h1-discussion

[brisk trail]

I got that love from MegaMan X and MegaMan Zero

[keen lichen]

i loved "raiding" (and other challenging content) in action mmorpgs, but there is always the delay/lag/ping to screw your dodging over (not american).

in hades i found the best of both worlds.

[manic bobcat]

you see, i learnt the pattern, but along the way, i also learnt what i can get away with.
the result now is that i facetank bosses more often because i know i can get away with that xD

[brisk trail]

I always try to see how long I can go before taking damage

[keen lichen]

regardless of how much health i have, though, if it's possible to "no-hit" a game, i'll always aim for that.

the glass cannon way of life.

[brisk trail]

Once I get hit I start tanking some things

[keen lichen]

best way of life.

[brisk trail]

It's always super helpful to play as if you have 1hp left regardless of.how.much you gave

[high island]

Take the Pierced Butterfly and turn on TD for some decent practice.

[brisk trail]

Have*

[keen lichen]

td?

[manic bobcat]

the donald

[signal aspen]

^^^^

[high island]

Tight Deadline.

[keen lichen]

oh yeah, once i'm done maxing keepsakes, the butterfly will be my favorite (2nd only to lady aphrodite's of course - that is so sacred it will remain untouched)

[brisk trail]

Imagine, a hades, but designed to be local mult

[keen lichen]

oooh i realize now why i don't pick aphrodite.
it' because she's too sacred for me.
so i refuse to touch her keepsake and boons for fear of defiling them.

[manic bobcat]

[keen lichen]

rofl

[high island]

You should take the on every run. She gave it to you in order for you to use it.

[brisk trail]

I usually go for the hunt goddess, can't remember her name rn

[keen lichen]

i know she wants me to have her. but i refuse. i'm unworthy.

[brisk trail]

As the first pick I mean

[high island]

As high priestess of the Temple of Aphrodite, I can assure you your interpretation is way off the mark.

[high island]

Refusing Lady Aphrodite is blasphemy.

[void vigil]

im doing bow runs with the eternal rose start rn and im on a 5 run winstreak... perhaps it is the best

[high island]

It is!

[signal aspen]

yeah i dont think that anybody has a higher streak than that

[void vigil]

especially not you

[signal aspen]

yup

[manic bobcat]

[signal aspen]

i have like a 1 win streak

[keen lichen]

lol you guys are getting wild

[void vigil]

listen i havent had a winstreak of more than 2 in a while okay im excited

20 heat hard

[keen lichen]

back when i started, when i had to try like 10 times before my first successful escape attempt (which felt so hard i thought i finished the game), even a "2" win streak was unthinkable

i think my best is 7 now

but i'm not actually aiming for it, since i always, always, blow up builds to fulfill prophecies

getting weird hammers and boons etc

until i'm finished with the prophecies i'm just trying to learn the fights and do the best i can with what i end up with

[void vigil]

my best is 18

[high island]

See? Best keepsake.

https://i.imgur.com/XzfawNo.png

[keen lichen]

is times used = encounters with it equipped? or times it was "picked" (before start or between biomes)?

[high island]

That's 1100 runs with the .

[signal aspen]

nice

[keen lichen]

ok i don't wanna commit blasphemy here, but your win rate with the pom blossom and bone hourglass is higher

i mean clears / times used.

27.27...% win rate with the rose.

77.32% hourglass
67.31% pom

[high island]

Runs that make it to a point where I can switch keepsakes are naturally more likely to succeed.

[keen lichen]

understood.

[frozen granite]

will daedalus hammer mess up the no boon trinket ?

[high island]

No.

[signal aspen]

no

[manic bobcat]

no

[signal aspen]

bruh

[frozen granite]

noice

[unborn remnant]

[keen lichen]

it won't 😄

[rapid forum]

in my second to last run

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/817270982191874081/862365514914463755/unknown.png

[signal aspen]

F

[keen lichen]

i haven't gotten that achievement yet

didn't have the balls yet

[rapid forum]

I already got the achievement

beforehand

lol

[keen lichen]

talking about achievements. i only did one run with the armored perks. and i got the slashed benefits prophecy fulfilled.

[brisk trail]

Stupid poison rats

[shut forge]

facts

worst things in life

[brisk trail]

I die to those guys more than any other enemy

Including bosses

Just that level in particular has killed me more than anything else ;.;

[keen lichen]

poison is the only real threat in satyr levels

[brisk trail]

Everything else is semi easy tbh, as long as you don't act stupid and stuff I can generally clear it decent, but as soon as the poison gets thrown everywhere I end up dyinf

I say semi easy becuase if you aren't paying attention and actually play intelligent and patient, you can generally get through without much issue

[keen lichen]

poison denies too much area sometimes

[brisk trail]

I found out you can stand in it for like a split second before the poison takes effect

Made it a little easier

[keen lichen]

@high island who does the VA for dusa?

[brisk trail]

She's adorable, one of my favorites, I'd love to know as well

[keen lichen]

alright.

looked it up.

i'll have to bow to courtney

she does aphrodite and dusa.

[brisk trail]

Oh really?

Two opposites

[keen lichen]

on shyness, yes.

[brisk trail]

Yeah

I absolutely love the deflect dash, my god

[keen lichen]

i haven't looked it up, but i still hope there's a way to give dusa a body, even if temporarily.

maybe a dusa dlc lol

[brisk trail]

It's easy, just add two letters

[high island]

Lady Aphrodite.

[keen lichen]

yeah. i guess i became a fan.

[high island]

Good.

[keen lichen]

lol

[brisk trail]

Hey, what dash perk is your favorite?

Asking everyone here rn

[manic bobcat]

Hunter Dash

[tropic vapor]

ares dash or hunter dash dont really like divine dash cause its op

[brisk trail]

I always go with either divine dash, (I think that's the deflect dash, still not great with the names yet), posidens dash, or the wine dudes dash

[high island]

Passion Dash, of course.

[tropic vapor]

hi water stater buddy :3

[brisk trail]

But I always prefer divine

I can use it for stun lock combos

And deflect stuff too

[tropic vapor]

wine dude = dionysussy

[brisk trail]

Loo

Lol*

[brisk trail]

Is it op?

