does hermes have a lower chance for rarity than all the other gods? it seems so hard to find blue/purples from him
#h1-discussion
distant quiver
tender fjord
its not bad if you can get the hang of it
hollow hawk
does hermes have a lower chance for rarity than all the other gods? it seems so...
dont think so, nope
hollow hawk
i usually just take nectar from eurydice if i havent seen my second hermes yet/buy a yarn from tartarus endwell
especially for runs that need good hermes boons
runic parrot
does hermes have a lower chance for rarity than all the other gods? it seems so...
iirc they do
by they i mean hermes's boons
its a very slight difference on the blues and purples
and a major difference for the legs
runic parrot
idk about rush delivery since its a non-leg boon
it should be in the pool with the other boons
but damn it does feel like i never get it
manic moat
I almost always get rush delivery when I have the prereqs for it
vapid totem
guys guan yu is not worth it
unborn ermine
That is controversial
hollow hawk
you shouldnt be using unleveled guan yu
use it at max
also, yeah it isnt really a noob-friendly weapon
vapid totem
oh i forgot there is something like levels
hollow hawk
you need to know how to use it, to not get killed using it
runic parrot
yeah
vapid totem
i wouldnt say im a noob, just unfocused
runic parrot
the one thing you NEED to know that you need to use the frost fair fair frost frost blade fang frost as a clutch
you have to not rely on the heal
the special is where the true power of gy lies
hollow hawk
you only ever spin on guan yu when enemies are spawning
or if you have quick/massive spin as hammers
also, never attack on guan yu
special into dash strike into dash strike
is the ideal guan yu combo
hollow hawk
artemis special is correct yeah
the ideal boons for guan yu are aphro attack with arty special, and go for heartrend
the best hammer for guan yu is charged skewer, which makes it so that your special charges up to do +200% dmg
distant quiver
Usually it's the multi-dash hermes boon that I'm after
For combo with poseidon dash
Athena and Poseidon are the only two dashes worth getting, IMO. They need to fix all the others, they all suck.
Maybe Arti for specific builds is ok
Demeter, Dio, and Aphro dashes are pretty bad though
or at least I haven't figured out how to use them properly yet
distant quiver
I almost always get rush delivery when I have the prereqs for it
what are the "prereqs" for Rush Delivery?
oh shoot, nvm lol. They're in the boon list
And oh... I didn't know there actually were prereqs for it
runic parrot
heroic greatest reflex 
distant quiver
I've never gotten a red Greatest Reflex
Only way to get those for stuff that isn't attack, special, cast, or dash is 2nd floor friend chamber and Demeter's Rare Crops or whatever it's called, right?
Calls don't ever get offered as replacements for a call you already have, right?
Like the other 4 do
If they do, I don't ever seem to see it offered.
carmine ravine
You dont get heroic boons by themselves
You can only get epic and then increase their rarity
hasty owl
you can get heroic if a god offers u a trade
but i think u have to already have an epic boon
brazen lagoon
yeah
brisk trail
@brazen lagoon man of culture i see
brazen lagoon
lol
surreal condor
I just got friendzoned
Took her long enough, I gave her that final ambrosia like 13 runs ago
Probably more
And I finally unlocked the hidden aspect of varatha, which took like what? more than 20 runs
My rng is the worst
gentle cloak
One thing that doesn't get praised enough is the Hades' community being incredibly supportive of LGBTQ people
I don't get shouted down when I point out Chaos uses they/them
Low bar to clear? Yes, but also that's where most gamers are
brazen lagoon
You gotta start somewhere
amber kraken
only "gaming" communities Im part of are the Sims and Dragon Age, one has a whole story of how they kept trying to put in lgbtq stuff since their first game and the other has openly gay and trans characters. So I only hear the horror stories about what Gamers ™️ are like
brazen lagoon
Play any fps games and you'll understand
amber kraken
They dont vibe with me
undone hornet
I mean, of course this community accepts LGBT people, have you Looked at Zagreus?
Man's bisexuality incarnate
gentle cloak
Or any Greek myth
brazen lagoon
As someone who has 2k hours in csgo fps players are not the most friendly or inclusive of people
amber kraken
Classical Greece is home to many gay/bi icons
uncut ore
what are the best hidden aspects?
gentle cloak
||Arthur & Lucifer|| imo
amber kraken
How do you get those hidden aspects?
uncut ore
I wasted all my blood on zag aspects but the only upside is that now I can really easily get the hidden aspects
amber kraken
I still havent unlocked any
gentle cloak
Can I DM you, Eve?
uncut ore
How do you get those hidden aspects?
unlock lots of other aspects
and then talk to achilles
amber kraken
Can I DM you, Eve?
ok
uncut ore
As someone who has 2k hours in csgo fps players are not the most friendly or inc...
yeah you dont need 2k hours to figure that out
ugh I have no idea what build to do with the gun
I picked ares as my first god
do I do aphrodite or do I take a hammer?
