I think there is a limit tho
#h1-discussion
outer dew
copper canopy
I feel kind of bad for changing bows though, like I betrayed it.
Twin shot close range
Or twin shot perfect shot
outer dew
Yes but it still chunks down bosses
copper canopy
outer dew
Especially with arty on attack
I also tried a hangover build and it was good but I still like attack builds better
rip
crystal marten
||Arthur|| is the one hidden aspect without some kind of drawback, because it INCREASES health, and it's slowness can be countered with Hermes buffs.
copper canopy
Also special is nice for safely doing a but of damage from afar
copper canopy
Also it hits like a truck
crystal marten
and the special counters its slowness
copper canopy
Definitely my favorite sword
outer dew
I once got a pretty solid special spam build by accident on ||Arthur||
outer dew
I like hidden sword but ||Lucifer|| is just so much FUNN
copper canopy
I like hidden sword but ||Lucifer|| is just so much FUNN
I was curious if the special shot with divine flourish would act like a stationary deflecting shield.
and it did
outer dew
It does
copper canopy
It was amazing
outer dew
I figured that out yesterday and I just hid behind it in Meg
It just deflected the orbs right back to her
I was like jesus this is amazing
copper canopy
Right?!
outer dew
Have you tried rebinding the attack to trigger button for ||lucifer||?
copper canopy
No, why?
outer dew
You can continuously hold down attack and it ramps while still being able to dash around
the weapon became so much better after I did that
sand stump
for a second my heart jump as i thought we were having update annoucement
rich acorn
Yeah holy cow ||Excalibur|| is just absolutely busted
signal aspen
||Arthur plus artemis attack boon can deal a ton of damagee||
||i got a 2000 damage swing with that||
copper canopy
You can continuously hold down attack and it ramps while still being able to das...
I can still dash around doing that
copper canopy
||i got a 2000 damage swing with that||
MON DIEU
outer dew
Are you on controller or keyboard
copper canopy
Controller
outer dew
It feels weird if you have dash on the bottom button and attack on the left button
Your thumb is in a weird position if you want to attack while still dashing around on ||lcuy||
signal aspen
||yeah it deleted hades||
outer dew
*lucy
copper canopy
The main drawback to ||arthur|| is making sure you actually get said speed enhancement buff.
tacit ember
potato
copper canopy
Currently attempting a no mirror run, had some neat dialogue with Megaera
charred bronze
Reminds me my try to win on first run, if Is is hell
signal aspen
doesn't need to be fast when you have a 50% damage reduction buff, 400 health, and 3 death defiances
copper canopy
Isnāt it 40%?
signal aspen
plus athena
copper canopy
Ah okay
signal aspen
forgot to mention that
copper canopy
Is damage reduction multiplicative or additive?
tacit ember
i didnt have max level
soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
idk
multiplicative
if it just added the dmg reduction it would be super op
copper canopy
I love it but its slow attack doomed one of my failed ||H32|| strats of getting cursed blade with it.
copper canopy
||cursed blade and arthur dont mix well||
I learned that the hard way 
Still a fantastic weapon
manic bobcat
Greg is back to playing Hades. This means DLC on the way, right?
You heard it here first folks
signal aspen
yes
tacit ember
who is greg
signal aspen
one of the devs i think
tacit ember
ah i see
manic bobcat
Look at sidebar. He's the writer.
manic bobcat
During the development of the game he can be seen "playing Hades like 24/7"
manic bobcat
why is admin a bot
For privilege
copper canopy
By the way, my no boons run revealed something to me I never knew; poms of power give lots of money if used with no boons
tacit ember
kk
manic bobcat
Yeah
signal aspen
||does anyone have a guan yu build?||
signal aspen
||i want to escape with it, but i just dont like the weapon that much||
outer dew
And also if your comfortable put on pierced butterfly
Ive escaped once with it but havent really tried to after that
manic bobcat
Charged Skewer and Deadly Flourish
signal aspen
I'll try that out when i max it out
im not playing with a 60 percent health reduction
outer dew
Lmao i did it at 75 percent reduction bcs I didnt feel like using titan blood
Oop 65 percent
tacit ember
potato 2 electric boogalo
outer dew
I started out with 35 health and it was not fun
fleet narwhal
i won my ||gy|| run with lots of spin hammers
fleet narwhal
also i was playing really defensively so thats also probably a factor
outer dew
Yeah pierced butterfly forced me not to get hit
So I was fine for most of it
Heroes fight was the hardest part
meager steppe
I got to the surface with GY and a pretty sweet charged shot tempest flourish build. I was feeling really good. Then it was my tenth escape... still feel a little cheated.
Havenāt run it since.
meager steppe
Only one last hidden aspect to take to the surface.
signal aspen
zeus shield with athena special is really good when paired with ares
outer dew
Same i only have the shield one to get to the surface
lyric wharf
Anyone knows why some decorations cant be removed ? Like the fireplace in the lounge.
signal aspen
probably not a feature yet
lyric wharf
I hope it'll be changed, its nice being able to customize the house as you wish.
signal aspen
hopefully in the next update
meager steppe
Probably a mod available. Honestly not sure if I want them by to focus on that fir an update.
fallow jungle
Hey, alot of People say that the Bow with Aspect of Chiron is really strong, but holy i just dont do dmg. I pick Artemis for Special and even Special from chaos but my dmg is just too low
What im doing wrong?
I have like 30 Clears at this Point most with Shield and Gun
I want to make the Bow work
manic bobcat
What's your Chiron level?
