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toxic bear
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Also aphrodites call is great vs any boss

signal aspen
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i dont care about the heroes

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i have gotten a 10-20 second heroes fight

toxic bear
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Huh.. wait what. You beat them in under 20 sec?

signal aspen
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yeah

toxic bear
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Damn.. im defintely not there yet

modern garnet
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some builds absolutely shred bosses

dusky wedge
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It depends on the build

toxic bear
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Interesting.

signal aspen
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literally any hard hitting weapon, artemis, and hunters mark

toxic bear
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I havent looked up any build as I like to discover and figure it out my self

dusky wedge
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And how fast you can complete said build

signal aspen
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also spread shot zag rail

modern garnet
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I've done lernie runs where lernie spends more time invincible than able to be damaged

toxic bear
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@modern garnet Lernie yeah, ive done that

dusky wedge
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If you’ve completed your build before heroes, then, heroes go down fast

modern garnet
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sometimes a build is just a duo and connective tissue

toxic bear
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lets say you get 3 boons that make your builld before mid game, Do you try to not get any more boons and jsut get poms to boos those boons?

signal aspen
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depends on what boons those are

dusky wedge
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Depends

toxic bear
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In general, when and what boons SHOULD you go for poms?

signal aspen
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3 boon run

dusky wedge
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The two damage boosting boons from Hermes is always nice to have and to strive for

modern garnet
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the thing with poms is that going over level 5 is rarely worthwhile

toxic bear
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Ah I thought so.

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It gets progressively weaker

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The buff to it i mean

modern garnet
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yep

toxic bear
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The first few levels are a nice solid upgrade in damage / %

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after its not worth it over more utility boons / health

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Wait, whats a perfect clear?

signal aspen
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0 damage

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or finish with full health

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build absolutely melted hades

toxic bear
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Ooooh ok the last makes secnce

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First sounds insane

modern garnet
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finish with full health without an aspect that makes you heal

dusky wedge
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Oh, it’s not no hit run? I thought it was that

signal aspen
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nonnonononononono

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no hit hades fight

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im not that good

toxic bear
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Lol no hit run sounds like literal hell

signal aspen
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haelian did that once

toxic bear
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So many small things in this game that can just ping you accidentally

signal aspen
# toxic bear Lol no hit run sounds like literal hell

Weapon used: Adamant rail with aspect of Hestia.
Keepsake used: Thanatos' Pierced Butterfly (+2% damage for each encounter cleared without taking damage).

FAQ
"Why use any pacts of punishment (heat)?"
We only take pacts that only matter if you actually get hit (i.e. 100% extra enemy damage) and that's so that Erebus gates can be an option throu...

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toxic bear
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Id die before I did it

dusky wedge
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Seeing people speed run the game is amazing though

modern garnet
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i go into hyperfocus mode every time i do an erebus gate

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if i could do that for an entire run that would be sick

dusky wedge
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Watched a few on YT and it’s so fun to just sit down and watch

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I don’t even know why I enjoyed it that much, even when I’m not really a speed runner

modern garnet
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it's cool to watch very skilled people

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that's why people watch sport

toxic bear
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Wait.. that rail. How is hee using it like a shotgun?

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Thats so cool

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Which aspect is that?

signal aspen
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hestia

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whoops

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lmao

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talking in another server

coarse marten
modern garnet
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he fires every shot in his gun at once

signal aspen
modern garnet
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maybe using scroll wheel bound to shoot?

signal aspen
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nah he was just using hestia

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and that is not how it works

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and he is using controller

brisk trail
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If you've got Spread Fire and you hold down Attack while mashing Dash you'll fire off the entire clip very quickly.

coarse marten
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wait he isnt even shooting a clip he is just shooting 1 then reload

signal aspen
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hestia

coarse marten
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yeah

signal aspen
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yeah

coarse marten
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is demeter flare any good ?

modern garnet
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oh i see

signal aspen
coarse marten
# signal aspen no

damn I didnt want to waste my attack slot or dash slot so I just took her flare lol

signal aspen
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bruh

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wait

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are you using beowulf

coarse marten
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yeah

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thats why I said flare

signal aspen
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ok

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dem flare trash

coarse marten
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feelsbadman well I guess I will look out for a purge thingy

modern garnet
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does it just drop a crystal when you arrive?

surreal condor
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Hey I have a random question

signal aspen
surreal condor
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At what point is an amount of heat no longer considered low heat?

coarse marten
signal aspen
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high heat is 20+

surreal condor
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Huh

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Ok thanks

modern garnet
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oh, dem flare seems bad

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i like dem cast usually

surreal condor
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Hey is it weird that I had forced overtime on max when I played on low heat?

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I heard that people usually don't turn it up, or on

signal aspen
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yes

surreal condor
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Huh

signal aspen
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fo1 can be hard

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fo2 is even worse

surreal condor
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Well I got used to it I guess

modern garnet
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fo is one of the harder heats

surreal condor
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I have it on 2 most of the time

signal aspen
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just like js and cp

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jury summons and calisthenics problem

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I got used to those but it is not good

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especially together

surreal condor
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I... I had jury summons on from the beginning of heats and still do O-o

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Am I making it harder for myself

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?

signal aspen
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same

coarse marten
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I keep forgetting that I took of the recharging bonus life and keep wasting it lmao

signal aspen
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jury summons 1 is fine

signal aspen
coarse marten
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jury summons is the more enemies right? I like that one more things to kill lol

surreal condor
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Same

signal aspen
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yeah

modern garnet
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I run middle management all the time. it makes the fights more fun

coarse marten
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also doenst it give more money since you kill more things?

signal aspen
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yeah

signal aspen
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harder mini bosses

modern garnet
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adds some spice to the minibosses

coarse marten
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oh yeah

surreal condor
signal aspen
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mm is a safe option

coarse marten
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are athena boons the best?

surreal condor
signal aspen
modern garnet
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my ideal heat is a heat that wont affect hades at all

signal aspen
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i rarely use deflect

modern garnet
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athena boons are for cowards

surreal condor
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No boons are "the best" it depends on the weapon your using and the aspect and stuff

