#h1-discussion

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brisk trail
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does cosmic egg guarantee a chaos gate

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it doesn't say so but I feel like I always find one when it's eqipped

weak spruce
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nah

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placebo

brisk trail
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yeah

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what aspects have the highest dps

weak spruce
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aphro has highest dps I think

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wait you said aspects

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my bad

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I can't comment on that one

brisk trail
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idk about dps but arthur has some phat dpa

high island
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Eris has the best DPS.

brisk trail
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not to mention fantastic aoe

grand crystal
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chiron also has amazing dps

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and most cast weapons do too

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nemesis is also chunky

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but i think youre guaranteed 2 chaos gates an area

brisk trail
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You're not guaranteed any Chaos Gates.

grand crystal
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oh ;w;

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thought you were since i generally get one an area

tender basalt
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It’s a roll of the dice

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Like I once got none but another run I got 3

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Also I’m going to try and do a run later with aspect of guan yu on the Varatha since I just unlocked it

heavy hound
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Chaos is not guaranteed

high island
grand crystal
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it does tho

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like

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heart rend

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ez setup crazy damage

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sea storm is also good on it

high island
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Chiron's damage is all single-target.

tender basalt
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Which one is Chiron again?

high island
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And it's not the best at that, either.

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Homing Volley.

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If Chiron had good DPS, you'd see a lot more of it in speedruns.

tender basalt
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You mean the bow and arrow

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I haven’t played the game for more than a week so I don’t really have all the names memorized

high island
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Yes, the second bow aspect.

grand crystal
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like

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there have been fast runs i think

tender basalt
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Oh that, I tried it in a run and while it seemed good on paper for me it was bad in situations with many different enemies at once

lavish skiff
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does rush delivery count lambent plume?

high island
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Yes.

lavish skiff
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well that seems a little broken

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lets do it

brisk trail
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is there any reason to take dark foresight over olympian favour

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uhm are theseus and bull supposed to hit me with new attacks all of a sudden witout em3 ?

high island
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Yes.

brisk trail
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aight

heavy hound
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Yeah it was weird

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Threw me off

high island
heavy hound
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Also good rooms

tender basalt
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It’s always so fun to get those two to clash into each other squirtdevious

reef sentinel
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Hello I am new here

grand crystal
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hi apollo :3

reef sentinel
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hiiii c:

grand crystal
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hows the game been treating you so far??

tender basalt
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Also I remember laughing a bit when Asterius yeeted Thesius at me

reef sentinel
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I’m slowly but surely getting through it! It’s really fun and has good replayability

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I’m also obsessed with the soundtrack right now

tender basalt
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Yeah, I like how the story progresses by both each death and by each win

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Makes you not feel much of a punch to the gut if you die because then you actually made progress in another way

heavy hound
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Hello hello @reef sentinel !!

reef sentinel
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hiiii

tender basalt
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Also I’ve gotten quite used to not taking many health items and more on knowing how to dodge attacks

reef sentinel
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whoa that’s tough

tender basalt
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Usually end of the run I have about 125 to 200 health

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Mainly from rooms I have no choice to go to for health

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It does mean though I can get a lot of good boons and the such

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Means I can get more duos too because of having so many

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I absolutely love the Athena one for regen with no death defies, really good for the final boss

brisk trail
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if you don't turn in a fish will it be lost

tender basalt
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I... honestly don’t know

brisk trail
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I'm not gonna test it

tender basalt
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I always have turned them in right after every run just the reap the rewards

brisk trail
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same

signal otter
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get one hellfish, then die, then start a new run

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and die immediately

tender basalt
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Also is it just me or does it seem like Dusa is being a little romantic towards my character, like her overall nervousness around Zacreus is gone and she has hearts over her when I get near her

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Or is there a dating option in this game

signal otter
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she's a huge fan

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like starstruck

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there are romance options in the game if you want to spoil yourself

tender basalt
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ohhhhh, don’t tell me who though

signal otter
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yeah I won't spoil it for you

tender basalt
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I want to see who are candidates for it myself

brisk trail
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with the +X% chance to be rare or better, does that means it's +X% for rare and epic? and what about legendary

signal otter
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I imagine it just raises the roll, but I don't know for sure

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I imagine it's something like, it rolls to 100, and normally if it's below 50, it's common, below 80, rare, below 95, epic, etc.

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just speaking out of my ass

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actually no, rare and epic are separate

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there are things that only boost rare chances

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but if it says rare or better then it's both

hollow kettle
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"Open your mind to the possibility, nay the fact, that there are those who care about your wellbeing."

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Good advice Zag thank you, I will try to keep that in mind

signal otter
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is that the highest? I remember at some point I was at 69

red gust
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have you visited every room in styx

signal otter
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I have done all 5 routes in some runs

red gust
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then i think that's the maximum amount (?)

signal otter
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can you have variable amount of rooms per region? or is it a constant? because there was a point when I was at 69

red gust
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that i don't know. i always assumed it was the same amount every time, but maybe things like chaos gates might allow for some variety?

signal otter
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oh yeah gates could make a difference

half zephyr
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I think my highest was 73 last I checked

weak spruce
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says 77 for me

brisk trail
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does anyone know the base chances for different rarities

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without mirror upgrades and keepsakes

tender basalt
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That feeling when you get a legendary boon from posiedon and it’s just a boon for fishing

narrow hemlock
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was it just the single boon?

tender basalt
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Yes

narrow hemlock
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scripted event 😄

tender basalt
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Got me excited for second

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Why must you be more torturous than hades posiedon

narrow hemlock
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haha, well its still useful even if its not what you wanted, being able to fish more in a run ups your resource haul

tender basalt
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Yeah, but I still died that run though

narrow hemlock
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oof

tender basalt
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Also speaking of posiedon I got a weird though