I think I should leave a spot for ares
half zephyr
How do you get those hidden aspects?
look in the pinned msgs over in #h1-story-discussion - just scroll down in them & everything is there, hidden behind individual spoiler tags
amber kraken
oh thanks
half zephyr
do I do aphrodite or do I take a hammer?
hammer will appear again, aphrodite might not
uncut ore
I think I should leave a spot for ares
doom on melee is great
half zephyr
up to you
uncut ore
hammer will appear again, aphrodite might not
yeah but is aphrodite good with the rail?
with zag aspect 😦
uncut ore
she has dmg % boost
but base rail dmg is really bad isnt it?
undone hornet
Dude I'm boutta lose it, I'm only missing one aphro boon for the prophecy and she REFUSES to show up
half zephyr
and then you got the boon that makes weak enemies take more dmg
uncut ore
but base rail dmg is really bad isnt it?
for that reason I didnt take pierced butterfly either, getting damage boosts arent very useful when you have 10 (!) base damage
half zephyr
Dude I'm boutta lose it, I'm only missing one aphro boon for the prophecy and sh...
summon her?
and use fated persuasion
uncut ore
eh ill take aphrodite anyway
undone hornet
Summon her?
uncut ore
Summon her?
sure her little charm thing
half zephyr
eh ill take aphrodite anyway
oh ye, and aphrodite call is epic at full gauge
uncut ore
ayy found an erebus gate
undone hornet
Wha
half zephyr
Wha
fated persuasion is a mirror upgrade that lets you reroll boons you get from gods & stuff sold in wells & boons you can purge using a fated dice
the key room upgrade lets you get another dice everytime you get a key room reward
undone hornet
Oh, yeah, I just unlocked that
half zephyr
its taunting me
you do get that they'll show up every run now 
uncut ore
what should my 4th be?
uncut ore
oh I need athena
half zephyr
guh
I was gonna suggest tidal dash if you had dash open
cuz you might get sea storm
uncut ore
I have cast and dash open
uncut ore
cuz you might get sea storm
whats that?
undone hornet
Is there even a remotely consistent way to get legends/duos
half zephyr
the duo between zeus & poseidon
brazen lagoon
Not really no
uncut ore
and "might" is a strong word
uncut ore
Is there even a remotely consistent way to get legends/duos
yeah he gets me
brazen lagoon
God's legacy does help but not too much
half zephyr
makes it so lightning strikes when you knock back enemies
uncut ore
odds might aswell be 0
brazen lagoon
It mostly comes down to getting the right boons quickly and praying to rngesus that you get it
uncut ore
I think athena is basically a must tho
half zephyr
I always get the duos I aim for >.<
half zephyr
well, so far I have then
uncut ore
that dash 🤤
half zephyr
athena dash is just so boring
uncut ore
what why is he smiling when drooling
uncut ore
athena dash is just so boring
but its basically required
uncut ore
well I do
half zephyr
not unless it's the last thing offered & I need a dash
status dashes are my thing - and on gun it's either tidal or status
uncut ore
I should get used to throwing special when im reloading
esp if im gonna play without zag aspect
not that thats gonna happen anytime soon 😦
half zephyr
I want to be long distance with gun so having the dash that knocks enemies away is nice
plus it deals very nice dmg
brazen lagoon
I like getting up close and personal
uncut ore
I like getting up close and personal
with the gun?
half zephyr
I always end up doing that with the gun too, but I really want some distance
uncut ore
unless theres a shotgun daedalus hammer upgrade im not aware of
brazen lagoon
See the fear in your enemies' eyes before you kill them or something
brazen lagoon
with the gun?
Yes
uncut ore
I always end up doing that with the gun too, but I really want some distance
gun's range really isnt that big tbh
I mean
half zephyr
gun's range really isnt that big tbh
seeking bullets
uncut ore
you cant be a sniper
uncut ore
seeking bullets
oh right forgot
half zephyr
brazen lagoon
I just like getting close to enemies in general
half zephyr
plus I have auto aim
brazen lagoon
Not too concerned with taking damage
uncut ore
wow im getting a new hidden aspect like every run
now chaos is giving me beowulf
something with a serpent
half zephyr
It's pretty easy after you get GY
there's just a couple that's got special requirements
like malphon
malphon is so rng
half zephyr
I'm lucky in that I just run into him all the time
I miss seeing other minibosses
I enter a miniboss chamber & it's never anyone else these days 
brazen lagoon
Don't really like seeing asterius as a mini boss all too much tbh
Butterfly ball is much quicker
half zephyr
exactly!
half zephyr
I want butterfly ball QQ
uncut ore
ill take poseidon
and ill do athena keepsake to get the dash
btw
why does alecto call zag redblood
like
brazen lagoon
His blood is red
uncut ore
wouldnt all the other gods also have a red blood?
brazen lagoon
No
uncut ore
His blood is red
oh thanks didnt relize that
brazen lagoon
God's bleed ichor
brazen lagoon
He bleeds blood
uncut ore
God's bleed ichor
ohhh right forgot
brazen lagoon
Do you want me to spoil why
uncut ore
wait but his parents are both gods right?
brazen lagoon
Ye
uncut ore
I dont want no spoilers
brazen lagoon
It's more of what zag is the god of
uncut ore
oh
fringe elbow
heheh i got that part yesterday
half zephyr
It's more of what zag is the god of
suspected really
brazen lagoon
I think it's pretty safe to say that zag is the god of what he's speculated to be
Fits him pretty well
half zephyr
I like him as being what he's depicted as in the myths
also fits really well
really really well
uncut ore
I think it's pretty safe to say that zag is the god of what he's speculated to b...
