Yes I have that one
#h1-discussion
rapid bear
hallow peak
Yeah
rapid bear
I got Patroclus' today, I have only 1 left now
rapid bear
at max it's 5
Ohhh
half zephyr
cuz 5 hits is a lot of dmg
rapid bear
Also, is levelling up all sakes to 3 a good idea?
hallow peak
I mostly use pom blossom
hallow peak
Oh pom blossom is the one you are missing
half zephyr
then you can do the others
half zephyr
Oh pom blossom is the one you are missing
...
hallow peak
Don’t wait trying to get it
half zephyr
hallow peak
<a:clap:689071413017051146>
Im slow ok
rapid bear
And should be saving up Gemstones or Keys, I need 30 keys for my next Mirror Abilities unlock but I keep using them on the 10 Gemstone for a Key trade and then the 5 keys for Nectar
rapid bear
Oh pom blossom is the one you are missing
Ohh
hallow peak
I didn’t think about it
rapid bear
do it for the ones you use a lot first
Gotcha
hallow peak
Also thats not that bad of a spoiler
high island
Guan Yu is a "git gud" aspect, simply put. But it can be very powerful, and it's one of the best aspects for no-hitting a run.
rapid bear
And should be saving up Gemstones or Keys, I need 30 keys for my next Mirror Abi...
???
half zephyr
And should be saving up Gemstones or Keys, I need 30 keys for my next Mirror Abi...
why do you need gems
gems be cosmetic
hallow peak
To pimp his crib yo
half zephyr
max out keys first
rapid bear
Guan Yu is a "git gud" aspect, simply put. But it can be very powerful, and it's...
About to do my next run with it, it's my next Ambrosia quest, got the Arthur aspect
hallow peak
I just prefer hades aspect on the spear
rapid bear
gems be cosmetic
Gotcha, I sort of understood that after 15-20 runs since I was unable to do anything w those but the house decos thtas why after that I started trading in those always
hallow peak
Can do much more damage
rapid bear
I just prefer hades aspect on the spear
That was the first weapon I ever beat Hades with
And it was the most unexpected
hallow peak
Same
rapid bear
Like I had hardly used it 3 times before
But that run went so good and I managed beating em
half zephyr
ok
rapid bear
I am in love w the Arthur aspect now 😭
half zephyr
onwards with my PALADIN RUN!
rapid bear
BWAHHAHAA
hallow peak
HUZZAH
high island
This might help a bit for Guan Yu. #h1-builds-and-combat message
rapid bear
Thank you for your help everybody :D
hallow peak
I think the special for gaun yu is cool but its underpowered
rapid bear
Also alsoz one mor question
hallow peak
It doesn’t ricochet if you get that hammer
rapid bear
The only heart max out I've done is with Charon, and he took Ambrosia before the bond
rapid bear
The only heart max out I've done is with Charon, and he took Ambrosia before the...
Is it like that with all the characters?
hallow peak
That it will only happen with like 2 enemies
high island
It's far from underpowered.
rapid bear
The only heart max out I've done is with Charon, and he took Ambrosia before the...
The Ambrosia gift instead of regular Nectar for the last heart?
For the bond**
hallow peak
The Ambrosia gift instead of regular Nectar for the last heart?
Yeah thats how it works most of the time
rapid bear
Yeah thats how it works most of the time
Okay👍 I'll be sure to stack up on some Ambrosia then
hallow peak
Once you get past the lock most characters want ambrosia
half zephyr
140+?
rapid bear
Im on around 30 now
hallow peak
Uhhh
rapid bear
Epic
half zephyr
I don't really play that much
rapid bear
Veterans
rapid bear
I mean I did get it around 1.5 months ago
hallow peak
150 to 200
half zephyr
I got it new years eve
rapid bear
But I am definitely gonna play upto 150 hours 100%
hallow peak
Because i am an addict
rapid bear
Because i am an addict
Gonna be the same w me at this rate 😔
dusky wedge
I’m 205 hours in
willow pagoda
Hi all. I noticed there wasn't a tiny vermin emoji and wanted to share one i created for my server, if it helps
dusky wedge
And am slowing down
rapid bear
Do you remember/know what the next two key ability unlocks after the Olympian Favour are?
half zephyr
why no better boons
rapid bear
Yeah Chaos boons need a buff :( T_T
hallow peak
Yep
half zephyr
YES
hallow peak
What is the best drapes?
half zephyr
THAN YOU CHAOS
rapid bear
Also may I add you fellas as friends?
hallow peak
I have cobalt laurels and bonr drapes
half zephyr
dash -24% range, but then I get +61%spdmg
hallow peak
Because I thought the other drapes looked bad
rapid bear
dash -24% range, but then I get +61%spdmg
I got this but +37% attack instead of the increment in sp d
rapid bear
Also may I add you fellas as friends?
