#h1-discussion
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First time I saw him, I was like "eh, he's pretty slo- 50 DAMAGE?!"
so I just camped the hell out of him

Charon definitely seems like a "memorize and execute perfectly or die" kind of fight
I think I've only beaten him 3 times so far
actually charon is easy, but if he hits you you pobably are dead un tartarus
but I also think I've only run into him 4-5 times
charon seems like a camp or perish kinda boss
he's fun
I just beat him twice in a row for the prophecy, but during different runs and I ran out of death defiance each time.
F
same 😄
I don't think I've ever been able to fight him outside Tartarus. Like literally, the game won't spawn the bag thing in any other area for some odd reason.
well, minus the losing all dd both times
first time I didn't lose a dd to him cuz I just that good a build for some reason
epic dmg & all
it's rng, but has to mid level shop
yeah it has to be the shop levels with the cage right
it has to be mid region shops
never penultimate shops
I just pray for patroclus everytime I'm out of dd
I got 116hp!
this gonna be fiiiine
it's a little odd that it's called a "near miss" when it does miss you
it's not that it "nearly missed", it's because it missed and you were near it
the wording is weird though 
well this isn't something I expected to see coming into #h1-discussion but I agree
lmao
images that precede unfortunate events
I vibe with that
lost all 3 dd, but is all good now - got patroclus & chaos legend boon that'll give me an extra DD 
what are y'all's favorite gods?
Than
its kinda obvious with me
even if he's an incarnation of death here
I gotta say demeter's design really impressed me
Artemis
the whole theme with her
bitterness turning the goddess of seasons to winter
it's so clever
idk, dio maybe?
aphy for actually being aphy
the olympians are all kind of petty jerks but I like Artemis
LMAO true
Poseidon is just like 110% pure distilled Uncle
which is endearing in its own way
the only thing I like about ares is how he sees nyx
Ares is a terrifying bastard but he's consistent about it at least. Dude knows who he is
Artemis just wants to chill in the woods with her nymph friends and I can respect that
Dio is a fun personality
dionysus is fun but sometimes I get tired of him
specially because I'm a trippy shot main
I need to get him every time
Dionysus is the guy you want to party with sometimes but absolutely do not want to live with
You gotta give it up for Poseidon too
he's the really fun guy you don't want to get too close to because then he's calling you like "hey, man, I'm stuck 40 miles away and I don't have a shirt, I don't even know how I got here, what a night"
"I woke up in a Planet Fitness locker room, strangest thing, don't even have a membership!"
define "for actually being aphrodite"
pink hair naked lady
I'll just say that Hypnos is part of the reason I'm bi
aww
Hermes and Athena are always a welcome sight
hypnos was annoying in the beginning with the non-helpful advice lol
that was a fun build.
never say too much, never too little
Demeter+Dionysus+Hermes build
but now that I die to dad and natural causes he's great
won't make you go "Oh no, it's you again?"
Dionysus call + Hermes "Move speed + Dodge" on call + Chill Decay on Attack
thicc damage over time build
Demeter has good survivability stuff right?
like, get a single call off of the Dionysus aid, and mobs are taking 200+ damage every half second
she has a few
like the healing boon
and then there's stubborn roots
the duo with athena
it's a won run
gives you passive regen in combat as long as you're out of revives
Demeter can have good boons but half the time she will offer things so useless you'll wish you picked the centaur heart instead
honestly I feel that sometimes
when she offers the rarity booster boon late in a run
I'm the guy that never uses Cast or Special soooooo
Demeter's even more worthless to me than the other gods
hahaha
playful, flirting - but loving, her actually just knowing when you've filled out certain heart meters
not just someone who only controls love lives and cares about her looks
my most used gods are dionysus demeter and athena
depictions of aphy are not usually very nice, let's just say
true
I see
Yup!
this game is probably her most charitable depiction out there
I've never really thought about that
I generally use Ares, Poseidon, and Artemis
i'll give it up
she's pretty decent in IFR too
Which probably speaks to how impatient I am
Someone hasn't picked against her in the trials, I see-
lol
I do that all the time
but they all act prissy when you don't choose them so
the only one that feels in-character to pick against is dionysus
Aphrodite is pretty easy to dodge against annoying brats, though
hahahaha
cuz she loves us
More importantly, why would Ares forgive you?
her ||little sprout||
we keep killing things in battle & it amuses him
Fair
that nickname is adorable
I love it
also I gotta say I kinda like zeus sometimes
LMAO
like that one time zeus was like
"I try to cheer her up about her daughter but it never works so try to be sensible around the subject with her okay?"
hahahahahha
he doesn't like mock her or belittle her for her grief
HAHAHAHAH
even if he thinks it's long overdue
I can't wait for you to get to later on in the story
but he's also utterly clueless
you might change your mind about him & that line then 
lol why
also on a winstreak of 3
Dad is 4-2 on me right now
oh I lost to dad like 8 times in a row before first win
I beat him on my first try, ironically
Once I had 3 DDs it was over for him
Then I was like "wow, he's a bit of a pushover"
ooh, special dialogue then
WRONG
(Whoops, that wasn't in response to #h1-discussion message)
Spin attack is frustrating
THESEUS!! ASTERIUS!! IT'S BATTLE TIME!!
More annoying is when ||you're right next to him and he boils your blood||
aphrodite's debuff is quite nice against him in the rare occasion I pick her stuff

