I would say take the rare, and yes you have to attack for the deflect to activate.
#h1-discussion
teal belfry
signal aspen
Its pretty good
chrome yoke
Whats divine dash
signal aspen
Athena dash
stable glen
Whats divine dash
athena deflect dash
chrome yoke
Ahah
teal belfry
So going into enemies and attacking, and then hitting the special.
chrome yoke
What does it do again?
stable glen
So going into enemies and attacking, and then hitting the special.
My question is
do you actually need to "deflect"
signal aspen
What does it do again?
Deflect stuff
stable glen
or hit them with an athena ability
signal aspen
do you actually need to "deflect"
No
stable glen
okay thank you
teal belfry
Yeah no problem.
teal belfry
It can with some duos, I think.
chrome yoke
Doom my beloved
stable glen
Cuz dire misfortune says "your doom effects deal more damage when applied multiple times"
river vigil
do you actually need to "deflect"
no you dont
signal aspen
With that boon every time you hit an enemy that already has doom on them with an attack that applies doom, damage is added to the doom
teal belfry
So it does stack then.
stable glen
Hm, does the buff desc say anything?
"bonus damage per stack" requires curse of agony or curse of pain
teal belfry
So yeah, stacks.
chrome yoke
Doom does a lot of damage very quickly. Ares has my favorite boons 💯
teal belfry
Ares is fun.
chrome yoke
I main Ares at this point ahah
teal belfry
Honestly understandable. His boons can be loads of fun to mess around with.
high onyx
I beat dad and died in Greece. Does that mean that I complete the game
teal belfry
That means you completed one run, yes.
stable glen
I beat dad and died in Greece. Does that mean that I complete the game
"beating the game" is 10 wins
high onyx
I can just rerun? Thats unfunny
teal belfry
Yeah, you rerun.
stable glen
I can just rerun? Thats unfunny
Well, yes, it's a rougelike
high onyx
Waaaah
teal belfry
Yeah.
fleet folio
Ares is good, but I don't really aim for his boons, I just take them if they show up
stable glen
aphro's % boons go crazy high and zeus' bonus boons just stack and stack, also got one of the best legendarys
teal belfry
I don't really main anyone, it's really dependent on a few things.
stable glen
artemis is great too
teal belfry
Arty is super fun.
stable glen
I don't really use dionysus except his heal boons and tripy shot
fleet folio
I love Aphro boons, they're great
teal belfry
Hangover effect is just fun with doom.
high onyx
wo spoilers, but, when I will win 10 times, am I gonna stay In Greece or im forever with my dad
fleet folio
My favourites are probably Dionysus, Hermes and Poseidon, depending on what I'm going for
signal aspen
wo spoilers, but, when I will win 10 times, am I gonna stay In Greece or im fore...
You stay in the underworld
teal belfry
Yeah.
teal belfry
What.
signal aspen
You are bound to the underworld
teal belfry
I'm—
signal aspen
Ok
teal belfry
Ok then.
fleet folio
That's just how roguelikes work in general, they're not for everyone
native field
Finally another final boss fishing spot
chrome yoke
Deleting the game
Not all games have happy endings
native field
Hopefully I dont mess up
teal belfry
Fishing spots are always fun.
signal aspen
I don't even take them anymore
stable glen
wo spoilers, but, when I will win 10 times, am I gonna stay In Greece or im fore...
the story progresses, but don't get your hopes up as Zag can't survive outside the underworld for long
teal belfry
I think I have my fish codex filled.
signal aspen
Nice
teal belfry
Or I'm missing one or two.
stable glen
I think this game does have a happy ending
stable glen
maybe gods can help him
Keep playing
native field
I think I have my fish codex filled.
I mean. I do it for the resources
It is more resources
teal belfry
Yeah.
chrome yoke
It was kinda spoiled to me by the steam achievement name
"is there no escape?"
- clear an escape attempt -
signal aspen
Nice
signal aspen
Second wind
fleet folio
There's a lot of replayability, and the gameplay doesn't stay the same. There's a lot of things you can explore and try, even if the environment is the same.
teal belfry
I would say Second Wind.
fleet folio
Second Wind, yeah.
native field
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/527247562160209940/864289848779866152/unk...
if you arent a weird non attacking thing
I like attack sped
stable glen
Pretty sure lovely is based off aphro and woodland is artemis
teal belfry
There's a lot of replayability, and the gameplay doesn't stay the same. There's ...
Exactly. It's different but with the same goal.
stable glen
and I think there's a eurydice one too
stable glen
There's a lot of replayability, and the gameplay doesn't stay the same. There's ...
