h1-discussion

[acoustic quartz]

i kinda wanna try 5 heat just for erebus gates but the gauge is already full at 2

[grand crystal]

for heat, skipping isnt an issue since you get the rewards in increments of 1

[carmine ravine]

You can but you cant get all the rewards at once

[grand crystal]

i.e. going to 5 heat will give you the 2 heat rewards

in your case that is

[hasty owl]

honestly runs don’t feel that different until 6 heat or so

you should be fine on 5

[grand crystal]

and staying at 5 heat will give you the rewards for every run you do with it until the guage fills with 5

imo the game doesnt feel different till about 16-20

but thats just me

[hasty owl]

yes but u see you are far better than i am

[heady stream]

Yeah. Unless you take crazy heat like security, or approval process, etc.

[acoustic quartz]

ah ok then

thanks

[hasty owl]

i am a widdle baby who still loses 2dd to em2 lernie bc i keep stepping in lava

[acoustic quartz]

lmao

stepping in lava is an issue i have too

[hasty owl]

damn maybe i should just turn off em2 and stick another tank of td

[heady stream]

It depends on what weapon I have. If I’m going gloves, I can’t avoid stepping in lava to go fight Lernie lol

[hasty owl]

will probably make my life easier in the long run

[grand crystal]

and i am a widdle baby who loses to em3 ;w;

[hasty owl]

it doesn’t even matter the weapon i use

i dash to avoid the head crush thing

[grand crystal]

em2 i only sometimes struggle on

[hasty owl]

and then ofc i dash directly into lava

and then i dash out of that lava into an arrow

[heady stream]

The classic

[hasty owl]

and then i dash out of the arrow into more lava

[grand crystal]

yea em2 does a great job of making you feel constricted

[heady stream]

For sure

[hasty owl]

and then i dash out of that lava into a head crush

the circle of death

[acoustic quartz]

lmao

[hasty owl]

god em3 absolutely slaughtered me the first time i tried it

[acoustic quartz]

im kinda scared to turn up em

[hasty owl]

it’s so much harder than em4

[acoustic quartz]

em1 is easy but fighting lernie upgraded is

i dont think im ready

[hasty owl]

honestly em 2 isn’t so bad i’m just panicky

[grand crystal]

^^same

just make sure you can keep your cool and know where youll be dashing

thats about all i can say for em2

[hasty owl]

also if you take hyper sprint in asphodel

be super careful in em2

[grand crystal]

lol i never take hyper sprint, it makes me feel slippery

[hasty owl]

bc it gives you drift which is helpful in like elysium where u need movement

[rapid forum]

Keep your cool against lernie's heat

[hasty owl]

but you often drift directly into lava/ arrow/ head crush

hyper sprint is so fun tho

it makes me feel like zag is covered in butter

slidey boi

[grand crystal]

yea and for me it throws off my rhythm

[rapid forum]

The only reason I get hyper sprint is the sturdy

[hasty owl]

imagine having rhythm this post was made by the bad at rama gang

[rapid forum]

So I can be a bit more reckless

Also rush delivery is nice

[grand crystal]

lmao

i only have done my 40 with rama

[hasty owl]

am i tbe only one who finds quick recovery kinda meh

like theoretically it’s good

[grand crystal]

its not good imo

[hasty owl]

but in practise it doesn’t seem to do much

[grand crystal]

i gte hit during my dashes somehow

[hasty owl]

ouchie

diViNe dASh tiMe

[grand crystal]

also do yall think i should do 6/40 or just jump to 45

[rapid forum]

Nope, I don't like quick recovery either

[hasty owl]

that was sarcasm. every time is divine dash time

[rapid forum]

Maybe it's good when you get epic

[hasty owl]

what do u mean 6/40

do you mean a 6 heat and then a 40 heat?

[grand crystal]

all weapons 40 heat

[hasty owl]

ah

[grand crystal]

since theres 6 weapons

:3

[rapid forum]

All weapons 45

[grand crystal]

o-o

[hasty owl]

i think practise with 40 heat on all aspects you’re comfortable with

and then try 45 with your fave

if it’s still fun and goes well go back for the others

[grand crystal]

you right, so nem sword, gy, zeus/beo shield, rama/chiron, dem fist, eris/hestia

time to just screw around later tonight then

[hasty owl]

woo

god hestia is so good

i’ve been crazy into it the past few days

[grand crystal]

its nice, not my favorite

i take it whne i just want my brain to turn off

[hasty owl]

it just absolutely smashed through tartarus and asphodel

it one shots those witches in elysoum

and those damn eggs

are they called eggs?

[grand crystal]

for??

[hasty owl]

spawners maybe?

[grand crystal]

the elysium souls or like lernie eggs

[hasty owl]

elysium soul

[grand crystal]

i just call them souls :/

[hasty owl]

the little blue thing that waddles around

[grand crystal]

i dont think they have a name

[rapid forum]

Elysium ball thing

[grand crystal]

i wanna draw the balls with feet now

[hasty owl]

havent you heard? theyre eggs

[rapid forum]

Eggs are elliptical balls

[grand crystal]

lol one day im gonna draw the souls with feet and @ you camomile

god i have too many cursed things to draw

[hasty owl]

aww

amazinf

[grand crystal]

red in zags outfit, the elysium souls with feet,

and thats about it

[versed zinc]

waiting for the update 🙂

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/483348725704556557/796143306693148722/BasedCigar.gif

[grand crystal]

we probably arent going to get one :/

but whats the name of the soul things like seriously

i need to find references

[hasty owl]

egg

[grand crystal]

ill just go on the wiki ;w;