bruh I cant imagine what hes god of
maybe god of rebelious teens?
xd
brazen lagoon
Put some thought into it
uncut ore
I mean if he bleads he might be the god of blood
but that seems like ares's job
so idk
brazen lagoon
Pretty obvious once you figure it out
half zephyr
ares is god of war
uncut ore
ares is god of war
yeah but blood seems like part of his job title
half zephyr
he's pretty straightforward
uncut ore
perseverence?
cus he tried to escape hell again and again
brazen lagoon
Greek hell
half zephyr
unless they got a special deal w olympus
half zephyr
Greek hell
but it was just the realm of the dead
zag might call it hell but he's also the epitome of rebellious teen atm
brazen lagoon
Most of the dead end up in what is essentially hell anyways
But I think this is just pedantics
uncut ore
wow its pretty interesting that probably roughly 90% of people on this server are men but in #bot-commands like half of the rank assignments are she/her
brazen lagoon
Call it whatever you want
uncut ore
I guess its just women who are tired of being refered to as a man accidentaly
hardy kernel
I mean okay
uncut ore
Most of the dead end up in what is essentially hell anyways
as in asphodel?
uncut ore
but most dead people end up there
half zephyr
used to look different
half zephyr
the worse off places of the underworld ye
elysium is the better part where the heroes went
brazen lagoon
Elysium is basically heaven
uncut ore
ayy basically perfect run
hardy kernel
That don't make sense to me
uncut ore
I got athena dash
and aphrodite-poseidon-zeus-ares
I hope I get a lot of duos
now all my slots are full
hardy kernel
Why is heaven also in the underworld
half zephyr
Elysium is basically heaven
and olympus is bleghy ultra heaven*
half zephyr
Why is heaven also in the underworld
it's not heaven
heaven is a more christian concept I guess?
hardy kernel
I mean yeah
half zephyr
it's what would be compared to heaven using todays terminology
hardy kernel
I'm an atheist lol so I don't really know
half zephyr
the best part of the underworld where all is green & lush, you get all the food & drink you want
uncut ore
its so weird that heaven exists in christianity
half zephyr
and you can fight to your hearts content
uncut ore
like in greek myth I understand
its kind of a carpe diem
do whatever you want now
cus in hell you literally cant
but like in christianity
why would I do anything now
half zephyr
..?
uncut ore
apart from being just virtuos enough to enter heaven
if I can spend literally infinity time in heaven doing heaven things?
half zephyr
you do know that it's different now, from back then
it was the idea that there might be a better place
hardy kernel
Greek mythology is so interesting to me
half zephyr
life wasn't all good before
uncut ore
it was the idea that there might be a better place
if you know for a fact heaven exists
hardy kernel
Nobody does
half zephyr
if you know for a fact heaven exists
that's how all religions work!
uncut ore
then why do anything actually useful in this world
half zephyr
ask the religious
uncut ore
apart from like the minimum you need to enter heaven
hardy kernel
They believe places like that exist, but no one actually knows for sure
uncut ore
ok
its so great that hermes is garuanteed
like
+1 or +2 dashes
is such a nice thing to have
uncut ore
cus like
esp with athena dash
I can stay entirely invincible for almost 4 seconds
while literally moving to the other side of the map
brazen lagoon
Extra dashes with athena dash is pretty good yeah
hardy kernel
I just did a dem aspect merciful end run
half zephyr
but athena is so boring
hardy kernel
ares attack athena dash
hardy kernel
but athena is so boring
yeah
half zephyr
so does high dps
fringe elbow
i still find myself starting with athena most times just cus its such a safety net
hardy kernel
she's only useful for a few things
brazen lagoon
so does high dps
Her dps isn't terrible by any means
hardy kernel
Does it do anything for your build? Besides dash ofc
brazen lagoon
Just isn't as high as some others
uncut ore
nooo
brazen lagoon
It relieves the stress of having to dodge attacks and stuff
fringe elbow
i like her cast too, not what i hope for but im not upset if i end up with it
uncut ore
I missed the aphro aid 😭
hardy kernel
I hate "weak" but aphro has the most dps
brazen lagoon
there's so many more fun options
Fair point
half zephyr
I hate "weak" but aphro has the most dps
weak is nice when you need status for PS
uncut ore
It relieves the stress of having to dodge attacks and stuff
and merciful end is like objectively best
brazen lagoon
Ehhhh
half zephyr
I don't like ME
uncut ore
I do
hardy kernel
weak is nice when you need status for PS
I dont use ps much
uncut ore
I got it only once
half zephyr
I wanna stack my doom & get delay
uncut ore
but its really fun
brazen lagoon
Sure it's good but it's not objectively the best
uncut ore
I wanna stack my doom & get delay
I dont understand how to stack doom
fringe elbow
i cant remember what these skills do from their names lol
hardy kernel
it's so good
half zephyr
I dont use ps much
I only use PS
uncut ore
Sure it's good but it's not objectively the best
yeah I was exxagerating
half zephyr
I dont understand how to stack doom
it's a boon
half zephyr
you get it & you can apply doom as many times you want on the same enemy
brazen lagoon
Heart rend is great
half zephyr
until it triggers
hardy kernel
sea storm maybe? Heart rend is good as well.
