h1-discussion

[hasty owl]

this is the first time i’ve seen it in 230+ runs

[cunning cradle]

you don't start speedruning attempting WR, every PB feels awesome!

[hasty owl]

15:36!! my pb!!

aaa

i love hestia rail

aaa

ok now i gotta get a sub 15

but i’ll do that tomorrow lol

and i got a perfect catch on the surface

what a run

[hardy kernel]

you get a sturgeon?

[hasty owl]

hell yes i got a sturgeon

[olive pasture]

Back at Mino and Theseus

Wish me luck

[night cloud]

I have big vermins and satyrs

Poison is such a pain in the back 😄

[opal oar]

how do i fish better

[hasty owl]

i do it through sound queues

listen for the BIG splash

then press button asap

[opal oar]

my reaction time might just suck

[rocky patrol]

How do you unlock the 4th aspect of the sword I can’t figure it out

[winter harbor]

Blood

||also you have to unlock Guan Yu, the hidden spear aspect, first||

[night cloud]

Can I not stop playing when I am next to Cerberus?

[karmic trellis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/800967579920760855/820386091735449610/20210313115639_1.jpg

Gee thanks Hypnos

[upbeat frost]

I finally beat hades and Met persephone

[half zephyr]

Congrats on first clear

Now you can get moar story

[upbeat frost]

I felt amazing after that

[half zephyr]

Next stop - the end credits

[rocky patrol]

Should I use Priveliged status or family favorite

[rocky patrol]

Also thanks

[half zephyr]

PS \0/

But only if you know you can manage to snag the status effects, and that you’ll be fine even if you don’t

[rocky patrol]

Ok

[half zephyr]

If not then family favorite is easier to get

But all the gods except Hermes have status effects

[rocky patrol]

I have a hard time deciding between dark foresight and Olympian favor they both seem good

[half zephyr]

Dark foresight unless you’re doing farming runs

[half zephyr]

The status effects in this game are: Ares>Doom, Dio>Hangover, Aphy>Weak/Charm, Demeter>Chill, Artie>t2b marked, Athena>t2b exposed, Poseidon>t2b rupture, Zeus>t2b Jolted

[rocky patrol]

I thought it would be Olympian favor because 40% higher chance of rare or higher is Pretty good but I guess not

[half zephyr]

No

Dark foresight is better cuz it gives higher chance of golden laurel rooms

You’ll have a higher chance for boons, hammer & poms to appear

So more godly powers woo

[rocky patrol]

Man I had the vial of blood equipped so I can get a ares item but it’s the first time I didn’t get one for my first boon

I think it was scripted though

Because it’s the Poseidon huge catch

[half zephyr]

Ye

[narrow hemlock]

yeah that one is scripted.

[half zephyr]

Means you got the fishing rod

[rocky patrol]

I’ve had the rod for awhile

[half zephyr]

And smth

[narrow hemlock]

you should still have the arrow under the keepsake indicating that the effect hasnt been used yet

[half zephyr]

Something w fish

Sorry, making dinner

Typing in bursts

[rapid agate]

aspect of chiron is legitimately broken

it's so good

i'm gonna see at higher heat levels but for now extreme measures meg and lernie can't compare

[rocky patrol]

I have a good run going right now like a got a pretty good duo boon

[oblique sun]

hey um

i don't know exactly where i'm supposed to report this but

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/459790522706558976/820401619602374746/IMG_20210314_000301.jpg

bouldy and sisyphus turn into a lake of void when they're in the discord rich presence, i guess?

[restive cave]

is there a mod or something that could let me skip the zagreus death scene after a successful run

[half zephyr]

Maybe they’re camera shy

[olive pasture]

This game needs to fix Elysium

The mini boss fights are harder than the actual bosses lol

[cerulean ferry]

You get used to it after a while

[rapid agate]

no because it's sad ;-;

[olive pasture]

That doesn't make it better though

[rapid agate]

asterius is quite literally half the boss

[olive pasture]

I mean the enemies

Not Bull and Theseus

[rapid agate]

also pink ball of pain is easier but it's still a lot more awful

[olive pasture]

Like Primal Aspids from Hollow Knight

[rapid agate]

yes

exactly

[olive pasture]

It's the fact the bosses have a structure to them that makes them fun

[narrow hemlock]

they're dps checks. if you have a good build going the mini bosses are mostly a non-issue

[olive pasture]

Most of the mobs only purpose is to constantly attack you without any actual thinking

[rocky patrol]

Boss time

[rapid agate]

which one

[olive pasture]

I had a level 6 Divine Strike with a level 4 Doom or something like that

[rocky patrol]

I could win another run

[olive pasture]

Maybe I should spend more time gathering resources in the lower dungeons so I can melt the higher ones

[rocky patrol]

Got to phase two with a majority of my health left and I still have my revive

[restive cave]

actually i dont mind the death scene i just really want to find a way to skip the narrator line that comes before it, i dont care what he has to say and sometimes its really long :p

i cant tab out and do something else while its happening either because it just pauses

[rocky patrol]

I lost

I was close though

[hardy kernel]

What is the best weapon to grind resources with?

[rapid agate]

the one with dark

thingo

[hardy kernel]

oh ok

[charred anchor]

zag bow is so bad

like the other aspects are decent but i cant stand zag bow personally

[restive cave]

what aspect of hera build would be stronger than dio cast, with scint feast and ice wine?

is that the best or is there something else i could do

[charred anchor]

i like aphrodite cast on hera

theres a lot of upgrades u can get like empty inside and sweet surrender

[rocky patrol]

I’m gonna finish this run then I need to stop playing hades for today

[rocky patrol]

Two runs in a row I get to hades let’s see if I can beat him this time though

I won my second run

I finally won another one

[high island]

Congratulations!

[rocky patrol]

Now I move onto spear

Then to gauntlets then to gun

[opal oar]

is aspect of lucifer extremely annoying or is it the aim assist?

[rocky patrol]

And then bow somewhere in there

[warped iron]

mfw i beat em4 first time

😔

[restive cave]

kms

he was one hit away

||on p3||

i choked :'[

[quiet mortar]

I just beat hades using poseidon dash boons (+greatest reflex) only

[rocky patrol]

I’m think I’ve gotten my best crit run yet

[lost wolf]

Can hangover damage crit?

