h1-discussion

[half zephyr]

I tend to end up with high enough dps/dmg & enough dodge % that I barely get hit

[modern garnet]

Fists sure are strong but I feel like none of the skills are transferable to other weapons...

[half zephyr]

I jumped straight into TD + FO with fists on my baby file when I had the chance

much speed

the only down side is having to take breaks often cuz hands

I can do maybe 2-3 runs before it starts to get hard to move them properly

[modern garnet]

You think your hands get sore? Imagine how zag feels!

[half zephyr]

well

unlike me zags a god

I'm just a mere mortal

[modern garnet]

if you're playing intensely for 1+ hours it does start to hurt, that's just bones, right?

[half zephyr]

idk

I just hate that I can't react as fast as I want to

[modern garnet]

Maybe some extra dashes would help >:)

I wonder if there's a fists aspect that could give you that

[half zephyr]

ew

I don't like gilga & this is my baby file

it's got like 15-16 escape attempts total

[jolly hornet]

Is the Soundtrack from Hades from Darren Korb again?

[half zephyr]

it's a baby file using max zag + max plume + ruthless

[half zephyr]

ye

he got the music

and orphy singing voice

[jolly hornet]

cool, i loved "sailing home" from Bastion.

[half zephyr]

he's also the voice of zag & skelly

[signal aspen]

no you can

you have to make it to hades with no olympian boons

and un-purgeable boons are allowed

[plush sable]

why was there an update?

[signal aspen]

probably bug fixes

[plush sable]

ok

[buoyant merlin]

Update replaced zags voice actor with Gilbert Godfrey

[nimble sigil]

finally 🙄

[buoyant valley]

i wish

[dire yacht]

Oh hey the final awakening text. I wasn't expecting that.

Guess now I can get the hidden shield

[gray dust]

What happens if I use the Hades call on Hades?

[signal aspen]

you get cool dialogue

and the call still works

[gray dust]

Cool, I will try it

[open peak]

Is there a list of Housing Contracts that unlock stuff?

[signal aspen]

what stuff are you talking about

cosmetics or work orders?

[open peak]

Just a master list really

Work Orders and any thing that has a function I guess.

[signal aspen]

https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/House_Contractor

this has everything you can buy from the house contractor

might not be everything because its from the wiki

[open peak]

Good start
Thx

[signal aspen]

np

[oak fox]

Just to be sure, is there a fast way to get nectar? Im lacking some rn

[signal aspen]

turn off dark foresight, turn on fated authority and reroll doors with blue laurels to get nectar, and you can trade gemstones for keys, and keys for nectar

[dire yacht]

Also Dionysus has a boon that gives a free nectar, and some extra hp

[signal aspen]

ye

[oak fox]

I see

Thanks!

[buoyant merlin]

500 runs in and I don't have all of the fish types. Anyone know where I might be missing the last two?

[signal aspen]

probably chaos or the surface legendary fish

here is a list of all the fish

https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Fishing

[narrow hemlock]

it should be everything, ive worked on a good portion of that table

[signal aspen]

alright

ty

[narrow hemlock]

can't vouch for other pages being complete but i did assist with that one

[novel wasp]

Today is the day to say

Dionysus

[hollow hawk]

no

It's never the day

Go away

[signal aspen]

thats very sus of you

[hollow hawk]

(also your name perfectly matches the messages you send @novel wasp)

[novel wasp]

Im the agent of chaosus

[hollow hawk]

ok thats too far you're getting blocked now

[signal aspen]

lmao

[novel wasp]

biglul

Thesus

[amber cloak]

Just got the true ending and man it was sooo good. Felt like the circle of all the gods and then Hades finally filling in the middle with Zeus saying, "Welcome to the Family" would've been the perfect reveal for Hades being a new god you could accept boons from though, shame that didn't happen.

||maybe if/whenever Hades 2 or a DLC comes out? i can only dream o_o||

[uncut dagger]

🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪
🟪🟦🟦🟦🟪
🟪🟦🟦🟦🟪
🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪
🟪🟪🟪🟪🟪
🟪🟪 🟪🟪
🟪🟪 🟪🟪

[signal aspen]

amogus?

[warm egret]

s u s s y

[uncut dagger]

I originally made this red I had to remove all the red then replace it with purple

oh no that doesn't look right when I reply to it

[warm egret]

somebody want trade steam cards? (fromhadespls)

[novel wasp]

If Olympians playing among us

Trust me Ares always gets vote kick as soon as the game starts

[warm egret]

Thanatos sus

[narrow hemlock]

that's on olympians then cause ares is retaliatory

[novel wasp]

Athena: Hes still sus, if you ask me.

[crude surge]

🟪🟪🟪
⬜⬜🟪🟪
🟪🟪🟪🟪
🟪 🟪

[uncut dagger]

s u s

[novel wasp]

I have unleashed enough chaos for today

Time to go back to sleep/lurk

[signal aspen]

@terse ledge we talk about hades here

[terse ledge]

yes

hello hades?

[signal aspen]

hello

[ashen nova]

God if that isn't a mood

[terse ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/mood-candy-yas-werk-mitah-gif-11060322

[ashen nova]

I've gotten 6 perfect catches in tartarus and all were stupid knuckleheads

suffering

[brisk trail]

My first fish back after not playing Hades for about a month was a Scyllascion.

[ashen nova]

lmao is that the tartarus rare fish?

