Beam or Hunting Blades for Slicing Shot
rapid forum
for hera or poseidon, find something that is lodging, Ie. Aphro, Artemis, Zeus, Poseidon.
for Achilles, if you want to play cast like demeter, ares, dio.
try to get poseidon and artemis duo, which is mirage cast
it'll boost up your DPS considerably
Chaos boons for cast damage and extra bloodstone is welcomed
gentle mason
That build was insane
Did you get Heart Rend or was Aphro Artemis enough by itself?
junior terrace
I ended up getting heart rend right before Theseus
I always lose 1 or 2 dd vs him but this time I lost none
kind swan
Yes finally got my first clear
Post in #h1-victory-boasting
junior terrace
Couldn’t get an actual screenshot lol so took one with my phone
rapid forum
that'll do
I take a pic of my switch cause I'm too lazy to transfer it to my phone
dang it Ninty
junior terrace
Oh looks like the Xbox capture actually worked
kind swan
Even better!
junior terrace
Yep I posted it
As for that damage boost y’all were talking about
Did u mean the family favorite?
gentle mason
Did u mean the family favorite?
For a build like you did, yes (For certain builds, P. Status would be better and they are the same line of the mirror)
junior terrace
I see
kind swan
Privileged Status is what I did for my bow clear; since I was using Chiron aspect, All I needed was Aphro Special and Ares attack and boom, PS on what I was focusing (since Weak and Doom).
junior terrace
Should I still be using the bow tho? Or do I try and clear with other weapons
junior terrace
Oh yea true
gentle mason
Should I still be using the bow tho? Or do I try and clear with other weapons
The game definitely provides incentives to clear with multiple weapons but it is really up to you.
wraith garnet
Is it worth it to make the rail a burst but nevee need to reload
gentle mason
Oh yea true
In addition to the boss clear items, there are also prophecies rewards tied to all weapons as well.
junior terrace
Yea I may as well tryout other weapons much more enjoyable I assume as well
kind swan
And one that rewards 10 blood for clearing with all weapons
gentle mason
Is it worth it to make the rail a burst but nevee need to reload
That hammer is fine.
junior terrace
And one that rewards 10 blood for clearing with all weapons
🙀
wraith garnet
I’ll just choose the more samage
kind swan
I had a good bit of fun with The Fists, myself
junior terrace
As for the second buff in the mirror
Is the higher chance for rare the way to go?
kind swan
Which buff?
chrome wharf
Dark Foresight is better
whole ridge
To add, you also get 10 Titan Blood from the Fated List for getting at least 1 clear with every weapon
gentle mason
Is the higher chance for rare the way to go?
I lean toward Dark Foresight because it means you see more Boons. (Especially because the next tier that you haven't unlocked on the mirror helps with Boon quality 🙂
chrome wharf
more boons that are common > less boons that are rare
chrome wharf
Since common to rare is usually just 1 pom diff
modern garnet
the real tradeoff with dark foresight is you get less stuff that helps your long term progression
but at this point in the game you won't need as much of that, maybe
gentle mason
the real tradeoff with dark foresight is you get less stuff that helps your long...
This is true.
chrome wharf
It's 30 for the last 2 ithink
wraith garnet
got damn
chrome wharf
Those 2 skills are pretty expensive anyway
chrome wharf
funky that Dark Foresight gives you less Darkness in runs
junior terrace
Is it worth upgrading an aspect for now if I can only do 1
lunar crane
athena easily the best
junior terrace
Where exactly do I unlock that one
gentle mason
Is it worth upgrading an aspect for now if I can only do 1
It depends on the aspect, some of them are good the moment you unlock them will others need to be fully unlocked to be really good. What are you thinking of upgrading?
junior terrace
Well since I’ve got 1 blood rn I was thinking of using it on a new weapon to hopefully clear then repeat
Until I’ve cleared with all
little dragon
if you only have 1 blood
zag bow and rail might be noticeable
you need more than that to unlock a new one though
raw herald
Hera is one of the best 1 blood aspects
And each level only really helps for bossing/armored enemies
junior terrace
Ah is that for the bow?
raw herald
Yes
gentle mason
Hera is one of the best 1 blood aspects
Hera costs 2 to unlock
raw herald
*correction: level 1
junior terrace
Mmm I just cleared with the zag now trying to use other weapons
raw herald
Not one blood
gentle mason
Mmm I just cleared with the zag now trying to use other weapons
My suggestions for options to try a new weapon would be either Nemesis (Sword) or Eris (Rail) both of which are solid improvements on the Zag versions that get better as you add more blood but are still good at level 1.
hearty sierra
Try to have at least one aspect of each weapon fully upgraded so you can farm darkness with Thirst if need be
junior terrace
Last I tried the gun I was not a fan
hearty sierra
The combo for nemesis is special + dashattack + dashattack
Build Artemis attack and pom it to high heaven
Then the rest of your build can be whatever and it would still work
raw herald
Artemis attack shouldn't be a pom target tbh, it scales with chaos and mark, not poms
If you want to pom something, make it Zeus' aid or static discharge, because if you have a crit build, you are likely going to be using Aphrodite, who also opens up smoldering air
hearty sierra
Fair point
Maybe the artemis boon that makes crits do more damage
Pom that instead
onyx leaf
Anyone ever run into a bug where you can't get one of the hidden aspects anymore?
hearty sierra
Anyone ever run into a bug where you can't get one of the hidden aspects anymore...
You'll have to elaborate
raw herald
Maybe the artemis boon that makes crits do more damage
😬 clean kill also isn't that great sorry
Of all the crit boons, mark is the best one to pom
hearty sierra
Aw but muh DAMAGE big numbers
junior terrace
So then
hearty sierra
What mac said
raw herald
If you think about it, epic clean kill is only 1/5 as good as heart rend
That's not good
hearty sierra
Fair, fair
onyx leaf
Well I looked it up after the fact but I was basically in the right position to get a hidden aspect (trying not to spoil it if that matters) and the game bugged out, I restarted it and tried everything, can't get back to it
gentle mason
Nemesis sword is very similar to zag bow
Yes, it is both are about Crit chance.
hearty sierra
Artemis attack, aphro special, heart rend, zeus call?
raw herald
Nemesis sword is very similar to zag bow
Yes for the most part
raw herald
Well I looked it up after the fact but I was basically in the right position to ...
