h1-discussion

[copper canopy]

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[proven stump]

wat

[wind token]

@copper canopy ||Try Excalibur, plus Aphro attack, plus pressure points.||

[eager flame]

chaos fishes are so pretty....

[copper canopy]

I think the ||small talk|| is hilarious. If you haven’t already, try using ||Hades’ Keepsake|| during the boss.

[steady gate]

It makes it funnier

[wind token]

You dont get the magic often, but when you do, you can one shot 0pretty much anything.

[brazen lagoon]

even better get arte attack and aphro special

[copper canopy]

It could be worse, you could be like me and have your last fish be a ||surface one||

[brazen lagoon]

get heart rend on top of that and you're coasting

[pliant ridge]

Oh, I have, haha. Almost as good as using ||Demeter's Aid|| when in her Trial of gods

[wind token]

@brazen lagoon I've done that. Critting for 2.5K after a lucky Chaos boon on the regular is nice

[brazen lagoon]

yep

[copper canopy]

Is it possible to get 100% damage reduction?

[brazen lagoon]

dont think so

damage reduction is multiplicative i think

[copper canopy]

||Excalibur’s field|| would help

[brazen lagoon]

not additive

[wind token]

God Mode plus ||Arthur|| should lol

"My magic immunity bubble. Permanent Athena call lol."

[waxen juniper]

EM 4 is brutal!

Have not gotten a win on it yet.

[copper canopy]

||H32|| was easier...

[waxen juniper]

Seriously though

[wind token]

I finally beat EM5

[steady gate]

Hmm

[waxen juniper]

Sorry?

[steady gate]

Should I play more bow

[copper canopy]

W h a t

[steady gate]

[waxen juniper]

Da heck is EM 5?

[wind token]

Heat 5

Sorry

[steady gate]

Bruh

[wind token]

Nm you guys are talking something else

[waxen juniper]

Oh, that is very very different 😆

[hearty bramble]

[copper canopy]

I disliked it before getting the hang of dash charges, now it’s one of my favorites.

[waxen juniper]

Either way, great job!

[eager flame]

oh by the way- any tips for runs with gan yu's spear?

[steady gate]

What are dash charges

[wind token]

I hate that spear

[copper canopy]

Play it safe, you can afford to.

[steady gate]

Spear is braindead lmao

It's my first weapon I beat hades with

[autumn mist]

||is there anything to the game after beating Hades or just extra challenge?||

[copper canopy]

If you dash and press attack shortly after, your next charge shot charges much faster than normal. It should be a part of the weapon’s tutorial moveset.

[wind token]

@steady gate Shield for me. Sat in a corner spamming the projectile from the hammer

[copper canopy]

There’s a lot more

[hearty bramble]

i hated spear until getting some upgrades. or maybe it was also me getting better

[steady gate]

Oh I see

[autumn mist]

Alrighty thx

[copper canopy]

I LOVE Shield’s shot hammer upgrade.

[eager flame]

shield first as well, despite my struggles with the shield at the beginning

[steady gate]

||Achilles aspect makes spear a ton of fun ||

I thought shield was the best weapon at one point

[wind token]

@copper canopy Makes the final boss brain dead though lol

[copper canopy]

||ngl still need to do a run with that. Hades is fun if you get spin charge speed and or spin area upgrades||

The area becomes H U G E

[autumn mist]

I don’t like using spin

[hearty bramble]

that and max leveled ||Hades aspect|| is pretty Pog

[autumn mist]

Even tho spear is my favorite weapon

[eager flame]

i'm in a bow run right now but last escape was the achilles spear, but i might switch to zag's since you guys think it's better

[copper canopy]

Me neither tbh except for that aspect because it’s huge by default and has a perk

[eager flame]

oh the spin attack seems really useful but i've yet to get a hang of it

[copper canopy]

Any other aspect? Nah

[wind token]

Spin is the only part of the spear that deals any damage though

[hearty bramble]

jabjabjab jabjabjab jabjabjab jabjabjab--

[eager flame]

i prefer dash striking and spamming attack tbh

[wind token]

Everything else is death by a thousand jabs

[eager flame]

yep

[copper canopy]

This tbh usually

[eager flame]

my finger goes clickclickclick

[wind token]

@eager flame Idky the dash hammer reduces dash distance

[hearty bramble]

speedy spin attack is fun tho

[eager flame]

ah yeah for sure, i feel like i just don't like waiting

which is why the bow is usually a pain now

[copper canopy]

Don’t get that one, it’s nice but the tradeoff isn’t worth it

[wind token]

And theres other hammers for other weapons that are more op, without a tradeoff

[eager flame]

is that one the one where the dash hits three times but reduces distance

[wind token]

Yes

[copper canopy]

Yes

[eager flame]

ah i used that one last time since the other upgrades didn't seem that appealing

[copper canopy]

But yeah I never spin attack, although the couple times I used ||hades aspect|| it’s fun because the extra damage and gigantic coverage.

[wind token]

It's good if you luck into extra dashes, but otherwise you're going to eat a lot of damage

[copper canopy]

Mkay gonna go watch something

Seeya~

[eager flame]

eating damage is what i'm best at

[wind token]

Though I'm not gonna lie, Talos plus Legendary extra dashes, plus Artemis dash strike is op

[eager flame]

bye!

[copper canopy]

Bye~

[sudden patrol]

Oh my god I’m mad

I found a kiss of styx in the room after elysium but I had a chaos boon where I couldn’t get coins for 3 rooms so I couldn’t sell boons to buy it

So it’s being taunted in front of me

Like that one guy in greek mythology

Tantalus

Welp

Time to abort the run

Shame

It was going so well

[waxen juniper]

Valiant effort lad!

There's always another run at least

[manic bobcat]

Dormammu Tartarus, I've come to bargain.

[lilac vortex]

bruh aim assist on pc sucks

ill literally miss biy a pixel cause it refuses to kick in

[heavy pendant]

got a question

How many different olympians can you get boons from in a single run

you can totally get one from all eight in a single run right?

[lilac vortex]

yep

ok if you fill up your core boons in tartarus thats 4

then you switch keepsakes three times

you can get all of them (hermes doesnt count as a core god

wait no you can get all but 1 i think

[heavy pendant]

freaking demeter

[manic bobcat]

you can indeed get all of them and Hermes

If you get 3 gods before mid shop in Tartarus, there is a chance another one spawn in mid shop and yet another in boss shop. You can get out of Tartarus with 5 gods, swap 3 times and make it 8.

[waxen juniper]

It's ambitious and it does seem like a lot of luck is involved in tartarus. However, as Foxhope said, it is certainly doable.

[autumn mist]

My KD on Hades is 279.68

L o l

[hearty bramble]

i had just gotten the move speed curse from chaos and in the next encounter i just jog in super slow and zag goes "ill be leaving shortly 😏 " and that was so funny to me

[manic bobcat]

lul

[ripe sun]

Am I allowed to talk about Dead Cells here?

It's on sale on steam and I am debating buying it

[manic bobcat]

try #video-games :D

[uneven canyon]

I just don't get it.

How is Chaos Shield good?

[manic bobcat]

what's the level of your Chaos Shield?

[supple lodge]

clocking in at 87.6 hours on hades already

already close to ||epilogue||

still havent progressed on hypnos favour

[hushed pumice]

I don't like it either, but when you max it can do some damage

[uneven canyon]

level 2

[hushed pumice]

Yeah don't bother before you max it

Aspect of Zeus is the shield you want for 1 blood

[lyric wharf]

Can we change badges ?