hardy kernel
but ME is really good tho
half zephyr
I love poseidon/zeus on beyblade
uncut ore
you get it & you can apply doom as many times you want on the same enemy
wait what
brazen lagoon
Me is great for going fast
half zephyr
you cant doom twice the same enemy?
not without the extra boon
hardy kernel
I did it with fists with +2 dashes and it was so op
brazen lagoon
Doom chiron is great with dire
hardy kernel
but stacking doom only adds a 12 damage increase or something per doom hit
uncut ore
im swapping to acorn for elysium
hardy kernel
It doesn't actually stack
brazen lagoon
I'd imagine chiron ME with athena attack and doom special would be cracked
brazen lagoon
Especially with dire and the other one
half zephyr
hi lyte
unborn remnant
hello :)
half zephyr
Especially with dire and the other one
ye, there it could be nice to have ME - alas I don't do the bow 
hardy kernel
It adds 12 damage per hit with attack on doom also I find myself killing enemies before the doom hits
brazen lagoon
And I don't use chiron
hardy kernel
I love Chiron
brazen lagoon
Actually haven't done an ME build in a while
half zephyr
It adds 12 damage per hit with attack on doom also I find myself killing enemies...
it's very nice on bosses
brazen lagoon
Mostly because I haven't played in a while
And also the fact that ME is incredibly annoying to get
half zephyr
I just don't like ME
hardy kernel
why not?
brazen lagoon
ME is great for going fast
hardy kernel
just asking
brazen lagoon
That's why you'll see most speedruns with fists use ME
hardy kernel
but me does more damage?
half zephyr
being forced to get athena boon is eh
I want the other status effects more
exposed is just
hardy kernel
okay
brazen lagoon
I mean fair enough
hardy kernel
whatever floats your boat
brazen lagoon
People have incredibly varying opinions on basically every combat mechanic in the game
half zephyr
ye
hardy kernel
that's fine
brazen lagoon
What I like about this game is that everyone has a different opinion on everything
hardy kernel
Yeah
uncut ore
question: would you pick a legendary boon that lets you pick 2 buffs per boon, but you cant get any duos?
or other legendaries
brazen lagoon
What does that even mean
uncut ore
What does that even mean
every time you get a boon
it offers you 3 things
and you have to pick 1
so you get to pick 2
but you dont get any duos
brazen lagoon
I do not understand what you are saying
half zephyr
he's making up an imaginary legendary
brazen lagoon
Like you get two boons per pick?
uncut ore
he's making up an imaginary legendary
yeah
uncut ore
Like you get two boons per pick?
yes
half zephyr
that would let you chose 2 boons pr pick
brazen lagoon
I don't think giving up duos is worth it
half zephyr
but you never get any other legendary or a duo
brazen lagoon
Like at all
undone hornet
They're asking about a hypothetical that lets you grab 2 boons every time but duos can't haappen
It seems neat but yeah duos slap hard
half zephyr
and that's just no
uncut ore
also I guess if you already have duos they get disabled
half zephyr
duo forever
unborn remnant
People have incredibly varying opinions on basically every combat mechanic in th...
Thats the beauty of it
hardy kernel
Most of the time runs focus on getting a duo imo
brazen lagoon
Thats the beauty of it
Like there are tons of people that love the shield here and I just do not like it
half zephyr
or me w the bow
uncut ore
People have incredibly varying opinions on basically every combat mechanic in th...
why of course gun and bow are the worst weapons and zag aspects are the best
half zephyr
uncut ore
more like a chaos boon curse
but its permanent
hardy kernel
But see, that's just objectively incorrect
half zephyr
but its permanent
ye, which makes it even worse
brazen lagoon
why of course gun and bow are the worst weapons and zag aspects are the best
You're allowed opinions on stuff but yours is dumb and cringe so I refuse to accept it
uncut ore
ye, which makes it even worse
honestly you get like at most 2 duos per run
half zephyr
honestly you get like at most 2 duos per run
nope
uncut ore
and theyre usually some random crap
half zephyr
nope
uncut ore
id rather have DOUBLE the boons
hardy kernel
I got five duos three runs ago lol
uncut ore
2x
half zephyr
I get exactly the ones I'm after
brazen lagoon
Have you actually tried like going for duos that help you
hardy kernel
yeah
half zephyr
and it's 2-5 for me every run
uncut ore
Have you actually tried like going for duos that help you
oh my god literally every run
brazen lagoon
Instead of just going for random duos that do nothing
unborn remnant
Like there are tons of people that love the shield here and I just do not like i...
perfectly valid take
that's me with spear
i just dont get it
hardy kernel
i just dont get it
yeah same
uncut ore
I sometimes pick boons just because they unlock duos
unborn remnant
it doesnt feel as good to use
uncut ore
even tho theyre totally useless
half zephyr
but is it the right duos
brazen lagoon
That's why you're getting the useless duos dingus
hardy kernel
even tho theyre totally useless
what duos do you like/go for
half zephyr
cuz it doesn't sound like you are making the right choices
brazen lagoon
If you're taking useless boons purely for the sake of getting duos of course the duos you get will not benefit you
half zephyr
you always choose athena dash, so you always aim for an athena duo?