[tropic vapor]

well not op but its just really really strong

• i like bigger damage numbers

especially when you get both ares T2

[brisk trail]

I love the deflect, and I believe it stuns enemies slightly

[tropic vapor]

which pulls enemies in and makes the blade bigger and when you get legendary ares boon it gets really fun

[brisk trail]

I haven't gotten any legondarys I don't think, as far as I can recall... Perhaps the hammer has given me a few but

[tropic vapor]

i can see why people love the deflect it is a really useful ability afterall

[brisk trail]

I don't often pay attention to the rarity, just the effect

[tropic vapor]

i mean if you count the poseidon fishing one i have

but its kinda really bad

[brisk trail]

Why cant I stun lock bosses lmao

spams uppercut aggressively

[tropic vapor]

oh yeah whats your fav weapon?

[brisk trail]

Shield

Beyond a shadow of a doubt the shield

[tropic vapor]

i recently tried fighting charon with the shield

did not go well

[brisk trail]

And it's not even becuase I can block everything

[manic bobcat]

Hey hey

[brisk trail]

I just love how it feeks

[tropic vapor]

the shield does play really well in my op

[brisk trail]

Though I just admit, the blocking is amazing

[tropic vapor]

which aspect do you use?

if you use any

[brisk trail]

I just got zues, and I love it, tbh normal shield I never use special

Unless I'm comboing

[tropic vapor]

same

[brisk trail]

I hate how I can't do anything when I throw it tbh

[tropic vapor]

i got the special deflects attacks on the aspect of zeus yesterday and it was really good

[brisk trail]

So I often only use it for stun on multiple enemies on mult combos

I haven't played with zeus much tbh

[tropic vapor]

if the enemies werent already dead when they attacked it would deflect and kill them

[brisk trail]

Only two runs

[tropic vapor]

i havent played much shield at all

[brisk trail]

If I wanna be serious and go as far as possible I use shield

[tropic vapor]

just cause im going for aspect 4 of the shield next is why im starting it

[brisk trail]

I loved when my bull rush charge deflected, and sitting there blocking deflected

[tropic vapor]

for me its a mix of railgun and aspect of arthur for stygius

[brisk trail]

Idk how I got that tbh

The railgun is kinda meh to me, it's fun it's just not my kinda weapon

I hate it's special

[karmic hare]

And Pirozui began to wonder if he should change his pfp to squirtle his favourite starter

[brisk trail]

I usually try to play fast and constantly doing something, I feel the special on the railgun slows me down massivly

[tropic vapor]

do it. now.

[unborn remnant]

not a water starter atm but

hi :)

[tropic vapor]

but hey

you're morgana

so its fine

[unborn remnant]

🤝

based piplup

[manic bobcat]

If we have squirtle we have gen 1, 3, 4, 5 starters.

[tropic vapor]

totodile bad

thats mainly the only one i dont like

greninja is overrated

[prisma wind]

I fail to see what this has to do with Hades

[brisk trail]

Got my Third dd

[manic bobcat]

We are debating which starter can survive in the Lethe

[tropic vapor]

oops my bad

[high island]

They're Hades players, so... there is some connection.

[brisk trail]

Hades obviously wants a water starter that's what it has to do with it

Lol jk

[tropic vapor]

yoo?? dbfz player?

[brisk trail]

Tourn player in fact

[tropic vapor]

nice!

back on hades

anyone have any clue what aspect of bewulf does?

[manic bobcat]

What's up with people playing FGs and Hades

There's like a decent overlap on this server

[tropic vapor]

hey you play terraria too

[high island]

Probably best to not keep going off-topic when wightfyre already said something.

[brisk trail]

Idk

[tropic vapor]

you have a point

[manic bobcat]

I mean this is discussing Hades in relation to fgs

[prisma wind]

Probably better suited to #video-games

[manic bobcat]

Alrighty

[manic bobcat]

It's a Hera bow

But Shield

[modern garnet]

also the bullrush is wider

[unreal atlas]

Bull Rush is wider specifically when it's Dragon Rush

[tropic vapor]

so the bullrush gets wider and you charge cast stones into it

[brisk trail]

Oh?

[modern garnet]

well, when you level it up

[brisk trail]

Ngl I got super confused for a sec

[unreal atlas]

I think only the empowered rush is wider.

[brisk trail]

I qant

Want

[karmic hare]

We now have squirtle

I am not good at discord pfp changing or cropping

[manic bobcat]

Anyhow, Hades

[kind pagoda]

im at daedalus with the aspect of zeus, should i take pulv blow or empowering flight? first boon in the run

[manic bobcat]

What's your third?

[kind pagoda]

dashing wallop

[manic bobcat]

[kind pagoda]

does the "hitting twice" thing work with the special?

[karmic hare]

EMP flight for zeus right

[kind pagoda]

oh no

[karmic hare]

No

[kind pagoda]

it's only the atk

[karmic hare]

Read EMP flight to me please

[kind pagoda]

After your Special hits, your next 2 Attacks deal **+80%**damage.

[manic bobcat]

It's fine to take Flight I think

[kind pagoda]

yea

[manic bobcat]

Just make sure you position correctly

[kind pagoda]

like constant atk buff

[manic bobcat]

I think it's only once for each time you recall

But I might be wrong

[signal aspen]

Yeah

[high island]

Pulverizing Blow is great on Zeus Aspect.

[hollow hawk]

empowering flight is better though

Since you'll be special'ing a lot

[unreal atlas]

Beyblade just hits a lot. It's basically 100% uptime.

[high island]

I don't agree.

[manic bobcat]

It's per cast/recall apparently

So not quite 100% uptime

[high island]

It only works for the first hit any time you Special.

And it's +80% additive bonus damage. Pulverizing Blow is straight up double base damage.

[unreal atlas]

Okay, so nowhere near as good as it looks on Zeus then.

