Interesting
#h1-discussion
harsh lotus
OK yeah ill probably get it at some point but I don't really like it's damage taken debuff
Bc I'm bad lol
hard crag
Yo, where do i put Nexus files in the hades folder?
plucky brook
not sure how many people mod here - might be better to ask here - #self-promotion message
fickle osprey
which channel can i send a screenshot
plucky brook
if it's of you beating the game, #h1-victory-boasting
maiden belfry
which channel can i send a screenshot
probbaly none, but if you upload it a image hosting site (imgur works) you can psot the link
plucky brook
I just died to redacted and I feel bad, take me back to when I was new and I was excited to just reach it
manic bobcat
Same tbh
plucky brook
just such a careless run
deep parrot
is there a discord for the speedrun community of this game?
prisma wind
Yes, it's pinned in #self-promotion
deep parrot
mfg noone is repling to what I am saying in the speedrun discord
are all the speedrunners americans or smtn?
meanwhile I am an american awake at 1:50 am
prisma wind
A lot of them are, but there are also a fair number of international folks
It's also a smaller discord server than here, so less people around all the time
hushed pumice
Many of the players in Heat strategies can casually do sub 10 runs
So it is also a good place to ask
deep parrot
Many of the players in Heat strategies can casually do sub 10 runs
wdym
do you mean sub 10 min?
prisma wind
As for your question that you asked there, yes it's generally recommended to unlock most if not all things, but not required. At minimum you should try for a maxed mirror
If you really want, though, they do have saves with everything unlocked already that you can get
deep parrot
nah I wanna experience the game
prisma wind
worldly canyon
When does the game not time you?
spice hearth
when you're on your Codex, when paused, during Shop Screens, Thanatos rooms, Fountains, NPC rooms of the top of my head
also right after a boss and in between Zones
brazen lagoon
Picking boons too
frank meteor
I tried 2 runs with the sword...died 2 times
Aegis...and I'm flying through
:residentzag:
worldly canyon
I have the most clears with the shield so far
pseudo halo
Shield is a certified wheelchair weapon
worldly canyon
3 of 6 or 7 I think
pseudo halo
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worldly canyon
Being able to block attacks is just too good sometimes lol
frank meteor
I can block!?
worldly canyon
Redacted's laser cries a little tear when I bring the shield
pseudo halo
Redacted's laser cries a little tear when I bring the shield
Even better when you block Theseus's spear throw
worldly canyon
The charge attack, bull-rush, raises the shield and makes you immune to all attacks in the direction you face
Theseus is a wee guy and I love messing him about with the shield
frank meteor
Looooool
Never used bull rush.
I like hurling it. There is a rythm wherever it hits
worldly canyon
I use bullrush sometimes but honestly I mostly use it for the block
frank meteor
Lol I don't know how I could really be blocking all this time
All this time a could av blocked lol...I'll stick with my rythm game
hexed shore
Hp is a resource
pseudo halo
Game doesn't care if you escape with max health or 1hp
acoustic plank
Bull rush is a triple whammy. It moves you, it blocks attacks, and it does damage.
Everything you need.
you could probably do a meme run where you only bull rush and do nothing else.
not even move
spice hearth
you can add GUN with a Hammer
pseudo halo
Hammer upgrade that lets Zag dual wield
unkempt sleet
But then you don't move with bull rush
rapid forum
You can turn your shield into a bow with steroids
spice hearth
best with Beowulf, then it becomes an actual cannon
acoustic plank
^
novel wasp
glockinator
frigid roost
hello
spice hearth
hello aespi
frigid roost
just joined the server
spice hearth
Welcome to the Underworld!
frigid roost
i don't usually play games but im loving hades so far
spice hearth
Hades is amazing especially for newcomers to games, I'm finding
frigid roost
i was surprised to find a discord link on the title page haha
ngl i absolutely suck at it though
acoustic plank
My girlfriend seemed interested and she only likes Animal Crossing and like, the Sims.
I'm going to introduce her if I can ever stop playing myself
frigid roost
ohh yeah you should
most of my games are all mobile bc i don't have time to sit down at a console/computer
but i used to play dota, and all its knockoffs
so.. i kind of died at the controls in hades..
spice hearth
ah, are you playing on controller or keyboard?
rebinding the controls to soemthing that makes more sense for you is a really good idea
it's the first thing i did tbh
frigid roost
i play on the keyboard
i'm used to clicking to move, but it seems like its not possible to remap hades like that
acoustic plank
It took me about 10 runs to find a control system I liked
spice hearth
ahhhhh right right
acoustic plank
I'm picky though
spice hearth
not used to WASD i take it?
maybe a controller would be easier for you? Joystick is more natural to some people for movement
frigid roost
yep. it took me like 15 runs to stop trying to walk around by clicking
just muscle memory ig
spice hearth
yeah pretty much
acoustic plank
A diablo style click to move system would be interesting
spice hearth
most people who play PC have grown up with WASD so sometimes its easy to forget how unintuitive it is sometimes
rapid forum
If we can click to move, it opens up playing hades with one hand 
hexed shore
What do you do with the other hand
acoustic plank
yep. it took me like 15 runs to stop trying to walk around by clicking
Some people with accessibility issues use right/left click to dash, and it helps them. Might be an idea.