[rocky patrol]

I almost won two runs in a row

[sudden patrol]

i just spent like an hour getting all the blood to get aspect of rama to max, this better be worth it

[rocky patrol]

I could’ve gotten a win streak of two but I choked it

[winter harbor]

you'll get there

[rocky patrol]

That would’ve been so good because I don’t like using the spear

[sudden patrol]

how do I make this deal good damage? it seems like crap so far

like a worse aspect of chiron

[rocky patrol]

I need to save up my nectar so I can give one to each god and get the keep sake

[winter harbor]

focus on the attack, it hits hard

use the special to spread status effects like hangover/lightning/doom

[sudden patrol]

only deals around 60-100 damage

seems like a very mediocre chiron tbh

[carmine ravine]

Lol wat

[winter harbor]

ideally you get either twin or triple shot

[carmine ravine]

How bad is your build

[sudden patrol]

I'm in tartarus a

and just cleared the miniboss

[carmine ravine]

Use special to spread the mark and use poweeshot

[sudden patrol]

I have doom on my main and hangover on my special

I'm gonna give up on this run and switch to aphro on my main

[carmine ravine]

Dontnuse doom

[sudden patrol]

k

I'll switch it to aphro

but still

Apparently it can one shot a lot of stuff

but from what I've seen, isn't it best for hordes?

[carmine ravine]

The powershot is enuf to one shot, better with hordws since unonly need to focus on one big guy

Need to learn to spread your mark first tho

[sudden patrol]

but at that point, is it any better than chiron? since chiron's special with arte or aphro also hits like a truck

cause rama is mainly for it's special, no?

[winter harbor]

Rama is better at aoe

But it has high single target too

[sudden patrol]

but not as good as chiron?

[carmine ravine]

Kinda better but sure

[sudden patrol]

how so?

cause if you get a good build on chiron volleys can do upwards of 500 damage

and even more if ur really lucky

[carmine ravine]

You can do 1k+ with single powershot on rama

[sudden patrol]

how?

do you just need lots of percent up?

[carmine ravine]

Aphro crit twin shot etc

[sudden patrol]

I guess

I'll give it a shot

do i take explosive shot or twin shot

[winter harbor]

twins

Explosive just makes rama charge so slow

[rocky patrol]

What hammer upgrades for the bow are good

[olive pasture]

=

[rocky patrol]

I like sniper because that with crits can do big damage

Also I’m confused about something is there an end to the stuff with Orpheus and that other tree person like do you get something out of it if you “pull some strings”

Should I get triple shot or perfect shot

They both seem good

But I dunno which would work better

They also both help fill a prophecy

I chose triple shot and I regret it

[carmine ravine]

Wats triple shot again

[rocky patrol]

It’s shooting three shots in n the bow

[sudden patrol]

im using rama, do I take point blank shot or chain shot

[desert meadow]

Point blank would make it basically a melee weapon

So go chain shot if you don’t want that

[sudden patrol]

Ok I chose chain shot

[copper dagger]

Hey, I already made a suggestion thread about this on the steam forums, but just to check I'm not being dense: Once you've invested titan blood to upgrade a weapon aspect, there's no way to use the lower level versions again, right? Short of starting over?

[half zephyr]

Nope

[copper dagger]

RIP. I wanted to go back to level 1 Hera aspect.

[winter harbor]

I think you could cheese it by giving up on a run after you've spent titan blood, but that's about it

[copper dagger]

I want back to my room so it's saved I think?

[desert meadow]

If you spent the blood and then started an escape without leaving, it won’t save that you spent it.

[copper dagger]

I just started the game up again and the blood is still spent

[runic parrot]

that rly should be a feature

oh unless you mean refunding it

yeah once you go back to your room, the game autosaves

[winter harbor]

It has to be giving up, not dying

[copper dagger]

Started a run and gave up, still spent

I haven't died.

I just went back into Zag's room to check the mirror after upgrading the bow and that saved it.

I don't want it refunded, I just want the option to use the level 1 version.

[winter harbor]

Welp, I guess that's it, no refunds

[copper dagger]

RIP my Stygian Soul Hera status build, then.

[winter zinc]

i can clear 10+ heat with most weapons

but with gauntlets i cant even do 5 heat

are there any general gauntlet play strategies that might help me?

[winter harbor]

merciful end is really good on fists

[copper dagger]

My favourite gauntlet build is Talos aspect with Aphrodite dash, Ares special and Dionysus attack. Then again, I'm mad for status synergies in general, but having a single big hit grouping tool and then dash-attacking with quick attacks to stuck up hangover and to activate ruthless reflex works well with the playstyle.

[runic parrot]

ares generally does the most dps on attack

if you can grab athena's special, you could gun for a merciful end build

which is the most powerful fist synergy

[rocky patrol]

I got to the hades battle for the 4 time or 3rd time in a row

[carmine ravine]

You should try talos with full poseidon build

[carmine ravine]

Only for ME iirc, most of the time just take zeus iirc

[cold surge]

So it turns out the fish I'm missing is the common Chaos fish. Time to deliberately miss Perfect Catches

And hope a fish appears at all when I see Chaos

[sudden patrol]

I take back every bad thing ive ever said about rama

holy hell this this is insane

[brisk trail]

so true

mm ram

[sudden patrol]

chiron is still more fun to use tho

[carmine ravine]

You got lucky with the hammers still

[sudden patrol]

also seeing the arrows fly on chiron is amazing

[brisk trail]

(Real) done cheadle can i have ur hand in marriage i loved u in uhh

[sudden patrol]

power shot with it is absurd

[brisk trail]

iron man

[sudden patrol]

I am not don cheadle

I am done chealdel

[brisk trail]

what did i say

[sudden patrol]

cheadle

[brisk trail]

cheeto

[sudden patrol]

not cheadel

[brisk trail]

oh

[sudden patrol]

hahaha

what

[rocky patrol]

Should I use explosive shot point blank shot or perfect shot

[copper dagger]

What's the synergy there? I group them and push them away and then what? Seastorm?

[carmine ravine]

Poseidon boons all focused on you pushing them to walls and it have ripple effects

[grand crystal]

point blank is very good

[copper dagger]

Right? But If I'm using Talos I'm pulling them towards me, which is counter productive if I want to knock them into walls?

