h1-discussion

[green maple]

Eh

[hollow hawk]

Especially zeus and ares vengeance boons

[viscid cape]

Ehh

[green maple]

But you have to take dmg

[viscid cape]

I like demeters it is pretty good

[hollow hawk]

yeah and you will be taking dmg most of the time lol

demeters doesn't deal much dmg, only freezes them

[viscid cape]

Ares is also pretty nice

[hollow hawk]

Zeus does the maximum dps

[green maple]

Oh

[hollow hawk]

You can literally kill the furies with just epic zeus vengeance and nothing else

[viscid cape]

Well on high heat i dont really like speedy guys

[hollow hawk]

You dont even need to attack them

[green maple]

I ALSO WANT TO TRY A BLADE RIFT BUILD

[viscid cape]

Freezing them will slow them down

[green maple]

But i never know how to properly build one

[hollow hawk]

Demeter is a pretty bad god to pick on high heat lol

[viscid cape]

Its fun as heck

[hollow hawk]

she has a lot of boons that just straight up dont work

[viscid cape]

I dont get to choose

[hollow hawk]

because of lasting consequences 4

Which is a staple in high heat

[hollow hawk]

Go for it on achilles

[green maple]

Achilles?

Uhhh i never spear

[hollow hawk]

Spear aspect

[green maple]

Its just

[viscid cape]

Spear

[green maple]

Too bad for me

[hollow hawk]

Achilles is the good spear

Trust me i used to hate spear too

[viscid cape]

Max it out it is crazy

[green maple]

Hhhhhh

How do i use it tho

[viscid cape]

That damage boost is super good

[hollow hawk]

Special and then let your blade rifts go

On achilles atleast

[green maple]

Ooo?

[hollow hawk]

And you get 150% more dmg on the bladerifts

At max level achilles

[viscid cape]

Get hermes legendary too

Its really good

[green maple]

Never had a hermes legendary or i dont remember what it was

Probs the latter

[viscid cape]

There are 2

[hollow hawk]

If you really wanna high roll, go for stygian cast in the mirror and try to get extra casts from chaos

[viscid cape]

Nvm 3

[hollow hawk]

But stygian will be pretty bad if you dont get extra casts from chaos early on

[viscid cape]

Arties fully loaded

[hollow hawk]

Infernal is a safer play

Fully loaded is really hard especially when you're going for hunting blades

Which you obviously should be on a a bladerift build

[hollow hawk]

No, theres 2

[viscid cape]

I like stygian soul more

[hollow hawk]

Greater recall on infernal soul, your casts return to you automatically

[green maple]

Huh

[hollow hawk]

And bad news on stygian, you get +50% dmg on your cast when your cast isnt already lodged into an enemy

[green maple]

Wh

[hollow hawk]

And since it isnt lodged in when you have a bladerift, its just free +50% dmg on your cast

lodged means when its like in the enemy

[viscid cape]

Just get hermes legend smh

[green maple]

Yeah

Hhhhhh i have so much to try out

Only if i had time

[hollow hawk]

yes!

You do

[viscid cape]

No life the game

[green maple]

LMAO

[viscid cape]

Dont touch grass at all

[hollow hawk]

anyway im gonna head out now

Cya'll

[viscid cape]

It isnt that important ne way

[green maple]

Thanks for all the builds

[viscid cape]

Ciao

Np Noxy

[hollow hawk]

Ping me anytime you want some more, or just send a message in this channel or in #h1-builds-and-combat and other people with will be willing to help ya out

[green maple]

Thankssss

[buoyant merlin]

[craggy vapor]

Has there been any confirmation of Dusa being Medusa or is it all just speculations?

[manic bobcat]

it's Maid Dusa

[oak ibex]

Okay, but as an English major and overall literary nerd who grew up on loving Greek mythology, I am so excited for this. Who else is planning to watch?
https://twitter.com/Kotaku/status/1400850727015092230?s=19

Kotaku (@Kotaku)

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[hollow hawk]

The codex entry for her contains a hint

so its intentional

[hollow hawk]

ooh the illiad project by wriste, yeah thats amazing

I wish i could tune in

its too late in the night for me

[oak ibex]

I didn't hear about the Iliad Project until today. I wish I could have joined myself, as I also love performative reading (being a former theater kid and all, haha). I wonder if there are similar projects like this in the works.

[hollow hawk]

You can listen to the audiobook after its released on a lot of platforms lol

I think the VOD of the livestream unveil will be on wriste's youtube channel too, thats where ill be watching it

[oak ibex]

Oh yeah, I know about the audiobook coming out, since it was also mentioned in the article: I am quite excited.

[hollow hawk]

The livestream will also have a 10minute intro from greg, the writer of hades (and other sgg games)

[oak ibex]

This is so exciting for me oh my god

[delicate ember]

ahh the bow feels so unnatural

[viscid cape]

Really? I love the bow

I think its the easiest to use

[alpine meteor]

To me, I like the bow if I'm using an attack build. If I'm not using the aspect of Chiron, any special build just feels clunky to me. The bow is pretty easy to use nonetheless.

[delicate ember]

ok i have now beat hades with all weapons with at least 1 heat

pog

im doing a guan yu 63 heat suicide run

down to 5 health, in the entrance room

ok im already dead

[opal talon]

[viscid cape]

I was cucked by artemis

I needed fully loaded

But whatever i can live with 8 casts

It is an alright supply

[faint flint]

how do you do those moonwalk like moves

where you can punch one direction but be moving backwards

[viscid cape]

Zag man was schmoovin

[faint flint]

yeah

i saw streamers do it

but i cant ever pull it off

[half zephyr]

do you have an example?

