h1-discussion

[quaint pagoda]

Also Dusa just friendzoned me.. just need to wait for the ambrosia

[tepid plover]

Everyone takes the ambrosia back

Poor dusa

[grand crystal]

i didnt, i wasnt going to do that to her >:(

she deserves the ambro

[tepid plover]

Finally

Someone

[quaint pagoda]

I'm saving on the eldest sigil now.

Only got 720 darkness now

[tepid plover]

8888 darkness ptsd

[grand crystal]

it was lowkey a waste :/

isnt even any cool dialogue

[tepid plover]

Meh

Better use than the badges

[quaint pagoda]

I feel your pain

Thankfully it's more forgiving now

[brisk trail]

dam

8888

[grand crystal]

its not worth it 😔

they dont have any cool lines unlike pat/achilles

[brisk trail]

true

[desert meadow]

I know Poseidon’s dash isn’t one of the requirements for sea storm, but can it still gain the effects of sea storm?

[brisk trail]

i appreciate that theseus isnt the main character like it was planned

he makes a better jerk boss

with his >:3 face

theseus

oh

the bf of asterius

[runic parrot]

it does

sea storm affects ALL knock away effects btw

not just from poseidon's boons

[desert meadow]

Ooooooo

That’s very good to know

[timber valley]

It pairs really well with the shield

[grand crystal]

i thought it was only pos stuff??

huh

neat

tbh i wish there was a training room where you can get boon effects to lab things out

instead of needing to dedicate a whole run to it

[runic parrot]

skelly and the olympians should hang out

[tepid plover]

What other use does darkness have late game lol

[runic parrot]

chaos theme and the ranks

pretty useless

i wish chaos had more lines when ||you reunite them with nyx||

like ach and pat

[unborn remnant]

chaos is just out here

[runic parrot]

theyre just vibin

[unborn remnant]

existing

[grand crystal]

hence why i feel like its a waste of 8888 darkness

[unborn remnant]

"so im just vibin right"

[tepid plover]

The mini badges yeah id say the sigil is pretty worth it

[runic parrot]

i dont think so tbh

its too much darkness for too little value

[grand crystal]

like its cool for the first 5 minutes

[runic parrot]

i guess the value of reuniting family is no cost to measure

heh

[quaint pagoda]

its only 3200 now you know

[grand crystal]

wut

[quaint pagoda]

On pc at least they changed it

[grand crystal]

i did the 8888 for nothing

)_)

.>

excuse me

wtf

[quaint pagoda]

Idk if they cahnged it on switch or not but on pc it's now 3212 I think

[brazen lagoon]

It's 3242 or something

[grand crystal]

i think its still 8888

oh

maybe

idk

i could be dumb

[brazen lagoon]

It's not 8888

[tepid plover]

Badges cost more and they have even less value

[brazen lagoon]

Maybe it was in EA but not anymore

[quaint pagoda]

it's 3142, checked the wiki

[runic parrot]

still too much really

[runic parrot]

lol i dont really care about the badges

[grand crystal]

better spent on resource manager :3

[runic parrot]

but this is story stuff

i wish there were more dialogue to end with on the storyline

[brazen lagoon]

I mean it did ask for a huge sum of darkness

[runic parrot]

its just kinda, eh i guess

[unborn remnant]

some story is better than no story

also what is chaos gonna say

[tepid plover]

I kinda wish you could give darkness and gems to pat and eurydice like you can bouldy, that way that currency would have a meaning late game

[shy tartan]

fellas, how do i complete the dusa ark thing? please use ||spoilers|| for newer players

[tepid plover]

Spoilers are allowed here, maybe ask in #h1-for-new-players ?

[shy tartan]

no, i mean im okay with spoilers, i just don't wanna spoil things for passerbys just lookin at the chat

[tepid plover]

By her ark you mean the lounge thing?

[shy tartan]

yeah, ||shes missing and i dont know how to get her to reappear||

[tepid plover]

Oh

Lol

She'll come back

[shy tartan]

how long does it take tho?

[tepid plover]

I dont have specifics on that

Sorry

[shy tartan]

its all right

you sure its just a time thing?

[tepid plover]

Again, idk specifics sorry. But for me, she came back eventually

If I did something to trigger it, Im unsure

[karmic trellis]

help

i need to fight theseus but some stupid chaos boon gave me 50% reduced speed

what do i do

[tepid plover]

Be careful

And pray

[karmic trellis]

that's all i need

worship and prayer

🙏

amen

[tepid plover]

Glad you specified

Had a different wap in mind

[karmic trellis]

dirty boy

[brazen lagoon]

now from the top

make it drop

[karmic trellis]

GET A MOP AND BROOM

[tepid plover]

To prevent this, count how many chambers till a boss fight before you take a chaos boon

[karmic trellis]

"for the blood i will steal from this blackguard!"

[brazen lagoon]

macaroni in a pot

[karmic trellis]

idk the lyrics

i only know the mop and broom part

then the line after mop and broom but rule 2

[brazen lagoon]

its bucket and a mop btw

not mop and broom

[karmic trellis]

Of course you would know!

[brazen lagoon]

👀

[karmic trellis]

anyway i fight thesus

*theseus

[brazen lagoon]

the sus 😳

[karmic trellis]

actually no it's thesus. he is amogus reference

ok i beat him

battie has my back

[brazen lagoon]

you beat the sus

[karmic trellis]

Crewmates Win

also only took 40 damages

not to brag or anything

[grand crystal]

now do it hitless

[karmic trellis]

no

[grand crystal]

i think i have once :3

well "hitless"

acorn is pog

[brazen lagoon]

i've beat dad hitless but not heroes

or meg

[karmic trellis]

i'll do it once i don't move slower than master oogways less talented cousin

[brazen lagoon]

or lernie

[charred anchor]

hey guys quick psa that chaos uses they/them 😐 not to anyone in particular but i see people misgender them constantly and its getting on my nerves

[hasty owl]

the embodiment of chaos being enby is so accurate tho

[carmine ravine]

It doesnt matter

[dusky wedge]