[grand crystal]

the 2nd part of the special throws them back out

[carmine ravine]

Its like ragdolling thw enemies

[grand crystal]

so it works fine :/

i just dont like talos much

[copper dagger]

Wouldn't literally any other fist aspect be better for wall pushing though? :p

[carmine ravine]

No

Its counter productive for fists

Only talos is fit for it

[runic parrot]

you want to actively be close to your enemies with fists

[sudden patrol]

talos is the best fists aspect imo

[runic parrot]

knocking them away defeats the whole purpose

[sudden patrol]

it's obv better than zag and the others arent very useful

plus gilgamesh isn't great cause I mainly go for special

[runic parrot]

i would argue demeter is better in some instances but the 50% boost is pretty good

[inland spade]

just bought out a charon well 3 times at once for fun

[sudden patrol]

I just like the 20 damage, plus the magnet is useful. If you can get quake cutter in room 1 you can deal like, 160 base damage at the start

honestly quake cutter is OP

[inland spade]

truuue

[rocky patrol]

I already took explosive shot

[sudden patrol]

explosive shot is...mediocre imo

[rocky patrol]

Yea it’s not great it sounded cool

I’m gonna see if I can get the money to buy the anvil and change my hammer upgrades

[winter zinc]

ty!

[rocky patrol]

What happens if you get sniper shot then an ability that reduces the range on your bow

[native bone]

Can someone explain hermes rush delivery boon to me? I don’t understand what it does

[rocky patrol]

I’ve never used the anvil but it seems like a good idea right now

[carmine ravine]

Move speed buff = dmg buff

[tribal badger]

finished my first hades run let's goooooooooo

[rocky patrol]

Good job

[runic parrot]

hazard eris crits are scary

1500! damage

[carmine ravine]

I think i got 3k once, im not sure how

But i remember that fondly

[runic parrot]

yeah i just got a 2.5k

with a chaos + charon well boost

[carmine ravine]

Who need summons when u have it then

[rocky patrol]

I don’t think I got super lucky with the anvil but it’ll have to do

[carmine ravine]

Its a risk

[rocky patrol]

I didn’t have anything good but joe it’s slightly better I guess

[runic parrot]

getting those i frames is scary

im pretty rusty at timing my dashes

[rocky patrol]

I had the explosive shots and they weren’t great now I have ricochet and armor pierce which is debatably worse or better

[rocky patrol]

I just realized I would’ve unlocked the final part of the mirror earlier if I remembered I can sell the gems for keys

Should I use fated persuasion or fated authority

[unborn ermine]

The one which lets you reroll boon options

[karmic trellis]

persuasion

[rocky patrol]

Ok

What about the other of the final two ones I can’t remember it’s name

I made it to hades again

[wise sparrow]

kill him

[karmic trellis]

rip him apart

[rocky patrol]

This is like my 4-5 attempt at the bow

[wise sparrow]

nice

i love the bow

[charred anchor]

||HOW DO I GET DUSA BACK||

[wise sparrow]

sadge

[charred anchor]

?

[rocky patrol]

What did you do to dusa

[charred anchor]

||nyx fired her||

[rocky patrol]

Oh no

I think I have to stop playing the game so that doesn’t happen I don’t want that to happen

[carmine ravine]

It gets resolved after tho just go with it

[rocky patrol]

Oh ok good

I fail the fight against hades

Also should I use gods legacy or gods pride

I also got my first companion

[hollow hawk]

Depends on what you're going for with your build

[eager kindle]

I used a save editor to get a bunch of darkness in order to max out resources director. Kinda feel weird about it, but it's just so damn hard to farm darkness lmao

[rocky patrol]

Did you mean to reply to the gods legacy thing if so I mean like in general which is better

[hollow hawk]

yeah I meant the god's legacy thing

Again, there's no in general

depends on whether or not you want a duo for the build

Some people run god's pride saying that common boons suck, some people run god's legacy saying that duos are amazing

It's preference

[wind mantle]

whats the average attempts for first escape?

[hollow hawk]

probably around 35-45

[wind mantle]

Nice!

[hardy thistle]

tfw i did it with 10ish

[hardy thistle]

I personally run god's legacy. Common boons arent that big of a drawback most of the time (Plus you can fix them with Rare Crop) and there are so many absolutely god tier duos

[icy sorrel]

Hey does anyone here know how to pull up boon requirements on the controller?

Like I run into a boon, i activate it, I hit select to see my current boons

but i've seen people pull up the encyclopedia

[hardy thistle]

you need to go into the codex

and select to view it on each olympian

[icy sorrel]

how do you do it during a run?

sorry i know its a noobie question

[hardy thistle]

no idea, i dont use a controller

check your settings

[icy sorrel]

Hmm.. do you know the keyboard command for it? I play on PC with controller

[hardy thistle]

I assume your input bindings should be all there

keyboard command is C

and then B to see the boon list of any olympian you're viewing

[icy sorrel]

that works = )

ty ty

[hardy thistle]

n p

[eager kindle]

It's L1 or left bumper on the controller

[pliant hull]

"Keyboard command"

not "Button on the controller"

Also, it was already answered

[timid vine]

has anyone ever used a pool of purging

[wise sparrow]

yes

[pliant hull]

It's very useful.

Sometimes it's free 400 gold if you have, say, Poseidon's legendary

[timid vine]

yes but >fish

[pliant hull]

or some other similar boon that doesn't actually help

[timid vine]

fish good

[pliant hull]

Does >fish matter when you've A., got all the unlocks or B., are heading into Styx?

Spoilers

no

[timid vine]

id buy the fish boon for 500 coines

[pliant hull]

How far in are you

[timid vine]

dont all resource director ranks take like a year of grinding or something

surely fish would help

[pliant hull]

Who cares about resource director; most you get from fish is gems and keys sometimes

You need way more darkness.

there's easier ways to get all that

it's called playing the game

[timid vine]

if you get a fish on the surface they drop good things

[pliant hull]

And if you get to the surface, you're already getting good things

[timid vine]

more

[pliant hull]

you can get 400 darkness and multiple keys in one run.

as well as a bunch of gems to buy more keys

20% more fishing chances only in rooms that could spawn a fish isn't going to help you that much more

[timid vine]

it actually does more than that

[pliant hull]

Just play the game normally and sell that for coins.

[timid vine]

as in it removes fish spawning encounter cooldown

[pliant hull]

Fish Spawn Chance: +20%
This boon also removes the Chambers Since Last Fishing Point spawn requirement.