[viscid cape]

No clue

I never heard of it

I know zagreus kicks back because of the cast

[half zephyr]

knockback might do the same

[faint flint]

its like where you can be attacking one way but be moving backwards

[half zephyr]

and I know I move in odd ways when I do my dash-strike moves back & forth to not get hit

[viscid cape]

Duddeee my 8 cast run with hera and Dios cast was saucy

I had lightning rod for the heck of it and Zues+Dio duo

[half zephyr]

yes, but do you have video example?

[faint flint]

not atm

ill have to fund a stream with it haha

[half zephyr]

I've discovered that I keep making after images when I fight on my lite - cuz dodge runs w ruthless & all - so I'm gonna have to stop being distracted by that

it's so fun seeing multple zags

but I really gotta focus on fighting lol

[viscid cape]

Ruthless dodge runs are fun

[half zephyr]

I didn't used to do it

but then I wanted to try it & what better way then to have Baby file try it out

not like I had more then 1 dash for long there

much easier to get used to

[viscid cape]

Dude i tried a fresh file run and it really hurt me

I am carried hard by the mirror

[half zephyr]

it's not fresh file

it's baby file

[viscid cape]

?

[half zephyr]

I didn't beat Hades until 11th run

[viscid cape]

Ohhh thats what u mean

[half zephyr]

it's just me doing a baby file cuz I wanted to have fun from the start again

and play on my lite when my switch is out of power

and I have the physical copy so I didn't really have much of a choice

[viscid cape]

Man

I need that physical copy in my life

[half zephyr]

I have digital copy on my main switch & I got the physical for use on my lite =w=

[viscid cape]

How many hours do u have in the game?

[half zephyr]

not that many

still under 200 I think

I don't play too often, just now & then

got too many games

and I like to read

[viscid cape]

Ikr i got like 6 games on my backlog

[half zephyr]

so few

[viscid cape]

(On my switch alone)

[half zephyr]

yes, so few

[viscid cape]

Damn

[half zephyr]

on my switch

[viscid cape]

👀 how much

[half zephyr]

counting

over 70

I didn't count the sequel games

my nephew keeps telling me I have too many games on my switch

it's fun to go back & play hades tho

just plain fun

[rotund juniper]

Unlocked nemesis blade recently, just wow at how fast things go!

Was especially a good build with deflection on the attack

With the slow down effect

[simple thistle]

Deflection with attack is usually always good with any weapon

[half zephyr]

I’d rather not have it on fists

If I had to have it at all

I like my lightning punches

[simple thistle]

fists more like worse aspect of arthur

[crude surge]

Friendship ended with fists

[half zephyr]

What

[simple thistle]

this post was made by aspect of arthur gang

[half zephyr]

Fists be fast

[modern garnet]

Deflect feels like a bit of a crutch to me... anything I deflect I could have dodged

[simple thistle]

in the time you kill with fists, you will already kill 3 enemies with arthur tbh

[crude surge]

Yeah but then you have to fight BP2 witches and deflect is real nice

[simple thistle]

they take about the same time but arthur has a lot of range

[half zephyr]

I like Arthur too, but I’m way faster with fists

[simple thistle]

same

fists are usually my 2nd pick when i dont feel like playing with the blade

[half zephyr]

It’s my first pick

[simple thistle]

that or chiron

[modern garnet]

You can go incredibly fast with fists with the right boons

[half zephyr]

Max zag fist + plume

So much fun

[crude surge]

ME go brr

[simple thistle]

lol i got 60% faster movement speed last run

[half zephyr]

I haven’t had ME on fists yet

I tend to go lightning fist cuz I actively avoid Athena

[crude surge]

why

[simple thistle]

????

w

why

[half zephyr]

I don’t want deflect

It’s boring

[simple thistle]

why not

divine dash is so good lol

[half zephyr]

No

[modern garnet]

I never get hit by projectiles anyway

[simple thistle]

best dash in the game imo

[half zephyr]

It’s just weak but deflects

And I don’t need deflect

So why would I go for a weak dash?

[simple thistle]

i dont think you know its true power but i respect your opinion

[modern garnet]

Divine dash is a little baby compared to splash dash

[half zephyr]

Ye

[modern garnet]

It feels cool to deflect all of the hydras waves back at them but then what

Then you're in elysium.... can't deflect a butterfly can ya?

[robust scaffold]

doesnt deflect work on butterflies

[simple thistle]

you can dash through the butterflies lol

doesnt reflect but it erases them

[modern garnet]

You can dash through the butterflies with literally any dash

No wait not hunter dash

[half zephyr]

In the time I took deflecting I could’ve attacked & killed

[robust scaffold]

yea deflect works on it so it removes them

[half zephyr]

Just splash

[simple thistle]

divine dash carried my 34 heat run

[half zephyr]

Or zap

And in comes the high heat

[simple thistle]

i didnt mean it that way lol

[modern garnet]

Divine dash isn't bad and obviously you can win with it

[simple thistle]

i suck at the game, just got really lucky

[half zephyr]

I never said it was outright bad either

I did however say it was boring

And I wanna have fun

[modern garnet]

If I was running a build where I was getting hit by projectiles a lot I would get divine dash... but that doesn't really happen to me

[half zephyr]

And then there’s me who runs BP2 cuz it’s fun

I like being surprised by effects

[crude surge]

exept clone

all my homies hate clones

[half zephyr]

I love them all

Including seeker witches & teleporting speeding flame wheels

[simple thistle]

i like having EM3, middle management and the armored enemies one on

[crude surge]

hes a madman

[modern garnet]

Even when I'm in MM witches circle it doesn't hurt bad enough to warrant a divine dash

