h1-discussion

[rich acorn]

Cause it has like no downsides, and it's slowness is negated by the aura

[unborn remnant]

Arthur with artemis attack

big number generator

[rich acorn]

It also feels like the big swords from breath of the wild

[unborn remnant]

agree

[mystic steeple]

Also, doesn't Hermes also give you a Boon that increases attack speed, meaning Arthur has no downsides?

[grand crystal]

i mean it has no ranged option so that sucks

makes you kinda have to build cast

[naive falcon]

I'm at the end-game farm for themes. I wonder is there any specific strategy? like - maybe instead of framing resources - I should focus on a single resource and trade it to the resource I need or anything more efficient?

[wise sparrow]

i love this game

[grand crystal]

i feel like it just comes down to getting good posiedon and chaos boons tbh

and always taking darker thirst on an already completed heat

but itll be kinda slow

[naive falcon]

Ermm, yea. Framing already completed heat is indeed faster. But you kinda want to push heat for more bounties.

[mystic steeple]

I mean, it's a Sword. That's kinda expected. Plus, you still can use Bloodstones, Calls, or Summons for range options.

[naive falcon]

Was wondering if getting Darkness perhaps is faster - because Darkness let you buy a lot of things at the resource trader.

[grand crystal]

id say just get darkness. it takes a lot for the theme and like why not

but it all depends on what you want to do

hades is a slog to grind in

[naive falcon]

Yea. I already maxed all relationships, finished the prophecies, epilogue. Think I will call it a quite when I'm done buying all the House items and won't go to theme/titles.

Just reached my 100 run today. So it sounds about right to quit 🙂

[shrewd helm]

I'm doing a no heat run rn so I can get the prophecy for clearing with all the mirror bonuses

I'm using Arthur and i didnt want to try for heat 6 using a hodge podge of mirror boons I'm not use to

[mystic steeple]

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention

I unlocked everything

[flat halo]

Woah

All relationships

But then again, I’m at run 42

[grand crystal]

im at like run 71 and i still dont have them maxed

i beat the game so fast to where they never gave me new dialogue until recently

[flat halo]

Literally just started using ambrosia

Beat the game first at 15

How did you farm for the relationship stuff

Just heat and gems?

[grand crystal]

i mean with relationships its just playing the game a lot

and rng for dialogue

[flat halo]

For now, I’m just trying to run Meg face in

With no mirror buff

Sure, I die before meeting the champs

But soon, Meg. I will meet her and prove her wrong

[grand crystal]

i hate meg with a passion

her character is just a big no for me

[flat halo]

Who’s your fav then?

[halcyon oriole]

Dusa is the objectively correct answer

[grand crystal]

than :3 he's baby

dusa is a very close second

[unborn remnant]

i know the real answer

[grand crystal]

achilles and patty are just the gay dads that everyone loves

and bouldy is perfect

but yea i hate meg

shes just a sadist sasuke

and i dont like it

[gaunt tapir]

Alecto doe 😳

[grand crystal]

i mean i dont like any of the furies tbh

[gaunt tapir]

I like meg :)

[grand crystal]

like in terms of the plot and developed characters yea its great, but on a personal level i hate them

[gaunt tapir]

of course

I get that

[waxen plume]

unpopular opinion: i like tisiphone

[grand crystal]

murder is great

but i never die to her so i never get new dialogue

[waxen plume]

the pre fight dialogue with her is cute

[grand crystal]

i find the alecto dialogue funny as hell

[rustic swift]

Hey, does the game have some internal framecap? I'm on epic game store (I know I know) so I don't have the steam overlay to check the actual fps. I'm on a 165 hz monitor, but the game feels slightly... not entirely smooth I guess?

[grand crystal]

huh idk, when i play on my garbage 8 year old computer it runs on a smooth 45-60

very optimized game but idk

[rustic swift]

Also is the game supposed to freeze for a second sometimes when you strike an enemy or dodge?

I'm on a RTX 3080, so I would think it's how the game is designed, but I'm not sure

[grand crystal]

ummmm no, the animations dont have much hitstop

[rustic swift]

Huh, I figured it was some kind of hitstop

[grand crystal]

they have a bit i think but not enough for it to freeze for a whole second

[unborn remnant]

You may have vsync on

[rustic swift]

No, it isn't freezing for a literal second, I just meant it freezes for a moment

I do have vsync on in the nvidia control panel

Does driver level vsync not play well with the game or something?

[unborn remnant]

maybe idk

try disabling it

[rustic swift]

hmm, alright

[rustic swift]

Yeah, it's about the same without vsync, maybe slightly more responsive though

[naive parcel]

Hi guys, a question, to get the gilgamesh look, do I need to have my fists on when talking to asterion? I've been looking for the words of asterion for a long time but he doesn't give them to me.

[grand crystal]

no you dont, you just have to be lucky with the dialogue

so it might take a while

[naive parcel]

Ugh, thank you

[upper swallow]

How do I unlock the heart parts for Sisyphus btw. I’m done with the whole main story of the game that’s one of the last things that’s missing and I have no clue how to unlock it

[neon merlin]

How does the lyre work? I know I have to keep interacting with it but how many times? And does it have to be on different runs?

[past mirage]

The lyre needs to be played over a hundred times, but you can do several interactions at a time.

[wild solar]

I have to say
Out of all the characterizations of the god(desses)s
I really enjoy Nyx and Artemis the most

Also, I ||revealed Varatha's hidden aspect||
Woo

[wise sparrow]

it looks like a celery doesn’t it

[wild solar]

I haven't gotten it yet

[neon merlin]

What are the exact things required for that? I did everything the wiki said but Achilles won't talk to me about it

[narrow hemlock]

210 at minimum

[wild solar]

Beats me James

[wise sparrow]

check pinned in story channel

[wild solar]

All I know is that I have the Aspect of Achilles and then he talked to me about it

[wise sparrow]

#h1-story-discussion

[wild solar]

It just happened randomly for me 😄

I'm just going with the flow, y'know?

[narrow hemlock]

keep playing, honestly. the information listed on the wiki is through extensive testing for what works for sure and what doesnt

[wild solar]

Oh, a moderator

hello

[narrow hemlock]

[wild solar]

omg you're in the Bird's Nest

[narrow hemlock]

i am not. i snatched this from someone else. the original artist is ErA though, who has sticker packs on line

but thats venturing a bit off topic

[wild solar]

ah mmk

I'm excited; Varatha has finally revealed its whole self to me

[naive parcel]

Asterion could give me the words with god mode activated?

