h1-discussion

[half zephyr]

I'm not old - I'm fast

[runic sparrow]

been waiting for one of these

[half zephyr]

there's a difference

[untold geyser]

"talk to him" just means battle him and hope he mentions it?

[half zephyr]

[half zephyr]

pre battle banter

[grand crystal]

im not old either, im just a gamer

[untold geyser]

same for Zeus and Artemis? I need to do it twice?

for the bow and the rail

[runic sparrow]

Zeus might take a while

he's quite chatty

[half zephyr]

and I only call you grandpa cuz of the EA thing
and the whole "get off my lawn!" attitude you sometimes have

[weak spruce]

just beat ext. measures 4 and he dropped his weapon, am I supposed to do anything with this or do I just leave ?

[half zephyr]

leave

[untold geyser]

how many times do you need to talk to him?

[weak spruce]

thanks

[grand crystal]

wdym "get off my lawn vibe" ;w;

[half zephyr]

they sometimes just drop weapons

[half zephyr]

it's just this vibe you sometimes got

[grand crystal]

:<

[runic sparrow]

@untold geyser "A lot"

there's no set number

[untold geyser]

down to luck again?

[runic sparrow]

pretty much, yeah

[half zephyr]

[untold geyser]

man this game is confusing compared to JRPGs I'm used to playing

[runic sparrow]

best advice I can offer is to take his keepsake before a run

[half zephyr]

I can't really explain it sorry

[grand crystal]

hades isnt a jrpg :/

so you cant really compare

[runic sparrow]

force that first encounter with him. At least then you're guaranteed to see him once

[untold geyser]

that's what I mean

[grand crystal]

;w;

[half zephyr]

ye, very different playstyle

[runic sparrow]

Hades has a surprising amount of depth to it, despite being a roguelike

[half zephyr]

here you play, die, repeat

[untold geyser]

combat is amazing

[hardy kernel]

what's a good build for demeter fists?

[half zephyr]

get some other stuff happening in between

[untold geyser]

knowing what to do and how to plan is not

[grand crystal]

ok tbf most roguelikes are deep as hell, you just have to look into it

[grand crystal]

aphro/arte special

and like zeus attack is nice

[half zephyr]

Isaac..?

[grand crystal]

doesnt isaac have a lot of lore??

[half zephyr]

eeeeh

it's

eh

not that deep

[grand crystal]

ahh

well wizard of legend isnt deep either :/

but like gungeon and nuclear throne

and i think curse of the dead gods is also kinda deep

maybe

idk

[half zephyr]

I don't know when I'll get to play Hades again

sad

[grand crystal]

rip

i mean tbh i might just stop playing hades out of boredom

[half zephyr]

I'm busy abusing game mechanics in rf4s

[grand crystal]

lol

[half zephyr]

so I can't turn my switch off or exit the game

[grand crystal]

o-oh

[half zephyr]

I'm abusing the fact that no time moves while in the tutorial to grind 2 skills

[grand crystal]

lmao

well have fun with that

oh actually

[half zephyr]

I do.. not

[grand crystal]

whats a good 15$ game??

[half zephyr]

and being here makes me so sad cuz I see all fun Hades chat & I can't play

[grand crystal]

since im gonna buy some things, and lets move to #video-games

[half zephyr]

sure

[grand crystal]

damn

[rapid acorn]

Ok guys need some help here

Nvm ded chat

[grand crystal]

lol what do you need help on

[half zephyr]

we usually appear when someone speaks in here if you wait more then a few seconds

[rapid acorn]

Alright

So I’ve made it to Styx for the first time

[half zephyr]

fun

[rapid acorn]

I’m usin Eris rail

[half zephyr]

uhhuh

[grand crystal]

uhuh

[half zephyr]

jinx

[rapid acorn]

Got delta chamber

[grand crystal]

;w;

[rapid acorn]

Seeking shot

[grand crystal]

thats solid hammers ngl

[rapid acorn]

Crap ton of health

[half zephyr]

yes..?

[rapid acorn]

Duo boon on cast between Zeus and Artemis

Does lighting damage on cast

[grand crystal]

oh lightning rods??

that duo??

[rapid acorn]

My death defiance is still intact

Yea

[grand crystal]

uhuh

[rapid acorn]

Switched to Shelly tooth for this last bit

[half zephyr]

what is it you need help with?

[rapid acorn]

Tips

[grand crystal]

for the fight??

[rapid acorn]

On bearing through Styx

[grand crystal]

ahh

take the boss rooms first

they are much easier than the normal rooms

[rapid acorn]

Get dog food

[grand crystal]

sack can only show up at 2-5 hallways

[half zephyr]

just

avoid standing in the green

[rapid acorn]

Cool

[grand crystal]

^^that too

[half zephyr]

and take out satyrs fast

[rapid acorn]

Got it

[grand crystal]

snakestones can also shred you

[rapid acorn]

I got 320 health rn..

[grand crystal]

so try to kill them too

[half zephyr]

crystals have long range lasers

[rapid acorn]

So I got some wiggle room ish

[half zephyr]

and the bomb mice will get you if you let them stick around too long

[rapid acorn]

Got it

[half zephyr]

and never underestimate King Vermin should he appear

[grand crystal]

also know where the poison heal pools are

thats very important

and try your best to not step on traps since styx traps are mean

[rapid acorn]

Poison heal is poison but healing?

Or just poison

[half zephyr]

just antidote

no heal

[grand crystal]

nono i mean poison antidote

[rapid acorn]

Ah

[grand crystal]

my bad on wording

[rapid acorn]

Np

[trail otter]

is there some sort of anti-chese system in hades?