I don't know what asterius sees in him either way
I just feel like Asterius is babysitting Theseus tbh
do what?
You know where the door is
hahahaha
They did a great job making Theseus sound like a spoiled brat
I don't get the reference
Zagreus says something rational and he's like "Get away from me demon!"
daemon*
i would love theseus' voice actor to appear on stream or something
There is no reference, only joke
lol
the way that courtney (aphro and dusa voice actor) does
he streams
I would love a Theseus let's play series
Yes
I need to see Dionysus' voice actor lol
where the guy plays games in character of theseus
AAAAAA
My favourite voice acting in the game.
diony VA does a great job at getting in character
Second favourite.
and theseus's VA too for that matter
Nice!
nice indeed
Time to vanquish* Cerberus
What kill is better than overkill?
this game feels like an outlet for me to live the daddy issues I never had
specially with the past 2-3 runs
hahahaha
seems like he really got hurt when zagreus said the "consolation prize" thing
but hey that's what happens when you can't sit down with your kid and have some proper COMMUNICATION
Hades, the roguelike that includes spoiled brats, daddy issues, and the spear being the straightest thing in sight
Ah, dang it
the spear is curvy now
lol
Beat Saber yooo
who is unironically the most straight character in this game?
meg???
nyx is mother to many but like
she don't need no man to do it
charon only lusts for coin
LMFAO
dusa is dusa
I guess it's either dad, mother or meg
it's most likely hades since I've seen dialogue where it's revealed that he might've only ever been with mom
well maybe he just never had the time to explore his romantic feelings with not-mom
even if they existed
💀

there was one time dad broke the trap urns with the laser attack
and I got stunned
to death
second phase
sad
I bought titan blood 😄
for what?
im about to do a run as well
you dont have to do that
I mean I had 1200 coins so
and 2 chambers left
I can still make more coins for boon
if I wanna get 10th clear as soon as possible I'm gonna have to leave the bow with 0 clears for now
plus I got 4 dd + acorn
arthur is too good
i mean with the blood
I want to invest in Hera if I have to use it tho
you dont have to use it
just try it and see if you like it
no heat, no upgrades
itll be fine
I have to win though 
Anyone know if NPC rooms are RunProgress rooms, MetaProgress rooms or neither?
both
Meaning it increases the counter for both of those room types?
nah, just see if you vibe with it
dont put too much pressure on the win
the pressure is there lol
why?

