And the usual Death defiances and greater reflex, of course
#h1-discussion
rapid ridge
That's an option? 😮
thorn marsh
i think cthonic vitality is better imo
brisk trail
tbh mirror actually varies depending on what your building and what heat you take on
thorn marsh
well
lone tree
I haven't even beaten Hades yet so you're a legend (for me)
brisk trail
but fated persuasion is always better than authority
hearty sierra
i think cthonic vitality is better imo
If you consistently clear Hades, sure
thorn marsh
i can consistently clear hades
rapid ridge
No heat here yet, starting over on the PS4 version for the platinum
thorn marsh
plus i use it to keep up HC
hearty sierra
I haven't even beaten Hades yet so you're a legend (for me)
And I look up to the folks at 64 heat
thorn marsh
And I look up to the folks at 64 heat
that 1 singular person 
hearty sierra
i can consistently clear hades
I can't, so I pick up darkness from the earlier bosses
brisk trail
the latest ykc was 61 I thought
hearty sierra
Still, 50 heat is already hard enough as-is
brisk trail
it is yes
hearty sierra
Hard to imagine beating 64 without modding
brisk trail
family favourite is almost always better than priv status, boiling blood is also far better than the counterpart imo
thorn marsh
family favourite is almost always better than priv status, boiling blood is also...
I AGREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
brisk trail
greater reflex over ruthless unless you go for gilga or some dodge build
hearty sierra
Boiling is 10/10, I always forget to apply it
thorn marsh
unless ur good at the game i feel like one dash is crippling unless u dont have any muscle memory of 2 dashes
but if ur good at the game
u got that two dash muscle memory
lone tree
(off topic) Have you seen the effort that supergiant put into the scenes at the beginning of each realm
arctic oasis
Is privileged status not good?
hearty sierra
(off topic) Have you seen the effort that supergiant put into the scenes at the ...
You'll have to be more specific
hearty sierra
Is privileged status not good?
There's better
thorn marsh
its basically a useless mirror out of tart
like
until u get a build
which couldnt be until mid aspho or hell even elysium
its useless
brisk trail
you need a specific build for priv status and family fav works across all builds
thorn marsh
while Family favorites is very easy to pick if u just grab a god
arctic oasis
Oh I see
thorn marsh
and u are almost guaranteed to get 4 gods + hermes
not sure if chaos counts
its basically rng vs no rng imo
arctic oasis
I guess I’ve been doing a lot of builds that end up with multiple statuses
hearty sierra
But if you can guarantee a build then priv boosts damage by a bunch
arctic oasis
Oh I wanted to ask
thorn marsh
But if you can guarantee a build then priv boosts damage by a bunch
u cant guarantee a build though
arctic oasis
Is chaos worth rerolling
hearty sierra
Is chaos worth rerolling
Depends on b uild
thorn marsh
that juicy cast dmg and extra cast stone help a ton
hearty sierra
I'd say yes
lone tree
You'll have to be more specific
Umm... at the beginning of each realm, there is a small corner that shows u how the realm looks like. (I would have attached a pic but for some reason I can't)
hearty sierra
Extra cast is sexy
arctic oasis
I had a good run before with Poseidon sword, exit wounds, and an extra cast from chaos
It was great
Oh and lightning rod
hearty sierra
Umm... at the beginning of each realm, there is a small corner that shows u how ...
Yeah images not allowed
thorn marsh
brisk trail
yeah games rly pretty
thorn marsh
not my best hera run in terms of speed but my best in terms of how many casts i had LOL
hearty sierra
Oh and lightning rod
Talk about anti synergy though
arctic oasis
Haha not great but it was a bit of a weird run
Where I didn’t get things I really wanted and just had to grab random stuff and make it work
hearty sierra
At least you don't also have greater recall
thorn marsh
my chaos was great that run
arctic oasis
Well I ended up building around not having exit wounds
I tried to get it early but never got it
It ended up being one of the last boons I got
hearty sierra
Well I ended up building around not having exit wounds
Always sad to hear when you play Poseidon
brisk trail
its not the most important thing anyway
arctic oasis
Haha yeah
hearty sierra
its not the most important thing anyway
Ups DPS by a tonn tho
brisk trail
but yeah chaos is potentially op
arctic oasis
It helped me delete hades faster
arctic oasis
I might continue playing with the Poseidon sword though
thorn marsh
and i actually have a reason
arctic oasis
But it really needs those specific things to make it work
thorn marsh
for top tier optimal DPS eris needs those clockets
arctic oasis
I think I ended up with something bizarre like Zeus attack and Demeter special
thorn marsh
literally all achilles needs is good play tidal dash jolted or arty attack and hermes and FLURRY
and the ability to zoom across rooms is poggers
hearty sierra
"easier to achieve combo" is not BETTER 
hearty sierra
and the ability to zoom across rooms is poggers
I agree :D
hearty sierra
Nyoom nyoom torpedo zag is nice
thorn marsh
flurry jab is utmost poggies
hearty sierra
Fine, since we're posting heretical opinions
arctic oasis
Spear is probably the one I’m worst at
brisk trail
its better as long as it has the wr I guess 
arctic oasis
How do you make it good
outer fulcrum
If I select titan blood upgrade for a weapon is there way too disable it? Or are the upgrades all actually good I think I read one or two I wouldn’t want. . Just wondering.
hearty sierra
Gods, in descending order of general usefulness: Hermes>Chaos>Athena>Poseidon>Everyone else
thorn marsh
flurry jab is how u make spear good
hearty sierra
If I select titan blood upgrade for a weapon is there way too disable it? Or ar...