[grand crystal]

wdym krissy

[rapid acorn]

For getting the game 4 days ago an almost breakout isn’t too bad I’d say

[trail otter]

i killed the same witch 6 times but when i went for the others it stopped spawning

[grand crystal]

yea not bad at all asmo :3

[half zephyr]

it's not the same witch

[trail otter]

you sure?

[grand crystal]

thats just how the game spawns be, its a bunch of diff witches

[half zephyr]

just same spawn point

[grand crystal]

in the same area

[trail otter]

oh ok then

[half zephyr]

eventually you exhaust the spawn pool in that area

[trail otter]

i see

[grand crystal]

and with js3 those types of rooms can take forever

[rapid acorn]

Just ran into what I think is king rat

God dang my health bad just went from 320 to 20

[grand crystal]

lol the boss health bar and everything??

[half zephyr]

mhmm

[rapid acorn]

That rat is thicc

[grand crystal]

king vermin is very funny

[half zephyr]

never underestimate Tiny Vermin aka King Vermin

[rapid acorn]

Tiny

That dude is thiccer than a soccer mom

[half zephyr]

oh

[grand crystal]

i-

ok ig

[half zephyr]

not King Vermin then

just the big rat

[grand crystal]

^^yeaa

[rapid acorn]

Oh

Well then my bad

[half zephyr]

big rat isn't special

King Vermin has Vermin in the name

[grand crystal]

yea big rat is just big rat

[rapid acorn]

XD

So should I still do the other boss room?

[grand crystal]

yea

[rapid acorn]

Ok

[half zephyr]

up to you in the end

[grand crystal]

i would

[rapid acorn]

Here we goooo

[grand crystal]

boss rooms are easy

plus now the sack is in rotation

[half zephyr]

ye, it might be a sack room

[rapid acorn]

Death defiance go bye bye

Still got tooth

[grand crystal]

rip

[rapid acorn]

Too much damage

Holy crap

King rat

[half zephyr]

heheh

[grand crystal]

wait you actually got king vermin

lmao

[half zephyr]

now you know

[final trellis]

I need your guys's help deciding something so I'm at the point in the game where I can consistently beat Hades and I was wondering should I turn up the heat or should I turn the heat once I've beaten the main story

[grand crystal]

turn up heat for bounties

[half zephyr]

turn the heat whenever you want

[grand crystal]

there are super easy heats you can do too

[half zephyr]

it's there for you to have fun

[grand crystal]

^^yea dont listen to me much :3

im just talking from an optimal perspective

do what lets you have fun

[half zephyr]

I'm talking from the let's have fun perspective

some of them will be easier then others, but explore them & find out what you like

[grand crystal]

well imma make lunch

[hardy arrow]

@final trellis heat was put in the game so you can adjust it to keep the game fun. If you are having fun at 0 heat you don't need the pact of punishment.

[grand crystal]

so ill talk to yall later :3

[hardy arrow]

But you do get rewards for using it.

[rapid acorn]

1 hp and no more death defiances later

Used anvil and got rocket plus cluster

No seeking but that’s all good

[grand crystal]

oh thats super good

rocket and cluster are amazing for eris

but yea imma actually make lunch now :3

[rapid acorn]

Ok

[hardy arrow]

@rapid acorn if nothing else you made the template of Styx a more vermin-free place this run.

[rapid acorn]

For sure

Just died but dang that was far

[fringe elbow]

just got my fastest time

with bow

[rapid acorn]

Ambrosia for titan blood?

[half zephyr]

Up to you

[weak spruce]

dusa takes 2 ambrosias instead of 1 and it still fills 1 heart instead of 2

kinda annoy

[runic sparrow]

she takes ||TEN ambrosia to max out her gauge||

||1, then 2, then 3, then 4||

[grand crystal]

but then she does offer to give it back after you max it

although i wasnt a monster, i let her keep it

[runic sparrow]

Hold the 'dusa gentle like hamburger

= w=

[charred anchor]

What happens if u ask for it back

Cuz i didnt

[unborn ermine]

It's still fine

I didn't do it because I was at a point where I didn't need 10 ambrosia

Also because it felt mean

[narrow hemlock]

its not meant to be a bad choice either way you choose :T

[weak spruce]

oh it's fine if you can take it back

didn't know

makes sense I guess

[carmine ravine]

What a waste of ambrosias, just take it back for better use

[brisk trail]

Uhh

Should I spend all my titan blood

On spear

[grand crystal]

umm do you have other aspects??

like have you tried everything else??

since dumping it all into one weapon imo isnt a great idea

also considering you need to branch out to get spear hidden aspect which lets you get the other hidden aspects

[brisk trail]

I don’t really

Like all the other weapons

[grand crystal]

ahh

well i would still say unlock 5 aspects overall, so that you can have the spear hidden able to be unlocked

[brisk trail]

Ok

[grand crystal]

imo its best to unlock as many aspects as you can, and then dump into your most favorite and some aspects can change how they play so you might like an aspect more than the base weapon

some cheap aspects that are good are poseidon sword, zeus shield, hera bow, talos fists, and eris rail

those are all relatively cheap investments in each weapon so you can save on blood and still have experiments and flexibility with each weapon

and since you like spear, achilles aspect i feel like is super good

[brisk trail]

Bruh

I’m new

I beat like the 3rd boss

[grand crystal]

oh

well thats still how i feel about the weapon aspects

my bad if you didnt want that much ;w;

[desert meadow]

Achilles is best spear because I can not use the spear and just use casts.

[ionic trail]

Hey question

[brisk trail]

How many bosses are ther

[grand crystal]

hehe bow gang has gathered

[grand crystal]

4, one per area

[ionic trail]

||How many clears do you actually need to clear the "main quest"? ||

[gentle venture]

Technically 5 if you count the secret one.