[hasty owl]

ok according to the wiki they might be called Elite Exalted

but it doesn’t specify between egg form and warrior form

ah theyre officially called Disarmed Exalted Souls

[grand crystal]

ah ok

thank you

[hasty owl]

i mean

they eggs tho

[grand crystal]

omfg i swear

i cant find the 3d model anywhere

or just any image of it

[hasty owl]

hm

back when i used to do piracy

u could click on the game

show package contents

contents, resources

there’s usually a folder for icons and stuff

you should be able to find some references there

if this doesn’t work lmk and i’ll find some refs for u

[grand crystal]

o-o

i dont know if i even still have the files on my computer

i havent touched the pc version since the nighty night update

[hasty owl]

lol

i’ll see if i can find some now

idk if steam lets u see it tho

brb

[grand crystal]

oh ok :3

[hasty owl]

yeah steam won’t let me see

[grand crystal]

damn

[hasty owl]

ok honestly go check a streamer u like

skip to elysium

and just take screenshots

[grand crystal]

lmaoo

ill just take pictures at 3am when i play lol

[hasty owl]

that’s annoying from steam tho i really like looking at game code

[grand crystal]

thank you for the effort tho <3

[hasty owl]

tHiS iS eNcOuRaGiNg piRaCy

no prob

as a fellow artist i know that we would both kill and die for good refs

[grand crystal]

lmao yea

[acoustic quartz]

guys

em2 is a nightmare

[runic parrot]

try it with hs

:)

[acoustic quartz]

the layout of the map

is the stuff of nightmares

[acoustic quartz]

i would die irl

[runic parrot]

you get used to it

it's really only a problem if you dont know how to effectively dodge lernie

since he has much more degree of freedom to move

[restive cave]

i beat extreme measures theseus, then picked up a poseidon boon right after and nothing happened

[grand crystal]

you have to wait until next run

and even then theres a chance itll be overridden since the dialogue is rng

[humble lotus]

WOO GOT TO THE CREDITS!!!!!

[rapid acorn]

Hello there

[grand crystal]

hello asmo

[rapid acorn]

I just got hades and well joined the discord cause it exists

[grand crystal]

well i hope youve been having a good time :3

[rapid acorn]

I have

I’ve gotten to elysium with about 3 weapons I think and came here to get a bigger brain

[grand crystal]

oh well if you have any questions feel free to ask :)

im generally always here as long as its not like 10pm pst

and lots of people here will be more than happy to help

[rapid acorn]

Sounds good

I’m starting to run dry on upgrades and all, beaten Meg and family with all 6 weapons I believe, and am trying to progress like any other human being

[acoustic quartz]

congrats!

[rapid acorn]

I’m able to use all weapons except chronarcht fairly decently and was just wondering about some strats implied

[acoustic quartz]

have you tried getting duo and legendary boons?

cuz those make builds really nice imo

[rapid acorn]

Not really tbh

And I’ve gotten the contractor upgrade allowing that to be seen more clearly, so I wonder why I haven’t been doing so

[acoustic quartz]

you should get the mirror upgrade if you want to get it

god's legacy

increases chances of getting them

[grand crystal]

hoho my tag is bow gang for a reason

i love bow

and yea gods legacy is very important if you have duo centered builds

[runic agate]

Anyone remember me lol?

And yes I have an anime girl pfp (yes it's technically from a game but still the game is anime-y)

[grand crystal]

pyra is #1 waifu excuse me, mythra is #2

and you cant make me think otherwise

[runic agate]

It's my opinion buuuut pyra is still insanely close

They're both amazing

[grand crystal]

very

i loved xeno 2

[runic agate]

I played a bit of it about a year ago but then my friend broke the cartridge now I'm replaying it

[grand crystal]

ahh

[hollow kettle]

Me: Please I just want to progress the story with Meg
The Fates giving me Tisiphone for the fourth time in a row: :)

[grand crystal]

lol, yk now that she can say zagreus im really happy

and whwnever she says "murderer" it has a "?" and im like her and zag are friends hell yea

[hollow kettle]

I was gonna say the RNG gods but when you think about it they're literally just like the Fates in the context of this game right

[grand crystal]

hehe yea lol

[runic agate]

Exactly

[hollow kettle]

Anyway it's not that I'm not happy to see her I just haven't seen Meg in a while ;-;

[runic agate]

What is the easiest fight in the game in your opinion

[grand crystal]

tisiphone

shes ez

meg has jank hitboxes

and is also super easy

hydra is also pretty easy

dad is arguably easy

[brisk trail]

ok so i keep getting small dialogue from ||chaos|| whenever I'm in combat does it mean particularly anyhting or is it just... dialogue

[grand crystal]

i think its just dialogue

[brisk trail]

makes sense

[restive cave]

i think rama with all zeus upgrades is big stick energy

[runic parrot]

youre using chaos shield

probably

they can see through it

[humble lotus]

What are the heat obalisk things?

[wise sparrow]

beat the game on that heat to unlock it

[dusky wedge]

Hydra is easiest imo, just snipe him

Of course you still need to dodge, but so much less dodging is required

[acoustic quartz]

ok but

em2

i think meg is easiest tbh

the furies in general are easy

[carmine ravine]

You cant generally say that, i felt it was easy too but some people here say that its the hardest for some reason

[acoustic quartz]

well i guess they can flood your screen with attacks, especially with em1

[humble lotus]

I will say i managed to nearly 3 shot one of the furries

[runic agate]

You mean furies

Those are 2 VERY different things

[grand crystal]

lmao

[mighty snow]

If I get a boon for the first time (fated Prophecy) and then sell it later in the run, does it still count towards the list?

[grand crystal]

yep! as long as you get the boon in a run it counts

[mighty snow]

thanks. I got Unshakeable Mettle

[runic agate]

Mettle? Do you mean metal?

[mighty snow]

10% dmg reduction and no stuns from bosses seems fine, but I think I can get more power from the 450 gold

Nope. Mettle.

[runic agate]

Wait what

what

[grand crystal]

yea its spelled mettle for the boon

[mighty snow]

Duo Boon. Posideon/Athena

[runic agate]

Ohhhhh that own

One

dies

[mighty snow]

I wasnt even going for it. I was just farming for Dark lol

I skipped Epic Athena Dash for it since I imagine I won't be seeing that boon again anytime soon

[humble lotus]

I refuse to believe alecto isnt secretly a furry

[brazen lagoon]

why

[humble lotus]

Why not?