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It just depends

signal aspen
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the dash is good

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but not much damage coming from athena

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only good athena boon i can think of is merciful end

surreal condor
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What about the zues Athena one

signal aspen
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lightning phalanx is good

surreal condor
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And the demeter Athena one is useful

coarse marten
surreal condor
signal aspen
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i havent actually used stubborn roots before

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i have gotten it

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but i have not healed from it

modern garnet
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athena really solves all your "ranged enemy" problems but i dont have problems with ranged enemies usually

signal aspen
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just use your weapon to delete the projectiles

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or just dash out of the way

surreal condor
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wiches

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lots of asphodal wiches

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I hate that encounter

signal aspen
modern garnet
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the witches circle?

surreal condor
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Yeah

modern garnet
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easier than barge ime

signal aspen
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i hate the mega gorgon and the skull crusher

surreal condor
modern garnet
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no, the boat

signal aspen
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yeah

surreal condor
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The boat is fine, I actually really like the boat

modern garnet
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giant gorgon head and skull crusher kicks my ass on MM

surreal condor
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The barge of death is nice

surreal condor
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So annoying

modern garnet
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who gave the skull crusher hades's wave >:(

signal aspen
surreal condor
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Who tf gave the gorgon head nightcrawler abilities ):<

signal aspen
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and it is your fault for turning it on

surreal condor
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;-;

coarse marten
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i dont really like aspect of beo TBH

signal aspen
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beowulf is great

surreal condor
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Beowulf is great, but I don't really use the shield much

coarse marten
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really I just dont like the lack of range. maybe its cause im running only 1 dash and no health upgrades but Aegis is my fav weapon but Beo just isnt that fun imo

modern garnet
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if you dont like beo then run dio flare

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dio flare changes the game

gray apex
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Beo is tough to get into

coarse marten
gray apex
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It'll feel clunky until you get the hang of it

signal aspen
modern garnet
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i have never played a beo without dio flare and been like "damn that feels alright"

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tho aphro flare can be good

signal aspen
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yeah

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200 times

coarse marten
brisk trail
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ive been slapping its booty over n over since 2003

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at least it feels like it

signal aspen
coarse marten
gray apex
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I'm guessing they're beating the game with the other side of the mirror for the prophecy

coarse marten
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I just puit on all the ones I dont use

coarse marten
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I was thinking maybe I will find oneI actually like but no all of them are just pure pain and suffering

signal aspen
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most of them at the top

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they are situational

brisk trail
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usually what i do is all purple except the last 4

coarse marten
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any tips for theseus his whole hiding behind his shield thing annoys me so much

coarse marten
signal aspen
brisk trail
brisk trail
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who cares for strategy when you can just waste your DDs on theseus 😍

coarse marten
coarse marten
signal aspen
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you just have to get closer to him

brisk trail
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oh LMAO

signal aspen
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he does a spinny attack thing that you can easily dodge

brisk trail
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fair enough

coarse marten
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anyone else think that they saved all the most annoying things for elysium. Shields, invincibility rocks, theseus

signal aspen
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the rocks are fine

brisk trail
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elysium is 10 times worse than hades himself no cap

signal aspen
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fighting theseus is not annoying, but i think his personality annoying

coarse marten
# signal aspen the rocks are fine

not when there is like 20 shields that make it like impossible to get to him. I think there is a line of code hidden deep in the game that just makes it so it puts the annoying rocks in the most annoying to get to place possible

signal aspen
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bro when have you ever gotten 20 shields in one room

coarse marten
signal aspen
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i think the most annoying enemies in elysium are the flame wheels

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earlier today when i was doing 32 heat i got extra fast, teleporting armored flame wheels

surreal condor
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Both great shields and flame wheels are extremely annoying

signal aspen
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i gave up

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change the heat a little bit so i wouldnt get those again

coarse marten
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just buy flame wheel release 4head. I have always wondered just it just replace the spawns with something else

signal aspen
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they cost too much and are rare

coarse marten
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or like any enemy that would have been flame just ain there

brisk trail
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is it possible that i dont have the lyre quest type thing yet?

signal aspen
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no

brisk trail
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dang

signal aspen
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you just have to keep slapping it

brisk trail
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it really does take this long

signal aspen
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also you need to talk to orpheus lmao

brisk trail
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how do i sue the developers

signal aspen
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forgot about that part

coarse marten
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is what do you get from reuniting orpheus?

signal aspen
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no

brisk trail
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will there be an exclamation mark when ive played enough?

signal aspen
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talk to orpheus mid way

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he supposed to compliment you

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and i think he needs to give you some tips in the lounge

brisk trail
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yeah i think i had that a while back

signal aspen
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now it is just a waiting game

coarse marten
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i got that the run after I unlocked the lyre

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does orpheus give me anythng for reuniting him or should I keep my diamonds

signal aspen
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you cant get anything other than resources, companions, and keepsakes

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so no

sturdy sphinx
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You get to hear in the blood duet which is nice

signal aspen
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yeah

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in the blood slaps

sturdy sphinx
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I still haven't unlocked any companions 😢

modern garnet
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flame wheels are just tiny asteriuses without axes

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takes a while to get companions, you gotta have a lot of chat

sturdy sphinx
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Yeah same technique really just let them run into the wall

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Except I haven't fought them on fast mode

coarse marten
signal aspen
sturdy sphinx
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Yeah I chat everybody up all the time but I'm only at like 16 clears

signal aspen
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and with benefits package, they were even faster and could teleport

sturdy sphinx
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lol

coarse marten
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Theseus calls you a coward as if he hasnt been sitting behind a shield every time you fight him

modern garnet
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yeah he's a hypocrite

signal aspen
coarse marten
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if your blessed spear is so fancy why you hding behind that shield

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I wish there was an aspect of theseus and he just starts whining like a baby if you fight him with it

surreal condor
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Heheh, that would be hilarious

sturdy sphinx
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I want arthur sword 🙆

surreal condor
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Than get it

coarse marten
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Just make it a mix between aegis and the spear. Like if you chage you get the shield dash instead of the spin but your normal and dash attack are the spear. make the special be you trhrowing both

surreal condor
sturdy sphinx
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Shhh it's hidden shhh

signal aspen
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spoilers are allowed in this channel

sturdy sphinx
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No I just mean

signal aspen
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oh

sturdy sphinx
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I can't get it