[grand crystal]

but only 4 required bosses

[grand crystal]

10

[desert meadow]

^

[ionic trail]

Ah noted thanks

[brisk trail]

Wtf

How tf do u guys like bow

[grand crystal]

its super good

range

great dps

[desert meadow]

Because we find it fun?

[grand crystal]

aspects are some of the best in the game

[grand crystal]

that too

[ionic trail]

Hera bow with cast build

[grand crystal]

im on controller so its easier to play

[ionic trail]

10/10

[brisk trail]

The charging is so

Long

[grand crystal]

dash attacking lowers that time

[gentle venture]

Honestly, my favorite weapon is the fists

[grand crystal]

thats why bow players only ever dash attack

[desert meadow]

Remy, what weapon do you prefer as of now?

[brisk trail]

Uhh

Spear

[crisp crown]

I hated the basic bow when compared to other weapons, but with aspects it's actually my favourite now

[desert meadow]

Ah, so more melee

[ionic trail]

||rama|| aspect draw time is insanely long compared to normal draw time

[gentle venture]

I watched a broken bow build that was doing thousands of damage per hit

[grand crystal]

you get used to it :/

[gentle venture]

Killed minotaur and theseus in under a minute

[grand crystal]

rama does have some of the highest damage in the game tho i think

[grand crystal]

lol ive done that before

[desert meadow]

I need to remember to dash attack more ;-;

[brisk trail]

Spear is more then melee

[grand crystal]

spear special kinda meh tho without hammers/aspects imo

[desert meadow]

It’s mostly melee though

[gentle venture]

Yeah, i agree with that one

[weak spruce]

chiron

[brisk trail]

I like it’s charge

[gentle venture]

yes

[desert meadow]

Chiron and Hera are so good

[ionic trail]

||hidden|| spear is a trip

I loved it but the lack of health is a PAIN

You gotta go out of your way to increase your health

[desert meadow]

I tried it earlier, died to the final boss because of one dumb hit I took

[ionic trail]

Same

[grand crystal]

then theres me who already takes hearts over poms any day 😎

[desert meadow]

I was so close

[brisk trail]

So bow is best weapon

[gentle venture]

The rail took getting used to but was also the first weapon i beat the final boss with

[grand crystal]

not best, just really high up there

[ionic trail]

For us not for everyone

[desert meadow]

There really isn’t a best weapon, it’s whatever you prefer

[ionic trail]

We need a bow gang tag to be assigned by bot

Let's make it happen

Start a petition

[weak spruce]

all weapons are okay, it's a matter of which one you enjoy the most I think

[grand crystal]

lol if one of the mods are just lurking

[grand crystal]

for sure

[gentle venture]

the sword has serious potential depending on what hammer upgrades you can get

[weak spruce]

😦

[desert meadow]

Ehhh, sword has weird hammers

[grand crystal]

yea sword has a pretty high skill ceiling ngl

[desert meadow]

Half of them are just alright

[grand crystal]

^^true

[desert meadow]

And then there’s the darn chop one

[weak spruce]

for example I don't like the spear but not cuz it's bad it's because I don't like how it plays

[grand crystal]

double edge/nova are the only good ones

[ionic trail]

Me with rail

[desert meadow]

Flurry strike is decent

[grand crystal]

throws me off my rhythm

[gentle venture]

You’re saying it’s BAD, right?

[grand crystal]

piercing slash is meh

[ionic trail]

It's very slow but good damage

[grand crystal]

and hoarding is very situational

[desert meadow]

Yes

[grand crystal]

especially on nem sword 😎

[desert meadow]

Fair, but it could be worse

[grand crystal]

those crits get high

[ionic trail]

Trueee

[weak spruce]

rail is meh until I get the upgrade that shoots out 5 missiles

then it becomes fun

[gentle venture]

My favorite hammer upgrade for sword is the sword beams like in zelda

[ionic trail]

Bullet hell hades

[grand crystal]

rail is gross until you get aspects imo

[ionic trail]

I love that the devs found a way to put a gun in a game about greek mythology

[desert meadow]

I love how dumb the idea of a rail gun is, but I sure do suck at it

[gentle venture]

to be fair, we don’t know when it takes place. For all we know it’s 2021 in hell too

[ionic trail]

Mind = blown

[grand crystal]

its during the punic wars or smth

since there is mention of a war

[granite inlet]

You escape to Greece while Persephone is supposedly alive?

[ionic trail]

Unblown

Persophene is not a mortal though

[gentle venture]

Precisely.

[grand crystal]

she god :3

[gentle venture]

All the characters we see are dead or gods.
Shades don’t age. And gods don’t die.

[half zephyr]

But it’s in the myths

[ionic trail]

Who y'all's fav npc?

[half zephyr]

The story from the game

[grand crystal]

dusa, achilles, theseus, asterius, sisyphus, etc are all dead lol

[half zephyr]

So it’s Ancient Greece

[weak spruce]

lol finally got the option to buy the lyre after my 63rd run

[grand crystal]

pat is pretty epic

[desert meadow]

Cerberus

[gentle venture]

BUT the rail was said to be used against the titans if i remember correctly so i suppose my argument is ALSO countered right away

[grand crystal]

but are we talking like physically or like just in general

[ionic trail]

He's still being a hard ass on my sav

[half zephyr]

Ye, could still be Ancient Greece

[gentle venture]

Meg. Than. Easy.

[ionic trail]

Just telling me to go away

[half zephyr]

Don’t forget dusa

[grand crystal]

yea all the infernal arms were used by the olympians, hence the aspects like hera, poseidon, zeus, hestia, hades

[unborn remnant]

is dusa really dead?

[ionic trail]

Dusa is a sweetheart

[half zephyr]

Yes

[unborn remnant]

I thought she was a creation of the underworld

[grand crystal]

than is best boy and my husband and no one can change that

[unborn remnant]

or am I a dumbass

[grand crystal]

no she's dead

[half zephyr]

She’s a decapitated head

[unborn remnant]

fr?

