#h1-discussion

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high island
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I hope Toffel isn't finishing 55 anytime soon, I'd have to do 56. shadeembarassed

hard pawn
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Jeez

high island
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60 Heat WR is Tailesque, yes. 51 is the 1st place on the High Heat Women's Leaderboard.

hard pawn
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I meant for achilles lol

high island
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Oh.

hard pawn
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Why is there a separate leaderboard for women aren't we all the same when gamin'

high island
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I don't know off the top of my head. Check the leaderboard.

hard pawn
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Well if it is tail's 52 achilles run, I will have to get 53 to beat it so I guess thats whats after 50 lol

high island
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Because I was the only woman doing high heat for the longest time. shadegrief

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Until Toffel made it 2.

hard pawn
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Aw

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Well 3 is the charm aPES2_SunglassesDriveAway

amber kraken
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Dam Orpheous and Euridice are lethal when using the timed trial.

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They started singing 'in the blood' I stood no chance

hard pawn
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Huh

amber kraken
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(I need to complete each stage of the underworld in under 7 minutes. But I stopped to listen to them sing losing alot of time and dying)

hard pawn
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under 7 minutes huh hows that goin

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What aspect

high island
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The timer pauses in friendship rooms.

amber kraken
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Gilgamesh

hard pawn
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Wasn't gilga like

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The worst aspect

amber kraken
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Does it? Okay then I might just have been to slow xD

hard pawn
amber kraken
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I like it

hard pawn
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Oop thats great I wish I could like it to

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Too*** omg

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Can I stop making typos

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If you aren't very keen on gilga there are plenty of other aspects that will grant you a better time

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I know theres a gilga expert in this discord

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You might want some advice from em

chrome wharf
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yeah my relationship with being a "serious" gamer is always like. Wanting to rank up there as an afab but also rather spend time doing other hobbies

tawdry tundra
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oh no

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hard desicion

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the 125 coin bag of random god

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or centaur heart

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its the last shop in tartarus

hard pawn
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Thats completely conditional but for the sake of fun I'd say random god

high island
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It's probably not the worst on an average run, but it's just bad at what it tries to be... whatever that is. But it's definitely among the worst for high heat and for speedruns.

tawdry tundra
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im going random ig

high island
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But that assumes optimal play, anyway.

tawdry tundra
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ive already gotten two hearts in tartarus

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zeus

hard pawn
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Would you mind rephrasin

tawdry tundra
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its special, thunder dash or epic lighting reflexes

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i have one reroll but id rather not use it here

high island
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Why does "rephrasin" look like the name of a drug.

tawdry tundra
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now that you mention it it really does

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actually

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something ive never bothered to ask but am really curious about

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whats the play with eurydice

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ive usually just taken the boon upgrade or in rare cases pom porridge

dusky wedge
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Wdym?

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Oh lol

tawdry tundra
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but whats actually the most useful one

dusky wedge
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Boon upgrade is good if you still have few boons, so that it hits the boons you’d want to upgrade instead of other you don’t want to

tawdry tundra
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but what about the other boon upgrade

dusky wedge
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Usually, I just take the 3 next boon rarity upgrade, that’s just better on most situation when I met Eurydice

signal aspen
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I usually take the ambrosia and hope it hits something good, if it doesn't, then I will quit, come back, and take the pom

tawdry tundra
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ah

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am not planning to savescum

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oooh

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next thing is hermes

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and i took boon upgrade

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hermes is nice with rares epics and the like

chrome wharf
# hard pawn Would you mind rephrasin

so like what Nyaanyaa was saying there are relatively few women into high level/competitive gaming (compared to men), so as someone part of the "physiological" and/or identifying female crowd whenever I get into a game I think "I should try ranking to be an example" but then look at the practice/rng involved and it's like, so much time I'd rather spend on other hobbies

tawdry tundra
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greatest reflex, swift strike or greater evasion

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all of them are rare

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i took greatest reflex because 2+ consecuitive dashes is too good to pass up on

dusky wedge
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The best imo is reflex

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Not the best choices, definitely

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Whenever I see Hermes, all I can remember is Rush Delivery

tawdry tundra
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what is that

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the returning cast thing or

dusky wedge
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Extra damage when you have a speed boost

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Move speed boost, that is

high island
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Eurydice picks depend a lot on what you have and what you're still looking for. When you're not sure what to take, just grab Refreshing Nectar.

tawdry tundra
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k

hard pawn
high island
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That gives you the most control over what gets upgraded, most of the time you end up with an upgraded Lord Hermes boon, which is huge, and you get better odds for Duo and Legendary boons.

dusky wedge
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Does it stack with the mirror better odds of legends and duos?

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Or does it, like, triggers two times?

onyx hemlock
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Got all the way to the last fight with beowulf, and forgot it was my 10th time getting there, so got a free pass xD

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Spared a [Redacted] fight with no death defiance lmao

high island
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Yarn of Ariadne and Refreshing Nectar don't stack with each other, but they stack with any other rarity bonuses.

amber kraken
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Gilgamesh's fists are fun. Yea I keep dying. But I also seem to be easily killing everything as well

modern garnet
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that sure is the tradeoff that maim gives you

amber kraken
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better than the special spear trade off in which I keep dying with hardly any benefit

chrome wharf
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it's doom at home

foggy orbit
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So what is Merciful End doing, exactly? Are deflect effects suppose to trigger new doom effects or are they only instantly triggering prior ones?

modern garnet
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they instantly trigger prior ones

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the reason it's strong is that if you have doom on attack and deflect on dash, you can just do dash strikes over and over

foggy orbit
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Awesome, thank you for the clarification. That makes more sense.