[hollow hawk]

actually

yeah

[karmic hare]

Special attack dash attack special

[hollow hawk]

Im dumb

I misremembered pulv blow lol

[karmic hare]

This with explosive return and empowering flight

[humble aspen]

nossa

É o server mesmo dos caras kkkk

[karmic hare]

Then again pulv would still be better

[hollow hawk]

uh english only please

[humble aspen]

:(

[karmic hare]

A server of 2 faces ?

[hollow hawk]

actually wait do the rules even say that its english only

[humble aspen]

No

Kkkk

Of the supergiant

[hollow hawk]

But eitherway more people will understand you in english

[humble aspen]

I can not speak English :(

[karmic hare]

What do you mean by

Nossa and a server of 2 faces

Yo puedo translar un poco

[humble aspen]

your translator must have translated wrong guys are people in my language

[manic bobcat]

Hola como estas

Anyway, do you have like a question?

[humble aspen]

Me?

[karmic hare]

No a hablado en unos anyos

O capas que no estás hablando en espaniol e estás hablando en un lengua differente

[humble aspen]

Yes

[karmic hare]

Whoops

[humble aspen]

Is brazilian linguage

Portuguese

[karmic hare]

Yo hablo español Uruguayo

[humble aspen]

Cool

[karmic hare]

En el norte de Uruguay hablan portugués pero yo no hablo

Chau

[humble aspen]

Cool

I have a question

[karmic hare]

Que es/ what is it

[humble aspen]

it is possible to make a hades in nordic or egyptian mythology

like a franchise but in several mythologies

[karmic hare]

Probalmente sí pero supergiant games no asen serías ya normalmente es un juego después un juego differente / probably yes but supergiant games does not do series often, usually they do one game then a different game

[humble aspen]

ok thanks man

[karmic hare]

No problem / denada

[humble aspen]

I wanted this idea to reach someone in the company but I find it difficult

[unborn remnant]

You know portugese?

[karmic hare]

He speaks Portuguese

[unborn remnant]

or was that google translate

@karmic hare

[karmic hare]

Im speaking Uruguayan Spanish and English both so that he understands

[humble aspen]

Google translate

[karmic hare]

I speak Spanish yes

[modern garnet]

the team tends to avoid doing the same thing multiple times

also, i think it would get pretty repetitive after a while

[karmic hare]

Yup

[humble aspen]

oh but it would be different

can be like a god of war

[unborn remnant]

thats sick

[humble aspen]

but it can also be a Dlc

[karmic hare]

One of the easiest to learn, use Duolingo If you want to give it a try

[humble aspen]

Yes

[unborn remnant]

I havent used spanish in years

[humble aspen]

Its realy similar to my lenguage

[karmic hare]

My mum speaks Portuguese and I know a few people who speak Portuguese, it's very similar

[humble aspen]

Yes

Spanish is a much more useful language than mine unfortunately I can only speak Portuguese

[karmic hare]

If you got to a Spanish speaking country and speak Portuguese you would be fine

Many would understand what you say if they try

[humble aspen]

cool man

[keen lichen]

holy mother

twin shot (first time) and point blank shot

is sick

[karmic hare]

Shotgun bow

[keen lichen]

yeah. i had the option but picked something else because of prophecies.

this time the hammers were all mine

[karmic hare]

Even better with explosive shot

[keen lichen]

man, i really need to reevaluate my judgements

[humble aspen]

Monkey are a supergiant member😳

[karmic hare]

No

[humble aspen]

monkeys are from 2077

[keen lichen]

i always saw demeter as the "dot stacks" guy

but the +damage in the cloud thing

[karmic hare]

Red name for supergiant

[humble aspen]

ah thanks

[keen lichen]

i have no idea what you guys are saying

[karmic hare]

We are speaking English right now

[humble aspen]

it would be fun for a monkey to be from the XDcompany

[keen lichen]

red name for supergiant?

[karmic hare]

Your name is green

[keen lichen]

oh got it

he thought i was a dev

[karmic hare]

Yuo

[keen lichen]

i'm not. new player in fact.

[humble aspen]

Yes

[keen lichen]

getting amazed by everything.

[humble aspen]

Google translate

[keen lichen]

also. back to dyonisius.

[humble aspen]

Monkey drip🥶🥶🥶

[keen lichen]

i'm being flooded with dyonisius and demeter boons. no idea why.
game is probably throwing at me every dyonisius/demeter boon i turned away

[karmic hare]

Careful in this channel spoilers can be shot like a banana gun

[keen lichen]

but anyway. i'm packing a serious punch.

wait. did i spoil anything?

[karmic hare]

Try #h1-for-new-players so that theirs no spoilers

[keen lichen]

wait. you're probably spoling me instead.

i'm not talking about the story. i'm talking about boons.

[karmic hare]

No I'm just warning that there are spoilers in this channel

[keen lichen]

ooh kay

[karmic hare]

And the rules say that ppl don't have to black out spoilers

[keen lichen]

understood.

[karmic hare]

Just saying because Hades is such an experience blind that I would hate for anyone to miss out on that

[humble aspen]

XD has a supergiant guy with a frog photo

[stable glen]

hey guys'

does hunters mark

[humble aspen]

Hello

[stable glen]

only add crit percentage to boons that can already crit

or does it apply to anything

once you apply the mark, I mean

[modern garnet]

all effects that add crit don't depend on other effects

you can crit on any damage on a marked enemy

[stable glen]

ty

[modern garnet]

including, like, hangover ticks

[stable glen]

so if I only have an artemis cast

would it be good to take an epic hunters mark

or reroll for support fire

I'm on achilles spear

[high island]

Explosive Return can't crit. Pretty sure everything else can.

[modern garnet]

well, do you use the cast much?

[stable glen]

pretty much

anything far away that annoys me

[karmic hare]

Hmmmmmmmmm

[stable glen]

Is it worth it if the cast is my only artemis core boon?

[high island]

It's not worth rerolling for Support Fire.

[stable glen]

aight

[modern garnet]

marking is cool and good, and you should be able to chain it across enemies once you get it

[humble aspen]

The game have a chances to get an DLC?

type in greece out of tartar

like a sequel similar to blood and wine from the witcher 3

[austere jacinth]

That's an odd comparison to draw. Still, the chance of a sequel or DLC is somewhat low. I'd love it though.