Chiron level 4 or 5 is great. Below that is just underwhelming.
fallow jungle
4
copper canopy
ā100% Darkness-Freeā complete!~
fallow jungle
The Thing is till the Elysium Boss its fine then my Dmg goes downhill and the Fight with Hades just take a eternity
copper canopy
No additional ||Hades|| dialogue, but Megaera has both pre-battle dialogue and dialogue in the lounge later.
turbid talon
I want dlc(
copper canopy
(HUGE SPOILERS)||Also just had the sweet, intimate moment with Thanatos in Zagreusā room, which is great||
signal aspen
meg or than
turbid talon
I hope the time will come
signal aspen
which one better
fallow jungle
Meg she does so much dmg
copper canopy
||I think thatās all three of their routes done?||
signal aspen
than does more though
copper canopy
But his delay means the enemy could get away
copper canopy
||than's companion does i think like 7k damage after a long delay||
3500
||Megās|| is 2500 but instant
spice hearth
the noclip doc of the Hades dev process is amazing
signal aspen
damn why did i see 7000
spice hearth
Early Access Hades is different
copper canopy
damn why did i see 7000
Because your brain doubled it
copper canopy
Early Access Hades is *different*
Was watching a playthrough of the game recorded around this time last year, and the differences are rather jarring in places, even if theyāre minor
Like Nyx and Charon were cloaked figures because their art wasnāt done or something
Speaking of early access, Iāve been curious about something.
Not sure if anyone knows the answer but
||I feel like originally Megaera and Thanatos were the only ones with romance routes, and Dusa was added later by popular demand after so many players fell in love with her(myself included). Does anyone know if this is the case?||
pliant ridge
Yo, Lap. After talking about ||Hades' 3rd form|| the other day, I got to it 3 times and lost each one. Even with a super OP build, haha.
First attempt was a terrible run with no good boons. I was surprised I got past Elysium
copper canopy
Yo, Lap. After talking about ||Hades' 3rd form|| the other day, I got to it 3 ti...
Sorry to hear, Iāve gotten to it twice(once on ||H32||) and failed both times.
Having just completed both a no boon run and a no mirror run, I should finally get around to beating it.
Also I completed a no boon run and no mirror run(two separate runs)
pliant ridge
I involuntarily did a no mirror run because I traded in all my darkness for ||Chaos' theme||
copper canopy
I involuntarily did a no mirror run because I traded in all my darkness for ||Ch...
Learn to prioritize. 
pliant ridge
Oh, I did. I wanted that unlocked, haha
copper canopy
But wait you donāt get that option until muuuuch later, so you mustāve used some on the mirror at least
Heck you donāt even know it exists initially
pliant ridge
If I had known what it would cost, I would have held off on ||rank upgrades||
Yeah, I cashed in my mirror darkness to buy it
pliant ridge
copper canopy
pliant ridge
Hey, after losing to ||EM4 Hades|| 3 times in a row, I needed something to cheer me up
copper canopy
Iām not entirely sure what ||themes|| even are. I thought theyād change the ||UI|| but I saw no difference.
pliant ridge
It changes some of the ||UI|| like the left boon bar and the ||escape report|| screen
copper canopy
Hey, after losing to ||EM4 Hades|| 3 times in a row, I needed something to cheer...
So you only did this recently?
(Sigh)
Well, good luck getting that darkness back I guess.
copper canopy
It changes some of the ||UI|| like the left boon bar and the ||escape report|| s...
Ah okay thanks
pliant ridge
Yeah. I had wasted a ton of darkness on ||rank upgrades||, so I didn't have tons of extra. Not too hard filling the mirror again, since I already wasn't using the bottom three mirror skills from the ||Pact||
spice hearth
you did what???
pliant ridge
I pet Cerbie all the time. Then my dog gets jealous, and I pet her
copper canopy
Or buy decorations, itās fun decorating and Hadesā reaction to the changes is one of the funniest parts of the game.
(In my opinion)
pliant ridge
Well, that would cost gems, not darkness. I've been working on that, as well.
copper canopy
āPoets shall doubtless sing of your rug.ā
pliant ridge
I had initially put all my gems into keys, so I could get nectar and blood
Started decorating after the credits, basically
copper canopy
If ||Hades isnāt there||, I wait until ||he is|| to buy things because I love the dialogue that much.
pliant ridge
Same here
copper canopy
Started decorating after the credits, basically
Oh definitely, focus on trading for stuff at the start.
I did the same.
pliant ridge
Yeah. I ||maxed hearts|| and ||leveled the weapons|| I wanted to. Will level the rest after some decorating.
Finally saved enough gems for that ||nice new throne||
copper canopy
I just focused on maxing ||1 and 4|| for all weapons, and I actually got enough ||nectar/ambrosia|| naturally through playing.
pliant ridge
I just wasn't finding much nectar, so I bought a lot
copper canopy
Fishing helps a great deal.
pliant ridge
Yeah, I get a surplus of the stuff, now. Just when I needed them for hearts, it wasn't happening
copper canopy
Oh, I forgot to ask, now that youāve seen it yourself, what did you think of ||the song for phase three and the transition into it?||
pliant ridge
I don't use this lingo much, so you know I mean it when I say it absolutely shreds. I was so pumped.
sterile flicker
pliant ridge
I wish I had recorded the first run after our discussion about it. I was so underpowered, it took me like 10 minutes to get past ||Hades' first two phases||
Was the saddest thing, but kinda impressive I stayed alive with that build
Well, at least for as long as I did
copper canopy
Well I should go attempt to beat it again, after the no boon and no mirror runs it shouldnāt be too bad... ||okay itāll still be difficult but whatever||
Bye for now~
thin lynx
Hello, everyone! I have a question about a certain unexpected boss fight. If you don't know what this is about and want to find out by yourself (which I most definitely recommend), avoid the spoilers below.
||So I beat Charon for the first time with my trusty bow, and since then I never saw the money bag to initiate the fight again. Does anybody know if there's something preventing it from showing up for the same weapon I already defeated him with? I want to defeat him twice to fulfill a fated prophecy, but I've been using only the bow in my last few runs, to raise heat and have a weapon I'm good with in case he does show up. Should I change weapons or is it just bad luck?||
Thanks in advance!
austere jacinth
Sounds like bad luck tbh. It can happen.
old tundra
ps it cant be the || shop before each stage boss fight, it has to be mid way for it to pop up ||
so probably is bad luck
karmic trellis
is there a way to dodge mini bosses, i don't enjoy the gorgon miniboss in asphodel, i don't like the freeze, it slows the pace. is there a way to completely dodge them?
desert meadow
If you happen to get a room with more then one exit, you might have only one of them being a miniboss. Look for the skull symbol on the room reward, that tells you it's a miniboss or a harder room. (Harder rooms are just the skull, minibosses have a red arrow)
karmic trellis
okay i knew about the skulls but i thought it was a set thing. thanks! 
narrow bronze
man whatever's under the piece of fabric in the training room better be worth it there's a heat threshold of 8..
crystal marten
man whatever's under the piece of fabric in the training room better be worth it...