[celest plover]

A few moments ago i asked you guys

[prisma wind]

If you're talking about ||ranks||, no. Once you buy one you can't go back to a lower tier

[celest plover]

the best aspect for Varatha

Now i am playing with heart seeking bow

[runic parrot]

i like hades because speen go big

[celest plover]

And i have to say that bow is amazing!

[runic parrot]

but apparently most people here also like achilles

[prisma wind]

Welcome to bow gang

Aka the good life

[manic bobcat]

A life worth living

[lyric wharf]

I'm trying out hidden railgun for the first time, a bit slow to get started with but its getting better after getting a few boons.

[prisma wind]

It's definitely a fun aspect that takes some getting used to

[manic bobcat]

Reminder that you can dash and not interrupt the attack

[celest plover]

I always thought that Varatha is the best weapon because it is the most versatile weapon in the game.

[lyric wharf]

Interesting, thank you for the advice.

[lyric wharf]

Yeah like most hidden aspects.

[celest plover]

Now i am rocking underworld with Chiron's aspect and Artemis's boons.

[prisma wind]

Chiron might just be the most user friendly aspect in the game, in my opinion

[lyric wharf]

Anyone knows if we can change badges ?

[manic bobcat]

What kind of badges are we talking about?

[lyric wharf]

||Resources Director.||

[manic bobcat]

Nope

Only upgrades

[lyric wharf]

The last one looks amazing.

It'd be nice if we could chose which one we want.

[hollow hawk]

wait

wow

so you guys know how like your dash is more of just a lunge forward right

like a teleport, rather than an actual dash, so you can dash through obstacles and stuff

well, today i learned that you can dash into the wretched broker's shop itself

and zag even has special dialogue for it!

[manic bobcat]

Yup!

[hollow hawk]

it is a bit hard, but i was really pleased to find that out

[craggy barn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/761220441049661442/805008080185982976/the_perfect_painting_to_embarass_several_members_of_the_house_at_once.png

[lyric wharf]

I actually didn't know we could dash there, nice to know.

I gotta say it really helps to have a damaging dash for the special with ||Lucifer|| aspect.

[tender fjord]

Is getting Meg's favour completely rng?

[dusky wedge]

How do we actually use Golden Touch mirror upgrade? The one that grants 15% extra gold on region clear? Not buy anything until 4th region?

[tender fjord]

i think it has more potential profit than deep pockets overall, but the benefit of deep pockets is you get the money immediately at the start

you just have to be more mindful when spending, and also proabbly fight charon if you get the chance

[dusky wedge]

How much extra money we talking here? How high have people got with it?

[craggy barn]

just make sure you have a lot of money by the end of the section lol

[tender fjord]

its good for farming blood/diamonds from the styx shop

[dusky wedge]

Not spending money in the earlier shops sounds crazy lmao

[tender fjord]

If we're talking extreme, people have gotten through asphodel with 3.5k and gotten about 500 from golden touch

but that's quite unnecessarily extreme lmao, im talking max gold runs

[sharp fossil]

its actually super good if you're deliberately saving money for the diamond/blood in the styx shop

[dusky wedge]

That’s sounds very impressive

[sharp fossil]

but ye 100 at the start is way more practical 90% of the time

[craggy barn]

haelian made 9k obols and basically could not spend it by the time he made it through styx because he had hoarding slash

[lyric wharf]

What does fighting ||Charon|| has to do with this ?

[craggy barn]

you get 300/450 obols from stealing ||charon's bag||

[lyric wharf]

Farming for blood/diamond in Styx isn't worth it btw, you'll get a lot if you can consistently finish the game.

[lyric wharf]

Oh yeah I forgot about that lol.

[runic parrot]

how d you get 450? it's always been 300 for me

[craggy barn]

if you can consistently finish the game surely you can do a full run without buying anything from the styx shop aside from the titan blood/diamond

[runic parrot]

unless iforgot

[sharp fossil]

its always 300

[loud lintel]

yeah im doing 8 heat runs while buying the blood/diamond pretty consistently

[old tundra]

can i get duo boons from "god trial/pick a god" rooms?

[loud lintel]

nope

[runic parrot]

can you really not?

i mean, apart from the duo who are battling in that room

like cant i get merciful end from an athena-poseidon trial room

[craggy barn]

you can't get duo boons from trials but you can get legendaries

[runic parrot]

i see

[craggy barn]

i mean you can certainly get legendary boons

just not duo booons

[old tundra]

what about getting the zeus-artemis duo boon with stygian soul?

[runic parrot]

the one where your collectible strikes lightning

and i dont think you can get it, no

[old tundra]

ah okay

thanks

[craggy barn]

which duo is best depends on your build and what you're going for

[old tundra]

just unlocking for prophecies tbh atm

[craggy barn]

sweet nectar is great but really shines in cast builds where you can make your cast even stronger

[runic parrot]

i've yet to get ice wine

which one is sweet nectar?

[craggy barn]

aphro/poseidon

[old tundra]

pom upgrades +1 lvl

[runic parrot]

ah yes, that one

i got my crush shot to lv 15 because of it

literally broken

[old tundra]

im currently playing the zeus+dio with 4 casts

[runic parrot]

scint feast?

that one's also fun

[old tundra]

yea

[craggy barn]

get ice wine

:))))))

[runic parrot]

i dont know what ice wine is apart from the fact that i havent gotten it in my 120 hrs of play

[craggy barn]

just check dio's boons in the codex

[runic parrot]

i know it's dio-dem but i dont know what it does lol

[craggy barn]

it causes the cast to immediately activate instead of lobbing a weird ball and waiting for it to land on the target

it also inflicts chill and doesn't bounce off walls

[lyric wharf]

I'm playing with Zeus shield and Poseidon on attack, I'm in the barge of death and I knocked the blue crystal enemy out of the barge lol.

[craggy barn]

and you got softlocked

[lyric wharf]

It seems like when they die they get ejected further.

I was actually wondering about that but no.

[runic parrot]

wow. that's pretty powerful. i've gotta try it out sometime then

[craggy barn]

it also slowly inflicts chill

and works with scint

[lyric wharf]

Ice wine is amazing, my favorite cast in the game.

[craggy barn]

shame it prevents you from using boiling blood but it makes up for that by stunning enemies

and if you get black out it's pretty nice

[supple lodge]

I gave Dusa ambrosia and now she thinks I'm hitting on her

[craggy barn]

think of it as like giving your friend alcohol but they really don't like alcohol

[supple lodge]

mmhm

[craggy barn]

oh yeah also i finally did sub 19 with all weapons earlier

well not quite i guess i still gotta do the spear

[supple lodge]

I really don't want to romance anyone but welp gotta dump ambrosia on 3 people to do aphros favor

[craggy barn]

next goal is less than 18 minutes with achilles

[old tundra]

you can just be friends with them tho

[craggy barn]

just say no

they can't take your virginity without your consent

[supple lodge]

also thanatos refused to show up at home for the past bunch of runs

how can i gift him if hes gone

cri

[trail pendant]

you can romance only 3 characters right?