?
dusky wedge
Plus serrated point for max no dash
half zephyr
mine was epic
rapid bear
Plus serrated point for max no dash
Isn't that a Sword Daedalus upgrade? Serrated point?
dusky wedge
Spear
rapid bear
Oh
rapid bear
Also I thought the gun was trash at first
half zephyr
I had meg & now THAN APPEARS
rapid bear
But after today's use
hallow peak
Also I thought the gun was trash at first
Same.
rapid bear
I sent you and Shadow a request Oil God 
rapid bear
Question question, should I focus on unlocking multiple aspects on all weapons first, or level up one aspect
YOOOO GRATZ
half zephyr
wooo
bleak crag
GODDAMN, FARMING FROM THE MORNING IS FINALLY PAYED OFF
rapid bear
Did you beat Elysium?
bleak crag
SCREW YOU HADES RNG
grand crystal
Question question, should I focus on unlocking multiple aspects on all weapons f...
id say get all of them first then decide
some however take more to be good than others
hallow peak
SCREW YOU HADES RNG
YEAH
rapid bear
Omg ok he's 137 hours in
bleak crag
THANKS SHADOW AND BLITZ!!!
dusky wedge
Focus on the one you like and farm with it
bleak crag
sage glade
hey, does anyone know why thanatos' butterfly doesn't increase damage clearing the encounters in the styx? it only does it in the least one of each gallery while with mom's blossom or with demeter's crop every encounter counts. is it a thought thing or an error?
hallow peak
I THROW DOWN THE SHACKLES THAT HOLD ME IN PLACE SCREW YOU RNG
grand crystal
like hera is good right off the bat but something like chiron takes a bit more love to really shine
rapid bear
id say get all of them first then decide
Gotcha
grand crystal
hey, does anyone know why thanatos' butterfly doesn't increase damage clearing t...
balance reasons
half zephyr
hey, does anyone know why thanatos' butterfly doesn't increase damage clearing t...
only final encounter maybe?
grand crystal
otherwise you could get soo much attack and evade from styx
rapid bear
hey, does anyone know why thanatos' butterfly doesn't increase damage clearing t...
I think thay would make it too OP
Isn't that the +1.1% dodge chance increment one?
sage glade
yeah i was just doing some darkness farming runs and i felt 300 iq thinking i could use the butterfly at the end
grand crystal
Isn't that the +1.1% dodge chance increment one?
butterfly is the 2% attack at max
sage glade
dammit
grand crystal
plume is the 1.2% evade and move at max
rapid bear
butterfly is the 2% attack at max
Ah gotcha
rapid bear
plume is the 1.2% evade and move at max
Right👍
hallow peak
You should try doing a boonless run with arthurs sword @rapid bear
sage glade
Isn't that the +1.1% dodge chance increment one?
that's hermes's feather
hallow peak
And use the shackle
dusky wedge
It is kinda confusing to have two different meaning for “one encounter” for than’s keepsake vs everything else
rapid bear
Im so bad at remembering the names of the keepsakes still😭
hallow peak
And get hoarding slash
hallow peak
3,000 obals means
rapid bear
You should try doing a boonless run with arthurs sword <@!302095553800437772>
Ohhh and use that keepsake which increases attack, cast and special on non-boon
grand crystal
It is kinda confusing to have two different meaning for “one encounter” for than...
i just think of it as plume and butterfly work everywhere but styx :/
half zephyr
I got Deathless stand, Last stand & Holy Shield - and I haven't lost a single DD
rapid bear
that's hermes's feather
Yess sorry
sage glade
It is kinda confusing to have two different meaning for “one encounter” for than...
yeah cuz both the descriptions said each encounter so i was confused
rapid bear
And get hoarding slash
Yessir
dusky wedge
yeah cuz both the descriptions said each encounter so i was confused
Yeah, that’s the confusing part
half zephyr
HAHAH
rapid bear
I got Deathless stand, Last stand & Holy Shield - and I haven't lost a single DD
Last stand makes you impervious + 1 rep of DD right?
half zephyr
@high island I have unshakable mettle now 
half zephyr
Last stand makes you impervious + 1 rep of DD right?
key word being replenish
dusky wedge
i just think of it as plume and butterfly work everywhere but styx :/
I wonder if there’s a better way to convey how it works in Styx
rapid bear
It hurts the most when you reach Patroclus and you see that Kiss of Styx premium but you haven't lost a single DD....
half zephyr
I haven't lost something to replenish
rapid bear
That's just pain on another level
hallow peak
Second time I did a boonless run I had hoarding slash and with smart purchases and good choices I was sitting on 4,000 obals and almost 400 hp
bleak crag
AND I GOT BUTTERFLY BALL \0/
rapid bear
key word being *replenish*
Yesss bwahahhaha
dusky wedge
I know it’s probably fine for most people but my designer mindset thinks it’s horrendous lmao
half zephyr
unshakable mettle yay
and deathless stand & last stand
grand crystal
I wonder if there’s a better way to convey how it works in Styx
ahh well a way you can see it maybe is that its per encounter room reward for butterfly and plume compared to rare crop and mom pom which is just any combat
rapid bear
Second time I did a boonless run I had hoarding slash and with smart purchases a...