Nope
Once it's in, it's in
thorn marsh
Gods, in descending order of general usefulness: Hermes>Chaos>Athena>Poseidon>Ev...
vastly depends on build
thorn marsh
If I select titan blood upgrade for a weapon is there way too disable it? Or ar...
yes
outer fulcrum
Once it's in, it's in
There are bad ones to avoid ?
hearty sierra
vastly depends on build
Which is why I said generally
brisk trail
If I select titan blood upgrade for a weapon is there way too disable it? Or ar...
no they are all improvements and you cant downgrade weapons
arctic oasis
For me Athena is mostly just the divine dash dispenser
thorn marsh
i literally dont use athena anymore
arctic oasis
And occasionally a death defiance refill
thorn marsh
if she appears and im not playing ME i just sigh
arctic oasis
Merciful end?
thorn marsh
yeah
hearty sierra
y'all play well and I can't deny that
arctic oasis
That’s the only other thing I use her for
hearty sierra
But athena gives DEATH DEFIANCE
thorn marsh
NO
hearty sierra
I shall defy thanatos
thorn marsh
i uh
only time i actively want athena is when im playing sword/fists
i dont sword or fists
so screw u athena never show up again
arctic oasis
That’s also the only time I want Athena, but I actually use the sword and fists
brisk trail
high heat athena is great 
hearty sierra
Zag fist supremacy
arctic oasis
But Demeter fists exist
hearty sierra
I shall shove my deflecting mittens up everyone's arse
outer fulcrum
I almost beat the game for my first time the other night. About to start back up
hearty sierra
I almost beat the game for my first time the other night. About to start back up
Good luck!
hearty sierra
I was the same with Hades' spear
brisk trail
to be fair hes underwhelming unless you use dash
arctic oasis
I’ve always found Demeter mostly useless
brisk trail
dem is in a rough spot yeah
hearty sierra
I’ve always found Demeter mostly useless
Boons or fist
arctic oasis
Boons
thorn marsh
Boons or fist
both Kappa
arctic oasis
Demeter fists are my fave weapon
hearty sierra
Boons???
brisk trail
but snow burst and ravenous will are good for cast builds at least
hearty sierra
Some mittens are gonna come for ya face lemme tell ya
hollow hawk
demeter also has winter's harvest
arctic oasis
I haven’t tried a lot of cast builds
thorn marsh
demeter is useless unless im playing hera which im playing rn to grind for speed
hollow hawk
which is the best legendary in the game, you cant convince me otherwise
thorn marsh
but
arctic oasis
So maybe my feelings will change
thorn marsh
demeter is underhwleming
hearty sierra
Winter's harvest, next highest scaling compared to aphro, amazing call
mint coral
winter harvest is the best effect wise imo, im more of a fan of splitting bolt
arctic oasis
Which aspects are good for cast builds besides Poseidon sword
hearty sierra
Not even to mention the many crystal builds
mint coral
Which aspects are good for cast builds besides Poseidon sword
hera, achilles, beowulf eris
thorn marsh
Which aspects are good for cast builds besides Poseidon sword
achilles beowulf hera eris
hollow hawk
splitting bolt overtakes it, yeah
hearty sierra
Eris?
brisk trail
I just dont think I ever want her cores over anything else optimally
thorn marsh
eris
hollow hawk
eris has so much global damage it can do anything
hearty sierra
That's odd
thorn marsh
eris was designed as a cast weapon
hollow hawk
cast builds, normal lightning build, drunken strike, whatever
hearty sierra
Yeah what's the point
hollow hawk
it just works
thorn marsh
eris is technically a cast weapon
mint coral
lightning rod build 
hearty sierra
If you want to use eris you'd pom the basic attack, no?
thorn marsh
depends on what u put on the basic attack
mint coral
depends what you are using, if you are using zeus you want to pom jolted
hearty sierra
There's nothing else to put
hollow hawk
optimally eris goes for lightning strike
arctic oasis
I had a fun eris build tonight
hearty sierra
Zeus, obvs
hollow hawk
but it can do cast builds very well too
thorn marsh
lightning strike poms do nothing
hollow hawk
because it has so much global damage
arctic oasis
Had triple rocket bomb
mint coral
hangover eris is fun too
thorn marsh
Had triple rocket bomb
sadge no clockets
thorn marsh
yeah
hollow hawk
which makes zeus attack much less apppealing because getting jolted/splitting is much harder
thorn marsh
retrash's 51 heat eris run was with hangover seeded iirc
hollow hawk
while drunken strike is just one boon and it works
thorn marsh
uh
hearty sierra
How do you actually get the fourth aspects
There's a quest you have to go through with Achilles
thorn marsh
just keep playing
arctic oasis
Oh
hearty sierra
Check #h1-story-discussion pins for more info
hearty sierra
YEAH
I gotchu fam :)
Why explain again when you can let someone else who did it before do it, eh
Anyway
Hermes boons are the best, then Chaos, then Athena/Poseidon, then everyone else
hearty sierra
Maybe Dio for his low-health restoration and resistance
thorn marsh
if he aint giving me rush delivery or quick reload he can heck right off
mint coral
hermes phrase is "oops, all common"
hearty sierra
I mean I bet I could win a 20 heat run with no boons other than heroic hermes boons and Sisyphus' shackle
hearty sierra
One special one cast and give me eris, then
thorn marsh
heroic rush delivery is 125% global damage
bit
what is 125% global damage doing if u have no damage in the first palce
mint coral
hestia shackle is good so i dont see why you wont be able
brisk trail
I did 40 heat boonless yeah
thorn marsh
One special one cast and give me eris, then
tat would defeat the purpose because eris is broken as hell
hearty sierra
Hestia like @mint coral mentioned, then
brisk trail
but that one doesnt depend on hermes either
hearty sierra
Reloading to snipe enemies is pretty fun
brisk trail
it depends on shackle
hearty sierra
I did 40 heat boonless yeah
40 is pretty ow for my self esteem
gods people are so much better than me at the game
Never lets me get egotistical, I swear
arctic oasis
Hermes never has the boons I want when I want them
Then they show up in another run where I don’t need them
brisk trail
my point is hermes with no other boon support=not a win, core boons without hermes=win
hearty sierra
Then they show up in another run where I don’t need them
You mean, Hermes, the Trickster god, is mischievous? Who would've guessed
brisk trail
but hermes is good anyway
hearty sierra
Good point, toffel!