[runic parrot]

with my terrible luck the fish leg doesnt do much

i once got it in tartarus and only got 2 fish in the run

[timid vine]

that last part yes

[pliant hull]

Whoooooo caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaares about fishing in a game not focused around fishing

[timid vine]

it basically increases the amount of fish you get in a run atleast threefold

[pliant hull]

it's nice when you get them, but it's not a huge amount more.

Oh no, my number of fishing chances went from 2 to 6.

And I lose my first boon in my run

Thankfully you only get this once.

[runic parrot]

then just dont get it lol

it's alright if you dont like fishing

[timid vine]

you get it later too lol

[runic parrot]

no one's really forcing you to

[timid vine]

not just that one scripted place

[pliant hull]

It's not thata I don't like fishing. It's a numbers game.

As in "It doesn't make a difference"

[runic parrot]

okay then

[pliant hull]

You can get it more?

Ugh

[runic parrot]

going back to your question, i only use purging pools when i'm doing UC anyway lol

[pliant hull]

Just give me hammers.

[runic parrot]

any and all boons are valuable to me

unless i'm gunning for a very specific build and some other god managed to get in the slot first

[pliant hull]

Purging pools are great when you have a boon that actively doesn't get used, or you're doing a boonless run

[hollow hawk]

i sell boons often too, even when im not using UC

[timid vine]

purging boons doesnt actually remove them from your olympus god selection lock

[hollow hawk]

just if i need coin or that boon is going to trigger a duo that i dont want

[pliant hull]

I probably sell 1-2 boons a run

[runic parrot]

i know. just the chances of a replacement boon is lower.

[hollow hawk]

so for example if i have arty call and athena special, and i want merciful end with ares attack, i will sell arty call to disable deadly reversal

[timid vine]

oooh that

man the replacements sure do show up at the worst time possible

[runic parrot]

i actively remove hermes boons sometimes, mostly greatest reflex

[hollow hawk]

because the way you get duo boons, it checks how many duo boons you have enabled and then gives you one or two of them

[hollow hawk]

purging greatest reflex?

why

[runic parrot]

sucks for my playstyle

[pliant hull]

^

[runic parrot]

doesnt gel with me

[pliant hull]

It's so goooooood

[hollow hawk]

too many dashes is hard to control

but when you get it down

its so much more dmg

and safety

[timid vine]

oh btw if you purge a hermes can you roll another hermes

[runic parrot]

i'm running on a keyboard so it kinda sucks when i have 6 dashes

[pliant hull]

It's not that it's hard to control

[runic parrot]

i dont think so

[pliant hull]

Just don't use the button

[timid vine]

damn

[runic parrot]

ok

guess i'll just forget every finger reflex i do

[pliant hull]

You can get multiple hermes in a run anyway

[hollow hawk]

2

[timid vine]

i thought i could sell a common rarity hermes for a chance at an epic reflex

[hollow hawk]

3 if you buy hermes at shop

[pliant hull]

That's called learning

[hollow hawk]

oh you can

[runic parrot]

sure!

[hollow hawk]

if you havent gotten two hermes already

[pliant hull]

and practice

[hollow hawk]

or wanna buy one at the shop

lol isaac its fine

[pliant hull]

XD

[hollow hawk]

let elec be

[runic parrot]

again you can't really force me to like it

cos like i said i dont gel with it too much

[hollow hawk]

each to their own

[pliant hull]

I'm not mad. And I don't want to provoke

[runic parrot]

dw i know its a really good boon

[brazen lagoon]

people have different playstyles and preferences

cant do much about it

[hollow hawk]

what???

no way

[pliant hull]

BUT THEY GOTTA LEARN HOW TO

[runic parrot]

that's impossible

[pliant hull]

GIT

[hollow hawk]

someone doesnt play exactly like me? they must be cancelled

[pliant hull]

GUD

[hollow hawk]

immediately

[pliant hull]

Exactly

[hollow hawk]

how dare you not play hades the superior way

[runic parrot]

with a ddr pad

[hollow hawk]

LMAO

[timid vine]

imagine not trying to go for stubborn roots every run, how awfully suboptimal

[pliant hull]

Gimme the DDR Hades machine

[hollow hawk]

stubborn roots worst duo in the game

shut up

[brazen lagoon]

how dare you not play the game how I want you to play!!!! 😠

[hollow hawk]

^

[timid vine]

it was a joke

[hollow hawk]

i am right

you are wrong

[hollow hawk]

ik, i was joking too

[brazen lagoon]

always

[timid vine]

oh lol

whatev

[brazen lagoon]

i am never wrong you are just not right

[hollow hawk]

lol

[runic parrot]

what circumstances allow for a 3rd hermes boon again

[brazen lagoon]

everyone should play how i play if you dont you are dumb and cring

[runic parrot]

is it just luck for him to show up in styx

[brazen lagoon]

probably yeah

[hollow hawk]

styx

yes

[pliant hull]

I love playing dumb builds as much as the next guy. However, play the dumb build with the best odds of winning so you're not disappointed when you lose.

[brazen lagoon]

if im playing a dumb build im not expecting to win anyways

[hollow hawk]

cursed slash most op sword hammer 😳

[brazen lagoon]

playing it for le hahas

[brazen lagoon]

so true

[pliant hull]

Cursed slash best slash

[brazen lagoon]

hoarding slash close 2nd

[hollow hawk]

common level guan yu best weapon aspect by a huge margin 😳

[brazen lagoon]

zag sword best sword 😳

[brisk trail]

I might do more runs

[vapid robin]

do y’all ever have a god awful build and you step into the final battle like ahaha...i’m in danger

[brisk trail]

The alienware i bought the psu was messed up T T

[vapid robin]

F

[brisk trail]

I just am happy i reunited orpheus and eruydice

Recently

Its hard to get enough nectars for all the gods tho i always only have like 1 or 2 so each run i barely get hearts up

[vapid robin]

do u have rod of fishing

any fish u catch in elysium will give u nectar as a reward

that helped me a lot

[cerulean ferry]

^ and if you have keys you can trade those with the broker

[turbid owl]

Which weapon is best to get first? I have 6 titan blood right now, haven't beaten the Hades yet.