4000, 4 THOUSAND Obals?
hallow peak
Yep
rapid bear
The max Oval I've had in 1 run was like 500 so far T_T
hallow peak
Because no boons
rapid bear
Because no boons
Ohhhh
hallow peak
I bought poms
half zephyr
obol*
grand crystal
ahh well a way you can see it maybe is that its per *encounter room reward* for ...
both technically the same thing but its a way to look at the difference in slight mechanics
hallow peak
Which just gave me more money
rapid bear
Alright I've to head out now, twas hella fun discussing here, cyall around!!
hallow peak
Also learned that hermes swift strike doesn’t influence shackle
So slow arthur got faster
grand crystal
Also learned that hermes swift strike doesn’t influence shackle
yea only core boons do
sage glade
i just finished a run with chiron with aphrodite's heroic special, lv.12 and relentless and concentratred volley, it did like 3500 each special oh my god
rapid bear
Thank you Plum, Shadow, Oil and everyone else that helped :D have a good day/night where you are
hallow peak
Then I did a truly boonless run and still did good not picking up any boons
dusky wedge
both technically the same thing but its a way to look at the difference in sligh...
That’s pretty nice. Would’ve work well enough. So, in essence, we just need a few wording changes on plume and butterfly
sage glade
i just finished a run with chiron with aphrodite's heroic special, lv.12 and rel...
i was about to bust with a like 15 sec hades
grand crystal
Thank you Plum, Shadow, Oil and everyone else that helped :D have a good day/nig...
AAaAhhh i was mostly just here 
but see ya :3
hallow peak
Oh wait he can’t yet no fated ability
Wait till you get 30 keys and a good amount of darkness
signal aspen
nice
bleak crag
signal aspen
which aspect?
signal aspen
cursed slash with arthur
signal aspen
probalby the worst hammer for arthur
half zephyr
ye, but it works for me & it's fun
signal aspen
cool
half zephyr
it's just that arthur is perfect for tank
and it's just fun to add cursed slash on a holy blade
brisk trail
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469943461370658838/829739592491073626/unknown.png what happens when i take massive spion with the aspect of guan yu
will the vortex thingies increase in size?
signal aspen
you get a bigger spin
brisk trail
and do more damage?
brisk trail
hmmm
signal aspen
yeah
brisk trail
what would be better extending jab or massive spin
massive spin probably cause imma need those heals
grand crystal
imo perfect hammers on guan yu is charged skewer + quick spin
signal aspen
especially since guan yu attack isnt that good
brisk trail
god idk which keepsake to take for the last fight
skelly or cerberus, i have em both maxed
signal aspen
acorn
half zephyr
the answer is usually acorn
cunning cradle
skelly is good
brisk trail
i only have acorn on level 1
cunning cradle
acorn is very good
brisk trail
signal aspen
i only have acorn on level 1
did i stutter
cunning cradle
lmao
brisk trail
manic moat
if you have all DDs, cerebrus isn't that bad
signal aspen
i suck at dodging so acorn probably not a good coice for me
bruh that is a reason acorn is a good choice for you
cunning cradle
yeah lol
brisk trail
yeah but 3 hits and its over...
The meaning of acorn in ancient Greek
i get hit like 20 times in that fight
grand crystal
yeah but 3 hits and its over...
but thats more than what skelly gives you
brisk trail
Look it ip
grand crystal
skelly gives you a 100hp dd
signal aspen
i get hit like 20 times in that fight
*17 times in that fight
grand crystal
dad deals about 30-40 per hit
brisk trail
oh no youre kidding me
half zephyr
hmmm
grand crystal
once you level acorn it becomes better
half zephyr
myrmidon bracelet not that bad
brisk trail
wait im confused
cunning cradle
dad is kinda slow, but it can be confusing the first times
brisk trail
isnt it better with cerberus though since i have a chance to heal
signal aspen
isnt it better with cerberus though since i have a chance to heal
chance to heal?
brisk trail
yeah aspect of guan yu
signal aspen
oh
grand crystal
yea no take acorn
signal aspen
i guess
cunning cradle
yeah def
signal aspen
25 health is not that much
half zephyr
OH COME ON
cunning cradle
it is, especially in elysium
half zephyr
give me a date event than!!
cunning cradle
lol
signal aspen
what
brisk trail
🤨
half zephyr
I got both meg & than during my run
but instead of date dialogue, I get than talking about nyx
cunning cradle
you'll get it
half zephyr
and just basic dialogue from meg TT
cunning cradle
dw
hallow peak
signal aspen
i dont even know what im using rn
signal aspen
https://discord.com/channels/810350397625204788/810350398069145615/8297422569607...