I’ll admit, I kinda confuse the term “they” to mean Chaos is many, rather than being non-binary

I swear, I so often get confuse when people called themselves they and I was looking around for their friends lol

[modern arch]

I mean, they is both many and nonb

Like how We can mean many, or it can b the royal We

[dusky wedge]

That’s the thing, it has always mean both of those things

And thus always feels confusing to me

[charred anchor]

Actually it does matter, its super rare to have a nonbinary fictional character and its not cool when people erase that by using he/him pronouns for them

[dusky wedge]

More not about erasing and more about people actually get legit confused because they don’t know anything about what’s going on tbh

Took me some time to realize Chaos is non-binary, ngl

[charred anchor]

Yeah like i said im just giving a quick psa so people are aware, not tryna point fingers

[dusky wedge]

It’s going to get better over time as more people know about it, if that helps

[granite ether]

Every single reference to chaos in game is using they/them pronouns :3

[dusky wedge]

Yep, exactly got what you mean there, don’t worry

[charred anchor]

Also to the person that gets confused about singular they because its often used to denote a group, i am a swarm of bees in a trenchcoat so thats why i use they/them

Hope that clears things up

[edgy grove]

Also, it's something that people use in the singular all the time without thinking about it. "I went to the Doctor today" "Oh yeah, what did they say?"

[runic parrot]

i like to think the body of chaos that we see in the sprite is absolutely massive, looming in the infinite darkness as they talk to zag

since they dont have an in-world sprite

[granite ether]

Just as an aside, singular 'they' has been used since 1375 and before singular 'you' was used

[charred anchor]

Oo yeah i saw some fanart like that and it was so cool

[edgy grove]

So like, it's not that unusual, so if you aren't good at it, maybe just practice?

[runic parrot]

i should look that up that sounds awesome

[carmine ravine]

Eh personally i dont think the representation add anything to the character or the story, thus even if someone misgendering it doesnt really matter in the grand scheme of things

[edgy grove]

Well, it's not for you.

It's for us.

[charred anchor]

Maybe you just dont think it matters because youre used to seeing yourself represented

[carmine ravine]

Agree to disagree then

[dusky wedge]

For me, I think it’s because English is my second language, maybe?

[charred anchor]

Actually we cant here

Just dont misgender people??

Whether theyre fictional or not

[edgy grove]

I mean if you disagree that representation matters, there's a WHOLE lot of articles to read about why that's the case.

[carmine ravine]

Okay sure

[edgy grove]

Because when you misgender fictional people real people can hear you and get hurt, so yeah.

[dusky wedge]

So, seeing languages evolve is something when it’s not happening in your face, rather, on a global scale, takes some time to get used too

[charred anchor]

Yeah like personally as a nonbinary person representation matters to me a whole lot! This is a very similar issue as people whitewashing poc characters in fanart

[dusky wedge]

I’m seeing a lot more references about non-binary characters and people though, so I’m starting to get used of it and not suddenly forgets it’s a thing so often anymore

[edgy grove]

And like, I almost teared up hearing all of the characters casually referring to Chaos as They/them so yeah, it matters.

[charred anchor]

Ngl same 🥺

[edgy grove]

And like, it's something that really makes me feel included and cared for with SGG that I don't get from Most other games.

[charred anchor]

Yeah i understand it takes time to get used to! It did for me too. The important thing to remember is to listen to marginalized groups and their experiences and correct yourself if you mess up

[narrow hemlock]

Friendly reminder that misgendering would break rule 1 of our guidelines Just because it is not an issue to someone is not an "agree to disagree"

1. Be kind. This is an international, diverse community whose common ground is an interest in our games. As a member of this community, we expect you to contribute to an environment where everyone feels welcome and included. Be accepting and respectful. Avoid being inflammatory.

[winter harbor]

I'm pretty sure shakespeare used singular they

[charred anchor]

I mean people use singular they all the time not just for nb people! Like for people whose gender you dont know

[edgy grove]

Like this lol

[dusky wedge]

Yes

[edgy grove]

Lol, Skelly telling Zagreus to spend all his money every time. ||Charon, that was your whole play with hiring Skelly, wasn't it?||

[light siren]

Does chaos' +attack boon increase damage from zeus' storm lightning attack boon?

[edgy grove]

I think so, but I'm not 100% sure. Might be a question for #h1-builds-and-combat ?

[light siren]

Thanks

[graceful valve]

Guys I just started my 100th run I have never played any game to this extent before HELP

[twin moat]

||BRUH WHY IS CHARON SO TOUGH LMAO||

[unkempt sleet]

He's not that bad once you get to know him

The trick is to dash behind him

[twin moat]

I mean, yes, but his damage output and hp are pretty insane

[graceful valve]

okay i clicked on it and accidentally spoiled it for mysef

myself*

[twin moat]

Damnit

[half zephyr]

He’s a sweetie once you get to know him

And his patterns

[manic moat]

yea

[surreal condor]

Charon's attacks are fairly easy to dodge, but he does SO MUCH DAMAGE

70 damage with one swing of that damn oar, is that what it's called? And oar?

[half zephyr]

it's an oar

he's got strenght from paddling up & down the rivers all the time

[kind skiff]

Imagine if there was an extreme measures level for him

[manic moat]

nah that's just

nah

[runic parrot]

em5: ||charon steals gigaros||

[rapid forum]

upon defeating ||EM4||, ||Charon|| picks up Gigaros

if that happened I'd probably need to change my pants

[manic moat]

that needs to be a comic or something

also this is so much spoilers lmao

[rapid forum]

fair just gonna censor mine

[hasty owl]

||em5: charon smacks you with a boat||

[tight cave]

||em4.5: Hades piggybacks Charon while Charon swings his oar around uncontrollably||

[manic moat]

||em10000: hades and charon spar while you're caught in the middle, and theseus asterius and the furies have a dance fight||

[vale kite]

||EM666: the storyteller himself helps hades during the final fight with his weaponized narration||

[manic moat]

||hades gets rammed by a goat, falls on banana peel and then sneezes||

[vale kite]

||for example he's gonna say smth like "and suddenly the floor opened under the prince's feet, revealing a bunch of very pointy spears at the bottom of it" and a giant hole appears in the room with spears at the bottom of it||

||"the god of the dead channels all of his might into his next attack, determined to end the prince's attempt to escape" -> next attack insta-kills you||

[runic parrot]

chat lookin like the cia factbook

im sad that we'll never get an explanation how ||zag and the narrator can interact with each other||

[manic moat]

[redacted]

[rapid forum]

plot twist, ||Zag IS the Narrator||

||it's just his inner monologue||

[manic moat]

||"Alright kids, let me tell you how I met my mother"||

[gaunt ridge]

is this underworld security record?

