So this bow build is getting weird
#h1-discussion
midnight crypt
Personally, I can't stand the bow without aspect of Chiron.
stuck sentinel
tbh i like rama more that chiron
chrome wharf
me @ Achilles Spear
Ran chiron exactly once across 2 files and it's a meme run too
heard it's good on higher difficulty tho
stable glen
I don't really like bow, trying to get chiron
unborn remnant
Hera bow is really cool
stable glen
I think my favorite weapons are eris, lucifer, talos, and nemesis
Oh chaos and achillies are up there too
One of my best builds
native field
Hera bow with, right now I have demeter cast
so I can play like engineer in TF2
SENTRY DOWN
stable glen
Was lucifer with the triple beam hammer upgrade and infinite ammo upgrade, epic zeus attack, 30% faster attack, and support fire
fresh orchidBOT
@stable glen Watch your language.
stable glen
it melted everything, especially hades as I could hit him with all 3 beams at once
Hey guys
need some advice
native field
ive sort of realised though im now in a position where I cant really get the multi curse damage buff
stable glen
let's say you make it to asphodel
with most of the core boons, if not all, and just yk, good stuff
would it be better to take the 2 boons rarity up or 4 boons level up from eurydice?
unborn remnant
hera bow with aphrodite attack is amazing
stable glen
what gods to take for achilles?
Any high % thing on the attack
native field
I put artemis on my special for the bow
sounds like its logical
if I see projectiles coming my way, I can just say nope
stable glen
Wait @native field which aspect
limpid quartz
All I know is that Sea Storm Spear is just so busted op
It can easily trigger Privilaged status
native field
Wait <@!155719543610671104> which aspect
Wait sorry athena
not artemis
I keep confusing the two
stable glen
Wait sorry athena
Oh, I was confused for a sec
native field
also aspect of Hera
native field
tbh im gonna kill myself to reset to a new run- but the special for that one is normal
I just think using athena on its special would make sence
stable glen
I thought for anything that's not chiron, you'd want zeus, dionysus, or ares?
The special is weak unless you shotgun it, or use it to spread a status curse
native field
Yeah but the idea is I'm not using the special offensivley
faint moon
Athena on the bow's Special for defensive purposes is solid
native field
☝️
stable glen
Ah, i see what you mean
As a "deflect all projecticles and flame wheels" kinda thing
I think playing bow is really good for that mirror talent where you do extra damage on enemies with two status curses
Grab a dionysus special and aphrodite attack
and boom
faint moon
For sure, first time I got to the Witches' Circle with Athena on the bow's Special, I thought: you ain't gonna do nothing to me hehe
stable glen
A good lucifer rail build is one of the most fun and OP things in the game
it you can get 3 really important boons being thunder strike, swift strike, and support fire
Eris is also great, but I find lucifer more fun
languid wolf
the existence of zagreus implies the existence of zigreus
unborn remnant
what
pearl arch
Do you get anything for giving Skelly more ambrosia?
signal aspen
Those aren't that good on chiron
stable glen
Those aren't that good on chiron
Yeah ik, I switched to heoric artemis
but tbh, i think my epic zeus + jolted was doing more damahe
Just looking at the damage numbers
signal aspen
Do you get anything for giving Skelly more ambrosia?
You get a companion the first time you give him ambrosia, after that it's just for the story
stable glen
@signal aspen I think I'm gonna try a different bow aspect
With dionysus special, aphro attack and try to get their duo boon
twilit nimbus
I just got my signed chtonic Gods poster I'm so happy it's beautiful ;-;
signal aspen
what boons/keepsakes
Start Poseidon keepsake and get his dash, and then get either zeus or artemis attack
signal aspen
Athena on the bow's Special for defensive purposes is solid
Tbh I feel like you should just skip using bows special on anything but rama and Chiron
stable glen
Tbh I feel like you should just skip using bows special on anything but rama and...
Bow's special is good for spreading a status curse
If you chose to run that talent that gives you bonus damage for two status curses, and just good to spread stuff like doom or jolted
signal aspen
I don't think it's worth it
signal aspen
It's just too slow
signal aspen
would it be better to take the 2 boons rarity up or 4 boons level up from eurydi...
For me I would take the ambrosia and hope that it hits something good, if it doesn't then I will quit, come back, and take the pom
signal aspen
Rarity
stable glen
For me I would take the ambrosia and hope that it hits something good, if it doe...
You can save scum that?
