shadow we're just memeing sowwy
#h1-discussion
oblique sun
i don't want any additions to the game either
why do you think i copied the "why no more updates isn't a bad thing" onto my clipboard-
i'm just joking around TwT
half zephyr
ye, it's just that people always do ask those questions just about everyday
so you start to wonder
unborn remnant
aNy dLc?
oblique sun
ahem
unborn remnant
I joke
half zephyr
"any updates? any dlc?? any sequel???"
oblique sun
there will most likely not be any DLC, Hades is the biggest game SG-
unborn remnant
You know what, I honestly think I'd rather people ask than not
half zephyr
sure, but... IT'S BEEN OUT JUST 6 MONTHS!
EA sure, it's been out ages
but 1.0 has been out 6 months
oblique sun
^^^ specifically this
like man
there's so many games that just have an ending
what's so wrong with that?? most games are like that
especially when it's story like this-
unborn remnant
EA?
I just think its cool to see fans that are interested in more content
its fine if it never comes
unborn remnant
oh
grand crystal
yk the thing the game was in for 2-3 years in :3
very fun time
i was a part of it
the almost monthly major updates were sick as hell
grand crystal
I just think its cool to see fans that are interested in more content
tbh i really respect game companies that know when the story is done. continuing it for the sake of the fans and not because you have the passion leads to low quality dlc. also even if you do have the passion it becomes almost obligatory if youre doing it "for the fans". knowing when you want the story to end and ending it is something i just really respect about sgg
all of their games have a conclusion, and thats that
unborn remnant
Yeah, I respect it
grand crystal
they did what they set out to do and i enjoy that :3
unborn remnant
some things have also been created simply for the fans
and money ofc
like look at ff7r
pulsar timber
is there no news about updates from devs yet?
unborn remnant
Is this bait
grand crystal
is there no news about updates from devs yet?
there will most likely not be any DLC, Hades is the biggest game SGG has released and they're probably burnt out on it- but also adding something would be difficult due to it most likely breaking the storyline- think of it like a finished puzzle that you can't add pieces to without cutting the already-placed pieces.
worn inlet
question
unborn remnant
You had this one the clipboard huh
grand crystal
You had this one the clipboard huh
ataino made a thing and let us copy it :3
grand crystal
true
worn inlet
diluting that? for what?
Every single Greek story we grew up with worth a darn is already in the game. Like, I guess we could have narcissus?
shrugs
or haphaestus
Perhaps a swan. Wait this is a family channel.
hardy arrow
has anyone made blizzard shot work
I love blizzard shot, it's like Demeter's call mapped to my cast button.
unborn remnant
honestly might just wanna pin it
worn inlet
Kid, is there anything I should do to it to make it ... work?
grand crystal
Perhaps a swan. Wait this is a family channel.
lmao
worn inlet
like, it goes from my poseidon shot just PFFROBOOOM wrecking stuff to suddenly I die when I cast
grand crystal
yea im not a fan of it either
grand crystal
its a damage nerf for the sake of aoe chill
worn inlet
with greek stuff
hardy arrow
I usually use stygian soul and I just cast constantly in any direction not presently frozen
And yeah I agree that it can feel like a bit of a waste if you built your cast to splode stuff up and they no longer a splode.
worn inlet
stygian soul... is that "my cast comes back when I special" on the sword?
hardy arrow
Stygian soul is the mirror talent that give you one regenerating bloodstone.
worn inlet
Ohhhhhh
right.
instead of bam bam bam bam
that's a neat use for it though
I'll keep that in mind
grand crystal
yea stygian is generally the better cast option
but it requires you to get more
otherwise its worse
since with like 2-3 casts you get a lot of dps since you dont have to dislodge
and pair that with pos sword and you can get crazy exit wound numbers
since ive seen like 10 lodged at once
compact badger
How do you even get 10 stones? You start with 1, ||3 from 3 Chaos boons, 2 from Artemis, 5 from well?||
half zephyr
stygian duh
you regen stones
so you just blast one after another in as you regen them while the original ones are still in the enemy
compact badger
Oh. So that's with 2-3 stones from boons and such?
half zephyr
I guess
sacred stag
I finally got ||my first companion call thingy for Skele, but it just summons him and he... just stands there what does he do? Does he divert enemies focus?||
half zephyr
I finally got ||my first companion call thingy for Skele, but it just summons hi...
did you not read the description..?
red jewel
I finally got ||my first companion call thingy for Skele, but it just summons hi...
Okay, so-
||Companion Rib summons Skelly into the room, and Skelly will taunt all enemies[including bosses] to attack him instead of Zagreus
Skelly has 250 health, and can be attacked by Zagreus, although for exclusively Zagreus, Skelly has immense damage resistance, so that you don't kill him on accident.
It is good for grouping up enemies, or to minimize bosses damaging you||
But generally, other companions are better
vagrant heron
Congratulations, well deserved 
fading bridge
another one 
viscid salmon
How many are we at right now?
half zephyr
4?
fading bridge
shouldve got the music award too
red jewel
And that is the only companion i am going to explain for now
Because I'm not exactly sure how to explain the others
grand crystal
The others are ez to explain
||Battie(megs) deals 2500 damage in a line centered on an enemy going out from there
Mort(than) deals 3500 in a big circle but is delayed a bit
Shady(Sisyphus) deals 1000 from Bouldy falling from the sky and leaves money, food, darkness, and gems
Fidi(Dusa) shoots a lot of the gorgon projectiles that deal 50 damage each(? Correct me if I’m wrong
Anton(Achilles) summons him and pat to slap one enemy each dealing 1500 each hit||
Most people run ||battie or mort|| for damage
I see ||anton|| get some use too
amber kraken
I only have ||skelly|| so I use him
grand crystal
Ahh yea well that’s what they all do and who they are from :3
atomic sparrow
OMG
amber kraken
I keep forgetting I have him until Im like on no health in the final battle xD
atomic sparrow
Best game!