epic link bro
signal aspen
that looks great man
signal aspen
im jealous
hallow peak
the azure is better
half zephyr
you have to copy image link
grand crystal
epic embed fail
hallow peak
oh sheise
grand crystal
i prefer azure drapes
hallow peak
how do I wait
half zephyr
I just like the look of bones everywhere
signal aspen
how do I wait
?????????????????????
hallow peak
I can't figure out how to copy media links on computer
half zephyr
you've waited
hallow peak
so let me switch to mobile here
brisk trail
might just lose this run cause of time
hallow peak
signal aspen
nice
half zephyr
bones pretty
I've been to the bone church in prague 
It was beautiful inside
amazing what the artist could do with bones
unborn remnant
where is zagreus
signal aspen
thats also how you look at the house like that
half zephyr
maybe he really is batman
unborn remnant
what bats
half zephyr
in the cage
compact badger
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/810350398069145615/829742256063512636/Scr...
This makes me want to get the Nyx painting
grand crystal
you gotta buy the bats from the contractor
unborn remnant
I now see him
signal aspen
yeah
hallow peak
hello
signal aspen
hello
hallow peak
im gonna wait like a couple seconds before I post my next pic of the azure drapes
just in case
brisk trail
alright that was a lot easier than i thought
got hades, lost 1 DD only, at the very end just before killing him with my Aid
hallow peak
also thank you mods
brisk trail
elysium was harder than hades
hallow peak
elysium was harder than hades
I agree
signal aspen
im gonna wait like a couple seconds before I post my next pic of the azure drape...
its been like 10 hours you can post them now
half zephyr
gaaaah why is ||unseen ones|| so epic
brisk trail
elysium is often harder than hades tbf
hallow peak
brisk trail
at least it feels like it
half zephyr
go with bones
hallow peak
which one?
signal aspen
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/810350398069145615/829742221611761744/Scr...
i like the bones more
half zephyr
🦴
hallow peak
I was leaning towards bones
grand crystal
i like azure ;w;
hallow peak
also nice pfp plum
half zephyr
calcium is good for you
signal aspen
calcium is good for you
M I L K
half zephyr
grand crystal
also nice pfp plum
i need to watch magus bride actually, a friend wanted me to get into it and elias is a mood sometimes
hallow peak
calcium to overthrow the human overlords
hallow peak
i need to watch magus bride actually, a friend wanted me to get into it and elia...
its a good show I liked it
half zephyr
ye, but I've seen all the big parts in yt highlights 
hallow peak
fair
grand crystal
one of my oc's is named elias and then i remember magus bride exists ;w;
hallow peak
why is ||unseen ones|| so **epic**
I KNOW NOT OF WHICH YOU SPEAK
grand crystal
<:ss_bugcatpleadsie:782683544400297984>
idk tbh in game i like it on a personal level i dont :/
like design wise its epic, but im not a fan of it personally
half zephyr
ah, you can't answer cuz it's not your genre is it
grand crystal
mhm :3
half zephyr
I KNOW NOT OF WHICH YOU SPEAK
one day, you shall unlock
hallow peak
May I have a hint
signal aspen
why is ||unseen ones|| so **epic**
idk
hallow peak
Because 200 hours
grand crystal
May I have a hint
em4
hallow peak
Oh is it a song
signal aspen
Oh is it a song
yeah
signal aspen
em4 is just better music
hallow peak
Oh i got those all unlocked hang on
half zephyr
you only got this one if you've done em4
hallow peak
Well most
half zephyr
it's just
hallow peak
What does em stand for
signal aspen
you only got this one if you've done em4
i dont listen to the music in hades so i just guessed what you meant by that
signal aspen
no
half zephyr
pact of punishment
signal aspen
extreme music
half zephyr
it reminds me of a combination of dragonforce & babymetal
grand crystal
it slaps
hallow peak
Why doesn’t orpheus sing along though with the songs that have lyrics
grand crystal
Why doesn’t orpheus sing along though with the songs that have lyrics
idk that made me sad ;w;
like
half zephyr
cuz it's instrumental
hallow peak
Sort of upsetting to not hear that great sound again
grand crystal
i wanted to have him sing lament on command so i got the song
hallow peak
From in the blood
hallow peak
But im broke
grand crystal
i wanted to have him sing lament on command so i got the song
but it was just a remix instrumental ;w;
hallow peak
Well no
half zephyr
it's on yt
hallow peak
But im saving
half zephyr
for free
grand crystal
But im broke
spotify is free
hallow peak
Fair
hallow peak
Wait
grand crystal
and i mean he sings it with eury sometimes in asphodel
half zephyr
if you have apple music, it's there too
hallow peak
Isn’t the soundtrack buyable though? Or am I thinking of something else
half zephyr
yes
hallow peak
Buyable on steam
half zephyr
and that stops the artists on spotify how
half zephyr
it's an option to buy it
hallow peak
IM GOING TO SHANK MYSELF
signal aspen
IM GOING TO SHANK MYSELF
ok
half zephyr
to support the artists & sgg
hallow peak
Tiny mobile keyboard
grand crystal
i got it for free since im EA boy from epic 😎
hallow peak
SCHEISE
half zephyr
you swear
half zephyr
it's not allowed
grand crystal
shtap swearing
tax evasion 😎
hallow peak
Where did you learn german shadow
half zephyr
just cuz it's in another language
hallow peak
Or how do you know what that means
half zephyr
Where did you learn german shadow
I'm from Norway, my mother was married to a german guy for 9 years, my half brother is half german, I took german in school for 1 year before I quit it & I've been to germany more times then I can remember
grand crystal
lol imagine
signal aspen
i knew it lmao
half zephyr
and I've watched Werner
hallow peak
Cool
half zephyr
I grew up on werner
grand crystal
ik bits a pieces of german since my brother took the class when he was in high school
dusky wedge
Europe is a soup
half zephyr
and that's not for kids
signal aspen
Europe is a soup
yeah
quaint pagoda
What’s Werner
grand crystal
(kinda getting off topic 👉 👈 )
half zephyr
(kinda getting off topic 👉 👈 )
I knows, sorry
quaint pagoda
Tv show? What do you mean
compact badger
Just realized that the head chef is skinny
I want to trust him, but...