Didn't know
signal aspen
Yeah
stable glen
good idea
signal aspen
You can quit any room as long as you didn't take damage in that room
stable glen
honestly, not into most of the hidden aspects
signal aspen
All of the hidden aspects are good except for gilgamesh
stable glen
They make a lot of the weapons feel slow, they hit very hard, but not my personal playstyle
Arthur and lucifer are really good
didn't get rama yet
guan yu is nice too, but too glass canon for me
keen lichen
hmm
went through a chamber door with athena reward, with boss.
i go in, god trial: zeus and athena.
flint pollen
Apparently petrocolis's keepsake is a piece of crap?
Doesnt seem to protect you from getting hit twice by the same attack
flint pollen
However you spell it xD
signal aspen
Doesnt seem to protect you from getting hit twice by the same attack
Wdym?
flint pollen
Like, unless theres a significant delay to the damage appearing and you getting actually killed
It doesnt seem to protect
signal aspen
The keepsake makes you go invulnerable for 1.5 seconds or something after taking some damage and has a cooldown of like 7 seconds
manic bobcat
It doesnt seem to protect
it's good for lilke styx
where being double hit and poison are more relevant
modern garnet
Every time you get hit you get to not take poison damage for 1.5 seconds
modern garnet
Yeah razor shoals is nice in this context
native field
Trippy shot hera bow regenerating cast crystals =
explosive bow killing things offscreen
Oh boy
THAN ROMANCE
i'm making progress on it
also
lernie vanquised
the amount of perfection this game is
stable glen
It amazes me that more people got 30% than butterfly on steam than beat 16 heat
modern garnet
Maybe butterfly was added before heat?
dark vector
dont remember what build it was I remember having too much fun with a build that just bounced my enemies into oblivion
native field
Man I find Asterius & Theseus'es thing to be incredibly good story/characther design
dark vector
it was poseiden boons I know that
native field
Like theseus is incredibly annoying but asterius probably is one of the most respectfull characthers
plush dock
every great game needs a great bromance
asterius deserves someone a little better though
native field
I mean, I havent completed Theseuse's thing
but i'm hoping that hes still a good person doing what he did for Asterius?
Ive also just realised
They drop ambrosia
ofc thgey drop ambrosi
the one thing that mechanically you give to step up your relationship
modern garnet
Later story beats show that they have a lot of respect for each other
Also I get the sense theseus is hamming it up for the audience
native field
I do too, though I would feel if that was the case we would get like a jab or two at that in the dialog
Also just my first bow win
modern garnet
Zag would NEVER break kayfabe
native field
Kayfabe?
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/862868796212379658/unknown.png?width=1051&height=657 also first bow win yey
modern garnet
It's the fourth wall in wrestling terms
native field
Ahh
I mean xag dosent even seem to notice there is one
Well
in his first dialogs
chrome wharf
that's a trippy shot alright
mint coral
buyed a light of ixion and cant use by 2 hp points 
flint pollen
What happens if you have less HP than a khaos gate takes and use it?
Can you even use it?
mint coral
nope
flint pollen
Lol
plush dock
buyed a light of ixion and cant use by 2 hp points <:SuiHihihi:68608989784873369...
ive been there
also today i bought the infernal trove item and forgot to look for it before i moved to the next chamber lmao
high island
buyed a light of ixion and cant use by 2 hp points <:SuiHihihi:68608989784873369...
If there's a trap or magma, you can use that to revive and enter the gate.
mint coral
i tought of that too but it was only the arrows trap in the 3rd area ( i never remember its name)
and didnt think of being hit at the last moment
lament night
Got smoldering air which I need for my duo prophecy....and its crossed out because I have approval process
A few chambers later, I get smoldering air again... and its crossed out again
rapid forum
lmao
lament night
yea ap is a pain
its one of the only things i have left for harsh conditions prophecy tho so i gotta do it
modern garnet
well now that you have smouldering air it should be ez
lament night
I won no thanks to smoldering air lol i had aphrodites aid and charm is kinda useless on hades
rapid forum
the full gauge is use- oh
right
smoldering air
woops
you can cancel his lasers tho
modern garnet
Better than nothing
manic bobcat
free i frames
modern garnet
Well you gotta buy the bat cage first
Hard to tell what contractor stuff is interactable
But twice a day I can get the correct time, definitely worth the gems
modern garnet
Must have been a great build
stable glen
31sec fastest i beat hades
Nice one
What's y'alls top 3 favorite gods?
I think mine are athena, zeus, and artemis
stable glen
you haven't gotten the sundial yet? it's great
nah
I was farming cthonic keys for cthonic theme
now I'll go back to grinding decor
river vigil
man im gonna need to grind decors man
void vigil
i remember when vanquishers keep wasnt in the game and you had to grind gemstones just by finding gemstone rooms
after completing prophecies
if youre grinding gems - buy vanquishers keep asap
mossy lily
DO NOT type DIMDEN into the gif searcher
craggy tundra
high island
I won no thanks to smoldering air lol i had aphrodites aid and charm is kinda us...