To unlock the Gilgamesh skin

[high island]

Try the suggestions in #h1-tech-fixes, and if that doesn't fix things, try asking for help in #h1-tech-support.

@naive parcel yes. God Mode has no effect on things like that. Requirements for all the hidden aspects are pinned in #h1-story-discussion.

[naive parcel]

Thank you

[rustic swift]

Ah, ok it might be because I'm using gsync

[snow rivet]

same, just now

[waxen plume]

made sure u talked to bouldy at least once, i was stuck on this for some time too and read somewhere u should talk to bouldy

[green dune]

imagine not talking to bouldy

he's like the best

[upper swallow]

I see, thanks

[wise sparrow]

bouldy rocks haha

[drifting crest]

Always talk to Bouldy when you visit Sisyphus

[wise sparrow]

he gives a boon

[trail pendant]

I always give nectar to him

Because he's a good boy

I love Bouldy

He and Sisyphus are the best

[copper canopy]

So, 200+ runs in and something awesome happened.

||Dusa made the board!||

[green dune]

what do you mean?

[copper canopy]

There’s a board in the lounge that posts a different member of the house after each run, the person on the board is the “Featured House Servant”, essentially this game’s equivalent of Employee of the Day.

At the start, only a few characters appear on the board, but as you progress through other character’s storylines by getting closer to them, others can appear on the board too.

It’s a fun little thing that has zero impact on the gameplay

[stone gulch]

can zag get on the board?

[wise sparrow]

yes!!!

ive gotten it before

[copper canopy]

Awwwww spoilers

[wise sparrow]

oh oops

spoilers are allowed here now sorry :(

[copper canopy]

There allowed, but spoiler tagging them is still polite.

[wise sparrow]

🥺

[copper canopy]

I was really hoping to find out if that was possible on my own too

This new rule is lame, because no one is polite enough to still tag them anymore. I’m gonna head off now, not feeling too great...

[shrewd helm]

As far as spoilers go, thats probably one of the most mild things anyway

Speaking of which. I forged bonds with a few people now. It's nice how there is so much to the story to still enjoy

[gaunt tapir]

The Bone Hydra is now called Lernie and I could not be happier about it

[shrewd helm]

Yea that's nice too lol

It starts off with zagreus just making jokes

Too bad u cant give asterius nectar though

[trail pendant]

I love that little detail 😄

Lernie is still funny even after many runs

[shrewd helm]

I wish you could forge bonds with everyone lol. Tisiphone .... ||is slowly learning to say zagreus||

[dark path]

I just found that out yesterday

I was very excited lmao

[trail pendant]

Theseus and Aterius stopped arguing

Which makes me both happy and sad at the same time

[dark path]

I'm getting to the point where most dialogue is one-liners

[trail pendant]

Any tips on acquiring ||companions||? I already have the ones from ||Meg, Than and Dusa||, but what about the other ones?

[grand crystal]

for ||skelly|| just raise relationship and be ready to ||kill him with maxed zag sword|| then give ambro, ||sisyphus and achilles|| both require their pacts to be undone

its just a lot of time and luck on dialogue

[grand crystal]

me too, its very sad

[shrewd helm]

I'm still waiting for some info on the ||Achilles one. Nyx I think eventually will guide me like she did for sisyphus||

I'm saving up darkness si I can restore ||the sigil||

[grand crystal]

yea, you need ||patroclus to say "risk it all", talk to achilles about that, then nyx should tell you||

just a lot of patience tbh

[shrewd helm]

Yea cause I gave pretty much everyone all the nectar they can have except the Olympians

[grand crystal]

i dont have the ||sisyphus|| or ||achilles|| ones because it takes so much luck

[shrewd helm]

I wanted to get some other stuff done before the ||epilogue||

Ah

[grand crystal]

yea all i have left until then is just like buying house cosmetics, the ||companions|| and just maxing everything

[shrewd helm]

Online I think I read that Dusa will ||offer to give me back the ambrosia and stuff||

Cause I gave her a lot

[grand crystal]

yea but i chose the "keep it" option

i love her too much to tell her to give it back

[shrewd helm]

||I'll take that back. Esp sense she just wants to be friends lol||

[grand crystal]

plus you have soo many

[shrewd helm]

I dont rn

[grand crystal]

oh

well its easy to get more

[shrewd helm]

I could use that ambrosia right now lol

Yea I seem to accumulate it easily. Lots of prophecies still to do as well

Still plenty to do

Dang I wanna max out my mirror stuff but I'm also getting close to ||reuniting Nyx and chaos||

Just a couple more runs probably

[dire delta]

Is it me or does empowering flight's description not match up with what it does? Im running it with aspect of zeus and it doesnt grant me my two stronger strikes upon hitting an enemy, but when it returns to me

[green dune]

After your Special hits, your next 2 Attacks deal +80% damage.

you're saying only when it comes back to you?

it must mean "if your special hits something, you'll get 2 attacks once it comes back" zeus aspect must not be considered to retrigger this... I guess you could ask in #h1-tech-support

[short stirrup]

Im going to c r y

||I was at 21% with charon||

[calm eagle]

Hey does anyone have any advise with what to do with the last three attempts to beat Hades? I've beat him 6 times now with all 6 weapons and I'm not good enough yet to add heat, so any specific aspects I should do? ||I'm going to do Varatha because of Achilles prophecy, but is there anything I should try?||

[runic parrot]

you dont need to add heat to get the credits

[spare tiger]

If you mean just general aspects, Nemesis is ridiculous and stygian hidden is considered broken by most

[runic parrot]

if you are fast, you can try adding tight deadline 1

which is pretty manageable

[spare tiger]

Tight deadline 1 is easy tbh

[runic parrot]

extreme measures 1 or 2 is also not horridly bad, it just needs some getting used to

[spare tiger]

Spoilers for future events

||Your 10th run ends as soon as you leave Styx, so you can raise the heat for a free Blood at the end||

[grand shale]

ive seen haelian play lernie on extreme measures and i dont see too much of a difference apart from the appearance of the map. What exactly is different??