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I totally just built backwards for ME then, lol, but it’s all good.

modern garnet
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I think you'll make it work

foggy orbit
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Yeah, I think so, just not in the way I was intending, lol

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Doing a Hestia run with Athena on attack and Aries on special. But I also have most of the doom buffs and the triple bomb hammer too, so should work out in the end.

sly salmon
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that could have gone poorly

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good thing I'm poor

amber kraken
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whats wrong with having an athena boon?

sly salmon
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I just wanted a fish

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:(

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also also, I'd much rather buy 2 other boons instead with the coin

tawdry tundra
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whats a weapon/aspect i should try to pick up so i dont only play spear? (i hate ranged)

high island
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Malphon, perhaps?

tawdry tundra
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the problem with malphon

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is that its too melee

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somehow

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i want to be up in the enemies face but not that up in the enemies face

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but thats the entire problem

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spear has around the only range i like

high island
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Lol

tawdry tundra
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maybe i should just wing it and try bow

high island
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Tbh Eris is very much that.

tawdry tundra
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whats the best aspect for bow

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i have two titan blood to go around

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or should i save them

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hell if i know

high island
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Probably wanna take Hera and swap to Stygian Soul and get Trippy Flare (Cast from Lord Dionysus).

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For Stygian Soul builds, Lv.1 Hera is exactly the same as Lv.5 Hera, really.

tawdry tundra
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so that means i should start the run with overflowing cup

thorn marsh
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yeah

tawdry tundra
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the fact that you are called local hera player makes this 10 times better

modern garnet
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i wonder if "global hera player" is around here somewhere

sly salmon
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can you attack with hades' aid?

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like while invis? o.o

tawdry tundra
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i got past tartarus with hera

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i may have been on 16 health with no death defiance after alecto but then again, it was alecto and my first time really using hera

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i got murdered in asphodel

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expected

high island
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Make sure you put a lot of poms on your Trippy Flare, and try to get +1 ammo from Master Chaos and from Wells of Charon.

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Bonus Cast damage is always good, too.

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And then try to get Snow Burst and/or Mirage Shot and just keep putting poms on your Cast.

tawdry tundra
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so essentially

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CAST

high island
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Yeah lol.

modern garnet
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if you're not casting, you're not blastin

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or somethin

shadow kernel
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How do you play eris without just dying

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I take so much damage when I play eris

tawdry tundra
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well the spear got the 20% darkness buff and i still only have 2 on fated persuation so now im grinding darkness

shadow kernel
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But hestia I can play much more cautiously and still get big damage

tawdry tundra
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i got demeter attack with serrated point

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its pretty good so far

modern garnet
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I dunno if eris necessarily requires an aggressive build... you can take it easy

thorn marsh
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eris is an aggressive weapon though

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eris is essentially a melee weapon

modern garnet
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You don't have to hit yourself AND an enemy with the special if you're not comfortable with that

tawdry tundra
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holy moly

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epic hunter dash

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70% more dash attack damage

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with serrated point

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and another 94 from epic level 2 frost strike

modern garnet
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Nice.... sounds like a fun spear

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What aspect

high island
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Probably Hades again.

tawdry tundra
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hades

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thats the only one i run

high island
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Try to get Killing Freeze and maybe more Dash-Strike damage from Master Chaos.

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Arctic Blast not too bad either for boss damage since you'll apply Chill three times with every Dash-Strike.

tawdry tundra
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barge of death is feeling like barge of life

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i probably finished it in less than 10 seconds

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and now i get a dio boon with sparkles

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t r i p p y s h o t

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i think ill take that

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the only other thing of note is premium vintage

high island
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Premium Vintage is really good.

tawdry tundra
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but trippy shot

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and i dont run into nectar than often

keen lichen
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what's the difference in a "laurel" boon?

high island
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Trippy Shot doesn't apply Boiling Blood, but it's alright.

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Even if you never run into another Nectar, it's a pom slice + HP right there and then. That's a lot of value.

tawdry tundra
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i dont have that upgrade yet

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too many diamonds

high island
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Oh gotcha. But it's still HP, so that's decent.

tawdry tundra
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if i was getting one i would probably go for fated cthonic keys

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yeah its 30hp

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its rare too

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but so is the trippy shot

keen lichen
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i know laurel hp, pom and gold are basically double the thing.
but boons? what does the laurel do in a boon? increased rarity? starts at level 2?

high island
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Tbh you're probably thinking more about this choice right now than it actually matters. They're both alright picks.

tawdry tundra
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i guess ill take premium vintage

high island
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All of the exits have laurels on them. Gold laurels and cobalt laurels.

keen lichen
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oh and dark foresight makes gold laurels more frequent than blue ones?

tawdry tundra
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oh yeah i forgot

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i also have another 52% damage from chaos

high island
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Dark Foresight changes the odds from 50/50 for gold vs blue to 70/30.

tawdry tundra
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hmm

high island
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Minibosses and Styx tunnels are always gold laurels, though. So they're unaffected.

tawdry tundra
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pom or mystery bag

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pom could buff dash attack even more

high island
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Maybe link a screenshot to your build right now.

tawdry tundra
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but bag could also be really good

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me?

high island
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Yeah.

tawdry tundra
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how to

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link

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i know how to take

high island
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Oh, you gotta upload it to an image host like imgur, or you can upload it to private discord server and get the direct link from there.

tawdry tundra
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too many steps

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guess ill just dm it if thats ok

high island
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I guess, but I'd rather you just link it.

tawdry tundra
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fair but firstly ive never done that before secondly i kind of just want to continue my run

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actually

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frick it

chrome yoke
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Im gonna fight hades for the first time ever now

high island
tawdry tundra
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EPIC:
hunter dash
frost strike lvl 3
aspect of hades
posidons aid

RARE:
slothful strike (52% dmg chaos)
premium vintage

NORMAL:
swift strike
auto reload
life affirmition
OTHER:
serrated point

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and lastly dark thirst

high island
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Yeah, take the boon.

tawdry tundra
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so much for just wanting to continue the run

high island
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I feel like making an imgur account or private server real quick would have been faster. courte5Ohno

chrome yoke
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KIlled him once, but the attack where he shoots those 3 beams got me.

high island
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You don't really have any boons that scale too well with poms except for your Call.

tawdry tundra
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i got dying lament

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common

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time for bone hydra

high island
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Dying Lament is really good for Satyr tunnels later.

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And early on in Tartarus.

tawdry tundra
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oh yeah

chrome yoke
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I probably would have won, but this is a pretty low-geared save

tawdry tundra
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done with hydra

high island
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Most people don't beat him first try. It might take a few attempts to get used to his attacks and maybe get a better build.

chrome yoke
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I had a really good build, a lot of deflect, damage and attack speed

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But yeah, killing him once/twice on the first try is a win in my book.

tawdry tundra
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i can just imagine zagreus just buffing up to twice his size whenever he dash attacks

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the battles are going by that fast right now

tawdry tundra
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hmm

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demeter or hammer

high island
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Hammer will show up again, take the boon.

tawdry tundra
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boon is there because of keepsake btw

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i hadnt used frostbitten horn yet

high island
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I'd still take the boon.

tawdry tundra
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ok

chrome yoke
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What? i just got a boon from a god ive never seen before

tawdry tundra
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killing freeze epic is here

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who?