quasi walrus
Hades won :D
stoic geyser
Hades cleaning up the BAFTAs
half zephyr
CONGRATS HADES FOR BEST GAME!!
wraith schooner
Yooooo
zealous raft
YES
rotund igloo
congrats to supergiant!
cerulean ferry
Wooo congrats supergiant!!
half zephyr
SG best
craggy barn
fidi summons dusa as an invulnerable npc that moves around and spits rocks at enemies, dealing 70 damage and petrifying them, causing them to be unable to move and completely helpless for a short time
wraith schooner
flint fossil
CONGRATS!!!
craggy barn
most people like battie the most since it has a good hitbox, is very quick and can hit multiple enemies at once
also congrats to supergiant and getting all these BAFTA awards
hallow peak
My computer after a long sesh starts lagging. Which is somewhat normal play a game that uses a lot of performance for a while and your computer will start chugging
WHAT I HATE IS THAT IT ALWAYS LAGS WHEN I GET TO ASPHODEL
heady yew
WOOOOOO!!!
stoic geyser
tight cave
I'm honestly surprised the audio award didn't go to Hades, the OST is (pun absolutely intended) god-tier.
half zephyr
half zephyr
I'm honestly surprised the audio award didn't go to Hades, the OST is (pun absol...
ye, was sad, but we got 5 so is fine
slender bloom
I would have liked the Audio award
But as consolation prizes go
GOTY is pretty good
split ermine
damn hades crushed it at BAFTA
half zephyr
I mean, I really wanted the music award for Hades
but we got BEST GAME & NARRATIVE
so
slender bloom
Yeah like
half zephyr
and ART
sweet sky
i bought the game on an absolute whim, and boy was it a great move
slender bloom
It's hard to be salty after taking home the main event
sweet sky
fun game
half zephyr
music can always be explained as people having different tastes in music after all
but hard to argue against ART and NARRATIVE and BEST GAME
slender bloom
but hard to argue against ART and NARRATIVE and BEST GAME
I joined late, we took home Narrative?
hallow peak
i bought the game on an absolute whim, and boy was it a great move
Sort of same for me too. I saw it featured on steam on the front store page and looked at it and thought it seemed freaking awesome so I picked it up
Plus it was on sale
Like 10 usd
half zephyr
I joined late, we took home Narrative?
there's a pinned msg with all awards in #video-games
tight cave
GOTY is *pretty good*
Truth. And especially considering that Supergiant is a pretty admirable studio that doesn't crunch the heck out of their devs on a regular basis, a game like Hades being given the spotlight should be the reminder the industry needs that great projects can come to fruition without putting the people who worked on it through the wringer.
split ermine
- Best Game
- Best Narrative
- Best Game Design
- Best Supporting Actor
- Artistic Achievement
Hades winnings^
sweet sky
Like 10 usd
i paid $35 AUD for it like 2 days ago, rip me then lol. If i got it during the sale it would of been around $15 AUD for me
slender bloom
Hot damn
half zephyr
so ye
slender bloom
Truth. And especially considering that Supergiant is a pretty admirable studio t...
No need to convince me on that front
slender bloom
Supergiant's culture is well worth celebrating.
Especially when compared to contemporaries.
Wish DRG took home best multiplayer, Especially when animal crossing could be so much better, give us club tortimer
tight cave
Put it this way, I'm glad 'forced overtime' is a pact of punishment condition and not the developer's company policy.
half zephyr
Wish DRG took home best multiplayer, ~~Especially when animal crossing could be ...
ye, but thing is.. ACNH Multiplayer was A Thing in 2020
it gave us 
slender bloom
I'm not saying I don't understand why it happened
I'm not overly salty, especially when compared to certain other award shows
It had wider appeal, and it came out at just the right time
I just wish nintendo didn't drop the ball so hard at providing content besides the seasonal stuff
half zephyr
it's a game that's supposed to last years
but enough of ACNH!
this is the hades chat
I need to celebrate
maybe eat some ice cream
slender bloom
Fair enough! (I don't trust games as a service)
Were I not on the clock I'd have a drink
And I as a rule, do not drink.
slender bloom
Very good, and took home the big cheese
tight cave
Raise an imaginary glass of Ambrosia then.
atomic sparrow
for a type of game like hades 5 wins is mental
but totally understandable once you play it
fading bridge
gray apex
slender bloom
keen totem
I can't send messages so:
Oh the link loads xD Anyway CONGRATZ SUPERGIANT IT'S SO WELL DESERVED
half zephyr
links be how we send pictures
hot cargo
supergiant deserves all the awards
calm hawk
Did super say they were done making Hades content?
Or are they planning dlc/expansion/etc
narrow hemlock
There are currently no plans, as far as we're aware
half zephyr
@oblique sun
oblique sun
there will most likely not be any DLC, Hades is the biggest game SGG has released and they're probably burnt out on it- but also adding something would be difficult due to it most likely breaking the storyline- think of it like a finished puzzle that you can't add pieces to without cutting the already-placed pieces.
atomic sparrow
it would be fun to play as Hades, just cheesing throuhg everything just for the fun of it,, totally overpowered
tight cave
That would be cool, but also I'd say hard to smoothly explain lore-wise. Like you could say it's him trying to get to the surface before Zagreus so they can fight, but then again all the enemies are his employees.
Could do something set in the time of the war with the Titans, but I can't imagine DLC set directly before/after the base game being a thing.
half zephyr
but
Hades has a portal he uses
it's in the admin chamber I believe?
he has his ways of getting to the surface first
worn inlet
I'm honestly surprised the audio award didn't go to Hades, the OST is (pun absol...
stares hard at you
tight cave
*stares hard at you*
tight cave
I can't help it, wordplay is a pundamental part of my sense of humour.
worn inlet
Couldn't you go with like, phlegm or bile instead? Pardon me if I'm feeling a bit Galenic.
brisk trail
go hadess
hardy oasis
Yooooooo
Proud to see Hades get the recognition it deserves!