You can practically perma-charm Hades with that combo. 
woven nacelle
Why hasn’t there been an update since April? They were pretty consistent before then
vapid narwhal
well the game is fully released and the biggest new feature the Japanese translation is in
modern garnet
it's either a new game or a big update, and I'm guessing it's a new game
vapid narwhal
right now their biggest priority is obviously getting the other console versions out
and these things can take some time
modern garnet
I dunno how big a hand they have in porting, they've gotten contractors to help with past ports
narrow hemlock
Why hasn’t there been an update since April? They were pretty consistent before ...
there hasn't been any significant content updates since the game's full release back in September. updates since then have been largely balance, localization and various other odds and ends. the game is a finished product
golden turtle
What's y'alls top 3 favorite gods?
Demeter, Artemis, Athena
stable glen
Demeter is my 4th, I run rail and malphon a lot so gotta have zeus in there
golden turtle
I like Demeter for Frost Revenge and Call, Rare Crop if i get common or rare alot
Artemis for Pressure Point and Support Fire, and maybe Hunter Mark
Athena for Dash and Deflect Revenge
woven nacelle
there hasn't been any significant content updates since the game's full release ...
Yeah but I was enjoying the balance changes. Not sure why they’d just stop
woven nacelle
What's y'alls top 3 favorite gods?
Demeter, Zeus, arty
narrow hemlock
the changes weren't meant to be a consistently ongoing thing
eventually supergiant is going to hit a point where they feel the game is in a good enough place they don't need to adjust anything. whether they have hit that point yet is anyone's guess
stable glen
Idk, a lot of top tier rougelite games
have received MAJOR content updates, not just balances changes
narrow hemlock
hades isn't like other games of the genre
stable glen
ie. Dead cells, enter the gungeon, etc.
bright jasper
I won no thanks to smoldering air lol i had aphrodites aid and charm is kinda us...
At the heats I'm playing at (low 30s), If I can hit that combo, often the only thing between me and a clear is the clock. It saves me from damage when I screw up and it opens windows for more damage that wouldn't otherwise exist.
narrow hemlock
it's not a game that will get continual updates
stable glen
Would be nice to get some new boons or new decor
narrow hemlock
the game first and foremost sets out to tell a story, and for the time being that story is complete. what's in the future is up to supergiant and if they move into a new project as they usually tend to do or not
woven nacelle
The only thing I could possibly see happening is DLC with how massive the game got post launch
But the lack of updates makes sense when put into perspective. SG is working on getting the game ported to PS and Xbox atm
stable glen
Still, would be nice tho to get some new content here and there
brisk trail
Okay, it's important to recognize that the quality of SGG's games is thanks to them only ever chasing their muses.
Bastion was big! A different studio may have chased that instead, and while they certainly could have put out a good sequel or expansion the growth of the studio could have only happened the way it did if they stuck to their guns.
manic bobcat
Still, would be nice tho to get some new content here and there
Maybe maybe not.
Give it time. Hell the game is barely one year old.
brisk trail
This article is a great insight into their process, and "Well, other roguelites get lots of content and balance updates," misses the point of their ethos in making games.
mint coral
This is the 2nd time i see that post but just the mental image of what is going in sgg is so fun 
brisk trail
Like by the time Hades rolled around everyone was going "God, just let Amir and Greg duke it out, they always make it to the end anyway."
royal thistle
what?
modern garnet
if sgg wanted to make the same game forever, they wouldn't have gotten to hades
royal thistle
just some number tweaks would be pog doe
like some duos are like 😔
actually like worse then not having the duo
😔 looking at you freezing vortex
it doesn't even give a buff to damage just a decrease to size 😭
if you already have a core demeter boon why do I need more chill application and anyone sane would put demeter on a fast hitting attack like main attack already for fists like example
stable glen
***if you already have a core demeter boon why do I need more chill application ...
Well, i sometimes have her on special when I get an epic from her
demeters legendary is ehhhh
royal thistle
anyways it's kinda the most pointless duo
it don't even boost your dps
it just kinda.. decreases it
uncut dagger
wait I just realized where is the monthly challenge...
for July?
if you want the previous one here ya go
cerulean ferry
Pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat
rapid forum
aight
haven't done it
gonna do it for the laughs
anyways this was my last run, thought I'd record this cause it was fun
I didn't choose the thumbnail
brisk trail
They're Chaotic Evil?
royal thistle
no I like the colour white
rapid forum
my friend put it to light mode cause he opens discord at work
as to get away with it
he put it to light mode
looks like docs from afar
royal thistle
also because it makes it easier to see if there are new messages
also because it's stylish
👀
manic bobcat
Aesthetics
rapid forum
anyway gonna do a run, brb in.... idk 30 mins?