hearty sierra
hermes does have the singular best boon in the game imo
It's Greatest Reflex innit
Has to be
thorn marsh
rush delivery is literally never useless
brisk trail
rush delivery is kinda broke yea
thorn marsh
while +dashes depends if u have a good dash
thorn marsh
u cant slap +dashes on mistral dash and do damage
but u can slap mistral dash on rush delivery and still be pogging
brisk trail
to be honest you can just win with hermes boons and rush delivery
arctic oasis
Are there any dashes worth getting other than Athena and Poseidon
brisk trail
artemis for bow
thorn marsh
OH DRUNKEN DASH
drunken dash and +dashes doesnt do crap
arty dash and +dashes only does much on like sword
welp maybe not drunken
BUT U GET THE POINT LOL
brisk trail
+dashes are like never bad imo but thats speedrunner brain vs heat runner brain probably
they do save my ass
thorn marsh
+dashes save everybody's ass
but my point is that rush delivery isnt situational and is literally always super beneficial
brisk trail
yeah very true
hearty sierra
I do adore Artemis Dash for my zag fists
arctic oasis
I forgot what Artemis dash does
hearty sierra
Dash-strikes are prevalent
brisk trail
I'd put extra dashes just under rush delivery and then hyper sprint
these are all the hermes boons I rly want tbh
thorn marsh
hyper sprint is just so poggies
its opens rush deliverya nd the ms speed is so comfy
hearty sierra
I'd put extra dashes just under rush delivery and then hyper sprint
Yeah there's a tier list for the eris guide but I think it also serves well as the general all-purpose hermes boon guide
thorn marsh
brisk trail
also I don think artemis dash is a common strat for fists but if it works for you
base dmg is just too low
it does benefit dash upper mybe?
brisk trail
might be cool on dem fists then
hearty sierra
Kinda figured that but it was that or artemis special on fists and I had to get one or the other to supplement spinny homing blades
And spinny homing blades carry games
brisk trail
arte special is pretty great tho
hearty sierra
I literally bind the special to the P key when I play fists
azure osprey
Does it melt most of his hp
brisk trail
ability?
arctic oasis
Which ability
azure osprey
The Zeus one
hearty sierra
Does it melt most of his hp
The call? It does a significant amount of damage
But not as good as, say, Aphro or Artemis
brisk trail
you wanna use lesser calls on zeus
azure osprey
I only care about damage wise
stoic flame
zeus call is one of my favourites
brisk trail
its one of the best
stoic flame
big damage
hearty sierra
If you want damage then Artemis is satisfying
brisk trail
but you need zeus t2 boons
hearty sierra
Strange that Aphro does a flat 2.5k damage while artemis scales, though
brisk trail
bye
stoic flame
good night
mint coral
zeus as always is a beast the moment you grab more of his boons
azure osprey
If you want damage then Artemis is satisfying
The full charge?
hearty sierra
The full charge?
Yep
azure osprey
I’m just so annoyed
My fights with hades
Take like 2 hours
Because I can’t deal enough damage in phase 2
brisk trail
that sounds like a build problem
and playstyle maybe
like what are you usually using
mint coral
what spear?
brisk trail
you should put aphro or artemis on special and try to find the exploding launcher hammer
brisk trail
I mean its a fine weapon
mint coral
exploding launcher and charged skewer for 2nd hammer if you are lucky
otherwise while not focusing on special you can do serrated point artemis attack
or just do ME
azure osprey
How is exploding launcher better then normal
You can get the backstab bonus with the normal one
Easily
mint coral
better base damage, AoE, no need to return it
brisk trail
its more dmg
mint coral
if you get a lot of backstab bonus ig? you will still lack AoE agaisnt normal encounters
azure osprey
You can aim the spear
thorn marsh
zeus call does insane damage
manic bobcat
The fact that you can spam special makes it better
manic bobcat
No recall is good
brisk trail
I mean we are just trying to give you advice on how to get better dps
manic bobcat
Backstab damage is a gimmick
thorn marsh
its way better
manic bobcat
Don't be fooled
thorn marsh
and the backstab damage isnt that good
id use fiery prescence
helps so much for those damage breakpoints in tart
azure osprey
id use fiery prescence
I’m new to the game I don’t really remember all the names
brisk trail
also straight up pom the hell out of your special boon and get supporting t2 boons if you do special only
mint coral
isnt artemis pom scaling really bad tho 
brisk trail
every mirror talent has an alt talent
azure osprey
Do you have to unlock that
brisk trail
no theres like a button
mint coral
nyx mentions your mirror is stronger when is unlocked or something like that
near dune
So I’ve played since Xbox launch and I was wondering how you got the 4th weapon upgrade?