[runic parrot]

the map makes all the difference

its pretty hard if you dont know where youre stepping

but once you get used to it its not too bad

unless youre running hard labor and heightened security

the latter of which should not be done for the faint of heart

[pastel blaze]

credits spoiler question: ||has anyone put the In the Blood vocals over God of the Dead or any of the other tracks that use the same motif?||

[vernal oasis]

hey dudes i just won over hades for the first time here the other night,

but i have a question the more darkness i have the more stronger i am ? or is darkness only used for the mirror ? , and how many % does 100 darkness give me as a example 🙂

[snow rivet]

just the mirror

[vernal oasis]

okay 🙂

thanks dude 🙂

what can darkness be used for when i have fully completed the mirror 🙂 ?

or does that hide some type of suprice i shouldn't know 😛

[half zephyr]

uuuuhhhh

[vernal oasis]

also this is the first rogue like game that really got me ,

[half zephyr]

I guess it depends

for me I need moar

[vernal oasis]

one more run... and BAM its 6am in the morning

[half zephyr]

can it be 6am in the evening?

[brisk trail]

Quick question, in order to progress certain peoples story line to fulfill prophecies, lets use Orpheus' as an example. Do I JUST need conversations with them multiple times or do I also need to be gifting them along the way for it to progress?

[vernal oasis]

in a alternative universe

[half zephyr]

[half zephyr]

both

lots of talky talk & also some gifting

[snow rivet]

also RNG

[half zephyr]

and some gifts can only be given after lots of talky talk

I think I FINALLY got to that point for petrochilles

[brisk trail]

Gotcha. Thanks. And yeah I figured that part out haha. Thanks again! Back to the grind.

[half zephyr]

not sure yet though - need to get that stupid event room more

[vernal oasis]

so to be clear collection darkness is only benefits for the mirror and does not make me stronger in fights :)?

[runic parrot]

the mirror absolutely makes you stronger in fights

[pastel blaze]

holding darkness that you haven't spent doesn't do anything

you can feel free to invest it into the mirror

[calm eagle]

Thanks!

[runic parrot]

if thats what they meant then yes

where does zag keep the darkness anyway

[brazen lagoon]

Pocket

[runic parrot]

is it like a liquid and he keeps it in a flask

i need metacurrency lore dammit

[pastel blaze]

there are non-gameplay related things it can be spent on when you've maxed out the mirror

[spare tiger]

EM bone hydra also can fly around on his final phase

[snow rivet]

im doin a run right now

tryin to get merciful end before hades

in elysium

[runic parrot]

good luck

god you'll need it

[snow rivet]

tru

[runic parrot]

ME seems like the worst one to try to get

it just never comes up

[snow rivet]

i still havent beaten hades once do

i got good chaos boons to increase RNG

[brazen lagoon]

merciful end shows up once every light year

[snow rivet]

im starting the theseus fight now

iv'e got curse of agony so this boi goin down

do you guys usualy start by taking out the minotaur, or should i go for theseus, iv'e ben going for the minotaur in the past, what do you think

[brazen lagoon]

personally i go for minotaur first but going for theseus first is also viable

[runic parrot]

theseus is harder to deal with in the second phase

i usually deal damage to both of them though

until just about half for theseus, then i kill the bull

[brazen lagoon]

most of the time you'd want the minotaur dead or almost dead by the time theseus gets to 2nd phase

[snow rivet]

second phase demeter is so annoying tho

[brazen lagoon]

true

[runic parrot]

just hope you get artemis kekw

[snow rivet]

i can usualy do it without losing defiance

yep

of posidon

ill keep you guys updated

[hollow fiber]

does the pulverizing blow upgrade for the shield cancel out knockback from poseidon boons?

[brazen lagoon]

ye

s

[hollow fiber]

damn

glad i didnt pick it. thanks

[snow rivet]

i killed asterius

hope i get artemis god attacks from theseus

i got aphrodite

shes ok

but still annoying

better than demeter tho

im using demeter fists and my buffed specials keep missing

kill theseus

[hollow fiber]

also just beat asterius for the first time

[snow rivet]

merciful end is a nogo sadly

i can't get it now

[runic parrot]

no athena or ares in styx?

[snow rivet]

noice

yep but i haven't unlocked the rerroll boon

just got the satyr sack

starting the hades fight now

[shrewd helm]

Sweet. I got weak on my special and hangover on attack and I just got low tolerance

And I missed a fishing point because I was too excited dang

Lol

[snow rivet]

im starting hades phase two

[hollow kettle]

why does Dionysus help Theseus, he was like a jerk to Dionysus' wife

[grand crystal]

dionysus just wants a good time

[unborn remnant]

is this a myth reference

[shrewd helm]

I love how the game played off the backstory of their relevance

[unborn remnant]

i literally was about to say "lore"

[shrewd helm]

Like it was a prank on orpheus

[hollow kettle]

yeah

[unborn remnant]

🗿

[hollow kettle]

Theseus couldn't have gotten through the labyrinth without Ariadne's help and then he ditched her on an island where Dionysus found her

[unborn remnant]

how do you know so much about this

i feel like every hades fan is lowkey has a phd in greek mythology

LMAO

[hollow kettle]

Oh honey Hades is far from the first Greek myth-related thing that I have hyperfixated on

[grand crystal]

i still find it funny how fenyx rising came out after hades so like we already had our amazing greek game and ubisoft just tries to be funny but it doesnt work

[unborn remnant]

@hollow kettle are you just a myth entusiast

[hollow kettle]

Pretty much

[grand crystal]

me over here who watches overly sarcastic productions and thats how i get mythos info

[hollow kettle]

my username should be a dead giveaway lmao

[snow rivet]

i died

[grand crystal]

oof

[unborn remnant]

good point

poseidon is pretty good ill give it up

[runic parrot]

i dont know much about greek mythology but i know just enough to predict the main plot threads of this game

it was still a well written story though

[grand crystal]

i appreciate how it was focused on the cthonic gods since everything else overuses the main olympians

very refreshing

[calm eagle]

Hello OSP!