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Yet

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😔

signal aspen
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rip

coarse marten
sturdy sphinx
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Idk the requirements tbh

surreal condor
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Do you have the hidden spear aspect?

coarse marten
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spend 5 in spear then tlak to achiles GO BACK TO SPEAR AND REAVEAL( I was sutpid and wondered why i wasnt getting the prompt for so long) then spend 5 in sword and talk to nyx

modern garnet
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every weapon has an associated character that gives you a hidden aspect... but I don't know why nyx is the sword one

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the other ones make sense

signal aspen
sturdy sphinx
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@coarse marten nice. Okay I have achilles spear I think at 5 blood now

deft shell
sturdy sphinx
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@signal aspen nice

signal aspen
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because

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they are there...

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in the pinned messages

modern garnet
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it's story

sturdy sphinx
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@deft shell oh

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Well eventually I'll get it I guess

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Achilles spear is pretty fun I'm like teleporting around

coarse marten
deft shell
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rip

coarse marten
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what kinda of wepaons would you like to see adden. personally its just a massive hammer for me.

signal aspen
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and now zag is using them

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so they can only add aspects

coarse marten
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I need to read up on my greek history then residentzag

sturdy sphinx
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Damn greek mythology always holding us down

signal aspen
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yeah

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i had to learn that the hard way

modern garnet
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they had a gun in greek mythology???

sturdy sphinx
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I recently read The Song of Achilles. P good

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@modern garnet lol

signal aspen
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apparently

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zeus was walking around with a glock

sturdy sphinx
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What a guy

coarse marten
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whats yall least fav weapons?

signal aspen
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thats why he fricked so many women

signal aspen
coarse marten
signal aspen
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malus?

coarse marten
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oh malphon lol

signal aspen
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lmao

coarse marten
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im tired

signal aspen
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malus

modern garnet
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I don't enjoy cast aspects too much

coarse marten
signal aspen
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some will literally melt hades

modern garnet
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i know they're good

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but they limit my options

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i like having a wide kit

coarse marten
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well at least I got to surface with beowulf. Now if I can beat hades with it major pogs but I got 0 lives left

modern garnet
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whats your cast

coarse marten
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ares with the duo from demeter

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but I only got 1

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since I cnat resist the sound of 8 blood

signal aspen
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bruh

modern garnet
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that's fair

coarse marten
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I have like 300 and something hp though

high island
modern garnet
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timed cast is good in a lot of builds, but bad with some cast weapon builds

coarse marten
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I just realised. I have a shield and free health regen and like 300+ hp. I can just play like a coward for ez win

modern garnet
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niiice

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that duo saves runs sometimes

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and sometimes it literally never activates

coarse marten
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if only I had auto god guage I would ever have to leave my beloved shield corner

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wait does hades do self dmg?

modern garnet
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no?

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but maybe you have chill decay?

coarse marten
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I think his skull do . cause they dmg other skulls

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dammit I died.

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at least no more beo

sturdy sphinx
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I had 25% auto god and demeter call and it helped so much in satyr rooms. Just walk in pop call and doom them all

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I don't use calls enough

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Does charm work on bosses? I know I charmed bull but he never attacked Theseus

modern garnet
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bosses have reduced charm time i think?

dusky wedge
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It just stunned them

modern garnet
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it's enough to interrupt an attack

sturdy sphinx
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Ah

modern garnet
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apparently with some builds you can charmlock bosses?

dusky wedge
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Zeus Aphro I think

modern garnet
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I think asterius can hit theseus if you time the charm right... but idk

sturdy sphinx
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I had no luck with it. Seemed no enemies ever really did anything or maybe I just killed them too fast

modern garnet
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charm is good for getting enemies off your case or for grouping enemies together

dusky wedge
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Yeah, most of the time in my experience, charming is kinda gimmicky, it’s faster to just kill the mobs. Bosses are a different story though

signal aspen
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its useful for stunning them mid attack

sturdy sphinx
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I just wanted to turn them against each other sminking

signal aspen
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that works too

sturdy sphinx
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Anything for my good shade

coarse marten
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I cant be the only one who find zagreus teaching tisiphone really cute. Like we should be able to interact with the rest of the furies more not just meg

signal aspen
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its not cute when zag kills tis

coarse marten
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are ares boons good?

signal aspen
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yeah

deft shell
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Depends

coarse marten
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im really hoping to find aphrodite now to get the duo

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is exit wounds just useless when using stigian?

deft shell
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I think it still deals damage when the stones come out.

signal aspen
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it is better to have a bunch of casts pop out and deal a ton of damage

coarse marten
high island
deft shell
high island
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Tbh a good Cast build doesn't really care for Exit Wounds.

deft shell
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It's not necessary but I always try to get it for Poseidon sword. It's good burst damage when you use your special

high island
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You either have so much damage that you one-shot regular enemies or kill them after your Casts hit with just a couple attacks long before your casts dislodge, or you have a cast build that doesn't lodge anyway.

coarse marten
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im termpted to do charon but I gotta escape for my 8 blood

high island
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Well, not always one-shot exactly, but your Casts will just kill everything, and then your ammo drops immediately, so you can pick it back up.

coarse marten
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is charon the hardest boss?

high island
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So Exit Wounds mostly helps in boss fights and in builds that only use Casts for Boiling Blood or to supplement damage.

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I've honestly done the Charon fight only like a handful of times probably lol.

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His attack patterns seem simple enough.

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But he can do a lot of damage.

coarse marten
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wel;l tiem for hades with the spear. I still got all 4 of my lives though woooo

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does ares death defience stack?