Never heard of this myself
junior terrace
I think I’ve got a good idea of how I should build it then
hearty sierra
Yeah, I've no idea either
void vigil
Spoilers are allowed in this channel, could you elaborate? You might not be meeting the requirements
onyx leaf
Oh
void vigil
Which aspect are you trying to get? What are you trying to do to get it?
onyx leaf
Well I got the line from Chaos to get the shield aspect in the middle of a run, my game bugs out and I can't do anything in the middle of Asphodel I think so I restarted the game and I couldn't unlock the aspect
lunar crane
onyx leaf
And I have since tried going back to Chaos multiple times and nothing
junior terrace
Should I worry about heats for now?
hearty sierra
Should I worry about heats for now?
Not right now
Not unless you can consistently clear the game
junior terrace
Ah gotcha
void vigil
I see. So you basically gave up your run and they haven’t given you the phrase again since, and going up to the weapon does nothing?
If they still have new dialogue, it’s just up to rng
onyx leaf
Yeah I've also tried interacting with the shield a few times
I get why it wouldn't let me the first time but the fact that I can go back and not get the line again is what's confusing me
I restarted my game too
gentle mason
Ah gotcha
Also, doing runs without heat is great for getting darkness to power up your mirror.
hearty sierra
I get why it wouldn't let me the first time but the fact that I can go back and ...
The game has a priority list for which lines to give you, but at the end of the day it's up to RNG
void vigil
so it’s not a bug, keep talking to them and they’ll give it to you again eventually, hopefully soon!
hearty sierra
If you've reached Master Chaos again and they're not giving you the phrase, it's just RNG at work
hearty sierra
It's a quirk of non-linear storytelling
Oh yeah you have to actually clear a run (or die)
"giving up" is basically just loading from you last save file
gentle mason
Also, the game wants you to unlock the weapon, if you ignored the waking phrase and there is actually dialogue where the character will remind to use the waking phrase again if you forget to do it.
void vigil
Oh boy missable dialogue brb starting a new save to see it
hearty sierra
Lmao yeah now that daniel here mentioned it I suddenly wanna see all the dialogue
I remember it for chaos - they repeated it for me
But nothing else
Definitely interested in achilles' dialogue for when you forget to unlock guan yu
void vigil
jk I can’t abandon the darkness grind… I made it to 100,000 darkness the other day so I’m basically a third of the way there 
hearty sierra
Lmao the title grind is real
TD3 FO2 and just keep blasting through the game I suppose
onyx leaf
I think my next title is only like 2k darkness lol
hearty sierra
Maybe EM2 to make lernie easier
void vigil
Nah i take my time with some runs, I just want to reliably clear. FO2 hard
hearty sierra
Makes runs speeeeedy tho
void vigil
I’m on an almost 30 streak too
gentle mason
Oh boy missable dialogue <:dusa:522248771409543188> brb starting a new save to s...
I discovered this because I stopped playing after receiving Lucifer waking phrase from Zeus. I forgot to activate it when I started back the next day and Zeus actually reminded me to use the waking phrase when I was getting a boon from him.
void vigil
that’s cool! I assume not many people see it… or maybe they do? 
modern garnet
how can he tell you didn't use it, i wonder?
formal relic
Yoyo
junior terrace
What hammers should I be getting with nemesis sword
formal relic
What hammers should I be getting with nemesis sword
Dash strike one is good
Can't remember the name
junior terrace
Ngl I think I screwed this run lol
Grabbed Poseidon’s dash
And now I’m realizing It’s harder to hit them
😅
modern garnet
lmao... it's the most damaging dash but that's the downside
formal relic
I love zeuses dash it's so free
short glen
Divine dash tho
raw herald
Poseidon's dash is popular on nemesis among speedrunners
Helps clear Tartarus quicker before you get double edge
gentle mason
Speedrunners like Poseidon's dash in general because it does lots of damage, full stop.
modern garnet
do you try to purge it when you have a build that doesn't rely on it anymore?
i guess it always hits just as hard
raw herald
No you don't try to purge it
It does the most work in Tartarus and styx
Especially with breaking wave in styx
surreal adder
Anyone know if you play with mods can you still use cross save with the switch?
brisk trail
How do I deal with the final boss’ stun pots with melee weapons?
modern garnet
If you have a ranged hammer, or a nice ranged cast you can use that
If you don't have that, mostly just stay away
Final boss attacks can destroy pots, so they all get cleared out eventually
brisk trail
So worst case scenario I stick to the sides of the map and wait?
cedar swan
I'm not very good at Hades but I am trying to get 100% achievements. I have 4 left to get, 3 of those I'll just get through playing but I know one I'm going to struggle with is Skelly's 2nd trophy. The highest heat I've done so far is 8.
Any tips on a safe build to help me jump to 16?
I presume lots of Athena?
modern garnet
So worst case scenario I stick to the sides of the map and wait?
Basically! There's no rush... unless you have TD on
brisk trail
Alright thanks
modern garnet
Oh and spear is melee but almost definitely has enough range to take care of em
Spear range is huge especially when you dash strike
azure osprey
Oh and spear is melee but almost definitely has enough range to take care of em
This is why I use the spear
fallow fossil
Hi! Does anyone know if my switch save can be transferred to PS5?
azure osprey
Also fist special has enough range to hit the pots
azure osprey
Hi! Does anyone know if my switch save can be transferred to PS5?