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what does it look like

chrome yoke
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It seems to be Demeter

high island
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Lady Demeter doesn't show up until you make it to the surface for the first time.

tawdry tundra
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ah yeah

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well

high island
chrome yoke
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Ooh.. is Chill a good debuff?

tawdry tundra
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oooh hard choice

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dio or arte

high island
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Lady Artemis.

tawdry tundra
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ok

high island
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You wanna try to get Pressure Points here.

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And then if you see her again, you want Hunter's Mark.

chrome yoke
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What does chill do?

tawdry tundra
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just as you say that

high island
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Chill slows down enemies, stacks up to 10 times.

tawdry tundra
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epic flipping pressure points

high island
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Nice nice.

chrome yoke
high island
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Pressure Points by itself doesn't do too much, but it's still nice. It's when you have Hunter's Mark that it really shines.

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Yeah, Chill is decent for boss fights. Can throw your timing off if you're not used to it.

tawdry tundra
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hammer or pom

high island
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Probably the hammer here.

sly salmon
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when is hammer -not- a the top priority?

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o.o

tawdry tundra
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theres quick spin

high island
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Ideally a spin hammer, the others don't really matter. But it keeps showing up if you don't take it here, and the pom here doesn't have too much value, so you're not losing much.

tawdry tundra
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for easy debuffs

high island
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Nice nice.

tawdry tundra
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the rest are special upgrades anyway

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i have 158 coins no need for healing

sparkle aphro or shop

high island
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Always courte5AphroHeart.

tawdry tundra
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aphro is prob asterius but whatever

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guess not

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butterfly ball

high island
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If you dash on top of it and summon Meg, that'll take care of the armor immediately for a super fast kill.

hard pawn
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Ball before battie and after battie is such a funny difference

tawdry tundra
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not even a single elysium warrior thing managed to pick up a weapon

high island
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Nice nice. courte5AphroHeart courte5DusaBond

tawdry tundra
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i dont have companions yet

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crush shot or different league

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the other is special upgrade

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maybe i should pick up some defense now idk

hard pawn
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With battie butterfly ball is like a 3 second chamber very pog if ur bad w time

high island
hard pawn
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I'll give an example

sly salmon
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I just thought the buff to your weapon was always better than pretty much any boon you could want, yeah?

tawdry tundra
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crush shot or different leauge

hard pawn
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If you picked up flurry jab or serrated on achilles spear you don't really need another hammer if the other option is a boon that can be crucial to a duo, or a pre requisite

high island
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What's the third option?

tawdry tundra
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special

hard pawn
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Lol

tawdry tundra
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essentially void

high island
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I like Different League here.

tawdry tundra
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ok

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ooh theres an arte

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imagine if i get mark

high island
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You don't think it matters until you win a run with 0 DDs and 5 HP with Different League.

tawdry tundra
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ooh its thanatos

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free centaur heart

hard pawn
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I wish he would talk more in contests

tawdry tundra
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he lost 3 to 12

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noob

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jk

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hunters mark

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it may only be common

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but still

hard pawn
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What else have you got so far

tawdry tundra
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everything i would ever need for an absolutely bonkers dps

high island
hard pawn
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That could be a lot of things lol

tawdry tundra
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chaos 52% damage buff hunter dash 70% frost attack 96%

hard pawn
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Frost attack on hades? Oop

tawdry tundra
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to list a few

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and i have serrated

lavish gyro
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Is it just me or is the Orpheus solo of good riddance better then the Eurydice solo

tawdry tundra
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theres patroculus

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or aphro

hard pawn
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I prefer Eury's

high island
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courte5AphroHeart always.

tawdry tundra
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bruh ok

hard pawn
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Patty

lavish gyro
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Orpheus voice is just so amazing

tawdry tundra
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id have taken patroculus if i didnt still have all of my death defiance

hard pawn
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Don't listen to the obsessed worshipper over here for this one squirtdevious

high island
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Why would you take Patroclus over a boon from Lady Aphrodite? That makes no sense. She's the Goddess of Love and Beauty.

hard pawn
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Oh I forgot death defiance is a thing

chrome yoke
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am i the only one who thinks Eurydice's singing is absolutely wonderful?

hard pawn
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I think all the singing is wonderful

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In this game

tawdry tundra
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crush shot or wave of despair

chrome yoke
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The entire OST is pure gold.

tawdry tundra
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the other is special

hard pawn
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10/10 game

high island
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Wave of Despair.

tawdry tundra
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ok

hard pawn
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I did Em4 today and just dodged for a bit just to listen to unseen ones

tawdry tundra
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pom or coin

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pom i assume

hard pawn
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Not the same vibe when ur in the house

tawdry tundra
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i have 232 coins

chrome yoke
high island
tawdry tundra
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ill go pom

high island
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Yeah, grab the pom.

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Try to get a pom on Hunter's Mark.

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If not that, then Killing Freeze or Call.

hard pawn
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I would also join the temple had the secondary boons not been so niche

tawdry tundra
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pressure points dying lament or different leauge for pom

high island
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One of the courte5AphroHeart, of course.

hard pawn
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I would do pp

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Uhhh page not found

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Am I being hacked

high island
hard pawn
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There goes all my personal info

tawdry tundra
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im taking pp

hard pawn
tawdry tundra
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pom or shop

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i think its the final thing

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for elysium

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i have 226 coins

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and i need healing

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shop it is

high island
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Sounds good yeah.

tawdry tundra
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dio or pom

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i have enough for one

high island
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Boon.

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Strong Drink maybe.

tawdry tundra
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or do i save incase something goes wrong with theseus and kiss of styx saves it

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ill do boon then

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trippy shot or positive outlook

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i still dont have a cast

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upgrade i mean

high island
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Positive Outlook, I guess.

tawdry tundra
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ok

high island
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Take the Acorn in Styx. You should be fine even if you lose a DD here.

hard pawn
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You don't need to fill out every slot

tawdry tundra
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you sure i shouldnt take lucky tooth?