hardy kernel
athena duos suck imo
half zephyr
not the best ye
half zephyr
I think I just don't like anything that relies on deflect
manic moat
yea stuff like unshakeable mettle or sweet nectar is pretty useless
brazen lagoon
Sweet nectar isn't even athena
manic moat
in general, bad duo boons
hardy kernel
I got to the point in the game where ||Theseus and Asterius are doing combo attacks||||Cause they made up||
brazen lagoon
Sweet nectar isn't that bad
manic moat
ooh stubborn roots yea that sucks
unless stuborn defiance
and tf is calculated risk
hardy kernel
Stubborn roots is good for beginners
brazen lagoon
Stubborn roots kinda doodoo unless you have SD on
manic moat
Stubborn roots is good for beginners
yes but beginners aren't getting a lot of duo boons anyways because they dont have mirror upgrades
half zephyr
I got to the point in the game where ||Theseus and Asterius are doing combo atta...
||Friendship power makeup GO! In the name of the Moon I shall defeat you, you evil blackguard!"||
hardy kernel
||Friendship power makeup GO! In the name of the Moon I shall defeat you, you ev...
lmao
My brother-in-law just started playing hades and he won because of SR
He just ran away from hades at the end of the fight
half zephyr
hardy kernel
He wanted to win lol
he had died to hades like 10 times
I did my hundredth attempt a couple of days ago
I'm only 100 hours into the game
manic moat
nice
hardy kernel
But it's so much fun
manic moat
yes
hardy kernel
My first roguelike actually
brazen lagoon
The game just doesn't get old
manic moat
same
hardy kernel
The game just doesn't get old
yeah
i'm dreading the day when it does
i hope it doesn't
dusk fern
brazen lagoon
I've stopped playing it now but mostly because I've basically done everything there is to do and I have other games to play
But I did manage over 400 hours before I stopped
half zephyr
good luck
amber kraken
Ugh. Thesius is actually easier with his heat thing up because at least he doesnt have that annoying shield
hardy kernel
I hate how he calls us a coward when the way I fight him isn't cowardly and he just hides behind his shield
brazen lagoon
I haven't even fully 100% the game yet tbh
half zephyr
I hate how he calls us a coward when the way I fight him isn't cowardly and he j...
he has his own version of reality, ok
brazen lagoon
There's still badges I haven't gotten
amber kraken
I actually died twice cause I'm trying to do all weapons with no heat first and theres no way to hit him from behind with the bow without putting myself at risk
half zephyr
I actually died twice cause I'm trying to do all weapons with no heat first and ...
dashing
high island
New Hades Monthly Challenge is up and pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat, for anyone who's interested.
brazen lagoon
I've gotten all the bounties I can
half zephyr
get a nice dash & just dash him in
brazen lagoon
New Hades Monthly Challenge is up and pinned in <#520688402958516254>, for anyon...
It's an artemis themed one as well
half zephyr
and I'm sure there's a bow way to do it too
brazen lagoon
Have fun
hardy kernel
New Hades Monthly Challenge is up and pinned in <#520688402958516254>, for anyon...
I'm to bad for that lol
half zephyr
but I suck with the bow so dash it is for me
brazen lagoon
I'm to bad for that lol
The monthly challenges don't require an insane amount of skill
But this one is a bit of a challenge
hardy kernel
I can barely do 32 heat lol
brazen lagoon
You'll get there eventually
high island
You never know that! m sure there are a lot of people who can help you with it. 
half zephyr
I can't submit runs anyways so I just ignore the challenges
half zephyr
mhmm
high island
You don't need a video for the Monthly Challenges.
half zephyr
no way I'm stopping to record a video every 30 seconds
half zephyr
oh you too?
yup
brazen lagoon
You can just submit a victory screen
high island
Just a screenshot of your victory screen is fine.
half zephyr
should say that somewhere on the challenge then
high island
Or a photo with your phone if that works better for you.
half zephyr
"submit your run" makes it feel like you need the whole run
hardy kernel
How do we get a confirmed hazard bomb
half zephyr
think that was the barrel roll challenge so I wasn't too interested in it anyways
high island
Your boons and hammers will show on the victory screen.
half zephyr
but cool, might do one a day in the future then
high island
The "Do a barrel roll!" challenge also only requires a screenshot or video.
half zephyr
think the question was how to guarantee that you get the hammer during your run
half zephyr
The "Do a barrel roll!" challenge also only requires a screenshot *or* video.
no, I meant the challenge itself was too extreme for me so I didn't look closely at what the rest said
high island
Ah I see.
half zephyr
I was a bit scared by what the challenge was
hardy kernel
Is it just rng
high island
Yeah, that one's a special case, but it did start at 0 Heat.
hardy kernel
Do you just have to get lucky with everything?
half zephyr
that's usually how the game goes
high island
@hardy kernel there's no way to guarantee a specific hammer upgrade, but there are some ways to improve your odds a bit. And there are hammer upgrades that can't be combined with Hazard Bomb, so you'd want to look out for that.
brazen lagoon
If you get hazard bomb in styx it still counts right
Like you dont have to get hazard bomb right off the bat
high island
Yes.
brazen lagoon
Cool
hardy kernel
ok! I'll definitely try it out! It's not a competiton though right? It's just to see who can do it?
high island
Yeah!
hardy kernel
Great! Do we need to use any other pacts?
hardy kernel
Ok great! Thanks so much!
high island
You can also still find all of our previous challenges on the spreadsheet if you want to give those a try.
hardy kernel
Will do! 
high island
Good luck!
hardy kernel
Thanks!
hardy kernel
@half zephyr Do you know the easiest way to submit an image from switch to discord?
half zephyr
<@!162307945911025664> Do you know the easiest way to submit an image from swit...
