obviously you want to at least save rerolls for chaos defiance when you get the chance
#h1-discussion
craggy barn
iron loom
have it on
signal aspen
nice
tribal mulch
does pers have special dialogue if you beat the game on the first run?
iron loom
does pers have special dialogue if you beat the game on the first run?
i think hades does?
tribal mulch
or anyone else besides Meg for that matter
tribal mulch
i think hades does?
ooo really?
iron loom
might be mistaken tho
signal aspen
hades does
iron loom
not 100% sure
signal aspen
idk about anybody else
tribal mulch
what does he say?
tribal mulch
oh
craggy barn
i think it's only hades
void vigil
its very slightly different iirc
https://youtu.be/VKepf4jyn4o?t=1343
you can see it here (timestamped) if you pause to read
iron loom
wait why am i not suiciding to asterius and the other one always?
I mean there's no chaos on Styx anyway so there's no point getting past that
winrate is going way down yall lets go
signal aspen
nice
unborn remnant
Many new people are gonna join the server if the PS4 version drops
that'll be fun
another generation of players to teach
iron loom
i hope you succeed soon, for the good of your sanity
had 2 runs today with 3 chaos encounters and multiple rerolls...nothing yet.hope i get it soon
hollow hawk
Many new people are gonna join the server if the PS4 version drops
Is there news of a ps4 version? Someone else was talking about it yesterday too
brisk trail
if that happens im gonna feel like ive graduated
been a while since i graduated from anything so itll be nice
tribal mulch
whaaaa
signal aspen
yeah
ashen nova
Yup! They talk about you fishing sometimes
unborn remnant
we do a little fishing
ashen nova
I'm so confused as to how Lucifer fits into canon
brisk trail
guns are bad
ashen nova
Yeah the gun already felt out of place, and Satan gun feels... very out of place lol
unborn remnant
is it supposed to really fit?
ashen nova
I mean the other ones seem like they could work with canon at least... can't get the idea of zag fighting jesus out of my head now though lol
tribal mulch
I'm so confused as to how Lucifer fits into canon
Lucifer, Gilgamesh, Beowulf, Guan Yu, Rama, Arthur
iron loom
purge those unholy
stiff musk
i want a laser beam
ashen nova
The aspect itself is fine
signal aspen
aspect of lucifer is good
signal aspen
nice
iron loom
none of the rail's aspects seem to fit my playstyle well enough
sticking to the other weapons just feels better
ashen nova
The only thing I've liked has been the hazard bomb
signal aspen
hazard bomb is fine
ashen nova
Haven't had a run with Satan gun yet, though I'm optimistic about it
signal aspen
i always use artemis special on rail so having the hazard bomb deal crit damage to me is annoying
but it can deal a bunch of damage
ashen nova
I totally cheese it and just hole up in a corner to spam them
tribal mulch
imagine an artemis boon that makes all backstabes critical
signal aspen
imagine an artemis boon that makes all backstabes critical
that would be dumb
iron loom
the only way i can enjoy playing with the rail is the "no reloading" hammer upgrade
tribal mulch
wait how did you get a different border
iron loom
otherwise its just hell
iron loom
wait how did you get a different border
themes
tribal mulch
themes?
signal aspen
wait how did you get a different border
buy all work orders and get bonds with certain characters
tribal mulch
the only way i can enjoy playing with the rail is the "no reloading" hammer upgr...
bruh
signal aspen
imagine an artemis boon that makes all backstabes critical
thats a dumb boon because i got this build
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/835545407572017152/Screenshot_183.png
too much damage if that was a thing
iron loom
all those chaos encounters
signal aspen
yeah
iron loom
GIMME
signal aspen
and no legendary boon
brisk trail
oh my god
signal aspen
yeah
brisk trail
man you mustve been doing thousands of damage on a backstab easily
signal aspen
~1800 without cast, 1910 with cast
ashen nova
Lord
iron loom
crit build with arthur + athena backstab damage was cool
brisk trail
imagine if you had artemis
iron loom
nice 2000 hits on dad
brisk trail
crit build with arthur + athena backstab damage was cool
this tbh
signal aspen
imagine if you had artemis
yeah
brisk trail
deadly strike + phalanx shot
brisk trail
deadly strike + phalanx shot
or divine dash would work as well, for the exposed buff
iron loom
dad fight lasted 2 min or something
had a gilgamesh run with lots of +special damage that lasted either that or less
god what a fun run that was
signal aspen
had a gilgamesh run with lots of +special damage that lasted either that or less
gross
brisk trail
the first gilgamesh run i did i just had deadly strike and curse of agony (?) (if thats the one for special i get them mixed up
tribal mulch
thats a dumb boon because i got this build
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...
i really wish you could "loop" and do one run forever
signal aspen
yeah lmao
tribal mulch
or like had a choice to fight the underworld area boss or keep going
but that might be broken
just staying in tarland forever and getting stupidly strong
signal aspen
well you can technically loop and do one run forever with the give up button
void vigil
i finally beat another 20 heat run on the rail! ...but i only cleared the bounties for 7 heat with that, so i have to do it again now, and again, and again... until i reach 20
signal aspen
nice
void vigil
i find rail really difficult
iron loom
me too
void vigil
you basically have to get a really specific build going or youre not going to win, at least for me
iron loom
actually nah i hate it fr
iron loom
you basically have to get a really specific build going or youre not going to wi...
same here
signal aspen
rail is a really good weapon but its probably the hardest weapon to play
void vigil
maybe its because of the 20 heat though
iron loom
is there dialogue for a max heat clear?
iron loom
😦
signal aspen
were you gonna do 64 heat for some dialogue?
iron loom
yeah
iron loom
I mean if there was SOMETHING, at least dialogue, I'd do it
Only doing 32 heat for the statue but some dialogue would suffice also
signal aspen
32 heat has some dialogue
iron loom
I mean I have to do it for the statue anyway
but nice, extra dialogue is always welcome 🙂
iron loom
I mean I have to do it for the statue anyway
can't say I 100%'d the game if I don't get all themes, prophecies and statues at least
max heat tho thats a no go lol
signal aspen
can't say I 100%'d the game if I don't get all themes, prophecies and statues at...