[surreal condor]

This conversation looks like an scp article

[tight cave]

||"For some unknown reason, the prince's attempt to evade death did not work as planned" -> Death Defiance restores less HP||

[vale kite]

that's what i'm talking about

[bright flame]

I'm seriously thinking about buying Hades, but it still costs a lot of money. Talk me out of it please.

[vale kite]

not really the best place for that 🥴

[tight cave]

You're trying to get a Discord chat that's all about Hades to talk you out of buying Hades? Good luck with that.

[charred saffron]

could just wait for a sale or somethin

[bright flame]

it's on sale right now

[charred saffron]

oh dang really?

[bright flame]

daily steam deal for -20

[charred saffron]

$20 is a pretty good price for a game like this

or however much 20 USD translates to in your own currency

[bright flame]

comparable to 20USD. But because of corona I don't work as often so I have less money to spend.

man it's a hard one

[tight cave]

Absolute steal honestly, you won't get much better value for money on all of Steam than that. I doubt it'll go lower any time soon, the Steam sales for Hades seem to be capped at 20% looking at how the Winter Sale was at least.

[bright flame]

alright if I could choose one, Factorio or Hades?

[charred saffron]

dunno much about factorio so im gonna say hades

[bright flame]

alright i'll bite

[hybrid snow]

Usually I keep Pom Blossom on all the time, but last time I got only dash/call for core boons so I swapped to shackle in Elysium
WELL i forgot to switch it back and I got mediocre boons this time so I gave up on the run and sold them all and suddenly I'm actually doing damage to things

🤦‍♀️

[runic parrot]

factorio is a game where you either love it to death or hate it

unless youre really into that kind of micromanagement i wouldnt recommend it

that's not for this chat anyway lol

[runic parrot]

you cant use keepsakes youve already used

if you've changed it

[hybrid snow]

I meant between runs, not regions

[runic parrot]

ah

you mentioned switching to shackle in elysium so i just kinda assumed

[hybrid snow]

Yeah oops

I'm just fascinated by my own stupidity and how badly this worked out

Brb dying to rats

[unborn remnant]

hello hades fans

[rich acorn]

Does Chaos's affluence effect side hustle?

[uncut ore]

https://imgur.com/a/2IB3aoV aaaa this is so hard

I have 2dds

and am very low on HP

but if i take divine strike I can get so many duos

ugh

athena's aid is pretty meh tho

+74% melee dmg is a lot

[hollow hawk]

what

[uncut ore]

compared to the 2 others

[hollow hawk]

id probably take the dd considering youre still in asphodel

but then again, im not the one playing the game

[uncut ore]

but even in general its one of the weaker aids

[hollow hawk]

you do whatever ya want

[hollow hawk]

no

its not

[uncut ore]

yeah I took dd at the end

[hollow hawk]

athena aid is very good especially if youre pushing heat

[uncut ore]

yeah im at 0 heat rn

[hollow hawk]

it doesnt do any dmg sure, but the protection you get from it is good

[uncut ore]

w/ gun

[hollow hawk]

gun builds up aid pretty quick

[uncut ore]

also

is there any downside to using aid in normal chambers?

like

do I just use it whenever I can?

[hollow hawk]

use it whenever you can, indeed

using it in one chamber doesnt affect the next one

[uncut ore]

btw im absolutely swimming in choros

I usually keep all my choros untill I get the the styx

[runic agate]

I has beat pfp

[uncut ore]

then I buy the blood or the diamond

is that a good idea?

I sometimes buy the things from the well of charon if theyre very cheap and very strong

but I usually avoid shops

[runic agate]

Best pfp*

[bright flame]

is it me or is the shield OP

[uncut ore]

yep it sure is

[bright flame]

just got that weapon and I got to act 3 ez

[uncut ore]

lmao what

am I gonna fight charon?

damn this music is fire

wtf is erebus

did he tranfer me to another dimenstion just to 1v1 me?

do I lose relationship points for stealing from him and then killing him?

[rustic sorrel]

no you get a discount on his stuff for the remainder of the run

[uncut ore]

lmao what?

"you literally killed me so you get a discount"

[rustic sorrel]

respect discount

[uncut ore]

nooo he killed me

[wide bison]

Is it just me or does hades get stronger every run?

As he can like 4 shot me now

[uncut ore]

how often do I get to fight him?

[rustic sorrel]

yeah he hits HARD

[wide bison]

I had all of my death defiance’s and lost

Probably because I’m bad lmao

[rustic sorrel]

its random, only get the chance when your in his room and its not the final chamber before stage boss

[uncut ore]

ok

[half zephyr]

Someone said it’s a 22% chance to find or smth

Only mid level shops

[half zephyr]

”The word Erebus was also used to indicate a region of the Underworld where the dead would go immediately after dying.”

[wide bison]

What run does it become available?

[half zephyr]

Idk, prolly tied to your friendship meter with Charon

[wide bison]

Oh

It’s on like 1 heart for me lmao

[half zephyr]

[grand crystal]

ik im a bit late but to my knowledge erebus is tied to the contractor

you buy the gates, and then you need to meet certain heat reqs (5/10/15) to enter the portals

[placid wigeon]

tips for using dash-upper on malphon on gamepad? i wanna run gilgamesh but having trouble pressing a and y comfortably on my xbox controller

[grand crystal]

the game gives you a generous window to dash attack/special so you can have a put of space in between

but if you want you could always rebind

i play dem fists and never liked how dash upper felt

[placid wigeon]

yea its not that its hard to pull off, just annoying

[uncut ore]

yeah same

[charred anchor]

well theres two ways to enter erebus, with the gates and by stealing from charon

[grand crystal]

yea but the boss is seperate

since charon put you there

vs. the gates being voluntary

the general gates are via contractor and stealing charons money i think is just luck

[charred anchor]

yeah

[cunning sequoia]

heyy

ı have something to ask about the curse of the dead gods

[half zephyr]

?