I've been watching them since 2016, I'm honestly still obsessed

[unborn remnant]

hades fans 🤝 percy jackson fans
modern retellings of
greek mythology

[calm eagle]

the joke is i've never read percy jackson

[grand crystal]

osp is very good

hell thats where i learned about zag's existence

[calm eagle]

I grew up on english translations of the Iliad and Odyssey and it's the reason I project to hard onto any Patroclus

Hell yeah! They are downright fantastic

I reccomend half of my english classes just to check it out before studying the books

[brazen lagoon]

percy jackson is the best book series like ever

[grand crystal]

-_-

[brazen lagoon]

?

[grand crystal]

i dont think its too great

[brazen lagoon]

L

[calm eagle]

I know it is!! I feel so bad for never reading it because I respect riordan but Madeline Miller

[snow rivet]

iv

[grand crystal]

but like the arc of a scythe trilogy is very good, not mythology related at all but still a good series

[snow rivet]

literely never read percy jackson

has anyone read eragon?

[calm eagle]

Normalise being a greek myth major without having read percy jackson

[brazen lagoon]

i want to major in greek myth

[snow rivet]

also the tales of the otori series is dope

[brazen lagoon]

sounds cool

[calm eagle]

damn right it is

[snow rivet]

you red it?

[calm eagle]

oh no the greek myth major thing

[snow rivet]

ok

so sad

[brisk trail]

Ah

i got poseidons and ares duo boon and i hate it ??

oop

[calm eagle]

What is it?

[brisk trail]

also probably bc i got artemis’ boon that does damage when crystals leave and now my build is kinda messed up

im using poseidons blade

its changes flood shot into something else

[calm eagle]

Oh I love that one

[brisk trail]

ive never had it before

[calm eagle]

But ye it's kinda weird for specific builds

[rich acorn]

||Does orpheus not appear when you can buy the contract that lets him see eurydice?||

[brisk trail]

i didnt know it makes it so it doesnt lodge

So sad

Im at hydra im gonna attempt to sell it after i beat lernie

[runic parrot]

ouch yeah ares/poseidon isnt a good duo imo

especially with poseidon sword

which is, as we all know, objectively the best weapon in the game

[brisk trail]

haha

its good with artemis’ boon

[unborn remnant]

modern retellings of myth are pretty great

[brisk trail]

i didnt know

[rich acorn]

||Cause I want to see his reaction||

[brisk trail]

oh well i got that duo boon of my fated list atleast

[runic parrot]

true shot + exit wounds + fully loaded is great

an all-artemis cast build is great

[brisk trail]

chefs kiss

[runic parrot]

second best is either poseidon or aphro cast for me

but i know most people dont really like aphro cast

i like it on the account of it being aoe

[rich acorn]

||So does he just not appear?||

[unborn remnant]

aphrodite cast is very good

[brisk trail]

i dont know sorry jake

[unborn remnant]

for hera bow

[brisk trail]

Hera bow is prettttyy cool

but i dont like the bow in general

[unborn remnant]

Its easily my fav of the bow aspects

[brisk trail]

ok off to beat lernies butt

or heads

[unborn remnant]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: its a shotgun

[runic parrot]

if i recall correctly he didnt even react to it when i bought it, only a few runs after did he give an exclamation mark dialogue

[unborn remnant]

also the crush shot sound design

[runic parrot]

but i could be wrong, its been hours since then

[runic parrot]

maxed out chiron is great

[coarse steppe]

Do the bosses stay the same difficulty always? Unless you put on the options to make it more difficult?

[snow rivet]

demeter is god even on level one

yep

[silent jewel]

i've been browsing etsy looking for limited hades stuff and theres some wood engravings for sale with art taken straight from the game. would that be against the fan merch rules?

[sweet fable]

i just got curse of drowning (ares pos duo) on beowulf and it just doesnt work very well?

[runic parrot]

it doesnt

you'd be better off selling it

[sweet fable]

damn...the damage is pretty nice but im just standing around getting hit hahaha

yea probably should

[narrow hemlock]

yeah it is. using assets from any of the games is in violation of the policy. i think if you drew it yourself it may be fine? that needs some further clarification. but if you can layer official art over the work and it matches up, thats probably using assets and not a personal redraw

[silent jewel]

yep theyre direct copies of the og art. I'd be happy to dm the listings, just didnt want to out them here haha. looks like a portion of the purchase goes to charity?

[narrow hemlock]

[rich acorn]

Nooo I almost beat ||hades|| and I could have just waited for doom to activate and kill them but instead I rushed him and died

This is the second time I failed to ||beat hades on 9 heat when it was super close||

[desert mulch]

I love how Theseus just yelled “Now it is abundantly clear that you are beneath me Fiend!” At the same time as I knocked him flat on his stomach. He literally yelled that he was above Zagreus from beneath him.

[hearty bramble]

is there anywhere we can make suggestions for the server? :o

[granite plinth]

Is typhoons fury or breaking wave better?

[shrewd helm]

@rich acorn is 9 about where u are at rn

With your weapons?

I just cleared my first 6. I'm slowly getting there

Also. I was actually thinking when u forged my bond with thanatos that it was just a cliff hanger... but ... ||later on he was in Zags room and some stuff definitely happened after I chose to come to him||

[strange beacon]

how do i see the boon list on switch

it shows like

a space bar

but i’m on switch lol

nvm found it

[shrewd helm]

That's the minus

Nvm lol

I'm on switch too and thought the same at first.

[snow rivet]

switch is minus

[shrewd helm]

What's your guy's favorite aspect on Stygius

I'm maxed on zagreus but I'm thinking of maxing Nemesis next

[zinc elm]

arthur

[brazen lagoon]

nemesis

[hearty bramble]

yeah probably arthur for me too

[brazen lagoon]

arthur

[shrewd helm]

I almost had enough to max it. I got nemesis to lvl 4 though

[runic parrot]

poseidon

i love arty

[wind oar]

Hey

[shrewd helm]

Arthur was fun

Used it once only though

I finished the run atkeast

[wind oar]

Yes! All achievements!

[runic parrot]

good job

how many hours did it take you

[brazen lagoon]

im on 430 hours and havent even gotten that yet

[wind oar]

120 hours give or take

[runic parrot]

my longest achievement quest was maxing out all the keepsakes

[brazen lagoon]

thats the one i havent done yet

pain

[runic parrot]

it was a pain

[wind oar]

I did it today

That was my last one too

[shrewd helm]

I dont got achievements on switch but I might buy it on my pc too

[runic parrot]

grats dude, it took me a bit longer at around 130

[shrewd helm]

And do the cross save

[wind oar]

Yeah I have the game on both Switch and PC

[shrewd helm]

Grinding each keepsake!