Especially out-competing juggernauts like TLOU2
As it should.
brisk trail
Ooh yes, well deserved for a game I got extremely addicted to.
unique locust
Congrats Supergiant! Well deserved!
wicked wolf
congrats for all the awards! you deserve all the recognition in the world
unborn remnant
Did it win goty?
copper lynx
So well deserved!!! Congrats supergiant- so hype!
unborn remnant
dub
grand crystal
its already such a cheap game 👀
granite shore
hades needs dlc lmao
grand crystal
-_-
there will most likely not be any DLC, Hades is the biggest game SGG has released and they're probably burnt out on it- but also adding something would be difficult due to it most likely breaking the storyline- think of it like a finished puzzle that you can't add pieces to without cutting the already-placed pieces.
eager kindle
Feels like this game is on sale so often lmao
half zephyr
It never stops does it
grand crystal
<a:BunPat:620144508377759745>
:3
brisk trail
I was hoping all 12 Olympians would be seen together in the game
wind dove
Congrats Supergiant and Logon on their haul of Gaming BAFTA's tonight! Thoroughly deserved... to everyone at SGG never stop being AMAZING!
grand crystal
I was hoping all 12 Olympians would be seen together in the game
also like 3-4(hestia is a strange situation) dont even appear lol
brisk trail
Hestia is the oldest among the 6 original Olympians, not Demeter lol.
In Hades' canon Demeter is.
brisk trail
also like 3-4(hestia is a strange situation) dont even appear lol
True, I felt sad about that.
She's referred to as the oldest several times.
Yes, I noticed that bit.
narrow hemlock
"It was never really our goal to add all of the Olympians, vs. telling the specific story we wanted to tell."
grand crystal
and i say hestia is strange is because in mythos dionysus took her place as olympian so like :/
flat bane
Supergiant is a good example of doing many different things with the same tools
brisk trail
https://discord.com/channels/456889434672201729/477164376496013323/6728813581497...
Seeing 10 of them is satisfying though
flat bane
All their games are very similar, but very different
brisk trail
My second fave from their catalogue is Transistor
grand crystal
transistor is my fave :3
brisk trail
Remembered playing it on an old iPad years before
grand crystal
Remembered playing it on an old iPad years before
lmao
flat bane
I've only played transistor and hades, but seen enough of pyre and bastion to understand them
brisk trail
Pyre and Bastion?
grand crystal
bastion was their first game and pyre was their 3rd
ive played bastion(most similar to hades in gameplay) and loved it and have yet to play pyre(fantasy basketball)
brisk trail
Transistor, I assume, was their second.
desert meadow
Yep
sick pecan
Hi everyone! I've been looking for Chaos' boon called "Defiance". Can anyone give me some specific advice? I've been playing the game for 178 hours and still haven't found it. It's my last Fate.
craggy barn
you need to get two boons from chaos and just hope that they offer it the next time you visit
grand crystal
^^yea thats about it
its i think one of the most hard legendaries to get because of the amount chaos can give and how little of them you can get
sick pecan
one boon is necessary before being able to get it, right?
sick pecan
ya, i have God's Favor turned on
grand crystal
yea 2 different chaos boons
craggy barn
good luck with getting those lights of ixion
craggy barn
you can look in the codex
sick pecan
Any good way to guarantee Chaos in Tartarus?
craggy barn
yeah that's about it
sick pecan
In the Codex, it says that it needs 1 of the following:
sick pecan
Aye, I hope I'll get them. Maybe I'll roll shops. XD
grand crystal
id say keeping rerolls for chaos is more important :3
desert meadow
Yeah, should be only one before hand needed
worn inlet
Guarantee? Yeah, besides the ixion, no.
sick pecan
ya, i roll at least once after i get the first boon
i'll start a run and see if I get lucky
thanks for the advice, mates
worn inlet
Makes keys a must-snag any time they show up
desert meadow
I got it after two tries for it, so hopefully, you get lucky
worn inlet
(You did get that upgrade, right?)
craggy barn
getting chaos defiance on high heat 
sick pecan
lol, im so unlucky
178 hours is too long, IMO
and I've been running Chaos egg for 20+ runs
grand crystal
getting chaos defiance on high heat <:residentzag:580097451197857816>
i never take chaos on high heats :3
sick pecan
I have all the upgrades
desert meadow
Why the egg?
desert meadow
Sure, you don’t loose health but it won’t increase the spawn rate of gates.
grand crystal
@craggy barn >:(
sick pecan
it stinks
craggy barn
chaos gate supremacy 💪
sick pecan
the egg helps to get legendary rarities
craggy barn
imagine having the boost from high confidence on early game when you can have a cool and epic boon from chaos lmaooooo
sick pecan
and Defiance is legendary
lol, I'm also running High Confidence
50 health FTW
extreme measures lvl 4, and middle management
Lucifer's gun helps. ^_^
grand crystal
50 health FTW
take gy rn coward
sick pecan
gy rn? @grand crystal
sick pecan
LOL
grand crystal
15 health
sick pecan
i have the 20% bonus for my gun
grand crystal
unless its leveled
desert meadow
Try GY on 63/64 heat.
sick pecan
I do use Guan Yu 95% of the time
grand crystal
i have the 20% bonus for my gun
smh 😔
brisk trail
I just play arthur and face tank everything
sick pecan
it's my fav game
LOL, i love Arthur
especially the big aura buff
the sword swing slow
but it SWINGS
sick pecan
ya, naice
brisk trail
I don’t have a top 5 but hades, sekiro, dishonored series and bioshock series are my favs
Deadcells used to be there but got bored
desert meadow
I know for sure MK Wii and Galaxy are up there, probably MC and Hades too, but otherwise idk
desert meadow
I haven’t heard of Raft, what is it?