[signal aspen]

its the legendary fish

i havent caught a legendary fish in a while

maybe its because i dont fish anymore

[ashen nova]

That and the loyalty card are the last things I need in the codex, so I gotta keep doing it

[open peak]

Poseidon gifts me with this Fishing boon, watch me catch nothing 😹

[manic bobcat]

I often get Huge Catch in Styx

Just because

[chrome wharf]

I got Fishing boon as the first one while trying for the 10th escape

It came up in a few purging pools and I thought of selling it because I was trying to finish the story

but decided "no it's my good luck charm"

I virtually fistbumped Poseidon when Hades didn't fight me

[crude surge]

lol

[ashen nova]

I've been building specifically for this and only ever get it in Styx 😂

[dire yacht]

I don't even know if I've had that boon yet, and if I have, only once

I probably have had it, I forget which gods I don't have boons on yet

Dionysus and someone else I think, probably Zeus

[golden kayak]

how are the fists of gilgamesh?

[modern garnet]

Some would say "worst aspect in the game"

But it's not that bad tbh

[golden kayak]

ah

welp

i just put titans blood in it

[ashen nova]

oh dang I like them a lot lol

[crude surge]

The one thing it has going for it imo are the extra dashes

So you can actually use ruthles reflex

[half zephyr]

you have 1 from him

that's enough

[narrow hemlock]

i like them. if you like an aspect play it. whats "best" really only matters at high heat since some aspects objectively perform better than others

[ashen nova]

honestly beowulf on the shield is the most painful imo. Gilgamesh is fine 😂

[manic bobcat]

Hmm You might have triggered a lot of people.

[ashen nova]

Maiming is fun 😦

[cedar dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/748737730611118164/850138585713737758/image0.png my hades enemy tier list

[modern garnet]

Based on how strong they are?

Seems tiered by health total mostly

[cedar dock]

That plus annoyance

[half zephyr]

butterfly balls die easy

same w blue crystals

[cedar dock]

Yeah i just hate them

[modern garnet]

Butterfly balls feel like they have too much health

Shield guys aren't THAT bad

[half zephyr]

depends on weapon really for those

and boons

[cedar dock]

Also here is my definetly unpopular aspect tier list https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/748737730611118164/850139248132227112/image0.png

[half zephyr]

idk what aspects are based on image

[modern garnet]

Never used gy??

[cedar dock]

I dont have the blood for it atm

[modern garnet]

And all the fists??

[half zephyr]

I can't tell what you've used or haven't used

[cedar dock]

I hate the fists

[half zephyr]

except arthur

noooooo

fist fun

fist great

use max zag + max plume + ruthless

[cedar dock]

Ok one sec i will write it out

[half zephyr]

get all the dodge

much speed so dodge

just zoom

[cedar dock]

S Zeus Zag Bow
A Achilles Lucifer Rama
B Eris Chaos Beowulf
C Zag Spear Zag Rail
D Zag Shield Zag Sword Hades
F Zag Fists Hestia
Never Used Chiron Hera Nemesis Posiesen Guan Yu Talos Demeter Giglamesh Arthur

[cedar dock]

No blood atm i really wanted Lucifer

[cedar dock]

Fist dumb

[half zephyr]

no

fist fun

zag fist fun

talos ok

dem fun

[cedar dock]

Zag fist sad

[half zephyr]

gilga.. meh

what the

no

zag fist is FUN

[cedar dock]

Fist sad

[manic bobcat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/802615525141643265/850140490511024148/Screenshot_20210603-183416.jpg

[half zephyr]

you get dodge chance automatically

[half zephyr]

then don't step on traps

[cedar dock]

If you have titans blood that is

[half zephyr]

you only need 5!

it's easy to get 5

[cedar dock]

I have 0 atm

And im what you call garbage at the game

[manic bobcat]

Shadow is full of advice today

[half zephyr]

then zag fist will be even better

cuz you have auto dodge chance

[cedar dock]

Ik i still dont like the fists as a weapon

[half zephyr]

by the time I get to heroes on zag fist I'm dodging at least half the attacks

[modern garnet]

Fists are funny because you really do just out-dps a lot of enemies

[half zephyr]

it's very fun to just see endless dodged

[half zephyr]

yesss

you just punch & they ded

[modern garnet]

I get hit more when running fists than any other weapon

[half zephyr]

I don't get hit at all almost

I'm too fast

[cedar dock]

I play zeus shield zag bow and lucy lmfaoo i still get hit

[half zephyr]

beyblade fun

[cedar dock]

Also fun lucy builds anyone?

[ashen nova]

Zeus aspect my beloved

[half zephyr]

lucy is fun too, but I just do whatever

but zag fist with max plume is my OTL

[cedar dock]

I need to try beyblade

[half zephyr]

what

you just said

you play zeus shield

that is beyblade

[manic bobcat]

Seastorm Super Soaker?

[cedar dock]

Im thinking of smth different lol

Talking about ares blade rifts

[manic bobcat]

Seastorm + Tempest Strike + Some thunder stuff = Firefighter experience

[half zephyr]

well, in here beyblade is zeus shield, pinball is zag shield & pinball2 is chaos aspect shield

[half zephyr]

aah, those beyblades

[cedar dock]

Ah

[half zephyr]

they're ok, but not actual beyblade

[manic bobcat]

Otherwise Triple Bomb + Deadly Flourish for a minesweeper experience

[cedar dock]

Im doing that when i get home

I love ME on beyblade then

[half zephyr]

I need to try & use FO2

[half zephyr]

get zeus on zeus

with pos atk

[cedar dock]

:bigbrain:

[half zephyr]

to knock into beyblade

[cedar dock]