My only gripe with this game is how little areas there are
I was spoiled by dead cells
but the different builds you can get keep things interesting
signal aspen
I've been having a lot of fun playing high heat
That's one of my favorite parts of the game
stable glen
teal belfry
I try for speedruns, but I want to get into high heat too.
teal belfry
Oh wow, that's good luck.
signal aspen
Nice
fleet folio
That is really good luck.
signal aspen
If only I could get that
signal aspen
Deadly reversal
teal belfry
Deadly Reversal IMO.
river vigil
reversal
stable glen
is it that good?
signal aspen
Yeah
stable glen
I always thought two 2nds after deflect was short as I deflect mid dash but aight
let's do it
signal aspen
It's the second duo boon you want after getting ME
river vigil
yeah with athena dash its amazing
signal aspen
Nice
river vigil
noice
thorn marsh
R O D
stable glen
I'll get hunter's mark later
chrome yoke
i have to use imgur to send images right
river vigil
ye
stable glen
honestly, I think next time I'ma try ares special athena attack
thorn marsh
for fists?
signal aspen
Why
stable glen
I think it would be easier to mass apply the doom and then just dash into everything or phalanx
phalanx hitbox chonky
teal belfry
No harm in trying.
stable glen
we'll see how that goes
thorn marsh
only zeus can do doom on special imo
signal aspen
Yeah
stable glen
only zeus can do doom on special imo
Ooh that's a good idea
teal belfry
we'll see how that goes
Good luck with it.
stable glen
ME zeus sheild?
signal aspen
Yeah zeus is good with ME
thorn marsh
yeah it works well with doom on special
its the only weapon that can really do doom on special imo
stable glen
its the only weapon that can really do doom on special imo
what about spear?
thorn marsh
nah
signal aspen
It's better to skip bow special on anything other than rama and chiron
thorn marsh
way better builds for bow than doom on special
chiron does way more damage with sea storm
thorn marsh
rama its decent but kinda mediocre at best
signal aspen
Yeah
stable glen
got the two really good chiron hammers, the extra arrows and extra damage for consecutive arrows
I don't like rama
teal belfry
rama its *decent* but kinda mediocre at best
I remember when I first played Rama, I cleared with it like 4 times in a row. I really like Rama.
signal aspen
Rama is really good
teal belfry
Yeah.
thorn marsh
hera
teal belfry
Last time I checked, it's good for high heat clears too.
signal aspen
Yeah
chrome yoke
What does casting do without any cast buffs
thorn marsh
just a regular base cast
void vigil
50 damage
teal belfry
I thought it was 75?
chrome yoke
ah
void vigil
also it staggers enemies, which is helpful
thorn marsh
lies
thorn marsh
literally everybody uses poseidon
teal belfry
Poseidon is wonderful to play with.
thorn marsh
hes just a straight solid god
fleet folio
Poseidon is great, yeah.
stable glen
Really? I've seen him in like the lower levels of tier lists on yt
thorn marsh
u could ask a million people and unless they just have it out for poseidon they will like him
void vigil
People here sing the praises of poseidon dash, and his call is solid
stable glen
his dash is goated
signal aspen
Splash dash is epic
stable glen
zeus dash is 2nd best if you can get more zeus boons, if you get his legendary might be even better
fleet folio
The more I play, the more I like Poseidon.
void vigil
Also good for resource runs
Also, I wouldn’t use youtube tierlists, because of how subjective these things can be
thorn marsh
one yt tier list said doom wasnt good on fists, they clearly didnt know about the godly duo boon ME
stable glen
poseidon, ares, and artemis increase in power exponentially based on how many bonus boons you can get from em
I'd say aphro too, but apart from sweet surrender, the rest don't really do that much
thorn marsh
aphro has blown kiss
signal aspen
Her legendary is good
stable glen
blown kiss is decent
but it only really does anything for one specific boon
and personally, not a fan of crush shot
heart rend is also a top tier duo
thorn marsh
eh only on certain weapons imo
void vigil
I pretty much built around it when I played chiron
But honestly zag bow is much easier to play
stable glen
got the epic hunters mark
stable glen
eh only on certain weapons imo
it's pretty good on chiron with artemis special and nemesis attack
thorn marsh
it's pretty good on chiron with artemis special and nemesis attack
those are the certain weapons yeah
stable glen
hmmmm
Thinking curse of vengence
and pray for the zeus ares duo in styx
okay gamers
here's the plan for the next run
we go zeus sheild
ares special
athena attack
and as it applies
the doom
we smack em with the sheild
immediatley
If I'm being honest, it wasn't that good on sword
I wouldn't be able to get the thrust combo in cuz I'd need to apply ME right after
thorn marsh
ur not suppose to regular attack on sword though
sword is mainly literally just dash strikes
stable glen
that's what I was doing
but with the heart rend build
I had on sword before
it would just keep piling on
so I think I'll stick to that for sword
ooh fists time, how does the ME build work on fists and what aspect do i take?