[ionic trail]

Same

[unborn remnant]

you know

that makes more sense

[ionic trail]

Than simp

[desert meadow]

I love Dusa but I just want her to give me the dialogue to end the lounge prophecy

[grand crystal]

gorgons are a creation of athena

[half zephyr]

She’s Medusa

[grand crystal]

and dusa is a dead one

[gentle venture]

Also... is Dusa like.. THE Medusa? Just shortened? Or are we to assume that they are separate characters

[grand crystal]

maid dusa lol

[half zephyr]

Maid Dusa

[ionic trail]

Medusa but insecure

[grand crystal]

jinx

[half zephyr]

She has a new life now

[desert meadow]

It’s not confirmed she is but I would assume so

[half zephyr]

She won’t really talk about her old one but there’s enough hints in her dialogue

[ionic trail]

Also love hypnos

[hard heath]

I think she says she doesn't want to talk about her past or something

[brazen lagoon]

a lot of people are very surprised at the whole maid-dusa thing

[half zephyr]

Plus the whole Maid Dusa> Medusa thing

[hard heath]

But in certain she's the actually medusa

Oh god it's a pun

Lmao

Just realized that

[half zephyr]

Ofc it is

[ionic trail]

Ta dum tss

[desert meadow]

I love that it’s a pun

[hard heath]

Getting severe dad vibes

[half zephyr]

It’s spelling it out without spelling it out

Genius

[hard heath]

Hey I'm not smart

[gentle venture]

Also i noticed a detail- both Achilles and Dusa have marks of hades on a medal on their... body.

[ionic trail]

Without spoilers, will I ever get to know what's up with meg and her sisters?

[gentle venture]

Like what do you mean “whats up”

[half zephyr]

And Theseus has it on his belt

[hard heath]

I grabbed the hurt yourself special bomb thing with the gun that buffs you if you get hit by the bomb

[grand crystal]

no

[hard heath]

Deadest run ever

[grand crystal]

just that they exist and arent big fans of eachother

[ionic trail]

Like why she hates em and what's the story there

[grand crystal]

thats about as far as it goes

[half zephyr]

Siblings amirite

[ionic trail]

Dang

[desert meadow]

Rip, hazard bomb Eris

[half zephyr]

they have their moments

[grand crystal]

hazard bomb eris is funny

[half zephyr]

But ye, they just don’t get along

[desert meadow]

It is

[ionic trail]

Ye

[desert meadow]

But it’s dangerous

[hard heath]

Im very smart

Occasionally

[weak spruce]

shouldn't give you the option to get hazard bomb when you have eris on

[grand crystal]

mood

[desert meadow]

It’s like taking a no cast curse from Chaos on a cast build

[ionic trail]

300 iq play

[grand crystal]

but it does 😎

so why not take t

[brisk trail]

What do u play hades on

[half zephyr]

Switch

[grand crystal]

switch :3

[hard heath]

Pc

[ionic trail]

Y'all switch gang

I'm pc

[grand crystal]

you just have to use dash frames to not get hit by it

[gentle venture]

Switch

[hard heath]

I barely use my switch anymore

[desert meadow]

Steam here

[half zephyr]

Why does everyone tag me wrong these days

[hard heath]

i regret buying my switch tbh

[ionic trail]

Man I wanna get a switch now just so I can play hades and other indie games everywhere

[half zephyr]

Why?

[grand crystal]

lmao

[gentle venture]

wait wot

[brisk trail]

Hades is the first game I downloaded on pc

[grand crystal]

switch is epic wdym

[hard heath]

i don't play games on the go and most games i'd like to play aren't on switch

[ionic trail]

Ooof

[half zephyr]

Aah

[hard heath]

like i'd prefer ps4

[half zephyr]

Ye, not for you then

[unborn remnant]

How did medusa's personality change so dramatically

[grand crystal]

makes sense

[brisk trail]

That why I think u hate bow

[ionic trail]

Rip

[hard heath]

but hey it is what it is

[ionic trail]

F in chat

[hard heath]

i did get hyperlight drifter on there

[grand crystal]

i mean maybe she was never mean to begin with >:(

[hard heath]

like the games i have are mario kart and smash

[gentle venture]

She’s probably afraid to get fired so she got shy

[hard heath]

and there's no way in hell i'm paying for online

[brisk trail]

Hades is kinda a friendly game for new pc users :))

[hard heath]

there's also odyssey but that's one and done

[half zephyr]

She was decapitated & then her head was fused onto a shield

It puts things into perspective I guess

[hard heath]

i feel that honestly

nothing like a decapitation to make you rethink your life

amiright?

[gentle venture]

yknow what would be funny?

Kid icarus crossover

[half zephyr]

Nah

[unborn remnant]

She went from turning people into stone to well

[desert meadow]

YES

[unborn remnant]

[gentle venture]

Percy Jackson crossover. Disney hades crossover.

[ionic trail]

If we get to kill that mf

Yes

[half zephyr]

She had her reasons

Her myth is just tragic

[desert meadow]

Dude, I would pay for a KI crossover

[gentle venture]

Who

[half zephyr]

Justice for Medusa

[unborn remnant]

that is fair

[ionic trail]

Icarus

[unborn remnant]

aspect of pit bow

[ionic trail]

Don't like him

Too smug

[weak spruce]

co-op mode where the second player controls achilles pls

[hard heath]

i'd kill for another kid icarus game

[unborn remnant]

Uprising Switch port when

[desert meadow]

Dark Pit and Than could have an edge off

[half zephyr]

I’m happy with IFR & Hades

[grand crystal]

ok than isnt edgy

hes just baby

[unborn remnant]

yes he is

[half zephyr]

Than is a baby

[unborn remnant]

hes the god of death 🗿

[ionic trail]

Imagine being able to play with Than

[gentle venture]

Hopefully soon. The 35th anniversary of Kid Icarus SHOULD be next year if im not mistaken.