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I wonder what the main 3 gods would look like with fully shaved off beards

brisk trail
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do god keepsakes not affect the first boon?

signal otter
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not always, you'll still get your keepsake's god at some point

brisk trail
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so weird how it says next boon but it isn't the next one

weak spruce
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I think you got a fixed story boon from poseidon

brisk trail
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ahhh

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ok

weak spruce
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does it give legendary fishing boon

brisk trail
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omg maybe lemme see hol up

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YEP IT WAS

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ok that makes sense then

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I was so confused

weak spruce
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yea you'll get aphrodite the first chance you can get a boon after that

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normally you'd get it there but story events come first

brisk trail
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yeah gotcha

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maybe I'll get lucky and spawn a fishing point in chaos

narrow hemlock
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that arrow means the effect of the keepsake hasnt been used yet

brisk trail
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I see, thanks

grand crystal
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and i think that posiedon boon, intro run having athena, 2nd run getting a zeus start, and ||demeter after you reach dad|| are the only story boons

brisk trail
grand crystal
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LMAO

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its best boon in the game tho ;w;

brisk trail
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mhm mhm sure

manic moat
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huge catch build best build

brisk trail
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nah man I need that coin for stix

signal otter
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crystal clarity is hilarious

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doesn't seem like it benefits from mirage shot though

brisk trail
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It does.

signal otter
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the second beam is offset

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but seems to be fixed at a set angle to the first beam

brisk trail
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my arthur hits are doing over 1k damage

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the third one of course

signal otter
brisk trail
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is it just me or are there a lot of gold pots in stix

signal otter
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yes it has a higher chance to spawn there

brisk trail
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I have 386 hp

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cool I won 2 heat yay

grand crystal
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🥳

brisk trail
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I caught a bass

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idk what it gonna give but ik it's something good

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got ambrosia ;p

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got river denizens achievement now :)

grand crystal
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🥳

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is that the run you sold the pos leg on??

brisk trail
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yeah, I got it after I sold the leg

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there was also one in stix but I botched it

grand crystal
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😔

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pos leg is best boon

brisk trail
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no

grand crystal
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makes fish more common is crazy

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i once got at least 10 fish in one run

brisk trail
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wow that's pretty good

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I didn't get any fish while I had it

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wait no, I got 1

grand crystal
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you see? amazing boon

brisk trail
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yep

grand crystal
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its saved my runs before i swear

brisk trail
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I bet it has

narrow hemlock
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not something people typically want on a run but when you're farming for resources getting it early can pay off quite well

grand crystal
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someone please help me out here

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^^TRUUUEEE

brisk trail
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whats the default leg chance

grand crystal
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it makes your runs extra worth it

brisk trail
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and default duo chance

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thanks

grand crystal
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i am now a member of the church of huge catch

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please join if you wish

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the huge catch fandom is dying

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(i am still a member of bow gang, i just dont have enough characters for it ;w;)

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i dont wanna @ anyone asking to join since its late ;w;

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but we need a following

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i-

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;w;

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this was a lie then 😔

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😭 the huge catch fandom is gonna die

hollow hawk
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20 runs whoa

grand crystal
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PAPER

hollow hawk
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i just randomly got a voidskate once while playing casually lol

grand crystal
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PAPER PLEASE

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JOIN THE CHURCH

hollow hawk
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whats up

grand crystal
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church of huge catch

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please

hollow hawk
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done

grand crystal
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;w;

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i see how it is you heretic

hollow hawk
queen osprey
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What if I said I got Voidskate and then trashed the run by giving up so Voidskate didn't really happen

grand crystal
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@heavy hound (sorry for the ping) can i ask you to join the church of big catch

queen osprey
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LOL

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What do I get if I join, my friend said I should just make Hades fishing simulator

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What does church provide

grand crystal
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ummm, my undying appreciation

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and dental

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you get dental insurance

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we also have cookies 🍪

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you see

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cookie

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🥛

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theres some milk for it too

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also the pride and glory that comes from being the 2nd member of the church of huge catch

queen osprey
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I'm lactose ))):

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Whoa

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SECOND?!

grand crystal
grand crystal
queen osprey
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Hmmmmmmm

grand crystal
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i made it like 10 minutes ago

queen osprey
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I do like having nice teeth

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Dental in Hades is horrible

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As you can imagine

grand crystal
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mhm :3

brisk trail
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do the infernal trove upgrades also increase the minimum reward you get or just the maximum

queen osprey
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Sulphur and brimstone not too nice on pearlys

grand crystal
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so youll be getting more

grand crystal
brisk trail
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ik that

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but

grand crystal
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well i must go to bed

brisk trail
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does it also increase the minimum amount

grand crystal
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so gn yall, ill try to indoctrinate more into the church tomorrow

grand crystal
brisk trail
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sleep well

queen osprey
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Ok

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If you remember me

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By tomorrow

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Then I will join

grand crystal
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lemme make note of your tag

queen osprey
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Hey

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That's cheating!

grand crystal
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:<

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ok

queen osprey
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Remmeber me for ME )):

grand crystal
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ok

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i will

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:3

queen osprey
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Good if I show interest

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You know something something followers respect iunno ok I should sleep too

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Lmao

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GOOD NIGHT LEADER

grand crystal
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good night fellow believer :3

modern arch
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I think my least fav Hermes boon is hyper sprint cuz I just suck at remembering it’s on and I can and will sprint into both traps and enemies :/

thick remnant
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||hey guys, i'm trying to unlock aspect of guan yu, but i'm having some trouble here, got every single task needed and aquiles is not giving any new dialogue||

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if someone could help pls

brisk trail
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any tips for catching very rare fish? My reaction time isn't great

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hello

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The lure only bobs 3 times, so if it gets 3, the next motion will be a fish.