[brazen lagoon]

there is nothing that indicates alecto's a furry

[humble lotus]

Her name

Fury and furry are pretty close

[brazen lagoon]

then in that case all 3 furies are "furries"

[grand crystal]

yea

i thought that was cannon

at least its my head cannon

[humble lotus]

They are its just funnier with alecto

[runic agate]

Cringe mf

[vapid narwhal]

I can imagine Alecto secretly being a cat loving goof behind Meg's back

[mighty snow]

I beat hades for the first time today. I decide to farm for dark and tried to get Posideons extra dark boon. Diodnt get it, but I ended up with Duo Boon that made all boons epic. I had tidal dash, attack knock back, 200 damage when knocked back, 40% to bosses on knock back attacks, bow with auto attack, 30% faster attack. I did ALL SIX styx Chambers for fun. I did not lose a single bit of health. I cleared every room ion seconds. I still died at Hades 😦

I am furious with myself!!!

I probably won't see a build that good for weeks. I love this game but I really hate it right now

[vapid narwhal]

yeah poseidon builds are usually not good boss killers

but god damn is it fun clearing rooms

[mighty snow]

I just wasnt paying attention

His health was chunking sooo fast

Every time I died I just thought 'Eh, I am fine" until I wasnt....

Well good to know Posideon isnt great for bosses

Maybe its not as bad a death as it feels. My first kill had no legendaries and 4 rares. the rest were commons. This run was literally like 16 Epic boons. Sorry guys, just have to vent. /endrant

[rapid forum]

you know I read that as goofy, and not cat loving goof

Alecto with goofy's voice

[brazen lagoon]

woah hey there redblood ahyuck

[runic agate]

I've had godly posiden boss killing runs you just need to know how to play with it

[mighty snow]

Yeah this was my first one. This game is about failure and learning....but man it still stings lol

[runic agate]

I haven't played in like a month or so but I really need to go back so I can get those achievements

I'm like 2 or 3 away from having them all

[final trellis]

how can you see how many successful escape runs you have?

[surreal condor]

You can see then in the administrative chamber

If you have access to it

If you don't you can get it from the house contractor for some diamonds

[hollow hawk]

at your victory screen, in the bottom right

or in the admin chamber

[uncut ore]

wait

is it true that I can only get 4 gods in a run?

[rapid forum]

yes

[uncut ore]

but

theres that one thing that gives +5% dmg per god you find

so it maxes out at 20%?

[rapid forum]

yes

yes

[uncut ore]

so why would you ever pick that

over the +40% dps?

its double the damage for half the gods

[runic parrot]

because its more reliable

if youre not building around curses

[rapid forum]

cause it's more consistent with builds that don't necessarily inflict status

like hidden sword

[runic parrot]

PS is great but it sucks if you dont get status curse boons

[rapid forum]

also sorry, you can get more than 20% by getting more gods.

[runic parrot]

it technically maxes out at 35% doesnt it

[rapid forum]

it doesn't max out on 20%

well no idea

[runic parrot]

if you force gods using the keepsakes

[rapid forum]

never test

[runic parrot]

does hermes count?

[rapid forum]

I'd like to think no?

[runic parrot]

yeah it isnt maxed at 20%

i just dont know if hermes counts or not

[manic moat]

I don't think hermes counts

[uncut ore]

im trying to get ares athena hermes and artemis

does that make sense?

I got ares and athena already

I wanna try get their duo boon

[rapid forum]

ah yes, Merciful End

[uncut ore]

im playing with really bad mirror of night upgrades to get the list of minor prophecies

[runic parrot]

none of them are that bad imo

[uncut ore]

I have the +10% duo boon likelihood

[runic parrot]

some just dont synergise well with some

[uncut ore]

so I was thinking I should aim for them

[rapid forum]

good call

[uncut ore]

I dont have the +1 dash so hermes is mandatory

[rapid forum]

hermes will appear, one way or another

[uncut ore]

wdym?

[rapid forum]

hermes appears in every run

that's how he works

[uncut ore]

also

theres 28 chambers in asphodel and tartarus

say I can beat 70% of them without taking damage

thats almost 60% dps buff

that is absolutely insane

why has no one told me of the pierced butterfly

[rapid forum]

I don't like pierced flying butter

I'm reckless

[manic moat]

that's.....not how it works

at least I don't think that's how it works

[uncut ore]

it stacks up +3%

wait

if it works the way you say it is

its a roughly 60*e% buff

[manic moat]

how much %buff do you have rn

[uncut ore]

https://imgur.com/a/hyA9PHQ

yeah theres no way this is how it works

[manic moat]

it'll show when you open the boon menu and hover on the keepsake

[uncut ore]

I have it at lvl 1 still

so I have +7% dps

since I cleared 7 chambers without taking damage

[manic moat]

yea it's literally just +7% that's all

[uncut ore]

yeah

[manic moat]

and I think it's additive and not multiplicative but I'm not sure about that

[uncut ore]

so if I level it up to lvl 3

then it would be +21%

and until I reach asphodel it should be roughly +60%

also ngl using all the random upgrades on mirror of night

[twin moat]

How good is the aspect of beowulf?

[uncut ore]

id rather have +10% duo or legendary chance

and 8 rolls on dice

and get healing from darkness

its nice to experiment to know these kinds of things

[rapid forum]

one of the best imo, just need some time to get used to

[uncut ore]

wait, can you turn on/off the hidden aspects?

[runic parrot]

what

[twin moat]

Any good boon to look out for?

[uncut ore]

since from what I understand they literally change your weapon

so like

and they have both debuffs not just buffs

[runic parrot]

they work like any other aspect

[uncut ore]

oh ok

[runic parrot]

you can switch between the aspects if you want

they're not toggleable modifiers if thats what youre implying

[uncut ore]

ok

[twin moat]

The one thing I hate about pierced butterfly is

You depend on rng a lot more

You can't force gods

[brazen lagoon]

just dont get hit lol 4head

[uncut ore]

oh I hate when people say that rng is like objectively bad somehow

you either need 20 runs to get something

or you have a 5% chance of getting it

so what?

[twin moat]

Wym

[uncut ore]

unironically this

play much more methodically and carefully

it really makes the game more interesting

[runic parrot]

i dont think theyre implying rng is bad

[uncut ore]

kinda like the +40% dps modifier with 2 effects

[twin moat]

My point is you have a much higher chance of getting a bad run

[runic parrot]

just that you cant force builds

[uncut ore]

.