It's amazing
unborn remnant
||Chibi Hades acquired||
formal epoch
any use for keys after i finish the mirror or should i just fetch myself nectar for the ||epilogue||?
somber star
Not really anything of any worth, except the 15 keys for a titan blood
tepid plover
theres a theme but thats cosmetics
rich acorn
||What are the different buffs that come with benefits package?||
tepid plover
theres a list somewhere
rich acorn
Yeah just found one
cloud tusk
Question: on Switch, is it a known bug that Poseidon's Rip Current boon won't show up?
I've done about 20 runs trying to get it, to no avail.
somber star
I don't think it's a bug
Pretty sure it's just rng
It took me a while to get dire misfortune
crystal marten
is that Legendary?
somber star
No, Poseidons legendary is big catch
tepid plover
he has 2 legendaries
cloud tusk
Poseidon has 2 legendaries.
somber star
Oh nvm
cloud tusk
Rip Current is the Call buff.
somber star
Still pretty sure it's just rng
tepid plover
yep
cloud tusk
Are Call buff boons just rarer?
tepid plover
not really
somber star
Not necessarily, just rng
cloud tusk
That's like 80 boons found with rerolls with no luck.
somber star
Although, you can't get them without having the call from x god
cloud tusk
Right. I make sure to get the call at the start of the run.
somber star
Well, gl
cloud tusk
Thanks y'all. š
light siren
Can someone explain Fated Persuasion to me, specifically why you would ever under any circumstances choose it over Fated Authority?
somber star
Uh
Because it's better to reroll from the god whether wanted or not and get a boon you want than get a god you want and get a bad boon
light siren
is it though?
somber star
In my opinion yes
light siren
can you expand on that? I feel like I might be missing something.
somber star
And I would rather not get in an argument, we can each have our own opinions
Sure
I also like to have it for rerolling well of charons if I'm in need of a kiss of styx
light siren
the thing I find confusing is that you only get 4 of them, and the number required increases if you try to do it more than once
somber star
My point being, if you like aphrodite, but the room is poseidon and you don't like him, two things could happen
FA: You reroll it into maybe aphrodite
FP: You reroll poseidons boons and you might get something really good
somber star
the thing I find confusing is that you only get 4 of them, and the number requir...
Some people don't like it, some people do
It's personal preference, no right or wrong
light siren
Yea but that's what I mean, I trust the game devs to believe that to an advanced player the two boons are roughly equivalent in utility
and the handicap on persuasion is so drastically severe that I feel like I'm fundamentally misunderstanding something really important
somber star
Exactly, they are roughly equivalent in utility
dull tangle
unpopular opinion: ||theseus is worse than hades||
somber star
So I take persuasion because I don't care which god it's from if I get a good boon
somber star
and the handicap on persuasion is so drastically severe that I feel like I'm fun...
Your not meant to reroll twice
tepid plover
unpopular opinion: ||theseus is worse than hades||
youre implying hades is bad
how dare you compare him to that monster
karmic laurel
Which boons do I go for with the adamant rail
If I want to maximise the main weapon
not the special
Which Gods do I focus?
tepid plover
which aspect
livid otter
Asterius is the real homie
tepid plover
Asterius is the real homie
the fact that he ||gives you a waking phrase|| makes him even more homie
livid otter
The one where I stand in the special
That one is good if you can get some daedelus upgrades
dull tangle
ugh i got the worst build possible
and i got the really bad daedelus upgrades
i was bound to die instantly
livid otter
Artemis and Dionysius helped me a lot
karmic laurel
Artemis for the special
or the main weapon
When I use the rail I usually just spam the special with artemis
And hope for hammer upgrades
livid otter
Not sure, I need to experiment more
I got cluster bombs and Dio's special upgrade
So I would toss them out constantly
somber star
Wow I got two duo boons in one run
somber star
Rip
rich acorn
Almost died in tartarus, lost 2 defiances to ||Charon||, got the sack in the 4th tunnel, but then clutched up on the final boss
Calculated risk and spitting headache are amazing duo boons
rich acorn
Ooooh
that sounds super good
The only time I got flurry slash was on a timed run and I just started tearing through enemies
somber star
Even better I have nemesis aspect
Hope I can win with sword for the first time
Ay I did it
rich acorn
Got cursed slash too im feeling daring
somber star
Cursed slash scares me
rich acorn
||Messed up in erebus cause I had the caustic chaos churse||
somber star
||I just unlocked the arthur aspect, is it worth spending 5 titan blood on||
Do rugs count towards the dusa quest
tepid plover
I got unlucky and artemis wasn't in the pool
Thats why you use that cute arrowhead she gave you
brave robin
Anyone ever notice the Pyre Easter Egg in Hades? I just saw it today.
tepid plover
Which
brave robin
On Zag's Shelf by the harp he's got the little green orb that Sandra is in
Or at least it has the symbol of the Scribes on it
balmy valley
Hey guys, trying some ||lucifer|| build, just the laser. I already tried zeus and liked, any others you suggest?
brave robin
I'd post a screenshot but the resolution is awful so it's impossible to see
tepid plover
I'd check it out later
rich acorn
||Artemis is good cause it constantly hits and a crit is almost guaranteed when you use all the cells||
balmy valley
Thanks Jake, aside from Artemis on attach, what else you think is good to get for the laser?
rich acorn
I've only used it the one time but perhaps poseidon's knockback will keep them from advancing on you?
somber star
||Just got Rib||
tepid plover
balmy valley
Thanks š will give a shot
somber star
Glad to see ambrosia has a use besides being pumped into titan blood
brisk trail
greetings from demark, just downloaded hades on laptop. looking forward to play but ps4 controller wont work. it works on other steam games. Any ideas. cheers!
rich acorn
Got cursed slash too im feeling daring
In hindsight, It probably wasn't a good idea to get this, an enchantemt that requires you to hit enemies several times; while pared with a crit build, which kills foes in far less hits.
runic parrot
greetings from demark, just downloaded hades on laptop. looking forward to pla...
try #h1-tech-support
brisk trail
thanks. electro
trail plover
Okay this is gonna seem super random... because it is.