Ye

[half zephyr]

get a fun dash like tidal or status

then aim for just anything that boosts special

and get support fire

[half zephyr]

and by this I mean things that build on the lightning

like any T2 zeus boons for that

so much fun

[cedar dock]

One or my other favorites is Zag Bow (max) artemis atk + twinshot

[half zephyr]

I don't do bow

unless I have to

[cedar dock]

Bow fun

Rama fun

[half zephyr]

it's a mutual hate relationship

[cedar dock]

Lmfao

Same here w/ fists

[half zephyr]

bow hates me & won't give me good boons or hammers

[cedar dock]

Rip

[half zephyr]

I hate bow for not being what I want it to be

[cedar dock]

What are your thoughts on shield

[half zephyr]

I like taking my time with bows in games - slow loading, sniping & such

[cedar dock]

^^^^agree

[half zephyr]

pinball fun, pinball2 fun, beyblade veeeery fun & beo is blegh

mostly beo is blegh cuz I don't rush

so beo is very useless to me

[cedar dock]

Beo is meh

[half zephyr]

if I ignore that I don't rush, then beo is neat

for those who use it

[cedar dock]

I want to upgrade chaos shield

[half zephyr]

it's useless on low lvl

[cedar dock]

^

[half zephyr]

I only use an aspect when it's maxed

[cedar dock]

Better then no level zag shield for me at the time 😂

[half zephyr]

I'm missing 3 aspects & I'll have all done

[cedar dock]

You would hate my save lol

[half zephyr]

Poseidon, Hades & Hestia

they're the only lvl 1 aspects I got

[narrow hemlock]

all this fist hate......... takes my fist mains and packs up

[half zephyr]

I only hold love for fists

except gilgamesh

[cedar dock]

I dont even remember what i said lmao

[half zephyr]

but that's cuz I don't like maim

the dashes are fun

[narrow hemlock]

gilg is fun to me ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cedar dock]

Hestia tho ...😔

[half zephyr]

I'm generally against things that hurt me more when I use it to hurt others

I'm ok w FO since I use it to force things to spawn faster

It's so sloooow when I take it off now

[half zephyr]

I'm not a cast person

or a reload

[cedar dock]

2 things maxxed for unlocking stuff

[half zephyr]

so those aspects are not my main concerns

[cedar dock]

Me neither

Posieden sounds fun

Exit Wounds

[half zephyr]

I know it's great if you get loads of bloodstones + exit wounds & such

but I just.. I only use my cast every now & then

[cedar dock]

Just not a cast kinda gal

[half zephyr]

I tend to forget it exists

[half zephyr]

well, a.. ok fixed

[cedar dock]

I shoulda checked before i hit send lol

[half zephyr]

[cedar dock]

I legit abuse the edit feature

[half zephyr]

sometimes I wonder why my excessive cutesy emotes don't give it away

[cedar dock]

I just saw an ad for a car vending machine

[manic bobcat]

Girls aren't real, what we talking about

[cedar dock]

What

True that true that lmao

[half zephyr]

true, I forgot

I'm a figment of your imagination

[manic bobcat]

You see, female characters like Meg or Dusa are made up by big game industry to sell games

[cedar dock]

Your obviously from the dark side of the brain then

You like fists

[half zephyr]

I only exist in a metaphysical state

[manic bobcat]

If you do your research, you will find out that they are from mythology, which isn't real

[cedar dock]

Loool

[manic bobcat]

Wake up sheeple

[half zephyr]

[cedar dock]

Lmfaoooooo

[cedar dock]

Just looked at your prp i love cats

[half zephyr]

[cedar dock]

Hold up let me get a link to my phone lockscreen

[half zephyr]

not in here

put in general

[cedar dock]

Ye

Its in general

[buoyant merlin]

How do I reach the surface or get the surface fish if I can't go to greece anymore?

[modern garnet]

fish pop up in the final boss room sometimes, they count as greek

[buoyant merlin]

aaaa gotcha gotcha

[modern garnet]

sometimes hades talks about the fish, it's a funny line

[buoyant merlin]

Oh yeah

"When I'm finished with you, this fish will be next"

[unreal atlas]

"This sea-creature mocks me."

[buoyant merlin]

something something it's smug aura

[half zephyr]

She’s our platonic soul mate

[viscid cape]

Upset.

[half zephyr]

And she’s perfect

[viscid cape]

The pain in my heart.

[half zephyr]

[crude surge]

Relationships don’t always work out

[manic bobcat]

That's still a relationship. Just not that kind. Or maybe I'm pedantic here.

[viscid cape]

They are friends so its all that matters

[brisk trail]

Anyone else getting Hades updates in EpicGames browser, few gigs in size, but when checking here for patches, nothings new

?*

[ashen nova]

Yeah

I got one on steam this week

[brisk trail]

so what even do they do?

[ashen nova]

No idea-maybe a question for #h1-tech-support ? I just assumed they were tiny bug fixes

[ebon urchin]

So I only drop by from time to time. Are there any news or persistent rumors on that announcement that shan't be named?

[half zephyr]

on what now?

[vital fern]

Ive got the first 2 aspects for each weapon but not the third how do i get the third aspect?

[half zephyr]

it should be visible?

the first 3 aspects should be visible I think? just need to be unlocked

could be misremembering

but I know it's the 4th that's the hidden one

[half zephyr]

short answer is get more blood?