half zephyr
brisk trail
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I thought it bobs 4 times

half zephyr
brisk trail
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🙂 getting hades tomorrow for switch

thick remnant
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i though it was 100% after meeting the requirements

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oh ty, i will do that

half zephyr
brisk trail
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@brisk trail Nope. Bobs up to 3 times, then there's a fish .

half zephyr
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the worst is instant reel

brisk trail
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Yeah, that's rough.

half zephyr
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you should turn up audio & listen for the right sound

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if you're on switch you can also feel for the vibration

brisk trail
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i have my vibration off

half zephyr
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I close my eyes completely when I fish cuz I know I have a trigger finger & I just react

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but I'm used to listening for bobs

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the top tip is always audio first

modern arch
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Yeah

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The three bob fish fourth is great cuz u can react way fast :)

brisk trail
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ok ok i found the fishing spot in chaos

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mmmmmmmmmmmm

modern arch
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Yay!

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I still haven’t gotten two of those fish ever

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Iv furnished all fish codex except for chaos :/

half zephyr
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I haven't had a chaos fish in over 20 runs

brisk trail
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only got the rare

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still 250 darkness is nice

half zephyr
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aah, rarity is determined by how fast you reel in btw

modern arch
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Oh yeh

brisk trail
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yah ik

brisk trail
modern arch
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I was fishing too fast at one point, meaning I couldn’t get the fish I wanted 😔

half zephyr
brisk trail
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I'll try audio in the future

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let u guys know how it goes

half zephyr
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I feel cheated by the onion

brisk trail
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I just didnt wanna mess up the chaos one

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I dont have this game yet

modern arch
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Iv only entered Erebus once (outside of mini boss)

half zephyr
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I went in intentionally to get the 3 I thought I needed for the codex.. only to find out I need even more now

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I don't wanna get them

modern arch
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Rip juber

brisk trail
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Im getting my switch physical tomorrow

half zephyr
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fun

modern arch
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:D

half zephyr
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I'm guessing you've already spoiled yourself about everything if you're hanging out in this channel

brisk trail
half zephyr
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do you care about spoilers?

modern arch
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Well then I’d suggest hanging out in new players

brisk trail
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Hmm idk

half zephyr
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cuz this is not the channel if you do

modern arch
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And even being careful in that

half zephyr
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this is massive spoiler territory

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story & otherwise

brisk trail
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Thanks

half zephyr
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the semi-spoiler free zone is the #h1-for-new-players channel, but the only things that are to be hidden or not talked about are end boss onwards, so everything up until end boss is discussed freely

stoic violet
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Would leveling up meg past the arrow be a choice verses Dusa? Can I do both?

red jewel
stoic violet
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There's a purple/red arrow in the nectar/ambrosia menu.

hollow hawk
stoic violet
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Ok. Thanks!

red jewel
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oh-
Its a simping thing :0

brisk trail
hollow hawk
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a heart with an arrow, yeah

distant quiver
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Anyone know what the different title/badge messages that appear in your security log for certain runs mean?

So far I've seen:

The First of Many?
Favored & Envied
Slow and Steady
Death Defier
Fountain Finder Award
Made Friends Along the Way
Fisher King
Middle-Management Cutter
Onion Eater
Minotaur's Toughness
The Big Five-Oh
Duo Digger
Poor as a Pauper
Happy Centennial
Swimming in Cash
Decathlete
Master Caster
Quarter Century
Erebus Gatekeeper
Disciple of {Zeus,Poseidon,Athena,Ares,Artemis,Dionysus}
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Some are pretty obvious but others not so much...

gray apex
distant quiver
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Cool, thanks! I knew there would be a message for taking all the kills when Thanatos shows up. I've come so close, so many times but he always seems to get one.

sleek grail
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wow hades has dialogue for u when a fish spawns near him

acoustic quartz
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yea lmao

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he got mad at the fish

craggy barn
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so i did a run about an hour ago and something weird happened. i got demeter in tartarus, then artemis and dionysus. at this point i have 4 gods and if i were to get a boon from another god, they wouldn't appear for the rest of the run. but midway through tart i saved and quit to do something and when i came back, i took the rose in asphodel in hopes of getting dash and then smouldering and that's that, but then aphrodite showed up again in elysium and then twice at styx, meanwhile demeter doesn't make an appearance

sleek grail
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keepsake maybe?

craggy barn
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i got mistral dash from demeter in tart and then sold it in elysium

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i'm damn sure i had dash from demeter before taking the rose for aphrodite because this run happened like just an hour ago and i didn't even purge it until i got to elysium

rapid agate
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i don't have 999999999 hp

hollow hawk
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sometimes you see all 5, and sometimes the game eliminates one for fun

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also wtf is that eris build lol

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dio dash dusa

vapid narwhal
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for priv stats I assume

oblique sun
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Wouldn't it be that he just that he got unlucky with demeter rewards and when he purged her only boon, only then did she get yeeted from pool

gray apex
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The god still stays in the pool even if you purge your only boon from them

hollow hawk
brisk trail
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does festive fog work against bosses?

hollow hawk
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yes

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especially with a cast aspect like hera or beo

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it can insta phase literally every boss in the game, provided you have a decent build

brisk trail
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groovy

brisk trail
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I've been trying to do a 16 heat guan yu 1 run

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needless to say, it's been pretty rough

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even the fury sisters together have been messing me up a bit

oblique sun
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Because festive fog, not trippy shot

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I don't think it stuns bosses-

hollow hawk
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Oh

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My bad then

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Yeah, it doesn't stun bosses

hollow hawk
brisk trail
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this game REALLY wants me to run hangover on guan yu

acoustic quartz
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spam special

brisk trail
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i dont think ill spam the special 5 times in a row as fast as id like

acoustic quartz
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😔

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my guan yu runs boil down to dash, special, dash, special, spin attack and repeat lmao

brisk trail
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i really like how it spawns elysium enemies while im in a tartarus erebus encounter

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an armored fast explosive small chariot spawned right under my feet as i was dashing

acoustic quartz
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yea same lmao

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got caught off guard and got hit 😔

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dad laughed at me

brisk trail
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the only thing that makes me more heated than dying to the first boss of the game from the first boss of the game is hypnos telling me i did

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the seeds im getting aren't that great either

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I haven't been able to get a call so dying in 1 hit with 30 damage overkill doesn't really help me at all

bright comet
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Is there a way to see if I caught a fish during run

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I save and quit and don't remember

signal aspen
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Just go to the chef in the lounge when you are done in the run

bright comet
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I need to know during run but oh well

signal aspen
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you cant

acoustic quartz
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im guessing this is for pos heart?

