h1-discussion

[half zephyr]

I did my first arthur run yesterday tho

was fun

safe

[copper canopy]

I don’t like commentary either but I can deal with it sometimes

[half zephyr]

got enough speed boosts to where I was just flying all over

[copper canopy]

But I hate facecam

[half zephyr]

and I barely lost half my hp to dad with all dd left

[unborn remnant]

Good for you :)

i dont like arthur much

[half zephyr]

I like it more then Hera so far sorry >.>

[copper canopy]

The point I’m making is I can’t watch Haelian videos.

[half zephyr]

guess I just have better rng with non-bow

[unborn remnant]

I get it shadow

dw

its all good

[honest sundial]

my point is that the way it was before you could clear encounters with randomly spamming the bullrush+ special and it would still kill enemies

[copper canopy]

Wait, blindfolded doesn’t count if someone’s telling you what to do. Lame.

Yeah I get it though

I’m curious what Heroic Quick Favor and the Aphrodite + Zeus Duo Boon would be like.

[honest sundial]

so they nerfed it and now it is useless unless you get 3 specific boons

[copper canopy]

Which are?

[honest sundial]

Ares/Dio/Zeus specials

1 of the three

[craggy barn]

big brain demeter run trick: turn off stygian/infernal soul so you can easily proc ravenous will

[copper canopy]

So not three, just one of three?

[copper canopy]

Bigger Brain trick: get lightning rod and leave the bloodstones lying around

[hollow hawk]

nah it stacks with infernal

so its actually better to have infernal on in that case

[copper canopy]

How does it even work with infernal?

[hollow hawk]

wdym how does it work lol

just leave all three of your bloodstones

and lightning will strike

[copper canopy]

Wait I think I mean Stygian soul

Whichever one recharges bloodstones overtime

[runic parrot]

you cant get it with stygian

[hollow hawk]

thats stygian

[runic parrot]

i think

[hollow hawk]

and yeah, you cant

[copper canopy]

That makes more sense

[honest sundial]

Your 25% will charge in 3.6 seconds instead of 5

it is not that impressive

[craggy barn]

i saw haelian do a run where he tried to get as many boons as possible and i'd like for all of you to know i did it first

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/791384660059488306/805775055493529610/Hades_104.png

[honest sundial]

that doesn't look like that many

[signal aspen]

is there a way to see all of the daedalus upgrades for the weapons

[manic bobcat]

Wiki is your best bet imo

[vapid narwhal]

hammer is not in the codex so wiki is your only source

[gaunt tapir]

What happens if you fill the boon inventory thingy

Can you not pick up more

[cerulean ferry]

It always increases, doesn't it?

[gaunt tapir]

I mean you never really get that many boons in the first place

But I guess that'd make sense

[half zephyr]

not that many boons..

[onyx shore]

Guys, do you know if Numbing Sensation stacks up with Chill?

[half zephyr]

I've had over 3 rows of boons in the hall of records

[onyx shore]

It's actually happening to me right now xD

[gaunt tapir]

😳

[half zephyr]

isn't that dionysus boon

affects hungover foes

[onyx shore]

Yeah

[half zephyr]

then no

[onyx shore]

I've got attack with hangover

and got some chills

[half zephyr]

I mean they could if chill slows I guess

but there's no direct effect

[gaunt tapir]

When does chill not slow

[half zephyr]

I couldn't remember

I haven't had chill in.. a lot of runs

[unborn remnant]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[half zephyr]

like seriously

[gaunt tapir]

You dont go for demeter?

[half zephyr]

not really that often no

[gaunt tapir]

Shame

She's cool

[half zephyr]

well duh

she's my fave goddess

[gaunt tapir]

🥴

Cool

Get it

[half zephyr]

doesn't mean I have to use her gameplay wise

the normal places to put chill I'd much rather have another kind of status effect

[gaunt tapir]

Yeah chill isnt that good

[onyx shore]

I love Demeter boons.

[gaunt tapir]

but

I like it

[onyx shore]

She's also my fave goddess as well.

[half zephyr]

I don't say no if she's there and there's no better choice

but she isn't the go to for status

[gaunt tapir]

What do you prefer

Poseidon knockback 🤢

[onyx shore]

🤣 🤣

[gaunt tapir]

Havent had that in forever now that I think about it

[half zephyr]

sometimes for duo boons ye

but I like jolted, hangover & doom

[onyx shore]

I usually aim for Demeter's Leg.

[gaunt tapir]

I havent gotten many duo or legendary boons

I never go for them whoops

[half zephyr]

and weak cuz of the bonus % that aphy is so good at giving

[gaunt tapir]

Aphrodite 😍

[onyx shore]

Her charm leg makes the run pretty fun as well.

[half zephyr]

I don't care about charm

by the time they get hit with charm they ded

[gaunt tapir]

Why u looking at her legs

[half zephyr]

very useless for me

legendaries

[onyx shore]

Ohh, atk spd weps with charm are fun imo

[half zephyr]

everyone knows that the best legend comes from poseidon tho

Huge catch \0/

[gaunt tapir]

Le fishe

[half zephyr]

[gaunt tapir]

What's Ares' legendary?

[half zephyr]

ooh that one is nice too

[gaunt tapir]

🤔

[half zephyr]

think it makes the uhm..

[gaunt tapir]

Never seen it

[half zephyr]

spinny wheel of death

[gaunt tapir]

Blade rift

[half zephyr]

either bigger or more powerful

any spinny wheel of death

[gaunt tapir]

Beeg rift

[half zephyr]

get that w seeking rift

so good

[gaunt tapir]

Ares only run

[half zephyr]

that's a doomed run

[gaunt tapir]

Shut up

[onyx shore]

Ares makes blade rift do additional dmg with every additional proc on an enemy.

I've seen it can go up to 18k dmg with his full call bar.

[gaunt tapir]

Holy guacamole

I should start going for legendary boons shouldnt I

[cerulean ferry]

Damn that's a lot

[gaunt tapir]

That is indeed a lot

I've never seen that much damage ever

[onyx shore]

Yeah.

But blade rifts are a hassle, so much people don't really go for them.

Getting stuck with rifts and not getting his Legendary might not be that useful for a high heat run.

[gaunt tapir]

You see

My highest heat is 16

And I got through it by accident and pure luck

Never again

[onyx shore]

Ikr.

High heat sucks.

And people doing up to 30 heat.

[gaunt tapir]

WasNt highest heat 50 something

Many have done 32

[onyx shore]

I lost a death defiance reading that.

[gaunt tapir]

I feel that

[onyx shore]

I usually end up reaching new milestones in the least expected run.

Like, I don't think this is my weapon.