when I wanted aphrodite basic attack but got call instead
hades fight?
done \0/
and I got the best mid fight dialogue ever
why can't you be this ferocious when cleaning your chambers
my chambers aren't as entertaining to fight
oh okay it's not literally all 3 of them
I thought I'd have to drain 3 HP bars
good lord
lmao
imagine having to chase all 3 of them around the chamber to do dmg
I feel like Zag has 20 nicknames
sure
"Edgy Sword Guy"
shadow, how did that run go
great
only lost 1 dd since I didn't have the best dps
on break now - just ate dinner
gonna look at who's thirsty soon
Which one is that again?
Ahh, I see- oh
it's demeter athena duo
What about Stubborn Defiance? That could be pretty good
Hold on, wiki to the rescue!
AND I GOT ICE WINE TOO LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOO
Yeah, Stubborn Defiance is considered DD for the purposes of Stubborn Roots
nice
"Olympus Caller"
slow run tho - 37 mins
then again I did do all styx chambers for fun & money
Is it just me or I can’t really fight Charon anymore once Hermes challenge me to beat him, the gold bag doesn’t seem to appear anymore
this is why I wanted you to do the 10th run now 
idk, could just be bad rng
I know the conditions, but even with the conditions fulfilled, they don’t seem to appear anymore
I've gone multiple runs not seeing the bag
You guys did manage to complete Hermes’s task, right?
I have now yes
Ok, bad RNG then I guess
I mean I still have 6 loyalty cards I need to get for the complete entry so I know I can get it again 
I don't wanna get 3 red onions though 
What does that mean?
Ha, I already got my 3 onions! ...unintentionally...
think I just called on olympians often 
must be related to boons
moment of truth @unborn remnant
will it be Hera..
aegis again... I JUST HAD YOU EARLIER
why is dark thirst avoiding the bow 😂
I'll try just doing runs until I get bow 
COME ON
@half zephyr hear me out on this
skip the dark thirst for this one
please lmao
it's too late 
unless I give up I guess
she comes off as... just.. selfish
why?
next run if it's not bow I'll just do bow anyways
Itll be funnier every time its not the bow
She takes after her mother I guess
she has to go back to the overworld
families make sacrifices
is it?
yes
I dont know much about the myths
she ate the seeds of a pomegranate in the underworld
Well if we are going down that route
and so has to stay 6 months of the year or so
Persephone is much more cruel in the myths
yes, but like
they are trying to fit the game around the myths
she always had to go
it's fated
^ aye
I hope that wasn't a bug
the darkness one for the records?
well I don't know what it was
cruel & kind
I think it's the chaos quest that I'm missing
Ok... I'll go further
they were above mortals & were the cause of everything that happened
Perseph is practically evil
she had a quest to give when I came back
but then after I went into father's room before talking to her
she had no quest anymore
only normal dialogue
Keep going into the record room
and make sure you talk to hades and nyx before every run
you're on the right path
dont spend your darkness in the meantime
Nyx will want a lot
all you need is a couple collection runs tho
dude not everyone when they are playing just has that much darkness lying around, I didn't
||3142|| I think it was
I didn't either
but you just need a few collection runs with oceans bounty
half of the hades fandom is lowkey greek myth historians
maybe chaos boon
splitting hairs
grew up learning about the myths in school
its unreal
you don't get the darkness back
I wouldn't reccomend that
yes, but then you'll work with less mirror upgrades later =w=
^
I did not get this
I mean the olympus rarity upgrade is pretty expensive and I can live without it being maxed for a while
My experience wss percy jackson books
yea but bro
I'm from europe tho
it's in our history
me out here with 30k darkness just sitting around
but it's your Hell
lol
xD
half the hades fandom read percy jackson and said “yo i know that guy”
No, I haven't bought the chaos theme. I don't really like it that much.
express yourself xD
now that's one of those aphys
The way I saw it , when I was where you are.
Was ok, grab the weapon with the gems/darkness buff
go for darkness rooms = get hp back
follow The Darkness
replying
also do it when I'm correcting myself
I see, very cool
so I got a funny upgrade with the bow
hold Q to charge
doing 500 dmg point blank
is it just me or are some of the achievemnts glitched?
i cleared asphodel (i think that is what the 2nd floor is called) multiple times and i didnť get any achievemnt