[cunning sequoia]

they say it is like hades

is it really

[half zephyr]

Not sure this is the right channel

[cunning sequoia]

which channel is the right channel

[half zephyr]

#video-games

[cunning sequoia]

oke

[runic sparrow]

nice

22 minute run with Arthur

[narrow hemlock]

https://twitter.com/katietiedrich/status/1368647947152334849 this just popped on my feed

Katie Tiedrich (@katietiedrich)

Thanatos please https://t.co/bi28wS6NN6

▶ Play video

Twitter · Mar 7, 2021, 7:41 PM

[grand crystal]

lmaaoooo

he doesnt know where to go

[rough hazel]

"crush is here! Quick act naturally!"

[runic sparrow]

snrrrk

also "Haste of Hermes" get

\o/

[runic sparrow]

oh damn

just got "Exclusive Access" while still in Tartarus

[grand crystal]

epic

[gray apex]

literally

[grand crystal]

lol

[lost wolf]

I’ve never seen this before, but I don’t have a single boon in my Styx shop

[runic sparrow]

I've seen it a couple times

pretty much all poms?

holy crap hades MELTED that time

[restive cave]

is aspect of gilgamesh the worst hidden aspect? lol

[grand crystal]

its alright

and imo arthur/luci suck

more dashes is always nice

and maim does a lot of damage and giving you a buff is nice

[restive cave]

it gives them a buff too doesnt it

[grand crystal]

it rewards you for being evasive

[grand crystal]

yea 50%

just dodge :/

and its a global buff i think

so its pretty good

[restive cave]

skelly almost killed me with that buff

[grand crystal]

i play on hl5 lc4 so im used to high damage

[grand crystal]

50% honestly isnt thta bad

especially if you arent in hell mode so you dont have to deal with personal liability

[desert meadow]

Arthur is fun though

It hits so darn hard

[grand crystal]

but slow

and special is really niche ngl

[desert meadow]

Beowolf is slow too yet you seem fine with it

Even Rama is slower then the normal bow

So what makes Arthur so bad?

[grand crystal]

beo is a cast weapon

and not that slow

and rama if you dahs attack its not slow at all

feels like standing powershot on a normal bow if you dash attack

[desert meadow]

They're still slower overall

Every hidden is tbh

[grand crystal]

yeaa

i just dont like how arthur feels

the gimmick isnt as cool for me

[desert meadow]

Fair enough

[half zephyr]

I have yet to feel like Arthur is slow

But I guess I just get enough speed that it doesn’t register

Plus it’s hard to think it’s slow when I can just instakill most enemies by using special
And I don’t mean the sigil

[opal oar]

i LOVE arthur sigil

[half zephyr]

Just regular special after the sigil

For some reason I always end up with a great dmg boost on it

[opal oar]

oh like what are you gonna do? hit me with an evil orb? on my playmat of invincibility?

[unborn remnant]

https://imgur.com/a/JuoCYdj

imo

[half zephyr]

Idk what that means

[opal oar]

me either

[grand crystal]

ewww zag rail

[unborn remnant]

aspects tier list

[grand crystal]

tier list

[opal oar]

ew any rail

[unborn remnant]

did i get them mixed up

[half zephyr]

I can’t recognize what’s what

[opal oar]

(i still have not worked out how to use the rail)

[grand crystal]

im fine with hestia and eris

[unborn remnant]

I meant that to be Eris

[half zephyr]

I figured it was a tier list

[unborn remnant]

yeah wrong aspect

[half zephyr]

But I don’t know which aspect is what based on pictures

[grand crystal]

ahh ok

[unborn remnant]

replace Zag with Eris, and vice versa

[half zephyr]

So it just doesn’t make sense

[grand crystal]

bruh i thought you played hades 😔

[opal oar]

idk what I do wrong with rail i just find it SO hard

[desert meadow]

Since y'all are confused by pics, I'll just join in via text lol

[half zephyr]

I don’t look at pictures

[opal oar]

I think its bc i have to stay still to shoot it

[grand crystal]

imo hestia should be at least B

same with gy

[half zephyr]

I don’t look at what the aspects look like >.>
You’re talking to the girl who didn’t even notice Arthur was a giant glowing sword the size of zag

[crisp kestrel]

Redownlaoding hades, trying to beat the final boss

[grand crystal]

lol

[opal oar]

How?

but.... big glowstick

[half zephyr]

My eyes kinda just glance over things I’m not interested in

[crisp kestrel]

I choose boons for personality not gameplay, which is probably really stupid

[half zephyr]

And I abhor light

[unborn remnant]

S: Rama, Eris, Hera, Poseidon, Beowulf
A: Zeus, Chaos, Lucifer, Chiron, Nemesis, Gilgamesh
B: Demeter, Arthur, Achilles, Talos
C: Hestia, Zag Fists, Hades, Guan Yu, Zag Rail, Zag Sword
D: Zag Bow, Zag Spear, Zag Shield

translated into text

[half zephyr]

Ty

I won’t say I agree with all your choices

But I can respect them

[grand crystal]

my tier list not in priority is like
S: rama, eris, pos, beo
A: hera, chiron, zeus, nem
B: hestia, chaos, dem, gy,
C: talos, gilga, hades/achilles
D: all zag aspects, luci, arthur

i might be missing some

but thats my general love for the aspects

[half zephyr]

And you know why I can’t handle some of your S tiers

[unborn remnant]

yeah

[crisp kestrel]

I really like hestia because without it I forget casts exists and it makes getting all casts in easier

[unborn remnant]

Rama is really good for high heat, Hera/Eris/Beowulf for speedruns

poseidons good for casts

[half zephyr]

I don’t wanna play hades atm

Cuz I know what’s waiting for me when I enter the game

[unborn remnant]

Lucifer is fun with zeus attack

[grand crystal]

what is??