[weak spruce]

or thanatos yea

that makes more sense

[ionic trail]

Just chopping mfs with sycthe

[half zephyr]

A very emotionally stumped & confused baby

[hard heath]

eh if there's anything i've learned about nintendo ips

[gentle venture]

YO WAIT, KID ICARUS UPRISING THANATOS AND HADES THANATOS

[hard heath]

is to keep my expectations low

and my hopes lower

[grand crystal]

please no

i hated uprising thanatos

very annoying

[desert meadow]

Hades vs Hades
Viridi lecturing Demeter about how endless winter is bad for nature
Magnus still the one sane person

Just, yes

[ionic trail]

Hynpos just sleeping

[desert meadow]

Oh my word, yes

[gentle venture]

that sounds like someone who complained about the style of the new pokemon diamond and pearl remakes

[grand crystal]

oh my word, no

[hard heath]

you called me out hard

[half zephyr]

.. hynpos..

[hard heath]

i'm feeling attacked

honestly the hands bother me so much

:P

[ionic trail]

Don't call out typos plz

[hard heath]

i'll stop now

[ionic trail]

: (

[gentle venture]

Precisely why it would be funny. Hades Thanatos would HATE Kid icarus uprising hades

[desert meadow]

^

[gentle venture]

Was i right?

[hard heath]

absolutely right

[grand crystal]

lmao

[hard heath]

i'm a doomer

[unborn remnant]

New Kid Icarus game, but its a roguelite

[hard heath]

a gloomer

a look downer

[grand crystal]

imagine judging a game before it even comes out

[ionic trail]

I'm pretty sure some dev will try to copy hades sooner or later

[unborn remnant]

For sure

[gentle venture]

Honestly, hear me out- greek mythology and mythology in general has given us the possibility of so many crossovers in media

[half zephyr]

..

[desert meadow]

Oh! There’s god of war too

[grand crystal]

but media only focuses on norse and greek -_-

they forget that literally every other mythos exists

[half zephyr]

I feel like that’s just religion in general - not just the ancient ones

[gentle venture]

Greek- God Of war, Percy Jackson, Hades, Kid Icarus, Disney
Norse-Marvel, God Of War
Egyptian- Kane Chronicles, percy jackson, five seconds of God of War ps4,

All three of them- smite

[half zephyr]

Cuz Norse is confusing af & fun

[desert meadow]

Egypt is used somewhat

[grand crystal]

i wouldnt say confusing :/

from what i understand its alright

[half zephyr]

There’s more then that for Norse
We got Netflix show too

[half zephyr]

You didn’t have it in school

[grand crystal]

im just confused how loki(?? i know it was one of em) gave birth to a horse

[half zephyr]

Shapeshifter

He was a mare at the time

[grand crystal]

ah

[gentle venture]

There is a confirmed percy jackson disney + series that is said to have a bigger budget than star wars and marvel

[desert meadow]

Speaking of Loki, imagine him with Theseus against Zag

[half zephyr]

To win a bet he had to lay with a horse

[grand crystal]

i wouldnt place any bets on it

[half zephyr]

More detailed then that, but can’t elaborate in this channel

[grand crystal]

i dont trust disney

[brazen lagoon]

theyre gonna mess up that percy jackson thing i just know ut

[desert meadow]

Thankfully being overseen by the author

[grand crystal]

and who cares about budget

[gentle venture]

The budget thing is good
Cuz it means that the production MIGHT actually be solid

[desert meadow]

And considering Rick hated the movies, the show should at least be faithful

[gentle venture]

As opposed to the somewhat mess we got on the silver screen

[half zephyr]

Did you know Loki was brothers with Odin?

[narrow hemlock]

hi friends, lets get back on topic with hades and take other discussion to the appropriate channels

[half zephyr]

Ye, sorry

[brazen lagoon]

i just hope its good honestly

[half zephyr]

[grand crystal]

i thought loki was just like a random fire giant that had no relation :/

[desert meadow]

Yeah, our bad

[hard heath]

ah greek mythology

[half zephyr]

No.. very important

[hard heath]

all sorts of shapeshifter sheninigans

[desert meadow]

Ok, so, back on topic.
Hades is a game

[half zephyr]

Fun game

[grand crystal]

it very much is

a good game too

[hard heath]

indeed

[half zephyr]

Epic music

[hard heath]

never really got into roguelites until hades

[ionic trail]

Movies were so bad

[brazen lagoon]

hades got robbed at game awards

[hard heath]

liked the sense of progress and the dialogue

[brazen lagoon]

all im gonna say

[half zephyr]

We don’t talk about those..

[desert meadow]

^^^^^^^^

[hard heath]

eh the last of us 2 deserved it

[grand crystal]

yea last of us didnt deserve nything it got

[ionic trail]

Oooof beef

[grand crystal]

but thats not on topic :3

[hard heath]

oh dear

[brisk trail]

I've heard the accessibility was deserved.

[half zephyr]

Now it’s getting off topic right away lol

[hard heath]

yeah that one was cool

[brazen lagoon]

i think it deserved some of the awards but its like they just gave everything they could to it

like bro

[ionic trail]

I'm sad the vinyl pre-order is sold out

[brisk trail]

Anyway.

[brazen lagoon]

gime some other games the spotlight lol

anyways

game

[desert meadow]

Favorite song?

[hard heath]

the payback remix

[gentle venture]

Hey guys... what would happen if you got to Eurydice with no boons

[hard heath]

when chiron just slaps ur ass

[desert meadow]

They’re all good tbh

[half zephyr]

In The Blood

[brazen lagoon]

same

[half zephyr]

And the duet for good riddance

[desert meadow]

Either that or Out of Tartarus for me

[ionic trail]

How do you even trigger that fight?