thorn marsh
ME is great on fists and the best fists aspect is probably Demeter
thorn marsh
ares attack
stable glen
like after how many hits
thorn marsh
?
stable glen
do I just hit em once and then special
or hit em then dash
or do the full fists combo
or just dash strikes
thorn marsh
well if u have ME without the dash probably hit em a couple times with dash strike and then special
but normally
u just dash strike alot
signal aspen
Hold down attack and spam dash
chrome yoke
My favorite weapon is the spear
stable glen
I think it's my least favorite, I've mainly been doing aphro builds on it
I really like the rail, sheild, and sword
stable glen
Like a "I'ma clap the cheeks of everything in front of me" build
take that as you will
So far, this is my "cheeks clapper" build
high island
Tidal Dash > Flurry Jab > Lightning Strike + Static Discharge or Deadly Strike + Hunter's Mark.
thorn marsh
^
high island
And then all your poms on (1) Tidal Dash and (2) Static Discharge or Hunter's Mark.
thorn marsh
and for a fun build id say hunting blades or crystal clarity
signal aspen
Yeah
thorn marsh
yeah
signal aspen
Anyone also got good achilles builds?
stable glen
interesting, I thought the point of achillies was high % attacks
thorn marsh
nah
stable glen
guess not, I'll give these a shot
Wait how do the poseidon boons play into this tho
Do I go for the other poseidon boons as well then
signal aspen
I got poseidon special for mirage shot
stable glen
ah
signal aspen
And tidal dash is really good with achilles
high island
Yeah, you want Breaking Wave, Razor Shoals etc. if you have Tidal Dash.
signal aspen
Yeah
stable glen
how does athena's call play into this
thorn marsh
it doesnt lul
stable glen
if it does anything at all
signal aspen
It doesn't do any damage
stable glen
What do y'all think of smoldering air as a boon
I think it's really good on zeus call
but that's about it
maybe athena
brisk trail
One of the very best in the game.
signal aspen
It's one of my favorite duo boons
brisk trail
Dionysus becomes a boss shredder.
signal aspen
Probably my favorite
stable glen
oh yeah dionysus too, I just don't play him that much
signal aspen
Dio call is very good
brisk trail
Aphrodite becomes a boss permastun as well as an incredible defensive option in regular rooms.
Poseidon with Rip Current is probably the next scariest thing in the game.
native field
Wait seriously
river vigil
Rip current is a shredder
native field
I didint think smoldering air was like good at all
thorn marsh
poseidon plus rip current is good yeah
stable glen
I mean, that one is a cheese build
stable glen
I didint think smoldering air was like good at all
it is, a lot of boons don't really need greater calls
brisk trail
Smouldering Air is very good.
river vigil
Smoldering air is good
stable glen
what do y'all think of demeter's legendary
native field
But like with demeter call
thorn marsh
what do y'all think of demeter's legendary
too hard to get
signal aspen
what do y'all think of demeter's legendary
It good
signal aspen
too hard to get
Yeah
stable glen
I think it's pretty pointless
river vigil
what do y'all think of demeter's legendary
Too lazy to get it
signal aspen
Ive gotten it like once
native field
I wonder does that effect work on bosses
signal aspen
I think it's pretty pointless
It's good against bosses, I don't really notice anything different against normal enemies
thorn marsh
I wonder does that effect work on bosses
it does
signal aspen
I wonder does that effect work on bosses
It makes a cool animation and demeter says something
And then the boss explodes
stable glen
you're probably in elysium or styx and who cares about the extra chill, only good for hades tbh, or the heroes if you can somehow get it there
I think zeus has the best legendary
I can't remember how it works on rail tho, it works with chain lightning effects, right?
signal aspen
Yeah
sharp dome
whats zeus lege
river vigil
It does
brisk trail
Splitting Bolt.
river vigil
whats zeus lege
Splitting bolt
sharp dome
what that do
brisk trail
Every lightning bolt you drop summons a second bolt for 40 damage.
river vigil
Yep
native field
Demeter chill can work well on fast attacks if you slap on the uh
boom at max chill
stable glen
Every lightning bolt you drop summons a second bolt for 40 damage.
does it need to be a "bolt" tho cuz it says any lightning boon
but I can't really remember it working well on rail
signal aspen
It doesn't need to be a bolt
brisk trail
Sorry, "lightning bolt" is colloquial.
thorn marsh
splitting is great on rail?
stable glen
cuz there's two kinds of lightning effects, bolt and chain
brisk trail
Any lightning attack summoned will get a bonus bolt.
sharp dome
ive only beat hades once without heat but i found shield with doom to work pretty well, his attacks are easy to dodge from a range and i had alot of doom damage
native field
does it need to be a "bolt" tho cuz it says any lightning boon
There are lightning bolts, chain lightning. Anything that dosent specify either or is both
stable glen
splitting is great on rail?