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i have it maxed

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acorn ive never used

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at styx i mean

hard pawn
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Lvl 1 acorn is kinda bad yee tooth might be better

void vigil
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@karmic prawn as nyaanyaa said, please repost your project in #self-promotion shadesmile

high island
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I'd say so. Even if just to level it up a bit.

tawdry tundra
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ok i guess

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going into champions now

chrome yoke
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How do i make orpheus sing

hard pawn
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Start w spin kite bool to the sides and jus chip him off while dodgin the darts

tawdry tundra
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bodied em

hard pawn
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Noice

high island
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Nice nice. You have the DPS.

tawdry tundra
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and i have positive outlook and different league

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for tankiness

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and like 288 max health

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ok now is the time

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acorn or tooth

high island
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Acorn.

tawdry tundra
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fine

chrome yoke
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I really love how i can customize the house of hades with gems and diamonds

hard pawn
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I miss no heat back when it was still fun

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All this high heat has made it feel too easy

hard pawn
chrome yoke
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Exactly!

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I love how i can make the literal god of deaths house purple and flowery

hard pawn
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Hehe and you a get a whole message from nyx when you put flowers to her corner

tawdry tundra
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styx shop

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two 300 poms

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arte 150

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centaur heart

high island
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What are the miniboss tunnels?

tawdry tundra
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and anvil

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arte and pom

high island
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And how much money do you have?

tawdry tundra
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368

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i did a couple non miniboss

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didnt take that much damage

high island
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Oh, do you have the sack yet?

tawdry tundra
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no

tawdry tundra
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theres one posidon non miniboss left

high island
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Hmm. Buy the HP now, then take the pom tunnel.

tawdry tundra
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buy centaur heart?

high island
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That's a double pom.

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Yeah.

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And then buy another double pom after the tunnel.

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I think ideally you just get poms on your Call now.

chrome yoke
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New enemies, wriglers have shown up. Is this because i reached Hades?

high island
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Wringers. Yeah, I think that's the trigger.

tawdry tundra
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pom was sack

high island
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Nice. Then just buy another pom and go fight dad.

tawdry tundra
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hunter dash positive outlook or different leauge

high island
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Dash.

tawdry tundra
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ok

high island
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Poms on the damage reduction boons are almost never worth it.

tawdry tundra
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posidons aid positive outlook pressure points

high island
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Aid.

tawdry tundra
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ok

karmic prawn
tawdry tundra
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its time

high island
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Should be GGs.

chrome yoke
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I like how Zagreus says that Demeter has shown him great warmth when you first gift her

high island
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You could probably just out-DPS him at this point.

tawdry tundra
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well yeah

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but would that be any fun

high island
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Probably. courte5DusaBond

karmic hare
tawdry tundra
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gg

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i tanked the full phase 2 laser circle

high island
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She's the Goddess of the Seasons, after all, not only the Goddess of Winter.

high island
tawdry tundra
#

well

#

i didnt

high island
#

Yeah, I was just saying.

#

GGs. courte5DusaBond

tawdry tundra
#

its in victory boasting now

karmic hare
high island
#

"...Over time, mortals have come to fear great Demeter, eldest of Olympians, goddess of seasons, bringer of plenty, and taker-away of it."

#

First sentence in her codex entry.

tawdry tundra
#

best part about the run?

#

i screenrecorded the entire hades fight

karmic hare
#

That's kind of cool that they changed what the gods are gods of for having Persephone gone.

hard pawn
#

If hades mythology was like greek mythology a lot would change lol

karmic hare
#

Yeah lol

glossy remnant
#

:/

#

got the soundtrach because I love it

#

isn't playing.

#

On steam

#

._.

high island
#

@glossy remnant might wanna ask for help with that in #h1-tech-support. Also if you contact them through their website, they can send you the audio files (even in FLAC for lossless audio). https://www.supergiantgames.com/contact/

glossy remnant
#

I guess, thx :)

#

I can play them localy

#

but the steam audio player doesn't like them

lethal dawn
#

i just beat the challenge in erebus for the first time, i was sooo stressed 😭😭

chrome yoke
#

ay!

#

First legendary boon on this file

sick ridge
#

If I restart my run with a different weapon and pick the exact same rooms will everything be the same in Tartarus?

#

The boon choices

#

Same heat

#

Same mirror

#

Same keepsake

strong vessel
#

It won't. It's random each game

south lagoon
#

if you're just hitting Give Up i don't think that resets the rng does it?

chrome yoke
#

Am i the only one who thinks that the bow is really hard to use?

modern garnet
#

I think it's the hardest to learn

brisk trail
high island
chrome yoke
#
  1. How do i get the autograph from Asterius
  2. How do i make orpheus sing
signal aspen
#

And I forgot how to get orpheus to sing, just talk to him and give him nectar

high island
#

Talk to everyone and give them Nectar is how most of these issues are resolved.

chrome wharf
keen lichen
#

can heroic replacements be offered twice+?
i mean, i already swapped an epic dash for a heroic one.
can it happen again with other core skills like attack etc?

chrome yoke
chrome wharf
#

for bow it depends on the person, it seems like

#

I was getting walled by champions until I switched to bow and got to dad on my second try

signal aspen
#

And yeah the miniboss room counts

signal aspen
chrome yoke
signal aspen
#

By final boss I mean the final fight in elysium

chrome yoke
#

Oh yeah

signal aspen
#

And idk if you have to die to them in a certain order

chrome yoke
#

yknow what ima just google it

keen lichen
signal aspen
#

Bruh

chrome wharf
#

tfw you have all priority slots... and rare crop picks divine dash

high island
#

Ah yes, the rare common crop.

rapid forum
#

at least your dash now deals 30 damage

#

kek

chrome wharf
#

*22

signal aspen
#

Even better

rapid forum
#

still worth

chrome wharf
#

one shotting dem mice

stable glen
#

Dionysus be like: No duo boons for u lol

#

Me: rerolls

#

Dionysus:

#

I honestly don't know what's better

#

I'm thinking splitting headache for the crits

#

Epic deadly flourish and a hunter's mark which will be upgraded to heroic by demeter

#

And that was the right choice!