[brisk trail]

Yee i fish ill remember that

[vapid robin]

meeeh it doesn’t rly matter imo

get them as you’re able to unlock them

[wise sparrow]

hestia rail

[brisk trail]

I thought fish rewards were random

[wise sparrow]

the easiest and safest weapon

[vapid robin]

nope, each area has its own reward

u can also fish in chaos too

apparently

[cerulean ferry]

Yeah but it's really rare

[brisk trail]

Switch eshop is so good

Okay im really gonna play hades try to get max hearts with everyone

Yeah it sucks a lot of the chaos fish spots i missed cause i wont notice til i leave

And its dumb cause theres a noise if u can fish

It go DING

[timid vine]

i missed like 4 troves and only noticed/remembered them during the "walking out the door" animation

they blend way too well into the scenery

especially in tartarus

[vapid robin]

lol troves

i never do them

[latent echo]

It took over 100 runs, but I finally got the Hades legendary boon. Just one prophecy left, now.

Now I gotta start planning around maxing out all the house contractor stuff, and the Resource Director... is there anything else I'm supposed to work on maxing out? I'm trying to remember what all there is to complete.

[vapid robin]

there’s the epilogue of the story

and all of the house contractor stuff

and there’s || badges || you can unlock pretty late game by going into || hades’ quarters || and it || takes some resources from you for each badge||

[latent echo]

Aye, just making sure I'm remembering everything.

Epilogue, Bonds, Keepsakes, Companions, Codex, Mirror, House Contractor, Music Stand, Resource Director... I keep feeling as though I'm forgetting something.

[vapid robin]

that sounds right to me

tbh i don’t even have all the mirror talents maxed out bc i have figured out which ones i like to use lol

so i respeced to use all that extra darkness elsewhere

[latent echo]

Yeah, I'll need to max out the Mirror eventually... That and the Resource director are daunting tasks.

So much Dankness.

[pliant hull]

Wha do these do, exactly

[eager kindle]

I mean he stated that he is playing with a controller so I wanted to mention it as well.

[brazen lagoon]

not much

just cosmetics

[vapid robin]

nothing they’re simply cosmetic

[pliant hull]

[vapid robin]

if u look at some of the victory screens in #h1-victory-boasting there are some that || have titles in the bottom left corner || that’s what that is pretty much

[pliant hull]

Goddit

[latent echo]

So, out of morbid curiosity, what's the highest damage single attack that people know about in this game? I mean after all modifiers and such.

Has anyone done 10k+?

[pliant hull]

I doubt that high

I assume it's a hestia shot, tho

[latent echo]

I did see a streamer land a 7864 hit.

With Arthur, at any rate.

[pliant hull]

Hmm.

Should I try and run the theoretical numbers

[eager kindle]

I recently got 4.3k with arthur, but without heart rend

[pliant hull]

Arthur seems liket he second one

[latent echo]

I might be able to run back the vod and check what all boons he got and exact numbers.

[eager kindle]

not sure how high that would be w/ heart rend

can't math to save my life

[pliant hull]

K41ZERED
11 months ago
So you want total? Before they nerfed rocket rail. I had 2 chaos specials with art special, clean kill and heart rend plus sweet surrender and I did like 11.5k damage in one burst

Not one shot, but it's a start.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/fsyt91/highest_damage_numbers_reached/

[latent echo]

Whew lad.

[pliant hull]

How many chaos orbs can you expect in one run

max

[latent echo]

Well, I tend to get 2 if I'm lucky naturally, but I can force them with Light of Ixion in the Wells of Charon. I've gotten up to 4 in one run.

But 5 shouldn't be impossible.

[pliant hull]

Chaos does cut into other boons

[topaz crow]

Got to the end boss today

Didn’t go great

[pliant hull]

just kill him

[manic moat]

just don't die

[pliant hull]

"Oh, it's a shame that you died again! Have you thought about dodging their attacks?"

[sudden patrol]

that's weird

I was in styx and I found the satry sack and got a centaur heart

I had common life affirmation which would give me +30 but I got 65 bonus health instead of like 40

[pliant hull]

You double check your runes?

[sudden patrol]

just did

only have life affirmation

[brazen lagoon]

did you go through the gate with a skull

[sudden patrol]

oh

yeah I did

that's it

[brazen lagoon]

boss rooms have better rewards

centaur hearts give double the health

[sudden patrol]

Welp, I'm gonna go take on hades

I have Rama, with twin shot and perfect shot with athena (much to my dismay) on attack with +100

I've only got 2 DDs tho which is scart

scary

[brazen lagoon]

you'll be fine

[pliant hull]

Just don't get hit :6head:

[sudden patrol]

you underestimate my ability to suck at the game

fawk im 14 obol away from another pom

[pliant hull]

happens

[half zephyr]

Rip

[sudden patrol]

but i dont wanna risk taking more damage

[pliant hull]

Do it

DO IT

[sudden patrol]

Nah

[pliant hull]

You'll be fine

[half zephyr]

Good luck against dad

[sudden patrol]

It'll prob be on the fountain boon for dio or something

don't you love getting side hustle or something in styx

also rare crop is surprisingly good

[half zephyr]

It is when it doesn’t choose the wrong boons..

[sudden patrol]

yeah

[half zephyr]

I had 4 boons!

[sudden patrol]

if it gets your main boon then it's insane

[half zephyr]

1 was good rarity

Rest were basic

I got basic rare crop & OFC IT CHOSE MY 1 GOOD BOON

[pliant hull]

rare crop is real good

[sudden patrol]

OMGGGG!!!!! I JUST BEAT THE HARDEST BOSS IN THE GMAE!!! CREBERUS WAS SO DIFFUCULT!!!1 😎 😎 😎 😎

[latent echo]

I'm astonished there isn't a 4Head Hypnos emote.

[pliant hull]

just be a luck sack

[latent echo]

Hypnos embodies the 4Head.

[pliant hull]

Go make it

[half zephyr]

So then I only had basic boons until it went up

[sudden patrol]

i spent like so long getting ambrosia and getting than to spawn

and then I accidentally misclicked and turned him down

kill me now

that happened before this run and I wanna die

anyways

time to go kill god

[pliant hull]

Hades said the same exact thing

[sudden patrol]

is it just me or is it objectively better to wait a tiny bit when catching fish in the surface

since the bass is like the sturgeon since ambrosia and blood are equal

but you can have a choice with the bass

as opposed to the lack of choice with the sturgeon

[eager kindle]

you'll also have the change to get a trout if you don't get a perfect catch in the surface

[turbid owl]

Are there any benefits if i maximize my friendship with any of the gods that grant boons?