[simple thistle]

seeing all of the unique changes and abilities is really fun

[half zephyr]

I like EM3, BP2 & MM

And now with FO too

It’s so slow w/o FO

[simple thistle]

i still remember the first time i saw a giant rat with BP2

[modern garnet]

EM3, MM feels like the way the game was meant to be played

[crude surge]

yeah

[half zephyr]

The pact is just fun in general

[ashen nova]

I love divine dash - legit take athena's keepsake in asphodel just to make sure I get it

It's so fun with the witches' circle

[simple thistle]

currently leveling up keepsakes so havent been able to use it much

[half zephyr]

I’ve only been using plume on my baby file since I maxed zag fist

I haven’t even got any other god keepsakes

On that file at least

[magic tangle]

Hey, i got a question abt the bow, specifically the aspect of Chiron. For some reason the special arrows are reduced from 9 to 4. Anyone know why?

[robust scaffold]

its auto aim so its supposed to be stronger

when fully upgraded its 8 so its better

[magic tangle]

But when isn't it 9 arrows when u first get the aspect?

Don't remember it being 4 arrows only

[brisk trail]

hmm are you thinking of early access chiron

even then you still needed to upgrade it to get more arrows

but they did reduce the number of arrows for 1.0

[magic tangle]

No, I've only been playing for a couple of months. This being said, the bow is the weapon i use the least so I might have remembered wrong.

[dire yacht]

Aspect of chiron has 4 arrows in the special at level 1. Giving that Aspect more titan blood and leveling it up gives it more arrows, up to 8. So must have just remembered wrong

[rough hazel]

ඞ

[stoic flame]

sus

[gray dust]

Dionysus

[unborn remnant]

Dionysus

[magic tangle]

Alright, thanks for clarifying!

[polar root]

am i allowed to post pictures here?

[narrow hemlock]

only two channels allow direct image uploads, you need to host your image elsewhere and link it if you want to post an image elsewhere

if the image is relevant to the convo, yes you can post it, link embeds still works, we just don't allow direct uploads to make it more inconvenient for people to spam

[stiff musk]

guess who has two thumbs and just beat the game on 5 heat

extreme measures is actually rlly easy

[half zephyr]

Ye

EM is easy

[dense valley]

I was kind of hesitant to use it at first but it makes the bosses lots f fun tbh

[half zephyr]

EM + MM

[ashen nova]

em4... suffering

[half zephyr]

BP if you wanna get new surprises
Same w BP2 - I find them fun

FO when things start to feel slow

[warm charm]

j

[half zephyr]

I did it

16 heat

Disciple of Ares

19:65.23 - not too bad time either

[gray dust]

Pog, we pretty much did it at the same time

How in the world do I unlock Poseidon's final heart?

He is the last one I need to do

[half zephyr]

prophecy?

[gray dust]

No, to max all relationships

[half zephyr]

his heart is unlocked by a prophecy I think?

[gray dust]

Bruh

[half zephyr]

unless you mean to give him ambrosia?

[narrow hemlock]

||have a fish on hand before you talk to him in a run, after having caught at minimum 18+ fish in total||

[gray dust]

I did that one a million years ago

[narrow hemlock]

prophecy is a separate thing from unlocking

[gray dust]

Already done that 3 times

[narrow hemlock]

dialogue is rng, keep trying

[half zephyr]

sometimes they seem to allign is all

[narrow hemlock]

its because the prophecy and affinity both require you fish, so you can complete requirements for them at the same time, but yeah the prophecy doesnt unlock affinity

the only olympian whose affinity is tied to a prophecy is ares iirc

[half zephyr]

just a litte off this topic, but sometimes I wonder what Hades has against the colour green

[glad leaf]

i get dialogue basically first try a lot of the time

especially weapon aspects

[modern garnet]

Hes blue if he was green he would die

[half zephyr]

I feel like he's kinda grey

[gray dust]

How could it get any easier than a Zeus oriented build with exagryph?

That stuff's op

[pulsar ridge]

I feel my Ares/Athena focused Zeus shield build comes pretty close

[gray dust]

Is that build easy to happen?

[pulsar ridge]

It's not terribly difficult

You just need Athena on attack, Ares on special, and their duo

Anything else is extra, but in my case I got a bunch of extra

[gray dust]

Cause it is insanely easy to get a Zeus only oriented build for Exagryph

[pulsar ridge]

I took off half of Hades' health in 5s or so when he was against a wall and so was my special

[gray dust]

I could literally just only get zeus boons and not die

[pulsar ridge]

it's definitely harder to get, but I'd say it's definitely stronger

[gray dust]

Yes

[pulsar ridge]

I suck with the rail so I don't use it much sadly

[gray dust]

I got my 16 heat win on it today

[half zephyr]

guh, this is gonna be tough

but I'm willing to "cheat" this 32 heat, no matter many times I have to die!

next one is 10th!
it's a no Hades run!!

[gray dust]

A what?

Oh

Ok

Damn, I should've done that, too

[unborn remnant]

I need to try 32 heat

eventually

[half zephyr]

so far it's kinda similar to how 16 was

only I can't heal >.<

and I take a bit more dmg

NOO

my zeus

how could you betray me so

no atk

gaaah

no atk twice in a row

have you forsaken me zeus

guh

Alecto

guh

I forgot I had to purge a boon

[signal aspen]

Wait what weapon are you using

[half zephyr]

zag fists

[signal aspen]

I should've known that

[half zephyr]

it's the only one I got

that's fully maxed

[vernal mulch]

i like the bow and the shield

[half zephyr]

let me rephrase

it's the only one I got that's fully maxed on baby

32 huuuuurts

[signal aspen]

Yeah 32 heat be like that

[half zephyr]

well, I survived Alecto

let's see if I can survive the Lernean Bone Hydra

[signal aspen]

Just don't die

[half zephyr]

wonderful advice

I shall do my utmost to follow it

dangit

almost though!