brisk trail
on the left of the text
thorn marsh
So I’ve played since Xbox launch and I was wondering how you got the 4th weapon ...
keep playing
just
in order to get the other hidden aspects
near dune
Gotcha, I’ve just beaten final boss three times
manic bobcat
So I’ve played since Xbox launch and I was wondering how you got the 4th weapon ...
There's a pinned guide in #h1-story-discussion if you are really curious.
brisk trail
yeah its a story progression thing
azure osprey
nyx mentions your mirror is stronger when is unlocked or something like that
OOOH
So that’s what she was talking about
mint coral
the first time i absolutely missed that
during my 2nd file was when i associated the dialogue to the green side unlocked
near dune
I feel like the shield is super op, haven’t lost a game with the 5 extra throwable shields. Any other weapon upgrade I need to go for?
thorn marsh
uh
brisk trail
the weapons you like tbh
thorn marsh
yeah
near dune
I never really use any other weapon
thorn marsh
but the best shield by far is its hidden aspect
near dune
Ofc
thorn marsh
which cant be said for any of the other weapons LOL imo
azure osprey
What’s the name of the spear again
thorn marsh
varatha
brisk trail
hidden aspects are hit or miss ye
mint coral
i mean as always depends for what are you using them
i would use hestia for higher heats than eris
wait wrong example
thorn marsh
i mean as always depends for what are you using them
i would use hestia for high...
different weapons and excel at different things
but no hidden aspect is vastly better than the other aspect except for shield imo
outer fulcrum
If I pick a shop boon 50 armor damage and buy a second do they stack ? So 100 armor damage
thorn marsh
nail of talos?
outer fulcrum
One is 14 rounds other 6 rounds left
thorn marsh
i think it stacks yeah
azure osprey
I still don’t get what the aspect of guan yu does
outer fulcrum
And yeah nail I also got duplicates of eye of lamia active
mint coral
changes your spin to a beyblade that heals you 1 hp x hit
also changes main combo and special
special being like exploding launcher build in
thorn marsh
I still don’t get what the aspect of guan yu does
beeg special damage
thorn marsh
special being like exploding launcher build in
its called crackling skewer iirc
so
its like if u strap a nuke onto exploding launcher
and shoot said nuked exploding launcher into fireworks
thorn marsh
not happening
azure osprey
Sad
outer fulcrum
Probably not. They probably released hades and on to next project though atleast
But who knows with the success of hades what they gonna do
stoic flame
they chillin rn
short glen
Hades 3. They just skip 2
azure osprey
But who knows with the success of hades what they gonna do
Dlc for rougelikes are usually really good
stoic flame
in Egyptian myth
azure osprey
They can make a lot of money out of a 10$ dlc or something
mint coral
i would like to see what other concepts they can do, im satisfied with hades content tbh
bring back pyre world :c
stoic flame
Osiris 😳
azure osprey
Osiris
whole ridge
So quick question, if I take of Thanatos's Keepsake, do I keep the extra damage I've up until now accumulated?
Just wanted to ask before I attempted swapping it for Skele going into Nyx
mint coral
needs to be equipped or you lose the effects
raw herald
If you remove the keepsake you lose the bonus
Same with hermes' keepsake
Although you keep the money from the coin purse
whole ridge
Thanks, I wanted to be sure first. Thanks to Patroclus I have all my Death Defiance entering Nyx, and didn't want to give up 14%
whole ridge
Sorry xD Styx
thorn marsh
lul
whole ridge
But yeah, I'd have had more but the keepsake wasn't upgraded yet
outer fulcrum
Rate crop boon is just for current equipped boons or all future boons to be common then gain rarity ?
Rare crop +*
signal aspen
a random boon that you have
viscid quail
loll I hadn't played in a while and i was freaking out thinking that Nyx is a boss now
that would be a crazy update
polar root
Plot twist
short glen
Imagine EM4 Nyx
Em5
dusky wedge
Yeah
thorn marsh
I actually feel bad
about wat?
manic bobcat
Asian Dad boss: you escape yet? talk to me when you escape
polar root
Well
dusky wedge
This server really does make me think more about people in general. The game does that to you, and now I think more of people
cedar nexus
dusky wedge
Thinking about my first experience about the game, it does touch on sensitive social issues (at least in my place) but now, I can now grasp the topic and form my own opinion about it, not the opinion my community makes me think
polar root
if you're improving, in any aspect, it's good
dusky wedge
I do hope so
brisk trail
Mr Hades is very grouchy
polar root
I don't know that word
brisk trail
Grumpy?
brisk trail
I just started playing the game yesterday (about 4 hours), first rouge like to really hook me (it's a rouge like right?)
thorn marsh
yeah
brisk trail
Smurt
thin canyon
I just started playing the game yesterday (about 4 hours), first rouge like to r...
rougelite, yes
stiff parcel
I wanna date Hypnos . . . Your move super giant 😂
signal aspen
brisk trail
She's a head lmao
brisk trail
She is pretty cute I'll give her that
azure osprey
She is the reason I live
azure osprey
Guys dusa should be a playable character
brisk trail
Guys dusa should be a playable character
I agree on that one
azure osprey
You are so smart
brisk trail
Dusa is the best
brisk trail
we all got one!