royal thistle
yes
aesthetics
it also fits my light mode browser
it's just clean looking man
and it makes it so my pfp doesn't stick out like a sore thumb
anyways
among
^ this word will never be the same
anyways time to continue looking at a dude undress in a manga 😏
quartz hearth
this cracked me up so hard
Zag in the perennial meme, gesturing at a butterfly: Is this a HECKING NUISANCE?
the boy is clearly developing a butterfly phobia
he's gonna get up to the surface and encounter a perfectly normal butterfly on a flower somewhere and be like 😱
brisk trail
Now I'm imagining Zag splatting a butterfly at ||Persephone's cottage|| and he looks over and sees ||her|| completely horrified.
quartz hearth
absolutely losing his marbles over some poor innocent insect
not today, you little--
royal thistle
e
justified
have you seen them up close
also don't forget butterflies are fuzzy
vapid narwhal
Hades had two years worth of addition. It's not built in one night.
If they wanted to add something, it would be in the game now
royal thistle
😔 I want them to add buffs to cold swirl
tiny saws is pain
I was already compensating for something
😭
with big saws
dusky wedge
Doesn’t it sounds like most stuffs is reversed in the Underworld? Butterflies are dangerous while snakes are friendly
royal thistle
wait snakes are in hades
I'm pretty sure the only snake I know lernie is not really friendly
dusky wedge
wait snakes are in hades
One of the death quips by the Narrator was how Zag meets an real world snake, thought it was friendly and tried to greet it, only to be greeted back, venomously
dusky wedge
with 1 hp left
Nice! Now show us your skills in avoiding death 
karmic hare
wait snakes are in hades
Dusa is friendly and snake
Gorgon have snake hair
And also the companion snake
rapid forum
what's the highest title you can get?
granite ether
modern garnet
It's such a cool title to have!
kind pagoda
what to build for aspect of zeus?
kind pagoda
i wanna try zeus special
modern garnet
If I had all the time in the world to gather darkness I'd definitely go get it
rapid forum
slow and steady
modern garnet
Zeus special Zeus aspect is what everyone recommends
kind pagoda
ikr
modern garnet
There's other options but that's the memorable one
kind pagoda
but like what other gods/duo boons should i aim for
rapid forum
personally I'd go for aphro special on zeus aspect
modern garnet
Zeus has a lot of good duos
brisk trail
aphro special is a wierd pick, but aphro does enough dmg so it works ig
modern garnet
You could go aphro attack Zeus special and go for smouldering air
That's one of those duos that works on most weapons
brisk trail
your main focus should be on zeus T2 boons and his legendary
rapid forum
any really
brisk trail
zeus call
rapid forum
zeus call is the best pick tho
kind pagoda
aight
kind pagoda
your main focus should be on zeus T2 boons and his legendary
t2?
modern garnet
Go for Zeus call because that way your lightning upgrades are twice as good
modern garnet
And then get heroic level 6 double strike and just win automatically
Oh right lightning rod is another duo that loves lightning
That's with artemis
kind pagoda
aight
brisk trail
you can def get it if you want to
rapid forum
I've checked the title list, I am still pretty far away 
kind pagoda
so zeus special, aphro's atk?
brisk trail
and zeus call
brisk trail
eh ideally athena or poseidon
modern garnet
Zeus dash a bit underwhelming, but if you're sure you'll get good lightning you can
Maaaybe dio cast? Only if you want that duo basically
kind pagoda
gotchu
modern garnet
Otherwise arte cast for the lightning rod
kind pagoda
also what conditions can I raise for 3 heat so that I won't notice them that much?
modern garnet
What have you been doing so far
There's a few trick heats that are worse than they seem
modern garnet
Oh yeah the top ones are usually pretty safe
LC can get kinda scary
Maybe JS1 or TD1
kind pagoda
does calisthenics raise hp of bosses too?
dusky wedge
Tight Deadline is always easy early heat
kind pagoda
aight
modern garnet
The above is a joke
stoic flame
ah
modern garnet
Don't try to trick the single digit heat folx... its rude
modern garnet
I could say EM3 is the easiest heat but that's not gonna be easiest for people who haven't gotten used to it
stoic flame
fair
kind pagoda
do these attacks deal more dmg or are just new patterns?