[ashen nova]

About the job ad? Idk I think they might be making a video game thing idk tho

[signal aspen]

if you are talking about the hidden aspect then check the pinned messages in #h1-story-discussion

[half zephyr]

oh my

I invited dusa for drinks in the lounge & it actually happened right then & there

wao

you go baby file

[signal aspen]

what

[half zephyr]

I think on my main file when that happened she just ran away

I didn't really have many hearts with her then cuz I didn't have nectar

this time I'm trying to keep all 3 love interests at the same heart lvl
just to see what happens

[stoic flame]

i have meg at the last heart thing with the lock thing but i cant give her ambrosia

is it like rng

[signal aspen]

you have to kill her

more

[stoic flame]

ah

i also have dusa at the lock thing

[half zephyr]

very rng

[stoic flame]

but i cant give her ambrosia

[half zephyr]

it's literally on the wiki

[signal aspen]

renovate the lounge

[half zephyr]

ye

[stoic flame]

i see

thanks

[half zephyr]

you need to do X number of lounge renovations including at least 1 rug + cleaning up after cerb

[stoic flame]

okay

[half zephyr]

Disciple of Hermes

[signal aspen]

nice

[half zephyr]

just tried TD2 for the first time

I did ok

I got 7:50.74 left on the clock

need to get better

[mystic steeple]

Question for y'all

What's your favorite weapon?

[half zephyr]

fists

[signal aspen]

shield

[buoyant merlin]

spear

[half zephyr]

Fists>Sword>Shield/Rail>Spear>Bow

Once I get over sword HA it'll go back to
Fists>Shield>Sword/Rail>Spear>Bow

[brisk trail]

bow

[half zephyr]

wow, much surprise

[buoyant merlin]

Everyone knows that if hermes had duo skills with the other gods his Aphrodite one would be called Quickie

[half zephyr]

I can unlock more of the mirror

[robust scaffold]

bow gang

[half zephyr]

oh, PS I've missed you

[stoic flame]

mine is fists>sword>shield=rail>spear>bow

[signal aspen]

why rail so low

[robust scaffold]

ikr

[stoic flame]

i dont use it much

[signal aspen]

oh

[stoic flame]

oops

[half zephyr]

then use it more

[stoic flame]

pretty fun tho

[robust scaffold]

lol

[signal aspen]

bruh

[stoic flame]

ive been playing more sword thats why i put it higher otherwise i rank it below shield

[stiff musk]

spear

[faint valley]

Hey did you know arthur (a big hades player) refused Fermat ?

[half zephyr]

refused what?

[signal aspen]

aspect of arthur refused fermat

[half zephyr]

what is "fermat"?

[faint valley]

wtf you donty now ferma

[half zephyr]

I've never seen the word before

[faint valley]

so sad

[stoic flame]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_de_Fermat

lmao

first result

[signal aspen]

yep

thats him

[half zephyr]

aah

I don't remember anything related to math ever

[signal aspen]

nice

[half zephyr]

it's kinda pathetic since my grandpa was an accountant, my aunt is an accountant, my mom is an accountant, my dad is an accountant & my brother is educated as both an electrician & an engineer

I'm the one that doesn't get math

[stoic flame]

🗿

maths is my favourite subject

chemistry tho

💀

[buoyant merlin]

cute link emote

[signal aspen]

ye hes my favorite cthonic god

[stoic flame]

true

[golden kayak]

just got Persephone back to the house

[signal aspen]

nice

[half zephyr]

I got Disciple of Hermes again

[signal aspen]

nice

[half zephyr]

got 7 clears now

getting closer to freebie

[signal aspen]

nice

[half zephyr]

yess

first meg bedroom encounter

[signal aspen]

nice

[half zephyr]

that moment when you stand in front of one god but accidentally too close to the other so it chooses the wrong one

I wanted aphrodite - ended up with ares

sad

[mortal palm]

Rail tends to not be very good starting out, and needs upgrades to really be quite effective. It also tends to be difficult for some people to use the alt-fire, which is required for earlier levels to achieve decent clear speeds IMO.

[signal aspen]

alright

[half zephyr]

what is "the alt-fire"?

[signal aspen]

idk

special?

[half zephyr]

[half zephyr]

I maybe went a bit too fast when I chose FO2 + TD2

maybe

not sure yet

[signal aspen]

wdym too fast?

[half zephyr]

well, I hadn't really gotten used to TD2 yet

so jumping to FO2 + TD2 might've been too much too fast

still alive though!

[robust scaffold]

u should go at ur own pace, if ur fine with FO2 then thats good

i jumped to FO2 from FO0 lol

[half zephyr]

I mean, I'm doing it cuz FO is starting to feel slow

but I'm still taking a bit too long w TD2

[robust scaffold]

maybe try taking more dmg boon so u can go faster

[half zephyr]

what do you think I'm doing..?

I'm running max zag fist + max plume

[manic bobcat]

Just git gud lmao

[half zephyr]

it's all about speed

tartarus was a bit more rough tho

[manic bobcat]

Though I much prefer Demeter on fists

It feels better

[half zephyr]

well, I only just tried dem once on my main file

and I like being fast

[half zephyr]

hmm

almost died, but I didn't

Disciple of Hermes yet again

[signal aspen]

nice

[half zephyr]

you make me wanna listen to a kpop song that I don't really like too much, but all I ever remember from it is the chorus going "Nice!"

[signal aspen]

what

[half zephyr]

there's this song called "very nice" by a group called seventeen

and all I remember from it is that they go "Nice!" in the chorus

https://tenor.com/view/aju-nice-very-nice-seventeen-17-kpop-gif-21148592

[signal aspen]

is the song seventeen minutes long?