BAM. complete run.

This boons ain't doing it.

Defeats Hades.

[gaunt tapir]

Oh yeah that happens to me a lot

I'm in a garbage run and end up clearing it anyways

[karmic trellis]

best aspect for coronacht?

[half zephyr]

I don't like bow

[indigo ginkgo]

lol

[hushed pumice]

Highest is 60 atm

And 32 is considered entry level over at high heat 😏

[half zephyr]

meanwhile I sit here & consider my 10 heat run high heat

high heat for me

[hushed pumice]

It's personal yeah

What Tailesque considers high heat is unplayable for 99.9% of the player base lol

[dull niche]

lol accurate

[half zephyr]

[brisk trail]

Guys I Found An Interesting Glitch

So If You Get After Party And Use Hermes Keepsake Or Than It Will Tell You You Got a Perfect Clear Even If You Took Damage

Because It Restores Your Health

[manic bobcat]

I don't get this ngl

Also who types like this

[half zephyr]

idk, but when I see it I don't read it

[craggy barn]

there's no "best aspect", all of the bow aspects are actually great and you can't really compare them much since they all have some gimmick to them

[karmic trellis]

mmmm

[craggy barn]

chiron has homing volley, hera has loaded casts, and rama has... whatever it has going on

[narrow hemlock]

suffering :)

[dull niche]

rama has the quality of being like top 2 bow

rama good

[karmic trellis]

i do like suffering

i'll try it

[narrow hemlock]

it was in jest bc of shared suffering lmao. i do like rama but it's certainly not everyone's cup of tea

[karmic trellis]

mmm

[frozen perch]

just pre ordered my physical copy at the GameStop next to my work!!! very excited :-))))

I was surprised with the price being $35 I was expecting the full-on Nintendo Switch tax where it was $60

[runic fern]

good indie games are always underpriced, no exceptions

[unborn remnant]

that is true

[indigo ginkgo]

stardew valley pog

[runic fern]

hollow knight pog

seriously if silksong is less than £30 i don't know what i'll do

buy it, of course but oh well

[humble lotus]

Sliksong is the indie half life 3

[runic fern]

yup

at least silksong is confirmed

[green dune]

"confirmed"

[unborn remnant]

There is no Silksong in Ba Sing Se

[narrow hemlock]

non-hades game talk goes in #video-games

[humble lotus]

So anyone else think of arthur as the monty python arthur instead of the normal one?

[crude pasture]

YES

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-holy-grail-horse-gif-3448553

[final trellis]

Favorite weapon in Hades?

[stiff trellis]

Yes

[final trellis]

I totally agree with you

[halcyon oriole]

I upgraded demeter fists to maximum, and immediately got Kinetic Launcher

it was great/hilarious

[opaque socket]

gun

gun

gun

it used to be the bow for me tho

[hallow gate]

Zagreus has gun

[red gust]

shield carried me, esp. with charged shot

[hallow gate]

flurry hammer is broken

[green dune]

i wish we could reroll hammer

[narrow hemlock]

devs acknowledge players want to reroll hammers but opted to not have this be a thing because it could potentially be more harmful to the game in that players would just reroll their entire builds for optimal hammers and would be less inclined to experiment

basically contributes to less replayability as the player has more control

[green dune]

yeah, but I want those boons

[restive cave]

is aspect of beowulf worth the 3 bloods?

i havent unlocked or upgraded most of the other stuff yet

[green dune]

you'll want to max it for like 15

you'll want to unlock 5 aspects first

[grand crystal]

yes, its crazy good

[green dune]

i'd suggest after you unlock 5 aspects to invest in the one you like the most

[grand crystal]

its a cast weapon so itll just kill

[restive cave]

i just bought it to try it out on skelly but it feels no different than the original one

[green dune]

load up the catss

casts

[grand crystal]

^^^

[restive cave]

ah

[grand crystal]

and then bull rush

well "dragon rush" with beo shield

[green dune]

the dragon rush is the gimmic

otherwise it's the same as the normal one, with slightly heavier hits

[restive cave]

aspect of hera is probably the most busted one out of the ones ive upgraded

[green dune]

it's the shield version of hera

[restive cave]

or i just built really well that time lol

[grand crystal]

yea bow is just busted tbh

all of the bow is good

[restive cave]

i had the festive fog boon

with twin shot, explosive shot, and support fire

aspect of lucifer feels pretty weak

[fast depot]

Let’s go my second clear of the game!

[green dune]

grats

[fast depot]

Thanks

🙏

[restive cave]

damn i bet minotaur rush is good on beowulf

[thick mesa]

lucifer aspect with demeter cast and attack, and dem/artemis duo is a freeze beam death star

[green dune]

charge shot works too, just much different

[restive cave]

oh well i can use this as a chance to ||fight charon|| and probably lose but oh well i was only in tartarus lmao

[fast depot]

What does a hallowed ground do?

[thick mesa]

reduces damage you take and slows enemies

[green dune]

tank circle

[thick mesa]

^

[fast depot]

Ok pog

[hallow gate]

Hi

[final trellis]

Hi

[native jewel]

Hey so I beat hades for the first time a few minutes ago and after that gave Meg nectar but after I gave it to her it removed the talk button. Is what she says important?

[fading sail]

Does anyone know if there's gonna be any DLC for hades? Or some sort of expansion? I'm really itchy on learning more or seeing more of the game.

[restive cave]

wow beowulf was the easiest successful escape out of any of the ones ive had

[grand crystal]

beo do be like that

im more of a zeus shield fan tho

[plucky pike]

zeus shield is my main, but beowulf cast charges are legit amazing

i was only using the first level of the beo aspect and was doing 1200 damage per rush with a level 7 festive fog

[plucky pike]

i hope but i dont know if thats happening, maybe if supergiant sees enough demand?

i said this before but i think having contractor options to buy pacts for the elysium champion would be so cool, like for example, 5 diamond contract to add Hercules as an option instead of theseus and asterius in the pact of punishment

[spare moon]

Once I get me paycheck imma buy a physical copy of Hades on the switch

Even tho I already played it through on pc lol

[plucky pike]

i would do that if i had a switch 😔

im a broke college boi

[humble lotus]

So when do i get a reward for freeing orpheus i just got one for freeing sisyphus and was wondering about if orpheus gave a similar reward

[wise sparrow]

he doesn’t give

[sand holly]

You mean the Bouldy companion? Orpheus doesn't have one

[humble lotus]

Oh

[swift mist]

i only have a few more prophecies to do and theyre basically complete c:

[grand crystal]

nice

[grand crystal]

but he does have a prophecy thats pretty neat

[swift mist]

theyre annoying rng ones tho like daedalus enchantments and the legendary chaos boon