100% is gonna take a while
if you wanna 100% the game then you gotta get all the badges
and you need 300k darkness for that
iron loom
100% is gonna take a while
only 1 prophecy left, a successful 32 heat run and then just spam til I buy the themes
iron loom
and you need 300k darkness for that
um, come again?
signal aspen
and you need 300k darkness for that
iron loom
badges you mean the things you buy from the dude in hades's bedroom?
signal aspen
yeah
iron loom
ah no screw that lmao not doing it
i mean, after i get all themes, ill keep playing, sure. So one day I guess all the badges will come
signal aspen
325k darkness, 100 keys, 50 nectar, 10 diamonds, 10 ambrosia, and 10 titan blood for all those badges
iron loom
but at least for me im good with not having all badges and still counting it as 100%
iron loom
325k darkness, 100 keys, 50 nectar, 10 diamonds, 10 ambrosia, and 10 titan blood...
all the other things are easy enough but 325K darkness is a bit much lmao
void vigil
i decided im probably not going to go for badges, unless i have all the resources just by playing naturally. i like my healthbar as it is anyway
iron loom
i decided im probably not going to go for badges, unless i have all the resource...
same here, if i get the darkness by just playing, fine, if not, thats fine too
void vigil
and i dont play as often anymore and dont get darkness very often... so idk if its going to happen... pain
i forget they exist though
signal aspen
yeah im definitely not gonna get all the badges
its gonna take me way too long
and im probably gonna move on to another game by then
iron loom
if there was a way to sell other resources for darkness after the epilogue or smth, maybe?
signal aspen
trading with the wretched broker
iron loom
if the prices were good enough
iron loom
trading with the wretched broker
i mean selling all of the resources for differents amounts of darkness
sometimes you get that one time deal i guess but
325K is still a lot
if I have a chaos boon that hasn't had it's "bad effect" removed yet, does it still counts toward the "1 chaos boon" requirement for defiance to appear?
it should, right?
signal aspen
i think you need to get the good effect for it to count
idk
when you get a chaos boon with a bad effect check the codex and see if it counts
iron loom
k, that's just mean 
signal aspen
lmao
i actually havent gotten the boon in a while
its probably been a couple weeks
brisk trail
ive been offered it like 4 times, i only actually took it twice
iron loom
btw I have the "boons have 10% chance to be legendary" thing from nyx too
pretty sure I had more than 50 encounters with chaos where it was possible to get it but didn't
signal aspen
nice
karmic hare
LUCK INCREASED -5
signal aspen
LUCK INCREASED -5
nice
brisk trail
@signal aspensays nice to literally everything
signal aspen
nice
brisk trail
because everything related to this game is nice
iron loom
bless them
iron loom
because everything related to this game is nice
yes I'd like to disagree
karmic hare
btw Yom which aspect(s)
unborn remnant
Hades but your stats decrease in every chamber
craggy badge
Hi! any plans for a mobile port ?
signal aspen
Hi! any plans for a mobile port ?
karmic hare
Hades but your stats decrease in every chamber
Hades but I'm eating greese covered pizza
brisk trail
btw Yom which aspect(s)
i think what i said applies to pretty much any aspect that youd go for ME on
anything that ive used it on at least
signal aspen
most of the time if you are going for a ME build you are going to be using fists
brisk trail
most of the time if you are going for a ME build you are going to be using fists
or sword, or very occasionally spear
signal aspen
or sword, or very occasionally spear
ME GUAN YU
crude surge
if you just yeet the spinny thing
signal aspen
ME guan yu is an actual thing tho
crude surge
and special
iron loom
first hidden aspect I unlocked was guan yu and was so hyped I maxed it out with all the blood I had
crude surge
I actually want to try that now lol
brisk trail
GY is one of the most fun aspects for me personally
iron loom
big F for past me
signal aspen
first hidden aspect I unlocked was guan yu and was so hyped I maxed it out with ...
well you kinda have to unlock guan yu to get the other hidden aspects so its gonna have to be your first hidden aspect
brisk trail
unfortunately ive had to do like 20 GY runs recently trying for 32 spear
iron loom
well you kinda have to unlock guan yu to get the other hidden aspects so its gon...
oh, didn't know that, thought it was random
brisk trail
and then in the end i did it with achilles -_-
signal aspen
oh, didn't know that, thought it was random
ye its not random
iron loom
hades is my favorite aspect in the whole game freaking thing is so good
brisk trail
oh, didn't know that, thought it was random
nah, cause you get the dialogue from achilles and he sorta explains the whole hidden aspect stuff
signal aspen
you have to unlock guan yu first before you can unlock anything else
iron loom
oh ok
crude surge
Guan Yu is fun just not very good imo
brisk trail
Guan Yu is fun just not very good imo
why not?