[gentle venture]

in the blood

[grand crystal]

take refreshing nectar :/

[hard heath]

you rob chiron

in a shop that's not pre boss fight

if you go to the little cage area there's a bag of money sometimes

you just rob his ass

and then he fights you

[gentle venture]

It’s rather rare

[hard heath]

thwacks you with his 42 damage oar

[weak spruce]

is there a way to roll the hammer you get in the beginning of a run

[hard heath]

oops

forgot i can't swear

[ionic trail]

Rip

What do you get for beating him?

[desert meadow]

“Chiron”

[hard heath]

ah shoot

i forgot his name lmao

[ionic trail]

Charon

I think

[desert meadow]

Yeah

[ionic trail]

I presume

[hard heath]

charon

yeet

but his boss fight is HARD

like holy cow

he does so much damage

[desert meadow]

Chiron is the centaur? a bow aspect is named after

[hard heath]

his oar slaps

yeah that's the bow

[ionic trail]

I'm actually proud of myself for knowing most of the characters based on superficial mythology knowledge

Well all except demeter for some reason I forgot her

[desert meadow]

No wonder she’s so mad

[ionic trail]

Ahahhahahah

[hard heath]

demeter was a surprise for me

i was expecting hera or something

instead of demeter

but i suppose it's to be expected

[ionic trail]

Also, y'all aren't talking about how hot ares is in this game enough

[desert meadow]

How would Hera boons even work?

[hard heath]

given ||zagrius's true heritage||

no idea honestly

i just expected her to show because she's a major god

maybe healing boons?

idk

[desert meadow]

“Ha! Let my enemies die of divorce!”

[ionic trail]

DED

[desert meadow]

Healing is kinda already covered by others though

[ionic trail]

Yeah

Aphro I think has healing stuff

[desert meadow]

Yeah

Dio too

[ionic trail]

Dio is like the coolest mf

[weak spruce]

demeter has healing too

[ionic trail]

Like I wanna chill with that guy

[hard heath]

dio?

oh dionyclus

[ionic trail]

Dionysus

[hard heath]

ah

SHOOT

WRONG SPELLING

man i'm so good at english you guys

the only language i know

[desert meadow]

I just can’t spell half the time so I went with Dio

Ikr

[ionic trail]

Anyone here speak arabic?

[hard heath]

arabic's a cool language

i love the script

[desert meadow]

My poor dyslexic brain has enough trouble with English so nope

[ionic trail]

It's my native language yet I'm more well versed in english and my mom hates me for it lol

She's an Arabic teacher

Used to be actually

But ye

I blame videogames and music

Yeet

[narrow hemlock]

hi

[ionic trail]

Ayyy

Ares simps assemble

[weak spruce]

okay I've found a way to like the spear

all weapons ok now I guess

[ionic trail]

Yee

[weak spruce]

but it depends on daedalus rng

[ionic trail]

Ah

Rng can be a pain

[weak spruce]

serrated strike should be default on the spear

it becomes an actual usable weapon

happy

[sudden tangle]

Man, I have been sleeping on festive fog

Dio is one of the boys, and his boons are great

[weak spruce]

idk about the boons but he's my fav god

personality wise

[sudden tangle]

The only god I don't really like is zeus, because he's an arrogant son of a gun, no wonder he and Theseus get along

They're the only people high enough on their own fumes to speak as equals

Poseidon is also great

[half zephyr]

All the gods are dumdum meanies though

Even if they’re great

If you just look at myths & what they’ve done

Zeus is the biggest diva tho

[weak spruce]

they all have their funny moments

except demeter, she's cold

lol just realized the pun

but she's just bitter

[sudden tangle]

Oh yeah, the greek pantheon are awful people

[carmine ravine]

The whole greek myth is just soap operas but with godly powers

[deep parrot]

It's been a while, I am back!

[grand crystal]

well welcome back pinecone! :3

[deep parrot]

just been consumed with talking constantly to a newly found possible "soul mate" (fae is so much like me and the ways fae isn't are all qualities I love and I just love everything about faer
fae makes me so happy
fae just went to sleep, so yeah, and also recently the extreme high of talking to fae from being attracted to faer has basically worn off, but I still love talking to faer)

[grand crystal]

well good for you!

i hope everything turns out well :3

[deep parrot]

ditto, so damn much

ouch
also it seems I forgot the one only downside of having multiple monitors; can't get perfect full window screenies, and I have to use shift start s instead of prntsc so this doesn't happen

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/802613885780885566/819409624406818826/unknown.png

I'll ofc take another screenie showing just the game, just wanted to point out I haven't had to deal with this problem in a long time

[brazen lagoon]

Welcome back pine

[deep parrot]

[brazen lagoon]

Hopefully chat plays hades will return in due time

[deep parrot]

oh wierd the 2nd screen on the screenie is touching the top.
my setup used to have the both monitor screenie have the 2nd monitor centered vertically

I did replace the cord that connected the monitor to my pc though

and the new one has chonky things in the middle of the wire modifying the transfer in some way

odd afaik for a monitor/computer connector, but whatever

here's the better scre-
wait clicking on the game made me click ingame
I should have tabbed in a different way >.<

tfw you don't play the game for a bit and just listen to Eurydice sing

I love singing along to one of those two from time to time

[grand crystal]

i kinda wish they sang lament of orpheus together too

like i get that its orphy's song

but still

[deep parrot]

oh, so his song just can't be heard anymore except from the jukebox if you unite them? oop

[brazen lagoon]

Orphy sings it

[grand crystal]

oh no he still sings it every now or then in the house

just i want him and eury to sing it together :3

[brazen lagoon]

And the songs in the jukebox are just instrumentals

[grand crystal]

^^a remixed instrumental at that

[deep parrot]

oop

wait I thought they stayed permanently united after united?