sick pecan
Hollow Knight is awesome
Raft is a survival game where you build a raft and explore a world of mostly water and islands and landmarks
it has chapters with new major islands
and a good tech tree
lots of creative raft ideas
desert meadow
Sounds interesting
sick pecan
and many items and collectables
it's also "local multiplayer", but over internet
so the game isn't online 100%
half zephyr
So
sick pecan
but you can invite many friends
sick pecan
ya, we were chatting about Chaos's Defiance b4. I just nocited. XD
half zephyr
.>
desert meadow
Shadow, you’d make a good mod lol
half zephyr
I am one in a kpop server
sick pecan
lol 👏
half zephyr
Now I’m gonna scroll up to see if I can find some fun hades stuff
Sad
I missed both chaos & Arthur talk
sick pecan
I need advice on Chaos' Defiance that wasn't already discussed
=p
if you know more info, lemme know
please and thanks. ^_^
half zephyr
Idk
sick pecan
I'm in a run right now. XD
half zephyr
It really is just get lots of chaos gates, have legacy on, use egg if you want..
And reroll is nice
sick pecan
aye, i got them all
half zephyr
Very nice
half zephyr
So go for all keys if you have the key upgrade
desert meadow
Good luck
sick pecan
thanks! XD
sick pecan
oh, I thought I just need God's Legacy
half zephyr
But the one that gives more rare boons
sick pecan
10% legendary chance
sick pecan
I have the one that gives 20% increase chance of run-only rooms as well
do i need 40% rare?
and 20% epic?
desert meadow
The rare might help
half zephyr
The golden laurel upgrade will make it so more gods spawn (along with other gold laurel rooms) but less blue rooms
sick pecan
i have it turned off to increase run-room chances, but I dunno if that affects Chaos
i do get less keys
ya...
half zephyr
You want the blue rooms since keys are blue
desert meadow
Yeah, less keys is an oops
sick pecan
I'll fix it after this run
half zephyr
So if you wanna max the reroll then go rare
desert meadow
It’s why I keep it on
desert meadow
Rerolls are quite handy lol
sick pecan
I knew i'd refine my strat by asking for help
half zephyr
Don’t you just love when you go “please hide X with spoiler tags/don’t use the names” in the new player chat & they go ”oh, sure, np! Won’t do that!”
But then they never go back & edit the original msg
sick pecan
lawl, i would do it. Did someone forget to recently?
half zephyr
Yes
sick pecan
half zephyr
I remember when I had to say it 3 times & they still forgot so I just gave up
I said it once, left
Came back, reminded
sick pecan
desert meadow
Rip
brisk trail
do u guys prefer epic or leg/duo chance
half zephyr
So I just gave up
sick pecan
I prefer epic
half zephyr
do u guys prefer epic or leg/duo chance
Leg/duo, but epic is good on some builds
sick pecan
I'm only using legendary for Defiance
grand crystal
high heat epic is better
sick pecan
i thought so as well
grand crystal
lower heat it really doesnt matter much
sick pecan
the prime abilities are important
brisk trail
I'm running leg/duo atm to fill out prophecies but I think epic is better
grand crystal
You named dropped Rama, remember? And Beo above it
:/
desert meadow
do u guys prefer epic or leg/duo chance
Duos all the way
half zephyr
Oh I saw that Beowolf
sick pecan
the legendaries are nice, to a fault
brisk trail
some legendaries u have to go so far out of your way to get that's it's just not worth it
half zephyr
It’s just getting boons
brisk trail
some of the require 3 boons prerequisite
grand crystal
most only have a 2 req :/
half zephyr
Well, you kinda plan around that
grand crystal
and hermes you can just take trinket
desert meadow
I tend to base builds around duos tbh, but I can see why epic would be preferred with heat.
grand crystal
Well, you kinda plan around that
that too
brisk trail
most only have a 2 req :/
yeah but you need a tier one boon to get 2 tier 2 boons so it's 3 overall
half zephyr
“I’m hoping to get this legend, let’s make a cool build using these boons”
grand crystal
I tend to base builds around duos tbh, but I can see why epic would be preferred...
especially with ap
and its better on per say rama, since there isnt much duo/leg stuff to do with rama
half zephyr
yeah but you need a tier one boon to get 2 tier 2 boons so it's 3 overall
Who needs 2 t2 boons?
grand crystal
yeah but you need a tier one boon to get 2 tier 2 boons so it's 3 overall
thats like, only for 2 gods i think
dio(??)) dem(??)
brisk trail
demeter and someone else
desert meadow
Ap is the no mirror one, right?
sick pecan
i just got Icy Wine in the beginning of Asphodel. XD
grand crystal
they are the only 2 i think
half zephyr
That’s so specific
grand crystal
Ap is the no mirror one, right?
ap is the you lose 1 option of boons and hammers
and such
half zephyr
The others are more relax
desert meadow
Ah
grand crystal
ri is the mirror one
half zephyr
Unless it’s chaos who’s rng incarnate
brisk trail
chaos leg has the same chance as other legs right?
half zephyr
So I passed up on it
half zephyr
chaos leg has the same chance as other legs right?
brisk trail
ik you need 1 other
grand crystal
so essentilly since you can get the same chaos boons over and over
brisk trail
what
half zephyr
I’ve had the same chaos boon with different rarity in my run
grand crystal
that you can get the same bonus for diff penalties in one pool
sick pecan
ya, it stinks
grand crystal
and his legendary is 1 of those many
sick pecan
Defiance has eluded me for almost 180 hours
grand crystal
its the most hard one to get
grand crystal
also considering you dont get as many chaos as you do ther gods
half zephyr
Every boon he has you can get like 3 times
And those 3 times I’m talking about is just the same name w diff rarity
grand crystal
https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/llznpb/a_mostly_complete_guide_to...