You can’t
From what I know
fallow fossil
Has there been any announcements of it being in development?
fallow fossil
Ah I see thank you. So much
I was debating whether getting the ps5 version rn…
Not sure how different it would be from playing on the switch to console
azure osprey
You can atleast play the game again
On hard mode
You can already do that on switch but
Eh
Also ps5 hades has one of those cool music backgrounds in the menu so
That’s another plus
vapid narwhal
I'm not very good at Hades but I am trying to get 100% achievements. I have 4 le...
there is a guide pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies, it is for 32, but you can def remove some of the most troubling ones and get to 16
my recommendation for a very safe 16 run is TD2, EM3, FO1, BP1, CF1, take either DC1 or LC1 depending on weapon
if you just want to knock out the achievement, dont be afraid to turn on god mode
cedar swan
if you just want to knock out the achievement, dont be afraid to turn on god mod...
Oh, I have 😆 I'm too old for this type of game
But I do love it
twin thistle
How do I deal with the final boss’ stun pots with melee weapons?
you can usually also just dash past them if you have a dash boon whichll break them and you wont get hit if youre dashing out of the way
rapid forum
My friend picked curse slash on sword and just monke on everything.
He got god mode on
vapid narwhal
cursed slash got plenty of players their first clears
dusky wedge
Healing is always gonna be one of the strongest, if not the strongest mechanics in any roguelite
Especially near infinite healing like this
chrome wharf
oh hey Switch patch dropped...maybe I should start another fresh file and see how the Chinese localization is doing :3
dusky wedge
Was it bad before?
chrome wharf
when I got Cursed Slash I was too noob at the game to make good use of it lol
I won't say it's "bad" but I don't think the short voicelines were actually playtested. Felt like the localization got handed a text file without any context as to where the lines played
by the time I got it (Switch physical), gameplay-related things were pretty good. Like Boon names, mirror skills, heats, etc were really good.
Basically in Chinese, a lot of idioms / figures of speech are 4 characters long, so whoever(s) did those put in the effort to make all the skills 4 characters long, so not only did they read really... poetic? they also lined up well
azure osprey
Hades only wears capes lmao
chrome wharf
n o c a p e s !
rapid forum
Edna would like to have a word
kind swan
Hades only wears capes lmao
||He literally has a closet full of them||
high island
I won't say it's "bad" but I don't think the short voicelines were actually play...
If you have any feedback for the translations, you can post it in #hades-localization or report it with F10.
chrome wharf
oh yeah I've posted plenty over there
dusky wedge
I won't say it's "bad" but I don't think the short voicelines were actually play...
Yeah, this is where I think most localizations have the most difficulty in. The “lost in translation” problem
chrome wharf
right, especially since English and Chinese don't translate very well into each other (so much so that it's used as an AI benchmark iirc)
vapid narwhal
I won't say it's "bad" but I don't think the short voicelines were actually play...
that is exactly how localization are done today
chrome wharf
oh yeah I've posted plenty over there
this was actually why I joined this discord! heard something about bugs being reportable here, clicked on the link wondering "hmm wondering if they take localization feedback too" and sure it was 
azure osprey
The ares attack one
chrome wharf
-60% HP, every regular attack gives +2 HP
azure osprey
I have not used it in any of my clears I think
azure osprey
a sword hammer upgrade, reduce your life total, but hits heal you
OOH
What kind of hits
Taking damage
plucky latch
Yeah, it's pretty snazzy
azure osprey
With specials or attack
chrome wharf
that is exactly how localization are done today
yeah hence the need for localization QA, ie people to sit down and experience it in context. But this is indie so I cut them some slack
plucky latch
Regular Attacks
plucky latch
-60% HP, every regular attack gives +2 HP
bruh
chrome wharf
yeah it's like Guan Yu but less clunky healing
azure osprey
||He literally has a closet full of them||
I know
vapid narwhal
yeah hence the need for localization QA, ie people to sit down and experience it...
very few companies, especially western developers have in house localization QA
azure osprey
yeah it's like Guan Yu but less clunky healing
Guan yu is kinda ass tbh
vapid narwhal
usually a big publisher that have local branches, like Ubisoft, EA etc have some sort of capacity but it's limited
chrome wharf
it's glacially growing on me
vapid narwhal
most of the time QA falls onto the lead contractor
chrome wharf
tbh it's nice that more publishers are localizing to Chinese (and other not-EN/JP languages) in the first place
vapid narwhal
Chinese is the 2nd most used language on Steam
European/LATAM language localization has been common for a long time
chrome wharf
guess I should rephrase to the practice of having multiple languages without having to buy regional versions
but that might just have been a nintendo thing
vapid narwhal
It's more of a PlayStation thing. Switch games most of the times do have full language support in all regions. There are a few exceptions due to publishers want to limit certain regional sales so that sucks. Xbox lets you download games from any region you want so not a problem. Steam is also obviously not a problem (certain Japanese publishers cough)
but this is more #video-games
terse finch
cannot find the Charon shop symbol in the wiki does anybody have it, I need it am writing a notebook
terse finch
thanks I guess this works for now. its strange there aren't any transparent once out there. by my basic search.
vapid narwhal
you probably can extra it from game files
but weird it is not on the wiki for some reason
terse finch
I expect it to be there under Charon but no luck
vapid narwhal
it's not in the chamber rewards page either
terse finch
how would i extra the it from the game itself? Idk how to open jason or bik files
soft echo
Bro this game is great, I got Triple Beam and Unlimited Ammo on Lucifer, with Poseidon attack and made a super-duper soaker
dusky wedge
Yeah, it do be like that
lost ermine
Got my 100th clear just now 
late acorn
Just won my first run!!! I got two duo boons :))) I couldn’t have done it without skelly tho
azure osprey
i died to hades
Invest in death defiances
I don’t know what to tell you
You can get up to 4 revives
Well
3 from the mirror
1 from skelly
More then enough to destroy hades
high island
Spiked Collar is more HP than Lucky Tooth if you get there with 3 DDs.
