h1-discussion

[grand crystal]

||peel||

||wall|| is a funny one

[half zephyr]

🪲

[grand crystal]

so is ||goat||

and ||bear||

[desert meadow]

The ||avalanche|| one is good

[half zephyr]

You are spoiling them all

[grand crystal]

lol ok

[half zephyr]

I just mentioned 1

[dusky wedge]

Lmao

[desert meadow]

shhhh, you saw nothing

[half zephyr]

I’ve seen them all

[opal oar]

what goes well with posideon boons? im trying to fill out his prophecy

[grand crystal]

zeus

[desert meadow]

^

[grand crystal]

sea storm is ver fun

[desert meadow]

^^^

[grand crystal]

you can also go artemis and try to get mirage shot

curse of drowning is also a trip

[desert meadow]

Artemis works well with anyone tbh, pressure points is so good

[opal oar]

i meant weapons

[grand crystal]

oh and exclusive access/sweet nectar is a trip

[grand crystal]

oh

[desert meadow]

oh

[grand crystal]

ummm

[desert meadow]

uh

[grand crystal]

chiron bow

any cast weapon

luci

[opal oar]

cool thank you!

[desert meadow]

Yeah, could do sea storm special on chiron

[grand crystal]

and sea storm on attack for luci

and pos cast is pretty good for cast stuff

[rare bobcat]

I wish ||Demeter/Pos|| Duo worked with hidden shield aspect but from what I hear it doesnt?

[dusky wedge]

Better with Achilles I think

[desert meadow]

Wiki doesn't say it doesn't

so maybe it does?

[rare bobcat]

Hm. Will have to try sometime

[high island]

You can't get Blizzard Shot on that aspect, no.

[idle tundra]

Can anyone give me any tips on beating ||Theseus and Asterius||? i can beat ||Asterius, both on his own and in the final fight but defeating Theseus as well is giving me a bit of trouble||.

[grand crystal]

ahh for theseus i think the best advice i can give is dont get impatient

[amber kraken]

his shield is the worst >.<

[grand crystal]

he leaves really big openings after throwing/spinning so youll have more than enough time to get damage in

[idle tundra]

yeah that makes sense.

[amber kraken]

I used Ares's cast on him

It worked best

[grand crystal]

and once he hits half try to take your time and not get hit by circles since it makes the fight more hectic

and do you need help on how to dodge things or just general things

[opal oar]

hangover is very funny bc if you stack it enough sometimes foes just... die??? spontaneously

[idle tundra]

I've faced them twice. the first time i only killed ||Asterius||, and the second time i had lost one of my death defines to the hydra and died when ||Asterius|| was at 1/4 health

[idle tundra]

that and athena's dash are surprisingly op

[grand crystal]

yea athena dash is seen as the best in the game

[half zephyr]

But Athena dash is so boring

[grand crystal]

but yea as long as you take your time and dont get greedy, know how to dodge things, and kill asterius first you should beat them in no time :3

[grand crystal]

yea but its very good at 45 heat :3

or just high heat

[idle tundra]

it's VERY nice when you face off against the witches in asphodel. i found that out on my third fight with them.

[grand crystal]

yeaaa

[half zephyr]

The witches aren’t that bad

Now, teleporting witches - that’s when it gets bad

[idle tundra]

they're much easier with the dash tho

[idle tundra]

dog stop saying that. you're gonna make me puke

[half zephyr]

I mean, I choose to give them the chance to have that power up

BP is fun

[grand crystal]

bp is fun

until you turn on bp2

then you can just die

[idle tundra]

what's bp?

[grand crystal]

benefits package

heat stuff

post final boss

[idle tundra]

i just got the game a few days ago so I don't really know any of the strats/items

[grand crystal]

yeaa dont worry about the acronyms since most of them are heat related and thats a post game thing

[half zephyr]

I don’t use strats

[idle tundra]

ah okay

[half zephyr]

Bp2 is also fun tho

[idle tundra]

I've been mostly on my own with this stuff, so the only strat i know is to not span at every encounter, all the time.

[half zephyr]

Teleporting witches with blue hearts

[high island]

Pact initialisms are all pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies if you ever need a list.

[idle tundra]

and even then

[grand crystal]

0-0

[high island]

But they're all initialisms, so if you know the names, it's fairly easy to tell.

[grand crystal]

just wait until you get fast high damage elysium boy s

[half zephyr]

Or when they’re tied together with the pink/magenta line thing

[grand crystal]

or seeking high damage dracons on fo2

[half zephyr]

I’ve had those

Still fun

[grand crystal]

i find it scary

very scary

[half zephyr]

Idk, I like how random they get

[grand crystal]

and run ending sometimes

[high island]

Speaking of pacts: if you want to try some fun pacts, the new Hades Monthly Challenge is pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat.

[half zephyr]

That’s not fun

.>

[grand crystal]

lmao hazard bomb eris is great wdym

[half zephyr]

That combo of aspect+upgrade+heat is just nope

Not for me

[grand crystal]

whats the heat req for it??

might try it tonight

since i wont sleep anyway

[half zephyr]

Lc4

[grand crystal]

oh lol yea im fine iwth that

[half zephyr]

I’m not

[grand crystal]

just take stubborn defiance

and hope for pat

[half zephyr]

Still not

[grand crystal]

and take every heart you can

its not as hard as it seems

[half zephyr]

Unless I end up playing Eris like I usually do

Namely forget I’m on Eris

So I just forget to stand in the blast radius

[grand crystal]

lol

[high island]

There's no rule against playing Eris like you usually do.

[half zephyr]

But I can’t

[grand crystal]

i mean with hazard you have to dash for iframes

[half zephyr]

I’m still in the tutorial!