red gust
he’s got a high metabolism leave him alone
digital python
u ever buy a boon in styx and it gives you not one, not two, but three different duo boon options
compact badger
He stands and cooks all day (or night), so maybe you're up to something
signal aspen
u ever buy a boon in styx and it gives you not one, not two, but *three* differe...
yeah
digital python
then again the game literally does give u the ability to tweak ur odds of getting duos so maybe i just need more darkness lmao
signal aspen
then again the game literally does give u the ability to tweak ur odds of gettin...
it doesnt
its a scam
there is no difference
digital python
really?
signal aspen
i feel no difference
digital python
but can u prove that like. mathmetically
did someone like datamine & find that out
half zephyr
there is one
half zephyr
but there's also this thing called bad rng
digital python
well that's stupid that's how how rng works
compact badger
Do Chaos +rarity boons also apply to duos?
brisk trail
guys if i have the correct prerequisite boons for a specific duo boon do i have to like pickup another boon from one of those 2 gods for a chance to get the duo?
so like i have phalanx shot and thunder flourish, so to get lightning phalanx i need to get either an athena or a zeus boon and hope i get lucky
half zephyr
mhm
signal aspen
so like i have phalanx shot and thunder flourish, so to get lightning phalanx i ...
nah you actually need artemis because she is in control of most of the duos
signal aspen
oh i just got the perfect trial
you actually cant get duos from trials
signal aspen
rip
brisk trail
whats the hermes cup
signal aspen
whats the hermes cup
im pretty sure it is a speed run competition
brisk trail
oh im stupid i thought i was misssing a dire snakestone thing, i was missing the king vermin
ah ok makes sense
are there different like levels or is it just 1 tournament with the fastest people
signal aspen
idk
untold geyser
Damn didn't get as lucky with fist boons and lost the run
on my Hell Mode run
on my previous run, I used Talos + Artemis special + explosive catch hammer thingy for like 600-800 damage per special
signal aspen
talos? 600 damage?
untold geyser
not sure if so much damage came from just those three, or also Poseidon's knockback boon
signal aspen
not sure if so much damage came from just those three, or also Poseidon's knockb...
90% of poseidon boons are knockback boons
untold geyser
but the Special was Artemis
was critting and dealing 600+ damage from like the first area or so
signal aspen
that doesnt tell me how you got that much damage every special
do you mean demeter?
the one that makes your special hit multiple times?
untold geyser
I think I had Breaking Wave
Slamming foes into walls or corners creates a watery blast in the area.
could that have been triggered by Talos special + explosive?
sometimes it looked weird
signal aspen
no
untold geyser
my combo would finish with 200+ damage (a crit) and then I would Poseidon Dash and got the 600 damage thing
no clue how it worked
signal aspen
i dont think the explosion knocks enemies away
signal aspen
my combo would finish with 200+ damage (a crit) and then I would Poseidon Dash a...
600 damage?
grand crystal
knockback does stupid damage :/
untold geyser
yeah constant 600-800 damage crits by just using Artemis special
grand crystal
if you slam them into a wall
grand crystal
but wall slams cant crit unless you have pressure points
grand crystal
without Poseidon?
it cant :/
untold geyser
well I was dealing that much damage for the second half of the run
gonna keep running fists and try to achieve the same effect again
manic moat
it does actually
talos special pulls it in and poseidon on the special knocks it away
unless it got patched out or something
untold geyser
yeah but I had ARTEMIS
signal aspen
"artemis special"
untold geyser
no Pressure Points I don't think
signal aspen
unless the game calls the pull a knockback
untold geyser
even if I had PP, it wouldn't crit ALL THE FREAKING TIME
signal aspen
im just surprised you can hit a crit all the time
manic moat
shield attack
untold geyser
iirc
grand crystal
shield does a bit
untold geyser
the sword special
manic moat
yea
grand crystal
^^that too
untold geyser
there's a hammer upgrade that stops it from knocking back
manic moat
both have a hammer that makes the knockback moves not knockback and hit twice instead
untold geyser
if you use the sword special and get Sea Storm Duo skill, can you apply electric effects like Jolted without either Zeus or Poseidon on special?