[grand crystal]

damn

yea those suck

[sand holly]

I still have over one page, not looking forward to the last one or two for Dark Reflections

[grand crystal]

i only have a couple of the hammer ones, and the duo one

[sand holly]

Yeah, I'm still missing one or two Hammer Prophecies

[swift mist]

i grinded the duo ones

[grand crystal]

but i dont like any of the hammmers or duos

[swift mist]

and got em done

[sand holly]

Lightning Rod Duo is great

Especially since there's a boon somewhere that increases the range of Zeus's lightning

[grand crystal]

i only have like the aphro/dem and the ares/zeus tho

and i dont like either of those

because one requires revenge dedication and the other is a gross cast

[swift mist]

also why does everyone wanna secks up zag lmao

[grand crystal]

why not

[sand holly]

Aphrodite and Demeter Duo is the worst boon I've seen in the game

[grand crystal]

people want to with the entire cast

[swift mist]

i was so started by the meg thing

like alright suddenly we're doing it now i guess

[covert mason]

Gods are like that XD

[swift mist]

just hit 100 hours on hades pog

100.3 hours

i have 3 achievements left

[sand holly]

Nice, I have 113

[swift mist]

max rank all keepsakes, only got 2 keepsakes left to level up
dark reflections prophecy, only need to do 1 run to complete that
and slashed benefits, almost done that too

[sand holly]

7 achievements left

[covert mason]

I wish the Switch had achievements too :(

[sand holly]

I have every achievement up to and most of the ones after Skelly's first prize, but I still don't have that one. I always do Dark Thirst instead of one weapon and don't skip heat levels so that's probably why

[swift mist]

oh also i got a 13 minute run before

by accident

[hearty bramble]

can u blame em??

[humble lotus]

Is it the harp one?

[opal oar]

is there anything you can do to increase the chances of getting duo boons? sorry if that's a dumb question, I just got the game today

[grand crystal]

and to ||get him back together with eurydice||

[humble lotus]

Yeah i got that one

[grand crystal]

yes actually, there is a mirror skill known as gods legacy that gives you extra chance to get legendaries and duos

[grand crystal]

ah yea then outside of the lyre playing i dont think theres anything else

[opal oar]

oh that's awesome

is dionysus/aphrodite any good?

[grand crystal]

ummm if you are building that then yea, its pretty good

tbh dionysus is just a good god for duos

and aphrodite is also just really strong

but being able to stack hangover an extra 3 times is crazy good

[opal oar]

I'm horrendous with strategy but so far those two are my favourite lol

[grand crystal]

yea its seen as a good combo, i prefer stuff like aphro/arte or zeus stuff

ares is also very fun

[indigo shale]

Hello everyone, may I be able to ask someone a late game question? I don't want to spoil something for anyone

[narrow hemlock]

go for it, you can spoiler tag content like so: ||example||

[charred anchor]

yeah this is a spoiler welcome zone

[narrow hemlock]

doesnt hurt to be courteous

[indigo shale]

Oh alright that works just I was hoping for something more of like a dm conversation

It's a super quick question

[charred anchor]

u can dm me then

does having more of the requirements for a duo boon increase ur likeliness to get it?

[grand crystal]

i dont think so :/

especially since there are times where i have bare minimum and i get it like 3 times and dont take it but i can have half of the reqs and never get it

[opal oar]

define "building that"

[grand crystal]

if your build is central around ps and or hangover

building a hangover setup calls for wanting curse of nausea, low tolerance, splitting headache, or as many of those as you can get

[restive cave]

if i use twin shot with aspect of hera, is there a massive increase in dmg there?

or would i be better off taking chain shot

[grand crystal]

twin shot is literally doubling your attack output with any bow

chain is better for crowd control but in my experience the damage buff from twin is what you should go for

for any bow(that is if its not chiron)

[restive cave]

the first boon i got was the flurry shot

[grand crystal]

the flurry hammer??

[restive cave]

been using festive fog on my cast

yeah

[grand crystal]

ah ok

ummm

id still say twin shot is the best bet

having doubled damage and fast attack speeds

with dio cast to top it all off

[restive cave]

oh i should mention Sniper Shot is available too lol

[grand crystal]

yea twin still wins :3

twin shot is very good

[restive cave]

haha okay sweet ty

[grand crystal]

np

[restive cave]

i did a similar build last run except with zeus chain lightning on my cast and i used chain shot and flurry shot for my hammer boons

and the run was so damn easy until i got to zeus and he didnt have very many adds with him

hades**

[grand crystal]

ah yea, getting crowd control builds comes to hurt on bosses

thats why i just go for high damage all the time :3

like if anything is built right you can hit crazy numbers/dps

[charred anchor]

yo i got like 3 duo boons in one run

[grand crystal]

epic

[restive cave]

i thought ruiner was good but this game is so much better

[copper canopy]

Me when I try out a certain boon/hammer upgrade and it actually makes my build worse:
https://gyazo.com/433f87007b76287c64385961bb3f7691

[restive cave]

whats the highest amount of damage you can do in this game and with what weapon? is there anything that can 1shot bosses

[runic parrot]

you cant 1shot bosses

[opal oar]

proud 2 announce i made it to that... bone... dragon... guy

[hardy oasis]

Depends what you mean in the first question, and the second question is literally impossible since all bosses have multiple phases

[opal oar]

(i died ALMOST immediately but not COMPLETELY immediately so I must have done something right)

[restive cave]

i guess thats true but im just wondering if there are any builds that could produce some big hitter abilities like chad thanatos has

my highest damage number i saw on my screen was like 700 :p

[runic parrot]

arthur crits are good

you can also get massive damage on rama, eris, or hestia

[hardy oasis]

Well, if you want large DPS, then Merciful End combined with Deadly Reversal on Demeter Fists is a good option

But in terms of burst damage, then Twin Shot + Perfect Shot Rama with Artemis Attack provides excellent damage

There's actually a difference between the two concepts, and both are preferable for different situations and pacts

For instance, you'd want big burst damage to help with getting rid of enemies with bonus health from either Benefits Package or Calisthenics Program

But you'd want big DPS for bosses, since you're typically going to focus on only one thing there anyways

[copper canopy]

Get Hunting Mirage Blades

Then Ares’ legendary boon

Then more bloodstones

Then Hermes’ legendary boon and flurry cast

Add in Aphrodite’s Aid and Quick Favor

[charred anchor]

i used up ALL of my dds and charon is only at half health

im so screwed

yeah i died

[opal oar]

im still in early game so im just kinda

running around having a good time lmao

[humble lotus]

So is battie or shady better?