dusky wedge
It all depends on how you play tbh, but imo TD is easiest because it really doesn’t need you to do much changes to your playstyle
dusky wedge
For FO, better learn to dodge at least decently enough
modern garnet
Which heat do you mean dasei
stoic flame
TD 1 is very generous
modern garnet
No like, which kind of heat are you asking about
kind pagoda
No like, which kind of heat are you asking about
em
modern garnet
Having a timer on your screen might scare you a little but that's all that td1 will do to you
stoic flame
7 win streak for now
nice
modern garnet
EM generally changes how the fight goes, more attacks, bigger damage
stoic flame
i can consistently get sub 20 now
kind pagoda
btw does charge shot scale with atk%?
stoic flame
i tried charged skewer guan yu and it worked so well
until hades
hades handed my ass to me
i got a bit too close
stoic flame
forgot my hp is ded af
oh shield bull rush?
i think it doesnt matter
its just distance
modern garnet
Yeah probably scales with atk%
kind pagoda
the attack %age is good af
gotchu
stoic flame
rng 💀
my rng is so bad
ive been waiting for dusa bond for so long
im starting to thing there is something i need to do
but idk what
sick ridge
guys on a nemesis heard rend run, do you need pash dash? Just really annoying me how my dash doesn't do any damage
stoic flame
you dont need it
kind pagoda
also can meg/than appear in the house if you just die in tartarus' second chamber?
sick ridge
ok cool
stoic flame
d
modern garnet
Generally you're inflicting weak enough already without the dash
kind pagoda
oh and btw i have 14 ambrosia now
do i really need that much
or should i trade a let's say half for blood
stoic flame
you run out of it pretty quickly
kind pagoda
uhm is it more than 1 for a bond?
modern garnet
Eventually you run into ambrosia sinks, but you'll always get more
stoic flame
yeah
modern garnet
Some bonds need more than 1 yeah
dusky wedge
You can get arte dash, then you can aphro special one time, dash strike two times with arte attack, then aphro special again, rinse and repeat
dusky wedge
Maximizing your damage output with nemesis
kind pagoda
also do you need orpheus/eury bond for them to reunite?
stoic flame
no
modern garnet
Meg and than need like 3
stoic flame
you need to reunite them to get the bond
kind pagoda
so i don't need to give them nectar
stoic flame
you do
kind pagoda
i gave orpheus 3
stoic flame
you need to give nectar to nyx, orphy and eury
modern garnet
No
stoic flame
i think you need to keep giving it to them until you reach the locked heart
so thats about hmmm
8 each?
kind pagoda
ok
modern garnet
It will take a while
But luckily you probably don't need keys anymore
And nectar is just ground up keys apparently
kind pagoda
are there other prerequisites for meg's legendary keepsake other than just having a bond?
modern garnet
You have to talk a Lot
modern garnet
Idr
modern garnet
I dunno
stoic flame
if there is only one target do both of them target the same person and deal 5k damage?
if thats the case then it might be very good
modern garnet
Honestly by the time you get the chance to bond someone you'll probably have more amb
high island
if there is only one target do both of them target the same person and deal 5k d...
2x 1.5k is 3k damage, but yes, they can target the same enemy.
Antos is the second most popular companion at high heat after Battie.
rapid forum
They give you titles
sick ridge
how many rooms are predetermined before you start the run?
rapid forum
They bear no meaning and is there for bragging rights
crisp fractal
is chain shot good on chiron?
brisk trail
point blank is prob the best here yeah
crisp fractal
aphrodite why
do i pick the legendary or low tollerance?
they got offered at the same time
there's also the epic attack
she offered all 3 boons i needed
crisp fractal
yeah the amount of polish is unbelievable
lavish gyro
I beat Charon for the first time in my fastest run of the game
Using Aspect of Arthur
brisk trail
low tolerance is better on chiron
oh but you dont have an atk yet? How are you applying weak
native field
OHHH OH OHH YES
crisp fractal
oh but you dont have an atk yet? How are you applying weak
dash, i picked attack so i could reliably weaken foes, now i hope i get the duo again
native field
kind pagoda
what's the best build for beowulf?
stoic flame
dio cast, zeus on any core boon and get the duo
smh
also the hammer which makes bull rush into charge shot
i think its called charged shot
brisk trail
atk was a good choice yeah
stable glen
I actually like the bow now
aspect of chiron is pretty damn good
had some nice chiron builds today
native field
Ay I just go my first malphon win
stoic flame
poggers
native field
stable glen
That means I played for 6.4 hours a day...
kind pagoda
4*
stable glen
This game is addictive
kind pagoda
ikr
stable glen
Could been grinding VALORANT but nope, here I am
stable glen
ive had hades for 5 months and i have 86 hrs
Weakling
stable glen
wanna add me?
Sure, I don't play ranked tho, if that's your thing
kind pagoda
i don't play ranked anymore, placements made me not want to play the game anymore
stable glen
i don't play ranked anymore, placements made me not want to play the game anymor...