Honestly I couldn't see what was going on at all as I had the triple rail with support fire and hades melted
stable glen
There are lightning bolts, chain lightning. Anything that dosent specify either ...
okay ty
thorn marsh
Honestly I couldn't see what was going on at all as I had the triple rail with s...
did u have lightning strike?
native field
(I'm pretty sure)
stable glen
did u have lightning strike?
yes
river vigil
Splitting is kinda good on rail
river vigil
But you wouldn't loose that Much dps without it, but its a nice addition
thorn marsh
none of those are really good but probably long kunckle
thorn marsh
is this demeter?
what ur normally looking for is explosive upper and breaching cross
stable glen
okay
thorn marsh
yep
stable glen
hey how does curse of longing work with ME
so if I'd have an aphro special, athena dash, ares attack
granite ether
It doesn't
thorn marsh
it does nothing because ur procing doom too fast for u to get successive hits
and u need athena special to get ME
dash isnt a prereq
stable glen
Oh, I didn't know
thorn marsh
yeah
native field
Hey I just noticed
granite ether
It used to be one in early access
native field
why tho
Now that i'm thinking about it
I dont think, or at least i'm not able to think of a tartarus room layout with 3 doors
All standard rooms in elysium have exacty 2 doors
thorn marsh
3 doors only exist within le asphodel
native field
Yeh
thats what I was gonna point out
Maybe the game is compensating for how bad aphodel is
native field
I wouldent say its harder then elysium purley for the fact elysium has sheild bois
native field
But it is much more... I feel like if I had to sum up one negative thing about the game it would probable be "Asphodel" Painted in bold, red blood letters
stable glen
also, does anyone have good chiron builds they'd care to share?
i had a few but want to experiment or see other things
high island
Heartbreak Strike into either Drunken Flourish or Deadly Flourish and their respective Duo Boon.
native field
What does chiron do again by curiosity
Oh waaait
thats the "my special is homing now"
right
high island
Tidal Dash > Tempest Flourish > Sea Storm with either Electric Shot or Zeus' Aid to unlock Sea Storm.
stable glen
Heartbreak Strike into either Drunken Flourish or Deadly Flourish and their resp...
yeah, that's what I've been doing
high island
Tidal Dash start is the speedrun strat.
stable glen
one time I got a big special booster from chaos and an epic heartbreak flourish so I went with that
worked pretty well too
high island
Epic Heartbreak Flourish is always worth taking up.
Heartbreak Flourish Chiron with Unhealthy Fixation is lovely.
native field
Am I right about that being the chiron bow
thorn marsh
yeah
high island
You can also just fully lean into Attack and Dash-Strike damage and ignore the Special. That's effective.
It's essentially just base bow, but it works.
native field
yeah
👍
perfect catch!
projelly
game if its a faakin perfect catch why u gib me best physh
stable glen
guys
the boons you are offered in styx
depend on the rest of your build right
I can't just be getting lucky every run
native field
I'm 100% sure they are at this point i've made this observation aswell
river vigil
Yep the ones that are in your god pool alr
high island
When you have boons from 4+ gods (not counting Lord Hermes and Master Chaos), any boons you see after that will be from those 4+ gods.
native field
When you have boons from 4+ gods (not counting Lord Hermes and Master Chaos), an...
Ah this explains a few things. Also, this makes... Fam Fav? Worse then you would think
thorn marsh
nah fam fav is still good
high island
You normally get +25% global damage in a run.
stable glen
When you have boons from 4+ gods (not counting Lord Hermes and Master Chaos), an...
really had to add the lord and master titles hih
fam fav?
oh talent
mb
native field
You normally get +25% global damage in a run.
40% > 25%
Though I get what you mean
I will probably still run fam fav on a lot of weapons
high island
25% all of the time > 40% some of the time only when you have the right boons.
native field
though I like running the other for malphon
Its not that hard getting two status curses and 15% more damage is still a decent amount more damage
stable glen
I think the choice between those two talents depends on your planning
if you're almost certain you can get two status curses, and use em, then go for it
high island
It's not 15% more damage, really. It's additive, and you have opportunity cost, and Privileged Status does nothing for the damage you do before you applied both curses.
stable glen
like on my zeus sheild builds, I usually have thunder flourish with jolted and an aphro attack
I'm confused about the flare casts
do those only apply to beowulf, or hera as well
high island
like on my zeus sheild builds, I usually have thunder flourish with jolted and a...