I didnt know that was one lol

[wind oar]

It is

[shrewd helm]

I'm guessing u need to forge all bonds too

And all prophecies

[runic parrot]

nope

nope

[shrewd helm]

Oh

[wind oar]

Apparently only 5% of players have all companions

[runic parrot]

alternate reality where sgg adds a steam achievement to earn every title in the game

[green dune]

@wind oar no way lol

[wind oar]

Fact

Of PC players anyways

[green dune]

I don't feel like the elite, but I have all 5

[wind oar]

Steam players

[shrewd helm]

Yea actually the two guys I talked to who got me into this game I dont think stuck with it till the epilogue

So I'm betting they didnt have the companions and all that

[wind oar]

Hm

[runic parrot]

i got recommended by a friend who didnt break 20 hours

[shrewd helm]

Right

[runic parrot]

they sent me down a long arduous path

grueling 130 hours to get all those achieves

[shrewd helm]

That's about how long it took me in enter the gungeon

To get all those achievements

[runic parrot]

i have like 40 hours in gungeon but still havent gotten a third of it

[shrewd helm]

I think that's good when u can get that much out of a game like this

[runic parrot]

this game is pretty generous with its achievements

[brazen lagoon]

ive been on a dead cells binge and i wanna get all the ahcievements but i feel like that would be torture

[shrewd helm]

Dead cells I played at a rough part of my life too so I only have bad memories tied to it lol. I doubt I'll pick it up again. Got to boss cell 3 and felt I had to play so carefully

[runic parrot]

same hahahah. i thought i was gonna hate this game because i hated dead cells

[brazen lagoon]

i completed BC1 like yesterday lol

[runic parrot]

it turned out to be one of my most played games on steam

[brazen lagoon]

i am scared of BC2

[rough eagle]

Took a whopping 72 tries, but I finally did it.

[runic parrot]

woohoo!

nothing like beating it for the first time

[rough eagle]

Thanks for the nectar, please, enjoy this wrinkled Starbucks receipt.

[runic parrot]

ah, my first keepsake

i'll cherish it

[rough eagle]

I was madly degenerate too, healing sword, fast attacks, and all the revenge effects I could find. Hitting me was a regrettable experience XD

[shrewd helm]

So you gotta keep making clears

[rough eagle]

I'll try to make a more strategic one for my next choice.

[runic parrot]

you should clear with dashing only

it's. painful

[rough eagle]

:0 I was just going to try the shield or a blade rift build, that might be a little past my mediocre skills atm.

[ornate bear]

tidal dash only is pretty fun, especially in Styx - you just play pinball with all the enemies

[snow rivet]

blade rift is good, but not for the faint of heart

[vernal oasis]

i think i just discovered my favorite build i just beatet hades again

2 times

[snow rivet]

blade dash is crazy tho

[vernal oasis]

i love the deflect skills

specially for dash

[shrewd helm]

I usually hope for that dash lol

I like Artemis' dash as well

Dash strikes have gotten me through most of my clears or builds around dash striking

[grand crystal]

yea athena dash is one of the best dashes

[warped iron]

but

artemis dash

[vernal oasis]

yea its awesome

i have no idea what dash that is

[warped iron]

increased dash strike damage

😩

I exclusively dash strike with the bow, so it's basically a damage buff

[vernal oasis]

i gotta try that at some point

[calm eagle]

I'm having withdrawal symptoms from playing Hades last night. I need it b a c k

Symptoms include: Thinking about floating in river styx

[vernal oasis]

i have been dreaming about hades the past 3 days

for real

[warped iron]

but do you ever just beat hades in 8:17

[calm eagle]

NO HOW THE HELL

[warped iron]

speed

[green dune]

I beat it in 38 minutes

[warped iron]

that's my current PB

[vernal oasis]

speed is one of the keys to win in this game for me at least

[warped iron]

I've done mostly everything so i've just been

speed

[vernal oasis]

i wish hades had multiplayer it will be cool with a coop with shared life

[frosty vector]

Random question, is Supergiant doing a poster for the Hades world map? I'd love to have that hung on my wall.

[vernal oasis]

that will be so cool

and let me pay with cryptocurrencies please ❤️

i will love to be able to pay with vergecurrency tbh

[rare vigil]

i just got the WORST luck

of course the last chamber i go down has the satyr sack :,)

and i’m using the timed heat

[vernal oasis]

do those heat things first reset when you beat hades , so for exampel if i do the 7 minutes timer , will that first disapere again after i beat hades ,

[grand crystal]

me too but i prefer athena for those deflect frames

lets me dash attack safely and absolutely ruin witches

[vernal oasis]

i love seing these purple things fly back

[warped iron]

but for speed

[vernal oasis]

i play them as a mini game in the game , done that since i discovered athena

[warped iron]

athena dash is bad unless you're running ME

[grand crystal]

i- i like doing 400 damage to charon for free tho

[vernal oasis]

depends on play style i believe and reactions

[grand crystal]

honestly my dash choices boil down to artemis, athena, aphro, and zeus if im out of options

[warped iron]

but you don't even fight charon if you're speed

[vernal oasis]

im not a fan of the zeuz dash yet , but im sure i need to find the right combination to make that fit me

[grand crystal]

but like that 20% when doing cf2

very nice

and also its funny when you can beat him in 30 seconds

[warped iron]

again, no cf2

i don't play with that

🙂

[vernal oasis]

what is cf2

[warped iron]

check the pins in #h1-high-heat-strategies

[grand crystal]

convenience fee

[warped iron]

^

[vernal oasis]

i have no idea what that means 😄

[runic parrot]

zeus dash is pretty powerful once you have the t2 and legendary

i wouldnt aim for it though

i much prefer either pos or athena

[hearty bramble]

yea unlike some of the better dashes, it needs to be stacked with other boons to start getting good

[runic parrot]

its one of my choices when doing a dash-only run

but poseidon dash is just much better early on

wall slamming in tartarus is fun

[vernal oasis]

@hearty bramble yea im still fairly new to it so i can't remember to combos i got when i beatet it , but i remember i was very lucky in some of them

sry bot

[undone moat]

is there any working mod for the game yet beside the one for seeding

[snow rivet]

does anyone use the rail

i need some pointers on it

i always get swarmed

[warped iron]

@undone moat yeah, there are working mods besides that one

visit the modding discord, invite is pinned in #self-promotion

[undone moat]

okay I was thinking that one was for the modders only

thanks!!