I can’t save until I exit it so I can’t swap games until then either

[grand crystal]

lmao

[half zephyr]

Aah, the sadness.. woe is me

[grand crystal]

rf4 be locking you down

[half zephyr]

Yes

I at least wanna get to lvl 100 throwing!

Maybe 150

[grand crystal]

lol

[half zephyr]

.>

[grand crystal]

thats a lot of grinding tho

[half zephyr]

I mean I got a lot of let’s play to watch

[grand crystal]

nice

[half zephyr]

Games I can’t play

Plus it’s really making me miss hades

[grand crystal]

aww then play hades :3

just

finish the tutorial

[half zephyr]

No >.>

I mean I can still play hades if I really wanted to

But I’d have to listen to my aging soon to be dead mac try to survive a game playing on it

So I’m good for now

Plus gilga fist is waiting for me..

Still not looking forward to that >.<

[grand crystal]

lmao

[fringe elbow]

woah, using excalibur for the first time, this thing is crazy

[grand crystal]

ME was fun on gilga when i did it

[half zephyr]

Ye

Arthur is easy run

[grand crystal]

imo a werid aspect tho

[half zephyr]

Plum doesn’t like Arthur

[grand crystal]

lol

im not a fan of it

like ill play it, i just like nem more

and i think it its set up right nem has better dps

[half zephyr]

Maybe

[grand crystal]

and shadow doesnt like bow :3

[half zephyr]

But I like my monty python blade

[grand crystal]

we have very different tastes

[half zephyr]

Veeeery

[fringe elbow]

i used nem on sword before this

but its pretty cool

wondering what synergizes well, deflect attack is kinda cool with the sweep

[desert meadow]

Arthur is fun

[grand crystal]

for arthur you can build aphro/arte attack

[desert meadow]

Sword isn't my favorite but Arthur and Poseidon are a blast

[half zephyr]

Artie attack is great

[grand crystal]

i recommend arte and go for heart rend

[half zephyr]

Athena is ok

Go Artie attack w aphro special

So much fun

[fringe elbow]

does the big circle gain effects of special boons?

[grand crystal]

and get like double nova 😎

no

the holy ground always stays the same

[half zephyr]

Your normal special does

Comes after the sigil is put down

[fringe elbow]

ok cool

wow it makes projectiles obsolete

[hardy kernel]

||I tried to romance thanatos and meg at the same time but forgot to talk to than once so it screwed it up :(||

[half zephyr]

Sad

New file time

Ok, I ttyl

[fringe elbow]

wait what happened

[hardy kernel]

Would I have gotten anything if I succeeded?!

Should I sell my ambrosia for titan blood?

[weak spruce]

dies 70 times in a row

still trashtalks

hades the god of trashtalk

[hardy kernel]

Nah that's theseus

[weak spruce]

oh he's just a meme

[high island]

I've done that several times. It's not a bad idea. Titan Blood will let you upgrade your aspects, which lets you clear more reliably, which gets you more bounties faster.

[silent swift]

||https://i.imgur.com/Lwej0x4.png||

I didn't know that was possible to get it twice in the same run rofl

[high island]

lol nice.

[weak spruce]

I am nearly sure pom blossom picks the worst boon to level up each time

[hardy arrow]

I have gotten it twice in about 150 runs

[weak spruce]

with an algorithm

[grand crystal]

lmao mood

sometimes it levels what you want

[hardy arrow]

One of which I died before breaking the chaos curse

[weak spruce]

my divine dash is lvl 8

...

[grand crystal]

lmao

gotta get that dash damage tho

[weak spruce]

common rarity

gonna use acorn instead I guess

for a bit

cuz pom is annoying atm

[grand crystal]

mood

[weak spruce]

in other news beowulf is pretty good

[grand crystal]

acorn is nice

[weak spruce]

my first time using it

[grand crystal]

it is yea

beo is a really good weapon

[weak spruce]

just lvl 1 and it's destroying bosses

[quaint pagoda]

I think I'm almost completely burned out with Hades, just need to do one more run to get all of my achievements and I'm gonna take a long long break.

[silent swift]

took me 140h to get my first one ever then I kept dropping those after that, and I don't use the legendary/duo rate boost

rng for you

[hardy arrow]

Just a warning your Hades skills will rust after 24 hours of disuse.

[lost wolf]

How does guan yu life stealing work?

Does it steal more if it deals more damage?

[grand crystal]

nope

every hit of the spin only heals 1

unless you have a boon that ups healing like nourished soul

otherwise it only heals 1 per hit

[lost wolf]

That sucks

[grand crystal]

just dont get hit tho tbh :/

and its not nearly as bad as it seems

its pretty steady if you get good at using it

[lost wolf]

Bruh I don’t understand this weapon

All of the enemies just run away and cuz of the auto lock, the spin goes for the place that they WERE and not where they’re going

[tepid plover]

Spear?

Oh guan yu

Yeah an acquired taste

I hate the weapon

[somber summit]

Guan yu is my favorite aspect. It combos great with certain boons. Like Dionysus’ poison or Zeus’ lightening. Though it does take some practice to get good with.

at higher heat it kinda falls off a bit though.

[half zephyr]

Dio doesn’t poison as such..
unless you count alcohol poisoning
He just gets the enemies very very drunk so they get a terrible hangover

[brisk trail]

I got so scared when I saw "Dio" but put two and two together and you're talking about Dionysus right?

[narrow hemlock]

dio is generally referring to dionysus in the context of hades game/mythos, yeah

[hardy arrow]

Incidentally I find that a drink or two IRL severely reduces my chances at a clear. I have to think long and hard about my dinner plans vs. making progress on the pact...