I don't
south lagoon
what!
short glen
That man is a hitmonlee
manic bobcat
Lmao
short glen
STG hitmonlee has a shell
manic bobcat
I had no head, too.
undone stag
that moment when you get stuck in the lava and die
why am i progressively doing worse lmao
mint coral
Lava is a mortal enemy of all
short glen
Lava cringe bro
manic bobcat
Have you tried not stepping on lava?
short glen
Just go home lava, no one likes you
manic bobcat
That works for me
short glen
I tried that, it didn't really work out
signal aspen
biggest brain
mint coral
Lava is your best ally for heals in high heat
short glen
Dusa is adorable, that's what
much better than the aphrodite simp club, at least if you ask my asexual butt
manic bobcat
much better than the aphrodite simp club, at least if you ask my asexual butt
Preach
short glen
Reject horny, return to adorable
quartz hearth
Dusa is an unalloyed delight 💕
The lava in Asphodel is an absolute pain in the arse 😑
shadow kernel
The first time I ever got to asphodel I was low hp and I accidentally killed myself in lava before the first chamber
quartz hearth
I have never forgotten finally getting past Meg for the first time, then immediately managing to get stuck in the lava while trying to board the first raft in Asphodel and losing most of the health I'd just regained, allowing the mooks in the next chamber to kick me straight back into the Styx.
pfft, same hat, Mud
shadow kernel
Lmfao
signal aspen
when i was new to the game i always stood in the lava trying to get onto the boat
mint coral
I died just before reaching the hydra once
modern garnet
They should really put a "watch your step" sign near the rafts
quartz hearth
why do we have to board the boat, anyway?? why can't we just run up to it and hit the interact button like the doors in Tartarus and Elysium??
mint coral
Tbf with that low amount of hp i wouldnt have beated it but still
quartz hearth
it seems like a purely unnecessary bit of extra frustration 🙃
pretty unusual for SGG's usually streamlined and player-friendly design
chrome wharf
uh, but you can just run up to it?
signal aspen
no
chrome wharf
the interaction point is the sphere
yes, I always just dash up to the circle showing the reward and click interact
quartz hearth
I always seem to have to take a few steps onto the raft proper before it lets me interact
chrome wharf
You'll see the lava damage animation but won't take damage
quartz hearth
dashing and hammering the interact button works, more or less, but it took me a while to work that out
lots of very ginger tiptoeing onto the raft in the meantime, not intuitive or fun D:
if they were moored sidelong to the islands instead of perpendicular, it'd solve the problem entirely
brisk trail
Wait which God give you the power to heal your self when you don't have any death defiance?
modern garnet
athena + demeter
modern garnet
yeah you gotta get their duo boon
real thorn
The first time I ever got to asphodel I was low hp and I accidentally killed mys...
Can relate, the lava used to cause me so much grief. Now it’s like a minor humidity
brisk trail
Hm yeah it will take a while
stable glen
brisk trail
Nice
So the greater call of Aphrodite is op idk why I fought the bone hydra and it have the last bit of health after they get there last shield then I hit them with the greater call and I kill them
quartz hearth
her greater call is fantastic for dropping the hammer on bosses
signal aspen
it deals 2500 damage at max
quartz hearth
the Power of Love (is kicking @$$, apparently)
brisk trail
Lol death with love
I just want to see zag screaming at one of the bosses "I'M GOING TO KILL YOU WITH THE POWER OF LOVE and this Aphrodite that I found"
brisk trail
Bruh he is talking in the language of Chads
knotty bramble
I believe in Bouldy, and Bouldy believes in me
white ermine
Guys how get lucifer aspect, I unlock Aspect of Guan Yu, then invest at least 5 Titan Bloods into any Rail aspects. But Zeus not tell me key world, I tried speak with him 10 times, but he dont tell me. What I do wrong?
brisk trail
Idk
knotty bramble
I've been trying to get the shield aspect but Chaos just won't tell me
thorn marsh
I've been trying to get the shield aspect but Chaos just won't tell me
im assuming u already got guan yu yeah?
knotty bramble
I like it
signal aspen
chrome wharf
Aphro aid is fun with dad since he grunts whenever you charm him
knotty bramble
I really like it
let's me be fast and aggressive
second favourite for that is Hades spear
signal aspen
knotty bramble
I prefer Hades
signal aspen
achilles is the complete opposite
knotty bramble
how is hades spear fast and aggressive
I can rush into large groups and spin
thorn marsh
but spinning isnt fast
knotty bramble
It is with the right upgrades
Also
Achilles is basically just bull rush for the spear
raw herald
But fast
thorn marsh
^
knotty bramble
Yes but it also lowers special range by 10%
knotty bramble
and if I'm throwing the spear then I want to do it from a distance
I want to do a Theseus
thorn marsh
then play zag spear
signal aspen
then play guan yu
knotty bramble
Oh not a chance
raw herald
Yeah you don't play Achilles to do a special build
thorn marsh
u really dont
knotty bramble
Listen
signal aspen
no
short glen
Gilgamesh good
signal aspen
no
thorn marsh
aye im tryna eat can u not mention gilgamesh
short glen
Gilgamesh good, you cannot change my midn
thorn marsh
the aspect makes me think of trash
short glen
That's how I feel about Guan Yu funnily enough
knotty bramble
the aspect makes me think of *trash*
How do you confuse Gilgamesh with Guan Yu
short glen
^
thorn marsh
How do you confuse Gilgamesh with Guan Yu
what?