I think if I manage to dash away a bit faster next time I can do it

had it down to like 1/3rd of the final phase hp

[signal aspen]

F

[half zephyr]

I suppose you can tell me if what I'm using is a terrible combo again

hmmm

LC4+CF2+EM3+BP2+MM+UC+FO2+DC2+TD2

[signal aspen]

Uhhh

Take off em3 and use em2, take off cf2 and use cf0, then use hl5

[half zephyr]

so just extra powerful enemies

I will now guess that the strat is "don't get hit"

as though coming from Hypnos himself

[signal aspen]

Yup

[half zephyr]

ok then..

32 2nd go begin

ok

athena..

well, maybe I'll get a dd through the run then

[half zephyr]

I doubt it does, but does sisyphus healing work when you use LC4?
considering what LC4 does, it can't, right?

I'll go with it not working

...

Meg..

||"What have you done with the Pact, Zagreus? This isn't even Asphodel, and I can barely tolerate the heat. Do you really want to die this terribly?"||

and with your sisters right next to you too

I mean, she was right

I did die

well, time for 3rd attempt

[modern garnet]

Damn she called you hot

[signal aspen]

Sorry for the late response but all healing except guan Yu, sd/dd, cursed slash, draining cutter, and quick recovery don't work

[half zephyr]

ye, must've, cuz she turned up in my bedroom again

[half zephyr]

I found a technical exception

[signal aspen]

Oh yeah

[half zephyr]

in that if I choose a centaur heart it does give me that 25hp

[signal aspen]

Centaur hearts

[half zephyr]

and my darkness rooms do still give me +5hp

[signal aspen]

They give you health

[signal aspen]

That too

[half zephyr]

I hope I get tis or alecto this time tho

meg was not fun

guh

got Tis.. survived with 17 hp \0/

and dead again

oh well, one day I'll get you Lernie!

[signal aspen]

F

[crude surge]

Sadge

[half zephyr]

I got him down to around the exact same hp too

I’ll figure it out some other day

[pulsar ridge]

mfw i find out winter harvest works on bosses

[green maple]

??????

[pulsar ridge]

boon from Demeter effectively reduces health of chilled foes by 10%

[stark oracle]

just finished a lucky run

btw why cant i upload

[pulsar ridge]

Makes spam harder, link embeds work though

[modern garnet]

You can always post your victory screen in #h1-victory-boasting

[stark oracle]

5 heat

[half zephyr]

ya, you essentially fight bosses with 10% less hp - very nice

[pulsar ridge]

Shame I only got it in time for Hades

[half zephyr]

well, if you're gonna get it

[stark oracle]

guys

[half zephyr]

[spark hornet]

Everyone... I did a thing. Escaping for the first time on my 69th attempt.

[stark oracle]

how do i get hades role?

[half zephyr]

good for you

[half zephyr]

#bot-commands

[half zephyr]

now go do it again!

[stark oracle]

thanks

[stark oracle]

woah

[half zephyr]

and there's still story spoilers & such in this channel if that was your first escape

just so you know

[spark hornet]

I'm trying tho... im on the fate list where I gotta get all the hammers for the heart seeking arrow, but it sucks.

[half zephyr]

just get through it

[stark oracle]

whats ur favourite god (boons)

[spark hornet]

that's the last weapon that I gotta get all the hammers for.

my fave?? Artemis.

or ares

[stark oracle]

omg same

artemis and ares

[spark hornet]

yisssss

[signal aspen]

Mine is bouldy

[stark oracle]

last run i had ares main attack cast and spec

athena dash and poseidon call

[spark hornet]

i love Artemis, but on ares... that doo, tho

[stark oracle]

all epic rarity

[spark hornet]

that doom*

[stark oracle]

yea

[spark hornet]

and the rift dashes

rift dashes are op

[stark oracle]

go see in #h1-victory-boasting

[spark hornet]

yisss that cast

[stark oracle]

i prefer deflect dash

[spark hornet]

that's not bad, either

[stark oracle]

and it was my first won heat run

5 heat

[pulsar ridge]

I only really like ares cast with the Artemis duo

[spark hornet]

i haven't gotten much duos

[pulsar ridge]

it doesn't embed so I don't get the 50% extra damage, and it doesn't always hit them for it's duration

[spark hornet]

that sounds cool tho

[half zephyr]

Aphrodite & Zeus & Artemis

[stark oracle]

have u guys ever got the demeter-athena duo

[signal aspen]

Yes

[stark oracle]

the recover one

[signal aspen]

Yes

[stark oracle]

thats op

[half zephyr]

Dio

[spark hornet]

what weapon should i invest titan blood in?

poll

[signal aspen]

Your favorite weapon

[stark oracle]

twin fists

is my fav

[half zephyr]

Zag fist

Max it

Max plume

[pulsar ridge]

The problem with the Athena-Demeter duo is the description is misleading

[half zephyr]

Go run

[signal aspen]

?