[tepid plover]

Any DoT in video games is usually called poison, even if it's not exactly a poison being aplied

[agile owl]

Just finished my first run

[tepid plover]

But you are correct, the status effect is called hangover

[agile owl]

And I have to say

[karmic trellis]

what does resource director do

[tepid plover]

Badges

[karmic trellis]

except waste your resources

[agile owl]

Dude that was intense

[tepid plover]

A resource dump

It gives you a badge

Well

Multiple

[narrow hemlock]

its an endgame resource sink. if you're still using your resources you dont really have to worry about it much, resource director is there for when you have nothing much left to do with your stuff

[karmic trellis]

well that's 2000 darkness i could've used; gone.

[tepid plover]

Well

At least you get a badge now

[narrow hemlock]

2k darkness isnt that hard to get if you deliberately make a build to farm darkness :v

[karmic trellis]

of course your 360 hours would know :v

[narrow hemlock]

but yeah resource director is largely a "i have nothing left to spend my shinies on"

[tepid plover]

So many things they could've done with the resources, and all we got was badges

Sadge

[karmic trellis]

why not things like a really expnesive not that impactful buff like 10000 darkness for a 1% damage buff or 100000 gemstones for a 1% less damage taken

[tepid plover]

Exactly what I said way back then in early access

A bouldy version for eurydice and pat

[grand crystal]

hehe when bouldy gives you 1% damage reduction for a nectar 😎

[narrow hemlock]

i'd rather have the aesthetic badge than a tiny buff for some obscene amount of resource

[tepid plover]

Thats better than the resource director lmao

If only the badge was bigger or had more screen like a hud idk

[half zephyr]

And I was making fun of Dio..
I love the idea of his boons w hangover just being bottles of alcohol thrown at the enemies or the ground around them

[grand crystal]

i mean its at the beginning of your healthbar :/

and having it is pretty cool

[tepid plover]

Also even then, the resource director has a limit

Eventually you'll have nothing to do with resources, that you could be using in game

[grand crystal]

and if youve played to that limit i dont think the game can offer more

[narrow hemlock]

the badges at least have a lore reason, even if its not necessarily a good one. but post credits escaping becomes zag's official job, so the badges are an indicator of the official capacity of his attempts as checking security

[tepid plover]

It could offer me stuff for my runs so yes

[grand crystal]

"could"

but it doesnt

the way the game stands right now i dont think sgg expects anyone to max the badge

[tepid plover]

Well they did bouldy, so I dont see how adding more was any different

[narrow hemlock]

they likely dont expect anyone to max the badge outside of people who have sunk hundreds of hours into the game or people who just cheat the resources in

[tepid plover]

I'm sad

So they expect the people to get bored of the game

[narrow hemlock]

just like heat, its there for people who want to pursue it

[hardy arrow]

You get that stuff for free with god mode!

[narrow hemlock]

hades is still a narrative experience before it is a roguelite though, you are putting the expectations of the genre as an endless experience on the game

[karmic trellis]

gid?

[tepid plover]

Lmao

[tepid plover]

It's still a roguelite nonetheless

Novel or not

[narrow hemlock]

they dont expect people to get "bored" of the game, they expect people to play what they want from it and come away with a hopefully good experience

[tepid plover]

Some people don't care about the story

[karmic trellis]

That's what we call "Goober Goblin Gamer Brain"

[narrow hemlock]

they've said plenty of times already they didnt expect hades to be a game people played for hundreds of hours and were shocked that people were putting hundreds of hours into it.

[tepid plover]

Rip

[narrow hemlock]

thats on those people, not supergiant. story is always a primary factor of their titles.

[tepid plover]

I agree

I like the story

But thinking on a long run isn't bad

Meh

Wasted potential imo, still a success

[grand crystal]

i dont think any roguelike/lite is meant to be played for 100s of hours

they have their limits

[tepid plover]

?

Tf

[karmic trellis]

Doggo would like to have a word with you.

[grand crystal]

like yes they are meant to last a while

but not eternally

[tepid plover]

If any game is meant to be played with no end, are roguelikes

What

[grand crystal]

but there is an end

to any game

you cant play gungeon forever

[tepid plover]

You put the end yourself, but the game doesn't have one

You getting bored doesn't mean the game is over

[tepid plover]

Yes you can?

You dont do it, doesn't mean you cant

[karmic trellis]

you can play any game forever

[tepid plover]

^

People have thousands of hours in isaac

Even after completing everything multiple times

[grand crystal]

and how many of those are done with just the base game

[tepid plover]

Is why the game has variety

[karmic trellis]

there's a point where you've seen everything but if you want to play pyre for 900 hours and play the whole thing 1800 times that is possible

[tepid plover]

Bro, youre putting that limit yourself

Just because you completed everything doesn't mean you have to stop playing

[half zephyr]

Until the system breaks, or if multiplayer - until the servers shut down

[karmic trellis]

you can make your own server

[tepid plover]

It's a roguelike, it's meant to be a different run each time, there's no limit to the variety

[half zephyr]

Online then

Not much you can do at that point

[karmic trellis]

ok

[grand crystal]

there always is tho after a certain point, like hades

[tepid plover]

If you play the game just to complete stuff that's on you

[grand crystal]

it gets repeditive after a while

[karmic trellis]

you can stare at the menu

[tepid plover]

I never played hades to unlock everything

[grand crystal]

since its the same general rooms, same 8 gods

[tepid plover]

Yes,

[grand crystal]

i think 8

[tepid plover]

Thats just hades

Which is why I said wasted potential

They could've done more

And pump up the replayability

[half zephyr]

Is that with or without Hermes & chaos?

[tepid plover]

Again, still a success which is fine

[grand crystal]

just olympians unless i suck at math in which i do

[karmic trellis]

so do you want a new game or them to perfect hades?

[tepid plover]

Hermes is olympian

[half zephyr]

He’s a mix here boonwise tho

[tepid plover]

Just more content on hades but I dont see it happening

[half zephyr]

Not a full Olympian

[tepid plover]

I know, it was a lore joke

[karmic trellis]

it won't. they said it won't.