[warped iron]

I happen to be the author of one of said mods

🙂

[grand crystal]

i use it a tiny bit but make sure you use your special a lot, its an amazing source of damage and zeus is a great god to pair the base attack with

[snow rivet]

ok

[grand crystal]

and once you get eris rail you have one of the fastest weapons in the game

[snow rivet]

any good daedalus enchant

i have eris

[grand crystal]

ah, something like triple bomb is really good

so is cluster bomb

[snow rivet]

i usualy use demeter fists with merciful end

[grand crystal]

and delta rail is always nice

[undone moat]

rocket launcher is great too

[grand crystal]

ah i generally use demeter with curse of longing

[snow rivet]

ok

merciful end is realy fast with divine dash and curse of pain

[grand crystal]

i tend to go aphro special and ares attack and go for dire misfortune too or zeus attack if im feeling it

and then like explosive upper/kinetic launcher

i might try out talos tho

[snow rivet]

talos is ok

it sounds ok, at least

i haven't used it much

only on skelly

[grand crystal]

yea ive heard it pairs well with heavy knuckle

and i think its a global damage buff

so its viable even more with basic fist things

[frosty vector]

So there's obvious interest in a Hades world poster/tapestry, how do we get their attention to suggest it?

[grand crystal]

i mean you could always @ but like, that isnt the most nice option

so idk

[frosty vector]

Yeah, trying not to annoy people.

[grand crystal]

i mean you could always ask a mod whta the best way to would be

i know sgg has an email or a site you go to but idk the specifics

[wild solar]

Aphrodite just outright refuses to give me Blown Kiss, no matter how many damn times I get Crush Shot

I even saved up 1000 darkness so I could alter her offered boons to try for it and nope!

😩

This is bloody frustrating

Is there something I'm like missing?

I've tried at least 20-30 times by now

Using the Eternal Rose

[grand crystal]

oh yea it just never shows up

i only got it after several runs of it

very dumb

you just have to get lucky

[wild solar]

So I have to essentially farm for it

[grand crystal]

yep

[wild solar]

😩
At least I know it's not something I'm doing wrong

[dark path]

Yeah it took me 4 runs I think, with actively trying for it

3 runs had rose the entire time just in case

[snow rivet]

what is blown kiss again

[rapid forum]

+something% to undamaged foes for aphro cast

longer range

[runic parrot]

blown kiss is essential if youre running a poseidon sword crush shot build

[snow rivet]

i never use cast

only sometimes

[runic parrot]

otherwise you'll die to em2 lernie

[rapid forum]

hera bow says hi

[runic parrot]

poseidon sword says hey

[grand crystal]

bruh i struggle to use hera aphro cast

i just cant time it right to where the cast hits

i just do hunting blades/scintillating tho :3

[stable glen]

let's go hades is going on sale

gonna buy it then

[rapid forum]

gud

[rapid forum]

aphro cast hits at the end tho

[grand crystal]

but it didnt when i tried it ;w;

it kept going behind them

[dark path]

I just got a wretched broker offer of 2 titan blood for 1 ambrosia

[rapid forum]

that's... not how it's supposed to work

[dark path]

The cost for 1 ambrosia is 1 titan blood

[wind oar]

Why would you pay 2 titan blood for an ambrosia

[snow rivet]

take it man

[wind oar]

What no

Don't

[rapid forum]

don't

[dark path]

It's a SCAM

I was thinking wretched broker was a misnomer

[grand crystal]

DO IT

PARTICIPATE IN STONKS

[dark path]

But that trade has got me thinking different

[snow rivet]

i thought it was buying 2 titan blood for one ambrosia

[wind oar]

Titan blood is far too valuable to throw away like that

[grand crystal]

but then you put that 1 ambro into a blood

and so you even out

got 1 of both

[wind oar]

What

No, you lose stuff

[grand crystal]

:3 i cant do math

-1 blood

why not

[wind oar]

Yeah

[grand crystal]

its funny

[wind oar]

Not stonks

[rapid forum]

not stonks at all

[snow rivet]

you do kinda get 2 titan blood per run

[wind oar]

You can get 3

[snow rivet]

just turn up the heat and it easy

[wind oar]

If you happen to get a fish in the last chamber

That's an extra titan blood

[snow rivet]

tru do

[sharp fossil]

depends how good at fishing you are

[snow rivet]

you mean in the hades fight chamber

[wind oar]

Yeah

It's a titan blood either way

[rapid forum]

bribe uncle fish for the fish

[wind oar]

Doesn't need to be a perfect catch

[snow rivet]

the fishing is so annoying in this game

[sharp fossil]

i swear it’s diamond/ambrosia/titan blood depending on fish rarity

[wind oar]

Just time it right lol

[sharp fossil]

i definitely don’t always get blood

[wind oar]

You get ambrosia for a legendary in Elysium I think

[sharp fossil]

ohhh

wait lemme wiki this

[wind oar]

Cause you normally get nectar for Elysium fish

Fish have different rewards based on what biome you're in

[sharp fossil]

a seamare is just 3 nectar according to the wiki

[wind oar]

Hm

[sharp fossil]

you gotta get a sturgeon for titan blood in greece

[wind oar]

Well I have gotten an Ambrosia from fishing

I can't go there anymore

So

[sharp fossil]

yeah ambrosia is the bass in greece

wym you can’t go to greece

[wind oar]

Erm

[sharp fossil]

the room where you fight hades still counts as greece

[wind oar]

Wait what

Oh

[sharp fossil]

if there’s a fish there, it’s a greece fish

[wind oar]

Hm

Alright then

[rapid forum]

idk why the cook wants them tbh

[wind oar]

Haha, thought for a sec I was spoiling something for you

[rapid forum]

they're pretty greasy

I see the door

[sharp fossil]

nah man i’ve been here a while lol

[brazen lagoon]

[wind oar]

Ah

[sharp fossil]

this is a spoilers channel anyway now

[wind oar]

Right

Chaos fish always give darkness

[rapid forum]

fitting

[wind oar]

Yeah

[runic parrot]

why doesnt zag just scoop up the water in chaos. isnt it made of darkness

literal infinite darkness

[frozen shore]

i like bow spamming

[wind oar]

You can't hold a void

[rapid forum]

why doesn't zag just drink the water in chaos?