[supple lodge]

yeah just whip lady snake head and grim creeper

[trail pendant]

i wanna gift Meg, but I already gave her enough nectar and need to "deepen our relationship"

[brazen lagoon]

just keep talking to her

[trail pendant]

I try to, but half the time she's not there 😄

[brazen lagoon]

tuff

[supple lodge]

you need to give ambrosia

[lyric wharf]

I unlocked Thanatos favor earlier today.

Its the last romance I have to go.

[plucky phoenix]

you can't romance hypnos?

[supple lodge]

can't romance him

[plucky phoenix]

i want my money back

:(

[supple lodge]

if its any consolation, zag/hypnos is an extremely popular ship in the fandom lol

[plucky phoenix]

oh i know

[supple lodge]

tons of fan fics and art to scroll through

[plucky phoenix]

i have done extensive research

[supple lodge]

fellas is it gay to die on purpose just to see a guy, asking for a friend

[brazen lagoon]

no obviously they're just very close friends

/s

[plucky phoenix]

homies

roommates even

[lyric wharf]

I found it really funny when Hypnos says to Zagreus ||he bet that we die on purpose to see him again and Zagreus agrees to it in a sarcastic way lol.||

[supple lodge]

(but sometimes i die on purpose just to hear whatever riveting advice hypnos has to offer)

[craggy barn]

can you proceed to the next chamber while an infernal trove is active?

[brazen lagoon]

yes

[supple lodge]

Thanatos no let me progress Hypnos favour

[lyric wharf]

I lvled Zeus shield and found out shortly after how to unlock the hidden aspect, nice.

I'm unlocking all the hidden aspects lately, I only had hidden spear and bow for a while, now I want to get them all.

Maxed Zeus shield is really nice.

I love how you can damage enemies from one side by throwing the shield and damage enemies at another side at the same time with Zeus shield.

[little totem]

folks, silly question...|| I unlocked Pact of Punishment months ago but I just interacted with the draped pillars to the left of it and Skelly was kind enough to explain that the pact unlocks whatever these pillars represent||

||The pillar indicates I need 8 "skulls" to unlock it, does it mean I need to complete a run with the punishment bar filled to 8? or 8 times 1x skull will also to the trick?||

[runic parrot]

||it has to be 8 heat, yes||

[little totem]

thanks, I usually run with just one skull, guess I need to get good somehow 😄

[vapid narwhal]

||imagine the pact as difficulty selector, the statues would mean you need to complete the game once on level 8, 16 and 32, respectively||

||with the right modifiers, up to 10 is not that different||

[runic parrot]

||yeah, you can train yourself to be as good as no heat on around 12ish with enough training, after that it becomes significantly harder||

[little totem]

||oh thank god, I got to the bit when Demeter does some name dropping and feared the story is coming to an end||

||considering I literally JUST noticed the statues, though of them as a part of the backdrop, never even thought of interacting with them ||

thank you guys, I really appreciate it 🙂

[craggy barn]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1145360/discussions/0/3008934419467442946/

amazing thread

[supple lodge]

trash game, -1/10
cannot pet all 3 of dog heads

[granite ether]

game named as Hades and can't play as Hades 0/10 video game

[jagged schooner]

im shaking

[plucky phoenix]

it didn't take that long to kill bone hydra lmao that person's should try not getting hit

[jagged schooner]

not even kidding hades is literally one fo the best games ive played this year

I dont like rougelike games like deadass I always play open world games if someone told me the description of hades I literally would not play it but when I did I was OBSESSED

[craggy barn]

"Mad Lad Trash Dash" is the best game title i've ever read can we get supergiant to change it from hades to that

[jagged schooner]

AHAHAHAAHAHHA

hades is genuinely an amazing game Im OBSESSED

ALSO THE CHARACTERS R HOT

BLESS

[supple lodge]

-100/10 i can't date the cutest guy, ||skelly||

[granite ether]

it would be funny but also weird at the same time to see Darren romance himself

(Darren voices both skelly and zag)

[plucky phoenix]

boyo

[jagged schooner]

stan Darren the RANGE of his voice lol

[craggy barn]

skellygreus

[supple lodge]

he does beg himself to hit himself

[jagged schooner]

AHAHHGHHADLKSAASL;JAK

[supple lodge]

meg and thanatos who???? tje real heart throb of the game is skelly

[craggy barn]

"From here on out there will be no more violence. There will be only pleasantries between us."
"No... Please, have mercy..."

[ionic dawn]

[versed vessel]

7.8/10 too much colours

[brazen lagoon]

3/10 no rock romance

[versed vessel]

rock already have one

best bromance

[brazen lagoon]

that whole thread is hilarious

at one point he calls cyberpunk 2077 the "true game of the year"

[granite ether]

they might as well call fallout 76 goty 2020 at that point 😂

[supple lodge]

cyberpunk 2077 is not game of the year because i cant romance hypnos

(healthy dose of /s of course)

[meager steppe]

Does it even have the goodest boi?!?

[brazen lagoon]

and then he brags about him playing games nonstop since 1996 for some reason

[meager steppe]

That doesn’t seem healthy....

[supple lodge]

lightweight lol i've been playing games since 1000 BC

don't call yourself a real gamer unless you played hoop with a stick

[meager steppe]

That poor guy completely missed those early handhelds with the static backgrounds

[somber star]

How does this man have the web if he's been playing games nonstop since 1996

[brazen lagoon]

I been playing games since I was still in my dad's crown jewels

He ain't got nothin on me

[supple lodge]

dont call yourself a real gamer unless you played the original olympic games, nudity and olive oil included

[meager steppe]

Ohhh. I can’t post from my camera roll.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/19/21136607/hasbro-tiger-electronics-lcd-handheld-games-xmen-sonic-transformers

Don’t come for me unless you snuck this out of the house to play on the bus....

[brazen lagoon]

The people in that thread are saying it's boring because it's just hit dodge hit dodge hit over and over again

Like the fps games they play aren't just shoot reload shoot shoot

[meager steppe]

Or the JRPG’s that aren’t just select options

[runic parrot]

i enjoy this game more than the other roguelikes ive played because there's so little items in this game

[meager steppe]

The dodge hit dodge hit makes me miss KI

[brisk trail]

Hey uh, do you get a badge for beating ||charon the shopkeeper||?

[runic parrot]

much more fun trying to build

[meager steppe]

With the black cart

[runic parrot]

what do you mean by badge

[brisk trail]

like, a game achivement

[runic parrot]

on steam there is one

i wouldn't know about other platforms

[cobalt roost]

i own one of those

[runic parrot]

but in-game, no

[meager steppe]

I’m on switch and all I got was a discount and 300 obols

It was still worth it.

[runic parrot]

there is no permanent reward, however as drumrboy mentioned there is a reward for your current run, that being the 20% discount applied to all charon's items and 300 obols

[hollow hawk]

Isn't there a prophecy top?

Too*

[meager steppe]

No idea.

[neon kelp]

so

is there a dlc

[meager steppe]

Frankly, I was just happy to finally get a win against him.

[neon kelp]

or sequel

for this game

[hollow hawk]

Nothing planned@neon kelp

[runic parrot]

oh yeah. there is a prophecy once you trigger a specific dialogue with hermes to ||beat charon twice in a row||

[meager steppe]

Didn’t sorta just get it’s official release?

[supple lodge]

SGG is on break

Let them get time off before thinking about future projects or whatnot

[neon kelp]

i see

is roguelike one of the genre that let u play the game over and over again ?