But a lot of Hade's dialogue matches the same tempo as Katy Perry's "Hot + Cold"
My boyfriend and I discovered this on accident when we bought the game a few weeks ago. It is a trip.
(I shouldn't say the same tempo. But the pacing of the dialogue fits really well with that song. XD)
copper canopy
Yes or no, no other details to avoid spoilers; ||does unlocking Aphroditeās sixth heart involve getting close to the other gods?||
gilded leaf
Yes or no, no other details to avoid spoilers; ||does unlocking Aphroditeās sixt...
no
copper canopy
Okay thank you
rich acorn
Holy crap I thought I was don for ||Theseus' rockets deal insane damage|| But I just got 2 kiss of styx back
tepid plover
Glad to see ambrosia has a use besides being pumped into titan blood
Thats not even supposed its main use tho š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
"Besides"
Lmfao
I love this server
rich acorn
RUN SAVED POGU
hearty bramble
anyone else sing lament of orpheus/good riddance in th ecar
meager steppe
Yeah. Iām often shopping for DD in Styx
I try to have 200 obols whenever Iām in the atrium
hazy ivy
I often have the unseen ones stuck in my head
meager steppe
Iāve also been known to go through another door after I get a sack because Iām still looking for the well.
Need it less and less, but still go for it. Have had a few times that I came out in worse shape.
celest saddle
any tips on getting perfect catches with the fishing rod? it feels near impossible
runic parrot
close your eyes, listen to the ding
celest saddle
i think thats what i used to do when fishing in animal crossing, dont know why i didnt think of that
runic parrot
visual cues may help in like tartarus but once you get to elysium it gets kinda hard to see in some spots
audio cues are always consistent
but they may be blocked by music or ambience
tepid plover
Comes with practice
runic parrot
when they are, i usually keep my eyes open but keep more attention to the sound
tepid plover
I remember I couldn't do it before
Now is all I get
Keep in mind it can only do the fake bobs 3 times
celest saddle
but i want it NOW!!!!!!!1! >:( /s
celest saddle
:(((((((((((
runic parrot
i still havent gotten the legendary fish in ||chaos||
tepid plover
Cause then you get fooled
runic parrot
the ambience there is so loud
celest saddle
yeah i get it ill eventually get the phish
celest saddle
the ambience there is so loud
cant you turn that down in settings?
runic parrot
can you?
i dont mess with individual audio settings lmao i dont actually know
sound design and music in this game are very well made
celest saddle
i think ambient is tied to sfx so nvm
tepid plover
Also remember, even in perfect catches you might not get the legendary
celest saddle
yeah i know its 50/50
runic parrot
it feels like 1/50, i keep getting the non legendaries
grand shale
heres something interesting: if you compete with than and you end up in a tie, he still gives you the centaur heart
tepid plover
heres something interesting: if you compete with than and you end up in a tie, h...
Yes, is the same or more
feral mountain
I was going for my 25th consecutive escape when I finally tried the hidden boss. Holy crap he destroyed me lol.
craggy barn
i should try out speedrunning the game and going for like sub 10 or something, i just realized the way i use bow is really sloppy
unborn remnant
I have killed theseus with ||bouldy||
unborn remnant
It was very funny
shrewd helm
I'm gonna work on some more of that stuff tonight. I blew all my titan blood in hopes to trigger the dialogue for the other aspects
I dont have enough in my gloves but hopefully the others unlock soon
craggy barn
i should have blew my titan blood on hidden sword instead of hera lol
turns out hera is the one cast build weapon i don't like
rich acorn
Never use explosive shot with ||aspect of Rama|| I implore you
craggy barn
hidden bow can't even get explosive shot
rich acorn
It can, and it takes eons to charge
rich acorn
Hermes attack speed up is vital
somber star
Hermes attack speed is good any time
What boss is ||rib|| best against, I only have one use
craggy barn
does swift strike actually make bow charge any faster or is it just the arrow
winter harbor
Yes, but it feels nicer when it makes something fast very fast
supposedly swift strike doesn't affect dash-strikes
unborn remnant
I have also killed hades with ||bouldy||
craggy barn
What boss is ||rib|| best against, I only have one use
it works best in situations where you might be dealing with a bunch of dangerous enemies and can't deal with them
unborn remnant
somber star
||So hades fight maybe||
rich acorn
||Alright, a properly executed power shot does do 700+ damage so...||
winter harbor
I heard it was glitched for a while and didn't work properly but it should work properly now
somber star
Yeah it's pretty good
brisk trail
umm, why is it so hard to get the hidden aspect of the shield
ive spent more than 5 blood on aegis been talking to chaos atleast 4-5 times, is it rng?
winter harbor
Did you already get other hidden aspects?