[half zephyr]

no

[signal aspen]

bad song

[half zephyr]

the group is the one called seventeen lol

[signal aspen]

i dont care

[half zephyr]

not that they're seventeen members either - it's 13 I think

[signal aspen]

bad group

[half zephyr]

[buoyant merlin]

I wish every tech support department responded to me with the same promptness as pp man with my hades questions

[half zephyr]

[signal aspen]

what

[manic bobcat]

HE SAID HE WISHED EVERY TECH SUPPORT DEPT RESPONDED TO HIM AS QUICKLY AS YOU DID TO HIS QUESTION

[signal aspen]

ok

[half zephyr]

hmm

"oh, so you thought you went a bit too fast when you did FO2 + TD2.. well how about you just jump straight from 9 heat to 16?"

[warm charm]

re-eee-ee

[manic bobcat]

Just do 32

[signal aspen]

just do 64

[half zephyr]

so, the highest I've ever done is 13

and that's with full mirror

[signal aspen]

ok

[warm charm]

highest i've done was 14

[half zephyr]

I don't even have the full mirror unlocked

[signal aspen]

you dont need the full mirror

[manic bobcat]

Take RI and you don't need no mirror

[half zephyr]

no

[robust scaffold]

play low heat

[half zephyr]

I'm testing out to see if I can even make it to Hades

[robust scaffold]

its good for ur health

[half zephyr]

what's the point lol

[robust scaffold]

to have fun :D

[half zephyr]

I'm testing to see if I can run even higher heat for the 10th clear

[half zephyr]

but this is fun too

[warm charm]

my first clear was from using the spear

[robust scaffold]

oh no another heat player

[manic bobcat]

People play games to have fun?

[signal aspen]

i play games to have a bad time

so

you're wrong

[half zephyr]

I'm a low heat player

[robust scaffold]

hmm if u like it that works too

heat is heat

[half zephyr]

you're not high heat until you go over 32

[robust scaffold]

its okay i call myself high heat too

[half zephyr]

my first clear was with fists

and my first clear on baby file was with shield

[manic bobcat]

Well this isn't #h1-high-heat-strategies

[robust scaffold]

haha yea

[half zephyr]

never said it was

but I usually stick to under 10

[robust scaffold]

i did say heat not high heat heh

[signal aspen]

imagine playing with heat

[half zephyr]

I guess after a while I stopped viewing EM as heat seriously

I think I've only turned it off for bow

[robust scaffold]

ur getting good

[signal aspen]

imagine turning off em

[half zephyr]

more like EM is just easy

[robust scaffold]

sorry i turn off EM4

[signal aspen]

em4 easy

[robust scaffold]

beard man scary

[signal aspen]

dont get hit

[buoyant merlin]

i try to turn off em 3 when I can. I hate suped up minotaur and champion

[signal aspen]

i always play with em3

[robust scaffold]

ikr, ive lost a lot of runs to asterius

[half zephyr]

same

[robust scaffold]

hes a cool bull though

[half zephyr]

well, until baby

baby file has first encounter with em3 now

well soon

first is em2

I miss Lernie

They're still Lernean Bone Hydra

[signal aspen]

it took me like 100 runs to get zag to call bone hydra lernie

on my hell mode save

[half zephyr]

well, this is just a normal one

[robust scaffold]

u counted it o.o

[signal aspen]

no

but i recently got zag to call bone hydra lernie

[half zephyr]

and hypnos counted for you

[signal aspen]

and i have about 100 runs on my hell mode save

[robust scaffold]

oh

why u do hv a hell mode and a non hell mode save though

[signal aspen]

no it says how many runs i have on the save file

[half zephyr]

sad

[robust scaffold]

just take it from online

[half zephyr]

hypnos is good at counting when he wants to be

[signal aspen]

i play on it when i am bored

[half zephyr]

for fun?

why else

[signal aspen]

yeah

[robust scaffold]

u do everything the same though

[half zephyr]

I mean, I have one I use for heat training, but it's still fun

[robust scaffold]

theres no difference

[half zephyr]

and??

have you never replayed a game?

[signal aspen]

if im bored ill just hop on to my hell mode save and do like 40 heat mirrorless or something

i never win

but

its fun

[half zephyr]

I'm having fun seeing how much I've improved

[robust scaffold]

not really lol

[half zephyr]

on my first file I took 29 runs to get 1st clear

on baby I took 11

[robust scaffold]

nice

i have like 300 runs and only like 40 victories xd

[half zephyr]

I'm running multiple heat runs without having unlocked all mirror talents

it's fun

[zinc musk]

Yeah it’s awesome running thru bosses that obliterated you like they’re nothing

[viscid cape]

Guys how do I get hermes, demeter, and aphrodite to open up to me so I can give them ambrosia. They are all im missing to max out on bonds

[half zephyr]

demeter do epilogue

aphrodite needs 2/3 love bonds I think

hermes keepsake?

[signal aspen]

for hermes you need to max his keepsake and talk to him, for dem you need to complete epilogue, and for aphro you need to get bonds with dusa, than, and meg

[viscid cape]

Bet I got those done

[half zephyr]

there's this thing called

[viscid cape]

Okay thanks

[half zephyr]

dialogue rng
that comes after

[viscid cape]

😔

[manic bobcat]

But but you are playing Hades, which almost by definition requires replaying.