right I remember now
I hate using non-heavy shields
signal aspen
if you use the sword special and get Sea Storm Duo skill, can you apply electric...
sea storm acts like lightning
so basically its just better zeus
untold geyser
doesn't sea storm cause Poseidon moves to inflict Jolted?
terse seal
so when are the rats getting removed lmao
signal aspen
yeah
signal aspen
so when are the rats getting removed lmao
when you kill them all
terse seal
BRUH LMFAOO
untold geyser
the game stats
brisk trail
doesn't sea storm cause Poseidon moves to inflict Jolted?
Not directly.
untold geyser
it gives electric effects to knockback moves
brisk trail
Sea Storm causes Poseidon knockback to drop a lightning bolt.
untold geyser
sword special / shield attack are knockback moves
signal aspen
it causes knockback moves to make a lightning strike
brisk trail
It will share most/all T2 effects that Zeus has.
untold geyser
including the two weapons above?
half zephyr
so when are the rats getting removed lmao
can't remove the rats! what are you gonna bribe cerb with then? hmmm
brisk trail
Last I checked it's specifically Poseidon knockback.
terse seal
can't remove the rats! what are you gonna bribe cerb with then? hmmm
good point
i hate the poison tho
half zephyr
then don't stand in it
signal aspen
Last I checked it's specifically Poseidon knockback.
shield and sword thrust and special are affected by sea storm
untold geyser
besides bows, is anything good for hangover builds?
manic moat
shield and sword thrust and special are affected by sea storm
yea
signal aspen
besides bows, is anything good for hangover builds?
hidden rail
signal aspen
and also chaos shield
signal aspen
with any specific hammer upgrade?
infinite ammo
untold geyser
can you hit the same enemy multiple times with the chaos shield?
signal aspen
yeah
signal aspen
for hangover builds you should always try to get weak, and doom
untold geyser
and it just resulted in laughable damage every time I tried it
signal aspen
beyblade is the best shield
half zephyr
mhm
untold geyser
are any of the boons more likely to appear during a run?
I get Zeus and Ares all the time, but barely ever get Aphrodite or Demeter
I also always get Zeus on the same runs I get Poseidon, and vice versa, so I wonder if they're tied together somehow
slow plank
i think there is a pre-set 4 that you will get most in each run iirc
i think that u can manipulate that with the keepsakes tho too but not sure
sage swift
Hades
hollow hawk
i think there is a pre-set 4 that you will get most in each run iirc
Its not pre set
Its just that after you get 4 gods in your pool, you won't see any more other than those 4
slow plank
that was bad phrasing, i mean like it draws a random 4 gods at the beginning? thats how i assumed it was done
hollow hawk
no
half zephyr
i think there is a pre-set 4 that you will get most in each run iirc
not pre-set, but the first 4 boons you pick up from different gods (not including chaos or hermes)
hollow hawk
The game rolls almost everything, from boons to sack rng, on the spot
slow plank
not pre-set, but the first 4 boons you pick up from different gods (not includin...
does this mean you can theoretically pick and choose ur own pool
hollow hawk
Yeah
half zephyr
so if you don't go for a god at the start, you essentially reject that god
hollow hawk
You can just avoid gods you dont want
half zephyr
sometimes your hands be tied tho
hollow hawk
Take health instead of the god that is offered, e.g
slow plank
i guess that explains why ive had scenarios where i rolled so many gods in rerolls in tartarus
hollow hawk
Or a pom
slow plank
thats not true
hollow hawk
But yeah, gold laurels cant role into blue laurels
half zephyr
I've been told they only roll into the specifics, but I guess they didn't explain well enough
slow plank
havent tried that yet
half zephyr
I haven't touched authority since I used it for the prophecy
hollow hawk
Gold laurels are poms, gold, boons, hammers and health
slow plank
sounds like a good rng manip tactic in tartarus tho if you get lucky
hollow hawk
Things you use for the current run only
half zephyr
it's not worth giving up persuasion
hollow hawk
Blue laurels are everything else, darkness, nectar, keys, gems
simple moat
for the steam ||clear elysium with em|| achievement do i need to put on ||em3||?