reddit 🤮
brisk trail
is it wrong tho?
grand crystal
<a:AMNoSpray:782066472188510208>
;w;
grand crystal
is it wrong tho?
probably considering everyone considers chaos as the hardest one to get
brisk trail
maybe thats cos u need 2 chaos gates
sick pecan
cool article. thanks @brisk trail !
half zephyr
And all the rng
grand crystal
yea the gates in tandem with all those boons
brisk trail
I have 3 legs left to find including chaos
half zephyr
Good luck
grand crystal
also it seems a bit unecessary to code it that way :/
brisk trail
thank
grand crystal
like why code it as several random numbers and not just 1 that checks each
sick pecan
I did all the fates except for Chaos
brisk trail
artemis a lil harder
half zephyr
Ares
sick pecan
grand crystal
other 2 are aries and artemis
do a hunting blades run :3
grand crystal
hunting blades on achilles spear with stygian soul
thatll be a free run and probably net you both
desert meadow
is it wrong tho?
Took me longer to get Demeter’s legendary over Chaos’ so eh
sick pecan
i got all the boons organically except for many of Demeter's
I didn't see Chaos in Asphodel, and i rolled a shop once. QQ
no Ixions for me
should I keep the egg with me in Elysium? XD
grand crystal
should I keep the egg with me in Elysium? XD
yea why not lol
remote lily
opelit's awards 2020, for best game community, and the winner is... HADES community. There ware simply no competition. Glad to be here!
sick pecan
lol, yay!
sick pecan
lol!
I'm glad such a relatable and dynamic game was made
I started watching Haelian due to Hades
grand crystal
i honestly cant stand to watch people play games ive already played
since ill be a backseat gamer and just yell at the decisions on the inside ;w;
sick pecan
if they play well, it's worth it
that's the main reason why I watch Haelian
don't watch me: I can be reckless and make silly mistakes
although I can commentate while playing and have fun. XD
brisk trail
wish there were vc's here to stream games
sick pecan
i could stream it. I used to stream C&C: Rivals
but I just finished work, and i'm famished. ^_^
worn inlet
If you give up, does it start again with the exact same seed?
brisk trail
yo I got the very rare fish in chaos
brisk trail
If you give up, does it start again with the exact same seed?
yep
and it doesnt count as a run
broken needle
Does Chaos boons count against shackle?
grand crystal
Does Chaos boons count against shackle?
i dont think so
the only things that count against shackle are the core boons
broken needle
Thanks!
worn inlet
That's so weird.
brisk trail
you can always test it if ur unsure
worn inlet
I have.
that's why I asked
I also wish that maybe if the game crashes it'd be nice to not have to redo the whole thing from the start.
remote lily
If you give up, does it start again with the exact same seed?
It just revert your save state from the time before. Little behind the game.
grand crystal
but after that its dependent on how you move, shades move, etc etc
since the game calculates the rooms in an interesting way
broken needle
you can always test it if ur unsure
Tested, it works haha but I didn't want to waste my run
I'm guessing Hermes works the same
unborn remnant
Cant wait for the hades fragmovies to be a thing
rapid forum
brisk trail
thank u
rapid forum
Nice
worn inlet
https://imgur.com/2IFmvs3 LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I never take that lol
rapid forum
But I must say, the trade off is pretty severe
brisk trail
So there is such thing as a heroic boon?
worn inlet
Yeah
half zephyr
but you can only get heroic via special means
worn inlet
If you have a purple and a god offers to replace it, it will usually be a heroic
half zephyr
trade upgrade from epic, rare crop or eurydice upgrade
brisk trail
I never take that lol
needed it for prophecy :)
half zephyr
If you have a purple and a god offers to replace it, it will usually be a heroic
always
worn inlet
eurydice can upgrade an epic to one
brisk trail
Ooh, so I better grab the Demeter one.
worn inlet
Yes.
half zephyr
if you have epic the trade will always be heroic
brisk trail
also demeter can uprade boons
worn inlet
And rare crop will end up with the boons heroic
worn inlet
Yeah, but I said it in a way people can understand. 🙂
half zephyr
And rare crop will end up with the boons heroic
only if you have enough rooms
if you get rare crop in styx that's not a guarantee
brisk trail
I'm having a heck of the a time playing around with boon combos, and finishing some prophecies.
half zephyr
why wouldn't I?
half zephyr
I mean, if I do td1 I still have time
worn inlet
Noble, are the prophecies worth it?
grand crystal
Noble, are the prophecies worth it?
you get resources so :/
im not noble but still
half zephyr
still haven't done other td cuz I wanna try & spend more time looking around
brisk trail
Noble, are the prophecies worth it?
Yeah
craggy barn
are gemstones bad?
half zephyr
it'd be easy to get those other ways
easy..
craggy barn
later on it's not like you're even doing it for the money at that point
you just wanna get them done
half zephyr
gemstones is one of the hardest things to get a lot of
craggy barn
and it's not like these are huge, monumental tasks. they take like 2-3 runs to do at best
worn inlet
Gemstones aren't bad at all, they just can be focused on with chaos wells and the dionysus boon
you'll need a LOT of them, and they can be upconverted to diamonds and blood.
half zephyr
it's getting a lot that's difficult
I need my gems for the stupid theme
still missing around 2k
craggy barn
getting around to that arty theme
brisk trail
I'm farming so that I can spruce up the house
half zephyr
even when I get the reward upgrade boons, I still don't want to pick the gemstone rooms
cuz there's not enough to get from them
grand crystal
True and the 20 gold isn’t enough
worn inlet
Also compared to literally everything else with the good side bonuses
half zephyr
True and the 20 gold isn’t enough
mhmm
brisk trail
now that I've maxed nectar on the cthonic gods and other characters I keep forgetting to give nectar to the olympians
POG
got the ares leg
just artemis now
broken needle
EM4 Shackle is too hard
narrow hemlock
you guys shortening legendaries to leg makes for some really funny out of context commentary
craggy barn
man i just wanna get chaos' leg 😔
sick pecan
Is there a channel where I can post an image?