[tepid plover]

Well

There it is

Yeah thats all I'm saying, of course I can't tell them what to do

Is their game

Just what I think wouldve been better for the game as a whole, not even for me

[karmic trellis]

they have limited resources and time.

[tepid plover]

Just the opinion of an idiot on the internet

[karmic trellis]

ok

[tepid plover]

I was referring to myself there

Not you gerry

[karmic trellis]

ik

[tepid plover]

[karmic trellis]

i was simping

[tepid plover]

Yeah

Me2

[karmic trellis]

you were anti-simping

[tepid plover]

How so

[karmic trellis]

you were criticizing a game that i like

[tepid plover]

I also like the game

[karmic trellis]

and my opinion is always right

[tepid plover]

Criticism isn't necessarily bad

I love this game

[karmic trellis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807047989683683328/815764521045852180/So_about_that.mp4

[tepid plover]

Lmfao

[karmic trellis]

it hasn't even been up for 15 seconds :(

[tepid plover]

Not my mom 😩

Already seen it

[karmic trellis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/396521401932054538.png?v=1

[hardy arrow]

I believe @karmic trellis started it by asking why the badges do nothing when they are CLEARLY the reason for the whole game - a scathing self examination of the industry's growing reliance on microtransactions for in-game cosmetics.

The "fun" was an afterthought.

[swift mist]

[sudden tangle]

I just found the boss killer. The aspect of demeter fists, with the dash upper explosion upgrade, with an artemis flourish and full cutter charge. I just deleted the doomstones armor with one hit, and I didn't even crit

[grand crystal]

yea dem fists is fun

and once you get explosive upper you just kinda kill everything

[sudden tangle]

Im thinking dio art build for this. have hangover on attack and crit on special, and try and fish up that duo

[grand crystal]

yea that works :3

or something like heart rend could also work

heart rend is just good lol

[unborn remnant]

16 heat complete

[sudden tangle]

And I just beat tis in 30 seconds

[unborn remnant]

Time for 32 now

somehow

maybe I should go 20 / 24 / 28 / 32

[rapid forum]

Nah

[runic parrot]

you should

[rapid forum]

Dew it

Do the jump

[runic parrot]

or at least go 24 first

[rapid forum]

Straight to 30

[hardy kernel]

oh ok thanks!

[sudden tangle]

Lernie best boy

[high island]

For anyone who hasn't seen yet, the new Hades Monthly Challenge is pinned over in #h1-builds-and-combat.

[runic parrot]

ah yes my favourite synergy

hazard eris

[sudden tangle]

Do we have the get the boons randomly, or is there a way to debug em in for the run?

[runic parrot]

ty for the info nyaanyaa

[high island]

You'll have to get them through normal gameplay. If you want tips, m sure the people here or in #h1-builds-and-combat can help you with getting everything you need.

[charred anchor]

can you have both heartbrike strike and the ares doom attack?

[high island]

No.

[charred anchor]

😔

[high island]

You can only have one boon in each core boon slot.

But you can have Heartbreak Strike + Curse of Pain, which is Doom on Special.

[paper kettle]

Hello! Does anyone here have both Hades on Macos Steam and Switch and can attest that cross-platform saves work? So far the documentation seem to only mention PC and Switch. Thank you

[high island]

Best place for questions like that is #h1-tech-support.

[wooden karma]

My favorite ranged weapon is chaos dinner plate
And the game took it from me because I don’t know how anvils work :((

[grand crystal]

oh the anvils in styx take one of your 2 hammers at ramdom, gets rid of it, and gives you 2 random applicable hammers to replace

imo you shouldnt be taking it unless you got garbage hammers, feel like gambling, or just wanna meme

[wooden karma]

I thought you could choose

And then my dinner plate rail gun was taken from me

[grand crystal]

nope

all random

god my wifi is just being so slow rn

[wooden karma]

Good thing my other hammers weren’t too bad

Still arse-mad about losing it tho

[grand crystal]

yea hammer can either be a godsend or just a mistake :/

never really an inbetween

[tepid plover]

usually a mistake

unless you run ap2

[grand crystal]

^^yeaaa

[wooden karma]

is ap2 spoilers?

[grand crystal]

ap2 makes anvils clutch out runs sometimes

its post final boss difficulty stuff

[wooden karma]

Sorry I haven’t beaten hades yet

[tepid plover]

ap2 could be considered spoilers depending on how you see it

[wooden karma]

Got to him once with a cracked gauntlets run

And now once I resume the run; a cracked shield run

Speaking of which; boiling blood is only fun when I use it :((

[grand crystal]

lmao yea

ive gotten to a point where he isnt much of a hassle tho

and for that just try to be careful and start being more defensive when you get hit by the casts

[runic parrot]

use poseidon sword its great

[grand crystal]

yea its nice :3

i did a zeus cast run with it last night

ended with 6 casts

it was abyssal not stygina soul so :/

but thats still a lot

1 form chaos and 2 from arte legendary

i also got zeus legendary :3

it was very fun

[half zephyr]

Beware this chat then - lots of story spoilers scattered all over
Feel free to stay if you don’t mind it though

[runic parrot]

i got 8 casts on a failed run

i wish i got exit wounds

that wouldve been the thing to beat dad

3 from abyssal, 3 +1's from chaos and +2 from arty

[grand crystal]

oh damn

[half zephyr]

Plum

It’s not fair

[grand crystal]

shadow

what isnt??

[half zephyr]

1 lvl & I have to take a break cuz power

[grand crystal]

oh no

so close

and yet so far

[half zephyr]

[grand crystal]

well how long does it take to grind out 1 level??

[half zephyr]

At this stage.. long

XD

don’t have any xp boost items yet

[grand crystal]

lmao

[half zephyr]

Hopefully something in the discord chats can amuse me

How’s hades going for people?