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wooo 9 more titan blood

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is there any way to get meg to show up in your room for the favour

cerulean ferry
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Nope, just random

wanton oar
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Hello
I have all my relationships maxed out except Hermes. Can anyone help -_-

modern garnet
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have you done the charon prophecy

granite ether
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That has nothing to do with Hermes' favour Cake

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Try talking to Hermes with ||his keepsake equipped at max level|| @wanton oar ^_^ (assuming you're at the heart lock for Hermes)

wanton oar
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Yes im at the heartlock

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I did the charon prophecy thats why I came here to ask I thought that was it

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Thx a lot zagluv

coarse marten
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any tips for using guan yu

unkempt sleet
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The most damaging thing you can do is spamming special.
Only use your spin when you're safe.
Please make sure it's level 4 or above before using it.

coarse marten
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well I guess I wont be getting hte reach the surface with it for a long time

sudden peak
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what's the name of the song that plays when ||you're killing enemies to get a reward that dwindles the longer it lasts||?

mighty needle
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The exciting part of Wretched Shades extended, I believe

prime girder
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ive only ever gotten 2 hammers in a run, if i were to get "dark foresight" would i be able to get more than 2 hammers in 1 run?

mighty needle
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Nope!

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It's a limit of 2

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Unless you get an item in the final shop that gives you 3

prime girder
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ah :/ thats unfortunate, but thanks!

mighty needle
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It would just increase your odds of finding a hammer opposed to other rewards, which is still really useful

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I used to think that Dark Foresight wasn't worth the boon rarity trade off but it's all I use now that I'm climbing heat more seriously

coarse marten
half zephyr
coarse marten
half zephyr
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I just said that it's possible to just get offered 1

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the max is 2

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doesn't mean you will always have 2

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I'm sure you can go without even getting 1

half zephyr
# coarse marten can you also just get really unlucky cause in my last run I think I either didnt...
Hades Wiki

A Daedalus Hammer is an Artifact that improves your weapon by upgrading its attacks. It can appear in the first room of a run, as a room-clear reward, or can be purchased from Charon for 200 before the Temple of Styx. Only two Hammers can be acquired during any given run, and their effects will stack, although buying an Anvil of Fates from Char...

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it's all in wiki

short gate
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So, just a hypothetical question, if Hades WERE to get DLC, what would you want?
For me, it's in my nickname

broken needle
short gate
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That would be really cool, for sure
Story could be something along the lines of meeting his family, but having to gain their trust through battle

broken needle
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Love it haha I really hope Supergiant has something planned, the game is superb yet still has much potential

mighty needle
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As far as 'raw content' goes, I would honestly be happy with a suite of new boons (especially duos) and hammers

short gate
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An Arsenal Update would be cool

mighty needle
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Of course I would love things like new weapons and gods too

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Gods that you unlock in the post-game, because they've decided to help now that what has transpired has transpired

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I know all spoilers are welcome here but if you know what I mean you know what I mean

vague saffron
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So I'm going for Hades achievements and was saving up darkness for quite a while for Nyx's mirror achievement, until I realized I could just reroll the entire thing and spread my darkness out to each skill then reroll again. Literally just cost me 2 keys.

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I really didn't think this one out, but at least I'm loaded with darkness now

broken needle
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Hey you just need around 65k darkness to max both mirrors at once... just that

vague saffron
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shadeembarassed yeah no thanks

mighty needle
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If there's one thing I really want to see added to the game, it's for all of the cast boons, particularly the duos, to get adapted versions that are compatible with Beowulf

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As the game stands, if there's one thing I could change it would be that

mighty needle
sturdy sphinx
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they really did a great job with the random house interactions and the dialogue never feeling stale. Or I guess I'm speaking as a relatively new player. But for essentially doing the same thing over and over it always feels pretty fresh

vague saffron
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since each boss gives darkness and you can also get bonuses from weapons? Speedruns doesn't sound too bad to farm it up quickly

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but when I hear how much some things cost it's a bit overwhelming from the current point that I'm at, reaching the epilogue today. Highest is 16 heat I managed yesterday too

mighty needle
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It can definitely seem pretty daunting, yeah lmao

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But as someone who was playing before one of the updates that came later in the life cycle... you ain't seen nothing yet

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I wish I could remember the old mirror price, I think it might've been before the green side came out, but it was just as if not more expensive as it is now

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So was buying the Eldest Sigil to Chaos

vague saffron
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oh jeez

mighty needle
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Yeah

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The mirror refund we got when that update came out was crazy

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Maybe a little more dramatic for me because I didn't play heat much before 1.0

vague saffron
#

really saved me a lot of misclicks

#

good because I can't find use for keys otherwise

mighty needle
#

They're good for the odd broker trade

modern garnet
#

about the time you stop needing keys, you start needing ambro and diamonds

#

ty broker :)

mighty needle
#

You go through diamonds surprisingly quickly

#

Those songs get expensive

abstract forge
#

pact of pp

errant prism
#

Guys I just finished everything and I need MORRRREEE. Please tell me supergiant are adding content to this masterpiece

#

I'd sell my kidney for that to happen

manic bobcat
#

Hades 2: Electric Boogaloo

errant prism
#

Is that a no?

manic bobcat
#

No plan.

errant prism
#

Daaaammnnnnn

#

The same treatment as Spelunky 2

manic bobcat
#

Technically possible.

#

But I won't hold my breath.

errant prism
#

Great games to rot away :(

manic bobcat
#

well I am sure it's still selling quite well haha

#

you can add Hades to your Anticipated Sequel list.

#

Along with the likes of Half Life, Furi, Hollow Knight, etc.

compact badger
#

Furier is the best name, but that's taken. So a sequel would have a weaker name 😦

manic bobcat
#

furier-er

compact badger
#

Pains me that I can't come up with anything better

vague saffron
manic bobcat
#
  1. Hades the Prequel
  2. Hades Tactics
  3. Hades 2k17
  4. Hades
  5. Hades All-Star Ultimate? A platform fighting game featuring all SGG characters.
compact badger
#

Hades Tactics does sound great gilmanrage

vague saffron
#

Hades battle royale 😳

#

called 3 nights in Elysium

manic bobcat
compact badger
#

Hello I am Fooled

manic bobcat
#

but hades tactics would be nice

#

grid based turn based rpg strategy game

compact badger
#

Yeah. Kinda like Fire Emblem or SRW
(Also, Greg has a SRW pic on Steam, so there's a chance)

abstract forge
manic bobcat
#

it's a boss rush game. if you enjoy Hades bossfights, i think you would enjoy Furi also.

abstract forge
#

might play it later

manic bobcat
#

complete with EM variations also (called Furier mode)

abstract forge
#

ok

brisk trail
#

yall is there something im suppose to do because im not getting the voice line from achillies to let me get the guan yu aspect

abstract forge
#

i robbed charon and now i am dead

wispy fossil
#

How do you rob Charon?