And your first Charged Shot would never get the bonus damage from Privileged Status. That's a lot of one-shots you can miss because of that.
stable glen
And your first Charged Shot would never get the bonus damage from Privileged Sta...
charged shot as in bull rush?
high island
Charged Shot is the best hammer for Aegis.
stable glen
guess I have poor luck, I don't see it often
so what were you saying about the poseidon chiron build?
high island
You start with Tidal Dash, then get Tempest Flourish and either Electric Shot or Zeus' Aid to unlock Sea Storm.
Then you get Sea Storm.
Poms go on Dash or Special.
stable glen
okay
would something similar work for achillies?
i saw people taking about poseidon boons for achillies
thorn marsh
achilles like tidal dash
stable glen
but I think my achillies strats are weak
thorn marsh
Tidal Dash > Flurry Jab > Lightning Strike + Static Discharge or Deadly Strike +...
_ _
high island
Yeah, that. That's the optimal Achilles build.
Special doesn't matter. You use it for the buff and for the movement, not for damage.
Optimal as in optimal for DPS.
Keep in mind I've seen a lot of speedrunners guide new players towards speedrun builds on stream, and that ending very poorly.
stable glen
I got an epic tidal dash and electric shot in taratarus with posiedon keepsake
what keepsake should I use for asphodel, keep the poseidon, zeus, or pom blossom?
high island
For Chiron?
stable glen
yep
I got an epic heartbreak flourish
idk if I should purge it
or just roll with it
she wasn't offering anything else good
high island
Yeah, grab the Eternal Rose and get a t2 from her that unlocks Unhealthy Fixation.
Wdym? All of Lady Aphrodite's boons are perfectly perfect in every way.
stable glen
Is that actually a banned word now, someone deleted my message
native field
Oh my gawd
He's actually commenting how there is a fishing spot just in front of him
high island
It's the context.
high island
He's actually commenting how there is a fishing spot just in front of him
I know, right? It's so good.
native field
I've said it before and i'll say it again, its hard to describe how much perfect this game is
high island
I love the attention to detail in SGG's games.
river vigil
I love the death messages post tru ending
Those are funny
Mans got bitten by a snake
narrow hemlock
Is that actually a banned word now, someone deleted my message
i removed it because it came off rude and unnecessary.
stable glen
i removed it because it came off rude and unnecessary.
sorry
stable glen
Anyone got some zeus sheild builds that aren't straight zeus followed by more zeus
high island
Deadly Flourish, Heartbreak Flourish, Drunken Flourish, Curse of Pain.
All decent picks for DPS.
stable glen
what do you think about trying an ME zeus sheild
with the double attack hammer, and ares on special
high island
It works.
I don't like Merciful End.
Curse of Agony + Divine Flourish and Divine Strike + Curse of Pain both work fine for Merciful End builds.
On Zeus Aspect.
stable glen
yeah, I think it would be stronger with ares on special
if I can get the double attack hammer
high island
Just grab the higher rarity Doom, probably.
stable glen
so then the attack doesn't knock foes away
little bobcat
Is there a point to exceeding the heat gauge?
stable glen
Is there a point to exceeding the heat gauge?
Fueling your own masochist desires.
granite ether
Making the heat gauge cry
uncut dagger
and unlocking the courtyard statues
funny way of saying clout
chrome wharf
a sense of pride and accomplishment
glossy remnant
I am still having a cold but go to work.
Anyways
I had a vison last night
I dreamt about playing modded hades, with hades replaced by Plankton and sayying: "chum and bucket"
It might be my calling. I might mod that. 🤣
high island
Tidal Dash + Heartbreak Strike has become more popular recently in Nemesis speedruns.
stable glen
Tidal Dash + Heartbreak Strike has become more popular recently in Nemesis speed...
I went deadly strike for the crits, gonna try heartbreak flourish for the duo
thanks tho, I just got my fastest time with an absolutely broken build
best one yet, I think
@high island How man hours do you have on hades btw
high island
1,063.7 hours.
stable glen
Holyyyy, this includes early acess, I hope
high island
Yes.
high island
Breaching is the only one that works on Dash-Attacks, yeah.
stable glen
ty
high island
Dash Nova is a lot of fun, though.
But I like it more on Excalibur where it gives you even more damage reduction.
Well, Sturdy gives damage reduction either way.
But I like stacking it on Excalibur.
rapid forum
I don't like dash nova, I'm used to the special dash thingy on sword.
So I keep missing my target cause I let zag fly
high island
Well, you can get used to that, too.
stable glen
Tidal Dash + Heartbreak Strike has become more popular recently in Nemesis speed...
heroic heartbreak strike was to good to pass up
what else is part of that build
I'm not a fan of dash nova either
stable glen
Just the usual Tidal Dash things.
okay, i went aphro keepsake for asphodel already so I guess I'll do poseidon stuff in elysium
high island
You could also check the Well first and maybe take the Hourglass, or take the Coin Purse if you don't have a lot of money. Sigil is decent, too.