[grand crystal]

i mean i can just start sending you memes :/

[half zephyr]

I wouldn’t understand them

[grand crystal]

;w;

[sudden tangle]

Alright, the charge shot special on demeter is a kamehameha

[half zephyr]

Yes

But weak

[sudden tangle]

It aint about damage, its about fighting like an anime character

[half zephyr]

Krillin kamehameha

[grand crystal]

i think at base it out damages base special

[half zephyr]

Not Goku

[sudden tangle]

The range is also nice

[half zephyr]

Get Artemis

[grand crystal]

and if you get exploding upper you can just point blank it

[half zephyr]

The duo is nice

[sudden tangle]

I didn't expect artemis to stack so well with the infernal arm of throwing hands

[half zephyr]

Seeking kamehameha

[grand crystal]

artemis works with anything tbh

top tier god that many(including myself) simp for

[sudden tangle]

And her duos are great

[grand crystal]

mhm :3

[sudden tangle]

Especially with the status effect gods

[grand crystal]

heart rend is used a lot

mirage shot is amazing for cast builds

and deadly reversal can be funny

like i was doing ME and got deadly reversal

on zeus shield

so my 500 doom damage was criting

very fun

[half zephyr]

Neat

[grand crystal]

very :3

[sudden tangle]

A part of me loves and hates hermes. His boons are alright, but every time I see them, I get better, thinking I missed out on ACTUAL boons

[grand crystal]

yea only a bit of what he has is good

hyper sprint, greater reflex, rush delivery, any cast ones

those are his better options

[half zephyr]

Isn’t that most gods?

[sudden tangle]

My malformed ADHD brain just wants the numbers to get big and pop up fast

[grand crystal]

lmao not arte :3

shes good all around

same with athena

[half zephyr]

Eh

I’m not sold on hunter dash

[grand crystal]

well you dont play bow :/

[half zephyr]

It’s ok, but my status

[half zephyr]

I used that on bow & it’s why I don’t like it anymore

[grand crystal]

on bow its just a damage buff

lmao

[half zephyr]

My status!!

[grand crystal]

its also god on sword

[sudden tangle]

Athena is a great god to have on the side, but not a build center

[half zephyr]

Athena is boring

[grand crystal]

ME and sd would like to speak with you

[sudden tangle]

She's the bread of any build, sures its a part of it, but it ain't the reason you're eating the sandwich

[half zephyr]

Not my builds

[grand crystal]

hunters mark exists :3

and hunters mark is very fun

[half zephyr]

With the dash?

It doesn’t give critical

[grand crystal]

thats a damn good analogy

[grand crystal]

no it doesnt

but im just saying

take like pressure points

and take hm

[half zephyr]

And that’s also not true - bread is amazing

Athena is not

[grand crystal]

hehe bread is very tasty

all of my grilled cheeses are made with a garlic bread spread :3

[sudden tangle]

I'm a Texan, its a skill passed from parent to child

[grand crystal]

really makes the meal

[half zephyr]

The spread is secondary on a sandwich

[grand crystal]

lmao

[sudden tangle]

But you don't eat a sandwich for the bread, it acts as a delivery system

[half zephyr]

Cuz if you got crap bread then it’s a crap sandwich

I eat it for the bread

[grand crystal]

sourdough bread is tasty af tho

and like sourdough melts are sooo good

[half zephyr]

Bread is a big part of Norwegian meals

It’s breakfast, lunch, supper & can be dinner too

And dessert

[sudden tangle]

Oh yeah, bread can really show up sometimes, but its not the focus. Its a quality of life thing. Its something where you're finished and say "I am glad I picked that to go along with the rest"

[half zephyr]

Bread is amazing

[grand crystal]

yea bread is great

[half zephyr]

That’s what I feel about the topping

[grand crystal]

like give me a nice bread and ill eat just that for a day

[sudden tangle]

I need to get me some good herb bread to go with this damn good smoked cheese I got

[half zephyr]

It’s like sushi - everything is about the rice

[grand crystal]

ooo yea that sounds good

^^truuueee

ive made sushi

and yea a lot matters

but if the rice is garbage theres no point

[sudden tangle]

I've made kitchen fires, so practically the same thing

[grand crystal]

lmao mood

[half zephyr]

Exactly!

[sudden tangle]

Its like foundation, if its crap, everything is crap, but if its great, everything can still go awful if not set up right

[half zephyr]

Athena, if anything, is more like a spice or condiment

She’s nice to have, but not always needed

[grand crystal]

imo thats my opinion of dio

like he has some nice boons, but he never steals the show

[half zephyr]

And too much can make it not good (in this case fun) anymore

[sudden tangle]

Someone needs to make a sandwich tierlist for the gods

[half zephyr]

True

He’s the drink that goes with the sandwich

[grand crystal]

demeter is the lettuce, shes just there to freshen things up but no one likes the lettuce

or at least cares about it :/

[sudden tangle]

is she ICEBERG lettuce?

HEHEHEHEHEHHE

[grand crystal]

istg

[half zephyr]

Except for those few times when it for some reason really tastes great

[grand crystal]

truuueee

[half zephyr]

But it’s so rare it almost doesn’t matter

[grand crystal]

ok but who would the meat be??

like arte/aphro??