signal aspen
Guan Yu is fun just not very good imo
it can be good
iron loom
true
crude surge
idk forfiting half your health kinda hurts
signal aspen
dont get hit
brisk trail
Hmm
crude surge
For a healing move that you shouldn't even be building around
iron loom
dont get hit
dude's a genius
brisk trail
Gun ME build? Hear me out
signal aspen
dude's a genius
*genius
iron loom
that's what i said 
crude surge
dont get hit
why didn't I think of that
brisk trail
idk forfiting half your health kinda hurts
but you have built in lifesteal that goes beyond LC, even LC4
signal aspen
that's what i said <:ajfingerguns:459075377650728960>
you cannot trick me
signal aspen
but you have built in lifesteal that goes beyond LC, even LC4
exactly, thats why quick recovery is the best hermes boon
crude surge
why didn't I think of that
Gilgamesh is now best aspect 100%
Yeah LC4 gives it a purpose at least
iron loom
Gilgamesh is now best aspect 100%
personally I think arthur is broken, gilgamesh is hella good but hades is the most fun one
brisk trail
arthur is quite strong
signal aspen
guan yu good
iron loom
oh and zagreus's fists + plume is just a real good time
crude surge
Gilg bad
iron loom
rama is great too
brisk trail
oh and zagreus's fists + plume is just a real good time
i assume this is zag fists
iron loom
i assume this is zag fists
yeye
crude surge
imo it just has a clunky combo and a weak dash strike even though it gives you more dashes which is kinda sad.
signal aspen
gilg is slow, dash strikes deal no damage, and the special is dumb
crude surge
Like with any sword besides arthur at least you have your dash attack combo
iron loom
gilg with more dashes from hermes and poseidon strike is SO FUN THO
brisk trail
guan yu better for butterfly runs
I ain't have Guan Yu yet 😩
giving enemies more damage is not something you want in an aspect
signal aspen
I ain't have Guan Yu yet 😩
bruh
brisk trail
btw i think youve told me this before but @signal aspen how many hours do you have in hades/
?*
crude surge
One good thing about Gilg is that you can actually use ruthless reflex
signal aspen
btw i think youve told me this before but <@!624733446459228160> how many hours ...
almost 300
brisk trail
btw i think youve told me this before but <@!624733446459228160> how many hours ...
i only ask cause you were like one of the first people i saw in this server a few weeks back and you had a whole bunch of high heat runs and i was like "woah"
brisk trail
almost 300
nice
signal aspen
nice
brisk trail
One good thing about Gilg is that you can actually use ruthless reflex
for all the good it does you
signal aspen
hades is one of the most replayable games i have played in my life
iron loom
how is a heat condition not deactivating the fountains between regions?
brisk trail
hades is one of the most replayable games i have played in my life
this tbh
iron loom
screw it deactivating the whole room
crude surge
I mean what RogueLike isn't replayable
signal aspen
lasting consequences
brisk trail
screw it deactivating the whole room
theres heat for forcing a boon purge every area
brisk trail
whats lc4 sorry lol
-100% healing
iron loom
oh ok but like
signal aspen
I mean what RogueLike isn't replayable
bad roguelikes
your game has to be good for it to be replayable
iron loom
-100% healing
ok did not know that was a thing
crude surge
It's hard to argue with hes acescment
brisk trail
your game has to be good for it to be replayable
this is absolutely fax
brisk trail
It's hard to argue with hes acescment
... did you mean... assessment
brisk trail
its ok
dw about it
i understood the sentiment
the only other roguelike ive played anywhere close to as much as ive played hades is nuclear throne
and let me tell you, that game slaps
but thats for general discussion, not here
stiff musk
the only other roguelite i have played is ftl
and flash isaac ig but only two or three times in a class
brisk trail
Dead Cells also slaps but it's way harder than Hades imo
iron loom
best roguelike is outer wilds
brisk trail
Noita is also nice if you like frustration
sinful mantle
i wonder if they are going to add more content to this game?
signal aspen
we technically do
sinful mantle
???
signal aspen
how many times have you beaten hades?
sinful mantle
8
half zephyr
fun thing that
signal aspen
but you know what i mean right?