#

Also, finally made it to Elysium with the shield.

#

The shield sucks against Hydra, or maybe I'm just bad.

#

But it'll be good against Asterius atleast.

hollow kettle
wispy fossil
#

Thats a weird way to spell Dusa

abstract forge
sage swift
#

Hades

manic bobcat
#

Yes, Rico, Hades.

brisk trail
#

favorite boss music?

manic moat
#

I think EM4 final boss is nice music even though I've experienced it not many times myself

karmic hare
manic moat
#

lmao

modern garnet
#

wahoo, beat em3 first try

#

on one hand i spent 3 DDs on the fight and lost to dad

#

but on the other hand, I had just picked up a hammer that destroyed all my synergies so the run was probably doomed anyway

#

im glad i wasnt too spoiled on the fight

#

how are you supposed to beat it with a melee weapon?

hollow hawk
#

You aren't

manic moat
#

all weapons are bows

hollow hawk
#

kinetic launcher on fists, piercing wave on sword, extending jab/exploding launcher on spear

#

Charged shot on Shield

manic moat
#

sword needs better hammer honestly

#

like what even is cruel thrust man

#

dash nova should be deleted

modern garnet
#

kinetic launcher :(

#

but i only like playing talos and gilgamesh

manic moat
#

imagine not playing demeter

modern garnet
#

But sometimes an enemy is like 20 feet away and I want to punch them without going over there

#

God imagine if gilgamesh worked with kinetic launcher, though.. you could maim someone from the other side of the room

serene marsh
#

Does the chaos egg help when trying to get the Death Defiance from Chaos? I'm saving all may rerolls every run for Chaos and Light if Ioxian to finally get it, but somehow Chaos doesn't want to give it to me.

brisk trail
#

egg helps its also just rly rare

terse seal
#

coz defiance is really rare

nocturne granite
#

I know Supergiant puts out ringtones from their games. Have they done that for Hades yet?

signal aspen
#

I dont think they have, but the sound track is available on spotify, youtube, and steam

#

darren korb on spotify

#

supergiant games on youtube

nocturne granite
#

I do have the soundtrack on Steam.

#

Just was curious what they themselves think would make for a good ringtone.

brisk trail
#

death and i would make a great alarm

#

yo so the lyre is making actual like musical sounds now

#

but i dont have the achievement yet

#

whatsup with that

#

or the quest,

signal aspen
#

just keep going

#

240 times or something

brisk trail
#

as in more talking to orpheus

#

or more playing the lyre

#

oh ok

signal aspen
#

both

brisk trail
#

so if the benefit is that foes who are maimed take 25% more damage why does it say 400 maim damage...

#

im a bit confused

signal aspen
#

explosion at the end

#

its like doom with a longer timer

#

its not good though

#

you take 50% more damage

#

which is dumb

brisk trail
#

oh fair enough

#

fair enough

#

cant you spam out the dash attack with them or something

#

or is that normal with all claws

signal aspen
#

its the same with all claws but you get 2 more dashes

#

and you can hold down dash

light lintel
#

Just wanted to share my accomplishment of getting Hades No Hit Run, second to Haelian

brisk trail
#

also what happens if i exceed the heat guage? do i get the bounties and i can still get the bounties for the heat levels below?

#

oh i wont get extra bounties he just said it outloud himself

light lintel
#

wasn't sure where to share it, here or in self promo LULW

gentle cloak
#

Not me procrastinating homework by learning Through Asphodel by ear

unborn remnant
#

Hades

signal aspen
#

Father

unborn remnant
#

Oh did I say this one already?

#

Sorry

signal aspen
#

i dont think you have

unborn remnant
#

Skelly

signal aspen
#

but you do this every day

unborn remnant
#

I do

signal aspen
#

nah

#

you do every other day

signal aspen
unborn remnant
#

good character

signal aspen
#

captain

rare hull
#

BOY

tacit ember
#

hey guys

#

im back

gray apex
#

Hi back

#

im mike

tacit ember
#

k

#

anyways

#

did u guys know

#

brun i forgot u coudn't send images

#

leme get a link real quick

#

yes

carmine ravine
signal aspen
#

wait you can?

rare gust
#

So I nearly died laughing today

#

Something about Zagreus saying "Murderzer???" nearly made me die to Tisiphone

tacit ember
#

k

signal aspen
#

epic hades discussion

tacit ember
#

yes ima head to off topic

sturdy sphinx
#

Mmmmm. Mmrr4r

#

Okay I'm bad with achilles spear

mystic plover
#

Does anybody know why everytime I get room with the competition with thanatos he disappears before I can talk to him everytime

signal aspen
#

wait frick

brisk trail
#

he only talks to you during a run if you missed talking to him in the house

signal aspen
#

misread that

#

he has to deal with some mortals

terse bane
#

I remember a certain chaos room 2/3/4(?) having a fishing point. Can someone tell me?
Went away from the game for a while and can't remember.
I managed to get a fishing point there once only to skip it stupidly by rising to the exit after the boon

signal aspen
#

its random

#

every chamber with water or lava can have a fish in it

#

and i guess there is water in chaos

#

so its random

#

and the ones in choas are very rare

craggy barn
#

chaos fish are actually the rarest in the game

#

i still have 2 voidskates to fish up

signal aspen
#

something just happened

#

i caught my second rare fish

#

epic

#

and it gave me useless keys

coarse marten
#

whats good with lucifer

#

I was thinkinking like demeter

craggy barn
#

triple bomb + arty special

#

not sure about it myself but i mean it worked pretty well for me, easy sub 12 minute run lol

untold geyser
#

Any benefit in increasing the level of hidden sword, shield, bow and rail weapons?