Since you'll likely see Poseidon again anyway.
stable glen
Rare heartbreak flourish or sweet nextar?
high island
I like Sweet Nectar.
glossy remnant
Okay, coughing fit. Home I stay.
high island
Get well soon! 
stable glen
hope ya feel better
Turned out to be a pretty strong build
i've been grinding all day
glossy remnant
This cold is just like the heat one Adamant Rail.
I can't beat it yet and it is majorly pissing me off
:D
plush dock
i was just watching a lets play of hades and the streamer called asterius the "dinosaur"
i'm crying
glossy remnant
xD
limpid quartz
Tidal Dash + Heartbreak Strike has become more popular recently in Nemesis speed...
Tidal dash + Heartbreak strike is just super strong
Especially heroic heartbreak strike
brisk trail
heroic is kinda unfeasible to get reliably though
dont think I ever had that one
its good on other rarities too anyway
modern garnet
getting rare crop as early as possible to maximize your heroics...
brisk trail
demeter tho 
modern garnet
yeah probably not the new meta
glossy remnant
Man
My airways feel like they are filled to the brim with sewer water
Anyways... best build fun gun?
glossy remnant
Ugh finally
A sub 30 min clear on all the weapons c: It isn't much but makes me happeh
crystal jackal
good work!
royal thistle
the longer I played the more and more I appreciate sweet surrender I'd rather get it then some duos if it's a decent rarity anyways I kinda like cold embrace more then clarity since 30% > 10% and also it forces you to think about your position in relation to your beams
anyways athena legendary best legendary for basically letting you to never get hit or very rarely at least 😏
stable glen
anyways athena legendary best legendary for basically letting you to never get h...
nah, zeus or posiedon
You can't get hit, if there's nothing alive to hit you
royal thistle
I mean
stable glen
🧠
stable glen
Athena can be a bit annoying to get as you need one very specific boon
stable glen
I'd rather go for beeeg damage
stable glen
that's my strat
royal thistle
And you don't need hp
royal thistle
Anymore
glossy remnant
You can not use a death defiance to get into chaos gates???
royal thistle
You can not use a death defiance to get into chaos gates???
Sadly no
glossy remnant
first time It happend but man that's... ._.
stable glen
You can not use a death defiance to get into chaos gates???
Did you die going into a chaos gate?
stable glen
Aphro legendary is goated
stable glen
I've seen aphro legendary runs where the bosses litteraly can't hit you
royal thistle
I mean you can also just use athena
stable glen
I never try to get athena's but if it is offered, then I'll like it
royal thistle
Arti is prob best god most of the time
dusky wedge
Her utility is very nice
royal thistle
Anyways every build can be a Zeus build
dusky wedge
Complements either crit builds or cast builds
royal thistle
I treat Zeus like an Swedish step child now days since Zeus is ALWAYS THERE
dusky wedge
I should actually try Zeus Chiron
royal thistle
I mean internal cd
dusky wedge
Will the special work on Chiron?
dusky wedge
Just for the luls
dusky wedge
I can already imagine enemies getting yeeted off the map
Does that how it works on Chiron? Poseidon special?
royal thistle
Posideon feels like he should have high scaling
But he's like 50%..
And demeter and aphro do what he does with a status
And haha scaling
Without the Knockback which is kinda a downside
posideon attack pushes enemy out of range of Chiron special
languid wolf
i have died to bone hydra twice
gotten there each time i beat meg though so that's pog
calm pelican
extreme theseus is tough
hollow kettle
On my hell mode save I died in the first encounter I met Thanatos and I got this dialogue when I respawned ;-;
hollow hawk
But you know what has no cd
Seastorm has a cooldown
the same as any lightning
Of 0.2 seconds
seastorm kinda works on chiron? Poseidon special does push even bosses away because of the amount of arrows you'll be shooting
but its also annoying because they'll be constantly out of range
glossy remnant
I hate
the demeter heal
I always think it is automatic and let the food there ._.
stoic flame
smh
glossy remnant
It feels like letting food fall on the ground irl
rapid forum
I didn't know stepping out of lava counts as near miss
ashen nova
I always think it is automatic and let the food there ._.
God that's painful. I've done it too many times haha
stoic flame
nice
stoic flame
have you done all the work orders?
like purchased them
if yes then there not much else you can do with diamonds
stoic flame
ah
dusky wedge
Eris is really good
You can obviously abuse the fast attack speed, but the special is also pretty busted with the right hammers and boons
Rocket Bomb plus Triple Bomb or Hazard Bomb is really strong without even going into the boons
Nvm lol
Wiki says I’m stupid lol
Hazed Bomb doesn’t go with Rocket Bomb lmao
rapid forum
I don't like rocket bomb plus triple bomb, it's pretty slow :/
dusky wedge
But Triple Bomb is
stoic flame
dusky wedge
Feels like a busted Zag aspect spear special
stoic flame
did you just say triple rockets is slow?
rapid forum
Yes 
stoic flame
dusky wedge
Get him 
rapid forum
Rocket shotgun is better
polar root
ah yes
stable glen
Rocket Bomb plus Triple Bomb or ~~Hazard Bomb~~ is really strong without even go...