tepid plover
It is rng
brisk trail
guess ill keep trying
tepid plover
Are they giving you recycled lines, or actual dialogue
digital python
somehow I'm only just now realized the reason eurydice's hair is Like That is cuz she's a nymph š¤¦
topaz yew
so
tepid plover
Hi Draven
topaz yew
I maxed out with our good old Meg
||now how do i get that interaction||
lmfao
also ||for the lyre how many runs average before i learn it||
and hi
tepid plover
||now how do i get that interaction||
Rng
topaz yew
rip
runic parrot
also ||for the lyre how many runs average before i learn it||
just keep strumming
takes a while
took me about 40 hours and strumming after every rrun to get it
topaz yew
jesus
tepid plover
Just do it like 3 or 4 times between runs
topaz yew
i just finally unlocked teh hidden rail i feel blessed
tepid plover
Should cut down that time
topaz yew
i have all hidden
tepid plover
Noice
topaz yew
and ive just been sitting there pressing it for 5 minutes straight
runic parrot
yeah if you sit down and strum it for like 5 minutes inbetween runs or like, every 5 runs, you'll cut down the time definitely
topaz yew
oh really thank the lord
runic parrot
yeah it doesnt matter how many runs you do
it matters how much you practice
which also goes for real life music instruments
craggy barn
||32 heat||, going well so far
austere wagon
I need the last heart if im not wrong
But idk how to unlock it
I cant gift them anymore
tepid plover
First, thats not their last hearts
Thats their favor
And each character have their own way
It's like a mini quest
Most of them are mostly just talk a lot to them
Others require you to do something
austere wagon
Is there a guide on that?
pulsar bough
Anyone find it weird that malphon is the only weapon that has a different aspect on the picture for the hammers
It has Demeter fists on some of them
tepid plover
Dm me
tepid plover
In some of them yeah
Some are zagreus
Nice observation
It just shocked me
Why is zag so small
crystal marten
to attack ankles better
crystal marten
I also think it's because he's a young god
tepid plover
Still
crystal marten
and designed for a game where you're supposed to be fast and nimble
pulsar timber
is there any news on new content? Or if there is going to be new content at all?
tepid plover
is there any news on new content? Or if there is going to be new content at all?
Nope
Tba
crystal marten
I imagine we'll know when we know
crystal marten
it's not like there's a dearth of content as is
lyric wharf
Yeah the game has more than enough contents but I'd still love more, but I'll still be happy if it doesn't get anymore contents.
lyric wharf
Lol.
tepid plover
Ill have to go with the painful way 
crystal marten
metal guitar plays
lyric wharf
*metal guitar plays*
That's one of the best part of the game, which is 90% of the time.
tepid plover
Orpheus play careless whisper
lyric wharf
I love the hidden sword so much.
manic moat
yea same
lyric wharf
Yeah not only its a really beautiful weapon but also the damage, I didn't mind it being slow because of the damage.
manic moat
what would you guys want from new weapons in the game
craggy barn
labrys?
manic moat
I would think thanatos' scythe, meg's whip would make for good new weapons
also maybe another heavy weapon, like a hammer
craggy barn
they probably would mind though
tepid plover
what would you guys want from new weapons in the game
I want more boons and gods, not weapons
craggy barn
i mean there's already well over enough variety in weapons
more gods and boons would be better
maybe new aspects?
tepid plover
I think more gods is where is at
Maybe new hammers
But gods
Did I mention new gods?
I wouldnt even be mad if they had no story
I just want vatiety
lyric wharf
I've heard some people wanting an Olympus DLC, which made me think about having boons from the underworld gods.
craggy barn
I've heard some people wanting an Olympus DLC, which made me think about having ...
that's like, the main reason we want olympus
i want thanatos boons
lyric wharf
That'd be really interesting.
lyric wharf
That would mean more curses and effects.
tepid plover
Wot
tepid plover
Literally all the isaac expansions, have been ports from mods
craggy barn
screw the lore
somber star
How would that effect the story though
lyric wharf
I just noticed that the hidden sword ||aura prevents traps.||
craggy barn
just give zagreus a billion dds and he's set for olympus
tepid plover
I just noticed that the hidden sword ||aura prevents traps.||
Fun fact, it even nullifies the lava
lyric wharf
That's amazing.
somber star
That makes me want it even more
lyric wharf
How would that effect the story though
Like you go to Olympus to do trials from the gods where they would train you to be better.
tepid plover
Does it tho
somber star
Like you go to Olympus to do trials from the gods where they would train you to ...
That would be cool
tepid plover
I think is edgy
topaz yew
||Aspect of Lucifer||
somber star
Also a boss rush would be cool
topaz yew
Thats what my name means in latin
tepid plover
You can do that with mods
somber star
I currently have delta chamber
tepid plover
Yeah like the 4 gods
somber star
I have boons from hermes, poseidon, zeus, and aphro
lyric wharf
Still think an olympus hubworld would be pretty cool
Yes that too.
tepid plover
Hes like a talkative hammer
somber star
Oh and ares
cluster bomb and seeking fire both seem good
I just don't know which is better
craggy barn
Eris, mainly focused on casts atm since I have CoD and Sea storm
get cluster bomb then
somber star
Ok
manic moat
yo what about if like the titans come back from the dead and zagreus is employed to put them back and he gets boons and buffs from literally everyone I mean it's like hell with the greek mythology story we're just out here making a game and killing some gods
lyric wharf
yo what about if like the titans come back from the dead and zagreus is employed...
That sounds interesting.
hearty bramble
i feel like all the gods wouldn't put tiny zagreus in charge of fighting the titans lol
hearty bramble
i want a nyx summon š³š³
manic moat
but like maybe they're some sort of remains of the titans or weaker version and since they're technically dead someone from the underworld would have to take care of them and guess who is the only one from the underworld who can go to the surface
tepid plover
i want a nyx summon š³š³
lyric wharf
but like maybe they're some sort of remains of the titans or weaker version and ...
I was actually thinking about the fact that the titans are back and stronger than ever and the Olympus gods arent as strong as they used to be.
manic moat
ooh that could work too
tepid plover
And zagreus is?
lyric wharf
Or just they're still as strong as before but the titans are way better.
manic moat
zagreus can be imbued with the power of all the gods combined
hearty bramble
I was actually thinking about the fact that the titans are back and stronger tha...
hmm maybe like zag collects too much titan blood in one place causing the titans to reform š
manic moat
yo
craggy barn
there's only 6 of the infernal arms and seeing as how zagreus is perfectly capable of handling all of them what would they do about that
lyric wharf
Well with the trial of the gods you can assume that Zagreus is just better than every Olympus gods.
lyric wharf
hmm maybe like zag collects too much titan blood in one place causing the titans...