[sudden tangle]

Zeus is like peppered turkey breast, he's the star of the show, whether you like it or not

[grand crystal]

i see them a lot

[sudden tangle]

You can have a lot of meat in a sandwich

[half zephyr]

I wonder what ares would be

[sudden tangle]

a sharp cheese

[grand crystal]

ares feels like a good cheese/sauce

[half zephyr]

XD

[sudden tangle]

SAME WAVELENGTH

[half zephyr]

Cheese it is

[grand crystal]

like he isnt always needed but makes it 100 times better

[half zephyr]

Chaos is the mystery sauce

Could be good, could be bad

You never really know for sure until you’ve tried it a couple times

[grand crystal]

lmao yea

[sudden tangle]

Chaos is you interrupting your sandwich making time for a game of russian roulette

[grand crystal]

pos imo would be the chips people put in sandwiches sometimes

like

[half zephyr]

Or are they an ice cream sandwich? Not what you expected when you ordered a sandwich, but you’re still happy with the result for the most part

[grand crystal]

no one asked for it, no one wanted it, but the crunch

[grand crystal]

omfg this tbh

[sudden tangle]

If I find icecream in my ham and cheese, someones meeting god

[half zephyr]

Cuz I think, in the end

The bread is your weapon & aspect

And the boons are just what you put on it after

[grand crystal]

truueeeeeeee

[sudden tangle]

Nah, weapons are the time when you make the sandwich. Depending on when you make a sandwich, it just hits different

[half zephyr]

And now I’m suddenly imagining Zag & Hades fighting each other with sandwiches on the surface

[sudden tangle]

Im hungry now

[grand crystal]

😔 i want food now

[half zephyr]

I’m fine

[twin moat]

Wait what

[half zephyr]

Scroll up

[sonic lance]

i literally bought the game today and I'm at the final boss

[half zephyr]

You’ll understand

[sudden tangle]

The poms are you spending more on better sandwich stuff, like going to a dedicated deli instead of a supermarket

[grand crystal]

pog 🥳

[half zephyr]

Congrats, but don’t think it’s the end just yet

[grand crystal]

lol and mom pom trinket is just the 50$ visa your parents gave you

[sonic lance]

i have no words, but the guy just revived himself

[grand crystal]

mhm

[half zephyr]

Also this be the spoiler heavy chat

[grand crystal]

he has death defies too lol

[sudden tangle]

You get to do that too if you upgrade enough

[half zephyr]

If you want more spoiler free zone head to the #h1-for-new-players channel

[sonic lance]

yeah but, i'm out of that

[half zephyr]

In here there’s random story spoilers at all times

[sudden tangle]

And also analogy discussions about what parts of a build equate what parts of a sandwich

[half zephyr]

Yes

Very serious discussions

Game breaking really

[grand crystal]

trinkets are just the type of side :/

[sudden tangle]

HAMMERS ARE TOASTING THE SANDWICH

[grand crystal]

:o

[half zephyr]

Companions are your favorite extra addons that you never get enough of when you crave need them
And if you want more you’ll just have to pay for it

Like extra bacon

[grand crystal]

mfg i was gonna say the 1.50$ for bacon

[half zephyr]

We’d make such great sandwiches in this game

Zagreus for cooking sim when

Forget cooking mama - we got cooking zag

[grand crystal]

i wanna play the head chef now :3

[half zephyr]

Mhmm

[sudden tangle]

Nah, companions are who you eat your sandwiches with. Nothing quite like lunch with the boys

[half zephyr]

Nah, that’s than ofc

[grand crystal]

charon shops and wells be that 1.50$ for bacon

[sudden tangle]

Than is a surprise sandwich making contest

[half zephyr]

He shows up to challenge you to a contest

😂

Exactly

[sonic lance]

just died

i'm leaving man

[grand crystal]

rip

[half zephyr]

And the bosses are the judges

Testing your sandwich along the way

Seeing how it evolves

[grand crystal]

lmao

the titan blood is just letting you get better quality ingrediants

[sudden tangle]

So its Hell's kitchen?

[half zephyr]

Mhmm

XD

Yes

[half zephyr]

Uhhuh, like better bread

[grand crystal]

hehe bread

[half zephyr]

It all comes full Circle

[sudden tangle]

to make it breader

[half zephyr]

[sudden tangle]

I do feel the weapons are the bread metaphor now, the stygian is plain whitebread, good for every occasion, but never great

[half zephyr]

And then you eventually end up with the more exotic breads as you get to hidden aspects

[grand crystal]

take that back >:(

sword is great

[sudden tangle]

Yeah, but which god is eggs added to make it a breakfast sandwich?

[half zephyr]

Zag aspect bread

[half zephyr]

Hermes maybe - he’s the one w the feathers

[grand crystal]

zag aspect bread 🤮

[half zephyr]

That’s the plain white bread lol

Lvl 0 zag

[grand crystal]

he do make it a whole different sandwich once you get his stuff

[half zephyr]

Mhmm

He switches it all up

[sudden tangle]

Nah, i'd say poseidon honestly. He does some oddball stuff, but he's definitely like a meat

[half zephyr]

But

He’s the seafood

[grand crystal]

lol

something very few people enjoy

but still tasty if done right

[sudden tangle]

It aint the theme, its the feeling

[half zephyr]

Uhhuh

Sad

[sudden tangle]

You slightly change your fighting style for a pos build, going for wall slams. You're still making a sandwich at the end of the day, but its just different

[half zephyr]

We have some pretty oddball seafood toppings

Pickled herring

[grand crystal]

i-

that sounds gross

and i like seafood ;w;

[half zephyr]

Shrimp

[grand crystal]

but pickled fish in general is just ehh

[half zephyr]

Just cold small shrimp

[sudden tangle]

The Norwegians live in Norway, let them have their comfort food, they need it

[half zephyr]

We got kaviar which is caviar that isn’t caviar - it’s just fish roe

[grand crystal]

lmao roe is tasty

i like it on sushi

also looks nice :3

[half zephyr]

Not that kind

[sudden tangle]

We got smoked oysters

You don't bite, you schlurp em

[half zephyr]

Do you eat it on bread?