Like battie seems good for bosses but shady seems better for grinding

[hardy oasis]

Shady is better for grinding

Battie is better for bosses

Mort is better than Battie though, but only in certain situations

[humble lotus]

I dont have that third one but assume it is from thanatos based on the name

[opal oar]

i fell in lava

what is this, minecraft?

[wise sparrow]

minecraft invented lava

[simple tulip]

why isn't dionysus boon popping up for me

like at all

just bad luck?

i havent seen a dionysus boon in like 5+ runs

[acoustic quartz]

do you not have his keepsake?

[simple tulip]

keepsake is the thing i give him after nectar yes?

i haven't given him a nectar before

[acoustic quartz]

hmmmmmm

well yea its up to luck really

if you want his boons then next time you meet him give him nectar

[simple tulip]

ah

[teal isle]

shout out to that one playthrough where i beat Hades with legit only 2 hp legft

[stoic violet]

Hey everyone! First run of the day! What weapon should I try?

[livid plank]

Does taking a Chaos gate remove a room you would have taken before the boss?

[runic parrot]

if it's right before the penultimate room, no

[runic parrot]

zeus

[livid plank]

um aspect of Chaos with a Ares on the special: aka doomerang

[stoic violet]

I'll try for that @livid plank

@livid plank would dread flight work with that? Special hits four extra foes?

[runic parrot]

getting a duo on your 3rd boon is always great

[livid plank]

I'm not always reliable with dread flight but yes. The four shields also return to you and can damage foes on the rebound if your aim is off.

It's fun to see like 10 foes die to doom at once lol

I think it works well with ME too, not that it's the best ME build

[stoic violet]

I've got either 74% attack from Aphrodite or 15% resist.... Dunno what's good....

[livid plank]

Uh I like aphro attack because of the duo with Ares as well where doom damage recurs

[stoic violet]

Thanks

[stoic violet]

Sudden rush minotaur rush? I'd think sudden for the chaos shield ability

Phooey, died before Theseus....

How exactly do the Pact of Punishment bounties work? I'd think for each condition, I'd be able to earn the bounties, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

[livid plank]

You get a new set of the four bounties per weapon per 1 unit increase heat

[grand crystal]

up to 20 heat that is

so itll be a while but there is a limit

[stoic violet]

How do I increase heat higher? I can only go to one rn

[livid plank]

On hell mode I think it increases to 25

[grand crystal]

yea since you start at 5 lol

so its still the 20 limit

[livid plank]

Well to get the new bounty you must beat the whole game on the current heat

[stoic violet]

Ok

[grand crystal]

^^yea bounties scale 1 heat at a time

i.e. doing 16 heat but your rewards are 11 will net you 11 heat rewards

[livid plank]

so for example lets say I just beat the base game, and I set the heat to 1 on the bow. I beat Meg and then die. I cannot raise to 2 and beat Meg to get a TB unless I beat the whooollle game.

[stoic violet]

I've been doing hightened security and got past elysium before

[grand crystal]

oof HS is not a good one tbh

wayyy to punishing for so little heat

i run it since i need to get better at traps but still

[livid plank]

BUT you can change weapons and reset the bounties for the same heat

[grand crystal]

everyone reccomends tight deadline

since its easy to beat a 9 min per area time limit

[stoic violet]

Ok

[livid plank]

Tight deadline is the easiest bc its the base game just timed

[grand crystal]

and it stacks, like you finish tart with 5 minutes, you get an extra 9 added on so you have 14 minutes for asphodel now

its super easy

[stoic violet]

Ooh

[livid plank]

I will say though it took me 42 minutes to beat it the first time so maybe not for everyone, I was putzing around though

[grand crystal]

just beat the game in less than 36 minutes and you should be good

i also recommend convenience fee for low heat, gets you used to not needing shops

damage control is also good if youre running a fast hitting weapon

[runic parrot]

cf at low heat 😳

[grand crystal]

lol thats what i do :3

[runic parrot]

i recommend extreme measures 2-3 so you get used to them

[livid plank]

I like hard labor, I just try harder not to get hit

[grand crystal]

yea em2 is ez ngl

em3 is when it hikes up

[livid plank]

I think forced overtime is super challenging

like even 1 point in it

[grand crystal]

its alright

needs you to play more safe

[livid plank]

middle management and benefits package aren't bad

[grand crystal]

and know timings more

[grand crystal]

0_0 i say otherwise

mm yea ok

fine

bp can kill runs

like if lost dds in tart cuz of unlucky bp

its not fun

[livid plank]

I think on low heat its ok

I have trouble with it after 15 heat

When I started out I did heightened security, thinking I wouldn't run into traps lol

I'm kinda scarred from it still so haven't used it since trying it on 1 heat

[grand crystal]

lol

yea it sucks when you just run into a trap and you die

like

100 damage from the arrow traps in elysium

is so punishing

and like tbh ri1 isnt bad

at least on low heat

those last 3 mirror things are just run manipulation tbh

[livid plank]

I haven't tried it, I'm only around 20 heat, but sometimes I forget I can even do the manipulation so it's probably not always a big loss

[grand crystal]

i mean everyone that plays high heat says it is :/

it kinda helps at like 32 but like, i just take ri1

[livid plank]

I think increasing CF is good advice because I'm still reliant on the shop

[grand crystal]

you still get the rerolls if you have they key upgrade and it unlocked

yeaaa

and even then shop can still save you

you just become less tied to it

[dusky scaffold]

so how do i get dif weapon aspects

[wise sparrow]

did u beat the game yet

[dusky scaffold]

nop just beat the first boss lol just wondering what stage of the game you get em

[grand crystal]

not beat the game, you just need every weapon unlocked and have gotten to the final fight

[runic parrot]

final fight

just say final

[dusky scaffold]

because the dif sword aspecs look wild

[livid plank]

I think you gotta talk to skelly after getting the first titans blood, he says something about the weapons getting stronger

[short geyser]

im making good progress on the duo boons propechy, got three new ones this run

[livid plank]

It's hard to unlock those without beating the game for the first time because the only other TB you get is from the prophecies, the dealer in the lounge, or Chirons last shop

And also the last set of weapons you have to have special dialogue with different characters like Rama or Arthur and that didn't happen for me until beating it at least 5x

[grand crystal]

for hidden aspects it takes more work

you need the spear one unlocked first which takes 5 other aspects that arent zag form unlocked

then you need to dump at least 5 blood into the respective weapon and talk to a specific npc to get the waking phrase then you get the hidden aspect

its a lot of work

and after 90 ish runs i only just now got the rail one

[livid plank]

It's a lot of work just to max out the other non-zagreus weapons

[grand crystal]

^^ eww imagine maxing zag aspects 🤮

[dusky scaffold]

my fav weapon so fars the sword ive tried the sheld the bow and the spear but i just keep coming back to the sword lol

only using the spear now because it ses ill get 20% more darkness if i use it

[livid plank]

I recommend not putting your points into the Zag aspects, when I first played the game I put the like five TBs into the Zag bow

[grand crystal]

oh yea dark thirst is a great thing to base runs off of, gets you to use more weapons with the darkness benefit

[livid plank]

which was a waste

[dusky scaffold]

tho i still have to try the guntlets and the gun thing adamit rail?