slow plank
yes pretty sure
hollow hawk
i dont know anything about steam achievements, but id assume so
Didnt you already clear em2
stella
simple moat
yeah
hollow hawk
yeah, then just take em3
half zephyr
you might get taken down first go at em3
hollow hawk
dont take any Forced overtime with em3 btw, asterius scary
slow plank
bring earplugs for theseus
half zephyr
can just ignore him
hollow hawk
Its still harder than the normal fight by a large margin
half zephyr
bring earplugs for theseus
his laugh is the best part of em3
half zephyr
Its still harder than the normal fight by a large margin
I find the normal fight harder now after em3
hollow hawk
but yeah, like every boss fight, it gets easier the more you play
hollow hawk
I find the normal fight harder now after em3
what
slow plank
rather commit toaster bath than listen to theseus talk which is how you know he was written perfectly
hollow hawk
Theseus blocks like 30% of the arena in em3
half zephyr
cuz I forgot he attacked me during phase 1
slow plank
meant to be annoying, does it well
half zephyr
and he's super easy to evade
and you can just tail theseus
he's super easy to ignore
asterius telegraphs all his moves
hollow hawk
idk normal fight is just so much more easier
They attack slower, they have less moves
The arena is bigger
half zephyr
with normal fight I've forgotten how it is so it's much harder for me
I'm still so annoyed I lost a dd to theseus of all beings
no, em3 is better
slow plank
i know people say shield is good but i can not for the life of me enjoy playing shield for some reason
half zephyr
have you tried zeus shield?
slow plank
i did
half zephyr
zeus shield w either zeus or artemis special is great
slow plank
idk ive been riding the rail train for so long
half zephyr
and add support fire
hollow hawk
beowulf was decent for me though
hollow hawk
If you're on keyboard/mouse, i would highly recommend using attack at cursor for shield
slow plank
still dont even have secret unlocked on that one, im on at least 5-7 heat with most other weapons
i play controller
hollow hawk
ah
It also helps seeing other people play
Dont be too passive with shield
Blocking is good, but dont overdo it
slow plank
was thinking about getting one of those keypad/joysticks tho., i think itd be crazy optimized to do joystick movement with mouse aim
half zephyr
I dash-strike all the time & forget I can block
bull rush is not part of my move set
hollow hawk
I usually dont block in shield unless its an armoured enemy or boss fight tbh
Or if i have charged shot, in which case its just bull rush all day every day
slow plank
i played so much BOI/ROR2 plus adc in league so i just end up having that mid range but aggressive playstyle and shield makes me change pace
half zephyr
things to get on zeus shield - empowering flight, support fire & a sweet special
slow plank
as long as i have athena dash anything is possible tbh
brisk trail
wait so does extreme measure on the hades fight just add the cerberus thing and the 3rd revive where you have like limited vcision?
heavy hound
He also becomes faster and has new moves
ebon horizon
im having some problem where my game isnt saving...
im 60 hours into the game
I noticed because of the same dialogue and events in that run
heavy hound
whats happening?
ebon horizon
idk
every time I log off its just like I never played until a certain save I did a few days ago
and im using the exact same method ive always done logging off
heavy hound
Make sure when you logg of, you can click the quit button from the pause screen
If you can't that means the game hasn't saved
ebon horizon
ik its what ive always done
ebon horizon
and it always says saved like 1-2 minutes ago
heavy hound
make sure you see the save button go off before you exit
red gust
might want to ask at #h1-tech-support if you can't find a fix
untold geyser
Ummm how do I manipulate the first hammer upgrade again?
I keep dying to traps until I get the hammer I want
restart with the right Goddess' boon once I get the hammer I want and...
I get a different hammer?
why was I even trying so hard?
brisk trail
uh thats not really how seeding works?
untold geyser
how do I make it work to start the game with the hammer I want?
brisk trail
you reset until you get the hammer you want
or use mods
once you got a seed with a starting hammer you want you have to give up when you die and you get it again
but if you switch keepsakes it might advance the rng again if you dont get it then
untold geyser
but if I reset, I get the same hammer
half zephyr
you die
you don't give up
you go & die & try again until you get the hammer you want
untold geyser
I can't die fast without the right pacts
untold geyser
does changing the pact change the hammer?
half zephyr
is that hammer really so important?
untold geyser
yeah
half zephyr
why
untold geyser
with fists, I get 600-800 damage crits with the right hammer
obviously a huge deal
brisk trail
I dont know for sure, try it I dont think i'd change
half zephyr
what hammer?
untold geyser
explosive damage with the magnet thing
half zephyr
you can always try without it
maybe you'll get it with your second hammer
it would probably be faster then trying to get it at the start
slow plank
i gotta say gilgafists are some of the most fun ive had doing runs
half zephyr
if not, I guess you could always check out the modding server (pinned in #self-promotion if I remember right) & see if there's something to help you there
I don't like gilga much
me no like maim
untold geyser
it would probably be faster then trying to get it at the start
so the odds are that bad huh
I'm playing on the Switch
untold geyser
its not Gilgamesh
half zephyr
I've never seen a need to do it
untold geyser
it's Talos
half zephyr
yes, I know you're using Talos
untold geyser
I'm early into my Hell Mode run
half zephyr
but that doesn't mean fluffs can't say they like gilga
brisk trail
its just that the chances ain't so bad to see the right hammer in a run or even win without it
vs resetting forever
brisk trail
but if you wanna seed you gotta do it the hard way sadly
slow plank
ye i was just throwin out there that gilga fun becausee dash dance big fun
brisk trail
so if ive got all the chthonic gods at the favor stage will i automatically fulfill their favors by just playing n talking to people?
and eventually fulfill their favor?
half zephyr
you have to do some stuff
2 have prophecies you need to do
1 needs you to use a maxed keepsake
1 needs you to have 2/3 love interest bonds
uhm..