I just import the image from the memory card >.>
But like, there’s options if you just look at the image on your switch
You can send to smart device & post.. think to Twitter?
Idk, I haven’t ever used the post feature
dusky wedge
Twitter and Facebook
hardy kernel
Haven't used facebook in ages
signal aspen
whoops
dusky wedge
Same
half zephyr
You can scan the image with a qr code
Or smth
Gotta connect the smart device at least via qr code
hardy kernel
cool thanks!
dusky wedge
I’m baffled at how the Switch can’t just Bluetooth it to my phone, but maybe that’s just me
unborn remnant
Thats too easy for them to do
dusky wedge
Oh, it has Bluetooth, but only for controllers
hardy kernel
controllers have bluetooth functionality
but the console itself doesn't?
like why not
dusky wedge
Thats too easy for them to do
I bet the Switch Pro gonna have that as a new feature lmao
half zephyr
We’re getting sidetracked again now though
hardy kernel
So I'm not blowing another 400 probably
hardy kernel
We’re getting sidetracked again now though <:hehe:744708898656878692>
yeah I guess you're right
dusky wedge
To the gen-chat!
weak spruce
skelly trying to unlock hidden aspects made me lol
uncut ore
mental note: the exit to the asterius arena is on the right
wtf always the exist just switches sides
but the 1 time I try to notice it
its the same
the game is playing tricks with me
gaunt ridge
huh
signal aspen
bruh
uncut ore
btw how is the poetry that petrcoles reads called
signal aspen
its literally a golden door
uncut ore
no
like
in the cutscene where asterius leaves
its usually opposite of where the door actually is
btw
why cant I just kiss the styx and replenish all my dds?
what does "kiss of styx" even mean
signal aspen
idk
kiss of styx premium replenishes all your DDs
and you have to get it from pat
uncut ore
or is it literally a kiss from the styx
signal aspen
it might be blood
uncut ore
made of something that you shouldnt drink
but its op af
signal aspen
idk im not into greek mythology
uncut ore
it might be blood
magic blood then
blood juice
holy
I didnt get any duos for the entire run
and now I got 2 duos in a row
tho tbh those are 2 pretty eh duos
signal aspen
what are they
uncut ore
athena and aphrodite and poseidon and ares
I got both of them once, athena and aphrodite is really useless and poseidon and ares is nice
high island
mental note: the exit to the asterius arena is on the right
All chamber layouts have a mirror version except for shops, bosses, and friend rooms. You can find all the layouts here. https://www.hades-guides.ovh/index.php/chamber-layout/
signal aspen
athena and aphros duo is actually pretty good
uncut ore
well
signal aspen
it can deal a ton of damage
uncut ore
I dont have a cast build
signal aspen
ok
uncut ore
half zephyr
I had a build once that made it great
uncut ore
how do we have so little information on zag
half zephyr
But it’s so long ago I can’t remember what I had
uncut ore
and damn orpheus got trolled so hard
half zephyr
how do we have so little information on zag
Cuz he wasn’t a big character in mythology
uncut ore
that zag is dio
half zephyr
Mostly focused on the olympians
cerulean ferry
Yeah, just takes a bit
uncut ore
also euridice gave me the notes for good riddance
half zephyr
Then give them to Orpheus
uncut ore
would have been really nice if you could actually see them and like print them
as a PDF
to play them
signal aspen
you have a lyre?
half zephyr
If you google it I’m sure you’ll find them
uncut ore
If you google it I’m sure you’ll find them
yeah but it would be nice if you could like actually see them ingame
half zephyr
Eh
signal aspen
what
uncut ore
still
tight cave
Speaking of, not sure if you knew but Darren Korb actually made a guitar tutorial for Good Riddance with tabs https://youtu.be/dnq8dZYH_tg
tight cave
Yeah, they're surprisingly open with sharing sheet music and stuff. I think there's also another video (not on the Supergiant page) with the sheet music for 'On the Coast' too.