[uncut ore]

.

[twin moat]

Some boons simply don't work properly with some weapons/aspects

[uncut ore]

honestly you can

you can decide what boons you get

[runic parrot]

not if youre faced with a 1 door

[twin moat]

Yup

[runic parrot]

and the one god you dont want to add to your pool shows up

[uncut ore]

you can roll it

[runic parrot]

unironically using fated authority

[twin moat]

Also gods tend to rotate between the ones that already showed up

[uncut ore]

thats why I think the 8 room rolls are better than 4 boon rolls

[twin moat]

I'm a pierced butterfly only player

[runic parrot]

you can only have 4 gods in your "god pool" every run, unless you force it

[twin moat]

And about 20% of my runs go to waste because of rng

[runic parrot]

the first 4 olympians that show up will be the only ones that gets rotated in the pool

[twin moat]

Yeah

[runic parrot]

so it's not "tend to" it's literally designed that way

[uncut ore]

ayy

[twin moat]

True, my bad

[uncut ore]

I got exactly what I wanted

[runic parrot]

nah im just a pedant lol dw about it

[uncut ore]

athena, ares, hermes, artemis

but like

I got tons of boons already

and im supposed to have almost a 40% chance to get a legendary every boon

wait what

I just got 4 gods

and now im offered demeter

does hermes not count as a god?

[rapid forum]

the 4 gods are everyone else except hermes

[uncut ore]

ayyy

first duo

[runic parrot]

hermes isnt counted as an olympian

since he does his own thing

[uncut ore]

super speed aimbot blade rift

[mighty snow]

Is Beowulf any good? Worth using some early Titan blood on?

There is just sooo much info out there. A lot of it is outdated due to patches. I found the tier list by ADWCTA and it makes no sense to me

Has Zeus shield as top weapon, but I can get blitz disc to work at all

cant**

[hollow hawk]

dont micromanage your blood that much

[hybrid snow]

Blitz disc is like a boomerang tbh

[hollow hawk]

dont be on the internet just looking for tier lists, there is no comprehensive tier list really

its all opinion

you might not like something that someone loves

as for beo, unlock it then dont invest any blood in it until you get other aspects up

[mighty snow]

Yeah. I need to wuit fretting and just find what I like and experiment. that is half the fun

[hollow hawk]

beo doesnt need much blood after unlocking for it to be good

[mighty snow]

quit**

[hollow hawk]

it is a good aspect, but again, everything depends on your preference

[hybrid snow]

Unlike all other shield aspects lol

[hollow hawk]

true

[mighty snow]

I'm just so damn worried about number of hades kills. 6 tries and only one win

[hollow hawk]

that is pretty good honestly

[mighty snow]

not like anyone will ever know unless I go tell them lol

[hollow hawk]

you'll learn over time

[half zephyr]

That’s not bad tho

[rapid forum]

yep

it took me 9 tries to kill dad

[half zephyr]

Took me forever

[mighty snow]

Well thats good to know. two of those were really close too. Literally overconfidence and just not paying attention.

[hollow hawk]

if you still dont feel confident enough in hades fight, just hide behind pillars when he's lasering

[half zephyr]

I had to really get used to his patterns & what he did

[hollow hawk]

watch for the white circle before he spins

[mighty snow]

A little more focus and I could easily have been 3 and 3

[hollow hawk]

avoid taking any damage when you have boiling blood in you

(boiling blood is when he throws one of those bombs inside you, and you take double damage while it is lodged inside)

[half zephyr]

If you’re me you’ll also just bombard him with status effects

[hybrid snow]

TIL what boiling blood does....

[hollow hawk]

lol

if im not speedrunning, i just dash around when i have boiling blood in

because your health can go down in a pinch if you keep attacking carelessly during that

[mighty snow]

I might actually just invest more into Chaos shield. Its what got me my first win and I like it quite a bit

[half zephyr]

Pinball!

I haven’t played pinball in a while

[hollow hawk]

chaos shield is quite a bit weaker than it used to be, but its still a very good safe weapon that still manages to do some dmg

[half zephyr]

I’ve mostly stuck with beyblade

[mighty snow]

Whats beyblade?

[half zephyr]

Zeus shield

Get Zeus special on it & aim for support fire

[hybrid snow]

How did it use to work?

[mighty snow]

God I wish I could make that work! Thats the weapon I spent the most time with

[hybrid snow]

Is there any early footage

[half zephyr]

Bounced

Chaos shield bounced

And something else

[hollow hawk]

the extra shields acted like your main, normal special

[twin moat]

Why do I get heroic specials to replace the one I already have?

Like

[hollow hawk]

they bounced a lot

[twin moat]

Always

[half zephyr]

It’s not that hard when you get used to it

[half zephyr]

Cuz gods be petty & all want your attention

And that’s the main way you get heroic..

[twin moat]

I get a minimum of 2 to 3 special heroics

Per run

[mighty snow]

Maybe I just dont buiold it right, but I feel like it needs to be stationary on an enemy, and enemies generally move a lot

[half zephyr]

You can get via trading boons, rare crop & maybe Eurydice?

[hollow hawk]

if you want to learn zeus shield, you watch some of Baj's runs with it

they may contain spoilers though, seeing as you havent finished the story yet

[mighty snow]

Nice! Will do!