yeah
chilly sonnet
does the no healing pact mean you dont get the health boost from centaur hearts
signal aspen
no
chilly sonnet
like if you pick up a centaur heart would you go from 100/125 to 100/150
brisk trail
you still get health
signal aspen
yeah you still get health
brisk trail
things you can heal from with LC4 on: SD, Cursed slash, draining upper, centaur hearts, that one hermes boon
signal aspen
guan yu, cursed slash, draining upper, centaur hearts, quick recovery, and stubborn roots are ways to heal
chilly sonnet
doesnt guan yu suck tho
brisk trail
no
signal aspen
guan yu is my most used spear aspect
brisk trail
same
actually
maybe zag more, but thats cause i used to do a lot of zag spear when i first started the game
signal aspen
why
crude surge
isn't zag bad for spear
signal aspen
yeah
brisk trail
it doesnt seem bad to a yom that has only played 5 hours
signal aspen
guan yu is better than zag aspect spear
crude surge
When I started out I just assumed any zag aspect was bad lol
cheap or starting thing=bad
signal aspen
not all zag aspects are bad
signal aspen
i just saw that zag rail gave you more ammo and i was like "yes"
i used it in most of my rail runs
at that time
brisk trail
zag fists are goated
signal aspen
zag fists are better than gilg
crude surge
I just always grab delta chaimber when I see it
brisk trail
most things are better than gilg
modern garnet
Arthur is like... the opposite of zag sword
signal aspen
ye
chilly sonnet
achilles with flurry jab and swift strike is one of the best weapons in the game tbh
signal aspen
yeah its great
modern garnet
Achilles is just worse shield :p
brisk trail
Achilles is just worse shield :p
this is fax
other than GY i hate spear
every other weapon has at least 2 aspects i enjoy
signal aspen
spear is good but its still my least favorite weapon
crude surge
how is it worse shield
brisk trail
sword: all aspects are pog sword is the best obv
spear: GY or bust
shield: zeus and beo
bow: rama and hera, chiron can be fun with a good build
fists: zag and demeter
gun: eris and lucifer
signal aspen
i dont like the attack
modern garnet
how is it worse shield
You have the ability to charge into the enemy but you can't block
crude surge
I see
brisk trail
how is it worse shield
youve got the movement of shield but with less damage and a more annoying attack
signal aspen
and the special isnt good
i never use the special unless i am using guan yu or achilles
crude surge
I mean when I hear sheild I just think block
signal aspen
and for achilles i dont even use it for the damage coming from the special
i use it for the buff that applies to the attack or cast
hollow hawk
You have the ability to charge into the enemy but you can't block
Only with achilles though
special dmg on spear aspects (except for guan yu) is terrible without charged skewer on exploding launcher
i cant imagine ever using it on achilles for the dmg though
iron loom
just had a run with 3 chaos encounters, 2 of which had 2 and 3 rerolls respectively
it doesn't exist does it?
iron loom
it's a hell of an elaborate prank
iron loom
no legendary
nope
signal aspen
nice
iron loom
GOT IT
GOT IT
LETS GOOOOOOO
oh my god im so happy
screw chaos never meeting you again
AHH FINALLY
warm turtle
Do chaos boons stack additively or multiplicatively with a special boon and a weapon upgrade?
Do the special boon and weapon upgrade boons stack additively or multiplicatively?
signal aspen
Do chaos boons stack additively or multiplicatively with a special boon and a we...
additively
warm turtle
Hazard bomb stacks additively with special boons too, right?
signal aspen
same thing with special boons
signal aspen
Hazard bomb stacks additively with special boons too, right?
ye
warm turtle
that's sad.
signal aspen
what
warm turtle
Was hoping hazard bomb at least stacked multiplicatively
signal aspen
why
warm turtle
big damage, easier time fighting hades
signal aspen
the damage buffs from boons are percents
iron loom
all prophecies completed
signal aspen
nice
iron loom
fina ->>>lly
warm turtle
Targeting system + hazard bomb time
iron loom
also thanks for all your help, really. @signal aspen you're clearly very knowledgeable about the game, thanks again 🙂
signal aspen
300 hours in a game does something to you
iron loom
you and alma helped me out a ton yesterday and today with the completion thing im trying to do lol
warm turtle
god Theseus pulling Athena is such a pain
signal aspen
just kill him
warm turtle
He's hard to dodge…
His spear yeet is hard to evade with the minotaur and all the Athena spikes in play
Plus he blocks like half of my hazard bombs
signal aspen
if hes giving you a hard time you should kill him
reef wharf
^
warm turtle
Of the boon mirror boosts, which ones are good?
signal aspen
most of the purple ones are good
and most of the time i only use yellow mirror upgrades for the bottom four
signal aspen
oh im dumb
warm turtle
Green or purple
signal aspen
it depends on what you are going for
if you dont need duos or legendary boons then gods pride is better
if you need duos then gods legacy is better
if your build doesnt have any curses then family favorite is better
if your build has 2 or more curses then privileged status is better
warm turtle
For gun builds what are some good duos
I know Dionysus Ares is decent
Since it makes your poisons hit more often
signal aspen
im not gonna list all the good ones
void vigil
you and alma helped me out a ton yesterday and today with the completion thing i...
Today WAS the day!! :D yay
signal aspen
but ill list the ones that are bad
curse of drowning, cold embrace, freezing vortex, ice wine is fine, and unshakeable mettle isnt that great
pure dove
Is it ok to make earrings (or other handmade stuff) with art from game?
brisk trail
Exclusive Access is also based
south comet
once I filled the requirements for aspect of arthur, do I just have to play until nyx decides to tell me about the aspect?
signal aspen
once I filled the requirements for aspect of arthur, do I just have to play unti...
Ye
sturdy phoenix
livid canyon
soeone mind explain me wat greater inferno do
i still dont really understand it till now
im doing triple bom artemis on lucy
got triple bom
do i take targetting system or
greter inferno
brisk trail
targeting system tbh
livid canyon
wat does greater inferno even do
brisk trail
iirc greater inferno only affects the little pulse your special bombs give off
brisk trail
yeah
south comet
really proxy
livid canyon
i gues ice mines
south comet
Ye
I thought I somehow screwed it up when Nyx didn't talk about the aspect the first time around
so that's good to know
brisk trail
what did you try already
signal aspen
I thought I somehow screwed it up when Nyx didn't talk about the aspect the firs...