[pulsar ridge]

it only heals when you're out of all forms of death defiance

Not just stubborn

[stark oracle]

yea

[signal aspen]

Yeah

[half zephyr]

Ye, that’s what it is

[signal aspen]

That's what it says

[half zephyr]

When you play w dd it doesn’t mention sd either

[signal aspen]

Yeah

[stark oracle]

what companions do u have

[half zephyr]

all of them

[stark oracle]

i have skelly and dusa

[signal aspen]

The description changes when you have sd and dd

[half zephyr]

and none of them

[spark hornet]

the bat form meg

[signal aspen]

All

[pulsar ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/683011883284168725/850897240008163358/unknown.png

[stark oracle]

iii want the meg one

[pulsar ridge]

[half zephyr]

I have all & none of the companions

[stark oracle]

i just need to give her ambrosia

[crude surge]

If your using DD it says death defiance’s instead of stubborn

[half zephyr]

yes, normally during an SD run, you'd have no DD, so why would it mention DD?

[signal aspen]

If you change your mirror to death defiance it will say death defiance

[pulsar ridge]

i had a chaos death defiance and the skelly keepsake

[half zephyr]

yes, but that's not standard

[spark hornet]

I kinda like the sphere...

[stark oracle]

i hate theseus

[half zephyr]

you set it to SD so that's what the description will go for

[pulsar ridge]

but why cant it just say when you're out of any form of death defiance then

[crude surge]

It’s infered most of the time

[signal aspen]

What

[crude surge]

Spherical

[signal aspen]

Oh nice

[pulsar ridge]

or at least be more clear that it means everything gone rather than just one thing

[half zephyr]

because.. normally you don't have DD during an SD run

and stubborn is not quite the same as death defiance

sure, revives you, but different health & only X amount of times

[pulsar ridge]

just cos its not normal doesn't mean the description isn't still confusing

[half zephyr]

[spark hornet]

death defiance all the time over stubborn

[half zephyr]

no

not when using LC4

[crude surge]

Stubborn is better for high heat

[signal aspen]

Depends on what you are doing

[pulsar ridge]

but i can abuse stubborn for pseudo afterparty

[half zephyr]

I need my SD during these attempts..

[crude surge]

BP2 witches go brrrrr

[half zephyr]

no after party with LC4

[pulsar ridge]

oh right

but even on low heat i prefer stubborn

[crude surge]

Nourished soul is the real LC4 meta

[half zephyr]

ooh, but I can get Battie soon!!

[pulsar ridge]

cos at least it does something

[half zephyr]

just need to encounter meg again

[crude surge]

100% useless 😎

[signal aspen]

Nice

[spark hornet]

how do i get the flame wheel thing on customer loyalty? last thing i need

[pulsar ridge]

whereas DD is just something you leave to facetank dad

[half zephyr]

don't you just love those "pay 50 obol get 0 hp"

[signal aspen]

Go to elysium and buy it from a well

[crude surge]

Just rng you can only get it in Elisium so it’s rare

[half zephyr]

I've had it 3 times

[crude surge]

Or at least more rare than other things

[half zephyr]

on baby file

[craggy vapor]

I've gotten in the Well before entering Elysium

[half zephyr]

how

wait, after boss?

[craggy vapor]

Yes

[signal aspen]

Nice

[half zephyr]

then technically elysium

[spark hornet]

so i can have DD and still get it?

[half zephyr]

yes

[crude surge]

Flame wheel release cool but when shield guy release

[half zephyr]

it's the styx one that's defiance dependent

[signal aspen]

When 64 heat is done normally

[half zephyr]

kiss w dd, touch w sd

[crude surge]

Sad

[spark hornet]

64 heat?? I'm on 1 heat i just got that

i just got pact of punish

[signal aspen]

Don't worry about 64 heat, it's impossible

[half zephyr]

I love my BP2, but it's a bit annoynig when the boombooms tp just as I'm about to hit them & I'm on plume time

but I get them fast enough

[stark oracle]

I JUST GOT THE BAT COMPANION IM SO HAPPY

[signal aspen]

Nice

[spark hornet]

yip yip

[stark oracle]

yeees

[half zephyr]

now get ready to feed her

[signal aspen]

Give the toy some soda

[spark hornet]

lolo

[stark oracle]

also the dusa room dialogue

[half zephyr]

guh I need to work more on that

but I need moar gems

and I don't wanna do gem rooms

[stark oracle]

i feel sad for zag and dusa

[half zephyr]

and than needs to hurry up

[half zephyr]

why

[stark oracle]

they shouldve been together

[half zephyr]

they are

[stark oracle]

bc they both had feelings

[half zephyr]

they are platonic soul mates

they still love each other

just not that way

and that's ok

[stark oracle]

but dusa said shes not attracted

so they are just friends

[half zephyr]

you don't have to be attracted to someone to love them

[craggy vapor]

You don't have to have a physical attraction to still be in love or have love and have a relationship

[stark oracle]

i know

i know guys

[half zephyr]

they're platonic soul mates

[stark oracle]

okkk

[half zephyr]

more then friends, less then lovers

[stark oracle]

i understand

[half zephyr]

they have a bond

anyways, than needs to hurry & catch up cuz I already unlocked megs heart & I wanna unlock his too

[stark oracle]

me too

[half zephyr]

I need to get everyone to max hearts at the same time

so annoying

[craggy vapor]

I had the same issue. Than was throwing his tantrum or whatever when I finished Meg's hearts and Dusa's. Needed him for the last one for like 10 runs

[half zephyr]

well, I just want it to see about different dialogue or so

[stark oracle]

what was the other companion?achilles?

how do i unlock that

[craggy vapor]

Oh yes. I LOVE the dialogue in this game so much.

[half zephyr]

you have to go through the arc

[signal aspen]

Reunite him and patty

[craggy vapor]

There are more than a few companions.

[stark oracle]

oh its well done yea+

[half zephyr]

of patrochilles

[stark oracle]

oooh

do i have to gift them both?