[grand crystal]

mhm, thats whats left for weapons

you get fists first then rail

both cost 8 keys

[dusky scaffold]

ya i read the wiki

[grand crystal]

epic

[livid plank]

I like the rail better

[dusky scaffold]

on that and i wanna get the aspect for teh sword that makes the dash atks better sens i mostly use dash atks

[livid plank]

with the fists you have to get up close, but you might like that if you prefer the sword

[dusky scaffold]

ya i was actully really excited to get those

[livid plank]

I beat it the first time with the bow

[grand crystal]

there isnt a specific aspect that does that, you have nemesis and posiedon and those arent specifically dash attacks :/

[dusky scaffold]

so like how do you use the spear specile like what situastions?

[grand crystal]

when you need to space and or fish a kill from far away

[dusky scaffold]

@grand crystal i forgot the name of it i saw it ont he wiki and a vido talked about it

[wise sparrow]

never unless with some good hammers

[dusky scaffold]

its the ones speed runners use

[simple tulip]

any build tips for rail gun?

[wise sparrow]

the spear special is so garbage

[dusky scaffold]

oh it makes it better after a specle

[grand crystal]

zeus attack

[dusky scaffold]

witch is the main combo ya?

[simple tulip]

so i enable the zeus keepsake

[dusky scaffold]

smash dash dash?

[simple tulip]

and try build attack with zeus boons

[wise sparrow]

yea dash attack

[stoic violet]

Why are the particle effects after beating Lernie so bad?

[wise sparrow]

yes

[livid plank]

Boons make dash attacks better like chaos, artemis

[short geyser]

how many levels do aspects have?

[simple tulip]

ok

[grand crystal]

lol i wouldnt say bad, just not meant to be as large and up close as the win screen makes it

[grand crystal]

5

[simple tulip]

what about hammer buffs

do i chosoe the burst fire option or triple bomb

[dusky scaffold]

no i maide a mistake the aspec i was talking about was the one that makes the atk after a specle do more dmg

[simple tulip]

i have to choose one rn

[grand crystal]

depends on aspect

[simple tulip]

or cluster bomb

[simple tulip]

hestia

is my aspect

so i go triple bomb?

[grand crystal]

maybe burst fire since the other 2 are more eris focused but the damage from it could help

[simple tulip]

but i cant reload

and use my hestia

[wise sparrow]

if u do hestia, art attack is better

[simple tulip]

what is art attack

[grand crystal]

yes you can, you just have to press the button

[simple tulip]

ah

[wise sparrow]

artemis

the green olympian

[grand crystal]

yea reloading when you have infinite ammo is just pressing the button yourself

hehe "the green one"

[simple tulip]

so i should try build zeus for attack

and artemis for dash attack

[wise sparrow]

no

for hestia do art attack

[grand crystal]

^^

or any high damage attack like aphro

[wise sparrow]

from then on just do whatever you want just experiment with other boons

all you need is art atk

[simple tulip]

what is art attack lol

[livid plank]

I like putting zeus on the rails attack with the non-reloading upgrade

[wise sparrow]

artemis attack boon

[simple tulip]

what is that

so i build both zeus and artemis for attack

[grand crystal]

crit chance

[livid plank]

You can do zeus attack and later jolted

[grand crystal]

and low damage buff

[simple tulip]

ah

[grand crystal]

yeaaa

[simple tulip]

so i do both at once

[wise sparrow]

no

hestia only wants artemis attack

not zeus

[grand crystal]

yea i didnt know you were running hestia so i just said zeus since it works for every other rail

[simple tulip]

well i equipped the zeus keepsake because i thought zeus attack was better

[grand crystal]

arte/aphro is what you want for hestia

[wise sparrow]

damn

[grand crystal]

my b

[simple tulip]

do i choose lightning strike, flourish or thunder dash

[grand crystal]

dash??

[simple tulip]

ight

[grand crystal]

or you could take attack and purge

but you do you

[simple tulip]

ill equip artemis next time

for attack

[wise sparrow]

just give up and take artemis keepsake

[simple tulip]

and then zeus for what?

what should i try get for zeus

[wise sparrow]

dont do zeus

just ignore him

[grand crystal]

i mean

[simple tulip]

what 😹

[grand crystal]

you can use him

cast is nice

[simple tulip]

i thought zeus was good with rail

[grand crystal]

call is solid

[livid plank]

For Hestia doesn't aphro scale better with the attack

[grand crystal]

like all of em besides hestia

[simple tulip]

ok, so with hestia i just want to build art

[livid plank]

It's hard to rely on Art crits for that one shot

but I don't play Hestia often

[wise sparrow]

do you know averages

on average, artemis will do more

but yes without crit, aph is better

[grand crystal]

arte attack and aphro special could be good

[stoic violet]

Ahhhhhhhh!!!! X3 butterfly ball SUCKS

[grand crystal]

and run for heart rend

[simple tulip]

what is aphro

lol

oh

aphrodie

[grand crystal]

aphrodite, just damage and weak prock

[livid plank]

Goddess of love!

[grand crystal]

but she has the highest base and scale for damage i think

[livid plank]

I like heart rend on the rail overall

[simple tulip]

what is heard rend

[grand crystal]

so like, arte and aphro are interchangeable for attack and special for hestia

[wise sparrow]

you should just play the game

[grand crystal]

extra 1.5 multiplier for crits on weak

[wise sparrow]

everything will be explained

[grand crystal]

so it goes from *3 to *4.5

[simple tulip]

ok so deadly strike, deadly flourhs (epic) or hunter dash on artemis hestia rail gun

[wise sparrow]

the game will show you everything

[grand crystal]

if they have weak

[grand crystal]

oooo id say that epic flourish but idk, do what you want

then take aphro later

and go for aphro attack

[simple tulip]

so i do it in reverse now, lmao

aphro atk art special

[grand crystal]

lol, it works with either

[simple tulip]

yeah i see i see

[grand crystal]

id say attack but you got an epic

so like

might as well

[livid plank]

Yea you sorta have to play to get a sense of the combos. I don't recommend Hestia for beginners because remembering to reload is annoying

[grand crystal]

i honestly dont reccomend rail at all for beginners, its a weird weapon

[livid plank]

And the Artemis crit increase is reliant on you reloading for the 150% increase to her attack + a 15% chance crit

[stoic violet]

Explosive fire, ricochet fire or triple bomb for rail?