[humble aspen]

this idea should go to them

[stable glen]

how good is swift flourish on achillies?

epic swift or 3 more dashes

[signal aspen]

its not that good

take the dashes

[stable glen]

aight ty, I don't play spear much

[modern garnet]

I'm not sure it's good on any weapon tbh

[humble aspen]

I can't help you because I didn't even kill the first boss XD

I'm really bad at the game

[brisk trail]

is this the right channel for me to ask how a certain keepsake works?

[signal aspen]

yeah

[karmic hare]

If you have not gone past first boss do not worry about DLC because you have a lot of the game left

[austere jacinth]

I'd love to meet SGG's versions of Apollo and Hestia if we did get DLC.

[brisk trail]

if i equip the hermes keepsake for the first part of my run then take it off, do i keep the buffs i got?

[signal aspen]

no

same goes for thans keepsake

[humble aspen]

Yes it's cool ideas for the game, I like game development

[brisk trail]

kk thx

[manic bobcat]

if i get a dollar each time people ask for Apollo to be in the game, i would have enough money to fund the DLC itself

[austere jacinth]

True... but I still want xDD

[humble aspen]

Its a good ideia the game recives a dlc?????

[brisk trail]

Swift Strike and Flourish are great options in a world where Hyper Sprint and Greatest Reflex don't exist.

[manic bobcat]

depends on who you ask. some people want dlcs, others think the game is perfect as is

im neutral though

[austere jacinth]

I don't think the game 'needs' DLC, but I'd love more reasons to spend time in its world.

[humble aspen]

yes it really is like an expansion to make the game even better and I believe fans will like it

[brisk trail]

Swift Flourish Achilles becomes even more of a pseudodash it comes out so quickly.

imagine not wanting more hades

So here's my issue with this thread.

[hollow hawk]

im fine with whatever honestly, dlc so i can spend more time in hades, new game so i can experience even more of supergiant's genius in another world

[manic bobcat]

i mean there is an argument to be made about leaving hades as is. more contents can be put into hades 2 or something

[humble aspen]

Yes

[manic bobcat]

the game is "complete" in some sense.

[brisk trail]

If you go read the Fight Club article, you'll learn that SGG does not chase a dollar or even fan demand, they follow their muses.

[hollow hawk]

eurydice dlc confirmed then

Got it

[humble aspen]

But you can do a spin too

like doing the story of young hades

[high island]

They'll do DLC if they think they have some amazing ideas for it that they want to do. Otherwise, no.

[hollow hawk]

fighting against the titans would be interesting i suppose

[native field]

Whats the time delay for a cast crystal to pop out of an enemy

[brisk trail]

They're certainly willing to listen to player response, as they've said multiple times that it made Hades a better game, developing in EA.

[hollow hawk]

I believe by default its 10 seconds

[signal aspen]

it pops out after 15 seconds without a hermes boon or hera

[humble aspen]

I have a ideias

[hollow hawk]

hera bow and a hermes boon alters it

[humble aspen]

how can i see if they accept or not

[hollow hawk]

i don't think they're listening to fan ideas

[native field]

Huh....

[hollow hawk]

they've probably decided by now whether to do dlc or not

[native field]

and stygian soul regenerates it after 5 seconds?

with no pick up required

[karmic hare]

#ask-supergiant but it is turned off right now

[hollow hawk]

3 if you have it upgraded

[brisk trail]

Stygian Soul doesn't make it leave enemies sooner.

[hollow hawk]

oh wait yeah

[brisk trail]

It makes you regen another Bloodstone.

[hollow hawk]

stygian just regenerates it

[native field]

yeah but like thats arguably an advantage

[austere jacinth]

This, I believe. They may have an idea they're working on now that's totally unrelated to Hades. I'll probably buy it, though I'm more inclined to be excited towards Hades-related projects. I have faith that whatever SGG do, it'll be worth checking out.

[hollow hawk]

it is in some cases

[brisk trail]

It's why you'll see enemies with like 12 Bloodstones in some screencaps.

[humble aspen]

Can't get in touch with a team member?

[brisk trail]

They're working on their stuff internally right now.

I'm sure they'll be more willing to listen to suggestions when they ask for them, but right now it's their show.

[high island]

I've loved their games since Bastion. I'd pre-rder their next project right now if I could.

[manic bobcat]

You can ping an SGG staff if needed, though people usually don't.

[high island]

And I have no idea what it's gonna be.

[high island]

They have a contact form on their website.

[hollow hawk]

i dont know if I'd preorder blindly, but I would definitely play their next project

[manic bobcat]

It's a F2P mobile game

With gacha elements

[modern garnet]

there's 20 thousand people in this server online right now... if 1% of them wanted a chat with the devs, that would be 200 conversations

[karmic hare]

I have loved them since 1 month after Hades release and still have 2 to play which I'm excited about

[hollow hawk]

hell yeah, exactly what i wanted

[high island]

https://www.supergiantgames.com/contact/

[hollow hawk]

hades mobile

[manic bobcat]

It's called Myth: Gods of Asgard

[brisk trail]

zagreus summoning event coming out when?

[hollow hawk]

what

[manic bobcat]

Can't believe Hades copy a mobile game

[signal aspen]

yeah

why would they do that

[manic bobcat]

Do you really not know?

[stoic flame]

what a shameful act by hades

copying my favourite game?

[humble aspen]

Thanks :)

[manic bobcat]

Indeed

[stoic flame]

myth really needs recognition

[manic bobcat]

Imagine stealing from a HK dev

[stoic flame]

smh

[humble aspen]

Yes

[manic bobcat]

The funny thing is

After Hades is so successful

[humble aspen]

It makes a game in Norse mythology

The protagonist is odin

[manic bobcat]

Allegedly the Greeks are now modeling their mythology after the game.