#

or are they mostly the same at lv. 5?

velvet scroll
#

They're all very different.

#

Guan Yu is awful at level 1, because of the HP penalty.

craggy barn
#

rama is amazing at lvl 5, arthur at lvl 1 vs 5 is a pretty negligible difference, beowulf i have no idea, lucifer can do fine with attack builds at lvl 1 but you're gonna be using special a lot at lvl 5

#

lvl 1 guan yu 🤢

velvet scroll
#

Yes, what you said about Rama

untold geyser
#

how does the shared suffering mechanic work?

#

when I used Rama, it was a Hangover special build

#

don't think I used the attack much

velvet scroll
#

So you know that when using Rama, that icon appears over various foes heads, right?

#

That indicates that they are affected by Shared Suffering, and so they take a percentage of the damage that you deal to anyone else.

#

And the higher the upgrade you have on Rama, the greater the % of damage they take.

#

It starts at 30%, but max Shared Suffering is 60%--so it's worth the upgrade if the playstyle fits.

coarse marten
#

what happens if oyu have blown kiss then get rid of crush shot?

signal aspen
#

you lose crush shot

#

and blown kiss becomes useless

#

finished renovating the house

#

unlocked everything

coarse marten
signal aspen
#

yeah

#

it only applies to crush shot

#

so it becomes useless

twin moat
#

Niceee

coarse marten
#

ughhh a trove trial thats invincibilty ronks and shields

#

why does that exist ughhhh

signal aspen
#

f

coarse marten
#

my entire plan for this build was getting the explode at 10 stacks of chill but it gave me one demeter boon fromn the horn and thats it

signal aspen
#

bad rng

coarse marten
#

ik its making me sadge

#

wait no finally

#

like 3 rooms left in elysium and iot offers me one

signal aspen
#

wait

#

how many boons do you have from another god

signal aspen
coarse marten
#

1 hermes 1 chaos ares cast and athena dash

signal aspen
signal aspen
coarse marten
#

well I sold crush and blown kiss soo

untold geyser
signal aspen
#

yeah

#

those are fine at lvl 1

untold geyser
#

I thought maximising maimed damage would be good

signal aspen
#

nah

#

maim is useless

untold geyser
#

but I actually don't like hidden fists at all

#

so slow

signal aspen
#

maim is so good you have to take 50% more damage

coarse marten
#

thats the annoying thing about trying to go for a specific build that sounds fun. You end up getting rekt by rng and dieing to theseus

signal aspen
#

rip

sturdy sphinx
signal aspen
sturdy sphinx
#

Great work

signal aspen
#

also i didnt kill hades in 20 runs

#

i just rounded down to 300

sturdy sphinx
#

That's a lot. But your house looks nice

signal aspen
#

thanks

sturdy sphinx
#

What do you have left to do?

signal aspen
#

unlock all music

#

unlock all themes

#

finish bond with hermes

#

for some reason i havent maxed his keepsake yet

sturdy sphinx
#

That's good to know there's still more to do even after that many clears

signal aspen
#

yeah

sturdy sphinx
#

And then maybe they add some dlc given the crazy recognition the game has gotten recently

signal aspen
#

i dont know if they are going to add dlc

#

but there will be new content

sturdy sphinx
#

dlc

#

Can't wait for some new c

coarse marten
#

honestly Hades might be my fav game of all time

#

im bewtween that or doom eternal

#

both were so good

signal aspen
#

nice

#

idk if hades is my favorite game of all time

#

but it is definitely goty for me

#

for 2020

#

even though i didnt play hades during 2020...

coarse marten
#

like I cant really find a single thing I dont like about hades, graphics are gorgeus, game always feels fresh, not that expensive, amazing soundtrack, great gameplay and good story

terse bane
#

I find the gameplay and room pools not big enough, but that's the only complain I have

#

And I'd rather have them make less but balanced so everything is well rounded up

signal aspen
#

the game play of hades is awesome

#

"24 different weapons", and 12 gods that all act differently

coarse marten
#

I am about to go into a boss atermis room with eurydice nectar thingy and her keepsake lol

signal aspen
#

bosses have their own unique features

coarse marten
signal aspen
#

yeah

terse bane
#

Compared to pools of other rogue lite, it's a bit lacking

#

Isaac and stuff

signal aspen
#

its more like 10 weapons

#

the hidden aspects are very different

terse bane
#

But clearly is wasn't their goal to make game breaking content, and the whole is very coherent so it's fine.

coarse marten
#

some of the hammers feel like new weapons lol like delta

signal aspen
#

delta acts the same as normal rail if you have enough dashes

#

dash attack on rail makes the gun fire faster

terse bane
#

And as I say, that's my only complaint if I have to tell one, I agree with everyone else lemon said

signal aspen
#

so you can ignore the pauses in between each burst with a dash

terse bane
#

Haven't touched the hidden aspects yet

coarse marten
manic bobcat
#

Isaac has what? 1 remake and 3 expansions?

coarse marten
#

yeah exactly

manic bobcat
#

Hades biome number is a bit limited though. But they are welldone, at least.

#

No game is perfect.

coarse marten
#

yeah but a cool idea could be expanding into other mythos underworlds. Who wouldnt love a valhalla biome or egyptian one

manic bobcat
#

I'm wondering what their next step would be.

#

A new IP or expansion

#

Or, a sequel to their previous games

compact badger
#

We talked about this, FoxHope. Hades Tactics ron

high island
#

Hades is the only roguelike with a story and characters and lore and presentation that actually makes me wanna play it.

signal aspen
#

hades has a decent story

high island
#

The gameplay and everything is incredibly polished.

#

Animations are super smooth.