also im pretty sure i petted cerberus more than 10 times
you did actually check your achievements right?
Lol I literally just bought a switch to play this game more...
yes i did
Vicious Cycle
pog
Lmaoooo
using more vs the sisters
mort*
I use it prematurely, Alecto dashes out
then dashes back in and dies, was so funny xD
I have hunting blades atm
same!
and ares legendary
and engulfing vortex
Niiice
i'm on my 2nd daedalus hammer in elysium. i thought that wasnt possible?
i got one from the first room and now im on like the 3rd room for another hammer
i thought it was 1 per area
think it's supposed to be 2 pr run unless anvil?
It’s always 2 per run
like, the hammer can show up many many times, but only if you've not picked it 2 times already
it's one that'll keep on appearing until you either get it or it's too late
Black Metal
So I heard daddy got a special line if you completed a run without any boon
I’ve gotten them both actually
He has no lines for not using any mirror upgrades, but Megaera does.
Urge to Kill 
i wonder what happens if you cheat in every boon are you still able to find other boons?
I wanna try, but I guess that run gonna be like 40min then? 
if you have every single one of a god's available boon what happens?
cheat?
also i just broke a blue pot and it took away 35 of my gold lol, ive never saw that before
If you don’t feel like doing a boonless run, you could always do a normal one and purge all your boons at the end
yeah if a hack or something comes out that lets you cheat in items and stuff
(I did boonless though)
that wouldn't be fun tho
Wait what?
that would be cool
0 heat runs after getting used to higher heats 
I guess I’ll try it later then
But you can’t guarantee you’ll get exactly what you want to test
possibly with god mode on since it is training
can still pick out 3 gods with boon combos you wanna try & test & force it
What other special lines that going to show up with similar “no something”?
Source: I’ve tried what you’ve said
first run clear from fresh file
that has a special dialogue
Only no boons i think, though there’s plenty of lines for doing or having something specifically
Oh, I heard Theseus got something to say about Ariadne as well
Yes, three times
That I gotta try lmao
In reference to his myth
Yeah you should it’s fun
Then you know he’s just as much of a jerk in it as he is in the game
Kinda sad
Not a bad guy, just a jerk
Wait what? I thought his story was kinda sad lmao
Yeah, you’re not wrong
If by sad you mean ||he ends up alone but as king|| then yes
||I can show you a Jim Henson version of the tale if you want||
Maybe I should check back on his story lol
Oh pretty please, I don’t mind
Another dad died
Keep in mind that I say Jim Henson, but there’s only really one or two puppets, still an enjoyable watch imo
i just woke up and the first thing i saw was this
like yea ik its the hades chat but still
ooh, 100th death
@dusky wedge Anyways enjoy~:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xqh152
Sorry
good awakening then
comes with the territory :v

;w;
YES
it was just sudden youre fine
very
So here’s a mind blowing revelation; The Fates are basically just ||Gwonam||
||”It is written, only Link can defeat Ganon!”||
Now see what happens after talking to ||him||
Aight, 23min, thanks man
Np~
I mean I already know
nothing is spoiler free long in this channel 
Not if I can help it