[hollow hawk]

yes

[neon kelp]

one of the famous genre i mean

[meager steppe]

At this point, treat them like blizzard. Go to Korea once a year. Gather a bunch of user created content. And wait your happy butt for them to be good and ready.

Still waiting on Starcraft: Ghost

[granite ether]

all good things must eventually come to an end ^_^

[hollow hawk]

honestly, even if they dont publish any dlc or whatever

I'm still content with mods

[supple lodge]

more romance mods

[hollow hawk]

After i inevitably get bored, ill go the route of mods

I want more story mods

[neon kelp]

can u

make the

i dunno her name

the pony tail girl

the first boss u encounter

to be your girlfriend or soemthing

[brazen lagoon]

Maybe

[neon kelp]

no i mean

official system

that let u

do so

[brazen lagoon]

Perhaps

[runic parrot]

they should add dlc that lets you replace hades to do parchmentwork

[hollow hawk]

speedrunning community would do all the parchmentwork in 2 mins

[supple lodge]

dlc that lets zagreus sit in chairs

i want to sit in hades' chair

[runic parrot]

speaking of chairs, ||there's a chair behind the house contractor that literally never gets sat on. i s2g i thought it would be occupied by another side character but no, no one ever sits down on it||

[meager steppe]

Never stops to sit. It’s canon.

I’m baffled at that spoiler.

[runic parrot]

it technically is an endgame spoiler.

[meager steppe]

Like it spoils something NOT in the game....

[runic parrot]

it spoils that ||no one ever sits in that chair||

[supple lodge]

Thanatos doesn't even sit in the chairs we buy for him

0/10

[runic parrot]

at least hypnos floats ominously above his bed

[meager steppe]

Then you couldn’t see his cute butt.

[runic parrot]

that's enough for me

[supple lodge]

Than has a flat butt don't @ me

[meager steppe]

Let’s go with sculpted...

[supple lodge]

the sculptor accidentally dropped his butt on the ground and it got flattened on impact

[loud lintel]

are there any other builds for poseidon sword apart from the cookie cutter cast+exit wounds+artemis legendary

[runic parrot]

whats cookie cutter

[vapid narwhal]

well that is the optimal build for poseidon

you can also just do a normal cast build

[runic parrot]

nevermind, i got it, it looks like a cookie cutter

[vapid narwhal]

get many +cast capacity boons and spam

[loud lintel]

cookie cutter means the usual

[runic parrot]

crush shot is the best cast for poseidon sword and i dont think anything else is gonna replace it for me

[supple lodge]

crush shot is also rlly good with hera bow

[loud lintel]

i dont like the melee range of crush shot

i prefer artemis cast with poseidon sword personally

[runic parrot]

maybe artemis, but i dont know

the optimal poseidon build for me is crush shot + exit wounds + fully loaded + the hermes boon that speeds up your cast + preferably some cast+1s from chaos

destroys bosses

[vapid narwhal]

try poseidon cast or zeus

[loud lintel]

zeus cast can be a bit wonky in terms of where it sticks though

poseidon cast aoe is 👌 though

artemis refuses to give me exit wounds

[fleet narwhal]

exit wounds with poseidon sword

so good

[somber star]

Is it intended for the rocket to have collision with the pillars in chaos

[ivory geode]

https://i.imgflip.com/4/31umw7.jpg i kinda wanna redraw this meme but its dark pit handing zagreus a piece of broken glass

i mean he is known to not have much respect for gods
though he probably wouldn't realize zagreus is a god at first anyway

[cinder lichen]

Whenever I hear someone getting roasted:
Chaos: Destruction.

[unborn remnant]

I dont get it

[ivory geode]

oh its my personal crossover content™️
the keepsake you get from dark pit is a mirror shard that deals damage over time to nearby enemies

[somber star]

If I used kiss of styx premium with no lost dd's would it do anything

[runic parrot]

i dont think so

[somber star]

Ok good to know

[unborn remnant]

@ivory geode so basically keepsakes if zagreus were in smash bros?

[craggy barn]

and apparently his review for that game was "BAD BAD BAD" and he thinks that the fact that he was born in 1996 validates his point

[brazen lagoon]

He called the game 'trash dash smash' at some point I think

[austere wagon]

guys i gave mag and achilles ambrosia to the max now

[ivory geode]

crossover with kid icarus specifically

[austere wagon]

its the last heart

how do i unlock it

[craggy barn]

.

[unborn remnant]

@ivory geode good crossover idea, what are some of the other keepsakes

[craggy barn]

kid icarus also has a "hades" right?

[ivory geode]

yes and he’s amazing

[unborn remnant]

Also that thread absolutely has to be bait

[craggy barn]

i'd figure he just constantly makes dad jokes speaking with zagreus because he thinks he's also zag's dad because a guy with the same name as him is also zag's dad

wait

so counting nyx then in this scenario zagreus has two moms and two dads

[ivory geode]

nyx and palutena.. night mom and light mom...
they’re even both the mom to a pair of twins where one is goth and the other is just a little bit of an idiot

[austere wagon]

bois how do i unlock the last heart for mag and achilles
i cant gift them anything anymore

i know its the ||companion||but how do i unlock it

[ivory geode]

i don’t actually remember what you have to do with meg

it’s worth noting that kid icarus also has a thanatos but he is a weird shapeshifting clown

[unborn remnant]

wait who's zag's brother?

hypnos?

[ivory geode]

i meant thanatos and hypnos

[unborn remnant]

oh

ok yeah

[somber star]

Is this anvil in charons shop worth it

[gritty roost]

depends, it's a gamble

[craggy barn]

depends on your current hammers

[gritty roost]

if you have bad hammer upgrades, probably go for it

[craggy barn]

if you just got two hammers that are bad for your build then go for it but there's still a risk of only getting worse hammers

but if you have at least one good hammer just don't go for it

[somber star]

I have flurry fire and rocket bomb

[unborn remnant]

@ivory geode wait I didnt play uprising, how does dark pit exist

[somber star]

Think I might just stick with these

[craggy barn]

yeah it's 50/50 but 50% is a big chance of it taking the good hammer

[gritty roost]

rocket bomb is good

[somber star]

Yeah

[gritty roost]

i wouldnt go for the anvil then

[craggy barn]

flurry fire is nice

[somber star]

Alright, going into ||Hades|| with 2dd and 252 health

[ivory geode]

there’s a mirror that clones stuff and the underworld is using it to make troops, pit destroys it but in the process Activates It- the mirror being broken before the copy was complete made dark pit the way he is (having a different personality and all)

[unborn remnant]

oh, makes sense

[ivory geode]

he’s fiercely independent and loves to fight but still has something of a moral compass

[unborn remnant]

is he a villian? antihero?

[craggy barn]

can i get 'bad call' and 'friends from high places' simultaneously?

[ivory geode]

antihero would probably be the best descriptor yeah

[unborn remnant]

very cool

thank you for informing me

[ivory geode]

he’s a good boy i love he

[eager flame]

hellooo any tips for defeating ||charon||?

[runic parrot]

i only need blackout and winter's harvest to complete the fated list

[runic parrot]

his attacks are very simple, and you get used to his windups after a few tries

[ivory geode]

idk if this is a tip but his attacks aren’t too tough to avoid, the main issue is how hard they hit

[runic parrot]

he just hits like a truck

er, a boat.

do boats hit hard?

[ionic dawn]

anyone knows how to unlock aspects of weapon?