[half zephyr]

The Bow

[grand crystal]

lmao

[half zephyr]

[opal oar]

it's not, I spent like, a zillion runs doing only dio and aphrodite boons bc they had the best vibes

[grand crystal]

pos is also a good cast for it

zeus is also alright for it

i prefer arte/aphro/dio on hera tho

[crisp kestrel]

😳 me finding out my favourite weapons probably suck

[half zephyr]

And I have to do another Rama run to give it a fair go

Which I don’t want to

[grand crystal]

there isnt a bad weapon dw lol

[unborn remnant]

hot take

[half zephyr]

We just have varying opinions on weapons is all

[unborn remnant]

shield is the best of all the weapons when you take all 4 aspects into account

[half zephyr]

Due to playstyle

[grand crystal]

BAD TAKE BAD TAKE

[half zephyr]

Not when you don’t bull rush!

[grand crystal]

i like bow the most so :3

[crisp kestrel]

Also dumb question but can you romance multiple characters or just one? I still dont understand how romance works in this game?

[unborn remnant]

Bow is also very good

close 2nd

[half zephyr]

Hidden is useless when you don’t do bull rush XD

[grand crystal]

yea you can romance all 3

well

[half zephyr]

It’s Greek myth

[grand crystal]

2 1/2

[half zephyr]

Ofc you can go poly

[unborn remnant]

I think the difference is Chaos Shield > Chiron Bow

[desert meadow]

Based on my personal opinions, here, how many takes do y'all find terrible? lol

S tier - Chiron, Hera
A tier - Chaos, Zeus, Rama, Eris, Poseidon, Demeter, Zag Bow
B tier - Arthur, Achilles, Talos, Hades, Gilgamesh, Beowolf, Nemesis, Zag Sword, Zag Fists, Zag Rail
C tier - Lucifer, Hestia, Zag Shield, Zag Spear
D tier - Guan Yu

[crisp kestrel]

Zagreus harem

[grand crystal]

😔

[half zephyr]

No

[half zephyr]

No harem

Everyone is free to date whoever

In a harem that is not the case

[grand crystal]

lol hades is a harem anime

[unborn remnant]

chaos shield is very good, zeus shield has crazy potential, beowulf is insane for speedruns

[half zephyr]

In a harem they belong to the main protagonist

[crisp kestrel]

Zagreus poly relationship
Zagreus poly relationship

[half zephyr]

In hades the main protagonist belongs to the love interests more then anything

ESP one of them

[grand crystal]

rama is also crazy for speed, hera is a good cast wep, and chiron is also crazy, and zag bow is seen as the most standout zag aspect

[half zephyr]

[grand crystal]

gy is alright

and hestia deserves B

[half zephyr]

I’ll still not agree on S tier, but I can respect it

Now excuse me while I go suck at FPS again

[desert meadow]

Hestia would be higher if I can figure out to use it better

So for now it's just ok

[grand crystal]

bye shadow :3

[grand crystal]

lol i just always reload and take aphro

[desert meadow]

Reloading is so slow though, aren't you suppose to use other moves too?

[grand crystal]

you can cancel the animation with special/dash

[desert meadow]

ohhhhhhhh

[grand crystal]

like it takes the same time but youll be able to move

like reload > dash

you can move while it spends the last second

[desert meadow]

That is helpful to know

[narrow hemlock]

none? its all down to personal player preference, and thats totally ok

there are some aspects that objectively are going to fall off in usefulness at higher difficulty but thats not even something that should be a concern to the vast majority of the playerbase

just like.. play whats fun to you

[unborn remnant]

Chiron just doesn't seem as efficient to me

single targets on an already slow special

[grand crystal]

but it kills super fast

to me it feels fast anyway

[desert meadow]

Chiron is pretty fast

Especially if you get ps on it

[grand crystal]

^^def

chiron is an ez ps weapon

and with relentless + concentrated

or like charged volley

very cool

[unborn remnant]

I get it though

Bow Gang strong

[desert meadow]

Chaos is good too honestly, I just think Chiron can cut down single targets faster, while Chaos is better group control.

You're not really gonna hit one enemy with all of your special's shields, whereas Chiron's special is made to do just that.

[unborn remnant]

maybe I just prefer area control over single target

[desert meadow]

Could be

Both have their uses

[crisp kestrel]

Lol I just realized I got heras and hestias name mixed up somehow

[grand crystal]

i mean they are both H

and have some sort of fire/hearth connection i think

[crisp kestrel]

Wait so is aspect of hera the best, aspect?

Or is it aspect of chiron?

[grand crystal]

its pretty good

[crisp kestrel]

Because I use hera alot

[grand crystal]

both are good

cast weapons are really good

[crisp kestrel]

My friend says the bow is lame

[grand crystal]

chiron is fun but i would say is a bit worse since casts can = aoe

[crisp kestrel]

But it's so good

[grand crystal]

your friend is wrong

[desert meadow]

^

[grand crystal]

i bet they play like marth or something in smash

[desert meadow]

Nah, Marth has being the first FE lord going for him, Chrom would be worse

[crisp kestrel]

He uses the lance and sword

[unborn remnant]

bow good

[grand crystal]

nah chrom is cool

roy tho

[desert meadow]

Roy's got fire though

[crisp kestrel]

Bow is good but can annoying to consistently press Y all the time?

[grand crystal]

but hes a button mash that screams a lot and is from a game we cant even play in america wihout breaking laws

[crisp kestrel]

Which is why I like rapid fire upgrade

The rapid fire upgrade on the bow is so broken

I love it

[desert meadow]

Y for me is special so uh, what are you referring to?

[grand crystal]

do you not dash attack??

like

add an extra button

also every weapon has you press the attack button a lot without the flurry buffs :/

[desert meadow]

Uh, his game (Blazing Blade, or just Fire Emblem) was the first one localized into English.