But the Evergreen Acorn is the best tank keepsake for the Hades fight.
azure osprey
Evergreen can disappear quickly
eternal marlin
Better than quick death to the same stuff.
brisk trail
Victory screens are saved somewhere right?
vapid narwhal
administration chamber
rapid forum
yes
vapid narwhal
go there and check all your run records
meager ridge
You can get up to 4 revives
i have 4 revives
even when i had 4 revives and full health, i still died to him
but tbf it was my first fight
meager ridge
it's really tough
the best i got to was when i got him to quarter health on phase 2
i was so damn angry when i died then
i just got the death dealer achievement
yay
😐
brisk trail
I suck at this type of games and the more you play the better you get so don't worry
terse finch
its just on my end or after some time or after some event happen the game audio effect get kinda distorted
undone stag
was there an update today?
terse finch
nani?
undone stag
i just updated 98MB of hades
terse finch
is there patch note?
undone stag
on gamepass
vapid narwhal
game pass too since it had some bugs relating to booting up and achievements
meager ridge
OH FOR CHRIST'S SAKE
I GOT HADES' HEALTH DOWN SO LOW
AND THEN I DIE
HE WAS ON AT LEAST AN EIGTH OF HIS ORIGINAL HEALTH
GOD DAMN IT
I HATE THIS ABORTION OF A GAME
lost ermine
So you didn't uninstall it after all?
meager ridge
no
because i might as well justify spending £25 on it
I WAS SO CLOSE
I HAD GOOD BOONS
I HAD GOOD DAEDALON HAMMERS
AND THEN IT ENDS
JUST LIKE THAT
WHY THE HELL DO PEOPLE PRAISE THIS GAME
midnight dock
Why I cant make shareplay of Hades?
midnight dock
because i might as well justify spending £25 on it
-i spent 125 reais ( brazilian money)'-'
terse finch
is the chamber with the Skull and sparkling symbol is the mini boss?
chrome wharf
skull with 2 up arrows whoops, 1
void vigil
terse finch
never notice the arrows but I see sparkling symblos some times whats that mean
meager ridge
i genuinely hate this game
rapid forum
That means there will be elite enemies
void vigil
maybe you should invest your time in games you like playing, i mean that genuinely. if it makes you this angry its not worth playing even if you "wasted" money on it
sometimes that happens
though it sounds like youve already played it for a while
meager ridge
i have 37 escape attempts
my current escape attempts are usually 20-25 minutes long before i get decimated
if i had ONE more death defiance, i could have killed hades
terse finch
I have 150 attempt and 53h not finish this game once why are you busting out
dusky wedge
i have 37 escape attempts
Sounds normal to me. Average players mostly beat the game somewhere around 50+ attempts, some even more
terse finch
there is god mode if you want to know the story.
meager ridge
Sounds normal to me. Average players mostly beat the game somewhere around 50+ a...
this is hell
meager ridge
there is god mode if you want to know the story.
i don't even care about the story anymore
each conversation that comes up, i just mash a
dusky wedge
It’s in line with most roguelites, this is how the difficulty is in most roguelites
terse finch
then just look up on a easy build
brisk trail
are you using god mode?
meager ridge
are you using god mode?
no
this entire game is just 50% pray to rngesus, 40% get decimated, 10% listen to dialogue nobody gives one about
weary jackal
I think quite a few people do care about the dialogue
Myself, for one
Zeus: “Let us both put our backs into it!”
Gives me three common boons
Yeah ok thanks Zeus
high island
Good RNG can help you if you're struggling, but RNG is not gonna be the reason you lose.
dusky wedge
Yeah, I wouldn’t be too surprised with those odds, seems in line with how roguelites supposed to be
high island
Focus on learning how different enemy types telegraph their attacks, and use your empty dash i-frames to avoid them.
dusky wedge
As you get farther into the game, you will get items to basically heightens your good RNG chances by a lot though
You just have to play more, and also use the relationship mechanics, of course
terse finch
"**Rarity scaled **to the level of the underword level "
what heck does this mean. is the chamber number the biomas am on what exactly is the underworld level
lost ermine
Fought Charon, he brought me down to 60 with no DDs, dropped me straight into witches circle. Just about crapped myself
tulip ridge
Fought hades and got 5 aspects, just gotta wait for achilles to tell me about the spear
lost ermine
I brought it back and found pat in elysium so we are LIVING
meager ridge
just turn it on dude
oh, fine
i'll turn it on
just to see if it's alright
i feel like i'm cheating with this on
but at the same time if i die to hades one more time i'll probably light my copy of hades on fire
wait
fiery bramble
Finally.
dusky wedge
God Mode is fine, most people did played with it at some point, me included
meager ridge
true
besides, i've died to hades countless times
if this game wants to cheese me, i'll cheese the game
weary jackal
I haven’t used god mode tbh
unkempt vale
Good RNG can help you if you're struggling, but RNG is not gonna be the reason y...
True, after "beating" Daddy H for the first time I slapped everything after that with almost all weapons with heat turned on on most runs.
Just figuring out what's what. And from what I've read about what you said last few days. RogueLite's arn't your thing.
Same as how Darkest Dungeon isn't for me. Great game. But I get attached to my toons.
meager ridge
FINALLY
I KILLED HADES
I DON'T CARE THAT I USED GOD MODE
THE GAME CHEESES ME, I CHEESE THE GAME BACK
brisk trail
lol
cold harbor
weary jackal
Do it again 
lost ermine
Now do it with Heat
vapid narwhal
do it many more times
meager ridge
you've got to be kidding me
i fight through hell itself
just to die in front of persephone???
carmine talon
im in immense mental anguish
weary jackal
just to die in front of persephone???
Correct
carmine talon
ive beaten hades once in 17 runs
fiery bramble
im in immense mental anguish
Correct
weary jackal
I beat him on my 12th
raw herald
46th eek
wise oasis
23
carmine talon
i hear everybody say the shield is the easiest weapon but i just cant seem to get it to work for me 
raw herald
It's subjective
I found shield easy but bow hard, now I like all weapons apart from sword
carmine talon
ive only managed to do it with the bow of chiron and even then my last run i didn't get the hammer that makes your special fire more arrows so i got owned by hades
lost ermine
14
carmine talon
flurry shot plus demeters icey attack seems pretty good but it did not feel like i was doin a lot of damage
terse finch
how does scale the boon rarity?
weary jackal
Wonder if I can get to 16 heat today
wise oasis
flurry shot plus demeters icey attack seems pretty good but it did not feel like...