(Oddly enough also how I learned the typical 'Ancient Greek/Egyptian' reed-y instrument is an English Horn, or at least that's the closest modern instrument)
uncut ore
wait what does aphro's aid do exactly?
ive seen it sometimes 1shot bosses and sometimes do basically nothing
say just now I used it on asterius and it did literally 1 damage
but beforehand it 1shot lernie
weak spruce
question .. is it possible to get the sack on the first chamber in styx
never happened to me
cerulean ferry
Nope
uncut ore
theseus is so bad I can literally open my boonlist in the fight
signal aspen
wait what does aphro's aid do exactly?
it charms enemies(makes them fight for you)
uncut ore
it says "fires a projectile that influcts charm" or smth like that
signal aspen
it is useful against bosses because it can stun them
uncut ore
it charms enemies(makes them fight for you)
doesnt it deal a ton of damage too?
and its for like 1 second
signal aspen
and at full charge it deals at least 2000 damage
gaunt ridge
charm merely stuns bosses i think?
uncut ore
and at full charge it deals at least 2000 damage
yeah it dealt 1 to asterius
signal aspen
probably because he was extremely weak
uncut ore
it did 1509 to theseus
desert meadow
If not charged, it only charms the target, if fully charged, it does 2500 damage plus charming them.
uncut ore
probably because he was extremely weak
nope, he was on half hp
signal aspen
probably because he was extremely weak
uncut ore
If not charged, it only charms the target, if fully charged, it does 2500 damage...
it was fully charged and it did 1509
signal aspen
he was one damage away from going invulnerable
desert meadow
You know how bosses pull up those shields?
That can stop you from getting the full hit worth of damage
It'll just apply till that limit
signal aspen
it was fully charged and it did 1509
if it doesnt deal 2500 damage then they had less than 2500 health
signal aspen
is he in his second phase now
uncut ore
btw
wtf
theseus just acknowleged the fact
that he lost to me once
bruh isnt he in some alternate dimension where he never loses?
desert meadow
?
signal aspen
nah
desert meadow
He's as real and in-universe as Zag is
amber kraken
I legit got 1 boon in my run
fringe elbow
i guess you found an extremely specific instance that literally nobody else even among the people who have 100%’d this game multiple times have found
amber kraken
Like I keep getting everything but boons
quaint pagoda
Finally got the buttefly achievement
fringe elbow
best hammer for fists?
signal aspen
long knuckle is good because of the short range
fringe elbow
is draining cutter actually any good? i find i dont notice much of a difference when i take it
signal aspen
and the dash explosion special is great for dem
signal aspen
is draining cutter actually any good? i find i dont notice much of a difference ...
pretty sure that heals you
desert meadow
Finally got the buttefly achievement
Congrats!
fringe elbow
yeah i know i mean i dont notice many heals lol
quaint pagoda
2-3 runs and I'm done with achievements
fringe elbow
nothing
i dont think its bad
i just dont notice much of a difference when i use it
signal aspen
oh ok
desert meadow
It's only 2% health per heal, maybe that's why
signal aspen
2%
fringe elbow
would it stack with aphro/demeter any heart rewards are worth more?
fringe elbow
ah right
half zephyr
is draining cutter actually any good? i find i dont notice much of a difference ...
You have to kill with the special for it to trigger if I don’t remember the text wrong
half zephyr
So if you don’t end it with the special it doesn’t do anything
grand crystal
not very worth it
fringe elbow
yeah, maybe i need to give it another go sometime
just took the aoe
poseidon’s wall slam is fun with magnet fists
just keep pulling them into a barrier over and over lol
fringe elbow
it makes the tiny vermin pretty easy
if you can just group everything on one side of the gap and keep pulling them all
fringe elbow
i always make it right to the end of those boss rooms without damage and then step on a trap 2 seconds before finishing it. EVERY DANG TIME
half zephyr
grand crystal
since i never got it before(at least not much) so i didnt know how to fight it
grand crystal
i always make it right to the end of those boss rooms without damage and then st...
we all do, it happens to the best of us
signal aspen
i always make it right to the end of those boss rooms without damage and then st...
its called new player syndrome
every body has it
but then they learn
and it goes away
grand crystal
i did a guan yu run last night and i only took damage once
uncut ore
the gun is cursed
fringe elbow
*blessed
signal aspen
yes
uncut ore
ugh
runic sparrow
I love that in the codex, it's like "I pray that mortals never figure out how to recreate this weapon" and I"m like "Uuhhhhh, yeah about that, my guy."
fringe elbow
yep
half zephyr
Well
grand crystal
I see you’re no longer 40
yeaaa im 45 now
half zephyr
At least we’re not quite at hidden aspect level yet
grand crystal
i did a 45 heat run with rama last night and did it first try >:3
fringe elbow
nobody better run up on me while i got this aspect of eris on my belt 😤💯 come find out
half zephyr
Glad someone can use it
uncut ore
wait
runic sparrow
I'm surprised he doesn't comment on "Aspect of Hades"
uncut ore
if I died like 50 times
and I turn on godmode now
do I get +100% more hp?
what exactly does it do?
signal aspen
nah
runic sparrow
- I don't think so
- It caps out at 80% damage reduction
fringe elbow
it starts whenever you turn it on
signal aspen
20% damage reduction
runic sparrow
yeah, it's initially just a small boost
cerulean ferry
And every time you die it adds 2%
signal aspen
if you turn it on for the first time it starts at 20%
runic sparrow
It doesn't retroactively add it
cerulean ferry
It doesn't
runic sparrow
only deaths with it enable count, I think
signal aspen
if you turn it on for the first time it starts at 20%
fringe elbow
please see above responses
uncut ore
ok
signal aspen
what about that sentence didnt make sense
uncut ore
is there something stopping me from feeding 30 times?