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if youre already at elysium just talk to him

signal aspen
acoustic quartz
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bruh

heavy hound
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Sorry I fell asleep

hollow hawk
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we had a discussion earlier about the poseidon fish legendary

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and from it sprouted a church that supported it

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and they desperately clawed on to gather followers, before miserably being brought down and reduced to shambles

heavy hound
signal aspen
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what

rapid forum
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say I joined the church, and somehow I got normal catch

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what will they do to me?

brazen lagoon
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sacrifice you to water uncle

signal aspen
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what

rapid forum
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and become a merman?

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sounds like a win win to me

signal aspen
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what

tight cave
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Water for the water god

acoustic quartz
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where can i join this church

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i get perfect catches i swear

manic moat
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I want to join the cult of dionysus

half zephyr
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Party & madness

unborn remnant
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good morning hades fans

tight cave
manic moat
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YOU'RE LOOKING GLAMOROUS

tight cave
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LET'S GET MISCHIEVIOUS

manic moat
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AND POLYAMOROUS

uncut ore
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I got eris lvl 2

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its probably gonna take a while to get used to

tough junco
oblique sun
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barca

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boat?

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charon?

tough junco
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yep

oblique sun
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yey

uncut ore
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I couldnt have figured that out

oblique sun
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i mean ig you could've just looked it up lol

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though what does aqueronte mean-

tough junco
oblique sun
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oh Philippines

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i have a friend from there

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but it was made in spain

tough junco
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i found it on a museum's site and my brain immediately went "ggggiuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhh"

oblique sun
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i guess that explains the spanish name

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i think you mean "huuuuurghh"

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i still love how charon has a "Quotes" page on the wiki

tough junco
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hrrrrrnhghnnn ||ZAG DON'T TAKE MY CASH MONEY||

oblique sun
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angry hooooaaaahhhh

unborn remnant
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Charon does indeed speak

tough junco
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screaming zagreus noises- wait that's pretty much the entire game

unborn remnant
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or something like that

oblique sun
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barca is boat

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but according to google aqueronte is "Acheron" which sounds like charon i guess?

unborn remnant
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oh

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The Boat of Charon

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makes sense

oblique sun
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helo

tough junco
oblique sun
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ooh

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i wonder how the river system works in the underworld

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styx temple and tartarus both have bloody water looks, then you have lethe of clouds and phlegethon of lava

tough junco
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we only ever saw hot soup river, amnesiac river, and dirty water river-

oblique sun
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like where does styx go

half zephyr
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it's complicated

tough junco
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oh yeah and tomato soup river

oblique sun
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and technically speaking they all should connect since charon takes us through all of them in ending

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so it's weird

unborn remnant
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yeah

tough junco
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there's just a point where the misty aesthetic lethe turns into the hot soup

unborn remnant
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zag should just swim up the river

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easy

tough junco
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charon just boats past zag swimming in phlegethon/asphodel like ?? ????????

oblique sun
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"i'm flame resistant, not flame proof!"

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this is the only reason zag can't do that

tough junco
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"out here living my best life" "zagreus is burning" "hrhrrnngngnnnnn"

unborn remnant
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oh

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I forgot about lava river

manic moat
tough junco
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"oh hi charon" but it's said like "oh hi mark"

unborn remnant
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"Hey Ron"
"Hey Billy"
"that hurt"

oblique sun
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GOD DMAN IT

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I was fricking looking it up

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lye

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:(

unborn remnant
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LMAO

oblique sun
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aaa

unborn remnant
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hey, at least we're on the same wavelength

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right?

oblique sun
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yyep

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same braincell

half zephyr
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you cans read

tough junco
unborn remnant
half zephyr
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but even finding information on the rivers is nyaShrug

#

it's all still mythology so there's a lot of stories

oblique sun
#

i mean it is mythology over 2500 years old

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so

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anyways i'm late

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see you all later

uncut ore
#

wait is thanatos zag's stepbro?

oblique sun
#

not really

uncut ore
#

and you can romance him?

uncut ore
oblique sun
#

than is son of nyx, and i don't think nyx and hades are married--

acoustic quartz
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i mean

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i guess?

tight cave
# oblique sun i still love how charon has a "Quotes" page on the wiki

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@LikChan As a matter of fact, we have this handy little infographic about it, since the question's come up a few times! The numbers may not be 100% accurate depending on how you count but should be close.