[pliant hull]

Kinda. You get story stuff.

Does the game become a bit easier? Not really

[turbid owl]

Oh okay, I was hoping that I could boost the chances of getting higher rarity boons from them

[pliant hull]

You should give nectar to all the gods at least once

then use the items you get to max out stars

[turbid owl]

Got it, also what is the best weapon that I should max out first to make my life easier in Hades? I haven't beaten the Hades yet, got 6 titan blood from the first bosses.

[manic moat]

whichever one you actually like playing

shield is good for beginners coz of the blocking

[turbid owl]

Okay, thank you

[pliant hull]

I seriously have never tried a bull rush tactic

[manic moat]

I spent pretty much the first half of my hades playing just using chaos shield so yea

[weak spruce]

I think I've reached my capacity for this game

max. I can do is a 32 heat chiron run and even with that I struggle

oh well not everyone can be great at it

[pliant hull]

Not a problem with that

Roguelikes are hard

And that's not just me blowin smoke. Hades is a haaaaaaaaaaaaard game

[weak spruce]

I can breeze through souls games like it's nothing but high heat in this game is something else

[manic moat]

man I am scared even trying 32 heat

I tried it once and failed epicly

[weak spruce]

plus

there is the rng factor

[weak spruce]

use chiron and start with artemis attack, it's doable

but that's all though

I just tried it with beowulf and died to lernie

sad

and those people who reach styx in 10 minutes with 50 heat like holy

iunno

respekt

[manic moat]

I don't know

I don't really do well with chiron that much

[pliant hull]

Some people have thousands of hours in the game

[manic moat]

I should try using shield again, haven't done it in so lon

maybe it's defensive aspect would help me survive, even if the dps doesn't match up

[weak spruce]

I have around 100, maybe that's just too low to be good but I am impatient lol

[manic moat]

I've done beo shield several times but that's hardly a shield now is ut

[weak spruce]

well with 32 heat most luck I had with are

eris, chaos shield and chiron

and I beat it only with chiron

[manic moat]

yea I'll try with eris at some point

and chaos shield with zeus on special

man chaos shield actually sucks tho neither is it fast hitting nor is it big damage numbers

[weak spruce]

well what I did was special ares on chaos aspect

guess what

I ran out of time before hades

[manic moat]

F

[weak spruce]

it's such a safe run

takes 4ever

tho

[pliant hull]

Agreed

[weak spruce]

well at least I got to see the last statue

(which was nth special)

[broken cradle]

what is the deal with these stone tables that seem to appear in a lot if not every room?

they always look the same and have these green twigs

i would share a screenshot of what i mean but for some reason i cant post a picture here

[surreal condor]

I just cleared four out of the five Styx chambers and I still can't find the sayter sack, the only chamber that's left is an encounter chamber

By encounter I mean mini boss

I don't think the sacks spawn in mini boss Chambers, for they?

I got the sack on the last chamber in the entirety of Styx

Screw this place

[oblique sun]

they can

just, no miniboss, but you still get the better reward

[spice hearth]

Iirc it’s a higher chance

[surreal condor]

i know, just found out

[spice hearth]

The usual strat is to do all the minibosses first

[surreal condor]

i have the worst luck

[spice hearth]

To increase the chances of a 2 sack

[oblique sun]

i'm not sure if it's a higher chance but i myself have always had better chance with them whilst my friend always had better chance with none-elite passages so idk

[broken cradle]

i always full clear bc i want all the boons 😂

[brazen lagoon]

All luck in the end

[oblique sun]

i do all minibosses first anyways because i can clear minibosses way faster than normal encounters

[brazen lagoon]

Just depends if you're lucky or not

[oblique sun]

yeah it's all just rng i guess

[broken cradle]

got me killed when i got there the first time since the poison got me on the last chamber

bc i couldnt click the stupid well

[oblique sun]

ngl i kinda find it dumb that there's no obvious sign that poison can be cured with water

i died in my first game because of it and my friend had to tell me

i thought it's something like hangover, it's just gonna go away after some time

[broken cradle]

yeah, i just got lucky that the first room didnt poison me and i tried the well and zag said sth about not being poisoned

[oblique sun]

heh

hey i noticed a "Hades Monthly Challenge" in #bot-commands, what's that about?

[brazen lagoon]

Every month there's a challenge in #h1-builds-and-combat with a specific set of rules and aspects you have to use

You can submit your runs in the Google doc included

It's mostly just for fun

[oblique sun]

thanks for the directing

i am here for fun :p

[eager kindle]

I feel like I'm getting less and less boons as I go higher with heat.

[oblique sun]

i think that's just rng

[half zephyr]

Do you use Olympian favor or dark foresight?

[eager kindle]

Dark foresight always

[half zephyr]

Good

It’s probably just rng then

[oblique sun]

i use olympian favor because i like getting keys for rerolls

[hollow hawk]

or its amir using the backdoor to mess with you

[oblique sun]

god damn it amir

[half zephyr]

I get enough keys with dark foresight to aid me during my run

[eager kindle]

It's just that I'm not getting as many chambers compared to when I'm chilling in low heat lol

[wind mantle]

gods pride or gods legacy?

[half zephyr]

Duo/legend

[wind mantle]

got iy

[amber kraken]

okay so I managed to unlock aspect of Guan Yu. But like it looks kinda bad. All it does is make my health lower and making healing items heal me less. It looks like a handicap to me

[half zephyr]

It’s not that great at low lvl

[oblique sun]

spin attack heals every hit

[half zephyr]

But some love it

I hate it

[oblique sun]

i only ever use it at level 5

[half zephyr]

It just doesn’t work with me at all

[eager kindle]

I get God's pride because I prefer more epic boons. I get lucky most of the time to get my preferred duo/legendary

[oblique sun]

i frankly love it, but only if i get spin-related daedalus reforges

[eager kindle]

Sucks when I can't get it tho

[weak spruce]

make sure it's lvl 5 before the attempt

[amber kraken]

I like aspect of Hades more. Its like Im beating my dad with his own spear

[oblique sun]

and also, hidden aspects have different movesets

i assume you already figured it out?