Yeah getting the correct dialogue for hidden aspects takes a while
south comet
Yeah getting the correct dialogue for hidden aspects takes a while
it didn't for guan yu
signal aspen
It's just rng
It might take 1 attempt to get guan Yu but it might take 30 for arthur
livid canyon
yee i did try ice beam
brisk trail
you didn't try zeus, seastorm, heartrend or dio yet?
warm turtle
Blade rifts are really just frisbees of doom
signal aspen
Ye
warm turtle
If only I could make them inflict hangover
livid canyon
you didn't try zeus, seastorm, heartrend or dio yet?
tried all except hearttrend which idk wat it is ig aphro
dio and seastorm are my 2 fav,zeus is meh since the nerf
brisk trail
the nerf?
signal aspen
Heartrend is aphro artemis
brisk trail
also like
signal aspen
It makes crits deal 150% extra damage to weak enemies
warm turtle
What does zeus shield do exactly
void vigil
Hell yeah, I got the onion dialogue :D
livid canyon
no i lov using Luci it's my number 1 weapon
im just trying to find new builds that work///
i tried merciful end on it
didnt go really well
signal aspen
Go artemis special triple bomb if you haven't already
modern garnet
Yeah both luci attacks don't hit instantly so it's a weak ME carrier
modern garnet
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
signal aspen
Because it is illegal
livid canyon
why
signal aspen
Because sending images will break the law
iron loom
is there a channel here to talk about small glitches/bugs?
livid canyon
i failed 4 50 heats runs already
any tips
or maybe Luci just isnt the right weapon-
livid canyon
hm ight
ig that was too much of a distance//
i jump from 16 to 32
and still won so
i was thinking of going a bit further
brisk trail
heat difficulty goes up exponentially thats why
modern garnet
Heat seems to be all about avoiding your least favorite heat
Means that 60 is way way harder than 50
warm turtle
How do you survive hades laser
signal aspen
Means that 60 is way way harder than 50
Damn that's crazy
warm turtle
Those things aim lock me
uncut dagger
How do you survive hades laser
if you have Aegis, block
warm turtle
I use gun
modern garnet
Hide behind big pillar
uncut dagger
if you don't, hide behind pillars
signal aspen
How do you survive hades laser
You can either hide behind the two rocks or you can hug him extremely closely
crude surge
hug is very risky though
also first half you can go behind him
but in the seccond half it goes all around him and you have to hide
south comet
is the aspect of poseidon any good?
uncut dagger
I think it's good for cast-focused builds
signal aspen
Ye it's good
south comet
cuz I run boiling blood
uncut dagger
given that it's special dislodges
south comet
so removing casts from foes doesn't feel like it's a good idea
uncut dagger
what's boiling blood again?
signal aspen
When you play poseidon you are just throwing your casts, taking them out, and throwing them again
south comet
increases damage when enemies have casts in them
uncut dagger
oh yeah
signal aspen
That's why it has that cast damage buff
uncut dagger
Poseidon would be counter-intuitive
crude surge
There are other ways to use cast besides boiling blood
signal aspen
There are other ways to use cast besides boiling blood
Ye but why
crude surge
Like if your using posiedon
then cast is probably better off as a damage source
instead of a buff
signal aspen
Oh I thought you were talking about abyssal blood
signal aspen
No
crude surge
Its sad bc every other miror talent you can make a case for both sides really
warm turtle
What's abyssal blood again?
brisk trail
Alternate for Boiling Blood.
signal aspen
Enemies with casts in them move slower and deal less damage
brisk trail
I wanna say Abyssal Blood does have some uses.
Boiling Blood only increases damage for your direct Attacks and Specials.
It doesn't boost Cast damage, lightning, Doom, or Hangover, Dash or Call damage.
Dropping Dad's speed on FO2 is pretty clutch.
crude surge
ending the fight earlier is also clutch though
brisk trail
Unless your DPS is based on Lightning or Doom.
signal aspen
I don't think it's as useful as boiling blood
warm turtle
Artemis call is hilariously good
signal aspen
Haha artemis go bonk
crude surge
brrr
iron loom
keepsake recommendations for a 32 heat arthur run?
nothing gods related i guess, that doesn't matter too much
signal aspen
Are you running lc4?
signal aspen
Then your keepsakes should be
God -> coin purse or pom -> acorn or tooth -> acorn
iron loom
nice, was thinking of going pom on asphodel
acorn on hades? never tried that, should give it a go
glad leaf
when the adamant rail is sus
warm turtle
Is deadly strike on adamant rail good
warm turtle
Ew, hammer downgrade
brisk trail
Good boon build/ gods for aspect of chiron bow?
signal aspen
what do yall think of DC1
It's good on fast hitting weapons
south comet
is spear considered a fast hitting weapon
signal aspen
Good boon build/ gods for aspect of chiron bow?
Ares attack, dio special, aphro dash, curse of longing, low tolerance, and curse of nausea
brisk trail
Thx
south comet
I just choked the hades bossfight twice in a row ffs
signal aspen
Nice
signal aspen
Nice
signal aspen
Ok
south comet
I get too greedy with fast hitting weapons
I was running poseidon sword and I got the daedalus boon that increases attack speed
AND 30% more from a hermes boon
signal aspen
Nice
brisk trail
Imagine that on gun 👀
crude surge
pew, pew pew
crude surge
delta chamber 👀
brisk trail
reloading doesnt really change the fact that attack speed makes it better. imagine you had infinite attack speed, i.e. all your attacks go at once. that's obviously better than less attack speed, so any attack speed you get is just bringing you closer to that
warm turtle
Also if reloading works like reloading on specials, speed increases reduce reload time
crude surge
reloading just keeps it in check really
because it at least forces you to take a break
iron loom
eyoooo first 32 heat clear
got the statue 
dang 32 statue and chaos legendary boon on the same day
lets gooooo
delicate ember
Got like 2/3rds through hades 2nd phase with bow yesterday. I would have beat him but right at the end of the 3rd boss I used a death defiance
I basically got doom on my bow special and got it really high, and I got the boon that increases doom damage but takes longer
I was doing like 350 doom damage
warm turtle
Frisbees of death are great
sadly I can't get the boons I need to roll them well
Since I rely on an Ares-Artemis duo to keep them on my foes
I can't wait to grab the ramping frisbee of death boon with homing frisbee of death
rose lark
How hard is it to beat the game without boons?