Wait, then don’t you mean 500 darkness for 1 Ambrosia?
Also same, I’ve bought and done everything else, all I need left is all the Resource Director titles.
hehe being at that point is so funny
just like "i used to treasure this"
Although considering there’s ||fifty|| of them I don’t plan on getting them all
and now its just a tool
I still do, I hoard them 
(I have a problem)
ive honestly stopped doing high heat
i dont need the bounties as much
what i want is upgraded
especially since alll my weapons are at like 16
I still need a lot of blood
i just dont have the energy
I want all aspects maxed for fun
Well it’s still something to do, which is the only reason I’m doing them
Mine already are 
? Is that a prophecy?
and if I get a run in with fated authority I'll have 8 blood 
I got the game on new years eve ok XD
i havent done that in 90 runs
since i dont wanna have to run the last 2
the revenge duo and the aphro/dem duo i think
I got it January 9th, so later than you
i just dont want to have to run those
I didn't play it for a month tho 
i got it the weekend it came out 😎
Keep in mind I have a problem
I also got IFR at the same time
and I was babysitting for 3 weeks so I had very limited playtime 
Weekend of first early access, or weekend of 1.0?
does time in chaos affect your pact of punishment timer?
Yes iirc
But that’s like 10 seconds max
Unless you’re speedrunning it shouldn’t matter
first weekend of 1.0 and i got it a little bit after it came out in early access
welp, time for another dodge run - alas, poor @unborn remnant , it was fists this time
it literally skipped the bow
But bow 
I don't like the bow so I don't mind
but I was gonna try a hera build for lyte XD
but I follow The Darkness
it's yet to choose the bow again
I’m certain that by this point I’ve told you what you need to do when using bow so I won’t bother you by repeating it
^
because I love close range melee fighting in this game with a lot of dashing & dps
they made it much better
and I never get it with the bow
Didn’t like it at first because I didn’t know how to use it, now I love it
What if I told you bow is actually a melee weapon in disguise
That’s what Skelly is for
I will believe that it is that for you, but that it doesn't work for me
and that that should be fine
It’s actually ||both||
doesn't matter if I still can't do it out in the run
it doesn't fit my playstyle
Well I mean you get used to the timing with Skelly
I forget all about timing things when I'm in a run
I just want to have fun!
and bow is not fun >.<
ive gotten the timing so down its just muscle memory
How do you not die every run then?
This tbh
lots of status effects & dashing
and if its rama you can still kill uncharged
But dashing takes timing
no, I just button mash

I usually have a status effect on my dash
so I can just move around & they get the effect & take damage & boom
If it’s Rama you might need to, it’s slow charge can creep up on you at the worst of times
saaaame
why are you not using artemis dash with rama
lmao, yea thats the dash you have to go
Artemis Dash bow every time
I haven't done a single run with rama
I only got rama yesterday I think & I have yet to unlock it
Divine Dash every other weapon
divine dash is so booooring though
divine dash is boring unless you're running ME
Boring, But Practical
Don’t take tidal with fists
aphy is ok too
Biggest mistake ever
Considering how I use fists, Blade Dash works well
well, no
my last fist run was...
uhm..
either athena cuz I ran out of options or lightning cuz it was the only option XD
I don't like ares dash
hehe my old 32 strat back in early access was getting arte dash since its good
now im not as dumb

and yk i never beat 32 in early access
its good but you need to be playing fist or sword
and be dashing around a lot
still doesn't mean I like it though
ye i dont like it either
I've used it but it just doesn't suit me
nice the first time you beat charon counts for the double prophecy
and I got dad with the bow on the same run
suddenly had 22 titan blood in my hands
I've heard varying things about this, although it counted for me.
it counted for me too

is there anything like op weapon ?
My least favorite dash might be Mistral Dash simply because it’s like a projectile that shoots in front of you instead of a ring like the others, which is funny because Frost Strike is one of my favorite attack boons
im not sure which one should i main
what is the main thing about game
wonder if I can get a better dodge % this run
i have 13 hours play time
Both
umm speed, power, and survuvability
beaten hades like 5 times
but most people skip the survivability part
ooh, don't stay here unless you're comfy w spoilers
^ visit #h1-for-new-players
fast clears means less opportunity to make mistakes and take damage
spoilers idc
SPOILER ALERT ZAGREUS IS THE PROTAGONIST
ok then
oh no
OH FU