[robust scaffold]

i dont see the point in restarting all the meta progress though

[signal aspen]

its fun

[half zephyr]

it's fun & to be more efficient

[robust scaffold]

sadly i dont like grinding

[half zephyr]

but

it's just playing the game

you do the exact same things

it's just fun

[robust scaffold]

except u have to do all the quests again :(

no mirror and all

[half zephyr]

and?

there's a heat for no mirror too

[robust scaffold]

yea but im not trying to do RI4

[half zephyr]

and I'm excited doing all the prophecies again since I haven't had any for a while

woo

this selection

[signal aspen]

i dont care about the quests

i just do dumb challenges

[half zephyr]

Epic passion dash
Sweet Nectar
Unhealthy Fixation

[robust scaffold]

cant u do dumb challenges on ur main save too

[half zephyr]

time for legendary~

[signal aspen]

...yes

[half zephyr]

who says he doesn't?

aaah

[manic bobcat]

It's fine to enjoy the game however you likr

[half zephyr]

and patty is there to give me my dd back ❤️

[manic bobcat]

But I do challenges on my main account

[half zephyr]

[signal aspen]

well for a fresh file run i need to start a new file

because

fresh file

[half zephyr]

ye

I need to get better at no mirror aspect less sword

[manic bobcat]

Freshfile is boring. Can't do it.

[half zephyr]

yessssss

[manic bobcat]

Respect to fresh file speedrunners.

[half zephyr]

masked theseus is back

I've missed his stupid face

[manic bobcat]

How do you know it's Theseus if he is masked?

[signal aspen]

yeah

[half zephyr]

he opened his mouth

and talked

[manic bobcat]

Touche lmao

[half zephyr]

I've missed his laugh so much

hmmm

lost my dds tho

so maybe not quite ready for 16 yet

[signal aspen]

nice

[half zephyr]

then again - got bad rarity boons where it counts

[signal aspen]

bruh

[half zephyr]

let's see if I can even survive styx

[signal aspen]

you dont even need boons for 16 heat

[half zephyr]

it's zag fist

and plume

[signal aspen]

did i stutter

[half zephyr]

I wanted some decent hermes

instead I got basic rush & basic evasion

[signal aspen]

nice

hermes gives me too many common boons

[half zephyr]

mhm

[signal aspen]

and i get most of them during speedruns

[half zephyr]

alas

I died

but

then I can just try again =w=

I feel like I can make it work

[signal aspen]

nice

[half zephyr]

I'm probably not running a good combo

HL1 + LC1 + EM3 + CP1 + FO2 + TD1

but it's a fun one

[signal aspen]

bruh

[half zephyr]

wha

[signal aspen]

why are you running that pact

[half zephyr]

which one

[signal aspen]

this

[robust scaffold]

lol

which one

[half zephyr]

for fun?

[signal aspen]

put on bp2

since its "fun"

[half zephyr]

like I said, it's not a good one

ooh, true

[signal aspen]

but its fun

[half zephyr]

put it on!

now it's 21 tho

[signal aspen]

take off em3

[half zephyr]

to EM1?

[signal aspen]

em2

[half zephyr]

hmm

ok

18

[signal aspen]

take off lc and cp

[half zephyr]

sad

but yay 16

I had them on cuz I was kinda missing them from my hell mode file

[signal aspen]

cp not that good

[half zephyr]

wasn't gonna put on JS tho - not with plume

[signal aspen]

even though i always play with it

[half zephyr]

ye, I was just missing my hell mode file

but ok, I'll take break & then I can run this later

see if I'll make it to Hades

[crude surge]

cp isn't bad for ike 32+ though

[signal aspen]

no

extra health bad

most people will avoid using it

[robust scaffold]

yea theres no need to take it

until like 45 maybe or 50

[signal aspen]

yeah

[half zephyr]

unless you wanna get the prophecy before that

[signal aspen]

yeah

[half zephyr]

there's one thing I don't like about playing on my lite vs my normal switch

and that's the missing rumble when fishing

I actually have to pay more attention >.<

[twin moat]

What's this

[signal aspen]

heat

[twin moat]

Ooo

Hades?

[signal aspen]

uh

yes

this is #h1-discussion

[twin moat]

Oh wow

[signal aspen]

yeah i know its crazy

[twin moat]

How did I end up on this server

[signal aspen]

you clicked on it

[twin moat]

I thought I clicked in a completely different one

But hey

I'm not disappointed

[signal aspen]

bruh

[twin moat]

[viscid cape]

?

Accidentally joined a server

[unborn remnant]

[twin moat]

Nah I was here before, but I thought I clicked in a different one

Lool

[twin moat]

Em4 stonks

[half zephyr]

Hard Labor 1 + Lasting Consequences 1 + Extreme Measures 3 + Calisthenics Program 1 + Forced Overtime 2 + Tight Deadline 1

[tidal basalt]

Does a chaos gate count as an extra room, or does it replace another room? Like if I were going to get 10 room rewards in Tartarus, would a chaos gate make it 11, or still 10?

[half zephyr]

it's kinda extra?

depends on when you enter it I think

[buoyant merlin]

tfw you have no mirror upgrades cause you keep refunding for higher health bar symbol rank

[half zephyr]

smh

you just want that hp bar skin eh

[buoyant merlin]

ye

[signal aspen]

just go to the item shop and buy some darkness

[stoic flame]

okay so I have hidden aspects of shield,bow and fists left to unlock

which one should I unlock forst

first

[signal aspen]

shield

[stoic flame]

what does it do

[modern garnet]

Buy 1000 darkness for $5 usd... or 2500 darkness for $10, what a deal!

[signal aspen]

it loads your casts into your bullrush

the casts explode at the end of your bullrush

it does a lot of damage

[stoic flame]

okay thanks

[signal aspen]

but you take 10% extra damage

[stoic flame]

._.

what about rama

is it good?