Bro.
I feel you
I climbed b1 when I started on launch day to gold 3 on my main
and then placements dropped me gold 1 to silver 1
I was climbing
kind pagoda
i have like 1 friend that plays with me daily, that's not enough to win apparently
kind pagoda
the thing is, we could win 2v5, the other 3 ppl literally only hindered us
stable glen
and that's where I go if I wanna play ranked, but my skins are on my main
stable glen
the thing is, we could win 2v5, the other 3 ppl literally only hindered us
I know, I play reyna, took out 3 then died, and my team still looses
how do you lose a 2v4
kind pagoda
ikr
stable glen
Just play it safe
stoic flame
move to #video-games when
stable glen
oh mb
we done anyway tho, I need a break from that game, too bad there is no escape
eh see what I did there
stoic flame
😼
kind pagoda
should i go with rare zeus special or common zeus atk?
i have epic dio cast and charged shot
stable glen
should i go with rare zeus special or common zeus atk?
what weapon
kind pagoda
life good
stoic flame
nobody cares about special on beo
kind pagoda
aight
stable glen
Honestly
If I get a common attack in tartarus
I usually don't take it
I use my asphodel keepsake on that then
kind pagoda
imma hope for good eury rng
stoic flame
its mostly dragon rush
kind pagoda
so better to take special
stoic flame
if pp is an option take that
kind pagoda
pp?
stoic flame
pressure points
stoic flame
her greater call is really good
kind pagoda
better than zeus?
stoic flame
takes a fat chunk off the bosses
kind pagoda
aight
stoic flame
ig if ur going for a zeus dio build zeus call is a good choice
stable glen
ik the dps is good, but imagine using it
stoic flame
zeus call is annoying
why?
stoic flame
💀
crisp fractal
does aphro's favour require me to max out my bond with all 3 romanceable npcs
or can i just leave dusa at her first bottle of ambrosia
high island
All three.
crisp fractal
wow that's a lot of ambrosia for dusa then
i have a lot of bottles from the epilogue but still
high island
Lady Aphrodite voices Dusa.
So of course you should give her a lot.
It's Lady Aphrodite and Dusa's birthday today, too.
crisp fractal
oh really that's cool
high island
what's the best build for beowulf?
Passion Flare with Mirage Shot and Flood Flare with Mirage Shot are the current meta. It's Lady Aphrodite's birthday today, so obviously, you take Passion Flare. 
crisp fractal
ok that's 9 ambrosia down for dusa
rapid forum
your doom got bonus +40 when you activate it with deflect
rapid forum
yes
that's why it's one of the best duo boons out there
pair that with impending doom and divine dash, you get an absolute monster of a build
dusky wedge
You use it when you’re outside of a door
kind pagoda
explain?
dusky wedge
There should be a button prompt that appears when you approach a door in a run
kind pagoda
so it's random
and i can't know what reward it will be
so i just reroll something
or is it after i clear a room
dusky wedge
Yup, it just changes the current door reward to another random one, if the current one isn’t to your liking
dusky wedge
or is it after i clear a room
Before you enter the next room
kind pagoda
oh aight
so i have merciful end now, athena special, ares atk
on aspect of demeter
but they're all common
should i go for demeter and try to get the boon that upgrades other boons every X encounters
or poseidon/athena for their call
im in elysium
stoic flame
nice
kind pagoda
what's a good build for eris?
kind pagoda
aight
kind pagoda
gotchu
signal aspen
and get poseidon dash
kind pagoda
and uhm what cast?
stoic flame
posiedon cast fun
signal aspen
but yeah you dont really need a cast
signal aspen
you wont be casting much
no you should be casting so your special can do more damage
kind pagoda
so should i be going for artemis or aphro in asphodel
like who has better duo
in case i get it
stoic flame
no you should be casting so your special can do more damage
yeha i was typing but i gave up mid way
signal aspen
yeha i was typing but i gave up mid way
bruh
stoic flame
ah
high island
You'll want Rocket Bomb before Cluster Bomb, ideally, and then hopefully both.
kind pagoda
kk
high island
Zeus' Aid if his other offers aren't better or otherwise just grab Sigil later in the run.
Mostly Sigil.