I just got the worst luck: Dio is forcing me to replace one of my boons. All of his choices are replacements
narrow hemlock
only #fan-works and #h1-victory-boasting allow direct uploads. you can post images in any other channel through uploading the image elsewhere and linking it here
sick pecan
ah, ok
narrow hemlock
protip, you can make your own personal discord server just for this purpose, without going through other hosts 
grand crystal
hehe thats what i did
craggy barn
so many people just use stuff like gyazo or imgur instead of just discord for some reason
craggy barn
it's way more convenient to just post the image in a personal server and paste the image link here than to go throught he trouble of opening up imgur
brisk trail
dash blade rift with vicious cycle is butchering hade
this is damage is insane
in phase 2 I took off almost half his health bar in one call
max call
narrow hemlock
so many people just use stuff like gyazo or imgur instead of just discord for so...
i use gyazo if im just taking a snapshot of a specific thing i want to focus on, its easier since i just select the area and its uploaded instantly. but any other uploads i have a personal server for. agreed imgur is a hassle lol.
blade rifts 
brisk trail
guys I have a rly good method for catching fish if anyone wants to know
for perfect catch
rapid forum
Currently I'm doing a run with zag rail and athena on attack
parry this, you filthy casual
brisk trail
speaking of fish, I finally got the hang of fishing lol.
ima share my tip
so
it is very easy to react to the bob, however, you need to react to the right bob and because our brain has to process whether or not it is the right bob, our reaction time is slower. There's a way to get around this. The time between when you start fishing/fake bob and the real bob, is faster than the time between start fishing/fake bob and fake bob. If you learn this timing you can prepare to react to any movement on a short amount of time but if it passes this time you can relax because it will always be a fake bob.
that way you cut out the thinking part
hallow peak
So for the last final secret aspects. ||I know that certain npc’s need fo say certain phrases to unlock them is a prerequisite|| but I haven’t got any is it super rare or am I missing something?
i am trying to unlock Arthur aspect.
hallow peak
it is very easy to react to the bob, however, you need to react to the right bob...
And screenshot
craggy barn
just get lucky /shrug
native bone
So for the last final secret aspects. ||I know that certain npc’s need fo say ce...
you just have to wait or something
craggy barn
there's no way to guarantee you'll get the phrase the next time to speak to them
brisk trail
||first you need to unlock any aspect aside from zagreus in 5 weapons, then you need atleast 5 blood in any of desired weapons aspects and then talk to the appropriate npc. you must unlock spear first then you can go for sword. spear is from achilles and sword is from nyx.|| this is the solution @hallow peak
hallow peak
||first you need to unlock any aspect aside from zagreus in 5 weapons, then you ...
Got ya what I had wrong is I though the blood I invested in the zagreus aspects counted
static stirrup
Fun moments in gamer parenting: you start referring to your overly energetic offspring as “child” because you’ve doing too many Nyx dialogues.
grand crystal
it is very easy to react to the bob, however, you need to react to the right bob...
what ive realized is that if it doesnt go down on the first bob then it has a chance every other. i.e.
if(bob1 != bite){
while(bite !+ true){
the next bob cant
this one can
}
}
brisk trail
got all legs lets gooooo
grand crystal
sorry for writing it out as code ;w; just was easiest for me
grand crystal
got all legs lets gooooo
pog
grand crystal
why is dusa so ambrosa thirsty
cuz i think its youre giving them for her and the lounge
she gives you an option to take it back after you forge her bond
brisk trail
is there any penalty for accepting?
brisk trail
well ambrosia will eventually mean nothing
omg zag gets a hot aphrodite poster
what r u doing step aphrodite 
grand crystal
what r u doing step aphrodite <:bingblush:779325040008757259>
._.
brisk trail
ok so ik rarity increases boon sell price but does level?
Yes.
Less than rarity, though.
grand crystal
learns how to play the stonk market
sacred stag
Mfw ||a small rat is the hardest boss in this game||
hallow peak
omg zag gets a hot aphrodite poster
Ayy lets gooo. Hot teenage dorm poster. Even though its technically incestuous.
narrow hemlock
let's keep it clean, as per server rules
distant quiver
Are attack and dash-attack separate from each other when computing damage bonuses?
For example, if you get a chaos boon that grants +50% attack bonus, when you dash-attack is that also 50% stronger?
Obviously, it does NOT work the other way around, where a bonus to dash-attack could affect your attack when you're standing still, but... you're still attacking when you dash-attack so that one is confusing.
brisk trail
does orpheus ever come back to the main area after you've done his favour?
distant quiver
does orpheus ever come back to the main area after you've done his favour?
yes
brisk trail
Are **attack** and **dash-attack** separate from each other when computing damag...
Boons that specify Attack but not Dash-Strike should always also affect Dash-Strikes.
Hammers that specify Attack will almost always affect just standing Attack.
distant quiver
interesting. okay, thanks!
hallow peak
let's keep it clean, as per server rules
Figured ||hoe|| was ok sorry
craggy barn
something really weird happened, while hades was firing his lasers in phase 2, i got him to half hp which made him go invincible. after he became vulnerable again he was still in his laser animation and when i used meg, he was stuck in that animation for the rest of the fight
hallow peak
Bad case of sailor mouth here sorry if something slips out or something mild to me is not to y’all
brisk trail
something really weird happened, while hades was firing his lasers in phase 2, i...