[stoic flame]

thor*

[humble aspen]

Yes

Good ideia

[stoic flame]

ah yes

[humble aspen]

Thor

[hollow hawk]

well myths do get shaped by folklore so

[stoic flame]

._.

this game was based on the myths

[humble aspen]

the game can be set in asgard

[stoic flame]

and its not the other way round

[hollow hawk]

it was very loosely based on the myths, atleast for the main character

[plush dock]

what, really?

[humble aspen]

Or an a egyptian mitology

[hollow hawk]

They found a gap there, about zagreus, who wasnt very detailed, so they put their own spin on his story

[manic bobcat]

Yeah

[signal aspen]

true

[brisk trail]

Stupid spear sniping me while I'm playing with my bull fren

[stoic flame]

this is the same kind of stuff like disney is sueing norse people for making loki stuff even tho its their mythology

[manic bobcat]

I read the wiki and apparently Zeus is some kind of deity in Greek culture

It's wild.

[signal aspen]

yeah

[hollow hawk]

woah

[plush dock]

very big gods with grayish skinn hades with a long mustache and stuff?

[humble aspen]

can also move in egypt

[stoic flame]

mind blown

[karmic hare]

I will make this true by changing my nationality to Greek, moving to Greece, become a famous statue maker, making a statue of everything in hades and then calling it mythology

[signal aspen]

they even made hades from the game hades into a real thing

[stoic flame]

i cant believe hades got so famous they made gods into a real thing

[manic bobcat]

Ikr

[signal aspen]

its so crazy

[plush dock]

i'm gonna tell my kids people worshipped this game

[manic bobcat]

Anyway, I can't wait to see what life changing games they will make next

Maybe Transistor would come true

[stoic flame]

they might just make a roman game

then they will make jesus real

[manic bobcat]

A post apocalyptic dystopia

[stoic flame]

because the game will be so influential

[manic bobcat]

Where people preserve their lives only in the cyber space

[stoic flame]

supergiant games can single handedly change cultures

[manic bobcat]

Wait no that gets too close to home

[karmic hare]

If I had to choose a religion I would worship SGG

[manic bobcat]

Abort abort

[humble aspen]

Making a game in Norse mythology can work very well, with the name of, mjölnir

[stoic flame]

they can morph people's believes

[stoic flame]

again

myth

[humble aspen]

Thor? Is a god

[manic bobcat]

Yes, but blatantly stealing assets and contributing next to zero original idea is not.

[stoic flame]

myth just doesnt get enough recognition smh

they literally copied nyx

[manic bobcat]

In case it isn't clear, we don't appreciate Myth around here.

[stoic flame]

didnt even make an effort to change anything

or even redraw

[manic bobcat]

Which is funny because I brought it up.

[stoic flame]

just straight up dumped it in

[manic bobcat]

Maybe I am the villain all along

[humble aspen]

No

Its an a hack and slash in asgard

[stoic flame]

maniac laughing sounds can be heard

in a distance

[humble aspen]

the protagonist would be which god then?

[keen lichen]

do we have streamers among us?

[stoic flame]

what are you talking about

[stoic flame]

sus.

[signal aspen]

amogus?

[stoic flame]

amogus.

[karmic hare]

Amongbus

[manic bobcat]

Are we talking Myth or another hypothetical Hades but set in Norse mythos?

[humble aspen]

USU

[stoic flame]

^

i have the same doubt

my typos are really wildin today

[manic bobcat]

Yes. Haelian is here. Plenty of speedrunners are here and post in #h1-high-heat-strategies.

[plush dock]

i think on self promotion

[humble aspen]

and a dlc with young hades is a bad idea?

[stoic flame]

haelian's content is good

i like

the only hades streamer i watch

[manic bobcat]

Just play Bastion bro

[hollow hawk]

id recommend joining the speedrunning server for streams, though ofcourse mostly they will be speedrunning streams, sometimes there's a fresh file or high heat stream too

You can find casual streams on twitch, just search for hades there

[humble aspen]

Ué mas com outra história

[high island]

You can find some streams in #self-promotion. A lot of the players on the high heat leaderboard that's pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies are also streamers.

[plush dock]

homie just switched to pt-br out of the blue

hey fellow br 😎

[manic bobcat]

Me no sperchen Espanol

[plush dock]

porch of geese*

[manic bobcat]

Basil

[stoic flame]

basil

[humble aspen]

thanks for the tips friends :))))

[humble aspen]

Brazil XD

[manic bobcat]

I love brazil on my pizza

[stoic flame]

same

even on my pasta

[humble aspen]

Brazil is a bad country kkkkk

[manic bobcat]

Nah

Yall have the amazon forest

[humble aspen]

unfortunately here is a very beautiful place

[manic bobcat]

Yall are cool

Dont chop it down though

[humble aspen]

but there is a lot of corruption here

[manic bobcat]

Yeah... But government is not the same as the country

Anyway

Hades

[stoic flame]

indeed

[manic bobcat]

And the Greeks

[humble aspen]

total here are very beautiful places

[frozen granite]

lmao
guan yu +80% spinning disc time +charge spin faster

is straight up cheating

i bodied that shield guy super freaking hard

[stoic flame]

nice

[frozen granite]

all i did is playing frisbee and he just died

[manic bobcat]

you bodied that guy huh 😳

[stoic flame]

lmao

[shadow kernel]

Yoooo I got sub 15 mins for the first time

14:59.92

[stoic flame]

poggers

[signal aspen]

nice

[brisk trail]

new hades enjoyer here

hi guys

[signal aspen]

hello

[shadow kernel]

Welcome

[south lagoon]

yo yo

[karmic hare]

I like Math here's my favourite math

Here is where my favourite math would go if it was not a small spoiler

[frozen granite]

lmao i bodied hades as well :v

this frisbee spear is way too OP

[karmic hare]

What's a frisbee spear

[signal aspen]

guan yu spin

[karmic hare]

Oh yeah that

[brisk trail]

I still prefer Quick/Massive Spin to Charged Skewer.

I know CS is better, I just like to spin2win.