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oblique sun
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i mean they were pretending to be step bros

acoustic quartz
#

nyx is kinda zags step mom

half zephyr
#

foster mom

oblique sun
#

but they're not married

half zephyr
#

not step

#

she is his foster mom

oblique sun
#

yea

acoustic quartz
#

ok i kinda forgot what step means lmao

half zephyr
#

you become a step parent when you marry the actual parent

acoustic quartz
#

yea haha

#

me dumdum

steep spruce
#

@high island

#

I can talk here now right?

half zephyr
#

yes, but beware casual story spoilers

high island
steep spruce
#

👍

#

Before you go though

#

I need to add 2 conditions to get my bounties

#

Which ones are easiest dusa

high island
#

lol

half zephyr
#

TD, but maybe not if you spend 40 mins

eager orbit
#

Hey people, is there a place where I can go to Hades only server? Also, how do I put spoiler tags in my words?

half zephyr
#

EM is easy

high island
#

Tight Deadline 1 should be fine. Just pause the game when you choose an exit, and prioritize shops and minibosses because they're faster.

hollow hawk
#

td isnt easy for beginners id say

acoustic quartz
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the one that absorbs initial damage

half zephyr
#

DC is easy

high island
#

And friend rooms.

acoustic quartz
#

i forgot the name

hollow hawk
#

dc is easy for some aspects

half zephyr
acoustic quartz
#

right

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its easy for fast weapons

hollow hawk
#

dc is terrible for some weapons

steep spruce
#

I just need the one td stack for bounties

#

Ill take that

half zephyr
#

yes, but in general it's a selection of the easier ones

#

like, to me BP is easy

#

it's fun

hollow hawk
#

just remember to pause when youre making decisions like what to buy in a shop, what room to pick

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as the timer pauses when you pause

half zephyr
#

BP2 can be a bit more risky

#

MM is also easy fun, though maybe not combined with BP

hollow hawk
#

mm literally has no effect on bp though

steep spruce
#

Extreme measures dusa

hollow hawk
#

why would they not be easy combined together

acoustic quartz
#

EM1 is easy

high island
#

Extreme Measures 1 and 2 are also very doable.

steep spruce
#

Actually ykw

acoustic quartz
#

EM2 can be a bit difficult if you dont know how to handle your dashes imo

steep spruce
#

Screw td for now

#

Em 1 time

hardy arrow
#

I'd recommend EM1, it's fun and not extemely hard

steep spruce
#

The sooner I start practicing those bosses the better

half zephyr
hollow hawk
#

what

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mm doesnt make armoured foes appear more often

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or in more numbers

#

if thats what youre saying

eager orbit
#

I use chiron bow with extreme at 3 also 2 blue armor (forgot the name), 18 minute ez

hollow hawk
#

neither does bp affect minibosses

half zephyr
#

it's hard to explain

#

I can't find the english

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it wasn't fun for me

high island
#

If anything, two of the BP perks increase enemy difficulty rating, so you'd find fewer armored enemies on average.

#

Since that's focused on builds and combat.

hollow hawk
#

i guess the only way they dont fit together is if you lose more health in bp armored rooms and hence die to minibosses?

steep spruce
#

Alright

half zephyr
#

no the BP rooms are easy

#

both BP1 & 2 are easy fun

#

I admit the teleporting speedy firechariots can be a bit annoying though

high island
#

All the pacts are easy in isolation.

acoustic quartz
#

HS is hell for me even alone lmao

#

cuz dad urns

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and styx guilotines

half zephyr
#

arthur

high island
#

Have you tried not stepping on traps? squirtnya

acoustic quartz
#

no

high island
acoustic quartz
#

yea i found out arthur special nulls traps lmao

hollow hawk
#

i tried that but then i died to dad spins because i was too focused on not stepping on the urn

#

send help :(

acoustic quartz
#

idk how i didnt know that beforehand

high island
#

Only some traps.

#

But yeah, that really helps a lot.

half zephyr
#

ye, ground traps

void vigil
oblique sun
#

||like this||

high island
#

That's actually because it was difficult to see the trap platforms through Hallowed Ground, and people complained, and then a player suggested it should just disable traps.

half zephyr
#

nice lol

oblique sun
#

Interesting trivia

half zephyr
#

Zag vs Theseus using Arthur

high island
#

Zag vs Theseus using Hestia

half zephyr
oblique sun
#

Amazing

oblique sun
#

Is zag's right eyelid (is that the word) black or white? I used to see it as black in his talking sprites, then realized it's white and it was actually just a shadow thanks to his stern-looking front-facing talking sprite, but now I'm seeing a lot of art with black so I was just wondering if it is actually black and I'm just misremembering or if it's a common mistake because I and my friends thought that too

half zephyr
oblique sun
#

White

half zephyr
#

you can look at his face clearly in frames hehe

oblique sun
#

So commun misconception

#

Common

#

?

half zephyr
#

and that's the sclera if you mean the eye

oblique sun
#

That's a word I never heard before

#

Capiche

half zephyr
#

really??

oblique sun
#

I got that thought when I saw the boon art in fan works

half zephyr
#

the eye has the Pupil, Iris & Sclera

oblique sun
#

I mean I don't study in English so I never came across that word >~>

half zephyr
#

and then the eyelid covers it

oblique sun
#

Heard of pupil and iris because of Internet

half zephyr
#

eyelid is the english

oblique sun
#

I don't study in Latin either

#

There's countries outside of Europe and America

half zephyr
#

I've never studied latin

oblique sun
#

I've never studied in any Latin language*

#

I'm Arabic

#

Actually I do study french but it's just a language we don't do studies in french until high school
..which I reached- but we studied the eye in middle school

half zephyr
#

oh, I just know it from documentaries & tv shows

#

maybe also from the fact I wear glasses

#

I can't remember covering eyes in school, but we might've nyaShrug

oblique sun
#

Ig

#

You already know I'm not the best at English from the other day lol

#

Anyways. Hades.

dull tangle
#

LET'S GO ||I BEAT EM4 HADES FOR THE FIRST TIME||

#

i'm so happy

acoustic quartz
#

congrats!