brisk trail
depends what heat you take
rose lark
(if you mod them out ofc)
craggy vapor
Ive seen a few victory screens in that chat without core boons
brisk trail
and what weapon you take
rose lark
Ok
brisk trail
ive done an olympianless run
just chaos and daedalus
it was honestly pretty easy with shackle and hoarding slash
i just stockpiled money and did the same damage as i would with boons and no money
rose lark
Huh, interesting
brisk trail
but with heat it becomes considerably more tough
and you dont have to mod them out, all you have to do is just sell them whenever you get them
rose lark
Makes sense, the base game is way too easy in comparison with 5~6 heat
Ohh, didn't think about that
Never bothered to sell any boons
brisk trail
thats how you get the "100% olympian free" tag on the victory screen
brisk trail
@rose lark
in the end i was doing about 500 damage per dash strike, and around 1500 on a crit
rose lark
Wow
brisk trail
hoarding slash is great
rose lark
Seems like so, that's a lot of damage
north drum
I keep wishing anvil would pay me to buy it
I can't see myself spending gold for that...
brisk trail
anvil is good if you dont get a specific hammer you want
its a great last ditch effort to get 2 new hammers
north drum
good chance to get really screwed 😛
brisk trail
just in case
obviously if youve got a hammer you wanna keep then its probably not a good idea
brisk trail
i do think it shouldnt be so expensive, a hammer that you get to choose is worth 200 in charons shop, and a net positive of 1 hammer is 275 when you dont get to choose?
north drum
yeah
it's also how it randomly takes one
you not only don't pick what you get, you don't pick what it takes
brisk trail
yeah, flurry slash and cursed slash arent fantastic
north drum
huge disadvantages
not flurry slash
I hate the one that makes my special dash forward
and yeah, cursed slash
brisk trail
dash nova
brisk trail
flurry slash messes with the rhythm of dash strikes
sometimes it makes you attack after you end a dash strike
brisk trail
and that can possibly make you take unnecessary hits
brisk trail
but that sounds like a bug
no its just like if you hold down the button too long it buffers an attack
since the attack speed is so high
brisk trail
perhaps
north drum
it doesn't really need to buffer after a dash strike given it's so speedy
brisk trail
thing is, im almost always dash striking anyway, so it doesnt give me any benefits in the first place
so if i get it in a hammer it just a debuff -_-
in an anvil*
warm turtle
I don't pick up anvil
north drum
hammers, in general
debuff or neutral
the other problem with anvil
if I'm trying to get one hammer, it's usually to pair with another I already have 😛
warm turtle
yeah cluster bomb is unplayable without rocket
north drum
50/50, I'll lose the one I wanted to pair it with
brisk trail
anvil is incredibly situational
brisk trail
yeah cluster bomb is unplayable without rocket
really?
north drum
just too situational for its cost imo
cluster bomb is unplayable without either rocket or kb+m
brisk trail
i find its the other way around, rocket is unpayable without cluster
im happy to get cluster on its own
ah, fair enough, im a KBM player
north drum
yeah when you can trivially drop it right on yourself cluster is sooo good
controller doesn't like to aim there
I love how there's no cure for catching cold.
brisk trail
Is it just me or do y'all hate the gun's special if it's not rocket bomb
simple blaze
i like the normal rail special and the rocket too
as some of the above posts say, the normal special only feels weird with cluster bomb
brisk trail
as a KBM player, i prefer regular special to rocket
that being said, deadly flourish + rocket bomb + cluster bomb is my favorite build for gun
unborn remnant
Cluster Bomb goated
cloud orbit
Do you guys think they will make another game similar to hades or like hades 2 lol
brisk trail
Probably not imo
lament night
cloud orbit
True
Do you guys recommend other games that is similar to hades
Really enjoying hades so far
uncut dagger
uhhhhhhhhh
20XX is pretty good
it doesn't really have a story but it's pretty good
I can't really name many roguelites out there that accomplish what Hades does tbh
cloud orbit
Ah I see. Is hades your fav
uncut dagger
although only play 20XX if you like Mega Man X
uncut dagger
Ah I see. Is hades your fav
undoubtedly
it's the only roguelite I can name where dying, for me, wasn't something to discourage me
cloud orbit
Yeah hades is so cool and I usually dont like these kind of games
So if a game can make me like the genre then ots pretty gud
uncut dagger
it still hasn't made me like the genre tbh
the only Roguelites I can say I like are 20XX, 30XX Alpha, and Hades
and also Dead Cells, I like that
the ones I kinda don't like are Gungeon (I respect a lot of things about it I just can't get into it) and Isacc
south comet
demeter gloves is so fun
I'm addicted to gloves now
I just bullied EM1 tisiphone with it
simple blaze
finally, another demeter enjoyer
rose lark
You know... The first game of this genre I played, and absolutely loved, was a flash game called bubble tanks
marsh jackal
so I launched hades on a different computer (cloud saves are enabled) and my save doesn't appear
rose lark
Interestingly, I've yet to see something like it; in the later versions of the game you'd play with community created stuff, against community created stuff
peak zealot
Ok.... I've purchases almost everything in the game, only thing I have left is some ranks from the resource director and the "theme infinite" from the house contractor. My "lounge" section on house contractor is still not checked off. Can anyone think of something I might be missing?