[signal aspen]

yeah its good

[half zephyr]

shared suffering

[signal aspen]

yeah

[modern garnet]

Rama is real good

[half zephyr]

tag with special

[stoic flame]

i heard the fists one is kinda okayish

[half zephyr]

gilga

[stoic flame]

yes

[half zephyr]

you deal more dmg w maim, but you take more dmg

also dashes for everyone

[signal aspen]

your special applies a debuff called shared suffering, enemies with shared suffering take damage everytime any enemy gets hit with your attack

[modern garnet]

Both hidden bow and hidden shield mostly get good when you level them up...

[stoic flame]

sounds broken

[half zephyr]

it's slow

like arthur

[stoic flame]

uh oh

[signal aspen]

ye the attack is slow

[half zephyr]

but unlike arthur there's no field to slow everyone else down

[stoic flame]

but it must be better than the other ones

because im not feeling any of them

[half zephyr]

best bet is to spam special if you can't get used to the atk

but that's not using it right

[signal aspen]

ye thats what i did for my first rama clear

[half zephyr]

cuz shared suffering is the point

[stoic flame]

hmm

[half zephyr]

just get them all

and max them all

and try them all

[stoic flame]

ez

im going for rama first

lets see

[half zephyr]

artemis

good luck!

[stoic flame]

thanks

i didnt realise how broken hera with artemis cast is until now

[craggy vapor]

Why is it when Thanatos appears and you do the little challenge the timer is paused, but during the time of him teleporting by the exit, dropping the heart, and then waiting for the door to unlock, the timer continues to countdown? Is that intentional? I feel like it should remain paused.

[half zephyr]

[signal aspen]

im pretty sure thats intentional

[half zephyr]

it's annoying for sure when he just flies around in a sort of half circle trying to find a place to dump his heart

like, I'm on a timer here Than..

[craggy vapor]

It is rather annoying, I would rather the whole chamber be paused similar to meeting with Sys or Eurydice

[signal aspen]

yeah it can get annoying

but if you stand near the exit and collect something like a boon or a pom and wait in the selection screen than will drop the heart and teleport away, that can save a little bit of time

[craggy vapor]

ooooo, clever

[hollow hawk]

You can also fish

If there is a fish nearby

That stops the timer, but usually than shouldn't take more than 6-8 seconds to drop the heart and leave.

[craggy vapor]

Got it

[dire yacht]

Just 31-0'd Than, I feel better than I should

[crude surge]

nice

[stoic flame]

holy bologna rama attack is painfully slow

almost unusable

[dire yacht]

Yeah it feels that way at first for sure

It's not as bad as it seems, but takes a bit to get used to

[modern garnet]

You don't even have explosive shot on it yet.... now THAT'S a weapon

[dire yacht]

And by a bit I mean a good bit

[half zephyr]

special

[dire yacht]

The damage makes up for it

[half zephyr]

you have to tag with special

[stoic flame]

special yes

[half zephyr]

then atk

[dire yacht]

Get the double shot or whatever from hammers and damage can get insane

[half zephyr]

shared suffering is everything

[dire yacht]

Not triple shot though

Triple shot bad

[half zephyr]

unless you just wanna spam special

[stoic flame]

thats the strat

[half zephyr]

well, have fun using rama, but not fully

but if it's the first run that's usually how it goes

[stoic flame]

such is the way

[crude surge]

make sure your dash striking

[stoic flame]

i havent even used it just tried it on skelly

[viscid cape]

Just told my sister that she will have to fight thanatos if she doesnt beat him. She believed me 😈

[dire yacht]

Dash strike speeds up charge but is less damage

[stoic flame]

i see

[signal aspen]

Bruh triple shot is the best hammers for rama

[dire yacht]

Nani

[stoic flame]

is it like substantially faster or just so so faster

[viscid cape]

I like point blank

[dire yacht]

Man it felt like garbage to me, way too spread out

[signal aspen]

If you go close to the enemies you can land all three shots on them

[dire yacht]

That's all well and good except the slow charge

I prefer the 800 or so damage I can get from the double shot

[signal aspen]

Ye it's hard to get used to

[dire yacht]

Maybe I'm just bad

[viscid cape]

oh yeah I like double shot on rama over triple

[unborn remnant]

What is Hades last name

[half zephyr]

why would he have one?

[dire yacht]

Does Zeus have a last name

[signal aspen]

The game

[viscid cape]

TM

[unborn remnant]

Hades Hades?

[dire yacht]

Hades Olympus or something like that probably

Idk

[viscid cape]

©

[unborn remnant]

same energy as Mario Mario and his younger brother, Luigi Mario

[stoic flame]

hades ©️ yes

[dire yacht]

He'd share it with Zeus and Poseidon

[ashen nova]

Dang, I've yet to cheat him 😭 what did you do it with?

[half zephyr]

[dire yacht]

Aspect of Arthur (hidden sword)

Everything died in like 2 hits

[viscid cape]

I get really fast with the gloves on demeter

[stoic flame]

ABRETTE′NUS (Abrettênos), a surname of Zeus in Mysia.

hmm

[half zephyr]

I do it all the time with zag fists

[dire yacht]

Also was lucky with the type of enemies, and Asphodel enemies at that

[stoic flame]

so hades must have the same name

[half zephyr]

no he doesn't

[stoic flame]

shh

[dire yacht]

Zagreus ABRETTE'NUS

[half zephyr]

you're trying to apply mortal logic to gods

[stoic flame]

lao

[half zephyr]

and mythology

[stoic flame]

yes

[viscid cape]

He only needs one name

[stoic flame]

HADES HADES

it is

[half zephyr]

he has his name & then the titles

no one else shares the name

[ashen nova]

Dang, well I'm pretty sure you get a specific round summary line about that. Nice work! :)

[half zephyr]

well, I'll ttyl sometime

I need sleep

[dire yacht]

There is, I think

Seemed like it was

[stoic flame]

gnight have a good rest

[dire yacht]

Oh hey, I got Asterius' autograph

Maybe that terrible fight against them last time was worth it

[ashen nova]

Yay! Hypnos will be so happy

[simple thistle]

What's the highest dodge % you can get?