Dionysus' Aid can be great sometimes. If he offers it at epic, might as well take it.
high island
Rocket.
high island
Rocket Bomb with Fiery Presence just one-shots a lot of enemies.
steep bobcat
ok so i got the game 2 weeks ago, and already it's easily one of my favorite video games of all time
stoic flame
such is the way of hades players
steep bobcat
time to get out of hell again
kind pagoda
what is a good nemesis build?
it's strange, but after I finished the main story, I suddenly have more motivation to keep playing the game
dusky wedge
Aphro attack, arte dash should be good, maximize those attack power to reap from the crit chance
modern garnet
ideally you want to land on heart rend, the aphro arte duo
dusky wedge
Check Heart Rend reqs and plan your picks around that
frozen granite
did i just invite dusa for a date? 
kind pagoda
Try to get Unhealthy Fixation too while you're at it
aight
peak orbit
Go on she's sweet
dusky wedge
peak orbit
It's the Legemdary boon and trust me with your attack it's busted
peak orbit
pair that with impending doom and divine dash, you get an absolute monster of a ...
I knew it was good but holy hell
Spoiler Alert: ||I let her keep it||
lethal socket
@everyone
signal aspen
Cool
stoic flame
me when the when me
signal aspen
me when me when the
granite plinth
any fun fist builds besides merciful end or zeus?
unborn remnant
awesome
signal aspen
any fun fist builds besides merciful end or zeus?
You can do dash only Gilgamesh
granite plinth
any good fist builds besides merciful end or zeus?
brisk trail
I like Dionysus on Attack, Artemis on Special, Aphrodite on Dash using Aspect of Demeter. Get Splitting Headache, Low Tolerance, Heart Rend.
brisk trail
Get max Hangover stacks, get a Giga Cutter charge, delete the world.
void vigil
you could do lambent plume with zag aspect and try to get as much dodge chance as possible
stoic flame
yeah thats pretty fun
granite plinth
man
all the fist aspects have the same gameplan
hold attack and dash around
it's really braindead and good but i wish there was more variety
manic bobcat
it's really braindead and good but i wish there was more variety
Well the special plays quite differently? And Gilgamesh is, well, whatever the heck Gilgamesh is.
signal aspen
Bruh
manic bobcat
Shut
granite plinth
mate
stoic flame
pp man just got shut'd
signal aspen
Imagine thinking Gilgamesh is called beowulf
stoic flame
🥴
granite plinth
i'm pretty sure if i clicked special at all my time wouldve went down
XD
at least demeter makes it worth it to use special
signal aspen
Nice
glossy remnant
I'm a big boy now
granite plinth
good job!
glossy remnant
Few questions
manic bobcat
without even using the special once
Imagine how much faster you can go if you actually use it.
glossy remnant
Can I reset Titan blood? or is it weapong bound for good=
signal aspen
Can I reset Titan blood? or is it weapong bound for good=
No
stoic flame
im pretty sure talos special is a dps loss
._.
signal aspen
But you can get more titan blood now that you've killed hades
manic bobcat
im pretty sure talos special is a dps loss
Look fam, normal rooms aside, which is a time save.
Bosses can be debuff with the special.
stoic flame
doesnt talos special do 20 extra damage or something
manic bobcat
So it's definitely faster if you learn to use it
glossy remnant
is there a max level with blood upgrades?
manic bobcat
Yes
signal aspen
Yeah
manic bobcat
Level 5
signal aspen
No it's 69 levels
stoic flame
go for it
manic bobcat
But normally you only get 5 levels.
signal aspen
Oh no
narrow hemlock
keep the commentary clean please
signal aspen
Bruh
glossy remnant
Huh I got another one
Probably a few more at this point
But what is Ambrosia good for?
signal aspen
But what is Ambrosia good for?
It's used after you unlock a characters heart
manic bobcat
You can trade a couples for Blood
stoic flame
forging epic bonds
manic bobcat
But don't spend them all
high island
You can cancel Talos's Special with a Dash immediately after the pull with practically no time loss and get the debuff that way.
stoic flame
getting epic stickers on the things
manic bobcat
They are used for "legendary" keepsakes
glossy remnant
meaning?
manic bobcat
You know keepsakes?
signal aspen
Companions
stoic flame
spoiled
glossy remnant
Every time you use a keepsake you got to use an Ambrosia?
stoic flame
jail pp man right now
signal aspen
Shut
manic bobcat
Every time you use a keepsake you got to use an Ambrosia?
No
stoic flame
unacceptable
manic bobcat
You need Ambrosia to unlock those Companions, or Legendary Keepsakes.
high island
I dunno if somebody comes into a channel with "All spoilers welcome!", they should expect spoilers.
signal aspen
Every time you use a keepsake you got to use an Ambrosia?
After you complete a characters favor you will unlock their heart, and you need ambrosia to fill it
cosmic pawn
Spending ambrosia on a specific keepsake lets you use it more times each run.
cosmic pawn
“Need” yeah.
stoic flame
I dunno if somebody comes into a channel with "All spoilers welcome!", they shou...
twas a joke
manic bobcat
So I only need 6?