Nah, rocket bomb + cluster bomb + high % special
GG EZ
polar root
dude i dont do good with eris type weapons
im better with precision type weapons
makes sense why i do more bow and hestia runs
stoic flame
im so ass at aiming
brisk trail
autoaim ez
stoic flame
you good at game tho
how i wish 
polar root
whats your fasted igt finish?
potent gyro
I'm having trouble getting exposed to work after deflecting using basic attack
Is that a bug?
polar root
I'm having trouble getting exposed to work after deflecting using basic attack
its been a while since i tried athena
ill try it
potent gyro
I've had notoriously bad luck with exposed getting to proc in general
polar root
sad
potent gyro
Do you have to deflect a shot into the back of an enemy to make exposed proc?
Or anywhere?
stoic flame
no i think its just that you need to hit the enemy with a move that has a deflect boon
if you have a deflect attack
as long as you hit them
it procs
not too sure
rapid forum
blinding flash
rapid forum
also, you just need to use a deflect on the enemy to proc it
polar root
athena dash da best
rapid forum
doesn't matter whether it's from projectile or not
polar root
even tho i splash dash now
potent gyro
I have deflect on my basic attack. I dash attack to get a guaranteed deflect. I have blinding flash too
Never works
rapid forum
you don't see like a star over their head?
potent gyro
ah that's what it was lol
potent gyro
It just now started happening tho lol
It didn't help that I'm running doom as well so it's hard to see the star and the doom sign at the same time
May need some ui tweaking
polar root
could be nice
rapid forum
I mean if you're running shadow presence from the mirror, you're mostly gonna be backstabbing either way lol
potent gyro
I'm running max upgraded chaos shield rn
polar root
mhm
potent gyro
Chaos shield is the only one I like
stable glen
Chaos shield is the only one I like
try zeus
I used to like chaos
but after trying zeus, never touching chaos again
potent gyro
I tried it. I still prefer Chaos.
polar root
zeus cool
potent gyro
The synergy potential seems more interesting to me. Poseiden wall bounce because ludicrious with 6 shields. Doom combined with exposed seems to be crushing.
My exposed makes doom auto activate now too lol
potent gyro
lol
stoic flame
lmao
potent gyro
It's all about the wall bounce lol
polar root
ah yes
stable glen
...until you realise it hits none of the enemy <:dusa:522248771409543188>
check #h1-victory-boasting it worked very well for me
got a lot of damage off, then the wall hits as well
polar root
pog
rapid forum
if you somehow don't do beeg damage I'd be surprise
stable glen
level 7 too
it was level 3 until styx
potent gyro
oof
rapid forum
hmmmm
chaos isn't interesting enough for me to make build on 
shotgun artemis?
that sounds dumb
....so dumb it might just work....?
polar root
zeus is good right?
stable glen
Zeus special?
rapid forum
well zeus is an obvious choice
potent gyro
I used the gun variant that makes you do 50 base damage after reload, then went artemis with that
It shreks
rapid forum
yes that's hestia
potent gyro
After max upgrading it to do even more damage
rapid forum
it do beeg damage
potent gyro
I like it
Still not as good as artemis bow tho
That double shot, dash artemis, attack artemis, support fire, marked build does ridonk damage
stable glen
yall never had a lucifer laser build
3 beams, infinite ammo, support fire, zeus attack, zeus legendary
it just...
does things...
rapid forum
Lucifer is nice
last one I build was demeter attack, infinite ammo, and crystal clarity
cause LASERS
it's just lasers everywhere
making EM4 harder to see than it already is lol
stable glen
alright
I got an idea for a build
chiron with heartbreak strike, drunken flourish, low tolerance, curse of vengance, and curse of naseua
let's see if I can get it
stoic flame
lucifer with pos attack, zeus special and sea storms is also very fun
polar root
WAIT
I GOT JUKED
WHY DID
I BOUGHT THE HAMMER IN STYX AND I GOT DELTA CHAMBER
BUT I CAN STILL RELOAD
MAGIK
is that intended?
stable glen
BUT I CAN STILL RELOAD
with hestia?
polar root
yeah
rapid forum
yea it's intended
stoic flame
bruh
polar root
ok good
polar root
i didnt pick
stable glen
chiron with heartbreak strike, drunken flourish, low tolerance, curse of venganc...