[eager flame]

i see, thanks!

[ivory geode]

it’s funny that demeter in hades is like Grandma Moments but in ki viridi, goddess of nature, is like a non-creepy version of the “looks like a young girl but is actually a super old immortal” thing

emphasis on non creepy

[runic parrot]

unlock all of them first

and then do some runs, i forgot how exactly it went down

[somber star]

WHAT

[ivory geode]

you don’t have to unlock all the aspects to get the secret ones

if that’s what you mean

[ionic dawn]

well i havent unlocked the railgun thing

[somber star]

He had a tiny sliver of health left and something hit me out of nowhere

[ionic dawn]

and my last run was on hades stage

[somber star]

Spoiler that

[ivory geode]

like the hidden rail?

[ionic dawn]

oops

[ivory geode]

have you unlocked the hidden spear

[runic parrot]

i think they mean they havent unlocked exagryph

[ivory geode]

ohhhh

[somber star]

Yeah

[austere wagon]

for the hidden aspect u can go to #h1-story-discussion pinned msges

theres a guide there

[ionic dawn]

okay

[craggy barn]

"non-creepy"??

[ivory geode]

usually that trope is associated with anime characters who are sexualized

or similarly treated in Weird ways

[eager flame]

kinda stupid question but can you use mort against ||hades||

[ivory geode]

not at first

[eager flame]

oh?

[ivory geode]

i believe it’s after you clear 10 runs (you’ll know when that happens, it triggers a Big Boy Story Event)

[eager flame]

ahhh i won't get there in a while

[ivory geode]

i believe in you!!!

[eager flame]

i've heard you can use sysiphus's companion against him

[ivory geode]

iirc at first you can only use skelly’s

[craggy barn]

"grandma moments" now you got me seeing zagreus being like "not grandma freezing uncle poseidon's entire ocean over!! 🤣 🙈"

[eager flame]

hmm okay, thanks!

[ivory geode]

i like adding moments after things i think it’s funnier than it probably is

[ionic dawn]

thanks for the help, i actually found what im looking for

[unborn remnant]

I like bouldy

:)

[somber star]

Same

[unborn remnant]

[gritty roost]

who doesnt

[unborn remnant]

he looks like he's just happy to be in this game

[ivory geode]

Sir Appearing In This Game!!

[craggy barn]

bouldy is cool

[eager flame]

"look mom, i'm in hades!"

• bouldy

[craggy barn]

especially when he actually gives you a good boost

like damage reduction

[runic parrot]

hey, just a little secret, he's actually just a big rock sisyphus carved eyes and a smile into

[ivory geode]

who is bouldys mom

[eager flame]

the rock

[ivory geode]

idk if itd be funnier if sisyphus carved his little face or if he just naturally has it

[runic parrot]

meg carved it

with her whip

[craggy barn]

nonsense. bouldy is your friend, how could you say something like that? in front of him?

[eager flame]

sisyphus was dragged down to tartarus to find a boulder with a face

[craggy barn]

[unborn remnant]

Thats what makes him good

[shrewd helm]

Hello everyone

[somber star]

Hello

[desert meadow]

Once you get him to 4 hearts, yes.

[shrewd helm]

I just unlocked my first companion. From skelly actually. Should I go ahead and hold onto my ambrosia for getting other flavors first or is there a benefit to getting the last couple hearts for skelly now

Assuming its ambrosia to get the last couple hearts

[meager steppe]

The general rule on how to progress is to just play.

There will be more ambrosia. Spend it on what you’d like.

[shrewd helm]

Nice. So dont worry about it pretty much.

Got it. Thanks

[meager steppe]

The game is the grind.

[craggy barn]

almost everything you don't even have to go out of your way for

stuff like "get all hammers for ___" will probably just happen eventually

(assuming you haven't at least figured out how to make a good, cohesive build by then)

[shrewd helm]

Thanks a lot guys

[somber star]

I like the bull

He's not a prick like theseus

[sharp nest]

||One that's always a go-to for me is Tight Deadline. 9 minutes per zone isn't hard to keep up with, and your extra time rolls over into the next zone.||

[slim ravine]

||Tight deadline is good at first||

but i hate having to be on a timer

[somber star]

Tight Deadline?

[craggy barn]

||heat|| is a spoiler here

[shrewd helm]

Sorry about that

[slim ravine]

^

[craggy barn]

i'd say ||td2 is basically free heat||

||td3|| actually puts up a challenge but not too much

[slim ravine]

the one that ||makes the boss harder is pretty good if you can handle the first boss||

[runic parrot]

||if you can consistently finish in under 20 minutes, td2 is free heat, yeah||

[shrewd helm]

My clears so far were around 24 minutes

[runic parrot]

||or even just 28.||

[shrewd helm]

I'll double check lol so I guess I'm a bit slow

[craggy barn]

||td2 is 27 minutes||

[lyric wharf]

Damn the hidden sword looks awesome, I've seen how it is before but not when equipped.

[runic parrot]

||it's 7 mins * 4 though||

[shrewd helm]

Oh idk why I wasn't counting ||styx|| so yea I should be fine I think

[runic parrot]

it hits hard.

very hard.

me likey for that reason

[slim ravine]

for ||td|| do bosses count?

[shrewd helm]

Nice. The timer pauses during dialogue.

[slim ravine]

i feel like i would lose alot of time on ||theseus||

[runic parrot]

i actually recommend you have the settings timer on at all times to see when the timer gets paused

well, you have ||td|| now so that doesnt matter anymore

[runic parrot]

yeah, it's per region

[lyric wharf]

The timer stops during Thanatos encounters.

[shrewd helm]

Also does anything happen when u beat ||charron|| lol. He has won 4/4 times now. But I only get a chance to fight him early on. He is tanky

[craggy barn]

the timer pauses on menus (boon selections, wells, etc), thanatos encounters and survival encounters

[slim ravine]

||you get to keep the money you borrowed||

[ivory geode]

||you get to keep the "borrowed" money and get 20% off everything for the rest of your run||

[runic parrot]

huh, it pauses for survival?

[ivory geode]

would suck majorly if it didn't

[runic parrot]

true

[unborn remnant]

Thats fair

The time is also scripted

[runic parrot]

does ||td2|| remove survival entirely

because i dont think ive seen a survival room with it on

[unborn remnant]

idk

[ivory geode]

it's also worth noting that survival chambers are free real estate for the lambent plume

[unborn remnant]

i dont think so but ive gotten it a lot less

[sharp nest]

I think even ||td1|| does. Or at least drastically reduces it.

[craggy barn]

the timer pauses during survival encounters but most people probably don't know that because those encounters are actually disabled if you have ||td|| on

[ivory geode]

how do we know that then? wizardry?

....that is to say hacking

[craggy barn]

some people actually have ||td|| off when speedrunning because survival rooms are basically free rooms if you're doing igt

[ivory geode]

theres this one minecraft server i used to play on where if you used the word "hacking" or "hacker" it would change to "magic" or "wizard"

[runic parrot]

i swear the timer didnt pause in survival room.

when i didnt have ||td|| on, that is

could be my faulty memory

[ivory geode]

are wrs decided by in-game timer or real time
i know speedrun.com lists both but

[runic parrot]

there's two boards

[ivory geode]

ahh

[runic parrot]

one for igt and one for rta

[lyric wharf]

I've got told that hidden sword is awesome with crit and I'm actually trying, really satisfying so far and I'm also enjoying the playstyle of the aspect itself.