#

I have over 900 hours and occasionally still find new voice lines.

coarse marten
#

I hope in some update they make a way for you to necromance theseus so you never have to deal with him again

signal aspen
#

he just keeps coming back

high island
#

King Theseus is one of my favorite characters, honestly.

coarse marten
#

yeah if killing him just makes him respawn why not just make him live again

signal aspen
coarse marten
#

what are good for attack with the bow

brisk trail
#

can i complete the hammer quests with the anvil or does that not count

quiet mortar
modern garnet
#

Bow attack likes dealing more damage

#

Aphro/arte

manic bobcat
glad leaf
#

whats the best weapon aspect?

manic bobcat
#

The one you are good at. All weapons are balanced for basically every quest in the game, unless we are talking 50+ heat.

glad leaf
#

are there any that are better than others?

manic bobcat
#

Is orange better than apple?

glad leaf
#

well you see

#

apple isn't a color

#

jk

#

i really enjoy playing nemesis but im going for arthur

#

partially because it looks cool

manic bobcat
#

I guess some good weapons with relatively little upgrade needs are Hera, Nemesis, Arthur, and most Zag Aspects.

#

They aren't the best, best is subjective. But they require little blood to get going, if that's what you want.

glad leaf
#

oof

high island
signal aspen
manic bobcat
#

js, not even once

high island
#

Wouldn't recommend it at 32, yeah. What aspect is that?

#

Trials with JS are especially bad.

#

Savior increases the difficulty rating of enemies, so you would never normally run into a chamber like that without Jury Summons.

#

A smaller number of Bruiser Savior enemies would still be annoying, though. Bruiser wastes a lot of time.

gray apex
wispy fossil
#

Im considering turning on God Mode until I finish the story.

manic bobcat
#

dew it

wispy fossil
#

I dont know if I need to though. I can reliably make it to Hydra and have beat it with five of the weapons.

manic bobcat
#

do you know how god mode works?

wispy fossil
#

Yeah

#

2% damage reduction for each loss.

manic bobcat
#

yeah

#

I think it's fine because it doesn't make the game trivially easy

#

but it's up to you. you can turn it off mid-run, too so there is that

hollow kettle
#

God Thanatos and Zagreus are just so soft and tender with each other I just

#

Hhhahhhhhhhh

rare gust
#

Sooo

#

Practicing with the lyre means pressing E until something happens huh?

#

It's a good thing I spent 7000 hours over on TF2

neon gate
rose lark
#

Yeah, what I do is press it until the first dialogue, then go on a run

signal aspen
#

You also have to talk to orphy

rose lark
#

Oh

neon gate
#

Yeah you need to hear lines from him and play it a certain number of times to get good

#

Without talking to him you'll never improve

stoic ruin
#

Aagh, so close!

#

I almost had it!

#

😠

cedar briar
#

Hi this is a bit of a dumb question but

#

How do I get the benefit package? ^^;

surreal condor
#

What benefit package?

cedar briar
#

Gimme a second

#

Pack of punishment's benefits

#

The ones for slashed benefits request

surreal condor
#

Either I don't know what that is cuz im terrible with names and remember non of then, or because I'm just an idiot and don't know what that is

cedar briar
#

Its ok I am bad at words too

#

I will just look it up online again 🏃‍♂️

modern garnet
#

Benefits package is a pact you can take to increase heat

#

Once you take that pact enemies will start having special perks that makes them harder to beat

#

Theres a prophecy for beating an enemy with every perk

#

Some perks are rarer and exclusive to certain biomes, so just keep playing until you get them i guess

cedar briar
#

Oh thank you for explaining

#

Ok i guess I will find out later since I'm still sorta new to it

#

The most i have done was just 19 heat👼

modern garnet
#

You only need a few runs with benefits package on in order to get it

#

I'm only up to 7 heat and I got it

cedar briar
#

Oh so they're random?

modern garnet
#

As long as you activate the benefit package pact, you will find enemies with these perks

craggy barn
#

if you really wanna speed the process up take bp2 dusa

cedar briar
#

Oh ok thank you

#

Will do 🏃‍♂️

craggy barn
#

if cruel thrust was an arthur hammer it would probably be liked a lot more

#

imagine a hammer that makes your third swing even more powerful than it already is dusa

wispy fossil
signal aspen
craggy barn
#

they probably already have

rare gust
#

So is it just a thing for bows to have different charge times when you Dash-Strike?

#

Because the Aspect of Rama seems to change its charge with Dash-Strikes

signal aspen
#

That's a thing

#

That's why you should always dash strike when you play bow

manic bobcat
#

Hades is trash

novel wasp
#

Nice bait

#

Heres my bait

karmic trellis
#

what bait?

novel wasp
#

Gun sucks

#

ecks dee

karmic trellis
#

there's bait?

novel wasp
#

Look at my post above

red gust
#

that's not bait

novel wasp
#

Bruh

karmic trellis
#

that's not bait

novel wasp
#

"Hades is trash"

karmic trellis
#

fax

novel wasp
#

And my bait is "gun sux"

#

Cause every new players

karmic trellis
#

how is that bait?

novel wasp
#

Complain about it

#

Its funny

#

Cause they cant button mash with guns lul

karmic trellis
#

why not?

novel wasp
#

Because buttonmash could not get you very far

#

Even with weapons that can buttonmash

karmic trellis
novel wasp
#

Gun is just one of the weapon that is more conformed to this idea more and new players doesnt like them

#

Because oh no my skillful button mash doesnt work here

#

Bow too

karmic trellis
#

bow suc

novel wasp
#

These two weapons gets so much hate i just find them funny

#

Or maybe you just dont know how to use em

#

I dunno

#

Lol

red gust
#

fists are my least favourite. just can't work with them

craggy barn
#

nono he means "hades the aspect is trash"