Lol.
somber star
Why does theseus have to so rude to my bro asterius
tepid plover
Why does theseus have to talk, id love to listen to asterius every time
somber star
Same
lyric wharf
Why does theseus have to so rude to my bro asterius
I wish for ||Achilles to replace Theseus, Zagreus and Patroclus talks about it at some point.||
tepid plover
I definitely don't want to fight achilles lol
I'm ok beating the crap out of theseus
Feels good
Just wish he didn't talk
craggy barn
i wanna fight achilles with his spear on the other hand
lyric wharf
Just wish he didn't talk
This, that's why I said that lol.
somber star
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr............rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.................rrrrrrrr..........rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
lyric wharf
Alecto is funny lol.
tepid plover
Is she
crystal marten
Sometimes, swap Theseus and Asterius for ||Achilles and Patroclus||
somber star
Yeah
lyric wharf
Oh that'd be interesting.
tepid plover
Then sometimes swap lernie with cerb, and the final boss with ... ||charon||
crystal marten
Theseus gives me the impression that he's just doing the pro-wrestling thing for the audience, and we never get him away from the audience.
ornate bear
While dead, would Achilles still be immune to all harm except his heel, or did that blessing expire when he died?
tepid plover
He ded
crystal marten
Achilles is exactly as dead as Theseus is
tepid plover
I definitely wouldn't mind boss variety like they do the furies
Which is still kinda the same but adds variety
lyric wharf
Then sometimes swap lernie with cerb, and the final boss with ... ||charon|| <:s...
At least we can fight ||Charon|| lol.
lyric wharf
Talking of which, I can do it right now, I'm going to, I need to do the prophecy, I actually ||defeated him twice in a row before|| but I didn't have the prophecy yet, I knew we had to do this from seeing it online.
tepid plover
Gl
lyric wharf
For once I got the fight not early game with barely any boons, I got him easily.
lyric wharf
Gl
Late thank you.
Also hidden sword with Artemis on attack is pretty good alone so that helped a lot.
I just finished prophecy, that's nice, I actually didn't refight him since I defeated him twice in a row so I guess the game kept the count in.
tepid plover
Big numbers
manic moat
that with aphro special
for heart rend
maybe dio dash and dio/artemis if you're going really
lyric wharf
I actually forgot about that but yeah I'll go with Aphrodite next time.
Thank you for the advices.
lyric wharf
maybe dio dash and dio/artemis if you're going really
Going really what ?
tepid plover
Do you ever just go really?
manic moat
it just works if you wanna put everything on the crits
lyric wharf
I see but yeah Dio/Artemis duo will help with crit.
manic moat
and not something more defensive like athena dash
lyric wharf
Next run I'll try Artemis/Aphrodite/Dio.
manic moat
elucidate
lyric wharf
I main Stygian Soul now no matter if cast build or not, also it made me realize that I'm willing to take the risk for some curse from Chaos that I otherwise wouldn't chose, like I'd really need the extra blood stones for cast builds.
somber star
Is stygian soul the green one?
manic moat
yea
tepid plover
It depends
somber star
What is it again
vale pecan
Then sometimes swap lernie with cerb, and the final boss with ... ||charon|| <:s...
Final fight vs ||Hades and Persephone||
lyric wharf
So unless the curse forbid me to use my main source of damage with no other reliable source of damage to keep up, I just go for what I really need.
manic moat
yea
somber star
But then you don't have 3
tepid plover
Not that, is that you can have way more than 3
manic moat
but you can get more bloodstones
manic moat
imagine that many casts and flurry cast on something like hunting blades
somber star
Is stygian soul really better though
lyric wharf
But then you don't have 3
Yeah its hard at first to go Stygian Soul but you can get extra bloodstones from Chaos and Artemis legendary.
tepid plover
In that specific scenario, the regen was better
manic moat
if you dont have a cast build then stygian because you only need it to put it in the bosses for more damage
lyric wharf
Hermes has a boon that decrease the charging time with Stygian Soul.
manic moat
with a legendary that just makes it 0
somber star
You seem to think I've ever even seen artemis or chaos's legendarys
lyric wharf
Fated Persuasion for Chaos.
manic moat
artemis legendary isn't that difficult, and chaos legendary uhhh exists?????
somber star
I've never seen either
tepid plover
lyric wharf
Chaos has a legendary but its not the cast one.
tepid plover
Yeah chaos legendary is the death defiance
somber star
Lmao
lyric wharf
Spoiler btw, ||Hades fight||.
somber star
Ok you've convinced me to go stygian
tepid plover
Not my clip, I cant remember who's the owner
lyric wharf
Ok you've convinced me to go stygian
Just go with what you prefer but give it a try yeah.
tepid plover
Theres no better
lyric wharf
Hidden fail is awesome yeah.
tepid plover
Sometimes you will need to switch
lyric wharf
For now I keep Stygian Soul, I like not having to recollect the stones, lately I haven't been playing cast build so it doesn't change anything really even if cast is still pretty good for non cast builds as well.
lyric wharf
I prefer Stygian Soul for Hera bow.
tepid plover
Interesting
lyric wharf
Hera bow is my favorite bow.
manic moat
I tried stygian for cast loaders but it didn't work that well
craggy barn
stygian is better for hera/||beo|| only if you're using trippy shot
manic moat
I was using trippy only
lyric wharf
stygian is better for hera/||beo|| only if you're using trippy shot
Why ?
tepid plover
Spoiler btw, ||Hades fight||.
Not only that but ||em4|| good callout 
craggy barn
Why ?
it means you don't have to wait the eternity it takes for the fog to subside to be able to use it again
tepid plover
Yeah with trippy shot is good
lyric wharf
it means you don't have to wait the eternity it takes for the fog to subside to ...
True.