[craggy barn]

crits are great because they're always really effective regardless of your weapon

[runic parrot]

but i think it's listed by igt

on speedrun.com

[lyric wharf]

That's awesome.

[somber star]

I beat all of elysium deathless for the first time

[craggy barn]

rapid attacks and multiple hits but low damage output? crits can greatly benefit you because several hits = sseveral chances to crit

slow, hard hitting attacks? crits can make them hit even HARDER

[lyric wharf]

Nice.

I love critical build with Hestia railgun.

[runic parrot]

me when i special hidden sword with deadly flourish

[lyric wharf]

Honestly the damage is so satisfying on hidden sword that ||the slow speed of attacks doesn't bother me at all.||

[craggy barn]

you can also dash while winding up an attack to reposition yourself while still killing people

[lyric wharf]

Yeah its nice that the combo still continue even after dashing.

Hidden sword is probably going to be another of my favorites.

[runic parrot]

what's your others

[craggy barn]

i think all the weapons/aspects are great but i just don't vibe with slow attacks

[lyric wharf]

I'm already enjoying it a lot so yeah.

[warped iron]

hidden bow is my favorite 😩

[craggy barn]

hidden bow is nice though, despite being really slow

[slow quarry]

best special in the entire game?

[craggy barn]

hidden shield is also really fun and it doesn't even actually feel slow

[runic parrot]

best special in the entire game?
poseidon sword

i am not biased

[craggy barn]

poseidon sword 😩 👌

[lyric wharf]

My favorite so far are Achilles, Hera, Hestia, I also really like hidden bow but I haven't played it as much as those three above because it suddenly made the game so much easier even with ||EM4|| so I preferred to leave it aside for the time being.

[craggy barn]

hidden spear and achilles also have very good specials

[eager flame]

i'm late but tbh this is why i love this game so much- there's a comfort in knowing that no purchase or escape is wasted because you can get something out of every run and that trying and dying and then going again is the only way to truly progress

[runic parrot]

i never got used to achilles

too much movement for me

[eager flame]

hidden spear is so gooood

[lyric wharf]

This.

[eager flame]

honestly i move way too much for my own good hahshskdk

[craggy barn]

i might be a bit biased toward hidden spear for that one time i got heartbreak flourish + charged shot and dealt like 700+ damage by the time i got to asphodel

[lyric wharf]

Achilles is my most favorite so far.

[runic parrot]

in all my 20 runs with the hidden spear i have never gotten charge shot with it

[lyric wharf]

Interesting.

[eager flame]

if i stand still i feel like i'm not doing much (hence why i tend to not like the bow)

[runic parrot]

the bow is better when youre dashing all over the place

faster charging time

[eager flame]

yeah i heard so

i'm gonna try it when i can play again since i'm in a bow run rn

[lyric wharf]

Its dash > shot > dash > shot with the bow.

[craggy barn]

i also happened to have p.status so i just went with ||demeter|| on attack and sadly i didn't bother to count the numbers it was dealing

rest assured it was probably somewhere along 1k+

[opaque narwhal]

Hi I'm new I would like to say to supergiant that game is awesome.enjoy your day 👍

[lyric wharf]

Even with slow charge bow you can still do perfect shot if you're good at dodging even if you may not do perfect shot all the time you have to adapt to the situation but you can still do perfect shot quite often.

[craggy barn]

with hidden bow it's special > attack > proceed to next roon

[runic parrot]

i dont like hidden bow, much prefer chiron

[eager flame]

i struggle with boss fights (specially the elysium one) since i get chased and i dont get a real chance to stand still and fire a perfect shot hahsh

[meager steppe]

I’ve only done one run with it but it is basically Chiron in reverse.

[eager flame]

yeah i'm using chiron's aspect

[lyric wharf]

Hidden bow is all about applying special to as much enemies as you can and then perfect shot on enemies that wont bother you much to do perfect shot in time.

[eager flame]

what's the best bow aspect according to yall?

[craggy barn]

hidden bow and chiron are like opposites

[runic parrot]

chiron with concentrated and relentless volley is just dang

that's good

[craggy barn]

chiron is attack > special and deals with single targets easily, while rama is special > attack and shines against multiple enemies

[lyric wharf]

I dont know if there's a best but Hera and hidden bow are amazing.

Hera is easy to use, hidden bow hard to use.

[craggy barn]

i got concentrated + relentless + heart rend on chiron and it is just 😩 👌

[meager steppe]

The bows are kinda unique in that they all play differently.

[eager flame]

i don't use the cast much so thats why i haven't bought it yet ahdhsjjd

[meager steppe]

Like SO much differently n

[craggy barn]

hidden bow is a bit difficult to use but if you can use it effectively it's so good

[lyric wharf]

The first and second time I used hidden bow I actually cleared both runs with ||EM4|| on and that was when I was still new to ||EM4||.

[eager flame]

ngl i don't know what ||em4|| is

[craggy barn]

have you beaten the game once?

[eager flame]

yeah

are those just abbreviations for ||heat||

[craggy barn]

yeah

[somber star]

stubborn roots or unshakable mettle

Both look good

[eager flame]

ah i see

[craggy barn]

they're pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies

[craggy barn]

stubborn roots isn't that useful except maybe if you die often and usually have no dds and unshakable is kinda boring but it's not bad

[somber star]

Ok, think I might go unshakable since I'm fighting ||Hades|| next

[lyric wharf]

The way Zagreus holds and attack with hidden sword looks so epic.

[eager flame]

ah that reminds me that when you hold spin attack with the spear and make zagreus turn in place, he does so balancing on one foot and it looks like ballet

it was hysterical to me idk why

[urban path]

zag is a graceful boy

[eager flame]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMJoG8NBf/

thats the tiktok hah

[somber star]

I've gotten to ||Hades|| 15 times

And I fail every single time

This game is going to drive me mad

[loud lintel]

Hera Bow with 8 bloodstones + scintilating feast is hilariously strong

[eager flame]

can't relate, 73 escapes and only 2 successful ones hah

[somber star]

Oof

[eager flame]

i keep trying cause the game is a blast though

[somber star]

Oh I meant I fail every single time sorry

[eager flame]

OH

[somber star]

lmao

[eager flame]

then it is relatable

[shrewd helm]

Did u try god mode @eager flame

[eager flame]

nah, i can get to ||hades|| easily, i just have to really nail down dodging

besides i'm determined to finish without god mode

[loud lintel]

get athena dash

it helps

[somber star]

Yeah getting to hades is easy

[shrewd helm]

I have a harder time dodging the bosses in elysium than ||hades|| attacks

[eager flame]

they used to beat me up real good but i've gotten used to asterius's attacks

[shrewd helm]

One of my runs I did so horribly but somehow won cause I had a 4th death defiance from chaos lol

[eager flame]

you have to censor his name 😳 spoilers

the times i've gotten my whole run screwed by the ||green wave attack thingy that you can't dodge when hades hits his second phase...||

[shrewd helm]

I thought u could dodge that

[eager flame]

really? maybe you can and i've never realized

i'm not the best at the game as i just play for fun but I joined this server to try to not totally suck HAHA

[real gate]

Dash over it and you shouldnt get hit

[eager flame]

ooh, i see 😳 thanks

[real gate]

Anytime

[somber star]