[grand crystal]

no

[deep parrot]

I haven't united either of the couples yet so I didn't know

[grand crystal]

orphy is at the house ever now or then

and eury will be by herself every no or then

same with pat and achilles

[deep parrot]

huh

makes sense

[grand crystal]

yeaa

and tbh the nyx/chaos reunite is very underwhelming

[deep parrot]

cuz even if you love someone a lot, you need some alone time

[grand crystal]

they also have jobs :/

[deep parrot]

especially if you're going to be together for the rest of eternity

[deep parrot]

that too

but I forget that part

[grand crystal]

i mean achilles does just sit in a hallway all day, or night

cant tell in this blasted place

[deep parrot]

lmao yeah achilles doesn't do anything

he's duty bound to stand

[grand crystal]

and orphy just vibes

thats all his job is

vibin

[deep parrot]

he's the court...
what's it?
musician?

is that his title/job?

[grand crystal]

yea

[deep parrot]

also why is my game lagging >.<

[grand crystal]

court musician

oh rip

[deep parrot]

I'm restarting it

I did leave it open for a while and I tab in and out of it often cuz discord, and both of those can semi-break some games

[grand crystal]

yeaa

i mean the fact that hades runs at a solid 40-60fps on my toaster of a computer says a lot

like damn they really optimized it

[deep parrot]

like for example KSP will literally crash basically guaranteed if you transfer between the different buildings at headquarters enough during one session

[grand crystal]

oh damn

[deep parrot]

each time you enter/exit, IDR which or if both, a building at headquarters in Kerbal Space Program, a certain thing stays on or open or smtn in the background and it accumulates and can slow down and eventually crash the game

it's a minor bug imo though

if you think about the fact they're making KSP 2 and afaik that bug is still in the game is a little annoying though

[grand crystal]

ahh

yea it must suck just having it crash tho :/

[deep parrot]

it never happens during a point where you wouldn't just load the autosave when you run the game anyways though so eh

like it only happens at headquarters by entering/exiting a building, which means you aren't actively controlling a craft, and you only really load set saves if you were last controlling a craft
and the game autosaves constantly like most autosaving games

so no progress is lost
just gotta relaunch

also lmao the funny thing is the bug wouldn't even matter if the game wasn't so amazing

cuz if it was just any old misc game that you'd just play a couple hours of then stop, instead of playing 8 hours straight and giving the "wtf how is it 5 am" sitch, it probably wouldn't ever be discovered or an issue

so because the game is awesome, it's less awesome

just slightly

lmao

[grand crystal]

lol i was never interested in ksp but it sounds annoying for it to just crash :/

[deep parrot]

it takes quite a lot of building swaps to have a noticable effect, like you'd need to be really insecure about your science spending or something to have it happen in normal play

or the missions you pick
or just constantly launching a craft because it's finnicky as all hel at launch and you won't change it

[charred anchor]

if i lost my death defiance but replenished it with athena, will patroclus' kiss of styx do anything?

[deep parrot]

kiss of styx premium refills all empty slots

[grand crystal]

nope :/

[charred anchor]

k thanks

[grand crystal]

yea what pine said

[deep parrot]

athena's fills a slot

[grand crystal]

another reason why i like sd more ngl

since touch of styx dark is always useful

and borderline busted

since 80% dd is crazy

and if you do the thing with athena

you can get 2-3

[charred anchor]

once i got 100% sd

[grand crystal]

oh nice

[charred anchor]

still got got by hades tho lmao

[grand crystal]

damn

honestly sd is only "good" in lc4

since its your only way to heal

[deep parrot]

tbh once you get good enough at the game, or just progressed enough to have enough constant buffs, you do not too unoften beat hades with only 0-1 DDs used in the fight, so SD is pretty legit yeah

[grand crystal]

i just like sd cuz it makes me feel cool 😎

[deep parrot]

though SD does heal less

[grand crystal]

like purposely dying for the sake of healing makes my brain feel big

[deep parrot]

lmao

it is interesting that that is indeed a useful strat

less than 30%?
guess I'll die

[grand crystal]

hehe lol

once you get dark touch: gets hit once "guess ill die for the 80%"

[deep parrot]

who gives dark touch?

[grand crystal]

pat

its the kiss premium replacement

[deep parrot]

oh

[grand crystal]

sd heals 50% more

so 30% + 50%

[deep parrot]

by the gods

[grand crystal]

• any other touches you bought in wells

[deep parrot]

yeah 80% min health at the start of each encounter is just op af

[grand crystal]

yea and imagine getting the athena thing

where you have 2 sd's now

although one is a one off

but its still super powerful

[deep parrot]

or the fact her boons make it heal more too

100% min at each encounter

[grand crystal]

and whenever i do this i make sure to have at least 250 hp

[deep parrot]

why?