#

Cuz I got low tol from the shop

stable glen
#

F

#

OH BIG F

high island
# stable glen I honestly don't know what's better

Is that Chiron? This is an odd one because Hangover is on Dash here. Low Tolerance is generally the best pick if you can quickly get 8 stacks, but your Hangover tic damage is so low, Splitting Headache is probably the only one that makes sense because it's global.

stable glen
#

I'm in it for the crits

high island
#

But just in terms of Hangover damage itself, Low Tolerance is the best one. The other two are more for when you already have Low Tolerance or when you only have something like Drunken Dash with no poms on it.

stable glen
#

now I'm trying to get heart rend

#

ihttps://media.discordapp.net/attachments/527247562160209940/865783620122705960/unknown.png?width=1191&height=670

#

Nothing better than this

river vigil
#

still usin chiron?

stable glen
#

Nah

#

achillies

#

I hate witches

#

in erebus so much

#

the AI

#

makes them just hide from you

river vigil
#

lmao yeah

stable glen
#

Screwed up a zeus erebus

#

wtf

#

It's so dumb

#

it's aight I restarted and got it this time

stable glen
#

Hey guys

#

how do charon fights work

#

as in, where don you go after you win

granite ether
#

you go to the next room

stable glen
#

There's two choices

#

life, or zeus

#

I need a zeus boon

#

but loyalty cards are nice

#

idk what to do

#

Zeus can offer me his legendary or sea storm and I'll gladly take both

worldly narwhal
#

bruh why is charon so hard

calm pollen
#

If I complete Skelly’s request ||is he gone forever||?

granite ether
#

skelly is gone forever. ||nope, skelly will come back||

south lagoon
#

||well, you know what they say. there is no escape||

calm pollen
#

||That’s a relief lol would’ve missed the guy. Thanks a bunch of the answer!||

idle wind
#

So I was at 2/3 death defiances.. used the athena boon to replenish back to 3/3 and got offered Kiss of Styx from a well in the same room I got the boon. If I pick it will I go 4/3 death defiances or will it take my 200 gold with no effect?

modern garnet
#

It won't give you 4

#

It might not let you buy it, or it'll just burn your money

idle wind
#

figured.. im morbidly curious if itll take my money or not monkaStop

high island
#

You can't buy it.

south lagoon
#

i have the Heart of Stone boon from Bouldy that gives me extra % obol, will that also apply to Side Hustle if i get that

#

hang on

#

it's +6% and the Hustle option is common +10 per chamber so i guess it doesn't rly make a big difference either way

kind dust
#

...bouldy gives you BOONS??

modern garnet
#

Once you unlock the option to give him nectar yeah

calm pollen
#

I’ve been giving him nectar all this time and never realized it did anything shadefear

manic bobcat
#

Sometimes it doesn't

south lagoon
#

does it vary at all? i think it said 6 for me

stable glen
#

idk

#

maybe I'm dumb

#

I'm like 5k darkness away from the infinite theme

#

final one

south lagoon
#

wiki says it goes from 1-7%

#

also that's awesome good luck

stable glen
#

ty

#

This game feels amazing on controller

#

Switch pro is so underrated for PC

#

I bought it for switch ages ago but I use it on PC now

#

Weird thing is, around the home button, there's a blue light that only lights up when establishing a blue tooth connection to something like a PC, you never see this from normal switch use

#

but I don't think nintendo every mentioned that it works on PC

#

Oh nvm, it got a use on switch in firmware version 9

stable glen
#

Splitting headache?

#

not using hangover for the dmg here

thorn marsh
#

what are u playing rn?

high island
#

Yeah, probably.

stable glen
#

Nyaanyaa I saw your recent victory on guan yu and that's your hell mode file, right?

#

how many clears do you have on your main?

#

GOD

#

EVERY DAMN TIME

#

I TRY TO RUN NEMESIS OR DEMETER

#

AND I GO "THIS TIME I WON'T RUN MERCIFUL END"

#

AND ARES AND ATHENA HAVE TO SHOW UP IN TARTARUS TO RUB IT IN

hard pawn
#

Lol

high island
stable glen
high island
#

1,706 escape attempts.

#

A bunch of them are resets for speedruns, though.

soft echo
#

Finally beat EM4 today. Aspect of Nemesis + Merciful End 😌

stable glen
#

Nice!

median fox
#

hey while i was watching made in abyss i noticed that in a few episode the environments in the show like the second layer and the goblet of giants area look a lot like asphodel and elysium was hades inspired by some of the environments maybe or was the show inspired by some places described in mythology?? (do tell if this isnt the place to ask these types of questions)

desert juniper
#

does chaos boon affect shackle?

karmic hare
#

Which boon

#

Oh wait

#

No if you have a chaos boon you will still get the shackle benefits

desert juniper
#

alright nice, thanks

little ridge
#

Is it on ps4 yet ?

cerulean ferry
#

Nope, August 13th

floral ledge
#

yoyoyooooooo

#

I just beat all the harsh conditions and got a juicy 25 units of blood

#

IDK where to spend so general advice would be good

#

Right now I'm wondering between

#
  1. Get another hidden aspect up to max, as I only have 2 currently unlocked.
#
  1. Get Chiron's bow because I wanted to play a right click build with seeker arrows
#
  1. Get new fists because I currently have Zag's and, while dodge is cool, I kinda miss damage a lot
rapid forum
#

max your main?

floral ledge
#

main?