[karmic hare]

Same

[signal aspen]

yeah charged skewer is a lot better than spin builds

[karmic hare]

Also if you get the right tempo and build you can have enough spins to regen enought damage to stand still

[brisk trail]

there is finally a place where i can talk about hades

i'm stuck in the boss of the 3 region

1v2 is not easy

[frozen granite]

i dunno

i just use the spin longer and charge faster

then i dash and spam frisbee all day

[brisk trail]

I only play with the bow

[frozen granite]

i always have like 2 frisbee out at a time

it heal me like crazy

[brisk trail]

the sword doesn't seem to deal damage

and she punishes me too much for being close to enemies

[frozen granite]

melee weapon stun harder tho

[brisk trail]

the shield i found more or less

I only have 3 unlocked weapons only

[chrome wharf]

bow is fun

First time I beat boss 3 was my 2nd run with bow ever

[signal aspen]

yeah bow is pretty fun

[oak ibex]

I think my first clear was either with the bow or spear

[shadow kernel]

I was a bow one trick and then the first time I ever used spear was my first clear lol

[south lagoon]

my first 2 are both bow. i do not have a 3rd

[signal aspen]

my first clear was with fists

[shadow kernel]

Now I play mostly bow and rail but spear has my fastest clear

[chrome wharf]

Nemesis sword for me

[shadow kernel]

Hestia rail is so fun

[south lagoon]

i still like the bow 🙏 but i try to swap around frequently

[stoic flame]

my first was with zeus shield

[chrome wharf]

welp, forgot to swap from SD to DD

[shadow kernel]

Shield ewwwe

I hate shield

[stoic flame]

bruh

[signal aspen]

shield good

[chrome wharf]

played too aggro with dad and lost for the first time in ever

I used to hate shield too

If you hate shield, play Zeus shield

[stoic flame]

zeus shield is so good

😩

[shadow kernel]

Artemis hates me I’m using hestia and 3 Artemis boons in a row I’ve been offered a special boon instead of an attack boon and I accidentally used the wrong mirror perk so I can’t reroll ;-;

[keen lichen]

roflmao

i lost it

i lost it

[shadow kernel]

I can’t stand shield for some reason

I’m really bad with it

I have 1 clear with it and I’ve not touched it since

[karmic hare]

wow ok how are you on boss 3 already with 3 weapons unlocked are you focusing mirror or do you just not have keys

[keen lichen]

just saw ||theseus|| for the first time ||laughing maniacally while shooting his machineguns and going round with his chariot||

[stoic flame]

i havent played shield in a long time

[frozen granite]

my first clear was supposed to be with sword

[stoic flame]

em3 gets so wild

[chrome wharf]

I got my first clear with only sword and bow unlocked lol

[frozen granite]

but then i got curious and clicked on the anvil icon

[stoic flame]

💀

[chrome wharf]

rip

[shadow kernel]

Extreme measures is so fun

[keen lichen]

man i completely lost it

[karmic hare]

i feel sorry for math cause there are spoilers here that look like they know it with the first black out but the second is very ahead so now i say #h1-for-new-players

[keen lichen]

thank you @high island for the suggestion

[stoic flame]

nyaanyaa really carried me with that guan yu guide

[shadow kernel]

DUDE

4 ARTEMIS BOONS IN A ROW

[stoic flame]

nice

[shadow kernel]

ALL SPECIAL NO ATTACK

WHYYYY

[signal aspen]

just reroll

[shadow kernel]

I have the wrong mirror perk equipped

;-;

[keen lichen]

if i get really bad luck i just give up

while still in tartarus. else i just keep going.

dudes. there's life outside of ares+athena.

i've been picking the gods i like less

dyonisius and demeter

and it's been nice so far.

specially on fists for quick stacks

[shadow kernel]

I’m in Elysium without an attack boon

With extreme measures on

This could be a problem

[stoic flame]

what weapon

[shadow kernel]

Hestia

[stoic flame]

☠️

shouldve gotten aphro attack

[shadow kernel]

Ok I hate this game

On my 5th Artemis boon I get an attack but it’s common

Do I even take this

[brisk trail]

of course

[shadow kernel]

Or do I just pray for aphro or something

[brisk trail]

youre in ely you need atk

rarity isnt as important as having a build in the first place

also rarity doesnt matter as much on deadly strike bc it atk% is low to begin with

[shadow kernel]

Dude

I’ve got such blessed rng this run except for that attack boon

I got a chaos boon which gives me +150% backstab damage

So I am landing crits of 2200

If only I had a better attack boon lol

[brisk trail]

ur good

just get artemis t2 stuff

No, even common Deadly Strike is very very good.

You really are just there for the crit chance.

[keen lichen]

what are the good hammers for guan yu?

spear was thirsting i decided to do a masochistic run

[signal aspen]

charged skewer, breaching skewer

quick spin, massive spin

[brisk trail]

In order: Charged Skewer, Quick Spin, Serrated Point, Massive Spin.

x.x poison

I hate with a passion

[keen lichen]

quick spin, breaching skewer, winged serpent

the options

i feel like i'll be thankful for havin gpicked breaching skewer in elysium

against shield guys etc

[shadow kernel]

Can I divorce Meg

She targeted a bomb instead of hades

[brisk trail]

oh so here is a chat with spoilers free, i will have to change chat then

I don't know the game after the boss of the 3 region and I want it to be like this

Go to #h1-for-new-players

ok, thanks

[frozen granite]

is it ok to use ambrosia to trade for titan blood ?

[high island]

Yeah.

Stronger aspects will help you get more Ambrosia and more Titan Blood.

I did that very often on my main save.

[frozen granite]

will i have enough of it to use later if i keep trading it for titan blood ?

[high island]

Yeah, definitely. There's no real use for Keys and Nectar later, so you'll just be trading those up for Ambrosia anyway.

[frozen granite]

noice

thankyou

[shadow kernel]

Oh wow

||test||

I just ||fought extreme measures hades for the first time||

That was intense

[plush dock]

nice

i haven't got to it yet

yall whats this monthly challenge anyway

[manic bobcat]

they are pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat

you can try them out

for fun

[native field]

Tbh

Horrible father's dialog seems to have grown half of a percent less terrible

And by les terrible I dont mean that his dialog isint badly written

[karmic hare]

Excuse me what the hades

Dialogue in hades is absolutely amazing

[brisk trail]

Greg is a mad genius.