[signal aspen]

Ye

[half zephyr]

companions be skelly, dusa, meg, than, patrochilles & bouldy

[craggy vapor]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks his name is that

[stiff musk]

is it just me or is merciful end extremely rare

[half zephyr]

what

it's the ship name

[stiff musk]

ive filled the requirements in like 3 runs and havent gotten it

[craggy vapor]

oh. duh

[stark oracle]

i dont like skelly companion tbh

[half zephyr]

patroclus + achilles

patrochilles

[craggy vapor]

I see now

[stark oracle]

best one prob meg or bouldy

[craggy vapor]

I always just called him that regardless

[half zephyr]

like the forbidden one

thermes

[craggy vapor]

I'm sorry... WHAT

[half zephyr]

and orphydice

[spark hornet]

lucky tooth is cool, but pierced butterfly is much better,

[signal aspen]

Ye it's bad

[stark oracle]

it is

[half zephyr]

someone misspelled Theseus once & it came out Thermes

so.. NEW SHIP NAME

[stark oracle]

oohh yea

[craggy vapor]

ho-how!?

[half zephyr]

they couldn't fully remember the name

theseus.. hermes.. thermes!

[stark oracle]

i choose lucky tooth beetween chamber 2 and 3

for theseus and hades after

[spark hornet]

if im in a lot of trouble, i'll pull lucky tooth... which how i won the first escape attempt

[half zephyr]

I won my first after I got acorn I think

on baby file at least

I can't remember main

[stark oracle]

i maxed artemis keepsake

lol

[half zephyr]

and since then I've really only been using max zag fist + plume + ruthless

I'm still so excited I got through 16 heat with that

means I can most likely do it on my main file too

32 is proving to be a challenge though

[spark hornet]

32 yooooo

wow

[half zephyr]

don't

[stark oracle]

oh and i pull spiked collar beetween 1 and 2

for hydra

[half zephyr]

I'm cheating

[signal aspen]

Nice

[half zephyr]

it's nr 10

so it's a way easier run

[signal aspen]

32 heat is easier than 10 heat

[half zephyr]

10 heat is just em4

easy

at least I make it to Hades

[signal aspen]

Em4 easier than em1

[half zephyr]

I need to unlock em4

I want that music

[spark hornet]

PLease explain how?

[signal aspen]

Ok so basically

Win

[spark hornet]

I'll wait...

that's not a response lol

[signal aspen]

Lmao

[half zephyr]

it is

[spark hornet]

I'll wait

[half zephyr]

with him

[signal aspen]

I was joking

[half zephyr]

he's a student of Hypnos

he gives the best advice

[signal aspen]

Yup

[half zephyr]

I do my best to live by it every day

[craggy vapor]

I mean, pp man is not wrong

[spark hornet]

hahaha

[signal aspen]

I'm never wrong

Except when I am

[spark hornet]

I feelin' like Dionysus with all this wine lol. His trippy shot is the only thing I really use from him, but I prefer Artemis seeking cast way more.

I mean can't go wrong with either one./

[signal aspen]

Well trippy shot gets rid of boiling blood which will be really bad on something like arthur or rama

I only get trippy shot on beowulf

Sometimes on hangover builds if I want the legendary boon

[half zephyr]

I got trippy when I didn't have boiling available

hmm, reminds me I need to get 15 more keys

[spark hornet]

that mirror is expensive af

[signal aspen]

Yeah its pretty expensive

I've maxed out the entire mirror

But I don't use half of it

[half zephyr]

I've both maxed it & not

it's fun having main file & baby file

[craggy vapor]

I literally have one left to do that I keep forgetting about

[spark hornet]

worth it... i mean i was playing for a while with out the full mirror and came to realize I could swap from purple to green on the options changing the alternates (i was seriously amazed) so I unlocked the whole thing and changed certain alternates and on my next attempt I nearly beat hades. I took my a little, but I got him.

a world of difference.

can't post pictures on here?

[half zephyr]

links

spam prevention

[spark hornet]

i was gonna show my morrow

mirror

[half zephyr]

post other place

then post link

[pulsar ridge]

My Chiron special run turned cast run somehow managed to win

[spark hornet]

uhmmm

[half zephyr]

imgur or own discord server is pretty common

copy image link, paste, send

[signal aspen]

Yeah I have a private discord server that I use to post images here

[pulsar ridge]

I just DM bots

😎

[signal aspen]

Nice

[half zephyr]

I've had a server for some years now that I just test bots in if I'm unsure about them

so I just use that

[spark hornet]

https://discord.com/channels/@me/845681824566738964/850536154628882463

[half zephyr]

image link

not link link

[signal aspen]

Copy image link then post it here

[spark hornet]

omg

[half zephyr]

if it helps the link will have image in the name

[spark hornet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/845681824566738964/850536154162790430/0604212046_HDR.jpg

that work?

[half zephyr]

does when I do it at least

[signal aspen]

Nice

[half zephyr]

family favorite >.<

why no PS?

[signal aspen]

Family favorite good

[half zephyr]

but

status!

[signal aspen]

It just depends on your build

[spark hornet]

status?