runic sparrow
though it si funny to die in the first couple of rooms
half zephyr
Just use it until you hit that point where you don’t die as often
rich acorn
Just watched the 60 heat wold record run vid, absolutely bonkers.
brisk trail
rammaa boww
fringe elbow
i dont even understand how its possible lmao
runic sparrow
Die in the first couple of rooms, and Zag emerges from the pool and goes ||"I, uh, forgot something..."||
fringe elbow
lmao
brisk trail
i jus upgraded rama bow and used it and I understand the hype
runic sparrow
And he'll do this a few times, I believe
brisk trail
zaggg ❤️
rich acorn
The game looked like it was in fast motion bc of how good they were playing and forced overtime
runic sparrow
Even hypnos comments, and is all ||"Back already? You almost made it all the way to the surface last time, and now you're barely out the front door! What gives?"||
fringe elbow
i like all the extremely specific dialogue triggers
runic sparrow
I know, right?
it's like, the devs didn't have to give us dialogue for all these super niche circumstances
fringe elbow
they did that for us
rich acorn
i like all the extremely specific dialogue triggers
Lol like one time meg said that I couldn’t beat her with no night talent, I did, and then she was super salty about it
runic sparrow
HAH
fringe elbow
i was wondering if shed say something if you did that after, lmao
for me i was just like “yeah, youre probably right” lol
runic sparrow
Hermes also comments if you turn off the timer after having it on for a while
rich acorn
Sometimes I skip his dialogue and he’s like “oh -ok!”
fringe elbow
hermes comments on every move i make, hes all knowing
cerulean ferry
The true mastermind
fringe elbow
“hey boss! heard you were 0.3746x faster this time than before!”
rich acorn
Knows even more than Chaos
fringe elbow
he even knows || that persephone is back ||
rich acorn
Imagine needing to speak through a shield, couldn’t be Hermes
runic sparrow
I mean I think he's one of the ones that knows in the first place
fringe elbow
hes god of trickery too right?
fringe elbow
i guess he’s more intimately acquainted with the underworld than most of the rest since he || works with charon ||
rich acorn
*His professional associate
eternal shoal
best emote of all time ngl
surreal condor
Yes
signal aspen
this comes second
surreal condor
Although I'm a bit bitter about being friend zoned by her
signal aspen
lmao
surreal condor
But oh well, she gave me a LOT of ambrosia
amber kraken
I hope the good shade is getting some good coin from betting on Zagreous all the time with all my victories
half zephyr
Although I'm a bit bitter about being friend zoned by her
I see it less as friend zone & more like platonic soul mates
charred anchor
i wasnt even into her and i still got friendzoned
half zephyr
charred anchor
"friends for all eternity" is rly cute tho
signal aspen
I hope the good shade is getting some good coin from betting on Zagreous all the...
yeah
shades dont bet on me even though i have a 170 win streak
surreal condor
I hope the good shade is getting some good coin from betting on Zagreous all the...
Me too, I wish we could gift them
drifting parrot
Zagreus for street fighter
dusky wedge
So I got like 10 bloods right now with nothing more to spend it on..
Broker’s deal of the day to sell these bloods also don’t show up that often
weak spruce
no aspects left to get ?
dusky wedge
Yep, all maxed out
high island
Our new Hades Monthly Challenge is pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat if any of you want to give it a try.
amber kraken
How are yall so efficient at getting blood and ambrosia and such. I hardly ever come by one
dusky wedge
How are yall so efficient at getting blood and ambrosia and such. I hardly ever ...
These are dropped by the big bosses per run, per weapon
grand crystal
2-3 a run
dusky wedge
There are also something akin to harder difficulty settings down the line you can unlock later for more of these
grand crystal
^^yea being able to mess with heat lets you get it very quickly
amber kraken
Yea but thing is I'm having troubles with single full run xD
dusky wedge
You’ll get there, buddy
grand crystal
and if you ever have questions or want tips we are more than happy to answer :3
dusky wedge
If you’re still very early, just focus on the keepsakes for now
grand crystal
i spend too much damn time in this server
opal oar
can you not get the funny surface deaths anymore?
dusky wedge
Keepsakes helps a lot for that first win
grand crystal
can you not get the funny surface deaths anymore?
no you can
dusky wedge
can you not get the funny surface deaths anymore?
Random after some time
grand crystal
you always get funny surface deaths after you get mom back
but some arent as funny
like the narrator saying "lets just say he died"
thats very underwhelming
opal oar
I didn't, I just get "taken by the styx" and the animation
dusky wedge
At some point, you get a bye bye, and there’s only repeating ones after that I think
grand crystal
narrator reads of a bit then you get the death animation
grand crystal
At some point, you get a bye bye, and there’s only repeating ones after that I t...
this was very sad to get ;w;
dusky wedge
I didn't, I just get "taken by the styx" and the animation
Yeah, that shouldn’t happen
dusky wedge
🤔
opal oar
I got one abt zag not being able to get all the way to the cottage
and one about hdeath being sometimes slow and sometimes abrupt
so i think it's just cycling through all the options and i haven't got any of the absurd ones yet
dusky wedge
this was very sad to get ;w;
Get Logan to record some more lmao
half zephyr
so i think it's just cycling through all the options and i haven't got any of th...
Ye, bad death rng
half zephyr
Some of them get real funny in context