modern garnet
for purchases specifically or just completionism
craggy elm
Anyone know if there's a way to force sync my steam save? I set up cross-saving on my switch, downloaded my save file from steam just fine but then when I do Quit & Sync it won't show up on steam
remote badge
I just stumbled my way into something neat. I turned on god mode bc I'm not very good at video games (lol), and now I'm at a point where I need to raise a bit of heat to get bounties. I realized that hard labor is basically free heat bc god mode resistance has gotten way higher than I need to clear a run, so instead of turning it off, I can just add heat onto hard labor instead and still get those diamonds etc!
odd lake
big brain move 👍🏻
rapid forum
speaking of pact of punishment and god mode
has anyone ever tried beating 64 heat with god mode on?
half zephyr
you can't
rapid forum
well 60?
half zephyr
idk 
rapid forum
hmmmmm
half zephyr
you could try 63
half zephyr
but idk if anyones done it
craggy barn
60 heat godmode unseeded when
rapid forum
64 unseeded when
brisk trail
never 🥺
spiral moon
what would be the easiest pacts for me to beat the game on 32 heat?
brisk trail
check pins in #h1-high-heat-strategies
delicate ember
should i try to beat game on 0 heat with all weapons to get the 10 blood bonus or should i just pick a weapon im good at and grind heat
brisk trail
whatever floats your boat
delicate ember
ok
craggy barn
doesn't really matter
delicate ember
i reckon imma spend all my titan blood on maxing aspect of zeus because i like it
craggy barn
just go the way you feel like going, the blood will roll in regardless
yeah zeus is a great choice
delicate ember
then ill pick the aspect i like for each weapon and max them out
whats the easiest 1 heat?
half zephyr
whats the easiest 1 heat?
If you don’t spend a lot of time on runs - TD1
half zephyr
EM1 is not that bad either
Hmm..
half zephyr
i generally take a while
TD1 will give you 9 minutes in each biome & the leftover time rolls over
Time is paused when you select boons & in certain chambers & after boss battles
delicate ember
thunder flouroish is op with aspect of zeus right?
half zephyr
whats the other option
There’s also the uhm.. aah, can’t remember name - it adds a blue heart (so first hit doesn’t count)
It’s not the best on some weapons, but it’s an easy enough heat
If you feel like experimenting there’s also BP1 or MM
And JS 
At some point you’ll want to have tried them all for a prophecy anyways so you’ll find out which ones you think are easy 
delicate ember
is rare heartbreak flourish better than common thuner flourish on a level 2 zues aspect?
eh aphrodites aid seems good ill just take that
half zephyr
eh aphrodites aid seems good ill just take that
Aphy call is nice
half zephyr
is rare heartbreak flourish better than common thuner flourish on a level 2 zues...
It’s good sure
Not sure if it’s better
Depends on playstyle & build
delicate ember
i worked out it does less damage dso no
half zephyr
i worked out it does less damage dso no
Sometimes you might want it to work for a duo 
delicate ember
mkay feeling good, i got some good boons and stuff and im going into hades with max health and 3 death defiances
half zephyr
heady cedar
Hey, I've been playing for a bit and was wondering what is the Aspect of ??? in the weapons and how I shall unlock them 
signal aspen
Hey, I've been playing for a bit and was wondering what is the Aspect of ??? in ...
aspects are alternate versions of your weapons that have special powers, you can unlock them by unlocking all 6 weapons and then finishing a run
signal aspen
Best heat strat for speed running?
the best pact for speedrunning is EM2 FO2 if that is what you were asking for
craggy barn
if you're not going for super fast times than i'd say fo1 instead of fo2
unless you're good at dodging attacks i think you should turn on fo1, it should be good enough for sub 8 at best, which is already a very low time
delicate ember
ok phew beatr him
heady cedar
aspects are alternate versions of your weapons that have special powers, you can...
Ohh, does it have to be all weapons used to complete a run?
signal aspen
no
glad leaf
is hades going to be receiving content updates still?
signal aspen
not for a while
the updates we have been getting since the release of hades have been bug fixes
signal aspen
they worked on hades for 2 years
signal aspen
yeah
glad leaf
also is stubborn roots good
signal aspen
yeah
glad leaf
and what 2 boons are required for it
signal aspen
One of each:
Athena: Divine Strike, Divine Flourish, Phalanx Shot, Phalanx Flare, Divine Dash, or Athena's Aid
Demeter: Frost Strike, Frost Flourish, Crystal Beam, Icy Flare, Mistral Dash, or Demeter's Aid
signal aspen
yeah
glad leaf
kk
glad leaf
what are the odds
glad leaf
ok
signal aspen
nyaanyaa might know
signal aspen
s
hollow hawk
what are the odds
depends on a lot of things
the way to maximize your odds is to have god's legacy in the mirror (the one that gives +10% duo chance), have athena/dem keepsake equipped, have a chaos boon rarity % (for another +10% duo chance), and to have all your core boons filled (attack, special, cast, dash)
glad leaf
and to have all your core boons filled (attack, special, cast, dash)
i didn't know this affected it, how much does it change the odds?