[hollow hawk]

so beware

[mighty snow]

Eh I am okay with that

[half zephyr]

If you have a bunch of epic boons then ofc you’ll get offered heroics to replace them

[hollow hawk]

baj is the person who holds the highest heat and fastest time with zeus shield

[mighty snow]

Though the story is suprisingly nice

[half zephyr]

Just like if they were rare boons you’d be offered epic boons

[half zephyr]

It follows you y’know

If you don’t let it catch up to you

Just shoot it out & once the enemies move away you call it back, but don’t let it get you

[hollow hawk]

also, dont let it just stay in one corner, keep calling it back towards you

[half zephyr]

And suddenly you have a beyblade following you around

[hollow hawk]

you can also obviously attack while it is still spinning

[mighty snow]

Yeah, I noticed that. I'll check his vids. maybe pairing it with extra dashes could work

[half zephyr]

This ^

Plus you can attack with it ye

It’s one of the effects

[hollow hawk]

also you'll notice that baj keeps dash striking on zeus shield

[twin moat]

Also runs sometimes really go completely different than what you were expecting

[half zephyr]

You can still attack while special is active

[hollow hawk]

that is because he uses Ruthless Reflex on it (mirror talent that is opposite of greater reflex)

[twin moat]

I was expecting a cast beowulf run

Now my beowulf special deals 500 damage

I'm on chamber 8

[hollow hawk]

the dash strike on all shields is a bit of a slide

[twin moat]

[hollow hawk]

so you can use it as an extra dash

you can practice this on skelly to know what i mean

[half zephyr]

I like having all my dashes

[mighty snow]

I had a run where I tried to force Posideon % on dark gain. just a famr run, no plan to kill. Ended up with the best build I had ever had

[hollow hawk]

ruthless reflex gives you 50% dmg and dodge chance after a near miss with an enemy attack or projectile, which obviously is a lot of dmg in speedruns and a lot of dodge chance in high heats

[half zephyr]

I get a status effect on my dash, and jolted on the special

Maybe another status on the attack

PS heaven

[covert falcon]

Yo, anyone else encounter Hermes offering you Rush Delivery when the only Movement Speed thing you have is Chaos' curse that slows you?

[twin moat]

Loool nice

[mighty snow]

alright im gonna decide what to do with this Titan blood and go for another run. thanks for the advice everyone. Good luck everyone and stay safe!

[hollow hawk]

that sounds weird @covert falcon are you sure you dont have any other movement things?

[twin moat]

Bruh

[hollow hawk]

like zag sword buff, or ichor

if not, then report it to #h1-tech-support

[covert falcon]

Oh wait, I'm a dummy, forgot I had the plume on trying to get his legendary. lmfao my bad

[hollow hawk]

lol

[half zephyr]

..

How could you forget the holy plume

Also, it’s a bit weird that zag drinks the blood of the gods to get a speed boost

[covert falcon]

I normally only put it on when I'm using zag fists lol, rarely do I use it to try and quick get hermes legendary when Im cast buildin

[half zephyr]

Does it act like a drug to him?

Is he secretly a vampire?

Is that how he gets all the titan blood too?

[half zephyr]

Dodge fists \0/

[covert falcon]

Yee, super fun to just dodge everything lmfao

[half zephyr]

Fun runs

[covert falcon]

I've got like 185 clears and I still can't get enough

[rapid forum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/817270982191874081/818767622647578674/Screenshot_540.png

someone forgot to take their spear

on the same run

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/817270982191874081/818767622862274580/Screenshot_542.png

dang, these people sure are forgetful

[covert falcon]

let us take theseus spear and kill him with it devs

[runic parrot]

i want to ride in the macedonian

[uncut ore]

wait a miute

to get guan yu

I need 5 different asepcts unlocked?

[hollow hawk]

yeah

non zag aspects

[uncut ore]

ok

I have 6 now

[hollow hawk]

specifics are in #h1-story-discussion pins

[uncut ore]

so I hope ill get guan yu next round

[hollow hawk]

then just keep talking to achilles and maybe someday the RNGods will bless you

[uncut ore]

guan yu is for the speer right?

[hollow hawk]

no, its for the spear

[uncut ore]

ok so I literally just spend blood on weapons

to get their fancy look?

[hollow hawk]

what

guan yu isnt a skin lol

its a hidden aspect

with a different moveset

[uncut ore]

lmao ares making a reference to nuclear weapons

and to modern warfare in general

[vapid narwhal]

aspects are not fancy looks

[covert falcon]

well, they are fancy looking you do have to admit

[dusky wedge]

With fancier movesets

[uncut ore]

https://imgur.com/a/vDf4hpp

yeah wait

what if I want to play with the normal spear?

I just cant?

[half zephyr]

That’s zag spear

Just choose that aspect..

[uncut ore]

wait what does chosing that aspect mean?

[half zephyr]

It changes the weapon

[uncut ore]

oh

what

ohhh

[half zephyr]

That’s what the aspects do

[uncut ore]

wait zag is way stronger than any other aspect really

[half zephyr]

They change the weapons & give different bonuses

[acoustic quartz]

you can switch aspects any time

[uncut ore]

apart from the hidden ones I guess

[runic parrot]

none of them are really stronger than each other

[acoustic quartz]

no there is no strongest aspect

[runic parrot]

they just play differently

[acoustic quartz]

its just different playstyles yea

[uncut ore]

I was sure it was just buffs for everything

I mean

[acoustic quartz]

i would argue that guan yu is the worst spear aspect tbh

[runic parrot]

though i guess you can make an argument for what weapons are more viable for higher heat and speedrunning

[half zephyr]

It’s different buffs

[uncut ore]

I have all the zag aspects maxed out

and all the other ones are lvl 1

[half zephyr]

But hidden aspects have debuffs too

[uncut ore]

so I guess I should stick to zag

even tho its less cool looking 😦

[acoustic quartz]

i mean its up to you

[half zephyr]

Up to you, but you should try them all out at some point

[acoustic quartz]

its not like you need to upgrade the aspects for them to be good tbh

[half zephyr]

Some are better at higher levels though

[acoustic quartz]

most of my aspects are still base level

and are really good because of the builds i get

[brazen lagoon]

Some don't need high levels some definitely do

[uncut ore]

is 63 heat the maximum?

also I heard you get buffs if you beat 8 heat

[half zephyr]

64 on hell mode

[uncut ore]

should I try it?

[half zephyr]

Huh?

I didn’t get buffs I think

[uncut ore]

playing on 8 heat

[half zephyr]

I got a statue

[uncut ore]

apparently I get a reward from skelly

[uncut ore]

oh its just decorative?