#

its so satisfying to beat him tbh

#

well not for me since i used a super cheese build lmao

brisk trail
#

if i wanna play hades on pc do i gotta buy it again? im on switch

quaint wind
#

yeah

half zephyr
#

yup, but on the plus side you got cross-saves

plucky crag
#

is there a difference between the nintendo version and the pc one

brisk trail
brisk trail
plucky crag
#

k

half zephyr
#

but gameplay is the same

plucky crag
#

i got my hades on the epic games store cuz there was a deal and im somewhat broke

brisk trail
#

I prefer the EGS to Steam. No DRM.

#

I got Hades just under two years ago, before it released on Steam, and now it's just permanently attached to my Taskbar.

#

Cross-saves work no matter the launcher, though.

lime rose
half zephyr
#

I haven't noticed any lag yet 😗

#

on either version

grand crystal
#

I only had lag once and my build made a lot of particle effects and even then it wasn’t that bad

twin moat
#

Does anyone know how many bloods does it take to upgrade all aspects?

half zephyr
#

uhm

#

plum

#

you the math guy

grand crystal
half zephyr
#

do the thing

twin moat
#

Alright lool

half zephyr
#

also, I support your new religion

brisk trail
#

306, by my really rough mental math.

grand crystal
#

All zag aspects: 1 1 1 1 1
Aspect right below that: 1 2 3 4 5
Aspect below that: 2 2 3 4 5
Hidden aspect 3 3 3 3 3

half zephyr
#

plus unlocking?

#

or is unlocking part of it

grand crystal
#

That’s for each level so zag aspects take 5, 2nd aspect takes 15, third takes 16, and hidden takes 15

half zephyr
#

I don't remember anymore

grand crystal
#

Since unlocking is level 1

half zephyr
twin moat
#

Ty

carmine parcel
#

guys what is this?

oblique sun
#

obol

#

i mean it is the sign of an obol

unborn remnant
#

coin

oblique sun
#

but only one save can have it at a time

carmine parcel
#

i know it's a coin what does it mean?

oblique sun
#

i think you can't enter a save unless you have it

unborn remnant
#

it doesnt mean anything

oblique sun
#

so you don't accidentally get into another save

unborn remnant
#

or that idk

oblique sun
#

so you have to double click a save to enter it

carmine parcel
#

oh i see

oblique sun
#

first click to switch the obol there, second to enter it

carmine parcel
#

thanks

oblique sun
#

not sure, this is just what i think it is

unborn remnant
#

is that really it?

#

I just thought it was a funny icon

oblique sun
#

well i do have 2 saves and i accidentally clicked my friend's save but it didn't open his save

#

it just switched the obol there

#

so that's the only practicality i know of

#

it may have more

unborn remnant
#

Its probably just indicating the last played file

oblique sun
#

yeah that's what i was gonna say at first

#

i mean, it technically is in most cases lol

void vigil
#

it indicates the save profile you currently have selected

oblique sun
#

yeah i guess "selected" fits what i explain then

tired axle
#

what's a good build for rama's bow?

oblique sun
#

umm hold on

hardy arrow
#

For the special Zeus or Dionysus would make good use of the high rate if fire. Ares on special would also greatly increase damage.

brisk trail
#

Poseidon has the second-lowest % increase for Attack, after Artemis.

oblique sun
#

but arty has crits

brisk trail
#

And Poseidon has wall damage, but there's a reason that Artemis and Aphrodite are the undisputed kings of DPS.

#

Tidal Dash makes up the gap by being extremely overtuned.

half zephyr
#

poseidon is great at clearing rooms

#

but not so great at boss fights

brisk trail
#

also all you controller bums get auto-targetting, even with Aim Assist Hades hates my aim

signal otter
#

I feel the same way about zeus cast

#

it doesn't seem to do much against bosses

#

I like artemis cast better

#

now that I have more gems than I care to spend, I've found myself often trading for a key at the broker just so I don't have to see his sad face, when the special isn't good

carmine parcel
#

also when hades talks before starting a run what changes?

brisk trail
#

Nothing.

carmine parcel
#

ok thanks

oblique sun
#

just lore i guess

brisk trail
#

Basically, yeah.

#

It's flashbacks Zag has to stuff Hades has said to him in the past.

#

It's one of the most subtle but nicest touches in the entire game.

oblique sun
#

it's not very subtle he's shouting at you

brisk trail
#

You've got some splashes that are only showed before or after credits (BRAT is one of the most abusive, holy cow, and it goes away after Persephone comes back), but most/all of the ones that stick around after get different reactions from Zagreus than before the credits.

#

HOME has Zag say "My place is with my mother," before credits and something along the lines of "What do you know, he was right." after.

high island
signal otter
#

I got that in my most recent poseidon sword run, it was glorious

high island
#

Poseidon Aspect can do just fine without it.

#

Since you can just dislodge Casts with your Special.

#

Max level Hera can get by without Auto Reload, too.

signal otter
#

it still saves time since you don't have to go grab them if they're on the other side of your opponent

#

for builds where I can't dislodge I actually prefer stygian soul

high island
#

For Cast builds, Stygian Soul is only really meta for Trippy Shot/Trippy Flare.

#

I can't type today apparently lol.

signal otter
#

and the laser too?

brisk trail
#

Stygian Soul is waaay better than Infernal for Crystal Beam, especially if you can pick up Glacial Glare.

warped iron
#

Why is stygian soul better?

#

for crystal beam*

signal otter
#

so my reasoning is that, if you can't dislodge, your DPS is still roughly the same at base, but stygian has less burst, which doesn't matter so much in boss fights

brisk trail
#

The Crystals already stay on the ground for quite a long time, but if you're limited to only 3-6 Bloodstones.

signal otter
#

but you don't have to chase your casts

brisk trail
#

And once they disappear you need to pick them back up to replace them.

signal otter
#

and any time you get an extra cast via chaos or charon it scales much better

brisk trail
#

But with Stygian Soul on top of Quick Reload and Glacial Glare will let you constantly set new Casts.

warped iron
#

and doesn't stygian soul also open up Bad News legendary

brisk trail
#

I think I've had 12 on the field at once before, with a high rarity Quick Reload and 3 Casts.