[half zephyr]

Ye, I just usually get a ton of epic boons without it
So I prefer extra shot at duo/legend

[hollow hawk]

@amber kraken guan yu is a bit advanced to use, yeah

[half zephyr]

The only time I don’t get good boon rarity is when I’m using bow

[hollow hawk]

just max level it, then use it

[half zephyr]

I have terrible bow rng

[brazen lagoon]

You've said this a lot shadow

[half zephyr]

Yes, new person here now

[brazen lagoon]

Probably more times than you've gotten good bow rng

[half zephyr]

[oblique sun]

honestly if i ever want duo/legendary i just go for Chaos' higher rarity boon, apparently it gives +10% chance for those on any rarity of the boon

[half zephyr]

True since it’s never happened

[brazen lagoon]

It'll happen eventually

[eager kindle]

Wait, really?

[half zephyr]

I don’t get that offered often

[brazen lagoon]

And it'll be glorious when it does

[hollow hawk]

no, it gives whatever % on rare or better

and then flat 10% on duo/legendary

[oblique sun]

yeah

[hollow hawk]

oh wait, nvm thats what you said

i reread

mb

[oblique sun]

it's fine, happens

[hollow hawk]

i thought you meant 10% on rare and epic too

[eager kindle]

Today I learned lmao. I always skip that chaos boon

[oblique sun]

i meant that it gives +10% duo/leg on any rarity of the favor boon

[half zephyr]

I just get offered extra money & rewards all the time

With some odd ones with attack/special/dash-strike % bonuses

[oblique sun]

yeah like i always take special damage with chiron, or attack damage with like fists or something

[eager kindle]

This needs to be in the boon's description lmao. Never knew

[half zephyr]

Dash-strike

I rarely use attack, but I dash strike all the time

[oblique sun]

yeah i just looked into wiki to find that out and be pleasantly surprised

[half zephyr]

Even more rare for me to use special

[oblique sun]

oh yeah i always meant to ask

[half zephyr]

The wiki is outdated

[oblique sun]

attack damage boosts don't affect dash-strike? none of them do?

[brazen lagoon]

Attack boosts do affect dash strike iirc

[hollow hawk]

yeah, they do

dash strike boons however, dont affect attack

[oblique sun]

yeah that would make sense

[half zephyr]

I just like getting dash strike bonus since the % number is usually higher for me on those from chaos

[oblique sun]

i was just curious about the other way around, thanks

[half zephyr]

And since I always dash strike it’s never a problem for me

[oblique sun]

okay but like
how about getting both

i personally use both attack and dash strike

a mix of both

[half zephyr]

Well duh that’s what the god boons are for

Aphrodite attack hello

[eager kindle]

does arctic blast only damage enemies surrounding the one that triggered it? Or does it also damage the source of arctic blast?

[oblique sun]

for concentrated knuckle, and +30% attack speed from hermes

[half zephyr]

Such a great attack

[oblique sun]

also damages source iirc

that's why it's great with fast attacking things

at least, i think, not sure

[half zephyr]

I just can’t be bothered

[oblique sun]

i was talking about both dash strike and attack damage% from chaos

[half zephyr]

If I stand still for too long I get hit

[oblique sun]

wouldn't you be forced given the downtime for dashes?

[brazen lagoon]

I just spam buttons and hope for the best

[oblique sun]

yeah basically

lmao

[half zephyr]

I never even notice a downtime

[oblique sun]

i spam dash and get rewarded for standing still thanks to concentrated knuckle i guess

i also often just do dodge% runs with fists

zag aspect, plume and hermes

[half zephyr]

Yeye dodge run

My fave fist

Unless I do 10 heat then it wasn’t so fun cuz I had jury summons & then got a boon from chaos with the curse being that even more enemies spawned!

4 rooms lost

So sad

Still won in the end but such a sad dodge run

[oblique sun]

so far i have reached heat 17 beaten with this dodge% strat

i keep going up in increments of one, not skipping any

[half zephyr]

I’m not a good gamer tho

[oblique sun]

that's okay, we each progress at our own pace

[half zephyr]

I struggle at low heats

[oblique sun]

so long that you're having fun!

[half zephyr]

I can’t even get past 3 with bow

[oblique sun]

use chiron, with like demeter on special or something

[brazen lagoon]

More you play better you'll get

Although I am very rusty now

[oblique sun]

i also have an advantage of 10 free heat with em4

[half zephyr]

I don’t like Chiron

[oblique sun]

you don't like it as in you just don't find the concept fun or you're not good with it so it's not fun?

[half zephyr]

I don’t like having to use special XD

It’s clunky for my hands

[oblique sun]

i never use special on literally any other weapon other than this :P

actually

[half zephyr]

Even if I swapped special to A to make it easier to use

It just doesn’t feel natural

But better then X I suppose

[oblique sun]

oh, controller

[half zephyr]

Switch

[oblique sun]

i was typing a whole paragraph about recommended rebinds for keyboard

[half zephyr]

Not pc at all

[oblique sun]

well again, so long that you're having fun :P i never had a console before

[half zephyr]

Also the 2nd for bow in general

It’s never fun to run bow

I spent 3 days away from the game cuz I knew the bow was waiting for me >.>

[oblique sun]

pffft

i suppose i can see bow being harder to control without mouse + kb

[half zephyr]

I just don’t like that I can’t snipe properly

If I get a bow in any game all I wanna do is hide somewhere & snipe everyone

[oblique sun]

isn't there an, um, something to help you target enemies on controller?

loll

[half zephyr]

Aim assist

[oblique sun]

what i do with bow is

shoot

DASH DASH DASH DASH shoot DAHS DHASH

it's hard admittedly

[half zephyr]

It also doesn’t help that dash power shot doesn’t trigger for me

Ever

[oblique sun]

weird

hard to time?

[half zephyr]

I can’t even see the flash

It doesn’t appear

[oblique sun]

huh

[half zephyr]

I spent so long trying to figure wth I was supposed to do in that “tutorial” list with Skelly

Then later I find out in this chat there’s supposed to be a flash

I don’t even see it with regular power shot >.>

But there I can at least kinda memorize how long it takes to draw the bow

[oblique sun]

try audio cue? do you hear a certain sound when the arrow stops extending?