[half zephyr]

That’s not a buff

It’s a prophecy

It’s 8, 16 & 32 heat

Only need 8 for the prophecy tho

[brazen lagoon]

You can get all 3 of them at once if you fancy

[half zephyr]

But 32 heat

[glass egret]

Hey people, im a begginer and used all my titan blood to level one single weapon lol... any idea how to get more ? didnt beat hades yet

[runic parrot]

you gotta beat him :)

it sometimes comes up in the broker inventory for 15 keys but its pretty rare

[wide bison]

You can also trade ambrosia for Titan blood at the broker

[runic parrot]

thats not worth it tbh

at least early game

[acoustic quartz]

yea ambrosia for titan blood isnt really worth it

but yea you can get more titan blood after you beat hades

theres also the shop in styx

but it costs 1200 obols so you might not want to get that since you havent beat hades and can use that money for smth else

[rapid forum]

I tried playing Hades with no sound and wow, I never realized how much I rely on sound.

I almost died fighting EM4 with a god build

Hehehe

[brazen lagoon]

I play hades without sound

Kinda used to it now tbh

[rapid forum]

well I'm not and that's the case.I just played on switch, screen is smol and it's hard to tell anything apart. Chimes are really helpful.

welp gotta get used to it I guess

or else I can't sneak in little bit of hades while working

[brazen lagoon]

The visual cues are usually enough to get me through

Although fishing is quite a bit harder

[rapid forum]

Fishing relies heavily with chimes

[brazen lagoon]

Thankfully fishing isn't too important to me anymore

I've basically caught all the fish and I don't need the resources

[rapid forum]

idk why but if I don't fish

my overall run is gonna be crap

as if Uncle Fish REALLY wants me to fish

[twin moat]

I play the same with or without sound

But I like hearing the dialogs

[rapid forum]

meg's voice is really... charming

[brazen lagoon]

Definitely very sexy charming

[cobalt star]

hey anyone down to vc and talk while playing hades?

[vapid narwhal]

this server does not have a vc channel

[cobalt star]

we can private call @vapid narwhal

[limpid vine]

Hello! 🙂
|| does the 20% off coupon from charon only last for that particular run? ||

[vapid narwhal]

yes

[limpid vine]

well that sucks, thanks for telling me haha

I never bother unless I have the shield weapon

[vapid narwhal]

it's mostly for bragging rights and an achievement

[limpid vine]

I see

[woeful robin]

Or bijgo

Bingo*

[charred anchor]

just burnt myself alive in front of eurydice so i could get my health up with stubborn defiance

[rapid forum]

Zag: "Something's cooking"
Eurydice: "You are"

[charred anchor]

lmao

[surreal condor]

I just saw Orpheus teleport and next time I go to Asphadel he BETTER be there

Also, screw skelly for that "prank" he pulled

[signal aspen]

yeah but... free ambrosia

or is it diamonds

idk i forgot

[dusky wedge]

Ends up not getting the option to even meet eurydice lmao

[mossy lily]

Good morning Lethal leaguers

[surreal condor]

It was diamonds

[signal aspen]

well i just spent the diamonds on ambrosia

[dusky wedge]

||That happened to me with Achilles, when I freed him, took me several runs before Pat door shows up||

[surreal condor]

Fair enough, I'm still pissed at Hermes for damn bet

Hey Nero, can you mark your thing? Cuz spoilers and all

[signal aspen]

spoilers are allowed

[surreal condor]

I know but like

Might as well mark it

[dusky wedge]

I thought spoiler tags are only in new players?

Nvm

[surreal condor]

Thx

[runic parrot]

its kinda weird putting this channel above the new players one

its pretty much the one people gravitate to

[surreal condor]

Quick question, I'm using aspect of nemesis sword. And I equip the Artemis keepsake thing every time I start a run so I can start with a boon the capitalizes on the crit thing

Is this a good idea? Or should I use something else?

[rapid forum]

it's not a bad idea

[brazen lagoon]

It's fine yeah

[dusky wedge]

New player one should have a spoiler-free tag in the name or something then

I think it’s nice to have that tbh

[rapid forum]

however, what I'd do with nemesis is get privilege status and put aphro on attack

and run status build

[surreal condor]

Privilege status?

[brazen lagoon]

Mirror upgrade

[surreal condor]

Ah

Ok

[rapid forum]

get heart rend on the way

and kill every one

[surreal condor]

I will try it out

I don't usually get aphro boons

My luck isn't that great I guess

[rapid forum]

also boonless run with nemesis is viable

[runic parrot]

aphro on nemesis does some beeg damage

[rapid forum]

I don't recommend that

but if you're bored

you won't be after that

[runic parrot]

if you're really bored you should do a special-only hidden rail run

[surreal condor]

I am definitely not good enough at the game to do a boonless run

[rapid forum]

laughs in triple bomb

[runic parrot]

its still pretty slow even with triple bomb

[surreal condor]

I only have 11 heat on spear and 8 on sword

[rapid forum]

fair enough

[runic parrot]

you really want to smash them near each other and then smack them with the explosion

[signal aspen]

hidden sword with hoarding slash is op

[surreal condor]

I don't know how to unlock hidden sword

I don't even know what it does

[signal aspen]

spend 5 blood on non zag spear and sword aspect

talk to achilles

unlock hidden spear

talk to nyx

unlock hidden sword

[half zephyr]

Go check pinned msgs in #h1-story-discussion

[surreal condor]

Alright

[surreal condor]

Wait, but I already did that

I didn't get any dialog

[signal aspen]

then just keep talking to them

[half zephyr]

It’s rng

[runic parrot]

the woes of many a hades player

[signal aspen]

it took me a couple of runs to get it

[half zephyr]

Gotta keep talking

[runic parrot]

if you didnt get the dialog you wanted, just keep talking to them

[surreal condor]

My rng always sucks ;-;

[runic parrot]

it's all rng and i hate it

[surreal condor]

Curse the fates

[signal aspen]

fats

[half zephyr]

Some of the hidden have extra unlock conditions too

Like for fist you have to talk to Asterius with them equipped right?