#

which is still an awful opinion

signal aspen
craggy barn
#

he just doesn't believe in spin2win

karmic trellis
#

i haven't gotten past using teh cthonic keys to own the weapon

novel wasp
karmic trellis
#

it suk

novel wasp
#

Just slightly annoying to use

#

Also spear spin

#

People hate on it while i sleep on it

#

Ever since they buffed the spin duration

karmic trellis
#

spear sux

novel wasp
#

Hella yes

signal aspen
novel wasp
#

And so am i

karmic trellis
#

sword base aspect based

craggy barn
#

idk about you but i got an easy 32 heat with quick + massive spin on hades spear

#

spin2win is real

novel wasp
#

Yes

#

King

novel wasp
#

Yeah

karmic trellis
#

btw gun sux

novel wasp
#

Unless you can beat 30 heat with base sword on new save

craggy barn
#

bad post

novel wasp
#

Dont even talk to me son

karmic trellis
novel wasp
#

the joke is thats impossible spammy

craggy barn
#

32 heat fresh file? that just sounds like mirrorless

novel wasp
#

Ngl ive seen people beat the whole game on run 1

#

Its amazing

karmic trellis
#

ngl you're lying

novel wasp
#

I wish there was a secret ending to it

craggy barn
karmic trellis
#

no

craggy barn
#

beating the game on your first run isn't exactly something that just happens anyway

karmic trellis
#

i did it once

#

i was recording i still have the file. it's really corrupted though

craggy barn
#

. dusa

manic bobcat
#

please be civil when discussing the game please

karmic trellis
novel wasp
karmic trellis
#

:boudy:

#

l

#

:l:

red gust
#

good effort

karmic trellis
#

thank you

#

your are very kind

rare gust
#

Always Dash-Strike with Coronacht

#

Welp I guess my next few runs with bow will result in death

karmic trellis
#

what's a coronacht

#

speak american

red gust
#

bow

karmic trellis
#

thank you

#

your are very kind

modern garnet
#

i like hades spear because it doesn't rely on spear special....

#

but the last time i played hades spear i made a special build shadeembarassed

compact badger
#

Do you play Hades spear with Privileged or Favorite?

modern garnet
#

privileged because i like the sound effect

craggy barn
#

privileged vs family depends on the build

compact badger
#

Do you use your effects are in attack and dash? Something like Dem+Aphro?

modern garnet
#

eh i dont use status dashes much

#

i usually have an attack special combo going on

compact badger
#

Aha. So you use your special but only for Priv

craggy barn
#

p.status is nice but i wouldn't go out of my way to shoehorn in another status effect just for it

#

the 20% damage boost from ff is good enough for me

modern garnet
#

ff is better most of the time yeah

craggy barn
#

the only time i ever use p.status if i'm using a build that directly uses two status effects, like hangover

compact badger
#

Alright. Thought FF was the noob's choice. Which admittedly I kinda am

craggy barn
#

family favourite is just more convenient because you don't have to go out of your way to add another god to your build

manic bobcat
#

yeah, more convenient, or that you get to a point where getting 2 statuses is hard

modern garnet
#

inflicting multiple statuses is something i end up doing by elysium anyway most of the time

#

but mostly i do it for the sound effect

manic bobcat
#

lul

craggy barn
#

i'd probably take p.status on eris because tidal dash + lightning strike but getting jolted + rupture is easier said than done

manic moat
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I almost always end up getting that

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but I don't really play high heat so yea ig

brisk trail
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Has hades gotten any content updates anytime recently

fading gazelle
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Apart from the usual patch notes, nothing much

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Supergiant mentioned that they'd be taking a break from Hades so do expect not much new Hades content for a while squirtnya

brisk trail
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It was 14 months between the last Pyre update, True Nightwing Mode, and the announcement of Hades. We may be in for a wait.

mighty needle
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Yeah, if Hades is ever going to get some kind of content update, be it significant updates to what's already present or some kind of DLC or something, it won't be any time soon

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Also hi @brisk trail!

granite ether
mighty needle
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And Aggy x :)

granite ether
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Hai Profaene klinkCozy

mighty needle
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It's been aaaaaaaaaages, hope yall are well

granite ether
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I'm doing pretty alright thanks bittie3 hope you've are well also

mighty needle
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I've been great

granite ether
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klinkHyper niceu

mighty needle
hollow kettle
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Using mort to summon Thanatos just so I can give him a little kith

cobalt wigeon
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Where dlc

vapid narwhal
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no DLC

novel radish
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didn't think it was possible but just now in my current run, I got dialogue to talk to coronacht from artemis while using varatha. all this time I thought I actually had to wield the weapon huh.

terse seal
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than cute af

unborn remnant
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eris

signal aspen
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hestia

craggy barn
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lucifer

hollow hawk
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flurry shot zag bow

high island
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The odd one out is Lucifer because it doesn't have a Dash-Strike.

hollow hawk
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Does hestia have a d-strike?

signal aspen
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yeah

craggy barn
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i can probably just grab hunter dash and see that for myself

signal aspen
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all rails have dash strike

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except for luci

craggy barn
hollow hawk
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Is it that lucy literally doesn't benefit from hunter dash?

craggy barn
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me and nyaanyaa went over this the other day

hollow hawk
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or chaos ds boons

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Huh

high island
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You can't get Hunter Dash on Lucifer.

hollow hawk
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That is interesting

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oh

craggy barn
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wait you actually can't get arty dash on luci?

high island
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Correct. Same for Lunge.

craggy barn
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well then i'll just go with the next best thing.

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hyper delivery

high island
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There's nothing particular about Dash-Strikes on Hestia. Empowered Shots simply don't register as an attack at all for the tutorial hints in the courtyard. That's all it is.

covert tusk
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Im curious,anyone know why does Content/Maps contains "Orpheus.csv" which seems to be a list of voicelines?

rare hull
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Hades Wiki is community thing right?

signal aspen
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yeah

rare hull
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Ahh okie okie

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I just noticed some of the Olympians doesn't have Greater call quotes in it so yea, thought of asking here

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Thanks though

brisk trail
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Hi, not sure if this discussion belongs here or if anyone knows the answer

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But does anyone know what gear Darren Korb uses

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Especially for the metal parts of Hades

signal aspen
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not sure if this is going to help you find your answer but here: https://youtu.be/_jMghh9sCSA

Composer Darren Korb traveled all the way to world-famous Studio Two at Abbey Road Studios in London to record two very special pieces of music for the Hades Original Soundtrack. He is joined by vocalist Ashley Barrett, conductor/arranger Austin Wintory, and a talented team of musicians in this behind-the-scenes look at the production.

Get the ...

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i dont really know what your question is

brisk trail
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Yeah i watched it, not really lol

signal aspen
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ok