You need a lot
cosmic pawn
You’ll get plenty sooner than later
cosmic pawn
you need 6 in theory to unlock each keepsake
manic bobcat
And another 15 to upgrade each
signal aspen
And another 15 to upgrade each
I think it's 10
cosmic pawn
after that, ambrosia use is spread between mini story options, upgrading keepsakes, Titian blood trading, yada yada
signal aspen
It goes 1 > 2 > 3 > 4
manic bobcat
Honestly guys, it doesn't help
If you overload them with info
When they probably don't even know what a companion is
stoic flame
true
manic bobcat
So just keep it simple like oh it's for a future special upgrade
signal aspen
Ok
manic bobcat
True
stoic flame
lmao noob
royal thistle
what
granite plinth
@manic bobcat i'm sorry but everything you just told me lost all credibility
signal aspen
Lmao
manic bobcat
xD
signal aspen
stoic flame
manic bobcat
sometimes you can't decide between facts and fictions
so I have decided to live in both
Schrodinger's clear
signal aspen
There's some stuff for the house contractor
stoic flame
you can unlock frames and stuff
manic bobcat
they are purely cosmetics though
native field
https://i.ibb.co/L8y4Ynf/image.png I was concentrating so hard for this but I GOT IT
signal aspen
Nice
modern garnet
ah im jelous
kind pagoda
what's a good build for lucifer?
stoic flame
pos attack zeus special into sea storms
stoic flame
hello here im dad
signal aspen
hey i was gonna say that
stoic flame
you were bested
brisk trail
bte why did hades capture his son?
brisk trail
like he is his son he should be allowed to leave house no?
stoic flame
he physically cannot
unborn remnant
how far into the game are you
signal aspen
hes bound to the underworld
brisk trail
im like 1 hr in
stoic flame
ah
unborn remnant
Yeah thats plot
stoic flame
play some more
brisk trail
ayy thanks no spoilers xD
manic bobcat
zag has a special condition called ligma that stops him from leaving
brisk trail
so is this game based on actual lore or was it just made for this game
stoic flame
ah yes
stoic flame
uh oh
signal aspen
oh no
unborn remnant
Actual lore?
stoic flame
🗿
manic bobcat
np, glad to be of service
signal aspen
lmao
brisk trail
it's a special condition
yes
stoic flame
high island
you can unlock frames and stuff
Yeah, just turn off V-Sync.
manic bobcat
vsync deez nuts lmao
stoic flame
gotem
signal aspen
good one
keen lichen
dude.
hats off to supergiant.
death on 10% left works even on hades. (demeter boon)
simply hats off.
high island
V-Sync synchronizes your frame rate with the refresh rate of your monitor. That entails locking your frame rate to the refresh rate of your monitor.
stoic flame
me when i refresh my monitor for victory frames
brisk trail
my system can get 120 fps but monitor is only 60 hz 😦
signal aspen
my system can get like 3 fps
keen lichen
you know what. in my next few runs i'll just get the highest rarity boon regardless. will see the outcome.
stoic flame
yeah its good
high island
I get er... 491 fps in Hades.
stoic flame
imagine
signal aspen
I get er... 491 fps in Hades.
how many frames per second is that
brisk trail
people dont recommend v sync i donna why
stoic flame
how many frames per second is that
14
signal aspen
oh nice
high island
V-Sync eliminates screen tearing, but it adds some input lag to achieve that.
manic bobcat
watch Super Hexagon speedruns and you can see why people use Vsync and why they also don't
kind pagoda
im at the hammer with aspect of luci, should i take triple beam, triple bomb or concentrated beam?
signal aspen
triple bomb
stoic flame
conc beam is also pretty good
modern garnet
triple bomb is great for lucifer because if you have more than 3 bombs, your first bomb explodes, which means that you have an extra option for detonating bombs at a distance
brisk trail
V-Sync eliminates screen tearing, but it adds some input lag to achieve that.
good for graphic heavy games, bad for fast fps then rt?
keen lichen
good for graphic heavy games, bad for fast fps then rt?
i'd say no v-sync good for no input lag. and bad because screen tear. that's really it.
calm pelican
caught a fish pretty fast but still no legendary, guess ill have to do it a lot faster
brisk trail
i have never seen input lag tho
calm pelican
the catch button is on the right but my left is more dominant hnnnnnngggggggg
brisk trail
like if i press w it moves forward
high island
Bad if you need react fast, yeah. Although modern adaptive sync can almost entirely eliminate the input lag on high refresh monitors.
signal aspen
caught a fish pretty fast but still no legendary, guess ill have to do it a lot ...
when you get a perfect catch you have a 50% chance to get a legendary fish