[signal aspen]

yeah

[dusky wedge]

For some of the dialogues, you have to clear some strings of dialogues first before the next one will appear

[surreal condor]

Well that sucks

[dusky wedge]

So, yeah, keep talking

[surreal condor]

This game is absolutely amazing, but the RNG is just... ;-;

[half zephyr]

And at times other dialogue will rank as more important

It’s just rng ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[signal aspen]

fists and shield are probably the hardest to get

[half zephyr]

Play the game & it’s fine

[signal aspen]

because it took me like 5 runs to get the dialogue

[half zephyr]

I got fists p fast, shield too

[signal aspen]

bruh

[half zephyr]

Bow took me a while

[surreal condor]

Its been more than 9 runs and I still didn't get either the spear or the sword ;-;

[half zephyr]

You need spear first

[signal aspen]

are you sure that you have spent 5 blood

they cant be zag aspect

[half zephyr]

Has to be non zag aspect ye

[surreal condor]

Yes, I maxed out aspect of hades on spear and aspect of nemesis on sword

[signal aspen]

i guess you have really bad luck

[surreal condor]

CURSE THE FATES

[dusky wedge]

Sword won’t appear before spear, so check your spear

Other than that, keep trying

[surreal condor]

My spear has been maxed out for the last... like what, 15 runs?

[half zephyr]

Gotta make it to hades & then wait for Achilles to react

[dusky wedge]

^

[surreal condor]

But I always do ;-;, well, most of the time anyway. And he already reacted to it

I think

[signal aspen]

then buy it

[half zephyr]

Then just go talk to your spear!

Equip it & talk to it & buy it

[surreal condor]

How do I talk to it? There isn't a talk option on the spear, or an explanation mark

[signal aspen]

literally just equip it

[surreal condor]

But I did

[signal aspen]

bruh

then achilles didnt give you the correct dialogue

[half zephyr]

You equip it & then do what you’d do to get to aspect screen

[dusky wedge]

Equip it, and then press Interact again

[half zephyr]

That’s it

[surreal condor]

Maybe, he congratulated me on beating hades, idk if that's it

[signal aspen]

go to the aspects page

[half zephyr]

He’ll give you a mystical phrase

[brazen lagoon]

The dialogue is about a waking phrase

[half zephyr]

That’s the dialogue you want

[dusky wedge]

You sure you already get the awakening phrase?

[brazen lagoon]

If there's not the waking phrase in the dialogue then it's not it

[signal aspen]

https://youtu.be/jAfd6nt-Yg0

[surreal condor]

I don't think so

[surreal condor]

Thanks, will check it out. Probably will help me

[half zephyr]

Then just keep getting to hades & talk to Achilles

You do have the fated list by now right?

Cuz after that it’s just rolling the rng dice over & over

[hasty owl]

if you really need it try suiciding for a bit

you get new dialogue after every run

[signal aspen]

yeah i did that when i was getting all the aspects

[fringe elbow]

“lernie vanquished” lol

[grand shale]

wait

after you beat the game for the tenth time can you still have those exposition things that come in the form of Zag finally resting?

[half zephyr]

?

[grand shale]

like you know when he occasionally decides yes he will rest

[half zephyr]

He does?

[grand shale]

and then theres an interactive black and white cutscene

[half zephyr]

That’s story

[grand shale]

yeah

[rapid forum]

the words Zag and rest do not come together

[hollow hawk]

the only time that happens is when you romance people

[grand shale]

do you still get those after beating the game

[grand shale]

no not that

[hollow hawk]

no, those are flashback cutscenes

that only happen like 2 times

[grand shale]

yeah that

[half zephyr]

You only get 2

[grand shale]

dang

[hollow hawk]

because theyre story related

[half zephyr]

Ye, cuz it’s story

[hollow hawk]

it isnt related to you beating the game 10 times

[half zephyr]

You don’t need more then 2

[grand shale]

oh okay

[runic agate]

Ayeeee

[south comet]

Which god gives the best boons in yall's opinion?

[hollow hawk]

every god

[runic parrot]

pretty obvious in my case

[hollow hawk]

gods are pretty balanced honestly in the game

artemis is probably the most versatile one though

[signal aspen]

aphro or artemis

[rapid forum]

Arty, cause I'm a simp for arty

[hollow hawk]

as she has uses for cast builds, fast attack weapons and slow attack weapons

aphro is a weak god for me, besides her duo with arty

her tier twos are just so bad

[signal aspen]

but she can deal a ton of damage

[rapid forum]

smoldering is really good

pair that with bellowing

[hollow hawk]

her duos are decent

low tolerance is also good

[brisk trail]

I like zeus’ duos

[hollow hawk]

her tier twos and legendary are what make it bad for me

[brisk trail]

esp with Poseidon

[runic parrot]

zeus and poseidon are two of my faves

[south comet]

Honestly I expected yall to say athena

[brisk trail]

Hell yeah

[runic parrot]

arty is up there two my heart is with her after all the crit builds ive used

[half zephyr]

For me it depends on what weapon & aspect I’m doing 😗

[hollow hawk]

athena is a good god for beginners

she provides a lot of defense

[south comet]

I love athena boons with melee weapons

[signal aspen]

merciful end is one of the best builds in the game

[half zephyr]

Athena is boring

[runic parrot]

athena is ok

[half zephyr]

She’ll get you to the end & will prolly make you win, but it won’t be as fun

[dusky wedge]

You’ll love Athena when you don’t have DDs anymore

[hollow hawk]

^^

[signal aspen]

stubborn roots

[runic parrot]

i run SD 😎

[south comet]

For example I love using stygius, and with stygius I really like having at least a couple athena boons

[hollow hawk]

stubborn roots is overrated for me

[runic parrot]

but its still nice to get last stand on sd

[south comet]

Mainly the dash

[hollow hawk]

never found it useful

[signal aspen]

athena can give SD 2 extra dds

[half zephyr]

Athena dash is eh

[hollow hawk]

or you can get an extra dd by using the stubborn tech

[signal aspen]

WHAT

[runic parrot]

athena dash is alright if im running fists

[runic parrot]

that is what i was talking about, yes.