Got a daedalus hammer at the beginning of the run

[livid plank]

I like triple bomb, but I'm not a rail expert.

I don't see how richocet helps at least

[stoic violet]

That's what I was thinking, but I don't remember ever using explosive fire

[wise sparrow]

i highly recommend just experimenting with hammers

[stoic violet]

But they're random....

You gotta wait till you find one to experiment

[grand crystal]

what rail??

like aspect

[wise sparrow]

i highly recommend picking hammers yourself and experimenting rather than do discord plays hades

[grand crystal]

depends on person :/

[livid plank]

If you restart the run you'll start with those choices again

[wise sparrow]

:/

[grand crystal]

i like to know what im getting myself into

[stoic violet]

Uh, the one that absorbs special for extra damage

[grand crystal]

eris

take triple

triple bomb is amazing on eris

[livid plank]

The first room is always the same on a restart, then after that doing certain things alters the RNG

[stoic violet]

What would be the reasoning behind that taking triple bomb? Like how is it good?

Does the absorb stack or something?

[livid plank]

With Eris when you are in the special field and get hit by your own special it increases your attack

[stoic violet]

@livid plank I know that, does it stack?

With triple?

[grand crystal]

no

but theres more to get into

[stoic violet]

Ok

[grand crystal]

more chances to be in it

and just more damage

[stoic violet]

Ok

[dusky scaffold]

dame i made it to the hydra thats a first

got it to 50% hp

[grand crystal]

oh nice, good job!

[stoic violet]

Epic artemis attack or special for rail?

Attack maybe for a bunch of crit?

[livid plank]

Depends on the aspect like they were saying above

[stoic violet]

Eris with triple special

[grand crystal]

id say wait for zeus on attack and take arte special

since youll be using special a lot

and that has a higher base

[livid plank]

For Eris I usually do Zeus attack and Art special

[stoic violet]

Ok

[grand crystal]

me too :3

[livid plank]

Well I watched the speed runs so it's not like I came to that conclusion lol

Zeus attack is so solid though

Especially with jolted

[hollow hawk]

Eris also loves having tidal dash

Since its a lot of bonus dmg while reloading/specialling

[livid plank]

Anyway the rationale is that certain gods increase the percent of the base damage (Aphro, Arte, Poseidon) and Zeus, Ares, Dio increase base damage more or less

[hollow hawk]

Zeus dio ares are the gods that do not increase base dmg

Aphro arte Poseidon etc do increase base dmg

[livid plank]

Sorry they had a definite value to base

Zeus adds 10 dmg I think to the base

[hollow hawk]

Not really

No

Zeus adds lightning bolts which fire whenever you attack

its not an addition of 10 dmg to the base

[livid plank]

Yes that add 10 damage each

for his normal rarity

[hollow hawk]

i guess technically yeah

[livid plank]

Meanwhile Artemis increases the base damage by 20ish%, so Zeus makes sense for the bullets

because increasing 10 + 10x.2 = 12

[hollow hawk]

But id rather consider them as a separate dmg source that depends on your attack

[livid plank]

meanwhile 10+10=20

I guess that is fair, it is separate i.e. not dependent on the original damage done by said weapon

There are combos that get around this. For example Aphro on the bows special if you make sure each arrow hits then her special can do a lot of dmg even though each individual arrow is 10 damage (I believe)

[grand crystal]

yea each arrow is a base of 10

i love bow so ik most numbers with it

[livid plank]

Her special starts out adding 80% at normal rarity (and can easily get to 200% with poms) and if each arrow hits then it can do better if you calculate the raw math than zeus's base damage of adding +10

[grand crystal]

and even then zeus sucks on bow :3

[livid plank]

I try to do charged volley, concentrated volley + aphro

[grand crystal]

ooo

thatll shred

[livid plank]

+3 base x150%x80% (at least)

[hollow hawk]

dmg is additive btw

All dmg boosts are additive

[stoic violet]

Is heroic Ares special better than Artemis for Eris rail?

[grand crystal]

ummmm

thats

[hollow hawk]

no

[grand crystal]

kinda debatable ngl

[hollow hawk]

Ares special on rail is bad

[runic parrot]

never a good option imo

[stoic violet]

Ok

[grand crystal]

id say debatable

[runic parrot]

specials are already slow enough as it is

[hollow hawk]

whys that so

[grand crystal]

yea and the doom will prock by the time you get another

so you keep the doom cycling

[hollow hawk]

You'd kill enemies faster than the doom procs

[grand crystal]

and its consistant

[grand crystal]

ps then

you get ps

if you have jolted as we;;

well

[runic parrot]

are they running ps though

[hollow hawk]

If you're taking ares for the privileged status effect of like half a second

Then dont lol

[grand crystal]

still better than no ps tbh

also the eris buff is global

[hollow hawk]

Aphro is much bettee

Better

In that regard

For ps

And is nearly the same dmg as arty

[grand crystal]

eh

preference then

cuz i think it could work

[stoic violet]

I found hero demeter special, is that better than Artemis?

Also there's a rare call for her, should I take that instead?

[grand crystal]

whats the damage comparison for special??

also dem call kinda sucky

[stoic violet]

199% damage versus less than 100 I think for artemis? I'm thinking I swap

[grand crystal]

yea def

and ez ps

[stoic violet]

Also I don't have any death defiance going into hades fight....

[grand crystal]

0-0

[stoic violet]

Hopefully it works out

[grand crystal]

yea

hopefully

[stoic violet]

I beat hades with rail the one other time I beat him

Imma do it again

[grand crystal]

yea!

[stoic violet]

Is aphrodite call good?

[grand crystal]

its decent

[stoic violet]

Barely know what it does.... Seems just like one sorta weak projectile....

[grand crystal]

free disrupts for moves

and

2.5k damage isnt weak

thast the same as the meg companion

and is very helpful

[stoic violet]

Ok

[grand crystal]

try to save it till greater for the damage

but if you need use it early for the charm

[runic parrot]

aphro aid is good if it's common or rare and you're in need of an aphro core boon

i wouldnt take it if there were other options

[stoic violet]

Yoooooo! I actually did it!

Also I just camped behind the pillars with rail, so.... Not as hard as I thought....