Did you 
?
compact badger
something really weird happened, while hades was firing his lasers in phase 2, i...
[Redacted], you mean
craggy barn
Did you <:f10:588476684609519617> ?
i definitely could have took away some of his health and then pressed f10
narrow hemlock
spoilers are allowed in this channel, though users may still tag content out of courtesy
craggy barn
but i was also on td3 and my entire focus was still the fight
i could try replicating it the next time, shouldn't be difficult
compact badger
Uh. What does F10 mean?
brisk trail
Pressing F10 in-game launches the bug reporter.
compact badger
Oh. Right. Thanks
brisk trail
In addition to the notes you can add, it will send that specific save instance so SGG can take a look at exactly what happened on your file.
compact badger
Is that explained in the controls menu or something? I don't remember it
craggy barn
In addition to the notes you can add, it will send that specific save instance s...
if only someone could've let me know about that sooner
as long as i can replicate it, i guess it should be fine enough
compact badger
if only someone could've let me know about that sooner
My exact same reaction 
calm eagle
I got the credits roll, and I was wondering something, regarding the billboard in the lounge. ||Now that Zag's official job is to test security, is it possible for him to be the featured servant?||
hollow hawk
Yes
narrow hemlock
it wont happen for a few runs but it will happen
iirc it needs to be a minimum of... 3-5? runs afterward
calm eagle
Sweet
hallow peak
Tatz did you see my apology?
Just wanna make sure we’re cool
I’ve been in too many groups where a simple transgression like that just makes them not trust me anymore
narrow hemlock
its not a big deal friend. just remember that this server has users of all ages so the things you post should be appropriate for that we are fairly chill besides that
hallow peak
Thanks will do
brisk trail
is there a limit to how many well of charons and pool of purgings can spawn in styx?
grand crystal
is there a limit to how many well of charons and pool of purgings can spawn in s...
I don’t think so, just luck
Cuz sometimes I get like 1 a hallway and other times none at all
brisk trail
luck was not on my side today
quartz flume
So nice to see Hades nailing BAFTA
brisk trail
orpheus has been missing for the past 3 runs
I need him for the music quest
do popper and bruiser appear in level 1 benefits package?
rapid forum
Who... are those people?
Oh
Yea they do
Level 2 gives elites 2 perks. If you're doing the fated list, I suggest go for level 2
It's also fun
brisk trail
btw does anyone know, are all duo boons a combination of 2 tier one boons or can they include tier 2 boons as well
rapid forum
As in rarity?
grand crystal
btw does anyone know, are all duo boons a combination of 2 tier one boons or can...
Yea wdym
rapid forum
Duo boons prerequisite works regardless of rarity
grand crystal
do popper and bruiser appear in level 1 benefits package?
Yea but things like popper and the fire one are area specific
brisk trail
tier 1 is a boon u can get anytime and tier 2 is a boon where you need a tier 1 first to get it
broken needle
For duo's I've only seen Tier 1's mix, never a Tier 2 boon
broken needle
You would expect a really powerful boon haha
grand crystal
The harder ones to get are like vengeful mood where you need 3 pre reqs I think
brisk trail
cool, thanks
grand crystal
Everything else is only 2 first tier iirc
broken needle
I would love an Art-Ares duo which deals crit dmg with spinner blade
rapid forum
Dude
grand crystal
I would love an Art-Ares duo which deals crit dmg with spinner blade
Ok no
broken needle
Hunting blades with pp
like high crit chance haha
rapid forum
Hunter's mark
broken needle
For that I would do 2 Tier 2 boons
grand crystal
That’s 60 damage every 0.3 seconds, might be 0.2 dont remember much
On average
That would shred
broken needle
I know, I want the critter shredder
grand crystal
Pair it with Achilles spear 150% buff 0-0
broken needle
Pair it with Achilles spear 150% buff 0-0
broken needle
That's not Guan Yu, right?
rapid forum
Nope
broken needle
I always mix the punish sweep with Guan Yu due to Achiles unlock
broken needle
That's my weakness haha
I can play well with every weapon except Spear
Specially Raging Rush
My fav weapon is Fists
hallow peak
btw does anyone know, are all duo boons a combination of 2 tier one boons or can...
Speaking of duo boons
I remember talking about them way earlier in the day
And at that time I had not gotten one yet
And not long after I did get one
What the heck unlocks them
Cause I am pretty sure I just got it at random
broken needle
What the heck unlocks them
Having the right Boons from 2 Gods and luck
hallow peak
Having the right Boons from 2 Gods and luck
Huh would figure it would have happened by now guess I took something different than I normally take
Also legendary boons
Why Am I getting those now
broken needle
Same for Legendary
hallow peak
Ok
hallow peak
Yep
broken needle
Have you bought the expansion pack from the Contractor?
hallow peak
So to even be able to get certain duo boons or legendary boons you need to have certain boons from two different gods
hallow peak
Have you bought the expansion pack from the Contractor?
Yes
broken needle
Open your Codex with "C"
Go to the god you wanna build your strat around
When you're on their page, press "B"
hallow peak
Ahh got ya
broken needle
You will then see a list of all their boons, legendary and duo included
hallow peak
I see now
broken needle
You can see their requirements on the right panel
stoic violet
What exactly counts towards nullifying shattered shackle? Only the specific attack, special, and cast boons or others too? Also if I get a cast boon to my attack and special revert to normal or still get the buff?
hollow hawk
only the attack special and cast boons nullify shackle, and your attack and special will still get the buff if you have a cast boon or vice versa
broken needle
What exactly counts towards nullifying shattered shackle? Only the specific atta...