I use Stygian Soul with Hera bow Crush Shot as well.
feral mountain
How much Ambrosia you think I need for the epilogue? I'm sitting on 38 waiting for most of the gods to unlock. I've already done the 3 romances. Thinking I should convert some over to titan's blood.
craggy barn
infernal is better for crush shot
works best if you have greater recall
hermes legendary
lyric wharf
Yeah.
But then like I said, not having to worry about recollecting them helps.
But nice to know all of that still tho.
I just checked and Hermes keepsake is a requirement for both of his legendaries.
gritty roost
feral mountain
That seems pretty quick. I still haven't taken plume all the way through to the end, I usually think I wasn't fast enough and swap it out. I'm better slow and steady, so I do well with the butterfly
flat halo
I just keep it on me the whole time
Level 2
And I used fist and got +5 attack for consecutive hits
So my yolo strategy got more yolo
Add in weak, plume dodge AND charm
And Iām a melee machine
feral mountain
My fastest clear is like 23 mins. Oddly with the bow.
flat halo
Now I just need to unlock 1 of each weaponās aspect
What knuckle aspect should I unlock
feral mountain
I went with Demeter, that special hits hard when built up. I haven't put anything into Talos, the 2nd one.
The hidden one is really cool. It smacks, and the dash is cool. But you take more damage
hearty bramble
talos is so fun imo
magnetic cutter is crazy good... u just pull everything right to you and the pull itself does dmg too
feral mountain
Yeah I want to try it, but was trying to put at least a few points into aspects I like. vs. spreading myself too thin. Trying to figure out how much ambrosia I need because I think I can convert some over to blood
crystal beacon
dude magnetic cutter is so banger but i didnt use it for a while after unlocking it bc i was like :// this is weird
barren python
dude magnetic cutter is so banger but i didnt use it for a while after unlocking...
i just upgraded it to lvl 5
its cool
you make a lot of damage
gilded leaf
Which is better then
feral mountain
You can upgrade, toy with Skelly for a bit, then quit the game and it will reset. So long as you do NOT leave the room.
hearty bramble
https://imgur.com/jybPOYy
what an appropriate name
thorny island
Both good! Talos is better for special spam/alternating attacks frequently, while demeter is good for holding down attack and dash constantly only occasionally using special
livid otter
What knuckle aspect should I unlock
I prefer Talos over Demeter personally. It helps solve the issue of having a serious lack of range while also giving you a hefty damage increase
gilded leaf
i made it especially for this conversation since it happens so often
gilded leaf
what an appropriate name
oh wait. i misread 'name' as 'meme'
hearty bramble
i mean both are good :)
feral mountain
I'm going to try Talos tomorrow then
livid otter
Here's my Talos guide
Step 1. Use special
Step 2. Punch
Repeat steps 1 and 2 until you escape
livid otter
feral mountain
Whoa whoa whoa slow down guys, this is too many steps
thorny island
Repeat steps 1 and 2 until you dash into a vase and die instantly
livid otter
You need 11 more steps wami
thorny island
Good point
livid otter
It takes 12 punches to activate the double special
I wish there was a way to change the appearance of the weapons without changing the effect
The big eye on the shield is spooky
livid otter
That too
opaque nexus
flat halo
Nice
So Talos is for special spam
And Dementer is for fist spam
Guys
Should I get the forge
When I have Hoarding sword and sword spam upgrade
And 1600 gold thatās about to be spent on blood
runic parrot
zag fist is for standing in place and hoping to not get hit spammed
flat halo
Collected 3k gold
Got Hoarding Dlash
Got Sword spam by holding
Got Hangover
Conclusion: Melt
acoustic plank
Hoarding slash is great until you realize that it only increases base damage and doesn't scale with crits or abilities
manic moat
mn I always forget to set up the mirror before my runs
and Im too scared to give up and do it again because I have a good see
why can't the mirror be in the final room only
supple lodge
things that are extremely satisfying: killing theseus halfway through a voiceline
runic parrot
YOU HAVE NO PLACE IN HERE, FI- AAAAARGH, YOU FIEND!
runic parrot
why can't the mirror be in the final room only
yeah this is sometimes my pet peeve esp if im running an unconventional build
manic moat
like I was running a lot of crit builds so I switched from priv stat
vapid narwhal
all 4 are capable of running high heat
in fact all aspect are viable till you venture into uber high heat territory
runic parrot
eris and chiron are my particular favourites to run on 20
but only because i havent dabbled in nemesis or achilles as much
prisma wind
Generally speaking, all aspects have been balanced up to about 40
flat halo
If it goes beyond 40, then what
prisma wind
Then some become less viable
loud lintel
It also depends on what modifiers you pick
Some aspects deal better with certain conditions than others
light harness
Is there a mod that tells you how fast you clicked for a fishing attempt? I'd just like to see what my reaction time was
vapid narwhal
past 40 you are basically looking at hidden shield, hidden spear, hidden sword, Eris, Hestia and demeter
flat halo
Hestia is gun right?
steady gate
Yes
deep pivot
vapid narwhal
Hera and hidden bow as well
flat halo
What about Chiron
manic moat
hidden spear and hidden shield are good?????
steady gate
What about Chiron
Bow
vapid narwhal
hidden spear is a staple at high heat
runic parrot
especially with ||LC4||
livid otter
Which God's special boon would you say works best with aspect of chiron?
vapid narwhal
artemis, dio, demeter
loud lintel
I like demeter a lot on chiron
vapid narwhal
it's a lot of damage with arctic blast
loud lintel
It increases special damage and takes advantage of the high number of hits on the special
loud lintel
And demeter's legendary is pretty great too
livid otter
Thanks
runic parrot
heart rend with arty on special is good
vapid narwhal
aphro arty is a classic for chiron
runic parrot
especially with relentless volley and concentrated volley
manic moat
what would you take on attack with demeter special chiron
livid otter
And if that isn't enough arrows just pick up supportive fire from arty
livid otter
Can't go wrong with Aphro
runic parrot
support fire with relentless volley š
trail pendant
I usually clear chambers based on what they give me, but most of the time i get the pack from the second or the third one
loud lintel
i always take a non-boss room as my first chamber since the first chamber can never be a satyr sack
so that i get better odds for a "free" boss room
hearty bramble
im trying a 32 heat run with sword and got to the witches circle...last two just hid in the corner over the magma shooting at me i was So Mad
also why is zeus dash so bad
stable glen
Hey guys
I'm a dead cells player and I'm considering getting hades
can anyone here who's played both games give me a quick comparison so I know what to expect?