[modern garnet]

100%

but only with temporary effects

[green maple]

What's the best build for chiron

[vernal mulch]

anybody have any tips for defeating ||meg?|| am using the bow

[hollow hawk]

Stay far from her, use dash-strikes instead of just attacking normally (dash strikes are faster and give you more dps).

[hollow hawk]

Artemis special with aprodite attack, and go for heartrend

[green maple]

Artie?

Oh wait

Heart rend literally works on anything

[hollow hawk]

yep

Its such a good duo

[green maple]

Can i have like a funnier or like a much unique build

I tried zeus but

[hollow hawk]

There's also another fun build, with dionysus special and aphro attack. You go for dio-aphro duo, low tolerance

zeus sucks

[green maple]

Dio special with aphro attack for...?

Ohhhhh

[hollow hawk]

You should also try to get curse of nausea (dio-ares duo) and splitting headache (dio-artemis duo) if you can

[green maple]

Idk i literally stopped playing after heat 13 and i rusted too much

[hollow hawk]

there's a lot of fun stuff, don't stop playing

If you're getting bored i can recommend some stuff to do

[green maple]

I died at meg with 8 heat LMAO

[hollow hawk]

Oh

[green maple]

I rusted way too much

[hollow hawk]

Uh what pact options are you using

[green maple]

So im getting back to 5 great

5 heat im like

[vernal mulch]

heat?

[hollow hawk]

extreme measures, tight deadline, middle management are usually good ones

[hollow hawk]

Its something you unlock after your first clear

[vernal mulch]

ah

[green maple]

Deadline is pretty much free unless it becomes td2

[hollow hawk]

This channel will have spoilers like that, so i recommend you to stay in #h1-for-new-players btw

[hollow hawk]

deadline is also free at td2 if you know how to play it 👀

[green maple]

WHAT

JSJSJSJ

[vernal mulch]

okie

[hollow hawk]

It's also free at td3 👀

if you know how to play it

[green maple]

And well i was so bored that i wanted to try like a

All in poseidon build

But i never get it properly

[hollow hawk]

uh

on what aspect

[green maple]

Sword

Any aspect works

[hollow hawk]

no

Just dont

Lol

[green maple]

Okay LMAO

[hollow hawk]

Poseidon on melee aspects isnt the best

[green maple]

Then which

I mean if i use ranged it just

Pushed them outta range

[hollow hawk]

Do you have hidden gun aspect?

[green maple]

Yeah

[hollow hawk]

Use thay

That

[green maple]

For...knockbacks...??

That sounds weird af

[hollow hawk]

Lucifer with poseidon attack is so fun to play, the build has got a name "Supersoaker"

Its really fun trust me

[green maple]

Alright

What do i need to build

[hollow hawk]

With it, you should try to get sea storm (pos-zeus duo)

and a lot of poseidon boons in general

Especially razor shoals and breaking wave are good ones

[green maple]

Alright

So looks like you want to push them into walls?

[hollow hawk]

yep

[viscid cape]

Its pretty stupid if u get the zues+poseidon duo sea storm

[green maple]

Does it get that good

[hollow hawk]

Yeah that's what i said

[viscid cape]

Yeah and if u get double strike

[green maple]

Holy hell

[viscid cape]

🥵

[green maple]

Which dael would i need

[viscid cape]

AND ZEUS LEGENDARY

[hollow hawk]

You can also just use zeus attack with lucifer instead of getting sea storm, but its not as fun

[green maple]

A zeus legendary?

Eh?

[hollow hawk]

Eh triple bomb is usually very good on lucifer

[green maple]

Oh

[hollow hawk]

Just dont pick eternal chamber

and you're good

[green maple]

I never properly bomb on lucifer

[viscid cape]

Everytime lightning hits oppenents it drops a lightning ball

[green maple]

[hollow hawk]

Splitting bolt, is the name

[green maple]

I know but why would i get that on a poseidon build

[hollow hawk]

You can check the prerequisites in the codex menu

After you get sea storm

[viscid cape]

Cause duo boon is lightning

[hollow hawk]

Then you get the legendary

[green maple]

Yeah i know how the game works i just want wanky builds

[hollow hawk]

have you tried merciful end btw?

on any aspect

[green maple]

YES

SO OP

[hollow hawk]

ah good

Yeah

[green maple]

LIKE WHAT THE HECK

[viscid cape]

Its pretty dumb

[green maple]

I never tried the zeus x ares dup

[viscid cape]

Just get that hermes attack speed increase and extra dashes 😳

[green maple]

Which was like

[hollow hawk]

zeus ares duo isnt that great

[green maple]

Vengeance meme build

[hollow hawk]

Its good if you're going for a full vengeance build

Yeah

[viscid cape]

Curse of vengance?

[hollow hawk]

But its not like run changing on a normal run

[viscid cape]

Ehh i only ever get like 1 vengance boon a run

[green maple]

I never choose vengeance boons tho

[hollow hawk]

@viscid cape no, it makes your vengeance boons trigger every 3 seconds automatically

[green maple]

I dont like it

[hollow hawk]

i cant remember the name

@green maple Vengeance boons are pretty decent