brisk trail
Those don't sound very greek
signal aspen
yeah
void vigil
Guys how get lucifer aspect, I unlock Aspect of Guan Yu, then invest at least 5 ...
you have to speak to him while wielding the rail first, and he has to comment on it
brisk trail
Arthur? Like the king?
knotty bramble
Yes
signal aspen
arthur like the greek god
knotty bramble
Yes
short glen
Arthur like the guy living down the road
knotty bramble
Little tip
try avoiding channels where people are able to speak freely of spoilers
brisk trail
I don't really mind, like I'm not particularly playing for the story
real thorn
who needs spear special when flurry jab exists
knotty bramble
Who needs weapons when you have Rod of Fishing
short glen
Does EM4 Hade's lasers have some sort of drawing you in property, because I swear to god they're way harder to dash out of then the normal ones
signal aspen
when he starts shooting lasers he pushes you back
crude surge
Can’t hug 
signal aspen
so you cant hug him anymore
knotty bramble
Charon is a chad
knotty bramble
Nice
fiery bramble
the barge is charon's yacht
Omg lol I'm just now realizing this
knotty bramble
I prefer that over the Witches circle anyway
signal aspen
witches circle is better
ripe anvil
I'm going to hopefully buy the game tmr 
signal aspen
poggers
fiery bramble
Witches Circle without Divine Shield is the worst
knotty bramble
Witches Circle is literal hell in hell
thorn marsh
witches circle is faster than barge
so
witches circle better
but power couple is faster than witches circle
knotty bramble
I prefer power couple over circle
signal aspen
yeah i think that the power couple is my favorite asphodel miniboss
raw herald
My favourite is witches
thorn marsh
NO BARGE IS THE WORDT
raw herald
Barge is bad for speedrunning
thorn marsh
1/3 CHANCE FOR A 20 SECOND TIMELOSS
chrome wharf
and that is why I don't speedrun
knotty bramble
I don't care about timeloss
raw herald
And that's why I play modded
knotty bramble
barge second best
thorn marsh
and thats why im a masochist
raw herald
Mine is meg
signal aspen
her beyblades are annoying
chrome wharf
Tisiphone :)
raw herald
Meg has the least health
thorn marsh
and tisiphone is a timeloss that has ruined many of my sub 2 tarts
near dune
Meg is the hardest for me but it’s not like I die to any of them
knotty bramble
and tisiphone is a timeloss that has ruined many of my sub 2 tarts
L
chrome wharf
can you damage bosses past the phase change HP threshold?
signal aspen
no
raw herald
You used to be able to
chrome wharf
or will it nerf your last hit
raw herald
You might have seen the Lernie skip back in early access
real thorn
guess they didn't want no more overkill or i would've destroyed the bull
chrome wharf
boooo
knotty bramble
Lernie just trying to support his family
crude surge
I like Tis if I’m on Antos
She only had two phases so you get the full damage from it
near dune
What’s everyone’s favorite weapon?
I like the shield the most but what should I grind Titans blood for
knotty bramble
Whatever you want
mint coral
got exclusive access in tartarus, this is gonna be fun
raw herald
Epic swift strike and quick recovery incoming
mint coral
pls no
thorn marsh
What’s everyone’s favorite weapon?
look at my name
crude surge
Beo and Eris
signal aspen
What’s everyone’s favorite weapon?
Zeus
chrome wharf
Banana, Zeus and all the bows
quiet lily
What’s everyone’s favorite weapon?
Zag bow, shattered shackle with divine dash
artemis critical chance boosting helps, just keep the tier 1 attack slot empty unless you get the chance for a 100%+ attack boon
hearty bramble
greg is taking questions on stream rn! :D https://www.twitch.tv/wiredmag
stiff parcel
Question
What’s the debuff the final boss applies trying not to spoil it for new player but what does that debuff do
signal aspen
It makes you take 100% damage from him
stiff parcel
I know the name
stiff parcel
It makes you take 100% damage from him
Thank you
stiff parcel
Fought him 4 times lost each time first time I almost one but yeah the surprise got me
signal aspen
hades boiling blood + spin attack is just *death*
Boiling blood+ hl5+ maim
stiff parcel
He resurrected and got me the first time bs I tell yah
mint coral
epic flurry cast was fun
lmao, just noticed i changed from high confidence to thick skin but mirror was reseted 
50 hp without benefit
stiff parcel
🗿
I reset my mirror for the 3 death defy I’m certain I’ll win with a decent run with three death defy if I make it
near dune
I use well of Charon on 3rd stage so I can buy from the shop right before boss fight. Is that an original idea or something
Then I could switch out my keepsake before going into the 4th.
shadow kernel
Bruh I was meming around while hunting the last few bounties I needed and I accidentally lost all 3 DDs vs heros and had to fight FO1 superdad with no DDs
What a wild ride
short glen
did you win?