Would you guys say fated persuasion or fated authority is better

I'm thinking persuasion but

[desert meadow]

I use persuasion

[hollow hawk]

persuasion 100%

[eager flame]

i use persuasion too

[desert meadow]

I find it's more useful for getting certain boons or well items

[hollow hawk]

unless youre doing a meme run such as max gold, max health or a farming run such as getting more darkness or gems or whatever

then you use authority

[somber star]

Aight

[desert meadow]

Yeah

You do get less rerolls with FP, so grab keys if you can (provided you did that work order)

[real gate]

I never tried fated persuasion

[eager flame]

i used authority for a while before realizing the benefits of persuasion

there's something satisfying about using it when you only get standard boons and then getting an epic one

[craggy barn]

when you reroll and the god offers you the same boons but with worse rarities

[real gate]

I used authority alot more lately while giving nectar to people

[hollow hawk]

i use persuasion because it allows me to actually go for the build i want

[hollow hawk]

just reset run lol

[desert meadow]

mood

[craggy barn]

when you reroll and the god offers you a duo boon but it's different from the one you actually wanted

[hollow hawk]

and pretend like your pc crashed

just like papa haelian taught me

[eager flame]

hahaha bad luck at its finest

last time i used it when athena only offered common cast boons and then she gave me her epic god call

[desert meadow]

I will say, the amount of times I've rerolled and gotten something better then the first three picks is sadly not over 10 yet

[hollow hawk]

inb4 you reveal that youve only done 2 runs with fp

[eager flame]

athena's epic god call with hermes's epic god gauge fill per 1 second is a kinda op combination

[desert meadow]

I did get one of Athena's restore a DD boons using a reroll once, that was helpful

[eager flame]

best god calls according to u guys? i like athena's and dionysus's ngl

[desert meadow]

Aphrodite on bosses, Zeus on close range weapons, Artemis is just useful, and ||Demeter|| is good too

[craggy barn]

zeus/arty/aphro are my top tiers

[unborn remnant]

Aphrodites is hilarious

[desert meadow]

Athena's is also good, since buffing the call's time does extend the greater call time too

[craggy barn]

arty and aphro are amazing boss killers and zeus is just really nice all-around

[eager flame]

aphrodite's is sooo fun

[desert meadow]

^

[craggy barn]

athena is A tier at best

[unborn remnant]

Sorry bot

its just a thanos snap

[desert meadow]

I'd say Ares and Poseidon are probably the weakest ones, I don't like taking them tbh

[unborn remnant]

thesus just says "guess i'll die"

[craggy barn]

aphrodite's call is like "you can charm enemies and turn them to your side but also if your gauge is fully charged i'll literally rip them to shreds in an instant"

[eager flame]

ah yeah, i don't really like ares's because of the lack of control you have over it

[urban path]

oh I didn't know her greater call was good

[eager flame]

poseidon can be op in the right circumstances though

[urban path]

lmao

[desert meadow]

It also doesn't let you keep attacking while using it

[unborn remnant]

yeah you could charm enemies or hit them for 2500 damage

[desert meadow]

Unlike Athena's

[desert meadow]

true, but it depends

[unborn remnant]

up to 3600 with privileged status

[craggy barn]

aphrodite's greater literally just deals an absurd amount of damage and sadly you can't upgrade the damage with poms so i basically never use poms on it

[unborn remnant]

if you could pom it itd be broken

[desert meadow]

^

[craggy barn]

arty feels the same but also works great on multiple enemies

[eager flame]

i once got his epic tier god call, upgraded it, and dealt 500 damage each time i ran into an enemy

[desert meadow]

You could end up oneshotting half of Theseus' health if you could pom it tbh

[craggy barn]

but you can pom arty 👁️ 👄 👁️

[unborn remnant]

@desert meadow you can one shot half his health without the pom

if you have privileged status

[desert meadow]

Eh, close

[craggy barn]

poseidon's call is a nice mix of offense/defense but is pretty bad if you don't pom it later on

[unborn remnant]

otherwise he gets very low

[desert meadow]

3600 isn't half of 9000

[eager flame]

ah yeah totally

[unborn remnant]

ok its not half

but I usually pop it at the start of his phase 2

[desert meadow]

Yeah

[unborn remnant]

and he dies instantly

I thought he'd have 7000 health

[eager flame]

f*ck theseus all my homes hate theseus

[desert meadow]

Nope, Theseus is 9000

[unborn remnant]

for real?

doesnt feel like it

[real gate]

Theseus was a pain the first time I fought him after that I dint know why hes been easy

[somber star]

Yeah

[eager flame]

hes not that hard after you get used to his attacks but he's so annoying hah

i just like trashing him for the funnies

[unborn remnant]

the elysium fight isnt hard

its just annoying

[desert meadow]

Meg is 4200, Alecto is 4600, Tisiphone is 5200, Hydra is 5940, Theseus is 9000, Asterius is 14000 (11200 if you defeat him as a miniboss before the arena), the one styx boss is 10000, and the final boss is 17000x2

[unborn remnant]

it used to be really rough before I got better

[desert meadow]

Yes, I have this memorized for some reason

[unborn remnant]

i didnt know there were differences in the fury hp values

[eager flame]

oh hardest fury in you guy's opinion? idk why but for me its alecto

[desert meadow]

Ikr, Tisiphone goes down so fast

[unborn remnant]

There's no other way to beat him

[craggy barn]

alecto

[desert meadow]

Alecto

[craggy barn]

we do not stan alecto

[real gate]

My buddy told me to handle asterius first then theseus but I find it easier doing the reverse

[unborn remnant]

If you can bm him you should

[craggy barn]

tissy is so easy because she dies in like 10 seconds

[desert meadow]

I prefer Asterius first cause dealing with both while Theseus calls for help is annoying

[unborn remnant]

yeah

[eager flame]

exactly

[eager flame]

i feel like its just easier to hit her because she stands still in a small space for most of the time, and her attacks are easiest to dodge

[unborn remnant]

I want to beat thesus with ||bouldy||

it just sounds so funny in my head

[hollow hawk]

i actually prefer to do that

to kill both while the call is ongoing

[real gate]

I need to finish getting my last 3 achievements

[craggy barn]

i'd like to one day apply a bunch of massive damage boosts then kill theseus with bouldy in one hit

[hollow hawk]

you can usually dodge the circles pretty easily and then dash strike

[ivory geode]

im glad ||td|| pauses while in npc rooms because otherwise i wouldnt be able to hear this rendition of in the blood....

[eager flame]

HAHAHA oh to kill theseus with bouldy

[hollow hawk]

loll that song is something else

[unborn remnant]

You know now that I think about it

A charon ||companion|| would be very cool, but the dude cant talk so

[hollow hawk]

ooh yeah

||companions|| are the relatively most unbalanced thing in the game

after arty's max call, that is

and after ME fists

and after hunting blades i guess

[craggy barn]

arty's greater call can range from "meh" to "881 damage per crit"

[desert meadow]

If you can just wail on her, yeah, for sure

[hollow hawk]

meh i guess those last three are kind of intentional and balanced

[eager flame]

imagine you're fighting zagreus and suddenly you hear a "hoaouhgghhhhhh..." and the dude that sells you groceries appears to hit you over the head with an oar

[hollow hawk]

i once got like 3500 something damage from it lol

[unborn remnant]

"Um.. Charon?"