[grand crystal]

im assuming xbox controller

[grand crystal]

no

blazing sword is

and thats eliwood

his dad

[desert meadow]

Yeah, I said the wrong name

They're both bbs so

also, really, only binding was localized?

[grand crystal]

lol but yea fe7 was the first localized and that has eliwood, hector, and lyn as main lords

binding blade was never localized :/

people just rom it and emulate it

[desert meadow]

HA

Fire Emblem (Japanese: ファイアーエムブレム 烈火の剣 Fire Emblem: The Sword of Raging Fire), retroactively subtitled The Blazing Blade, is a Game Boy Advance game released in 2003, and later re-released on the Wii U Virtual Console in 2014. It is the seventh game in the Fire Emblem series, the second game in the series to be released on the Game Boy Advance, and was the series' first internationally-released title, spurred on by the sparking of interest in the series caused by Super Smash Bros. Melee and the recent release of Advance Wars[1].

** was the series' first internationally-released title**

[grand crystal]

yea blazing sword

eliwood

not roy

roy is binding blade

[desert meadow]

oh

I'm so dumb

Ignore me

[grand crystal]

http://pm1.narvii.com/6921/1754fdd348bc5ec61ea8fbf0b92f5ef89079e67cr1-1024-768v2_uhq.jpg

^^eliwood

if itll load

[desert meadow]

I clearly haven't read the fe wiki enough

[narrow hemlock]

#video-games :)

[desert meadow]

I'm done anyway

[grand crystal]

lol yea our bad tatz

yea me too

[desert meadow]

I'm gonna go grab food so

[grand crystal]

ight have fun

[tepid summit]

hey super super quick question

can Rupture be applied to Hades? i'm co-piloting my friend who's newer to Hades rn and she's still trying to get her first win

[grand crystal]

yes, ruptured can be applied to any enemy

any curse can be applied to any enemy for that matter

[tepid summit]

okay, but Hades can't be knocked away

[grand crystal]

but it still applies :3

[tepid summit]

even still, Ruptured can be applied, because Ruptured is just applied through any skill that induces Knockback

right?

[grand crystal]

yes

[tepid summit]

tight!!

thank you so much

[grand crystal]

as long as it has the knock back property it applies

[tepid summit]

i'll introduce myself properly later

[grand crystal]

yea ofc np

[tepid summit]

i'm like 86 escape attempts, best is 12 win streak? got out w every weapon and pact now

[grand crystal]

oh nice

[tepid summit]

so i'm into the like... intermediate skill maybe?

[grand crystal]

im on like escape 130 ish and my best streak is like 30 something, i play this game too much

eh idk whats really considered "intermediate" in this game

i like to think im on kinda high skill but im still not that great at the game :/

but yea if you ever have questions feel free to come here

ive been playing hades since really early early access and other people have been playing for a while too so we're happy to answer any question!

[unborn remnant]

ive done exactly 100 runs

i dont know if im good though

like i have a 15 run winstreak or something?

[quaint pagoda]

Well I just rejected meg

[grand crystal]

cool

i romanced her for the sake of dialogue

[final trellis]

how do you romance her I want her companion

[quaint pagoda]

Give her ambrosia

[grand crystal]

^^that

and lots of dialogue

[quaint pagoda]

You only need to give her one to get the companion, more if you want to choose between romancing her or being friends

[final trellis]

can you only romance meg and thantos

[heady stream]

Yep

[grand crystal]

yea meg and than

[quaint pagoda]

Dusa just rejects u

[grand crystal]

dusa is a friend zone situation

[quaint pagoda]

Plum

[final trellis]

dusa really that's a surprise

i thought she would say yes

[tepid plover]

She's special like that

[quaint pagoda]

To unlock athena ||I need to beat the game 3 times with her appearing in the run to get her congrates message?||

[tepid plover]

Unlock her favor?

[quaint pagoda]

Yea unlock her key heart

[grand crystal]

i honestly dont know

it sorta just happened for me

id say check the wiki

[quaint pagoda]

So yea it seems I need to finish 3 runs with her boon, I think I'll also take Ares because I need to give him hearts, at least I already fulfilled his favour

So 5 Athena and Ares runs, that would be interesting

[opal oar]

what does gilgamesh actually do?

[grand crystal]

essentially

[opal oar]

i unlocked it bc hehehehe kitty paws

[grand crystal]

your dash upper procks maim which is chunky doom that makes you deal +25% damage but take 50% more

you get 2 extra dashes(and now you cant mash but you can hold the button)

and your attack is slower but more wide

[opal oar]

oh! that explains where all my health went

[grand crystal]

lmao

yea and the damage buff for you is global i think

[opal oar]

hoo boy dad is gonna curbstomp me

[grand crystal]

man thats an image and a half

[opal oar]

so i should have been leaning way harder into dps than i have got it

[grand crystal]

ME is a pretty good gilga build from what ive heard

[opal oar]

ME?

[grand crystal]

merciful end

ares/athena duo

[opal oar]

oooh

[grand crystal]

just take athena special and dash, ares attack

and you just atack and dash repeatedly

and you can do some funny dash only builds too

[opal oar]

my go to is arthur sword revenge build

[grand crystal]

ahh i mean yea, i might do that as an afk build soon

[unborn remnant]

Arthur sword is not great imo

[brisk trail]

sweats in 100 escapes

i got this game like

2 months ago

oh wait escapes

[grand crystal]

yea im at like 100 + succesful escapes

[lethal island]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/410616262847365124/818270803212501012/unknown.png

[grand crystal]

lol

[twilit horizon]

0_О

[quaint pagoda]

Well I just got the origins of Zagreus's hard to understand myths

Good singing tho

[brisk trail]

apollo

i wish he were ehere

[opal oar]

if my favourite thing to do with spear is spin attack, would the hidden aspect be good?