#

what do you mean

rapid forum
#

like the weapon that you will indefinitely use the most?

floral ledge
#

right now I use the weapon with the back hue that grants +20% rewards

#

Might grab a main later when I start a fair heat level and have enough darkness to fill at least 1 side of the mirror

rapid forum
#

ah well, then I guess unlock other aspect first

#

prob fist

#

demeter fist is fun

floral ledge
#

tyty

floral ledge
#

does pom blossom work at all rooms of the satyr lair, or just the final one of each tunnel?

raw herald
#

All rooms, however the plume and butterfly just work on the last chamber of each tunnel

floral ledge
#

ahh well then I'm keeping the pom 😄

#

ty

mellow vale
#

heya! (hopefully this is the right channel for this!) I was wondering if Supergiant and Darren Korb specifically allows people to use the music from their games in for example twitch streams and youtube videos?

calm pelican
#

woooooo finally cleared 32 heat

river vigil
#

nice congrats

hard pawn
#

Ooh what did you do it with

calm pelican
#

aspect of chiron

hard pawn
#

I wanna try do some high heat with chiron too a lot people speak highly of it

calm pelican
#

got artemis's special atk bonus to heroic and some other crit based boons

#

its the easiest to use for me XD

hard pawn
#

I'm trying to decide whether to do 40 with chiron or rama

stoic flame
#

its kinda slow in rooms but its good fofr bosses

calm pelican
#

but chiron is slow

stoic flame
#

atleast for me

calm pelican
#

yeah

#

i cant do 5 mins

#

i can barely make it out of tartatrus

stoic flame
#

i barely make 7 mins

calm pelican
#

had to go with 7 mins

stoic flame
hard pawn
#

Dam

floral ledge
#

Is it better to start investing in the other side of the mirror before grabbing the last buff?

#

4k is quite a hefty sum

#

actually scratch that I can always respec ifI get spare 4k

hard pawn
#

Golden touch isn't good

#

And high confidence is only for speedrunning

floral ledge
#

Golden touch is buying me a lot of diamonds and titan blood at the end of my runs

hard pawn
#

Gwt the final roll

floral ledge
#

I am still doing heat ~5

#

so no real need for shops

hard pawn
#

I don't understand

#

Shops are good in any heat

#

Golden touch is not good lol

#

Max out fated persuasion

#

Rolls are pog

floral ledge
#

golden touch is giving me around 500 gold at the end of each run

#

I reach styx with 1200g if I hit about 3-4 shops along the way

#

and I don't need shops to beat the game this early

#

I mean, what's the alternative?

#

150g at start?

hard pawn
#

I don't rlly understand your grudge against shops

#

You're the first person I've seen who uses golden touch lol

floral ledge
#

if I save money until the end I get to buy an extra blood/diamond

hard pawn
#

Thats a big waste of time

#

Using different weapons

thorn marsh
#

ur actively hurting ur runs by not shopping until styx imo

hard pawn
#

And going up 1 heat at a time

#

Will renew boss rewards

thorn marsh
#

it lowers ur chance of getting good boons from the shop

#

avoiding the hermes and stuff is bad for ur runs

floral ledge
#

but I win most of my runs? Even the ones where I get trash

hard pawn
#

If you are keen to not use money turn up convenience fee pact to renew ur boss rewards like 3 times for each weapon you use and you will spend x10 less time grinding styx for one single boss reward

thorn marsh
#

taking golden touch is going to get worse and worse the more heat u add

floral ledge
#

the point is since I don't need gold yet, I don't see a point to not grab the free expensive stuff

hard pawn
#

We are telling you why lol

void vigil
# mellow vale heya! (hopefully this is the right channel for this!) I was wondering if Supergi...

the lets play policy on their blog might have the answer youre looking for. otherwise, you can contact them directly: https://www.supergiantgames.com/blog/policy-on-lets-play-videos/ https://www.supergiantgames.com/contact/

hard pawn
#

Idrk what your point is? Is this a flex or do you just want to limit yourself for no reason

#

If you want to make the game harder in terms of money and get boss rewards at a way faster rate simply turn on convenience fee

floral ledge
#

no, I just don't get your point

hard pawn
#

Do you know what the pact of punishment does

floral ledge
#

turning up convenience fee has nothing to do with optimizing gold gain for faster clear

thorn marsh
#

ur basically debuffing urself for no reason by taking golden touch

hard pawn
#

If you want faster clears you should not be grinding for weapons currencies and using that gold for sweet sweet boons :)

floral ledge
#

When I say faster clears I mean I want to unlock the weapons faster

hard pawn
#

If you use the pact of punishment every 1 heat you go up will refresh the 2 titan blood, ambrosia and diamond

#

You get

floral ledge
#

yes

hard pawn
#

So instead of having to grind money to styx for a singular diamond or blood

floral ledge
#

but I'm getting 3 bloods when I buy the one at styx

hard pawn
#

You can increase your heat if you find the game so easy :) and get all the rewards you sought to upgrade your weapons

thorn marsh
#

by the time u finish grinding for that One blood u could be in another run already

floral ledge
#

what does it have to do with anything that I grab the buff that yields less gold at the end

floral ledge
#

I'm always bumping heat up on clear

hard pawn
#

you said ~5

floral ledge
#

yes I did

hard pawn
#

So I assumed u stopped at that lol

floral ledge
#

I started like 1 or 2 weeks ago

hard pawn
#

Hades or this blood grind

floral ledge
#

Hades

#

bought the game during the sale

hard pawn
#

cool but hows that related

floral ledge
#

Well I'm doing ~5 because I play all weapons and managed to get them all there

hard pawn
#

Great

#

Whats your average clear time

#

Since you use all weapons ig

floral ledge
#

how may I know

hard pawn
#

The clear screen has your PBs

floral ledge
#

I guess around 30 minutes

hard pawn
#

And I am pretty sure u can see them in the house in the shade's office

#

30 minutes can be cut down by half if you use shops

floral ledge
#

I spend a lot of time idling when I tab out to google stuff

hard pawn
#

That pasues the timer

#

Pauses*

floral ledge
#

oh i see

thorn marsh
#

shopu

#

doesnt pause the timer

hard pawn
#

Tabbing out

thorn marsh
#

o h

hard pawn
#

Lol

#

Anyway you can cut down from 30 minutes by A LOT if you use shops early game to get good duo boons or limitting god keepsakes to a minimum

#

You'll be getting sub 20 and sub 15s quite easily with practice

thorn marsh
#

sub 10 enters the scene

hard pawn
#

Lol

#

Managed to max nemmy today and will try to get 32 w it done

#

I want to do 32 w each weapon just for the clear screen aesthetic lol then once 50 achilles is done move them all to 40

river vigil
thorn marsh
#

sub 9 slowly follows

hard pawn
#

Oh local hera player of the bow, is hera like achilles

#

👀

thorn marsh
#

wdym?