[karmic hare]

Also Greek insults are so funny and strange

Like
go to the crows
That's all I know but I have no idea what it means

[native field]

I agree

What im saying is that the contets of the dialog... he seems to be half of a percet less bad at parenting

[karmic hare]

oooohhhhhh

i thought you meant that the dialogue was badly written but you meant hades is bad at parenting

i misread the second one i though you were confiming thatnyou thought the dialouge was bad but you were making sure idiots like me didn't misunderstand (you underestimate my 7 intellect(yes thats a dnd reference in a hades server sue me))

[kind pagoda]

which gods to go for with the aspect of eris?

artemis/poseidon?

[signal aspen]

Zeus attack, artemis special, Poseidon dash

[kind pagoda]

aight

what keepsake to take first?

[signal aspen]

Zeus

[kind pagoda]

thx

[lavish gyro]

Pls answer

Without further information

As just a yes or a no

Will you end up meeting the olympians

If you keep playing

[prisma rivet]

Face to face?

[lavish gyro]

Yes

After the main story

[prisma rivet]

Oh, I thought you meant in general LOL

[lavish gyro]

Nah face to face

Yes or no

[signal aspen]

No

[lavish gyro]

So you don’t fight them or any things?

Thing*?

[signal aspen]

No

[lavish gyro]

Oh

That kinda sucks tbh

Was hoping you got to beat up Zeus

I hope they make a hades 2

Where you go and fight like a rogue Zeus with the help of boons from underworld gods

And Hermes and Charon and stuff

[hollow kettle]

That’d be an interesting au

[native field]

Hey ive had a thought

if Zag isint the son of Nyx, I feel that might explain why the mirror works- cuz he dosent allready have darkness within him

[kind pagoda]

delta chamber or targeting system

?

delta chamber: burst, never reload
targeting: enemies are slower and take 30% more damage in area where you target them

uhm ig targeting sys

[river vigil]

For eris?

Me personally i take delta

[foggy orbit]

I’d say targeting, but either one can be pretty good

[river vigil]

Yeah both of them are good

[high island]

Definitely Targeting System. That's one of the best Eris hammers.

30% global damage is a lot.

[native field]

Ayy a duo boon I didint ask for

but stubborn roots, imma not complain of free HP regen

[modern garnet]

Hehe, that one is weird... either it does nothing or it saves your run

[native field]

:p, well ill probably get some use out of it because I like running lucky tooth on the last floor

So ill probably get more use out of it?

As in post-stubborn defiance death in Hades boss fight will last longer... ill see

I also have unhalthy fixation but like im not using it that much

should I sell it

[signal aspen]

Yeah do it for an achievement if you play on pc

[native field]

Ay ur right

1230 Obls

Going into satyr maze

Hm

And now im super tempted to buy titan blood

[signal aspen]

Do it

[native field]

Ok its a done

AH, it only regens HP if its really your last life, lucky tooth included

Oh well, I still have trusty ol stubborn defiance

Founbd the sack. Time to see if I can win this run

[brisk trail]

Who's ready for the new update where dora the explorer is the final boss, I hear she's ridiculously hard

[flint pollen]

Lmao cursed slash is so OP

At least seems like

[manic bobcat]

It's good starting out

But falls out of favour later on

As you get better

[flint pollen]

Due to the max health?

I mean it seems like its really OP if you can get that and athenas attack boon at the same time

[signal aspen]

It doesn't work on dash attacks which is sad

[flint pollen]

Rip

[native field]

Ok I just wanna say

stubborn roots is amazing

[flint pollen]

O h

Bruh

[signal aspen]

It's a pretty good duo

[flint pollen]

Cerberus keepsake doesnt follow the 60% health rule with that

I think xD

[native field]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/862477440650706974/unknown.png

[high island]

Because it does nothing for your DPS.

[flint pollen]

Oh fair

Yeah ig its not as good if you also like, use your special against bosses and stuff xd

With the sword i dont tend to use my special basically at all bc it takes so long to do

That i often end up taking damage while trying to do it

[high island]

Sword DPS rotation is mainly Special > Dash-Strike x2 and Cast > Dash-Strike x2.

[flint pollen]

Huh?

Doesnt it like, purely depend on your boons?

If you have a boon that boosts attack power by like 40 damage or like 70+% shouldnt that be used like all the time?

[river vigil]

nope thats the main dps for sword

[flint pollen]

If youre trying to maximize DPS shouldnt that like vastly increase it if you just maximize normal attack usage?

If you have those boons

[high island]

Your dashes have a cooldown, so you use Special or Cast inbetween. If you use a normal Attack, it prevents you from doing a Dash-Strike because instead you'll get a dash into the second hit of the normal 3-hit Attack combo.

[flint pollen]

Why is dash so important there?

[high island]

Dash-Strikes are way faster than your Attack combo.

[river vigil]

dash strikes are faster than the main combo

like u can double dash strike and then reset

and itll be super fast

[high island]

And you also add damage from your Dash boon and any Dash-Strike boons.

[flint pollen]

OK, but if the bonuses for normal attack dont apply to dash-strike shouldnt that make normal attacks have higher DPS?

[high island]

No.

[flint pollen]

Wtf

[river vigil]

nope

[flint pollen]

Why?

[river vigil]

again dash strikes are faster

and you put special or cast before them

[high island]

Because they're too low to keep up with Dash-Strike DPS.

[flint pollen]

Even with the upgrades?

Thats insane

I always figured dash strikes are like WAY slower in all weapons because i thought there has to be some punishment for it

[high island]

Attack boons also apply to your Dash-Strikes, anyway. And the Attack hammers that don't affect Dash-Strikes are entirely irrelevant at high level sword play.

[flint pollen]

Oh i thought they didnt apply to your dash strikes

Bruh

Yeah then it makes sense

I thought they only applied to your non dash attacks

[high island]

The "punishment" is that Dash-Strikes don't have i-frames, and your dashes are constantly on cooldown.