[grand crystal]

i feel like hades aspect wolud be better

gy lowers your hp by 70% at base

50% at max

[opal oar]

aye yae yae

[grand crystal]

it also has a kinda big learning curve to get used to

[wise sparrow]

gy doesnt spin as much as youd think unless you get great hammer for it

[grand crystal]

^^

massive + quick tho

[wise sparrow]

the real bread n butter is dash atk and special

[grand crystal]

or arte charged skewer

but i only started liking it more recently

and i played when it came out

and im only liking it now

[opal oar]

dang

ive had this game like two weeks so

[grand crystal]

but if you like spinning i recommend hades spear

it ups the size of the spin

and those that are hit by the spin are marked and take more damage from attack and special

and if you get massive spin with hades spear

it almost takes up the whole screen

its very big at base and massive spin is just funny to take with it

so either quick+massive or the sturdy charge + quick are the go to's

(also you get funny dialogue in the hades fight)

[brisk trail]

I never use spinn

With the spear

I just jab and special

[grand crystal]

thats a pitfall imo

spin is really strong

especially with the right hammers and build

[opal oar]

special is fun tho

like yoinking the spear back and forth thru an enemy? so fun

[grand crystal]

the hidden special is more fun imo

[half zephyr]

I don’t like the spin cuz it breaks my flow

[grand crystal]

since its massive, and you dont need to retrieve

and deals a lot of damage with the right setup

but normally i default to hades spear :/

[half zephyr]

Plum

You a bow guy

[grand crystal]

shadow

[half zephyr]

Rama

[grand crystal]

yes

yes

[half zephyr]

Attack

What

[grand crystal]

arte/aphro

[half zephyr]

[grand crystal]

either works really well

i recommend aphro tho

for weak

and easy ps setup

take a curse on your special

[half zephyr]

I’ll just have to face my fears tomorrow

[grand crystal]

lol ok

[half zephyr]

Curse?

[grand crystal]

status

[half zephyr]

Ty

[grand crystal]

the game calls it curses

np

[half zephyr]

I’m not sure I’d call a hangover a curse

[grand crystal]

at least i think its called curses

id have to look at ps on the mirror again

[half zephyr]

I know you got the chaos curses

And you have the curse upgrades

But I just thought they was called status effects

[grand crystal]

idk

i just remmeber curse for some reason

[half zephyr]

I’d always take status anyhow cuz ps

[grand crystal]

the mirror say swhat they are called on ps so ill check tonight

[grand crystal]

true

ps > family favorite 😎

unless youre running like hestia

[half zephyr]

Fam fave is nice, but I always favor status effects

In all games

[grand crystal]

i honestly never care about statuses in games besides hades/pokemon

or persona

since in those games they actually make a difference

[half zephyr]

I play some games that need them..

Cuz I’m impatient & go for enemies way above my level >.>

It’s why I usually favor the bow - sniping is love

[grand crystal]

lol

i just get good at the games movement and kill late game things early

[half zephyr]

Here it’s just not for me

[grand crystal]

lol

i just love bow

in most games i like bows

spears too :3

[half zephyr]

I’m a scaredy cat so I hide & throw & shoot things

[grand crystal]

lol

[half zephyr]

Then when I’m strong enough I rush in & just do melee

[grand crystal]

yeaaa

but for hades you cant do that ;w;

you have to get good

[half zephyr]

I’m gonna drag you to another channel now

Sorry

[trail jay]

I just played a run with the nastiest combo I've ever seen

[grand crystal]

oh?

[trail jay]

Bow with doom in special + impending doom + dire misfortune + aspect of chiron

[grand crystal]

ahhh yea i had that once

[trail jay]

I was absolutely destroying bosses w doom stacks lmao

[grand crystal]

was a very fun run

[trail jay]

its great, really fun

[grand crystal]

yeaaa

chiron is fun in general

[trail jay]

seeing 1k doom damage is amazing

[rapid forum]

I prefer chiron with demeter special

And arctic blast

Caveat is you need relentless volley

[grand crystal]

god i never get arctic blast

she has too many other boons so i never get what i want :/

[rapid forum]

Well I rarely get bad news or greater recall :///

[karmic trellis]

what are the chances of getting two duo boons at the same time https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/800967579920760855/818311813925568523/20210307183439_1.jpg

[grand crystal]

very low

[rapid forum]

Rare but duo-ble

Hehehehehehehehe

[grand crystal]

its happened to me a couple times

[karmic trellis]

ok just wondering

resume the convo i interrupted

[grand crystal]

have you gotten 5 duos in one run yet gerry??

since thats a trip

especially when none of them are the one you wanted

so none of them synergize

[karmic trellis]

tri[?

[grand crystal]

you just chose them for the funny of having 5 duos

there

[karmic trellis]

o

[grand crystal]

the bracket is right next to the p

[karmic trellis]

i understand

[rapid forum]

Lol

At most i get 4 duos

[karmic trellis]

sometimes i press enter instead of apostrophe

[rapid forum]

But they always synergize

[karmic trellis]

i'm not good at making builds

i just try to get to support fire as fast as possible

[grand crystal]

lol support fire

very fun boon

[karmic trellis]

it's how i got my first hades win, so it is forever in my debt

[grand crystal]

ahh

i like the boon

very fun

a nice damage buff

and makes dc nonexistant

[karmic trellis]

nice is an understatement

[grand crystal]

more than it already was

eh

its not a huge damage buff

so i cant say its amazing

but its also a pre req for arte legendary so :/

[karmic trellis]

well it's ten per arrow

take that as you will

i think it's good with bow and rail

i should clarify, bow with that daedalus upgrade

[grand crystal]

flurry bow

[karmic trellis]

yee

[grand crystal]

otherwise its garbage

and yea on rail its pog

[karmic trellis]

on bow yes

[grand crystal]

and zeus shield its fun

sword ill take it

spear eh

[karmic trellis]

you can't go wrong with support fire is what i'm saying

[grand crystal]

tbh arte has better choices :/

like hunters mark

or pressure points

[karmic trellis]

i know i just have respect for support fire

[grand crystal]

we all do

you just have more than I

[karmic trellis]

mmm

anyway

i game

👋

[carmine ravine]

If i have to choose between mark and support fore, ill take support fire any day

[grand crystal]

kk bye gerry

eh, depends on the build for me

if its like gy special setup then im taking hm

[hasty owl]

hey y’all

what do u think is better for a boonless run, hestia or rama?