Flurry shot isn't bad, but if you can power shot consistently it's not much of an increase
raw herald
Flurry shot is good in Tartarus, but needs twin or triple shot to really shine lategame
carmine talon
that makes sense
wise oasis
My first bow clear was twin + flurry, felt good
carmine talon
i didnt get either twin or triple shot in my next hammer 🥲
my first and only clear was when i had chiron bow with the more arrows in your special hammer and athena dash and attack
weary jackal
Relentless volley is really good
meager ridge
what's even the point of trying to get back up there?
if you just disintegrate
it's pointless
rapid forum
keep playing and find out
outer fulcrum
Lol someone didn’t bother reading dialogue but I think he probably hasn’t cleared
weary jackal
Lol someone didn’t bother reading dialogue but I think he probably hasn’t cleare...
He did say he keeps skipping the dialogue
outer fulcrum
🤷♀️
meager ridge
He did say he keeps skipping the dialogue
i was only skipping the dialogue before i killed hades
because i was just tired of it
fiery bramble
Hades tells you the point of going back up right after you beat him the first time
unkempt vale
5th kill in and I was like, no way, that's the thing? this is is what's going on? Why? Dead... Constant clifhangers keep me going xD
And shield is kinda cheese when u can ignore almost all attacks. I mean, I just shielded up in the middle and I had that shooting shield ability. Really fun xD
weary jackal
I find it funny how people are shocked at what happens after their first escape, as if the game hadn’t been telling them over and over “There is no escape”
normal sonnet
Funny, but understandable
azure osprey
I find it funny how people are shocked at what happens after their first escape,...
I wasn’t really shocked
stable glen
got only 1 duo across both runs and got deadlines in hades both times
azure osprey
I was wondering how you were going to replay the game anyways
Because it’s a rougelike
weary jackal
First Daedalus gives me both Concentrated and Relentless on one hammer
Then Ares gives me two duo boons
Is this run just out here to spite me
stable glen
Hades said, he was born of darkness and must stay in darkness, makes sense
Gonna play hangover chiron screw chaos sheild
azure surge
if I use titan blood to level up the aspect of guan yu, does it decrease the amount of health I lose before going to battle
mint coral
yup
azure surge
ight
mint coral
max lvl is -50% hp reduction
azure surge
dang thats still really low
weary jackal
Better than -70% atleast
azure surge
yea
weary jackal
Just beat 14 heat, less go
mint coral
nice
fiery bramble
Just beat 14 heat, less go
Which weapon?
weary jackal
Aspect of Chiron Coronacht
Now then
Do I buy The Unseen Ones
Or In The Blood
Ok so the Unseen Ones is actually incredible
weary jackal
How
signal aspen
high confidence + chaos curse
vapid narwhal
and either cursed slash or level 1 GY
mint coral
nice
chrome wharf
50% SD heal, breaking the game
weary jackal
Sea Storm and Tempest Flourish Chiron
We winning
mint coral
hangover eris doing 256 damage with all 8 stacks
this is fun
artemis didnt show up or i would have aimed for splitting headache 
weary jackal
Sea Storm and Tempest Flourish Chiron
We winning
Concentrated and Relentless volleys too
This is pog
strange kettle
Hello, I do not get the option of "Eldest Sigil Restoration" I already have the relationship 6/6 with Nicte and Chaos
signal aspen
did you interact with the thing in the admin room?
strange kettle
did you interact with the thing in the admin room?
Not figure
cunning warren
Does anyone knows if taking prerequisite boon increase chances of gating duo boon or not?
gentle mason
Does anyone knows if taking prerequisite boon increase chances of gating duo boo...
You literally can't get a duo boon unless you have the prereqs, so I'm confused by this question
vapid narwhal
they probably meant getting more
cunning warren
they probably meant getting more
Yep. This
vapid narwhal
but the answer is no, as soon as you fulfill the requirement for a duo, it has a flat chance of appearing when taking a boon from either gods
gentle mason
The only ways to increase the duo boon odds that I'm aware of are: Gods' Legacy on the Mirror, Yarn from Charon's shop, and the boon rarity item from Eurydice
vapid narwhal
refreshing nectar, god's legacy and yarn of ariadne are the only ways to increase the chance
cunning warren
Good to know. I've been doing it wrong this whole time lol. Thank youu
strange kettle
There seems to be no solution to this "Eldest Sigil Restoration". Nowhere does it tell you what to do.
vapid narwhal
no, it's dialogue RNG
mint coral
filling your core slots will still increase your chance to some extent
because the game wants you to fill them
vapid narwhal
you have to wait till Nyx gives you the dialogue
mint coral
(ofc be wary of not opening other duos)
dusky wedge
Better yet, take all the duos!
gentle mason
In theory, you can also mess with odds a bit by carefully selecting your own boons so that fewer other boons are possible, i.e.: If you want a specific Duo don't select boons that make other Duos available or other boons for that god. (like Zeus has two Call related boons that aren't in the pool unless you have a call boon)
strange kettle
you have to wait till Nyx gives you the dialogue
And it is normal that I get a padlock in a heart, even if it says "Entry Complete", the only one that I have everything is only Athena
terse finch
where should i spend my diamonds immidalty? for better farming
vapid narwhal
if something has not happened yet, you did not talk to someone enough
everything in the 1st column of the house contractor that costs them
gentle mason
And it is normal that I get a padlock in a heart, even if it says "Entry Complet...
The Padlock basically means talk to this person more and potentially do a favor for them (triggered by dialogue) before you can continue to progress your relationship.
vapid narwhal
everything in that column is tied to gameplay until a certain late game point
so prioritize that
strange kettle
The Padlock basically means talk to this person more and potentially do a favor ...