[wind oar]

It's not water

[runic parrot]

you can if you try hard enough

[wind oar]

It's dark matter

[frozen shore]

with hera's aspect

[rapid forum]

okay, drink the darkness

[wind oar]

HAHA

[frozen shore]

drinks the darkness*

[wind oar]

That sounds so funny

[frozen shore]

there

[runic parrot]

is darkness even a substance

[wind oar]

Probably

[runic parrot]

how many flasks of darkness does he carry around

[wind oar]

He is the flask

[runic parrot]

maybe the reason charon is always at the end of regions is to pick up the darkness zag's gotten and its his job to bring it back to the house

[wind oar]

Darkness, made with 100% Chaos!

[dark path]

The bow draw pose is so goofy if you spam it

You don't even draw, you just crouch and rotate

[rapid forum]

rl bowmen do that right?

crouch and rotate?

[wind oar]

Nah darkness is just grape flavoured gushers

Damn now I want gushers

Haven't had them in years

Last time I had them was when I was a kid

Man, Orpheus has such a good singing voice

Darren Korb has a fascinating vocal range

[rapid forum]

lament of orpheus is soooo good

[wind oar]

Soo goooood

[hollow kettle]

it's rare

[wind oar]

I'm listening to the song right now

[hollow kettle]

can't get surface fish in the underworld normally

[wind oar]

He's playing it

[hollow kettle]

all the fish are dead

[rapid forum]

they're pretty greasy

[wind oar]

Poor Scuffer

[rapid forum]

unseen ones is more of my jam

for productivity

[runic parrot]

tfw zagreus will never bring a saltwater fish for the chef to cook

[wind oar]

Haha

I'd get distracted listening to The Unseen Ones while working

Too much... stuff

It's a banger

But it's a lot

[hollow kettle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS8SmfAcPkk

[wind oar]

Jules

Yess

I've wanted to see a cover

It's so many solos

And so fast paced

And epic

[hollow kettle]

he did a bunch of covers of the hades soundtrack

[wind oar]

Dad 3: Revenge of the Dad

[hollow kettle]

I just realized The Unseen Ones is kinda the Megalovania of Hades

[wind oar]

Yeah kinda

Less memey though

And not overused

[hollow kettle]

I mean the role it plays in the game and the overall tone of it

[wind oar]

Right

Yeah

I like The Unseen Ones better than Megalovania

I just like how hard it goes

[rapid forum]

I like The Unseen Ones so much, I hate it when I breeze through ||EM4||

[wind oar]

I've only breezed through it once

That was my only clear of ||EM4||

Which was yesterday I think

Or it might have been on Saturday

I dunno

[sharp fossil]

when you play so much hades you don’t know what day it is

can relate

[wind oar]

Exactly

I've raced through all the challenges so fast that I don't even know who I am anymore

[rapid forum]

the only thing that kept me from doing ||high heats|| is my right arm

[wind oar]

Oh dang

[rapid forum]

and also witcher 3

[wind oar]

Ha

[sharp fossil]

one handed heat pushing let’s go

[wind oar]

I did boonless and talentless in one day

That was 2 weeks ago probably

Maybe 1 week

Some time ago

Let's just go with that

[dark path]

The only thing preventing me from doing high heats|| is my inability to successfully play higher heats so far||

[rapid forum]

have you guys tried the diogenes challenge?

I have, and the game rub salts on the wound

[wind oar]

The only "high heat" I've done is 32

That's not terribly high

I mean sure it's challenging

But it's not a nightmare

[rapid forum]

same

but I find more success on 30 or 31

screw that one point

[wind oar]

Ha

Yeah

I've been trying to beat 34 heat

It's scary territory

That's when you get into the FO2s and the BP2s

Really scary

100% Hard Labor is a mistake

Asterius will demolish you

[craggy barn]

just use sd

smhsmh

[wind oar]

Haha

I d o

I use 100% LC

[craggy barn]

hope patty shows up and grab touch of styx

[wind oar]

Yeah

It's good

[craggy barn]

or maybe athena and grab a dd or two (preferably two)

[wind oar]

Preferably

2 extra DDs

Tasty

I love the big D

[craggy barn]

3 normal dds <<<< 2 normal dds + one sd

[wind oar]

Yes

Very yes

There's a reason < 3 is a heart

SD is better

Less than 3 = 👌

[runic parrot]

can you stack the two athena DDs?

i didnt know that

so you can technically get 3 dds and 1 sd huh

[rapid forum]

you gotta lose the SD first

then take athena boon

[runic parrot]

yeah but i thought if you already gotten one dd boon you couldnt get the additional one

like what happens if you run dd from the mirror

[sharp fossil]

you can get them both even with DDs

somewhat annoyingly you can get them both even if you haven’t lost any DDs/your SD

[runic parrot]

i thought you cant

oh you might be misreading me

i mean additional DDs

like, you know when you have 3 DDs, and you get the dd boon from athena, you dont suddenly have 4 DDs

i thought that would happen with the SD + 1 DD

[sharp fossil]

oh yeah that’s correct

[runic parrot]

but i guess not

[sharp fossil]

it’s because it fills the empty SD slot

[runic parrot]

that's pretty swag

[sharp fossil]

they don’t grant a new DD, they refill an empty slot

[craggy barn]

being able to lose your sd, then grab a dd from athena and magically your sd the next chamber is back is actually a bug that the devs left in anyway

probably something about making 32 heat less painful, what with depending only on sd and tos to heal not to mention constantly being at dangerously low health

[runic parrot]

ah, that's interesting

[calm eagle]

I hate king vermin with every inch of my being I want to d e l e t e it

[runic parrot]

honestly i'd take the rat over the satyr

their poison darts are zooming at FO2

[brazen lagoon]

Tiny vermin >>>>> satyr

[runic parrot]

and theres so many of them

[brazen lagoon]