[flint pollen]

Ok

[high island]

It's easy to be too aggressive and throw a run that way even for very good players.

[flint pollen]

Yeah fair

[high island]

Sword speedruns often end with no DDs and low HP lol.

And sword high heat is hard.

[craggy tundra]

I beat the base game!

Wow

[high island]

You got to the credits?

[native field]

Man I'm happy I have a gamer mouse

so I can bind 3 buttons to my mouse so its not akward for my left hand

[signal aspen]

Bruh just use your feet

[native field]

You know, stubborn defiance is kinda really usefull if you recognise sometimes its free healing if you let yourself die

[river vigil]

yep thats why people use them in high heat

[native field]

Especially if you have the charon shop item that increases HP recovered from it

[river vigil]

youre most likely to die in normal encounters than bosses

[craggy tundra]

I did!

Question - does the painting in Hades room change depending on what weapon you used to beat the base game?

Because it has the spear I used in it

[signal aspen]

No

Also it would be weird if zag was just holding a gun in a family photo

[native field]

dang im gitting gud

[craggy tundra]

I mean, that'd be hilarious

[native field]

im allready past elysium again

and this build is pretty dope

[craggy tundra]

Just....a random gun

[signal aspen]

Lmao

[craggy tundra]

Everyone else very nice and greek - and then Zag with a gun

[stuck sentinel]

the zag blaster

[native field]

Dont forget

Theseus gets a tank

[craggy tundra]

God, I refuse to do that level

[stuck sentinel]

technically its not a tank

[craggy tundra]

refuse

[stuck sentinel]

its a macedonian chariot

that theseus constantly whines about me breaking

[native field]

with a machinegun

[stuck sentinel]

you dont have a chariot with a machine gun?

[native field]

if I rtemember seeing that correclt

[manic bobcat]

what do you mean ancient greek doesn't have a machine gun

or carpet bombing

for that matter

[signal aspen]

He also shoots rockets

[native field]

Ofc

[craggy tundra]

All chariots should have machine guns in

[stuck sentinel]

ok so if there was a dlc

therse a bunch of things i want

[native field]

Also , I think I might be on track for getting my first non exagryph win

[stuck sentinel]

but one of the more " simpler " ones

[manic bobcat]

is apollo

it's apollo isn't it

[stuck sentinel]

would be adding more variations to the current bosses

also apollo

[signal aspen]

And also all minotaurs should have suits of golden armor and a rocket axe

[stuck sentinel]

and hestia

[manic bobcat]

lmao

[native field]

Hera

[stuck sentinel]

hestia should like set people on fire

[native field]

Dont forget Hera

[stuck sentinel]

nah heras annoying

[native field]

I mean

[craggy tundra]

I wouldn't mind Hera

[stuck sentinel]

apollo gives poison? idk

[native field]

when Zeus is your husbamd

[stuck sentinel]

ok but what the heck does hera give

[signal aspen]

That's just dio

[native field]

Good question

[stuck sentinel]

yeah so idk what apollo does

maybe healing

[native field]

though I think hera is like Godess of statecraft

So she isint lacking in the power dept

[stuck sentinel]

stateraft?

[native field]

fixed the typo

statecraft

[manic bobcat]

I read that as Starcraft and I was ready to pog

[signal aspen]

Minecraft

[stuck sentinel]

i thought shes like god of marriage or summit

[signal aspen]

Yeah

[stuck sentinel]

apollo could give like music boons

where if you match the rhythim you deal extra damage

just turns game into guitar hero

[native field]

Iirc she also somewhat gets statecraft or whatever

[signal aspen]

SGG should make a rhythm game and call it "Apollo"

[plush dock]

apolo turns you into a bard, you cant do damage anymore but you get buffs

and then you die

[native field]

Wait

You guys are forgetting like

Haphestus

[stuck sentinel]

hephaestus is dope

[native field]

Yeah he would do something with hammers

[stuck sentinel]

he should just give more daedalus hammers or something

or the hammers you have

[native field]

Well not just

[stuck sentinel]

are stronger

like hermes

so each run

its random whether you get hermes or hephaestus

[native field]

maybe like hes categorised not in the same pool as the other gods, so like Hermes, but he gives like general weapon improvment boons

And that can change depending on the weapon your using

so like Exagryph: more ammo space boon or smthin

[stuck sentinel]

thats already kinda what hammers tho

and there is a hammer like that for exagryph

tbh i dont think theres much more they can add godwise

[native field]

Ok I cant handle this anymore

àwhat the heck is the use of those poison curing wells if you get cured of poison anyways and cant use them when in combat

[modern garnet]

You can use them in combat

Sometimes you can't use them if there's an enemy too close to it, but the range on that is really low

[plush dock]

i asked abt him yesterday hehe

stan hephestus hes a cinnamon roll

[stuck sentinel]

like we already have
dio - Poison
art - Crits
aphro - Big bonks, health
dem - Slowing people down, heals
zeus - Splash damage
pos - Knockback
Ares - Damage? he does things
Hermes - Speed
Athena - Staying alive

im forgetting someone

who am i forgetting?

[plush dock]

athena

prevents you from taking damage

i also stan athena

[native field]

And I guess chaos, kinda, not really

[plush dock]

well you can tell by the way i use my walk i'm a woman's man, no time to talk

[stuck sentinel]

not a main god

[native field]

Yeah but it is a boon

[stuck sentinel]

and he doesent have a domain

[native field]

it has the boon gold circle and orbà

[plush dock]

ha ha ha ha staying alive

[stuck sentinel]

stayin alive, stayin alive

but coming back to extra variations of fights

so theres multiple ways they might do this

like

so maybe when you have em3 on

its a chance whether you get theseus + asterius, or like hercules

lernie could be replaced by some sort of dragon

idk might be cool

[native field]

Ok, non Exagryph final boss attempt, wish me luck

[manic bobcat]

good luvk

[stuck sentinel]

good luck

my other idea

was like a level after styx

which you have to unlock

[native field]

Argh

Whyyyy