I got it
glossy remnant
Lol
stable glen
'twas a grand ol' build
glossy remnant
my favorite fact about hades is that more people have pet best doggo than got trough the main story
glossy remnant
polar root
doggo da best
dusky wedge
I’d pet lernie if given the chance
thorn marsh
passion flare gaming
thorn marsh
beowulf is da only weapon that get flares
unless u count dio hera but thats just worse beo LOL
thorn marsh
passion flare gaming is the best gaming of all
polar root
ah yes
frozen granite
wait, if i want to unlock hidden aspect of fist, i need 5 titan blood into the thing right?
thorn marsh
yknow its always satisfying when u phase dad with one volley
thorn marsh
wait, if i want to unlock hidden aspect of fist, i need 5 titan blood into the t...
yeah
polar root
wait, if i want to unlock hidden aspect of fist, i need 5 titan blood into the t...
yup
thorn marsh
talk to le asterius
polar root
any other than the zag aspect
frozen granite
but do i need to put 5 titan bloods into 1 aspect? or spread it
thorn marsh
pretty sure u can do one aspect
frozen granite
ah, so if i spend 3 titan on aspect A, and 2 on aspect B
then i can unlock hidden aspect
thorn marsh
yeah
thorn marsh
depends on the weapon
polar root
chiron
thorn marsh
welp i got no idea best option is to get both lul
polar root
BIG FACTS
void vigil
wait, if i want to unlock hidden aspect of fist, i need 5 titan blood into the t...
You also need to have asterius comment on the fists once you are wearing them before he will give you the waking phrase
fleet walrus
"For sure"
frozen granite
ye i know that, i just want to make sure about the titan blood thing before i drag my way to him
craggy tundra
Hm, I've fully levelled up the Achilles aspect yet haven't unlocked the hidden one yet
for the spear
Oh wait, I need to talk to Achilles first, don't I
high island
Hidden spear is different since it's the first you need to unlock before you can unlock other hidden aspects.
You need to unlock at least 5 other aspects to get the hidden spear.
polar root
should i delete both my saves and start fresh over again?
i wanna be that "new player"
glossy remnant
I’d pet lernie if given the chance <:squirtnya:472124054644457472>
TO be fair
high island
You don't need to delete your saves to do that.
void vigil
why delete your save? you have multiple save slots
polar root
You don't need to delete your saves to do that.
i dont?
void vigil
you can choose one to overwrite then, you dont have to delete all of them.
you might regret it if you overwrite the one with the most progress/the one youve been playing on the longest
glossy remnant
I had the idea that the true ending after you get all quest and everything 100% would be Zagreus wanting to keep Lernie in the house as a pet, Hades disagreeing and Persephone taking his side :D
I'd love that
polar root
that'd be cool
glossy remnant
yee
But man, still. I just love this game so much
From the gamplay, trough the music, to the writing everything is damn good
chrome yoke
The music 😩
The 1000's of voicelines 😩
The graphics 😩
The story 😩
The gamplay 😩
This game gets a solid 94/100
cyan tiger
what would be needed to fill up the 6?
stable glen
The music 😩
The 1000's of voicelines 😩
The graphics 😩
The story 😩
The ga...
I'm also giving it a 9.5, just wish there was more areas and a heat a redesign
the higher difficulties feel kinda "artificial" when so much crap stacks up against you but you're still fighting the same enemies, there's no real reason to do high heat after bounties other than erebus gates and clout
rapid forum
is apsect of gilgamesh any good
it's good. However I recommend to upgrade it a bit. prob level 2 - 3. to get more damage out of it
frozen granite
His mom be like ||"Don't tell anyone that i've returned"||
But then he ||"Master Chaos you wont belive it, my mom is back"||
brisk trail
is apsect of gilgamesh any good
No not really
For speed it’s pretty trash, for casual and stuff it’s ok
glossy remnant
Some runs I'm just 
Because man... Having 7 minutes left, and like one simple attack away from victory...
lone kernel
the higher difficulties feel kinda "artificial" when so much crap stacks up agai...
At hour 245, don’t have an answer for ya, but I keep playing lol
mellow tide
Hearing Orpheus sing in the great hall was worth buying the game alone
misty knot
true
high island
+100% global damage for 1.5s, yeah.
stoic flame
gl
tender oyster
i got him down and then he regenerates?! wtf!
glossy remnant
:D
signal aspen
yeah he does that
signal aspen
rama imo
signal aspen
yeah
brisk trail
hera best for speed, rama best for heat
glossy remnant
To me chiron seems best
bright jasper
Chiron taught me bow mechanics, and now I favour Rama.
umbral hollow
man i need so much darkness but even though i use the weapon with darkness skill in the run still getting few 
hollow hawk
honestly all bows are really good
thorn marsh
hollow hawk
each have their own purpose and niche
thorn marsh