I hate the big satyr so much I want it to dissappear forever

[calm eagle]

I HATE THE THING. I'm absolutely dying to hades now

[wind oar]

Satyrs are bad

[runic parrot]

even without FO they're so bad

[wind oar]

They're gross

[drifting crest]

Big satyr guy is annoying

[wind oar]

I hate the sounds they make

Hhhhhhhhoik

[drifting crest]

Like those guys who gargle and spit

[wind oar]

Yeah

[runic parrot]

just throwing up on you dont mind me

[wind oar]

Haha

Yeah

[calm eagle]

ITS MAKING ME DO ALL 5 TUNNELS THATS IT I JUST WANNA SEE HYPNOS

[runic parrot]

5 sack

[hollow kettle]

we all agree Styx is the worst level right

[brazen lagoon]

5 sack when I'm trying to speedrun

[runic parrot]

elysium sucks

[craggy barn]

5 sack when i'm on 32 heat

[calm eagle]

yep i hate it its where i loose all my death defiance

[runic parrot]

at least styx can technically be completed in under 8 chambers

[calm eagle]

u r g h

[hollow kettle]

styx has no npc rooms and thanatos never shows up though 😔

[brazen lagoon]

5 sack in general

I want a styx npc

[runic parrot]

a friendly satyr

[hollow kettle]

Pan

[runic parrot]

or a friendly rat

those are your only options

[brazen lagoon]

Pan would be nice

Just see the guy chillin in a random chamber

[craggy barn]

5 sack is actually pretty great for farming runs because you can run through all 5 tunnels then heal all your hp back from the fountain

[calm eagle]

I had no npc's this round at all, so no refill death defiance and no wells inside the chamber

[craggy barn]

or if you just wanna win i guess lmao

[hollow kettle]

Styx honestly feels like its meant to just suck as much of your health out of you as it can before the final boss

[calm eagle]

u r g h

[craggy barn]

except until you get the fountain

and all your hp is instantly refilled

[calm eagle]

I GOT DEFLECT DASH THING

oh thank god

[runic parrot]

except when im running with 400hp and i only have 2hp left

i think it would be hilarious if the fountain in styx was replaced with the poison cure and didnt heal you at all

[calm eagle]

here's to hoping I can beat hades without a death defiance

[calm eagle]

I would actually start crying

[runic parrot]

fun pranks to pull on your son

[runic parrot]

good luck, may the fates be with you

[calm eagle]

I gywefaiifeawe RAN OUT OF MONEY FOR KISS OF STYX

im 2 coins off

[hollow kettle]

I wish the mandragora pools healed you just a little bit

[craggy barn]

that's basically lc4

you mean mandrake??

[runic parrot]

overpowered

[calm eagle]

If I loose this round I'm never turning on heat

[runic parrot]

they're in every room

[hollow kettle]

I checked, that's waht they're called on the wiki

[brazen lagoon]

It's called a mandragora pool

[runic parrot]

what emotion does represent

ive been using it to describe two wildly different emotions

"this makes me ascend into a higher plane of existence" and "this sucks and i want to sleep instead of playing now"

[brazen lagoon]

Boring or bad

Zag spear

[calm eagle]

It's me floating in the river styx after I loose this fight

[runic parrot]

getting 5 sacked

[calm eagle]

THATS IT I LOST

i only have to beat him 3 more times

[craggy barn]

zag spear really depends on getting literally just explosive launcher to win

if you don't get it it's gonna suck

[calm eagle]

[runic parrot]

use poseidon sword

[calm eagle]

Yeah I think I might swap around the weapons

But i got terrible boons that whole run and bad luck

rip the streak

[drifting crest]

Me being bad at sword out of all weapons: hgghghhh

[runic parrot]

you dont even need to be good at sword attack patterns

just cast -> special -> cast -> special

that's what makes poseidon so great

[dark path]

when in doubt, splash

Is there a best weapon combo with dionysus?

It seems like hera+zeus and (any sword)+poseidon are fairly common

Does hangover not do enough damage to warrant it being a main boon build?

[hollow hawk]

lucy with dio attack absolutely slaps

you could also do a chiron dio special build

[waxen plume]

Aphro attack, dio special for chiron bow seems good

[runic parrot]

^

with low tolerance you can bump that dps up too

[dry wagon]

Poseidon is best uncle
Change my mind

[rapid forum]

If only he has revenge boons

[manic moat]

are revenge boons that good tho

[rapid forum]

For vengeful mood runs

Yes

[manic moat]

yea

I should do that sometime

[opaque radish]

Question. ||In Hades' bedroom once you reach a certain point you can upgrade your "badge" or whatever it is. Does that do anything beyond fluff? Yes or no is all I need.||

[manic moat]

only fluff I think

[opaque radish]

ty

cause ||I was about to spend a LOT lol||

[rapid forum]

Someone called me?

[craggy barn]

poseidon is the one god that makes total sense to have a revenge boon but he doesn't

[manic moat]

might have been too OP?

if attack get pushed back?

[craggy barn]

when what about tempest strike

or flourish

[manic moat]

?

[craggy barn]

poseidon's revenge boon would simply push enemies back upon taking damage

[manic moat]

yea that only

[vernal oasis]

Lol i can't sleep being laying in my bed for almost 4 hours trying to figurer out my next move in hades

[craggy barn]

so how is it possibly op

[manic moat]

simply push back or with some damage

ok not OP but like strong in the sense that it pushes away the enemies that attack you

[rapid forum]

Push back and prob minor damage

It's just wirh breaking wave

It'd be pretty OP

Just walking pinball

[craggy barn]

but then what about tempest strike/flourish

[hollow hawk]

thats how you know that youre playing the game lol

[vernal oasis]

@hollow hawk i really love that game its insane , its kinda first time in a looooong time i had that feeling , sometimes tells me i will end up having 2k hours in that game lol

athena

and all the dialoes

[rapid forum]

Well not saying they're crap, but they're at the bottom of the barrel for me

[willow crown]

hi hi

so i keep giving bouldy(sp?) nectar

am i wasting the nectar on it?

[rapid forum]

Giving ||bouldy|| a nectar will only affect that run

So unless you need it

Spend it anyway

[trail pendant]

Bouldy is the best