shadow kernel
Had to cheese him by blocking with shield and using smouldering air Zeus call
Won on 28hp
brisk trail
Hey what can I do with ambrosia?
mint coral
it replaces the use of nectar for characters you have a lot of hearts with
brisk trail
Oh ok then so I still need some titan blood should I buy it with the ambrosia?
brisk trail
Yeah ok
pallid sun
hey is there a way to get the Steam version of Hades to display better on my new widescreen monitor?
signal aspen
You should ask in #h1-tech-support
pallid sun
Okay
whole ridge
Woohoo! Daddy slain by the Spear for clear #3. Barely did it too, cost me my Death Defiances (all including Skelly's) and survived with just 15 HP left
stray shuttle
so ive been getting deadly strike and Slicing Shot but im not getting the duo boon?
mint coral
do you fill out your other core boons? (special, cast) the game will keep making them appear if you dont, boosted rarity from any source?
and be sure to not get other duo boons pre requisites
stray shuttle
oh i didnt know i have to fill them all
thorn marsh
also
its completely chance
u dont have to fill them all
its just chance homie
thats it
its rng
stray shuttle
damn
thorn marsh
filling all ur core boons increase the chance though
as long as u dont open up other duo's
stray shuttle
ah ok thanks
thorn marsh
boosted rarity like gods legacy yarn and eurydice help as well
stray shuttle
boosted rarity like gods legacy yarn and eurydice help as well
i only have gods legacy
granite ether
Though in saying that it's really satisfying to see 3 duos pop up in a boon selection
thorn marsh
i only have gods legacy
have u not heard of gods pride?
stray shuttle
have u not heard of gods pride?
yea no
thorn marsh
yea no
can u not change ur mirror options?
look for something next to text of the thing
its looks like two arrows pressing against each other
thorn marsh
dark foresight
stray shuttle
think so
thorn marsh
no i know its called dark foresight
yeah ok
but yeah
gods legacy can help
eurydice and yarn
but at the end of the day
its RNG
mint coral
also miniboss chamber
thorn marsh
also miniboss chamber
minibosses decrease duo chance by a whole incredible 2% iirc
remote void
That seems odd
brisk trail
How big is the difference for hades between pc and ps5
All of my progress is on pc but if ps5 is a lot better I’m willing to start a new save
modern garnet
It's the same game I think
brisk trail
I know lol
modern garnet
If your ps5 is stronger than your computer then it might be better
brisk trail
I have a really good pc and laptop
I should be fine
I just saw people saying ps5 was the best version
granite ether
The ps5 (and by extension the xbox and switch versions) are exactly the same as the pc version
Absolutely nothing gameplay wise is differant between them
The only differance is there's cross save functionality between switch and pc.
So those saying the ps5 version is the 'best' version are wrong but not entirely
Because the 'best' version is whatever version you're playing at the time 
arctic oasis
Does high fps benefit hades at all
stray shuttle
Does high fps benefit hades at all
if its not a slideshow i think your fine
granite ether
If you're comfy playing with controller I'd say stick with with it
arctic oasis
I’ve used it a few times and it was fine but most of the time I’m too lazy to reach behind my desk and plug it in lol
stray shuttle
well i mean kinda ive only used controller
granite ether
But if you think kbm will be more comfy for you, try it out
stray shuttle
but controler is better but if your used to keyboard stick with it
granite ether
but controler is better but if your used to keyboard stick with it
Control scheme is entirely personal preference regardless of what the game reccomends
brisk trail
I’m used to keyboard but I want to get used to controller
Everything feels better except for aiming
granite ether
The combo controller + mouse control scheme might work for you then
brisk trail
Personally I only like using one control type
thorn marsh
That seems odd
it is but yeah
silent lagoon
is there a way to increase the chances of running into sisyphus in tartarus or do I have to be lucky?
signal aspen
No
silent lagoon
pain
thorn marsh
is there a way to increase the chances of running into sisyphus in tartarus or d...
just rng
same for patroclus and eurydice
balmy valley
Is there a way I can send suggestion to Hades team?
silent lagoon
damn im just unlucky then
chrome wharf
Is there a way I can send suggestion to Hades team?
the supergiant contact page on their website
near dune
How many times does it take chaos to comment on your shield to get the 4th aspect
It’s been a hour of me dying and replaying to get him to say something else
chrome wharf
it's rng
near dune
I have spent like 20 Titans blood on my shield and have the 4th aspect for spear
😑 ofc
chrome wharf
After they comment on the shield, you don't have to even have the shield equipped for the phrase
just chill around and wait for rng to come to you
modern garnet
If you just play the game normally you'll get all the hidden aspects eventually
ripe rapids
||Do boons that replenish Stubborn Defiance give you an extra if you’re topped off?||
thorn marsh
||Do boons that replenish Stubborn Defiance give you an extra if you’re topped o...
u can die before picking up an athena or sum and get a dd and that'll give u an extra
wont replenish if u lose it though
pure rain
how do you upgrade weapons with the stuff you get from the furys cause i have no idea?
mint coral
get all weapons, do a run afterwards then check your equiped weapon in the house
thorn marsh
me?
pure rain
yeah
thorn marsh
are we talking about getting to credits or finishing aka epilogue the game?
pure rain
just like beating the final boss ive only gotten to the second bos so i dont know what your talking about
karmic skiff
Is the 32 heat statue the hardest achievement I have to worry about?