[half zephyr]

Nope

There’s just some things that don’t wanna work for me & in this game that thing is the bow

¯_(ツ)_/¯

C’est La Vie

[eager kindle]

Rama is fun tho

Arti on Attack, aphro on special. Slap heart rend on that and you get a better Arthur

With Twin shot or triple shot as well and you'll do CHONKY damage

[oblique sun]

i liked rama alot

especially since how it can kinda function as an extra boiling blood if applied to the same enemy lmao

[eager kindle]

Yeah. I used to always build Rama around the special

Then I watched Haelian one shot bosses with Artemis attack lmao

[half zephyr]

I failed at Rama too

My attack didn’t go above 600

[eager kindle]

Try crit rama

[half zephyr]

And I even had a nice build..
I just got bad rng hammers & bad rng rarity boons

Some people in this chat even went over the math cuz they couldn’t figure out why I only had 600 dmg with my build

But the math checked out

But like artiesimp said earlier - the day I get good bow rng is gonna be a glorious day

[brazen lagoon]

Unlucky

Yep

[weak spruce]

anyone like using gilga or lucifer ?

never seen ppl talking about them

are they like bad

[brazen lagoon]

Luci is fun

[half zephyr]

I’m sure some like them

[brazen lagoon]

Gilga is very ehhhhh

[half zephyr]

I’ve only completed 1 gilga run

And I only won cuz I didn’t treat it like gilga, but instead like normal fists

[weak spruce]

gilga seems to have nice damage potential

[half zephyr]

Barely using my special at all

[weak spruce]

oh wait I just realized

you take 50% more damage from enemies with maim

[half zephyr]

Haven’t unlocked luci yet - need to get the blood to get it to max before I try it

[half zephyr]

Yup, so you gotta be fast

[weak spruce]

luci is too basic

and too mass effect-y

[brazen lagoon]

But laser gun

[half zephyr]

My first gilga attempt I accidentally got both Theseus & Asterius with maim at the start

I was not prepared

Still won, but that run was bust after that

[weak spruce]

it'd be a bad idea to maim hades on a heat run then

welp that disadvantage kinda ruins the aspect then, must be why

[weak spruce]

people fighting with basic iron swords up there in greece

while there is an actual laser gun down there

[half zephyr]

Cuz it’s forbidden to reveal it to mortals

And the luci aspects is a future aspect

[brazen lagoon]

Imagine if guns were invented really early on tho

[weak spruce]

yea the gods would be mad

[brazen lagoon]

Most conflicts would be done in a flash

[half zephyr]

Poor ares

No time to enjoy it

[weak spruce]

"zeus, u know that laser gun zagreus has ? well ..."

[brazen lagoon]

Ares storming the battlefield with swords while he just gets 360 no scoped by a sniper 300m away

[weak spruce]

"I'm too old for this bs"

[half zephyr]

Though since luci aspect is a laser gun

I’m imagining that the fight in heaven was just a deadly laser tag battle

[weak spruce]

also the fists

belonged to demeter right ?

imagine that old lady

smashing in fists

[half zephyr]

Well she’s gotta be strong

Being goddess of harvest & agriculture

\0/ Farming

Gives strong arms that

[weak spruce]

except she's making life hell for farmers

cuz of her butthurt

oh nice the bot didn't say anything

I was sure it'd censor that

[half zephyr]

Her daughter was kidnapped

You’d be mad too

Kidnapped & basically sold off into marriage

[weak spruce]

yea but I wouldn't make their lives harder

they had nothing to do with it

poor mortals

[half zephyr]

They’re just mortals

She doesn’t care about them

They’re like ants

[weak spruce]

just for her or for all gods ?

[half zephyr]

All gods

Just playthings

[weak spruce]

damn ego gods

that's y zagreus is bae

[half zephyr]

He’s also a kid compared to them

[weak spruce]

yea kinda an edgy kiddo

but still, much nicer

[half zephyr]

He’s got time

Just wait

[weak spruce]

nah persephone gonna raise him well

gonna be a nice god

[drifting crest]

Demeter is the overprotective mom who raises hell on everyone when her daughter goes missing

[half zephyr]

Yup, basically

[sleek grail]

heylo

[oblique sun]

helo

[weak spruce]

bitter mom

[eager kindle]

Gilga is the most underwhelming hidden aspect

[sleek grail]

got the game recently, pretty fun stuff

[half zephyr]

I’ll still take gilga over gy

[weak spruce]

gy hits hard

[half zephyr]

I don’t want to lose my max hp

[sleek grail]

how do you check how many escape attempts you have made

[half zephyr]

It was awful doing that run

[half zephyr]

Admin chamber

[weak spruce]

you'll unlock a room eventually

[oblique sun]

scrying pool

from contractor

[high island]

@sleek grail hi! Be mindful of spoilers in this channel. There's #h1-for-new-players, which is free of spoilers.

[sleek grail]

alright

[weak spruce]

or that yea

[oblique sun]

on the "bedchambers" section

[half zephyr]

And you got the scrying pool

And when you start up you can see how many deaths you’ve had on the save file

[sleek grail]

yea i knew i was gonna get hit with a ton of spoilers coming into this discord

its fine

ah okay

[half zephyr]

Yes, but there is a spoiler free channel if you don’t want it

[eager kindle]

at least guan yu has that special. gilga isn't that much better than the other fists aspects

[oblique sun]

i like guan yu and never use his special

[weak spruce]

without gy's disadvantage it'd be too op

[half zephyr]

Maim was nice so long as I was fast

[weak spruce]

so

[oblique sun]

i just plop in quick spin with athena attack and hope for an artemis athena duo and go ham

[half zephyr]

I also have spear as my 2nd least favorite weapon so that probably doesn’t help

[oblique sun]

same tbh i rarely use spear

[eager kindle]

spear used to be my least favorite weapon

[oblique sun]

^

[eager kindle]

then I discovered cast builds with achilles lol

[half zephyr]

But GY was used once for the prophecy & I’ll never touch that aspect again

[oblique sun]

now it's a bit higher up on the list thanks to guan yu, not achliles

haha

[weak spruce]

arthur is my least fav.

everything else is higher

[half zephyr]

Arthur is easy fun

[oblique sun]

arthur has beefy damage

i still find it kinda funny

the Holy sword can have the "Cursed Slash" reforge

[half zephyr]

And you can use the sigil to turn off ground traps & stand on lava

[oblique sun]

Holy sword, cursed slash

[eager kindle]

Arthur is fun in low heat. It's straight torture during higher heat tho

[oblique sun]

probably, never used it in high heat but i can see that

[weak spruce]

yea I can't imagine going for 32 heat with arthur sigh

[half zephyr]

I use Arthur as easy run fun

And to level my final keepsakes

[weak spruce]

the special ground effect should make you invulnurable instead