[grand crystal]

sweats

[sudden tangle]

No, I eat it straight

[half zephyr]

Cuz we got this all on bread & open faced sandwiches

[half zephyr]

This isn’t sushi roe - it’s cod roe & such, pretty much just tastes like salt

[grand crystal]

ahh

well its all still fish eggs

[sudden tangle]

Alright, strangest cultural food, go

I'll go first

[half zephyr]

Sheep head

[grand crystal]

anything british

[sudden tangle]

we texans got cow fries

[half zephyr]

Whole sheep head - eye ball included

[grand crystal]

im not british but still

the food is gross

[sudden tangle]

No, I mean, from your own culture

[grand crystal]

damn

ummmm

i mean

[sudden tangle]

Its bull testicles, btw

[grand crystal]

idk any wack korean stuff

[half zephyr]

Or we got lye fish which is fish soaked in lye that has to be watered out so it won’t be toxic

[grand crystal]

oh fun

[half zephyr]

It turns the fish into jelly & you eat it for Christmas

[sudden tangle]

COWBOY CAVIAR

[grand crystal]

ive made that before i think

[sudden tangle]

With a creamy center

[half zephyr]

It’s not that weird tho

[grand crystal]

eh i could be thinking of something else

[sudden tangle]

You're norwegian, you're a biased judge of these thing

[half zephyr]

You asked tho

[sudden tangle]

Yeah, its bull testes, cowboy caviar is just another name

[half zephyr]

Anyways Hades

Yes

Game

[grand crystal]

good game

i like game

makes me feel gamer

[grand crystal]

yea i was thinking of something else

[half zephyr]

Discussion debate conversation

[grand crystal]

uhhhhhhhh

i cant think of any hot takes ;w;

[half zephyr]

Discuss why my bow rng is so bad

Find a solution please

[grand crystal]

idk

what do you try to build with it??

[half zephyr]

Idk

Stuff suggested to me usually

[sudden tangle]

You have bad house upgrades, making you have bad feng shui

[half zephyr]

My upgrades are great

[sudden tangle]

Your bow rng disagrees

[grand crystal]

ummm i mean

name a bow aspect

[half zephyr]

Cerb got both toys & both beds on rotation & my west wing is filled with Death

Rama

[grand crystal]

and ill give you a build

oh lol

[half zephyr]

600!!

[grand crystal]

ummm aphro/arte attack

[half zephyr]

I did

[grand crystal]

and take a status special

[half zephyr]

I did

[grand crystal]

yea ive told you this before shadow :3

[sudden tangle]

Great hall is for death

[grand crystal]

oh did it not go well??

[half zephyr]

No it’s not, it’s the west wing cuz that’s where Than is

[grand crystal]

i love thans little corner

[sudden tangle]

Than goes to the west wing for a break from his job, and to watch the styx.

[grand crystal]

it just looks comfy

[half zephyr]

I survived, but I didn’t have the dmg output expected from Rama

600!!

[grand crystal]

yikes

well

try it again??

[sudden tangle]

Where as the great hall is where Hades works, and needs appropriate decor

[half zephyr]

People went over the math

[grand crystal]

did you get good hammers??

[half zephyr]

Literally added up what I’d end up with

[grand crystal]

oh yea i was one of those people

[half zephyr]

Uhhuh

I got ok hammers

But my build got your seal of approval

[grand crystal]

rama dps is kinda hammer dependent ngl

[sudden tangle]

But the Bloodless statue is a west hall must have

[half zephyr]

It was just my dmg was lower then it should’ve been

Had I had a good run

[grand crystal]

well nice to know that my seal of approval matters

[half zephyr]

You’re the crazy guy who’s both part of bow gang & high heat gang

[grand crystal]

high heat bow gang

:3

i did 45 heat with rama

[half zephyr]

If anyone would get it it would be someone like that

[grand crystal]

:3

[half zephyr]

I barely made it through heat 3!

[grand crystal]

:3

[half zephyr]

Ok switch gotta have enough power now

Wish me luck!

[grand crystal]

hehe good luck shadow :3

[brisk trail]

high heat rail gang

[sudden tangle]

Who would win, zag or kratos?

[grand crystal]

zag

he got death defies

and mort

and the assistance of several gods

and weapons that have killed more powerful gods

[sudden tangle]

And his ability to naturally come back the pool of styx, because sooner or later the fight would go down to Tartarus as one or both die

[grand crystal]

yeaaa

zag wins hands down

and i dont think kratos could handle the sheer religion emanating from arthur aspect

[sudden tangle]

He would definitely beat Zag out in strength and durability, but zags ability to constantly come back would wear him down

[grand crystal]

but like

zag got athena dash

that makes him immortal(more than he already was)

[sudden tangle]

But to be honest, they might not fight

[grand crystal]

well kratos is now in the world of norse myth so :/

[sudden tangle]

Depends on the Kratos in question

[grand crystal]

hehe yea

dad or angy

[sudden tangle]

But Zag doesn't really partake in the Olympians games, and can't even properly leave Hades

[weak spruce]

the infernal chests that give gemstones, game spawns way too many enemies for those

75 to 8 lol

[grand crystal]

just get faster :/

thats really all i can say about it

[weak spruce]

I counted actually, it spawned around 7 shielded uhh what are those guys called

shield dudes in elysium

[grand crystal]

mhm

they suck

but are easy enough to kill if you know what to do

just sit on from of em for a second, let them start the attack, then dash behind

[weak spruce]

yea but with bow though

when I am using a melee weapon they are no problem but

yea

anyway I ruined the your convo sorry

going back in to game now

[grand crystal]

bruh bow has amazing dps :/

[grand crystal]

it was a dead convo anyway youre fine :3

[runic parrot]

imagine going for gem troves, this was made by coin troves gang

free 150 coins is great

[grand crystal]

lmao

i almost never go for troves unless its hp

and even then im generally fine

[weak spruce]

you know what I am ignoring gem troves too

frustrating

[runic parrot]

i never go for troves in elysium

[weak spruce]

iunno if it's my imagination but coin troves are easier

less enemies

[runic parrot]

they're too spread out

and they tank

esp greatshields and eyeballs

i mean butterfly balls

[brisk trail]

Heyy

does blood frenzy percentage stack ?