#

Also that.

warped iron
#

that was my main thought honestly

brisk trail
#

Bad News is mean on the three non-lodging Casts.

warped iron
#

i can't remember, is bad news +50% base or just +50%?

brisk trail
#

+50% additive.

warped iron
#

still big

signal otter
#

3 crystals every 3 seconds or so

tight cave
#

Does anyone know how/if Mirage Shot works with Crystal Beam? Just had a run with it, didn't notice any difference.

brisk trail
#

guys

#

what is the last weapon

#

to be unlocked

#

can i have a mini spoiler

grand crystal
#

rail?

#

i think rail is the last one

brisk trail
#

what

grand crystal
#

for base weapons

brisk trail
#

really

#

didn't except rail

#

as a mythical weapon

#

name

grand crystal
#

yea you get a gun

brisk trail
#

wtf]

#

ur lyign

grand crystal
#

the rail of adamant

brisk trail
#

a gun ?

grand crystal
#

the weapon used by hestia

#

yea

#

a gun

brisk trail
#

like a power blaster

#

not a glock

grand crystal
#

no its a gun

#

essentially a rifle

#

you can make it a shotgun too with the right hammer

#

its a gun

#

sgg has had guns before, bastion had like 3 and in transistor you get a laser gun thing for the sword

#

pyre is the only gunless game

#

(although the plot of pyre wouldve been very interesting with a gun)

half zephyr
#

"Can I have a mini spoiler"

grand crystal
#

like just give tizo a gun

half zephyr
grand crystal
#

its a gun

#

idk what else to say

#

its just a gun

brisk trail
#

Rail gun

grand crystal
#

still a gun

half zephyr
#

"last weapon is a ranged weapon"

brisk trail
#

Yeah, a rail gun. It's in the name

half zephyr
#

"one that you might be surprised seeing in this setting"

grand crystal
#

i mean theseus gets one too so :3

half zephyr
#

there's just more less-spoilery ways then sending a link where the embed picture is the weapon hehe

grand crystal
#

they thought i was joking

#

so i had to give wiki link

#

of gun

half zephyr
#

nono

#

you could've let them think it was joke

#

would be more fun when they unlock it

grand crystal
#

._.

#

well you can explain it to people next time

half zephyr
half zephyr
trail pendant
solid scroll
#

Why does the Satyr poison sometimes deal so much more damage? I just lost 160HP in about 3 seconds to it

hardy arrow
#

So if get hit by 3 satyr darts or stand in a puddle you take more damage.

solid scroll
#

Guess that's what happened, thanks.

hardy arrow
#

Gotta lose that poison ASAP! Although sometimes it's faster to finish the encounter than to get to the antidote.

flat bane
#

Fun note, you can reflect their poison, and it does effect enemies

#

but I've also just felt it was fine to turtle those encounters, and just shoot them from across the room

edgy wedge
#

found a tiermaker of bond forged icons time to review them

cunning cradle
#

just got the ||threesome|| scene yay zagluv

brisk trail
#

Time to do a farming run

ocean oxide
#

has there been any talk of expansions?

brisk trail
#

Nope.

deep ibex
#

how quick is quick for the hermes trinket

brisk trail
#

Nothing out of SGG since they released the last update.

deep ibex
brisk trail
#

Changes based on the room comp.

ocean oxide
brisk trail
#

You just gotta beat the little timer underneath the keepsake in any given room.

#

I went 28-7 with thanatos :)

carmine ravine
#

For the achievement?

brisk trail
#

I got the achievement previously but this is a new record for me

#

is it possible to get the sack for cerberus from the first room

half zephyr
#

no

#

you can get it from any tunnel, but never the first one you enter

brisk trail
#

ok

#

cool, I guessed that cos I've never gotten it from first but I just wanted to check

#

thanks

#

after you finish the first one, is the cerberus sack determined then or only when you enter a tunnel

#

and if it's the latter is there an increasing chance for to spawn each time you enter a new tunnel

half zephyr
#

that I got no clue about cuz I don't care enough to wonder about it

brisk trail
#

fair enough

half zephyr
brisk trail
#

I think it's random each time.

#

25%, 33%, 50%, 100%, depending on the amount of tunnels left when you pick one.

#

that would make sense

#

for the first time I beat hades without death defiance

#

I had 3 but didn't use any

#

Very nice!

#

Getting a no-hit is borderline RNG, but it's the second-most satisfying win in the game.

#

whats the first

#

Skunking Than. ron

#

???

#

There's a score whenever Than shows up.

#

It's possible to kill everything so fast he gets no kills.

#

ahh

#

is there an extra reward for that?

half zephyr
#

there's a title

#

at the victory screen

#

afaik

brisk trail
#

what's the chance of the ||charon boss|| spawning

half zephyr
#

think someone said 22%?

#

can only spawn in mid-level shops

brisk trail
#

SPEAKING OF

#

just spawned for me

#

Has a 22% chance to spawn in a given run, and evenly split between each of the three biomes, and will only spawn once per run.

#

bruh

#

I just dealt 2300 damage in a single weapon attack

grand crystal
#

thats how the game can be

#

ive had some crazy rama builds just shred

brisk trail
#

it was a crit arthur sweep against armour with breaching slash

grand crystal
#

ahh

#

ive had rama stuff one-shot the butterfly ball miniboss

#

just setup boiling and shared suffering with chunky hammers and attack

#

it was a lot

brisk trail
#

with fishing, is the timing between bobs always the same?