If they never go out again, to talk and not even nectar I can give them.
near dune
Does deepening your relationship just mean dying in a game and then go talk to them
Over and over until I can nectar them
short glen
Basically
vapid narwhal
you should be able to nectar most NPCs within a few times of meeting them
quartz hearth
Still picturing "nectar" as a verb as dumping the bottle over their head, and still cracking up about it 🤣
mint coral
zag ability to friend everyone by throwing nectar is so fun
short glen
Zag out here playing Stardew valley no crop challenge
near dune
If you use the keepsake for Artemis, can she talk about your bow
Or do I have to encounter her normally
mint coral
she can
near dune
So my friend can use the keepsake and die over and over until he gets her to talk
quartz hearth
I still think it's fun to imagine Zag unlocking a farming mechanic in Persephone's garden
onyx leaf
Is there some sort of prerequisite for the "slippery" Chaos curse and the "assault" Chaos boon? They're the only 2 that I haven't gotten from them
quartz hearth
Cultivate horrifying hell-plants, bring your crops to the Head Chef for bonuses
short glen
Is there some sort of prerequisite for the "slippery" Chaos curse and the "assau...
*them
quartz hearth
Remember to water your skull turnips and doomberries between runs, Zag!
mint coral
assault was the damage against unharmed enemies?
onyx leaf
Idk I've never seen it before lol
mint coral
have you used fiery presence? (green side of shadow presence)
mint coral
pretty sure you can check chaos codex to see their boons
mint coral
sometimes elysium is painful but the sight of archers getting hit directly by a trap and just dying is always fun
high island
I found shield easy but bow hard, now I like all weapons apart from sword
You'll come to like Stygius, m sure.
short glen
Oh just wait until you unlock the face tank build
strange kettle
Anyway I do not like to expand to the gods, nor talk out
plucky latch
wut
raw herald
Oh just wait until you unlock the face tank build
I have unlocked all of the aspects, I was doing a speedrun and was playing aggressively
Well, as fast as you can go with drunken strike
onyx leaf
Face tank build?
raw herald
Arthur with aphro attack
onyx leaf
Ah
brisk trail
After what point do certain resources become useless?
raw herald
If you want to unlock everything, then not for a long time
But to just unlock the mirror/aspects and max them out, not too long
modern garnet
There's 2 lategame sinks for keys but they're both cosmetic
weary jackal
16 heat let’s go
onyx leaf
Does your title affect anything or is it just for show
raw herald
Does your title affect anything or is it just for show
Just for show
gentle mason
As an example, you need a shade under 40,000 darkness to fully upgrade both side of the mirror as well as complete a quest. But to do all the title ranks takes over 300,000 darkness by itself.
gentle mason
Does your title affect anything or is it just for show
There is also one little dialogue exchange that happens if you get the final rank. (you can find it on youtube)
weary jackal
And I unlocked Guan Yu at the same time too
Epic
high island
I died on the last run I did with it
Well, that's how it becomes fun
onyx leaf
Is there a list of all the ranks?
onyx leaf
ty
manic bobcat
Zag: Plunder the Underworld
The Resouce Director/Hades: Give it back
They should really go after Charon for embezzling though. Dude has a sick stash
strange kettle
https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Resource_Director
What is it for?
manic bobcat
late late game comestics
so nothing except looking nice (it changes your health bar)
onyx leaf
How rare is the Charon fight?
raw herald
22% chance of seeing the sack in a midshop
onyx leaf
Oh that's not that bad then
Do you know if the one prophecy that says to beat him twice means in the same run or not?
Or if that's even possible
modern garnet
Not in the same run
fiery bramble
Can it be 1001 runs apart though?
onyx leaf
Lol
Well I killed him the last time I fought him but I didn't have the prophecy at the time so Idk if it'll count or not
high island
3141 runs apart also doesn't work.
raw herald
2718 runs apart don't either
fiery bramble
This game is way too limiting in this regard
carmine talon
how long is an average, complete run
carmine talon
if you were talkin about yourself how long would you say your runs are on average
raw herald
7-9 mins, but this is pointless because I mostly do speedruns at this point
There's no point in using my averages as an average example
carmine talon
I was not aware of that
raw herald
But for usual runs that aren't speedruns, generally 25-30 mins IGT is what I see on here mostly
carmine talon
how long have u been speedrunning hades?
raw herald
Main thing is, play the game at your own pace 👍
carmine talon
of course
short glen
My best run is within the 18 minute zone
raw herald
how long have u been speedrunning hades?
About 4-5 months on and off, I've never grinded that hard though
onyx leaf
My best is a little over 20 minutes lol but I haven't really been trying to speedrun
carmine talon
dang that is quick
ive got a total of 17 or 18 attempts and it feels like mine are closer to 40 mins haha
onyx leaf
It gets faster once you start unlocking more things especially in the mirror
And upgrading your aspects and stuff
carmine talon
i can get through tartarus pretty quick at this point but elysium kinda hits different
raw herald
Remember that the in game timer pauses during loading screens and boon selection menu
short glen
If it helps, my runs are usually closer to 30 minutes than 18
carmine talon
It gets faster once you start unlocking more things especially in the mirror
for sure
my only successful run was 44 minutes D:
dusky wedge
You’ll definitely get faster sooner or later
18 total runs is still very early in playtime hours
carmine talon
It gets faster once you start unlocking more things especially in the mirror
yeah that makes sense, i still only have 2 aspects unlocked at their base level and still have to upgrade the mirror two more times
dusky wedge
You definitely didn’t unlock everything that speed up the runs yet
cold marlin
What’s a really good boon build for escaping easily cause last time I did ares Aphrodite Artemis and got all the duo boons and it was kinda busted but it ain’t reliable to get that frequently
carmine talon
artemis call also carried me a little
dusky wedge
Anything can work tbh
carmine talon
artemis greater call does insane damage
onyx leaf
What’s a really good boon build for escaping easily cause last time I did ares A...