also does chaos egg raise the chance for gates to appear
brisk trail
no
last cradle
man i thought i was so good at this game until i turned on the boss battle pacts
glad leaf
in that character record thing that achilles gives you, where it says you have to talk to a character x more times to unlock more info, once you talk to them those times do you gain the ability to do something?
glad leaf
man i thought i was so good at this game until i turned on the boss battle pacts
extreme measures?
signal aspen
in that character record thing that achilles gives you, where it says you have t...
nah you just learn more about the character
glad leaf
oh rip
ive maxed megs hearts and im trying to get her companion
but she just wont give it
signal aspen
you need to kill her more and more
half zephyr
meg is very rng
last cradle
extreme measures?
yeah especially the elysium and hades fights
like i didnt get why people said this game was hard until i got to relatively high heat
main stratus
its very satisfying to ||blow up theseus chariot|| tho
signal aspen
yeah
wraith ginkgo
how do I unlock summons?
signal aspen
how do I unlock summons?
you unlock certain characters' hearts
wraith ginkgo
ok
glad leaf
what do full hearts do for characters who dont give summons
simple blaze
bond forging
glad leaf
do i unlock anything?
main stratus
naw its just a feelgood moment
glad leaf
oh ok
does the dialogue change for them when you have full hearts?
as in does it become more friendly or something
main stratus
for some characters? i think
excluding charon
besides the final heart i havent noticed much difference for gods
cerulean ferry
do i unlock anything?
You get a little icon next to their keepsakes
signal aspen
what do full hearts do for characters who dont give summons
also for the olympians if you max their hearts you get closer to the epilogue
glad leaf
what is the epilouge? im fine with spoilers btw
main stratus
||olympians come down for a party and all is well tldr||
dusky wedge
||When I did my epilogue, the lounge wasn’t fully upgraded yet 
||
signal aspen
how dare you
iron loom
||When I did my epilogue, the lounge wasn’t fully upgraded yet <:shadegrief:5204...
I don't think mine was either, does something change?
dusky wedge
I didn’t expect the epilogue tbh
signal aspen
I don't think mine was either, does something change?
no
dusky wedge
I don't think mine was either, does something change?
Don’t think so, or I haven’t seen anyone mentioned it yet, so I guess no
iron loom
oh thank gods lol
main stratus
imagine the epilogue without cleaning the lounge at all 
main stratus
nyx would be hooo
vapid pivot
Will there ever be true 3440x1440 screen resolution support?
gaunt ridge
World Splitter's weird.
anddd I died again
managed to get Hoarding Slash too but the rotation is messed up.
signal aspen
World Splitter's weird.
yeah world splitter isnt good
gaunt ridge
I kinda like it considering I got Demeter's special that run
attack > special loop = lotta DPS
signal aspen
well when you play sword you should be using your dash strikes more than your attacks
gaunt ridge
but I whiff it like half the time ;_;
signal aspen
you just bad
crude surge
Just practice the combo
signal aspen
ye
manic bobcat
Hades is on sale for $10.00 right now on Epic Store. (You get a coupon for $10.00 on a $20.00 game during this sale).
Not a fan of Epic Store but if you want to check Hades out, here is your chance.
manic bobcat
wait you haven't played Hades?
signal aspen
no
all of my victory screens are photoshop
and i have been guessing about what happens in the game
so far i have been correct
quartz garden
you must be real fun at parties catpicsir
signal aspen
yes
i am extremely fun at parties
but most of the parties that i have been to have 0 people
manic bobcat
you should really play it
it's a hidden gem
if only the dev have a server that we can talk about it.
buoyant merlin
Aspect of Kratos for PS4 hades lets go
serene saddle
Hey Hades will be on stadia soon ?
signal aspen
Hey Hades will be on stadia soon ?
unborn remnant
Yall know if Hades is coming to Nintendo DS yet?
signal aspen
ye its coming tomorrow
crude surge
Everyone's talking about the PS4 release rumors but I'm waiting for the PS1
signal aspen
ye same
south comet
man I suck at this game
it took me like 30ish attempts to escape for the first time
and my friend that just got the game beat the game before even unlocking the spear, fists and rail
uncut dagger
it took me like 30ish attempts to escape for the first time
wow, that's a masterpiece compared to my time
it took me like, 44 attempts
signal aspen
it took me like 30ish attempts to escape for the first time
thats fine
south comet
okay proxy
nyx doesn't wanna talk to me about the aspect of arthur still
one day
signal aspen
nice
pulsar shadow
nyx doesn't wanna talk to me about the aspect of arthur still
Lol
I got that scence at the first time
Same as the guan yu
At the first scence
I am so lucy
main stratus
Aspect of gilgamesh the goat
signal aspen
no its not
manic rock
Hello. I have a question for developers. Would you like to release Hades in the cloud gaming service "GeForce Now"?
manic bobcat
Hello. I have a question for developers. Would you like to release Hades in the ...
Plenty of people have asked and this is about the best answer you get #hades-faq message
glad leaf
what exactly does dark foresight do?
signal aspen
what exactly does dark foresight do?
it increases the chance of seeing boons, hammers, coins, poms, and hearts
manic bobcat
(as opposed to darkness, key, and nextars)