[signal aspen]

Privileged status

[half zephyr]

need to trigger 2+ status effects

[signal aspen]

Enemies with 2 curses on them will take extra damage

[half zephyr]

gives dmg boost

veeery nice

[spark hornet]

oh yeah that ok

I unlocked the last 200 but btw

2000

i wasn't too sure about iot

[half zephyr]

you have weak, exposed, marked, rupture, jolted, doom, hangover, chill

[spark hornet]

privileged

[signal aspen]

Hunters mark is the best for ps

It goes away after like 3 seconds

[spark hornet]

I'll try out priv

[half zephyr]

[signal aspen]

Golden touch

[half zephyr]

I like golden touch

[signal aspen]

It's fine

[spark hornet]

yeah golden touch is amazering

[signal aspen]

Not as good as the other one

[half zephyr]

but I also like stygian

[half zephyr]

deep pockets

[spark hornet]

you get way more gold with golden touch

[half zephyr]

depends

it's based on how much you have going out of a biome
if I remember right

[signal aspen]

Ye

[half zephyr]

I've exited with 0

5% of 0 is still 0

[signal aspen]

I've used it once

[spark hornet]

im getting way moe gold than what i was with the other one

[half zephyr]

different uses for sure

one is starter the other whole run

[signal aspen]

I like deep pockets because in tart you can buy some boons easily

[craggy vapor]

^

[spark hornet]

i like to save my gold i don't buy anything unless it's a touch of Styx of i absolutely need it.

skips all the shops

[signal aspen]

Why?

[spark hornet]

why not?

spending money when you don't need to

[signal aspen]

Shops are extremely useful

[craggy vapor]

Don't need to? It's a good way to get a leg up early on

[half zephyr]

shops are great

and

if you don't go to middle shops you can't get all content

[modern garnet]

if you go into a regular room you can get 1 boon... but if you go into a shop you could get 2 :O

[half zephyr]

in fact

[craggy vapor]

Potentially even a hammer!

[half zephyr]

if you go into a shop you might get a boon at all!

[signal aspen]

Woah that's 2 whole boons

[modern garnet]

since there's a cap on how many hammers you can get, and since the game likes to make sure you reach the cap, is it even worth it to get a shop hammer?

[spark hornet]

shops are a risk I'm not willing to take and not worth it in my opinion. You get some good stuff here and there, but MEH.

[half zephyr]

I think the only times I don't go into shop is when I don't have the funds or when I really want Hermes/Hammer

[half zephyr]

[signal aspen]

How are they a risk

[half zephyr]

it's a BOON

[signal aspen]

It's a free room

[half zephyr]

possible healing

[spark hornet]

you don't get boons every time.

[half zephyr]

possible extra heart

[half zephyr]

almost every time

I've only had I think 10 rooms total that didn't have boons?

[craggy vapor]

I literally cannot follow Foxtrot's train of thought with this

[spark hornet]

im not buying a boon that could possibly be junk

[half zephyr]

in over 100 runs

[craggy vapor]

You don't have to??

[half zephyr]

you've got fated dice..

[robust scaffold]

yea end shops are just bad

[craggy vapor]

It's a choice to purchase them

[robust scaffold]

middle shops are since its a free room

[signal aspen]

How

[robust scaffold]

not as bad without CF2 i guess

[modern garnet]

it's difficult to judge the value of a room you don't go into

[half zephyr]

I still chose shop w cf2 >.>

[spark hornet]

i might buy something from an end shop

that's it

[robust scaffold]

have no gold to buy anything lol

[half zephyr]

so you do enter shops??

or are you talking about styx shop?

[craggy vapor]

Do you enter the shops or avoid them?

[signal aspen]

Nice

[modern garnet]

some end of biome rooms can't be avoided

[robust scaffold]

i dont think its possible to get enough gold to spend in 2 shops

[spark hornet]

the styx shop i buy things from

absolutely

[half zephyr]

I regurarly spend in almost all shops

it's easy - just go for money rooms instead of hearts

who needs hearts

[robust scaffold]

huh

hearts are worth more than money..

[half zephyr]

no

[robust scaffold]

hearts are worth 225 and money is 100

by shop value

[half zephyr]

dmg is worth more then health

[spark hornet]

i pick hearts over money if i am forced to choose

[half zephyr]

you can get more dmg with money

via boons

[spark hornet]

yis

[modern garnet]

i used to always reroll money rooms

[half zephyr]

[craggy vapor]

Y'all play so weirdly

[robust scaffold]

i prefer health anyway

[craggy vapor]

Shadow has ascended

[half zephyr]

I never take a heart room until I have to

on 32 I have to

[craggy vapor]

EXACTLY

[half zephyr]

cuz I'm a baby swimming in heat

[signal aspen]

That's why you died on 32 heat lol

[half zephyr]

READ THE COMMENT UNDER!

[signal aspen]

I refuse

[craggy vapor]

Lmao

[spark hornet]

LOL

[half zephyr]

[robust scaffold]

smh my head

[craggy vapor]

What is even that emote

[half zephyr]

kanna lick

don't ask

[craggy vapor]

...oh

[signal aspen]

Imagine licking somebody during a conversation

[spark hornet]

that's a lick??

[half zephyr]

I'm in too many servers with too many emotes to use them for just what they stand for

I have 3 lick emotes

[spark hornet]

looks like something that is not a lick

adn that's all im gonna say

[half zephyr]

it's supposed to be more of a "sticking out tongue" emote

cuz 😛 looks too happy

meh, I'll just use next time

[craggy vapor]

oooooh it's a side profile of a pouting thing with it's tongue out. I see it now

I thought it was the back end of a Corgie with it's leg's in the air showing it's booty

[signal aspen]

Yo what

[half zephyr]

what?

[craggy vapor]

I dunno man. Really don't.

[half zephyr]

your mind is weird

[spark hornet]

that's closer to what i was thinking but still a way understatement.

[craggy vapor]

OH! DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THAT

[robust scaffold]

haha

its confusing for sure

[half zephyr]

you guys are all weird

[spark hornet]

you're weird.

[half zephyr]

no, I'm crazy

I've long since accepted it

[spark hornet]

and weird.