[half zephyr]

I prefer a status effect on my dash

[hollow hawk]

athena dash does no dmg, its only for defense

[signal aspen]

athenas dash is probably the best dash in the game

especially for high heat

[half zephyr]

Since I’m always dashing into enemies

[hollow hawk]

barely any dash gives a status curse though

except i guess aphro and dio

and dem

lol

[half zephyr]

I’m not doing high heat tho

[signal aspen]

you can make enemies exposed with dash

[hollow hawk]

which are pretty weak dashes in and of themselves

[signal aspen]

that is a status curse

[runic parrot]

all dashes can give status curses with the right t2 boons

[half zephyr]

But exposed is meh

[hollow hawk]

with t2s, yeah

[south comet]

I don't like the zeus dash, it feels really useless unless you have certain specific boons

[runic parrot]

exposed + divine dash is ok. i'll take it if im running PS

[dusky wedge]

That’s another boon to get though

[hollow hawk]

zeus dash is good for applying jolted, if you have it

[runic parrot]

zeus dash is meh

[half zephyr]

I’d rather give them a hangover or jolt them or make them weak

[dusky wedge]

Hence why I don’t like them much

[runic parrot]

i'd prefer tidal dash

[south comet]

That's why I said useless without certain boons

[hollow hawk]

athena also applies a status curse though, same as zeus' jolted

[half zephyr]

I like tidal, but not when I’m on melee

[hollow hawk]

its a t2 status curse

[runic parrot]

yeah but jolted is actually good

[half zephyr]

I know, but I already said exposed is meh for me

[runic parrot]

instead of stinky exposed

[hollow hawk]

oh true

yeah

[half zephyr]

Jolted is much better

[signal aspen]

i dont really care about curses

[half zephyr]

I run PS

[dusky wedge]

Yeah exposed needs more work to make it, err... work

[signal aspen]

i just want to get the extra 40% damage boost

[hollow hawk]

in conclusion, each god has their own purpose. You may like some gods, you may hate others. They're all pretty decently balanced!

[half zephyr]

I’m all about status effects

[signal aspen]

yes

[hollow hawk]

leading back to what i said like 5 mins ago lol

[half zephyr]

Plus I just like using status effects anyways

It’s fun to watch the enemies

[dusky wedge]

I find myself rarely using dio these days

[south comet]

Frankly I'm just waiting to get a god run on stygius

[half zephyr]

Sad, hangover is fun

[signal aspen]

dio has great boons

[hollow hawk]

i wanna try dio rail, havent tried it because i usually just use rail for speedrunning

[half zephyr]

And there’s so many trippy duos

[wide bison]

Especially with the bows special

[hollow hawk]

i heard its pretty good

[hollow hawk]

trippy

i see what you did there

[half zephyr]

?

[signal aspen]

trippy

[half zephyr]

I didn’t do anything

[south comet]

Not sure what's amazing on stygius though

[hollow hawk]

dio cast..?

[half zephyr]

I was referring to trippy shot

[hollow hawk]

shadow dont be acting

[signal aspen]

dio cast is alright

[half zephyr]

Most dio duos are about trippy shot

[hollow hawk]

that is what i was referring to, too

no, two dio duos are about trippy

[half zephyr]

I wasn’t trying to do a joke or pun

[hollow hawk]

dem and zeus

[signal aspen]

i feel like its only good when you make a build based around it

[hollow hawk]

while three are for hangover

[hollow hawk]

ah, mb

[signal aspen]

other than that i dont use it

[hollow hawk]

the biggest downside for me on trippy shot is that it doesnt lodge

so i cant get boiling blood

[signal aspen]

at least it can stun enemies

[unborn ermine]

It also has the highest base damage of any cast

[sudden tangle]

If yall don't thank your shade fan in elysium, you are not a good person

[unborn remnant]

Morning all

or afternoon

europe

[sudden tangle]

Sup, how are you?

[runic parrot]

sometimes i just forget they exist

i like zooming too much

[sudden tangle]

That makes you a mediocre person

Not intentionally hurting the good shades feeling, but doing it none the less

[runic parrot]

a mediocre person with a sub 18 rta time 😎

[hollow hawk]

i got a 17min rta time while thanking the shade

beat that

[runic parrot]

oh i will

spite fuels my runs so you just wait

[sudden tangle]

Alright, next question, favorite weapon aspect?

[runic parrot]

this is less spite and more oneupmanship

[hollow hawk]

personally, probably zeus shield or eris rail

[sudden tangle]

Hell yeah, zeus shield is amazing. I aint really a fan of the rail as a whole tho

[half zephyr]

Zag fist \0/

For the most fun runs

For more serious fun runs idk

Beyblade is always fun, but so is both pinballs

[sudden tangle]

If I could wield hades spear and zeus shield at the same time, I could fight the entirety of olympus and pull a kratos

[half zephyr]

Nem is cool & Arthur is nice if I want a relaxing run

[runic parrot]

my absolute fav is still the poseidon sword

[half zephyr]

The less said about bow the better..

[runic parrot]

eris and zeus is up there

[final trellis]

zues is so good

[half zephyr]

And Eris is fun, even if I often forget to bomb myself

[sudden tangle]

Alright, to further divide this chat, favorite god duo?

[runic parrot]

cant really say

it depends on what im running

[sudden tangle]

Man, am I really the odd man out not liking the rail?

[half zephyr]

Depends on what I’m running

And when I get it

[runic parrot]

but because i like casting, probably mirage shot

[hollow hawk]

probably merciful end or heartrend

[half zephyr]

If I can get the always epic duo early in tart then yes

[hollow hawk]

mirage shot is the duo that i see the most but take the least

[half zephyr]

If I get it in styx then no

[final trellis]

hunting blades

[sudden tangle]

Alright, easier question, which is your most favorite single boon, that you snag regardless of what you run?

[hollow hawk]

because poseidon and arty are almost always in my speedrunning god pool, so i see it so often

and i never take it

[half zephyr]

Don’t have any?

[final trellis]

tidal dash

[hollow hawk]

^^

[half zephyr]

Any status boon I guess

[sudden tangle]

I love ares and aphrodite

[half zephyr]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sudden tangle]

for duo

[hollow hawk]

dont have any tbh

[final trellis]

same