#

ur asking me about my 2 favorite weapons here

hard pawn
#

Cast wise is it similar to running achilles or smth more like beo

thorn marsh
#

uh

#

hera is just a worse beo

hard pawn
#

Ok pog

river vigil
#

beo but with range

thorn marsh
#

@river vigil U FORGOT ABOUT CHARGED SHOT P

hard pawn
#

So no latch casts gud or latch casts gud

thorn marsh
#

latch casts gud

river vigil
hard pawn
#

So not like achilles

raw herald
#

Hera good Beowulf good

river vigil
#

achilles relies on you doing your special first to get the bonus damage

hard pawn
#

Yes beo gud

#

Gonna do 32 beo after nemym

river vigil
#

for hera you just get loaded

hard pawn
#

I am achilles main ik lol

river vigil
thorn marsh
raw herald
#

I kinda play every aspect

#

To a decent level

thorn marsh
hard pawn
#

lol

#

Flex

thorn marsh
#

i just cannot play fists

#

i got my 9:02 on them and just never touched them again LOL

hard pawn
#

I tried speedrun yesterday on achilles got 11:something and got bored

raw herald
#

I can't play Hades spear, Lucifer, Arthur or talos

hard pawn
#

Heat is more fun than speedrunnin for me

#

I wonder if i should do 45 before 50

raw herald
#

Heat is less RNG reliant, although it still plays a huge factor

raw herald
#

I did 45 before 50, and that jump allowed me to beat 50 without much issue

hard pawn
#

I'll try it

raw herald
#

At 45 you can avoid RI

hard pawn
#

I kinda wanna take on RI as practice for no EM4 50

#

But achilles without roles

raw herald
#

What weapon?

#

Ah

hard pawn
#

Rolls&

#

Is too rng based

#

For my time

raw herald
#

Achilles is probably tough for 50 heat

thorn marsh
#

achilles without rolls is just a c o p e

raw herald
#

I'd do Hestia or beowulf

hard pawn
#

I got to styx with achilles the other day

thorn marsh
hard pawn
#

Serrated and flurry ye

#

I am fine w either

raw herald
#

So not doing a cast build then

hard pawn
#

Achilles hammers are the same whether its cast or not

raw herald
#

Hestia is great because there are 4 attack boons that are solid, so AP2 isn't that bad

hard pawn
#

U still flurry over serrated

#

And serrated if no flurry for cast or no cast

raw herald
#

I'm always flurry over serrated

hard pawn
#

Its objectively better yeah

#

Lol

raw herald
#

Safer, more damage

hard pawn
#

Anyway

raw herald
#

What more could you want

thorn marsh
#

flurry is just better

hard pawn
#

I wont be using another weapon

#

Because my purpose is not doing 50 heat its doing 50 heat with achilles

raw herald
#

Fair enough

hard pawn
#

Or else I would just run beo or rama

#

And make my life a lot easier lol

raw herald
#

I think I've only beaten 40+ with about 3 aspects

thorn marsh
#

ok something really random

#

achilles looks like two bananas at its tip

#

aka its a banana spear

hard pawn
#

I think its supposed to be a harp without strings

thorn marsh
#

definitely intended to look a banana

#

its curved seraph CURVED

hard pawn
#

I'm in denial

#

I wish transmog existed lol I think hades spear is prettier

river vigil
#

if only hades aspect spin damage is bigger i would do a true dad spin build with it

thorn marsh
#

u could reset for massive spin

hard pawn
#

I mean with massive spin is really big dude

#

Like really really big

#

I wanna learn it too after watching tail use it

river vigil
#

might use it once in a while

floral ledge
#

the hell I just got 20% off charon's shop

#

IYKWIM

#

maybe it wasn't such a bad idea

hard pawn
#

And a fun boss fight

floral ledge
#

yeah I never had this event

#

first shop I get it

#

GG

#

@hard pawn this is as fast as I can humanly go right now

#

with shops and skipping as much as I can

#

I swear I can't do it faster at this moment

#

hands and brain say this is it

hard pawn
#

Maybe zag bow isn't for you

#

Rama is very strong

#

You could use that instead

#

Also bow is not a very fast weapon neither is rama

#

If you want to be quick the likes of shield, rail and spear woukd work better

floral ledge
#

i tried to hit artemis + aphro combo, but since I have the boon reroll thing instead of room reroll I had to pick ares and poseidon without alternatives

hard pawn
#

I've never used zag bow before. I assume it is similar to rama tho in terms of build

#

So maybe focus less on cast

floral ledge
#

all it has is default 15% crit

high island
#

Hera is very fast with a good build, and very consistent at that.

floral ledge
#

so it's kinda asking for artemis

high island
#

Zag Bow is just spam Dash-Strike Power Shots if you want speed.

hard pawn
#

So like rama

high island
#

Not quite. Rama would start Thunder Flourish for Tartarus.

hard pawn
#

I thought that was bad for rama

#

I remembr haelian saying it had a cooldown for lightning strikes no?

#

Or did that get changed since then

high island
#

Deadly Strike + Passion Dash for Heart Rend, get any Strike and Lunge you can from Master Chaos. Get Hunter's Mark and put poms on it.

#

Twin, Triple, and Flurry Shot are all amazing. Perfect Shots is great, too.

#

Thunder Flourish has a cooldown, yes. It still shreds Tartarus, though.

floral ledge
orchid elm
#

nice

floral ledge
#

pity I didn't have artemis dash or the power shot enhancer, I wanted to see how far I could push that

#

but in any case, I believe I prefer other bows. Won't know for now though, because I don't have enough blood

high island
#

Zag Bow is decent for practicing bow fundamentals. But once you can actually consistently time every Power Shot, it's pretty bland.

#

My arm tires out really fast playing Zag Bow.

orchid elm
#

Question: why are hermes boons different than all of the other gods? he has no duo boons, no call, no cast...