1 is very dialogue based
and I can't remember the rest 
though one is locked for a while
rapid agate
perfect catch again
AND BASS AGAIN
i swear to god getting sturgeons is gonna kill me
also they're technically WORSE THAN BASSES
if you get a bass you get ambrosia
if you get sturgeon you get blood
BUT YOU CAN GET BLOOD WITH AMBROSIA
and the blood to ambrosia price is 2 BLOOD FOR ONE AMBROSIA
half zephyr
you only need so much ambro tho 😗
rapid agate
anyway i beat 9 heat bow
rapid agate
you only need so much ambro tho 😗
you also only need so much blood
half zephyr
ye, but it's so much easier maxing ambro
rapid agate
also you can't buy ambro in charon shop
what
what's special deal day
oh i don't mean broker
broker is good
but like
you can buy blood with 1200 obols
half zephyr
don't have the money
half zephyr
not when I don't have the money
and I need the money for boons when I'm doing heat runs
I'm not gonna lose my streak until I have to
half zephyr
it's at 62
I wasn't gonna keep a streak
but when I got to 20 I was just "eh, why not"
and now it's over 60 & I kinda wanna see it hit 100 before I lose it
half zephyr
Dusa
hers goes up
you have to give her 10 to max her hearts
total
if I remember correctly
half zephyr
you can get them back if you want to
rapid agate
how
half zephyr
I decided to let her keep it
she asks you if you want them back..
I told her no
I don't need it
half zephyr
I'd rather my snek platonic soul mate have it
rapid agate
on one hand i want to spite the guy that says that dusa sucks
because there's one in this server
half zephyr
have you done all prophecies?
rapid agate
not yet
half zephyr
get hidden aspects & do those
rapid agate
already did that
half zephyr
o_o
rapid agate
rama is fun
half zephyr
first time I beat game with fist was first time I beat hades
rapid agate
explosive shot rama is the stupidest slowest thing ever
rapid agate
first time I beat game with fist was first time I beat hades
first 5 times i beat hades was with BOW
half zephyr
2nd time was no aspect fist 26 mins
3rd time was no aspect rail
I can't even remember when I beat the game w bow
but it took me ages
I don't really like gilga cuz I don't like maim
half zephyr
and me & bow don't get along - the less said the better
grand crystal
and me & bow don't get along - the less said the better
:<
half zephyr
but that's the point
grand crystal
thats...
half zephyr
I don't use special on fist
grand crystal
i only run ME on it to be funny
rapid agate
to get maim
half zephyr
I only dash-strike & attack
rapid agate
and deal more damage
half zephyr
and maim ruined that
rapid agate
maim improved that
half zephyr
I used maim & nearly got killed right away
half zephyr
my MO is to dash into attacks
half zephyr
if you've been warned once.. don't try & do it again right after
if you're muted it's 5 mins
talk to a mod if you wanna get it manually unmuted, not me
high island
<@!311477984886521856> I have unshakable mettle now <:ir_evil_devil_laugh:817449...
Woo~! 💕 
half zephyr
Woo~! 💕 <:dusa:522248771409543188>
I had the BEST paladin build
the holy sword excalibur, with cursed slash & then I got divine protection
I beat dad with basically a full hp bar
high island
Nice! Fighting for the light and the good like a fallen angel.
half zephyr
used the bracelet keepsake cuz I was lvling it & it worked real well for me that run
half zephyr
Nice! Fighting for the light and the good like a fallen angel. <:dusa:5222487714...
there's a reason Luci is the patron!
high island
Making all the souls in the afterlife suffer. A true paragon of virtue.
high island
nods nods Makes sense.
half zephyr
brisk trail
Oh yeah.
quasi fable
gusty rapids
compact badger
There's gotta be a mod for that, right? ;_;
willow root
sacred tendon
seriously, what prevents them from letting us reach it again? Just have persephone not spawn, have something to interact with, and interacting causes the "game over" narration that says he had time to water some plant or whatever
also
compact badger
My thoughts exactly. But maybe that's a statement "Sunrises aren't everlasting"
modern arch
Funny death concepts
sacred tendon
some of the funny deaths don't even make sense; one is about dying from old age/waiting long enough, but doesn't this imply he could have made it?
hollow hawk
someday the narrator will run out of ideas
Just you wait
Its gonna be any day now
and then we'll go back to Greece
hollow hawk
(that was the joke, yeah)