[half zephyr]

it's a better state of being

just acknowledging the crazy

[craggy vapor]

It truly is. As I stated earlier, Shadow has ASCENDED

[half zephyr]

[signal aspen]

My name is pp man but I am not weird

[craggy vapor]

Who would think that?

[signal aspen]

True

Only weird people think that the name pp man is weird

[half zephyr]

powerpuff man

[spark hornet]

I never questioned the pp man name

[craggy vapor]

Shadow. Don't. Miss.

[half zephyr]

[signal aspen]

No it stands for pressure points

Like the artemis boon

[spark hornet]

oh

[signal aspen]

You dummy

[robust scaffold]

nicee

i love pp

[spark hornet]

omfg...

[signal aspen]

Pp is my second favorite boon

[robust scaffold]

whats ur fav boon then

[signal aspen]

Heart of stone

From bouldy

[half zephyr]

it's powerpuff

[robust scaffold]

omg rng enjoyer

[half zephyr]

bouldy gives best boons

[signal aspen]

No

[spark hornet]

I have been working on bouldy companion

[half zephyr]

I need sleep

[spark hornet]

bat is cool for now

[half zephyr]

bat is fast

[spark hornet]

I got work in the morning, so I'm out.

G'night.

[half zephyr]

it is morning

early early morning

[signal aspen]

Good night

[half zephyr]

I need to stop forgetting to go to sleep nods

I'll go sleep - it's almost 4 am

[robust scaffold]

good night lol

[craggy vapor]

Goodnight Shadow!

[pulsar ridge]

Never using anvil again with sword

[modern garnet]

hahaha

[pulsar ridge]

just lost a good Arthur run cos I used it and got cursed slash

[craggy vapor]

What happened?

oof

[modern garnet]

anvil is always a gamble, but on sword it can destroy your run so easily

[pulsar ridge]

literally any other sword would have been fine, but had to be when I was using Arthur

usually I like cursed slash

but then again I usually build around it when I get it

[chrome wharf]

got bored and did a randomized run

all choices (boons, rooms) decided by rng

[pulsar ridge]

Did you roll a dice to decide which rooms and boons though

[craggy vapor]

I just ask people in my VC the numbers and the majority wins

[chrome wharf]

yeah I used a stopwatch's smallest division

[pulsar ridge]

ah, true randomness

[craggy vapor]

I do random runs A LOT

[pulsar ridge]

asking a vc is so random it turns into spite lmao

[craggy vapor]

I don't having a polling system sooo

[humble lotus]

Ive realized something dumb

I am good at fighting hades with all but the weapon that is my favorite to use against regular enemies

[pulsar ridge]

Arthur is so good against Dad, wow

those crits with arty

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/683011883284168725/850933242936557608/unknown.png

fastest time yet too

[humble lotus]

I love spear but suck at fighting hades with spear

[pulsar ridge]

i dont care much for spear

only aspect that i like is achilles

[craggy vapor]

I cannot stand spear

[humble lotus]

Like he is just fast enough and has a wide enough range to make him really frustrating with spear

[craggy vapor]

any aspect

[pulsar ridge]

I have never used the spin

[humble lotus]

I love spear on all aspects but guan yu but hades sucks to fight with it

[pulsar ridge]

just run a cast build with spear 🧠

[craggy vapor]

I've never ran a cast build. I have a 123 runs and never done a cast run.

[pulsar ridge]

My first victory was a cast build

[humble lotus]

Ive tried cast builds but can never figure it out

[pulsar ridge]

23rd run, and I decided to run Poseidon sword with artys call

[craggy vapor]

My first was an Eris Rail build.

[pulsar ridge]

Absolutely melted

[humble lotus]

Mine was beo sheild

[pulsar ridge]

I don't have beo

[humble lotus]

Its fun

Basicaly think hera bow but on the sheild

Where you load casts that fire off when you charge

[pulsar ridge]

Oh nice

Personally my favourite shield rn is Zeus

[humble lotus]

Also hera bow is my favorite bow

By far

Mainly because dionysus fog builds are fun

[pulsar ridge]

Zeus shield is amazing with synergistic boons

[humble lotus]

Zues requires a realy particular setup

And im not great with it

I will say hidden gun is amazingly fun with zeus attack

[pulsar ridge]

most guns are good with Zeus attack, except Hestia

[humble lotus]

Which is hestia?

[pulsar ridge]

Reload for huge damage

[humble lotus]

Ah

[pulsar ridge]

It's still good with Zeus attack

[humble lotus]

The one i never use

[pulsar ridge]

But you're not taking advantage of the gimmick at all then

[humble lotus]

I will say whats worse is the only sword aspects i have ever used are the basic one and monty python

I have both the others but never use them

[pulsar ridge]

I only use Poseidon and Arthur

[humble lotus]

I have never used poseidon

[pulsar ridge]

since Poseidon is essentially the zag sword but works for cast builds

[humble lotus]

It sounded really unfun

I have max zag sword anyways

And only use monty python for cheesy reflect builds

[pulsar ridge]

Arthur is just nice to use

I'm a sucker for heavy weapons in most games

[humble lotus]

I mainly like to play very defencively

Which is also why i like spear

And the one weapon i cant stand is gauntlets

I can play gauntlets but am constantly stressed when doing so

Oh and guan yu

[pulsar ridge]

Guan Yu is

don't like it

[humble lotus]

I dont know anyone that does

[pulsar ridge]

I'm not a fan of weapons that are basically unusable without levelling

[humble lotus]

I like hades spear though

[craggy vapor]

Guan Yu and Achilles both irritate my soul. I only like Hades aspect

[humble lotus]

Its very very fun