#

was he added later in the game?

high island
#

No core boons, either.

floral ledge
#

I believe hermes is there to provide unique boons

orchid elm
#

idk what a core boon is yet but sure, those neither

floral ledge
#

all related with moving, dashing and dodging

#

or doing stuff faster in general

#

it's like the hammer

orchid elm
#

Yes of course, but you'd think there'd be a call to make you run really fast or something...

floral ledge
#

doesn't follow in line with the rest of your kit

high island
#

I dunno, I guess that's what made the most sense to the devs.

orchid elm
#

Dont get me wrong, i really like most of the boons he has

floral ledge
#

IMO it would be great if he had legendary core boons as something unique, meaning you can't get standard versions of them but something like attacking the same target grants stacks of attack speed.

high island
#

He has Second Wind, which activates when you use your Call.

orchid elm
#

+X dash, move speed, hold to rapid cast, those are all super nice

floral ledge
#

but IDK I feel like the game is decent as it is right now

orchid elm
#

Yeah i agree. I just found it a bit weird

floral ledge
#

I wouldn't want hermes to change, but I would really like expansions with more gods that you can toggle on/off, where you get a new character and unlock a new aspect for them

hard pawn
#

There probably won't be an expansion

orchid elm
#

idk, i think the game is good as-is, no need for more

floral ledge
#

and maybe new gods, like Helios that makes your attacks blind enemies making them slower

hard pawn
#

Chill exists

floral ledge
#

and the call would be a sun beam that chases enemies

#

ah true

#

well something else maybe, IDK

hard pawn
#

I believe no super giant game has ever received expansion dlc content

floral ledge
#

I would really appreciate an optional expansion with a little more content as long as it makes sense

#

yeah but no supergiant game has been a roguelite either

hard pawn
#

And that they didn't directly say no dlc but its for the best we have our expectations to be that there won't be one

floral ledge
#

Bastion and Transistor at least were all about the story, the only replayability was ng+ IIRC, and there wasn't much to do aside from that

hard pawn
#

I wouldn't know

floral ledge
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don't get me wrong, I don't expect DLC, nor do I demand it. The game is fine as-is, but I find it so much fun I would really enjoy DLC

hard pawn
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One can hope

floral ledge
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so, if I already got the god I want on tartarus, should I still grab their keepsake for asphodel?

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at this point I could go either sigil to push it to 3, or I guess grab butterfly for the reminder of the run?

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I'm running nemesis and already got aphro and artemis

high island
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courte5EternalRose and get Heart Rend.

hard pawn
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Sigil is good for time

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I generally tend to do tart and asph as god keepsakes

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Ans then acorn or tooth for the remainder depending on the heat

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With acorn you could just melt down normal theseus fight in like 10 seconds

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W no health lost

midnight mesa
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hey guys i have a doubt, i want buy hades but i dont know if i wait for a promo or just buy now

floral ledge
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discounts are minimal, so if you want it I suggest you get it now

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unless you really mind like 5 euros

void vigil
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it was on a 30% discount during the summer sale, and the next big steam sale is the halloween sale i think which is in about 15 weeks

midnight mesa
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5 euros for me is 25 real btw

void vigil
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but its a game you can get many hours out of, i personally have 365 hours on it just on steam

glossy remnant
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Eh

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Just spent 5 diamonds. What the dog gate doing?

mint coral
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Erebus gates?
No hit rooms and the reward is better than a normal one (hearts are +50hp, boons have better rarity, etc)

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Get hit and you get an onion

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Also they need 5, 10 and 15 heat depending on biome

glossy remnant
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yee thx

chrome yoke
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Wait, how do i get more than like 5 diamonds? (asphodel with every weapon)

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excluding trading

hard pawn
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Every 1 unit of heat for every weapon resets boss rewards until 20 heat

chrome yoke
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so.. thats 20 diamonds? for each weapon or not?

mint coral
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Yup, also sometimes charon shop in styx has a diamond
And some prophecies

chrome yoke
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so.. 100 diamonds? + prophecies + charon

teal isle
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So a friend of mine recently started playing Hades, and he got up to the surface.

He lost to Hades,but he was like "oh my God I was so close I got him down to five hit points! I almost won!"

and I didn't have the heart to tell him that was just the first phase.

hard pawn
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  • prophecy
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Yep

shadow kernel
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I beat the game with only dashes

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But I didn’t get wave pounding or extra dashes from Hermes so dad was pain

chrome yoke
chrome yoke
shadow kernel
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Buy epic songs

high island
chrome yoke
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Of course, 126 diamonds total

chrome yoke
chrome yoke
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Yeah someone already said that

high island
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You also get Diamonds for some prophecies.

dense mist
modern garnet
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Oh yeah I've seen that happen

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He's gonna have to go all the way back to the arena to get it back, how embarrassing

dense mist
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i would love to take it with me

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looks so nice

hard pawn
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Its a second secret aspect for varatha

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Special focused

dense mist
cloud tusk
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Hey folks - I haven't checked in for a bit but I'm curious if there's been any info on what SGG is tackling next? I know they took a break to reorient themselves, but was dlc mentioned after or working on something new?

void vigil
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just what is in the faq, nothing new

midnight mesa
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hey guys

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spear or shield?

high island
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Yes.

midnight mesa
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ok

dense mist
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is there a way to take no blessings at all?

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like all 3 options replace crucial elements of my kit

high island
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No.

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If you have Fated Persuasion, you can reroll.

dense mist
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well sadly not but one was okay to give away i guess

high island
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Was it Lady Artemis who offered the three exchanges?

dense mist
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No aphrodite

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So now to hades with zero revives, no life steal and half hp

high island
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I see. Well, in that case, you should be grateful. Lady Aphrodite's boons are the bestest. courte5AphroHeart courte5DusaBond

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Lady Artemis has a very small tier-1 boon pool, so if you have all your core boons filled and none are from her, you're very likely to see a lot of exchanges from her.

chrome yoke
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I dont like aphrodite anymore

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Damage reduction is not that beneficial to me

high island
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Best status curse in the game.

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She has the highest % damage, too, and the highest base damage Cast that lodges.

chrome yoke
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Hm

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Talking about lasting status effects, yes

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But for curses boons can afflict its probably doom

high island
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Doom does damage and nothing else. Any boon that applies Weak also does a lot of damage.

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Anyway, Weak and Life Affirmation alone can carry high heat runs.

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You have the damage and all the eHP you could need.

chrome yoke
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Whats life affirmatiom?

signal aspen
chrome yoke
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Oh yeah i got that once

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It was cool

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My favorite boon is probably the one that makes fountains restore full health because of styx

high island
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There's no healing at high heat except from Stubborn Defiance and from any max HP rewards you pick up.

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So, Strong Drink loses a lot of value.