Athena dash
dusky wedge
Weapon choice matters more, in a sense that you go with the weapon that suits your playstyle
cold marlin
Any interesting builds?
carmine talon
the bow definitely is my favourite but ive been going with whatever weapon has dark thirst lately
onyx leaf
For Athena dash or just in general?
dusky wedge
Merciful End fists I guess
cold marlin
In general
carmine talon
is it a good idea to unlock a bunch of different aspects first or focus on upgrading one aspect?
dusky wedge
That’s my first win
carmine talon
mine was bow of chiron
dusky wedge
Ares on attack, Athena on dash, ME procs every dash strikes = win
carmine talon
I still haven't even found a duo boon
raw herald
Unlocking the mirror helps with that as well, as well as using God keepsakes
dusky wedge
Focus on getting the god’s keepsakes first, to have an easier time getting them duos
carmine talon
what's a good duo boon to look out for with athena dash? think im gonna go with nemesis sword for my next run
or just regular ol sword
raw herald
Merciful end, the one a few messages up
carmine talon
alright thanks
dusky wedge
Ares on attack, Athena on dash, ME procs every dash strikes = win
This one, Merciful End core setup
Note that you need Athena on special as well to trigger ME duo requirements
lost ermine
Once you have ME you can swap the special for something else though if you want to
carmine talon
if i used a god keepsake to get an athena boon does that not guarantee that ill have a chance of getting more athena boons later
modern garnet
It's not guaranteed perse but she does get added to your pool
raw herald
Yes, nothing is guaranteed but she is in your god pool so it is likely you'll see her again
carmine talon
that's what i meant yeah
i didn't see her for the rest of tartarus and asphodel haha
no duo for me :(
dusky wedge
Probably just RNG
Taking a god keepsake early on guarantees the god will show up in the next biome, until you take it. After you take it though, the god will be added to your boon pool and therefore will have a chance to show up again at any point in your run after that
modern garnet
Have you been avoiding all other boons?
The pool only activates when you have 4 or more gods in it
dusky wedge
Yes ^
carmine talon
i got an athena boon in elysium but none of the ones that'll let me actually activate the duo HAHAHAHA
carmine talon
Have you been avoiding all other boons?
nope
glossy dawn
Finally FINALLY beat papa hades for the first time
Well, guess it’s time for the pact of punishment
glossy dawn
Finally FINALLY beat papa hades for the first time
Rail gun and Artemis my beloveds
Well my heart is pounding my hands are shaking and I’m crying because of Persephone
Seems legit
brisk trail
well the game just crashed
didn't really matter though, was having a really bad achilles run
glossy dawn
Seems legit
I need to breathe now
gentle mason
Well, guess it’s time for the pact of punishment
not necessarily, you could also try clearing it with different weapons before turning up the pact.
carmine talon
I have curse of agony and divine flourish, that's the prerequisite for merciful end on the wiki so why didn't it get offered
I'm losing it
signal aspen
because bad rng
carmine talon
even if you're offered both runes separately you're not guaranteed to get the duo?
mint coral
Having the requisite is a chance to get it not guaranteed
carmine talon
can i still get it later down the road
wise oasis
However it will not be offered in a trial
So if you see Athena ares trial that's bait
mint coral
It can still be worth, less boons to appear on a lonely ares/athena after
weary jackal
The damage of Rama can get ludicrous omg
chrome wharf
Do god trials have more enemies than usual
signal aspen
i dont think so
carmine talon
another hades boon, another not getting merciful end
signal aspen
hades boon
carmine talon
So if you see Athena ares trial that's bait
thanks for the heads up
chrome wharf
DAD BOONZ
gentle mason
It can still be worth, less boons to appear on a lonely ares/athena after
Also, something like Impending Doom will increase the power of Merciful End if you get it.
carmine talon
Ares, i meant ares
weary jackal
I feel like if hades did give you boons all of them would be named after insults
chrome wharf
Summon him for 10 seconds while he grumbles and kills things for you
weary jackal
Summon him for 10 seconds while he grumbles and kills things for you
That would be more like a companion
chrome wharf
tru
wise oasis
what would his call do
Give you laser attack
chrome wharf
What if you have Lucifer already
wise oasis
Moar laser
mint coral
Lucifer hammer that gives you dad 8 laser attack when
wise oasis
you dont need that
I do need it
wise oasis
Cuz spin with 3 laser is less laser than spin with 8 laser
manic bobcat
3 < 8 big if true
carmine talon
Holy mother of gods athena is offering a duo but it's the wrong one
chrome wharf
I feel like if hades did give you boons all of them would be named after insults
Slippery Strike
Floundering Flourish
Dead Dash
carmine talon
i wanna scream
mint coral
Holy mother of gods athena is offering a duo but it's the wrong one
Thats why you avoid filling other requisites
carmine talon
i didn't know i had other requisites :')
mint coral
Codex is your friend
carmine talon
How rare are duo boons? am i just unlucky
this is like the 6th ares/athena boon im opening and yet again, olympian society has failed me
mint coral
God legacy, yarn from charon well and eurydice refreshing nectar boost your chances of duos
gentle mason
also God's Legacy
and mirror rerolls
terse finch
i didn't want to spend my frist 16.000 farmed darkenss I maxed what was suggested to get better Epic end Rare boons and mida for gold. But my am question the fact that I had to max Rare too. i don't know how does the rarity system works
gentle mason
i didn't want to spend my frist 16.000 farmed darkenss I maxed what was suggeste...