[hollow hawk]

lol

[desert meadow]

I need this now

Someone make a comic or something

[craggy barn]

i love when you kill theseus with ||battie|| he's like "Damn you... IT'S HER!!"

[unborn remnant]

What would some other good ||companions|| be

[real gate]

I remember getting theseus to where hes calling for help and then using the arty greater call and him just disappearing

[ivory geode]

i was gonna be like how does he know her but then remembered That One Time

[hollow hawk]

nyx companion that makes all enemies blind for x seconds lol

[unborn remnant]

That'd be cool actually

[hollow hawk]

flashbang in hades kek

[unborn remnant]

Id rather see a Blind mechanic on a new god though

[eager flame]

does hypnos have a companion?

[unborn remnant]

He doesnt

[craggy barn]

that's just REDACTED's aid

[hollow hawk]

apollo pog

[hollow hawk]

true

[unborn remnant]

this

[hollow hawk]

yeah, he has one named zagreus

[unborn remnant]

LMAO

[desert meadow]

His would put them all to sleep? If the dead can sleep

[eager flame]

HAHAHAHA

[real gate]

Hypnos is like the one person I havent given more nectar to since getting the keepsake

[eager flame]

maybe not sleep but i was thinking it could make them immobile for a few seconds

[desert meadow]

That could work

[hollow hawk]

same tbh

[brisk trail]

Hypnos was the first person I got full hearts with

[unborn remnant]

Apollo would be such a sick god to add

[brisk trail]

I just love him so much

Agreed agreed

[hollow hawk]

you dont say

[desert meadow]

I went for Artemis first

Then Ceberus

[hollow hawk]

i havent maxed any god yet lol

[unborn remnant]

And the god of fire whos name starts with an h

idk how tf to spell it

[hollow hawk]

i focused on characters i liked first

[ivory geode]

hephaestus

[unborn remnant]

Hephestus?

[brisk trail]

Hephaestus

[eager flame]

I LOVE APOLLO SO MUCH IN MYTHOLOGY that i was fairly disappointed when i found out he wasn't in the game

is that a spoiler? should i tag that

[real gate]

Oh yeah and Cerberus I didnt give him any

[unborn remnant]

nah

[hollow hawk]

no

[brisk trail]

More than anything I just want stuff with more Hypnos

I have issues and yknow what

[unborn remnant]

He would give you attacks that inflict blind, maybe some cool aoe stuff?

[brisk trail]

That’s okay

[hollow hawk]

hypnos seems such a boring character to me tbh

[unborn remnant]

I dont know if we're gonna get new content

[hollow hawk]

idk

[unborn remnant]

if we dont, thats ok

[hollow hawk]

no one does lol

[brisk trail]

Yes totally okay!!

[hollow hawk]

probably not even the devs themselves

[brisk trail]

It’s a great game already but one can dream (:

[unborn remnant]

Its just fun to speculate

Modding community might take matters into their own hands

[brisk trail]

Yess

[unborn remnant]

code new whole gods into the game

[brisk trail]

I play the switch version tho big pain

[craggy barn]

hypnos' aid - reminds you that you still have 3 prophecies to fulfill

[desert meadow]

LOL

[eager flame]

tbh i enjoy hypnos as a character! i think he has untapped potential and he's kinda funny

[brisk trail]

YES

[unborn remnant]

at least theres cross saves

[eager flame]

i just want good things for hypnos

[unborn remnant]

Hypnos just radiates this energy that I dont know how to describe

[real gate]

I was really shocked to learn I had over 100 hours

[unborn remnant]

Trying his best?

[brisk trail]

I take Hypnos’ advice as his actual genuine advice tbh

I don’t take it as him being sarcastic

[craggy barn]

hypnos' greater call creates a list that's just "dodge, dodge, dodge, attack, attack, dodge, dodge"

[brisk trail]

Yeah

[unborn remnant]

very surprised that there's no god that gives zag fire though

[hollow hawk]

nah just tells you current enemies' names

[desert meadow]

I mean

[hollow hawk]

there is??

[unborn remnant]

a burn mechanic would fit so well

[desert meadow]

Fire in Asphodel is kinda redundant

[unborn remnant]

there is?

[hollow hawk]

have you not reached end game yet

[unborn remnant]

i mean like

I have

but I meant for the gods

[hollow hawk]

theres this region where you can step into lava

[craggy barn]

i like to think hypnos tries to give genuine advice and doesn't know that he isn't helping in the slightest

[unborn remnant]

"Your attack inflicts burn" or something like that

[hollow hawk]

and theres this whole burn mechanic

[unborn remnant]

That's what I mean

[eager flame]

1. dodge
2. dodge
3. attack
4. dodge
5. don't die!

[hollow hawk]

(i was joking lol)

i knew what you meant

[unborn remnant]

oh

[desert meadow]

It'd be hard to tell fire effects from you apart from the lava of Asphodel tbh

So I can understand not having it

[hollow hawk]

that is true

[unborn remnant]

fair point

[real gate]

Is there a god that yall just dont like getting boons from

[hollow hawk]

and also from the bodies of some enemies

[unborn remnant]

demeter

[craggy barn]

athena

[hollow hawk]

like wretches in tartarus

[eager flame]

that could be apollo's thing since he's the god of the sun and stuff

[hollow hawk]

that have like orange bodies

[unborn remnant]

no offense demeter fans I just never have any need for her boons

most of the time

Rare Crop is nice though

[hollow hawk]

i like every god

[unborn remnant]

same

[craggy barn]

nourished soul is also cool, especially with chthonic vitality

[real gate]

I don't like getting Poseidon or zeus

[eager flame]

really? i find her boons to be the most useful

[craggy barn]

zeus is very meh but he gets the job done

[brisk trail]

I like demeter on spear attack

[hollow hawk]

you talk like someone who hasnt ever done a sea storm build

[desert meadow]

I find everyone good for something

[craggy barn]

his boons are meh except for his duos

[real gate]

A what

[unborn remnant]

Yall those videos where "x smash bros game" is broken?

[hollow hawk]

its a duo boon between poseidon and zeus

[unborn remnant]

One of those for hades would be pretty funny

[shrewd helm]

I like ares when I use the spear. I usually hope I get the boon that does more doom dmg if its built up

[hollow hawk]

that makes it so that each time you knockback foes, you do lightning damage to them

[real gate]

I think I've gotten it before

[desert meadow]

He's also music, so maybe his boons give you super bright music notes to stun enemies eyes and ears

[real gate]

Yeah I've had it before

[hollow hawk]

lmaoo i want that

[eager flame]

i like demeter's god call but thats about it, i don't necessarily hate her but i wouldn't pick her over the other gods

[craggy barn]

oh boy i can't wait for someone to make ANOTHER "||beowulf|| is OP" montage with obnoxious music and excessive editing

[hollow hawk]

or another CHIRON BOW SHREADS THROUGH BOSSES

also spoilers bois

we're in discussion

[real gate]

I like dionysus but only for his support stuff I dont actually like the hangover stuff

[eager flame]

every 5 apollo boons he annoyingly sings the next dialogue

[hollow hawk]

hangover is good with poms that support it

[eager flame]

^

[desert meadow]

Y e s

[hollow hawk]

hangover+hidden rail is just the game on easy mode

[craggy barn]

hangover doesn't diminish when being hit with several poms which is good

[eager flame]

also seeing dionyus is just pleasantly hilarious- maybe I'm just biased