steam achievements I mean
rapid forum
no steam achievement for 32 heats
karmic skiff
oh
thorn marsh
only 8 and 16 have
thorn marsh
just like beating the final boss ive only gotten to the second bos so i dont kno...
ive beat the final boss too many times to count LOL
karmic skiff
ok well so is 16 heat the hardest achievement I have to worry about?
pure rain
but how long did it take you to beat it for the first time
karmic skiff
after that all the steam achievements are just time investments right
mint coral
idk in hours but it took me 50 escape attempts to get the first succeful one
pure rain
yes i just want to know how long you had the game until you beat the final boss @thorn marsh
karmic skiff
idk in hours but it took me 50 escape attempts to get the first succeful one
yep hell mode was awesome
karmic skiff
ah
rapid forum
first win, 22 runs, normal mode, around 10 hours
dusk yoke
hey guys question... I am trying to "cheese" getting the zeus final gun aspect by equippng the ring and then only starting a run for the first gauranteed zues drop if its not what I want, I die, and try again
anyone know if this ACTUALLY works? cause ive been doing this for 2 days now, with no luck
karmic skiff
mine was iirc
first win, 48 runs, hell mode, around 21.5 hours in
thorn marsh
attempt 79
pure rain
cool
mint coral
havent done hell mode
thorn marsh
anyone know if this ACTUALLY works? cause ive been doing this for 2 days now, wi...
im like 95% it works
just unlucky
dusk yoke
ty vm
thorn marsh
hey guys question... I am trying to "cheese" getting the zeus final gun aspect b...
u already have the final spear aspect right?
chrome wharf
hey guys question... I am trying to "cheese" getting the zeus final gun aspect b...
from what I've seen around here, rng can't be forced, just chill and let it come to you
Guan Yu
karmic skiff
havent done hell mode <:ron:459075377906712586>
imo not worth it lol
chrome wharf
there's also a Xiang Yu but he's long before GY's time
karmic skiff
like ok it was easier to hit 32 heat
dusk yoke
im bored, already finished the game many tiems lol
I wanna play with the new gun looks fun
mint coral
got my 32 heat with spear 
chrome wharf
ayy
karmic skiff
but there are barely any incentives for doing hell mode
dusk yoke
doing last boss with a gun is an intense fun fight btw lol
mint coral
got my 32 heat with spear <a:BibiCheerA:754807382982524968>
tfw i failed with flurry jab bc i decided it would be fun to do fo2
dusk yoke
my first time beating it I cheesed it with the shield, like everyone else 😛
mint coral
wininng run was with serrated
fiery bramble
I used fists lol, first run ever using them too
chrome wharf
lol mine was with sword
mint coral
mine was with fists but doing a cast build
chrome wharf
still remember using Athena greater call to go ham for the win
karmic skiff
I don't think my 32 heat win counts haha
karmic skiff
i used the epilogue to skip the final boss
chrome wharf
cool hack lol
neat stag
What is a good first “easy” modification to do for 1 heat? I just beat the game last night, and haven’t experimented yet.
dusk yoke
more mobs
thorn marsh
HL1 is pretty free
dusk yoke
= pretty much the same game lol
dusk yoke
get anything that chains attacks, and it actually makes the game easier lol
karmic skiff
and that happens for everyone
you mean everyone makes it a point to ramp it up to 32 heat on the 10th clear?
thorn marsh
you mean everyone makes it a point to ramp it up to 32 heat on the 10th clear?
oh no LOL
mint coral
just add whatever sounds fun tbh for the 1st heat
rapid forum
HL1 is pretty free
so is HS
thorn marsh
i meant that the 9th time u beat hades the 10th time you'll always skip the boss
thorn marsh
yea
pretty neat
that the game builds up all the adrenaline and then just says NAH WE SKIPPING
mint coral
y'all were into the "barely alive, thanks gods" or the "rip this op build i didnt test"
karmic skiff
i honestly didn't expect it even if i was spoiled it would happen
like by Styx i was doubting that it was the 10th clear
"surely it's only my 9th"
chrome wharf
or the yeeeaaaah not selling that Great Catch for luck was the best call I made this run
karmic skiff
I imagine it would be a funny conversation if zag told skelly his 32 heat win didn't involve him actually beating his dad
arctic oasis
Is it weird to find elysium harder than Styx
thorn marsh
no
dusk yoke
elysium is just more annoying, cause you have to kill everything twice lol
thorn marsh
elysium is the hardest region imo
dusk yoke
some would argue temple is the hardest, but by then your tree is already VERY kitted out, so you can usually just smoke everything in there, only taking some damage
granite ether
Elysium is very much a vibe check for builds
dusk yoke
truth
arctic oasis
It’s funny how things have flipped for me
I used to find Styx so hard and would lose death defiances there
And I used to find lernie so hard and now he’s the easiest boss for me
dusk yoke
its just cramped, and claustrophobic
arctic oasis
Besides maybe Meg I suppose
dusk yoke
normal meg is a joke
arctic oasis
Without extreme measures
chrome wharf
Styx is on the average less hard than Elysium but can go bad very quickly
arctic oasis
Yep she is lol
I think I found Styx hard because I had bad builds
And lost a lot of HP in elysium
arctic oasis
and I used to love the shield and struggled to get used to weapons that couldn’t block
Now I rarely use the shield
dusk yoke
same lol
arctic oasis
Actually don’t remember the last time I used it
arctic oasis
But I should get back into it and try some cool builds