It is commonly recommend to max dark foresight instead of Olympians favor to increase the number of boons that you see.
gentle mason
You can respec you mirror by spending one key once, you have unlocked the entire mirror
terse finch
this was suggested for farming darkness
mint coral
There is an arrow next to each skill of the mirror, you can flip to a different skill
terse finch
how do i remove the point i used?
mint coral
Dark foresight boost your chances to see poms, hearts, boon, hammers and obols and decrease chance of the other items
mint coral
Ye
gentle mason
Farming Darkness: you want Chaos boons that increases darkness gain & the Posideon boon that increases darkness, plus dark thirst because the primary way to get darkness is to multiply the darkness that bosses drop.
void vigil
Dark foresight is also bad for farming darkness and keys and such
So keep that in mind
weary jackal
Dark Thirst is the purple glow a weapon has in the armoury
terse finch
ah no is the 20% nevermind i tho it was another boon
so it bad to max out Olympus favor i should insted max out Dark foresight.
i don't gat what does happen if have maxed rare and epic to the game? is common not going to show up or both are going to overlap i don't get this cake shape system
am going on the wiki discord to ask this here i cannot see images
gentle mason
Ocean's Bounty is the Poseidon boon that increases darkness gains. Eclipse is the Chaos boon that increase darkness gain. These two boons will get you the largest increase in darkness gain, when you are farming for darkness after you have cleared a run.
terse finch
now that i have re rolls unlocked to increase the ammout of re-rolls i have i need to collect keys? how many time I have the possibilty to have the same boon from a god or chaos?
carmine talon
I finally got merciful end and then died to hades because i lost all my death defiances to a random styx chamber filled with rats and snakestones 😭
by all i mean the two I had left
white anvil
xD i was just wondering right now, what height does zagreus have?
white anvil
I finally got merciful end and then died to hades because i lost all my death de...
happened to many of us
gentle mason
I finally got merciful end and then died to hades because i lost all my death de...
It happens, I recommend trying the broken spearpoint keepsake for Styx specifically because those tunnels can be brutal.
carmine talon
i haven't really been fiddling with keepsakes too much, ive been using athena's to get the dash and then i swap to skelly
soft echo
Do you have all the keepsakes?
carmine talon
nah i have like half of them
soft echo
Ah
gentle mason
i haven't really been fiddling with keepsakes too much, ive been using athena's ...
Skelly is a good choice, too. Just providing a suggestion that you might find helpful. I feel like Styx tunnels were harder for me that the final boss fight as a new player.
terse finch
I didn't beat the final boss yet so i don't have the last God unlocked but what is the other keepsake that i miss other than the 2 post game?
twin thistle
well we'd have to know the ones you have
carmine talon
I definitely struggle with hades more because im really impatient haha
twin thistle
for hades himself probably best to use acorn
mint coral
I didn't beat the final boss yet so i don't have the last God unlocked but what ...
Last god unlocks when you reach him, not beating
soft echo
Well, my recommendation if you wanna build something good, then you use a god keepsake, then after Tartar Sauce, switch to the other god in the build or switch to Cthonic Coin Purse, and then just Acorn or Spearpoint for Elysium and Styx
I made a few type-o's
terse finch
@mint coral didn't even get that far i died by poison.
mint coral
Fair
terse finch
ah wait no i just miss Frostbitten Horn, i just unlocked Distant Memory.
I didn't want to spend the Diamonds yet kinda forgot that
gentle mason
ah wait no i just miss Frostbitten Horn, i just unlocked Distant Memory.
Frostbitten Horn is from the god that only unlocks after you first fight with the final boss.
stiff parcel
What’s the dodge chance mean from Hermès keepsake?
mint coral
Chance to avoid damage
stiff parcel
Oh that’s nice
signal aspen
dodge chance is like chance to dodge
gentle mason
What’s the dodge chance mean from Hermès keepsake?
Basically, the game rolls a die and says the enemies missed x% of the time.
stiff parcel
Ok so how do I get more besides the trinket?
signal aspen
boons
terse finch
Sigil of the Dead, wiki
says Your Call becomes Hades' Aid, which briefly makes you Invisible; your God Gauge starts 10/20/30% full.
what the meaning of making you invisible and not invicible?
mint coral
Ok so how do I get more besides the trinket?
Zag fists
Hermes boons
gentle mason
I might upgrade my fists then
fully upgraded you have 15% dodge chance with them.
soft echo
Sigil of the Dead, wiki
says Your Call becomes Hades' Aid, which briefly makes ...
There's 2 things that keepsake can do: invisible and unseen.
Invisible just makes your next attack stronger, and unseen makes you invisible for like 4 seconds or something and makes you do a lot of damage
Someone correct me if I'm wrong
gentle mason
Someone correct me if I'm wrong
That keepsake got nerfed at some point, so I'm not sure of its current power level.
soft echo
It used to have 4 bars of God Gauge so i think it used to have 3 invisible or one all 4 unseen
wise oasis
That keepsake got nerfed at some point, so I'm not sure of its current power lev...
It's still very strong, still gives a 100% bonus after invis/while unseen
Just need 50% for minor call instead of 25 like the others
thorn marsh
That keepsake got nerfed at some point, so I'm not sure of its current power lev...
that nerf was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back when
raw herald
It's still really good
wise oasis
@keen raven gonna drag you here cuz spoiler on mobile is effort
There's some really easy heats you can do for low effort
Tight deadline 1 gives you 36 minutes, it's very generous
fiery bramble
Convenience fee was the first heat I did, super easy
That one where each enemy has a 1 hit barrier is also super easy
mint coral
Damage control on fast weapons is easy too
wise oasis
Extreme measures 1 is also not that bad, although a bit rougher for some
keen raven
Tight deadline 1 gives you 36 minutes, it's very generous
I've never finished under 40 minutes 
wise oasis
You can always keep heat off too, have you gotten all the resources from all the weapons?
keen raven
Yeah I made the mistake of listening to skelly
wise oasis
Or like they said, damage control on rail/Chiron/rama/a bunch of others is very easy
Ah
And ye my gf was mad about that too lmao
I'd go for damage control on Chiron to start
It doesnt do much
keen raven
Oh
wise oasis
Actually what weapons do you like
keen raven
I like the weapons in which I don't have to button smash
wise oasis
Which ones your favorite?
keen raven
Stygian blade I guess
wise oasis
You can go for calisthenics program with nemesis maybe, it's not too bad with the crits
keen raven
I've to note this down
signal aspen
And also js1