#

theres a lot of females in the hades fandom compared to other rogues it seems

#

guessing the art must be the reason

craggy barn
#

🤨

brisk trail
#

what did i say that was so confusing

brazen lagoon
brisk trail
#

i dont even understand what i did lmao

#

It's a neutral term in a vacuum, but "females" can be a pretty loaded term. It's been used in very sexist connotations in the past and I'm sure a number of people here have been on the wrong end of it.

#

I don't know about you all, but I find Nyx hot.

#

^^^

brisk trail
#

it just doesn't really matter, who cares who plays, it's a great game

#

That being said, commenting on the gender distribution of a population is kinda sketch, and it's not like any gender is a monolith.

#

how

#

There's all kinds of people in every subcategory of life.

#

don't sweat it jubber, just like, no one cares

#

I'm not saying you came here to be a jerk, but your opening message had more potential than most to put people on edge.

#

still dont understand

#

The language you used is why people are side-eyeing you. Don't worry about the genders of the people who like Hades. It's irrelevant.

#

i just thought it was interesting, most players ive met in nuclear throne, isaac n dead cells tend be male. i dont care if ur a girl or a boy.. lol just thought it was intresting

#

is it possible to get 2 chaos gates on one level

#

Yes.

#

great intro

#

can you rng it or does it have to be forced by the well of charon item

#

It can be RNG.

craggy barn
#

there's something about how chaos gates can't appear until after a couple chambers unless forced by ixion or whatever but i have very vague ""knowledge"" about it

tender basalt
#

They can appear in the very first chamber if you are lucky enough

#

But they also forcefully appear with the item you can buy, I don’t remember it’s name

craggy barn
#

light of ixion

tender basalt
#

Yeah that

#

It has caused me sometimes to get two back to back

brisk trail
#

so...

#

OMG OMG YES LETS GOOOOO I GOT THE VERY RARE FISH

brazen lagoon
brisk trail
#

How do I fish?

half zephyr
#

you buy the rod of fishing

brisk trail
#

That's the only thing I haven't mastered lol

half zephyr
#

and wait for spots

brisk trail
#

it was only an asphodel fish but hey, I did the fishing prophecy

half zephyr
#

and then you listen for the right audio que after you interact with the fishing spot

#

some claim there's a flash of light too

#

rarity depends on your reel speed

#

there is a flash of light btw, I just have my eyes closed when I fish so I never see it

brisk trail
#

dude I tried your eyes closed sound react thing and I always got the common fish

#

so now I'm back to visual reaction

half zephyr
#

you don't react fast enough then

brisk trail
#

true

half zephyr
#

it works for me - doesn't mean it'll work for you

#

I can't use visual

brisk trail
#

I'm not super fast enough then

#

I mean, I got the very rare fish off visual cue so ig that works for me

half zephyr
#

I react at nothing when I use my eyes cuz I'm too tense

brisk trail
#

if sound works for u then epic

tender basalt
#

Wait so how fast you pull up the rod when the bobber goes down determines it’s rarity

half zephyr
#

yup

#

I should prolly try to use visual a bit cuz I need to catch some more common & rare fish for the codex :/

brisk trail
#

thankfully you only need to catch one of each very rare fish for the codex

#

2 more god prophecies left

#

divine parings and power without equal is gonna take FOREVER to get

#

I once had a complete Fishdex and then had to roll back my save. I can't even remember why, and it was during EA (could've been the Blood Price Update), but I lost like two Voidskates.

#

I haven't seen one since, and I'm pretty sure I've missed two Chaos fish, too.

half zephyr
#

I need more of them to get the full entry

#

so many fishes

#

so sad

brisk trail
#

wdym no

half zephyr
#

especially when they won't spawn at all ir_cry_sob

brisk trail
#

I checked the codex and you only need one of each very rare to complete the very rare entry

half zephyr
#

hmm, could've sworn I needed another voidskate, but maybe it was a projelly

#

I haven't had a chaos fish spawn in over 20 runs megasob

#

ooh, my sturgeon is complete

brisk trail
#

I botched a chaos fish once sad_bingus

half zephyr
#

guh, still need a flameater

#

so

#

you do need to catch the legends more then once

bronze flint
#

Who are all the people who give companions?

half zephyr
#

cuz I have it registered, but I need another catch to complete the entry

brisk trail
#

I caught one flameater and it says entry complete

half zephyr
bronze flint
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I know dust and skelly

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Dusa

brisk trail
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wait wtf

half zephyr
brisk trail
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maybe I have caught a flameater in the past?

bronze flint
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Thanks

brisk trail
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I don't think I did

half zephyr
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I'm missing a Flameater (legend) and Mati (common)

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if I can get those 2 I'll have fully completed the fishdex

brisk trail
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nice

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idrc about codex atm, just tryna do prophecies

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and actually beat the game with all the weapons

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I've done heat 5 with sword and haven't beaten the game with any other weapons

half zephyr
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huh

brisk trail
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only poseidons prophecy left

half zephyr
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no

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you'll get more hehe

brisk trail
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wdym

half zephyr
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if you've only escaped with the 1 weapon

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you'll still get more prophecies

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they're tied to some aspects

grand crystal
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^^yea each hidden aspect has one, each infernal arm needs you to escape with it, etc etc

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some gods have funny prophecies too

half zephyr
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well

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they require you to make an attempt

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and get to a certain point

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and some do need you to escape

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lots of prophecies

grand crystal
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yea infernal arms does, hidden aspects just need you to reach final boss

grand crystal
half zephyr
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I'm trying not to spoil by being vague

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and then you just go & spell it out

grand crystal
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:/

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it literally tells you what to do in the prophecy menu

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its not like its a secret

grand crystal
half zephyr
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they're at 5 heat - they know who final boss is hehe

brisk trail
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Hell Mode starts at 5 Heat.

half zephyr
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yes, this didn't sound like hell mode

brisk trail
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Oh, nevermind.

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Yes, you're right.