lol
SPOILER ALERT ZAGREUS DIES
😄
arthur is the most OP I've unlocked so far
SPOILER ALERT ZAGREUS LIVES
again?
what weapon should i mean titan bloods are hard to find for me
uh
main
whatever you like the most
that's not something we can tell you tho
^
I just used titan blood to unlock all the aspects first
if you can't decide, play with them until you figure it out
like me & lapisonic here be arguing over bow all the time 
most of them don't need investment to be usable
Ooooo, you know what should be a thing? Resetting Titan Blood upgrades like the mirror.
it's up to each individual person & their playstyle
only guan yu was a horrible horrible pain at level 1 so I just upgraded it
shield's aspect of chaos and bow's aspect of chiron also need investment
Try Chiron
zag fists need an upgrade 
personal
chiron is ok
they're all viable
i cant decideeeeeeeee :/
yea bow is just good
think my only bow clears are on chiron
which one is doing most damage?
which is not saying much since it's only 2 or 3
achillies spear is also dumb
i want good damage fast clear
I haven't unlocked all hidden aspects yet disclaimer
There’s a hammer upgrade that makes Chiron shred through bosses(not normal enemies oddly enough)
and most rails are good
you want a melee maybe then?
fist is by opinion
off the top of my head, eris rail and nemesis sword are the fastest I know of
eris rail is the one that's given me most clears by far
i started game yesterday now have 13h play time
If you can’t pick a weapon, make a cast build
I've done up to 10 heat with her
this game is addicting
This is only the beginning
😄
honestly when I'm using a weapon I don't like I just get by with cast and special
man, I'm still missing 1 bow upgrade in general
yea casts are crazy if you get the right boons
it's a roguelite...
Same, but try Mirage Shot + Hunting Blades
the story?
yea thats the genre
its the same thing with differences
your builds make the difference
i didnt mean anything bad it is fun aswell 😄
and hades is one that did story well
the only thing that changes is story
like no other roguelike does story well tbh
this is the only one that does a story
I kind of liked Gungeon’s since it didn’t take itself too seriously
it's just spread out information
hades feels like a lightnovel dating sim decorating game with some fighting added to it
and the fighting is epic
yea it was fun and the lore is weirdly deep
but i never paid attention to it
Also all the pasts are giant shoutouts to something else, Bullet’s being the best.
unless you count the intro 
is sword good ?
yea
nemesis is fun
like i was expecting every weapon which is new is going to be better
but i think they are all good and personal
yeah they are for variety
sgg balanced everything so well
not linear upgrade
except bow
😄
one of the most balanced games ive seen
lol



I use sword the most because I got aspect of arthur
I just unlocked arthur & can't wait to try him out!
before that it was pretty even usage with all of them, except rail sitting at 1
next time sword be thirsty that is
i dont like arthur but you do you
too slow
cant build with much besides flat damage buffs
SONIC SPEED!
special is kinda useless imo
I wanna try to either slow down enemies more, or just get speed buffs
special is niche
really hard to decide.. :/
and hard to use
since ik you get damage reduction
the game rewards you for playing all the weapons
I just wanna try it out 
and the duo that also lowers damage
Same but you can actually dash forward while charging up the powerful third strike I found
I don't know if I'll like it
arthur is slow for sure
anybody here mains gun ?
yea but that requres me to think
I always fish for hermes atk speed boon
Same
accidentally I guess if you look away from my Darkness stalking
What if there was a gun aspect called Aspect of ||Kong|| that turned it into a ||COCONUT GUN||
I apologize
if you don't use casts I think you'll want a weapon with some good range
like spear
because of hydra
hydra full melee can be so annoying
I hate Blue Hydra and his stupid head banging
my build is doom effect on exploding spear
my fav one
there is better builds probably but i dont know isnt it good ?
They’re all good, it depends on how you use them.
I hope I get better dodge this time
you don't get to choose boons for full builds
you can half plan around boons
the most you can do is fish for the basics
I WANT
Fated Persuasion and Keepsakes
like duos & such
what is ability of hidden spear
itll fire in spurts
by just forcing summons
Mods when
and if it hits you
can i find in this discord
its gonna hurt
hidden spear is very different from default
yes
it's a pinned msg in #h1-story-discussion
Hades is on Switch, where’s my Nintendo related aspects?
all the hidden aspects & how to unlock
so Master Sword then
or Hylian Shield 
hehe lol
we bayonetta now
I'd rather have inkling gun
WHICH ONE
splattershot fits better