[runic parrot]

its additive

[grand crystal]

blood frenzy is only once i believe

so having 2 dds go off doesnt double the buff

[brazen lagoon]

no

[hardy thistle]

no

[deep parrot]

<@&456908176877551658>

also hi arty

my "soul mate" is asleep
so I play hades now :3

[brazen lagoon]

nice

[deep parrot]

hopefully I don't play until 1 am this time >.>

cuz I sorta wanna wake up at 5:25

[brazen lagoon]

you could just play until then

[deep parrot]

I want to not fall asleep in the middle of the day

[alpine stratus]

hey whats up?

[deep parrot]

another mod dealt with it; the message was already deleted

[brazen lagoon]

guy posted a server invite to a random server

[red coral]

got it, thank you all~

[deep parrot]

yw

tbh if I really want to wake up at 5:25 I probably should already be in bed >.<

[rapid acorn]

Heyo

[deep parrot]

hi

[rapid acorn]

After 6 days of playing this game, hades has been vanquished

[deep parrot]

hades never is vanquished

[rapid acorn]

For the first time

[deep parrot]

only temporarily sent back to the depths

[rapid acorn]

I know that

I mean it took me 6 days to beat him once

[deep parrot]

:P

game is fun, yeah?

[rapid acorn]

Aww yeah

12 hours in 6 days plus school

[deep parrot]

lmao hades just called zag an oaf

[rapid acorn]

Hades needs to stop eating all of that asphodel fried satyr

[deep parrot]

satyrs are at styx not in asphodel

[grand crystal]

and i dont think anyone eats satyr

besides like cerby

[rapid acorn]

My joke got shut down immediately

It was a play on kfc

[deep parrot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/802613885780885566/819783629268975616/unknown.png

wait what
gods
moving on?

[rapid acorn]

Zag and girl?

[sudden patrol]

damn i just got the most simple, great build ever

[rapid acorn]

Heyo don cheedle, how’s hades?

[sudden patrol]

aphro attack and artemis special on chiron with heart rend

[deep parrot]

lmao either a god holds a grudge for the rest of eternity, or forgives instantly
but this message is in the middle ground >.>

my game crashed-

[sudden patrol]

since you do crit damage almost every time with artemis on special heart rend is so op

cause you need to inflict weak to use chiron well

with the main attack

[rapid acorn]

Man pine I’m on a Mac and I haven’t crashed once

It could be worse

[sudden patrol]

same, im on switch and it never crashed

[deep parrot]

windows crashed-
as in
the taskbar at the bottom just went black and refreshed

[rapid acorn]

Oh

Well then

[sudden patrol]

holy hell meg just turned to dust

[deep parrot]

but like the game froze then crashed before that happened

[sudden patrol]

this is like aspect of hestia but 10x better

[desert meadow]

You got heart rend before Meg?

That’ll be a fairly easy run

[sudden patrol]

it should be

[desert meadow]

Aphrodite also has a boon that makes weak foes take more damage, that’d work beautifully with this.

If you can find it

[rapid acorn]

Just got my membership card baby

[sudden patrol]

yeah

I also got that boon on epic earlier on

This is gonna be ez

[desert meadow]

Oh wow

[sudden patrol]

as helll

honestly I've never had better luck

I'll prob die to hades tho

cuz i suck at the game

well

let's see

[desert meadow]

Just grab a good call and you’re set

[rapid acorn]

So wait membership cards last forever right?

[sudden patrol]

no

[desert meadow]

The ones from Charon?

[grand crystal]

just for that run

[rapid acorn]

Oh mb

[desert meadow]

Yeah, run only

[grand crystal]

20% off is still super nice tho

especially at styx shop

[deep parrot]

accompanied with a free 300 gold mind you

[grand crystal]

but whenever he leaves his money out is whne im doing a high heat run so i dont take it ;w;

[sudden patrol]

not free from the guilt

charon works hard for that

[rapid acorn]

Not if it used all 3 death defiance’s and the accidental skelly tooth I had

[sudden patrol]

and you rob him

[desert meadow]

Does he?

[grand crystal]

what if its just the money you gave him

and you just take it back

[desert meadow]

I bet Zag is his main source of income tbh

[grand crystal]

especially with cf2

270 for boons ;w;

90 for food

210 for hearts

[sudden patrol]

so robbery?

[desert meadow]

Besides, if dying sends you back into the Styx, he could just fish out any money you drop.

[sudden patrol]

you got his items in exchange

you're not taking it back like a refund

since you keep his items

if you gave his items back it's be fine

but in the well it says no refunds

soooo

[grand crystal]

who doesnt love a little crime tho

little bit of burglary

[deep parrot]

ykw I think I am gonna sleep now instead of later

[desert meadow]

Probably better for the economy down there anyway

[deep parrot]

that way I can wake up more conscious at 5:25

gn folks

[rapid acorn]

Touché it’s 10 for me rn

[deep parrot]

it's 10 for me rn too

[rapid acorn]

CST boiii

[sudden patrol]

charon runs a literal monopoly and you're his only customer, the economy is screwed regardless

8:20 here

pst gangg

[desert meadow]

True true

[grand crystal]

pst gang 😎

[desert meadow]

Smh, y’all are stuck in the past. 11:18 is much cooler

[rapid acorn]

Is it just me or does hades progression ramp up once you beat him once

[grand crystal]

yea

[deep parrot]

the amount of things wrong with what you just said makes me want to scream

[grand crystal]

it do be like that

[desert meadow]

It shouldn’t?

[grand crystal]

for any roguelike tbh

[rapid acorn]

Man free titan blood

[desert meadow]

Not like we can hear you do so

[rapid acorn]

Do the 1 hit shield

[deep parrot]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

yes you can

:3