Yes, only specific god boons for those slots
I had the same query earlier and also tested with Chaos and Hermes, no issues
stoic violet
So I can get attack up from other ways and it still works like chaos boons
broken needle
Yes
hallow peak
I doubt it but if you gift a olympic god more does it increase the chances you get their boons
hollow hawk
nope, you get their keepsake
hallow peak
Figured
hollow hawk
and you can get them to appear as the first god you see
broken needle
For example, Demeter's Icy Flare does not clash with cast shackle
stoic violet
Thanks! Shattered shackle seems pretty good
broken needle
Depends on build though hahaha
brisk trail
yo, if you get a new hammer from the anvil, will it count towards the prophecy?
by new I mean never obtained before
broken needle
Don't think so
brisk trail
aight ty
broken needle
For Prophecy you need to choose from the item
stoic violet
Does dash strike, like from Artemis cancel it out?
broken needle
The Shackle?
stoic violet
Yeah
broken needle
No, your dash deals no dmg at all
stoic violet
No, the dash strike boon
broken needle
Even if you choose an Attack boon, Shacle still works for Special and Cast
I mean, it won't increase the dmg of dash
But you won't waste the Shackle
stoic violet
Hunter Dash: Dash Strike deals more damage
grand crystal
Does dash strike, like from Artemis cancel it out?
Since dash striking is a separate attack I’d assume it looses the shackle but dash strikes are based on normal attack boon 
broken needle
No
stoic violet
@grand crystal that's what I was thinking
broken needle
The only 3 slots are Attack, Special and Cast
Anything that doesn't directly interfere with those 3, won't clash with Shackle
stoic violet
Ok
brisk trail
@broken needle idk if you've already answered this but if you get an attack boon with shackle, will it cancel just the attack stat or the whole shackle
broken needle
<@!493193412045176843> idk if you've already answered this but if you get an att...
Just the attack stack
broken needle
Eh, for high heats yea or boonless
Try Rama bow with it hahaha dmg is crazy per shot
compact badger
Does Rama work even at lvl 1?
broken needle
Does Rama work even at lvl 1?
You mean without empowering the weapon with blood?
compact badger
Empowering but just once 😦. Is it viable?
grand crystal
Try Rama bow with it hahaha dmg is crazy per shot
Yea Ik, I’ve done boonless with it :/
Yea just 30% from shared suffering is great
And Rama is just good
broken needle
Yea Ik, I’ve done boonless with it :/
I like boonless attack, Zeus/Artemis special and Athena Dash. Artemis for PP ofcourse
brisk trail
PP
broken needle
Preassure Points haha
grand crystal
PP <:bingblush:779325040008757259>
.-.
brisk trail
so whats the bow and arrow heart thing in the codex
grand crystal
Romance
grand crystal
You get that with dusa than and Meg
grand crystal
Yeaaa
brisk trail
he's so hot
broken needle
I'm all up for Meg
grand crystal
so is nyx and persphone
It’s not canonical but the community ships it
grand crystal
Than is a baby who doesn’t want to be alone >:(
broken needle
It’s not canonical but the community ships it
You mean Nyx? Come on, that's like your adoptive mother
brisk trail
OH THANK GOD, orpheus is back
grand crystal
You mean Nyx? Come on, that's like your adoptive mother
The nyx and Persephone ship I mean
broken needle
The nyx and Persephone ship I mean
Ahhh yes, I can see that actually
brisk trail
what r u doing step mum
grand crystal
what r u doing step mum <:bingblush:779325040008757259>
She is hot tho
Just 🥵
But yea the ships are neat
brisk trail
bond forged with skelly, hades and meg, still so many to go
grand crystal
You can romance all of em, none of em, only who you want, etc etc
For dusa than and Meg I mean
Those are the only romance options
And dusa is a 1/2 romance so :3
But I must sleep
So gn y’all
brisk trail
sleep well
broken needle
Night Plum
brisk trail
does 100% achievement completion involve finishing every prophecy?
peak zealot
IDK, finishing every prophecy didn't seem that hard though (at least I've finished all the ones I'm aware of)
brisk trail
I'm fine with doing it if it's required
btw hades is 3rd highest rated game on steam, even ahead of witcher 3, that is insane
like, supergiant, you nailed this game
peak zealot
IDK, game ratings are always kind of nonsense. Its definitely a good game
peak zealot
game recomender systems disagree. They think the best way to rate a game is to measure time/money spent on a game by players with similar playing habits
Basically, I'm just saying a 0-100 rating scale poorly captures how different people approach and evaluate games
hades is deifnitely a good game though
peak zealot
in unrelated news, anyone know why my fully upgraded aspect of gilgamesh maim damage is sometimes 300 and sometimes 400?
broken needle
Is the difference in Armor vs Non-armored mobs?
peak zealot
it was against skelly where I noticed the difference
some maims would deal 300, some 400, seemingly with no pattern
went through about 5 skellys trying to figure it out
broken needle
That's not good
peak zealot
killing skelly 5 times?
brisk trail
backstab?
peak zealot
I don't think maim is effected by backstab. At least it didn't seem to be in my limited testing
and in any case, the description says maim should deal 400 damage
brisk trail
I'm not even sure what aspect this is lol
peak zealot
hidden malphon(fists)
hollow hawk
are you on the latest version of the game? they fixed some issues relating to maim in a recent patch
oh are you on switch
hollow hawk
no
switch gets patch updates later than pc
its a bug that has been fixed
but you'll get the update a bit late, in the upcoming weeks probably
peak zealot
anything noteworthy to look forward to? or just bug fixes?
hollow hawk
you can check the patch notes in #hades-patch-notes
but yeah its generally just bug fixes
Infernal Arms, Aspects, & Abilities
from the feb patch
brisk trail
switch always get updates late
peak zealot
thanks for clearing that up for me
unrelated I love weird chaos boons like dash strike and backstab damage