[short geyser]

can i get a duo boon from a trail of the gods and can i reroll into a duo boon?

assuming i have the prereqs ofc

[runic parrot]

no

you cant get a duo boon in a trial room period

[short geyser]

can you reroll a regular room or a shop boon into a duo boon?

[grand crystal]

epic

[green dune]

What happens when you buy kiss of Styx from the well when you're full dd because you picked an Athena boon before you went to the well?

Do you break the matrix, do you get 4 dd, or do you just waste your coins?

[grand crystal]

waste money i think

[runic parrot]

you cant get a kiss of styx if youre full i dont think

[green dune]

It's there I'm full

[runic parrot]

you cant reroll shop boons and duo boons arent a set room

[grand crystal]

(me remembering when kiss of styx used to be you just get another dd and not replenish)

[runic parrot]

i think you just waste it

[brisk trail]

Hellow

I want to add an arabic localization for hades

All I need the arabic fonts

How can I add them for the game

[hollow hawk]

i think they meant trials, by a duo boon room

[hollow hawk]

#hades-localization

[stoic violet]

Omg I just beat it twice in a row! Rail again

9:09:69 Is that fast?

Wait

Oops

Nevermind

I read the extra time instead of my actual time

26:50:30

XD

[hollow hawk]

26 minutes is decent for your second clear tbh

[vapid narwhal]

26 is a p decent time in general

sub 20 is good, sub 15 is amazing

[runic parrot]

just learned dad's laser hits really hard when you only have 120 health :)

[sand holly]

Dad's laser hits hard at 300 health

Is 120 enough for the shield to kick in before you die?

[manic moat]

just dont get hit lol

[runic parrot]

i had hl5 on so no

i wasnt at full health anyway

i went out of cover too fast, i thought i could tank/deflect it

[hollow hawk]

dad's laser hits very hard when youre at 50 health on the luckiest chiron 32 heat build with splitting headache, support fire, low tolerance and curse of nausea and are just about to kill dad when his laser glitches through a pillar to ruin your day

[runic parrot]

experience speaking huh

that was really close though, i'll probably get it on my next try

trying to get 32 heat on all weapons

just my least favourite one left, the spear

[civic garnet]

Hey there,
I just had an odd interaction with Demeter's Rare Crop [Your Boons become Common, then gain Rarity every 3 Encounter(s).]. When I picked it, it made another boon and itself common and since Rare Crop is now common, it only increased the rarity of that another boon. Do you think this is a bug? Should Rare Crop be able to target itself?

[manic moat]

yo that's weird

make sense but it's weird but it makes sense but it shouldn't makes sense

[undone moat]

that sounds funny and unintended ngl

[runic parrot]

bug report that mayb

ive never had that happen before even with only 1 boon in my inv

[hearty bramble]

i got flurry cast and now my aphro cast doesnt make the funny sproing noise anymore :(

[manic moat]

F

but yea for the rare crop thing

it can be fixed by making its rarity not affect the number, but then what else do you use to affect the number of boons

or like it doesn't change the number affected when its rarity changes, but then what's the point of increasing its rarity

[runic parrot]

just make it never affect itself lol

[manic moat]

yea but then

what if you have less than the number affected boons

the next boons picked up fall under the effect?

[runic parrot]

take the L

its sacrificial

[manic moat]

fair enough ig

[runic parrot]

i never take rare crop tbh

it always hits the wrong boons for me

unless i have only a few boons and it's epic

[quiet canopy]

what is the speedrun record?

[hollow hawk]

you can check it on speedrun.com/hades

its current 5:57 in game time in the Any Heat category (basically youre free to run any of the heat pacts you want)

its held by lili

[quiet canopy]

5.57 all game right?

it is too fast 😄

my record is 19 with 7 or 8 heats

[hollow hawk]

19 is pretty decent tbh

[hollow hawk]

yeah

you should watch wriste13's video on speedrunning if you are planning to speedrun

its a guide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3Mmoo4oTKU

[quiet canopy]

im not planning to but im going to watch thanks

[astral palm]

speedrunning fun

[hollow hawk]

lili lurking all the time i see

[deep oasis]

Who here plays Hades on their Switch but also has it on PC? Can you tell me how performance is on the Switch and perhaps your preference? 🙂 Thinking of getting the game for my Switch..

[half zephyr]

I mean I play it on switch, and I do have it on my mac..

but I only play it on my switch cuz I don't have controller atm to use with the pc/mac version

can't say how it compares to the pc/mac edition, but I like being able to see everything on the switch in handheld

you can also change controls on the switch to suit your style

[dry mango]

The switch version has performance issues when there is too much stuff on screen

And loadings are a bit longer

But it's very much playable

[half zephyr]

I haven't noticed that issue yet

maybe I haven't had enough on my screen yet

[dry mango]

even at its worse it's not too bad tho

but when you have a lot of enemies, dozens of missiles flying around and particles effects all around the place, I can feel a drop in fps

never lasts too long tho

[half zephyr]

oh, I never have

[violet sluice]

https://twitter.com/artpaiges/status/1364309732345872384?s=21 Paige Carter, the artist who created the 3D models for Hades; posted this thread with turnarounds of them! If u wanna use them as references or are curious, check them out! Though there are mild late game spoilers, just a heads up!

Paige Carter (@artpaiges)

Here's a #HadesGame 3D character model thread!🧵 Starting off with one of my favorite characters to work on, Achilles! His hair was very fun to figure out in 3D~ [Also please beware potentially spoilery characters if you haven't played the game]

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[deep oasis]

I mean, I run Hades on my bedroom pc that only has a 3200G. Comparable performance to the Switch version, I think. It gets slightly laggy when a lot of stuff is going down so I'm already used to it 😉

[eager kindle]

Pretty good performance on Switch, a few dips when there's many sprites on the screen. The graphics are okay handheld, but it is a little blurry when docked which is why I bought the PC version.

[deep oasis]

Time to build a PC for the living room..

[vapid narwhal]

for light gaming the upcoming 11th gen Intel CPU seems to be quite good

should handle Hades quite well

[deep oasis]

I mean, I'm more of a Ryzen boi 😉 But dang.. Those Ryzen integrated GPU chips are difficult to come by

[vapid narwhal]

4000 series APUs are OEM only and not a lot were made in the first place

[deep oasis]

Damn you AMDDDDDD

[granite ether]

you can find them through place like aliexpress though

them being OEM only doesn't make it impossible to find

[vapid narwhal]

yeah the price arent that competitive so the point is kinda moot

[granite ether]

atm, cpu prices are kinda rubbish anyways (AMD specifically)

intel seems to be cutting prices atm

[vapid narwhal]

the 11th gen's Xe graphics seems to be pretty damn good so I'd use that for a SFF living room PC, at least for Hades it will be well enough

coming out next month I believe

plus Intel has the production capacity so stock and prices should be a lot better

[granite ether]

I think so anyways this is getting off topic, so to #off-topic-discussion

[quiet canopy]

how can i unlock the heart with the lock

im trying to open the one with ares too many dialogue with him but still locked

[trail pendant]

Who should I pick? Poseidon or Zeus?