[grand crystal]

cuz 80% of 150 < 80% of 250 :/

also with lc4 hearts also become a healing source

[deep parrot]

yeah but you implied that 250 was a special number, or atleast that it mattered more than usual in that scenario

[grand crystal]

oh my b

[deep parrot]

like duh yeah more health is better
I just thought you had a specific reason

[grand crystal]

i just like having a lot of hp :3

hell i dont feel comfy normally unless i have 200

btu yea my bad for not specifying ;w;

[deep parrot]

I don't really pay much attention to my max lmao

it is what it is

and I usually favor hearts anyways

[grand crystal]

im not the only one :3

i value hearts over poms

boons > hearts but sometimes hearts > boons

[brazen lagoon]

Anything > coins

[grand crystal]

^^this tbh

[brazen lagoon]

Except for like darkness and gems and keys and stuff

[grand crystal]

but those are separate since blue laurels

[brazen lagoon]

Oh yeah that is true

[grand crystal]

i find nectar > keys > darkness > gems

but thats with the contractor buffs

[runic parrot]

i like my man charon so i almost always pick coins

if there's no boons

[brazen lagoon]

I'm at a point where I don't need any of them

[deep parrot]

aaa I just DC/d from my internet but I am back

[runic parrot]

random level ups r nice

with the nectars

when i only have like 3 boons at the start, getting that level up on the boon i want is very good

[deep parrot]

well my perception of poms are WAY lower since when you're doing a run with the intent of progressing your non-run specific benefits, health just seems better than poms
tbf sure both only affect that run
but idk

[runic parrot]

ill pick up poms if im at 200 health

im pretty comfy at around 200-250

[hardy kernel]

Has anyone completed a 64 heat run

[deep parrot]

more health the better tho

[runic parrot]

sure

[deep parrot]

@hardy kernel I am pretty sure max heat is currently unbeaten vanilla

[runic parrot]

i think the record is 60

[grand crystal]

yep

baj did

it was routed tho

[deep parrot]

wait when?

[grand crystal]

unseeded 60 is the record

[deep parrot]

oh routed counts sorta less

[grand crystal]

lemme find the post

[deep parrot]

but routed stuff is still possible to happen randomly

so it means unrouted 64 heat is possible

[grand crystal]

#h1-victory-boasting message

thats the run baj did

[runic parrot]

oh christ it was yesterday

nice

[grand crystal]

but yea, routed 64 means unrouted 64 can be done :3

we just have to see who does it first

[runic parrot]

has the 60 heat unseeded record been broken yet

[brazen lagoon]

That's one for the history books

[deep parrot]

routed is just basically the same as having perfect luck in unrouted
and perfect luck is possible

[brazen lagoon]

Just gotta be dream

[grand crystal]

but it does need insane luck

[brazen lagoon]

Get the 1 in 7 trillion

[grand crystal]

since you haev td3 to beat

so you cant take forever

[deep parrot]

lmao yeah

[sudden patrol]

I just got a run done with 12 heat, with forced overtime and all that jazz. Turns out aspect of chiron is insane

With all 8 arrows it's so stupidly strong

[deep parrot]

oh, something I meant to ask before I got on the KSP tangent, anything special happen if you fill all your main boon slots with the same god's boons, or something similar maybe?

[sudden patrol]

Also, is aphrodite a good god to run on it? I usually go for her or poseidon

[runic parrot]

not rly

[deep parrot]

is chiron the one that makes bow special track?

[runic parrot]

at least i dont think

[sudden patrol]

yea

[grand crystal]

i mean if you get almost every boon you can i think you get a "blank's disciple" or smth

yea chiron is a trip

one of my fav aspects

[runic parrot]

you should try chiron with zeus special

its suffering

[grand crystal]

lol

nah do pos with sea storm

thats a fun build

[sudden patrol]

I mostly focus my builds around insane strength against single targets so idk

[deep parrot]

8 hits of lightning per shot lmao

[grand crystal]

thats not how it works ;w;

[sudden patrol]

I've been trying to get that, but I just can never get lucky enough for my build to come together

[grand crystal]

it has a cooldown for each bolt

and the special is too fast

[sudden patrol]

yeah lightning has a cooldown

[runic parrot]

zeus' special has a cooldown

[deep parrot]

oh huh

[runic parrot]

a very slight one at that

[sudden patrol]

so you get like 1-2 shows per volley

[runic parrot]

but the special is very fast

[sudden patrol]

not 8

[runic parrot]

yeah

3 if you're lucky

[grand crystal]

otherwise it would be busted

but hear me out

[runic parrot]

imagine if it hit on every single arrow though

[grand crystal]

sea storm

[runic parrot]

that with double strike? melt bosses

[deep parrot]

wait you get something for getting every boon of a god? that sounds like a very difficult and probably impossible achievement

[runic parrot]

you dont

[deep parrot]

lmao yeah that would be op

[sudden patrol]

speaking of aphrodite, isn't it a little weird that you can charm your own dad in the game

like i know it's ancient greece

but...

hmmm...

[deep parrot]

plum said otherwise

[grand crystal]

if you get a lot from them and almost exclusively them you get a "blanks disciple" like i said earlier

[runic parrot]

keyword almost

it's like 10 boons

[deep parrot]

you can charm someone without it being sexual

[brazen lagoon]

If you get 8 boons from a single god you'll get disciple of ___

[runic parrot]

i just got arty's disciple and i think i barely got all of them

[deep parrot]

take it from an asexual

[runic parrot]

yeah 8

[deep parrot]

charming doesn't have to be sexual

[sudden patrol]

Well yeah, but she's the friggin god of love

[deep parrot]

and love =/= sexual

[grand crystal]

there are many types of love

[sudden patrol]

of sexual love that is

[grand crystal]

shes just love

[runic parrot]

does she encompass eros only

[grand crystal]

not specifically sexual

[deep parrot]

yeah she is atleast romantic too

[sudden patrol]

according to britannica

[runic parrot]

i dont think so

[grand crystal]

i think theres lke 7 types according to the greeks

types of love that is

ik zag and dusa mention it

[sudden patrol]

to quote britannica: Aphrodite, ancient Greek goddess of sexual love and beauty, identified with Venus by the Romans.

so still wacky

[deep parrot]

I'm gonna google it myself and see

[sudden patrol]

yea look up "What is aphrodite the god of"

[grand crystal]

you also have to think this is greek myth

[sudden patrol]

ikik

[grand crystal]

there are many iterations and versions

[deep parrot]

true

[runic parrot]

ehh does it matter really

charm's a curse

[grand crystal]

so we all are right technically