dull niche
hades is more character / story centric
like dead cells has lore, but not as much story
if u get what i mean
manic moat
yoo I'm actually getting dead cells soon
vapid narwhal
Hades is a very predominantly a SGG style story game
restive dew
hello
@stable glen They're very different. I have 180 or so hours in deadcells and only 7 in hades so far and there's really not much to compare besides maybe "fast paced combat"
stable glen
<@!525460002266152971> They're very different. I have 180 or so hours in deadcel...
can you compare the loot
synergies
Oh okay no swearing
restive dew
I don't understand synergies in this game very well so far, but as far as i can tell it is vastly different compared to deadcells
There's no "+ damage against enemy who has a x status effect" kind of synergies
vapid narwhal
There's no "+ damage against enemy who has a x status effect" kind of synergies
there definitely is
priv status from the mirror lets you deal +40% damage to enemies with two status effect on them
and certain god boons does have that kind of effect on certain debuffs as well
stable glen
@vapid narwhal have you played dead cells?
vapid narwhal
a bit, not very deep
stable glen
have you beat it?
vapid narwhal
I suck at 2d platformer/sidescrollers
stable glen
I just beat 1bc today so I though I'd come here and see what hades is like
I'll pick it up next time it's on a steam sale
vapid narwhal
Hades is vastly different
the roguelike system is not as deep because it never aims it to be
the strength comes from the narrative, story, production value
stable glen
"I suck at 2d platformers" - the guy with the ori pfp
vapid narwhal
well you havent seen my ori clear files with hundreds of deaths
stable glen
I tried blind forest and didn't really like it
vapid narwhal
the least one is my 3rd Ori 1 DE 100% playthrough with ~90 deaths
vapid narwhal
my WotW 100% playthrough had ~200 deaths
so that tells you what kind of player I am
copper canopy
Screwed up a run at the last moment from being too careless. What hurts about it though is that I finally shut out Thanatos and there was a fish there.
vapid narwhal
anyway, for Hades, the roguelike and combat system are solid/great enough to stand on its own, but the story combined with them propel it to new heights
copper canopy
my WotW 100% playthrough had ~200 deaths
Wind of the Waker?
copper canopy
Ah kk
Also I know itās Wind Waker aka WW, that was a lame joke
My other idea I had in mind was to say āWorld of the Warcraftā
restive dew
there definitely is
Eh, well like i said, as far as i can tell. Still, I can't imagine that those are quite as extreme as deadcell's synergies
hearty bramble
Screwed up a run at the last moment from being too careless. What hurts about it...
i just died immediately after summoning than, his summon hadnt even activated
i just imagine him standing there disappointed
copper canopy
One of my best moments summoning him was against Theseus. The attack killed him and it did the āChampions Vanquishedā screen and everything.
Only after that did Theseus randomly say āYouāve already taken me once, Death!ā
Even beyond the void he canāt stop talking
vapid narwhal
Hade's over all power curve is a lot less extreme
restive dew
speaking of power curve, theseus and the minotaur are HARD
2 tries still haven't even halfway finished the fight
vapid narwhal
yeah common roadblock
restive dew
I imagine the usual strategy is go for the minotaur first and then theseus?
hearty bramble
thats what i do since theseus does a surprise trick when u get him to half health
also because he doesnt actively charge after me
vapid narwhal
taknig out asterius first is always the recommended strat
old tundra
and keeping a pillar between you and theseus so you dont worry too much about his spear
restive dew
thanks guys!
copper canopy
and keeping a pillar between you and theseus so you dont worry too much about hi...
Theseus even points this out in one of his dialogues. He says something along the the lines of āThereās nothing honorable about always hiding behind pillars to avoid my attacks!ā
gaunt tapir
lmao I just spam dash whenever the crosshair is bright pink and usually survive
copper canopy
lmao I just spam dash whenever the crosshair is bright pink and usually survive
Same
gaunt tapir
What I am terrified of is the bull charge
old tundra
u just need to stand next to a wall/pillar and dodge at the last second
copper canopy
Do the āolĆ©ā thing like in real life bull charges
copper canopy
That, or run/dash away while going around pillars hoping he hits one along the way
hearty bramble
just accidentally entered an erebus gate instead of the chaos gate next to it 
craggy barn
that reminds me i still have to get the onions 3 more times to complete the codex entry
old tundra
especially fishing
flat halo
Yeah I am right, right?
old tundra
yes
craggy barn
filling out the codex entry for erebus is going to be painful
but there's also getting the final badge
flat halo
What badge
craggy barn
jesus christ i'm barely a quarter of the way there
tall zodiac
Best summon?
slate jetty
Sure glad thereās no achievement for fully completing it
the only thing you get from fully completing the codex is a ||special line of dialogue from Achilles||. The most time consuming codex entry for me was a Chaos fish.
old tundra
i generally use || shady || for the freebies
craggy barn
i did ||32 heat|| earlier and it's actually a bit fun
old tundra
i mean yea once i start enabling the healing heat thing ill probably switch out, just that i relatively just started out heats
tepid plover
I just did it for the statue, but it definitely wasn't fun for me
gaunt tapir
I've yet to touch heat and I am scared
craggy barn
being forced to tryhard your way through hell with these dangerous conditions feels refreshing
old tundra
im at 10 and i feel like i've run out of easy heats to enable lol
tepid plover
Lol
long kindle
Quick q, why does Hypnos have access to Hades' chambers?
craggy barn
he does????