[deep oasis]

Yes

[swift mist]

i just got a 13:35 run with a common divine strike and no dash strike upgrades etc

[dry mango]

just keep playing trough the stroy

[swift mist]

most of the time they're based on story progression not just talking to them over and over

like how progressing with hypnos was based on getting close to thanatos and telling him to talk to hypnos, or something

[hollow void]

Still working on getting the lock for Meg unlocked, any tips?

[signal aspen]

keep fighting her

[cyan flicker]

So uh, have they announced if the Vinyl records will be going back on sail anytime soon? or where they just limited to that initial release

[signal aspen]

idk

[atomic seal]

same idk

[swift mist]

i literally cant get an enemy with the "popper" trait to spawn

it's the only one i need to complete the prophecy

[hollow hawk]

they only appear in elysium

[swift mist]

i know

i have gone through elysium a bunch of times and havent got one

[hardy oasis]

Consider using BP2 if you can't find Poppers

[swift mist]

bp2?

[hardy oasis]

Benefits Package 2

It's where the armored enemies have two perks instead of one

[swift mist]

i've been playing with it maxed every run

[hardy oasis]

Oh

Then uuhhhh

Good luck

You'll find it eventually

[brisk trail]

I have returned to say that I have finally obtained every achievement in this game, maxed out all bonds, and fulfilled every prophecy, after already getting the 32 Heat/Extreme Measures 4 win.

And now I feel the emptiness that usually comes with completing a game for its worth

[swift mist]

also i can't seem to get the legendary chaos boon

i get a normal chaos boon, wait for it to go to normal, get another chaos gate, spam all my rerolls, no legendary

every single run

my luck is terrible

with the olympian gods i seemed to get the legendaries very easily

[brisk trail]

I mean, you've already maxed out the legendary thing in the mirror, and are using the chaos boon for higher chance at rare stuff, right?

[swift mist]

ive been using the egg thing yes

and i have everything in mirror maxed

[brisk trail]

Honestly, that one seems like one of the more common legendaries considering how A. It has zero previous requirements and B. Chaos is always useful to go for over most options.

and C. Several other legendaries have annoyingly specific qualifications

So it's weird you haven't gotten it during normal play.

[swift mist]

no the chaos legendary requires you to have got a normal boon from them already

so it has to be at least the 2nd chaos gate in a run

[brisk trail]

Well, other than that I suppose. He pops up what, like 5-6 times a playthrough?

[swift mist]

yeah

i guess

[brisk trail]

Just keep going for it until you get it, like all the other dumb grindy stuff in the game.

[quiet canopy]

Shield is kind of low on dps but it is impossible to lose with it

i didn't use keyboard on the hades i just do this special dash thing 😄

only lost 30-40 hp

[brisk trail]

I think all of the weapons have tools that are good for fighting Hades with the sole exception of the default sword, which basically makes the game feel more like an action game than the other weapons do.

[fast depot]

But which weapon is the best?

[swift mist]

the fists are my most used but the daedalus enchantments on them are literally so boring

like they barely change anything

[brisk trail]

@fast depot Kinda irrelevant when they can all be made broken with the right boons and upgrades.

[fast depot]

Pog

[craggy barn]

breaching cross is a pretty massive boost wdym

[swift mist]

i feel like breaching cross barely helps bc all the armored enemies you come across, you can melt anyway if you have a good build

its probably the best one but still

all the others are boring

[brisk trail]

Kinetic Launcher + Aspect of Demeter is fun.

Any high-damage output special boon combined with that deletes Health bars.

[craggy barn]

sword's hammers are way worse anyways

[brisk trail]

One thing that makes the fists better than the sword, in my opinion, is that it has a way better dash attack and special move.

[craggy barn]

"cruel thrust" get outta here i'm not using the attack sequence

[brisk trail]

Yeah, those are lame.

[craggy barn]

i think fists and sword's dash attacks are both equally great

fists doesn't do much base damage but i always used anyways since you chain attacks with it

[brisk trail]

You know what, sword isn't that bad now that I think about it, I just last used excalibur when I used it

and that kinda turned me off from it for the rest of my 100% journey.

[craggy barn]

sword is a bit dependent on your build but if you use nemesis or double edge or both it's amazing with or without attack boons

[brisk trail]

Spear/Bow/Rail/Shield are definitely above both though.

[wild island]

my fav is twin gloves of malphon

[stoic violet]

I beat the game for my second and third time yesterday and all three times have been with rail....

[ivory geode]

i know im 2 days late but i have Ideas for this, i have for a while
consider: going the other way around as well, kiu weapons themed after hades characters... zagreus blade, athena orbitars, artemis bow....
also keepsakes

[red jewel]

😳
👉👈

yes

[ivory geode]

dark pit's keepsake is a mirror shard that deals damage over time to nearby enemies
pit's makes you get more obols, gemstones and darkness ||for each point of heat, like the intensity system||

[red jewel]

Yes
but what about Palutena's keepsake?
Since you'd be getting boons from her, most likely

just-
floor food

[hushed pumice]

Smells like off topic 🧐

[red jewel]

👁👄👁
we be talking about Kid Icarus crossing over with Hades

so Aspect of Pit on Coronarcht and Palutena boons

[dawn swallow]

Hello there. Could you please direct me to which channel should I report a possible bugs?

[half zephyr]

Tech support?
Though on pc I think it’s the

[dawn swallow]

it's more of visual observation if anything

nothing gameplay-impacting

This one is minor, but it involves Lucky Tooth Keepsake and either of Athena's boons replenishing Death Defiance (Deathless Stand and Last Stand).

After consuming Skelly's Lucky Tooth Death Defiance and replenishing it with Last/Deathless Stand, once the Athena's instance of Death Defiance is consumed, Zagreus may refer to this by saying "by the power of Skelly's Tooth"

[sonic acorn]

do i just beat the game after finishing one escape attempt?

[hollow hawk]

no

you never really beat the game

its a roguelite

theres plenty more content after one escape

theres the ending, the epilogue, side quests with all the characters, etc.

[half zephyr]

when you beat daddy without him even getting to use his lasers

Or losing a dd

“Tell no one at the house. Do you hear me?”

In the name of someone very sore right now