[grand crystal]

both are super good

rama has better hammers tho

and will outdamage if you get hammers

[hasty owl]

yeah

i’m in ekysium w rama rn

it’s so slow tho

[grand crystal]

oh nice

[hasty owl]

i think i’m gonna keep going

[grand crystal]

imagine thinking rama is slow lol

[hasty owl]

but won’t be shocked if i die

i mean it is quite slow to get power shots

[runic parrot]

i dont generally do power shots on rama

only if im really far and dash striking lol

[hasty owl]

fair

[grand crystal]

i just love bow and think rama is epic

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/797948094297800796/818318372705271808/Ejm8MhJUcAAM2Cb.png

[runic parrot]

why.

[wise sparrow]

rama is great

[grand crystal]

“God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him."

[wise sparrow]

thats why

[brisk trail]

I hate rama

idk how to use it

tbf i havent upgraded the aspect

[grand crystal]

use special

then dash strike

thats about it

[brisk trail]

hmmm

[grand crystal]

make sure you have your target and if you can a majority of the room hit with the special

its arguably the best hidden aspect

[brisk trail]

I see

[runic parrot]

what about hidden fists

[grand crystal]

gilga is kinda eh ngl

like yea more dashes and maim is a global buff

but outside of that its kinda clunky and the damage taken being +50% when maimed is kinda poopy

[trail jay]

gilga is super fun yea

[modern arch]

Hey plumfox

I hate nipple karkat

[grand crystal]

wut

[trail jay]

I mean yea it may not be the best cost-benefit but it's fun

[grand crystal]

idk what that is :/

[modern arch]

U posted Zag karkat

[grand crystal]

oh

[modern arch]

He has a nipple, which is awful

[grand crystal]

someone just sent me it

[modern arch]

:/

[grand crystal]

specifically my stepbrother

[modern arch]

:(

[grand crystal]

like ik its homestuck

but i dont knwo the specifics

[modern arch]

It’s cursed

[grand crystal]

just that its cursed

yeaa

[brisk trail]

1 nipple

[plain smelt]

I wish I had an easier way to get nectar because the process is painfully slow and I just want to boost all the relationships and unlock all the lore!!!

[grand crystal]

take dio and hope for premium vintage lol

and also make sure you dont have dark foresight on

and take fated authority

[stoic violet]

What happens when you "stay back" in the competitions with Than like he says? He said it when I had the butterfly while meeting him?

[karmic trellis]

you lose :p

[stoic violet]

I'm pretty sure I did lose and nothing happened, is it just special dialogue for having his butterfly?

[karmic trellis]

all the characters have special dialogue for the keepsake they gave you but it's just a hey that happened moment

[stoic violet]

Ok, thanks!

[hollow hawk]

Its not a special dialogue for when you have the butterfly, its just a dialogue whenever you meet than

[dusky wedge]

Hera bow: lodge one stone inside your enemy first, then attacking with the two leftover cast loaded in, or just load all three into the first shot?

[hollow hawk]

i personally just lodge one cast, because most enemies atleast in tartarus, die with one or two casts anyway

so you can focus on killing the other enemies with your leftover casts

[vapid narwhal]

it doesnt matter most of the time

[minor pond]

just picked up the game today, it was amazing

[rotund galleon]

Enjoy lad

[high ridge]

kind of cheesed meg by using aegis and curse of pain

[rotund galleon]

That's fun

Especially against Alecto since she has a laceration fetish

[high ridge]

aphrodite kinda a bad woman to be with

[half zephyr]

How so?

[high ridge]

she kind a farming tool

[half zephyr]

Huh?

Wdym?

[high ridge]

she got a husband, but she naked all the time and she cheatin on her husband

[half zephyr]

You mean the husband she was forced to be married to

With no choice

She’s the goddess of love - she’s meant to be free

And maybe she’s a naturalist
Clothes be for mortals

[high ridge]

dat shibt nasty tho

[brazen lagoon]

i mean shes the goddess of love and pleasure and all that

what do you expect

[high ridge]

loyalty

[distant sequoia]

Great game out there

[high ridge]

lmao

[brazen lagoon]

loyalty to a husband she wasforced to marry?

dont think so

[distant sequoia]

wasn't convinced all those months about the graphics but then i like the plot and roguelite features

[half zephyr]

In some myths she was the mother of Eros too

[silk river]

Howdy, if I have one boon from a god and sell/ purge it, does that allow me to get a different god if that brings the number of different gods down to 3?

[high ridge]

bro have some simpathy with hephaestaus

[half zephyr]

I love Hephaestus, but that doesn’t mean I should look down on Aphrodite

He was forced into the marriage too

Blame Zeus

[brazen lagoon]

its not hepahestus' fault either

neither of them chose to marry each other

[half zephyr]

And Hera in the case of Hephaestus

[silk river]

Zeus is to blame for like 80% of the mythology's problems

[brazen lagoon]

true

[half zephyr]

Yup

[high ridge]

lots of gods are wrong

i think it was a parenting issue

[half zephyr]

Well ofc

You mean the parent that ate his kids

[silk river]

Also hephaestus created a guard dog to guard baby zeus. When he is a descendant of zeus... yup, makes sense

[half zephyr]

Gee wonder why that might be an issue

[half zephyr]

Never try to make sense out of mythology - it leads nowhere

[high ridge]

@half zephyr nah bro i think zeus's dad cut off his dad's weewee

[half zephyr]

You mean the birth of Aphrodite

[silk river]

Especially from one as old and fragmented as greek mythology

[high ridge]

yes

[half zephyr]

Zeus’ dad also ate all his kids, but mistook Zeus for a rock or smth

[high ridge]

i think he got some sickness

[half zephyr]

No

It was a prophecy

[high ridge]

becoming stupid and blind

[brazen lagoon]

the mom switched zeus out for a rock

[half zephyr]

Ye

[brazen lagoon]

and the big guy ate the rock

[half zephyr]

With some mustard?

[high ridge]

does he not taste his children?

i would

[half zephyr]

He just swallowed them whole

[high ridge]

bruh