hexed shore
Degenerates
acoustic plank
I just checked the modding community and there's nothing there. Apparently it's very difficult to implement
hexed shore
All the mods right now are more or less, ez mode LUL
acoustic plank
Yeah I haven't installed any
hexed shore
Except pony's mod ofc
pseudo halo
I tried KBM on a bow run
hexed shore
Pony's mod is a gem
pseudo halo
No thanks
hexed shore
Kbm on bow seems fine though?
pseudo halo
"Fine" isn't good enough
spice hearth
the auto aim is alittle fiddly on KBM
pseudo halo
2/10 would not bang
spice hearth
that might be why
rapid forum
Ye
brazen lagoon
i'd use controller if i could but
a) i dont have one
b) i suck at using controllers
hexed shore
Can you aim a different direction and dash on controller?
spice hearth
yes afaik
frigid roost
the amount of times i tried to dodge an attack by clicking to move, only to attack at nothing and then die
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brazen lagoon
KBM player my whole life
some games are alot better with controller
like celeste
i could not play that game with KBM
rapid forum
My left hand can't keep up with what I wanna do on the keyboard
pseudo halo
Yeah I'm totally down to play say, Wolfenstein or DOOM with a KBM
But for games like Enter the Gungeon, Celeste, Hades, controller feels way more natural
frigid roost
my thumbs feel empty on hades
hexed shore
I thought rail and bow would be best on kb
brazen lagoon
tbh i think using KBM is perfectly fine in hades
frigid roost
But for games like Enter the Gungeon, Celeste, Hades, controller feels way more ...
i'm considering buying it on switch for this reason
acoustic plank
WASD is just kind of inadequet for this kind of game and the movement you want to do
brazen lagoon
or maybe i just got used to it
acoustic plank
it can get very bullet hell-ish
pseudo halo
You can get used to any garbage control scheme if you wanted to
frigid roost
im on run 40 something and still havent beat the game
acoustic plank
im on run 40 something and still havent beat the game
That's totally normal
spice hearth
oh that's fine
frigid roost
i keep forgetting HOW TO MOVE
spice hearth
just keep going at your own pace
brazen lagoon
i keep forgetting HOW TO MOVE
how lol
spice hearth
you'll get it eventually
timber sparrow
Then you would love some afk boons
spice hearth
he;s not used to WASD and keeps trying to click move like in DOTA
timber sparrow
amirite guys
brazen lagoon
lmao i see
frigid roost
im not v versatile
i didnt play anything on PC except for MOBA games
so my brain is only used to 1 wway of controls
timber sparrow
That made me feel good btw I completed the game at run 27 or something
hexed shore
Isn't there a dash at cursor option
brazen lagoon
ye
craggy barn
binding dash to lmb is a really weird thing to think about as a kbm player
timber sparrow
Anyone here plays with special on right click
pseudo halo
Hard pass
frigid roost
i should try that
spice hearth
only way to play
pseudo halo
By default I play Hades with controller 100%
spice hearth
/ s
timber sparrow
A certain strimmer with the name of soda poppin plays that way
spice hearth
oh lmao, me too
hexed shore
Idk why you wouldn't special on right click
craggy barn
i should try out binding special to rmb and cast on q
hexed shore
It's the only logical way
spice hearth
yeah
craggy barn
and maybe summon on... z?
frigid roost
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spice hearth
it's basically, light attack - heavy attack
craggy barn
what's "mb4"
pseudo halo
but im broke lol
You can see about getting a cheap 3rd party controller that's capable of steamplay/xinput
Shouldn't cost you more than $20 but keep in mind
spice hearth
what's "mb4"
the 4th mouse button
pseudo halo
You get what you pay for
brazen lagoon
what's "mb4"
the extra buttons on the side of some mice
frigid roost
i don't play any other game though so idk about getting a controller just to play hades
hexed shore
No, no summons
Summons are a mechanics introduced to remind you that you forgot to use them after you lose
craggy barn
i only have a lame generic mouse with two buttons and a scroll wheel 
spice hearth
now that's a hot take
timber sparrow
It can't even be considered to be a spoiler topic because summons don't exist
hexed shore
Summons are just there to make you feel good about gifting too much
craggy barn
i'd say ||companions|| are late-game enough to be a spoiler
pseudo halo
Summons are just there to make you feel good about gifting too much
Gifting too much he says
opaque radish
It's 2 AM
I really want to play more. Lol
Hmm what if you just kept dying early on?
brisk trail
hi
shy estuary
Don't forget about transistor
lost remnant
On a normal run you only get 4 gods to assist you right? (Besides hermes). If I purge the boons I got from a god will it have the chance to get a different god?
crisp skiff
Got a question but its post game stuff so im gonna cover it up. ||Struggling to get the last heart to unlock for Poseidon. Looking at the wiki I've caught more than enough fish, Ive also tried catching a fish on a run THEN getting a Poseidon boon but still nothing. Any ideas why its not unlocking ?||
brazen lagoon
||you caught a super rare fish yet?||
crisp skiff
Ohhh No I havent is that a requirement ?
brazen lagoon
Yea
warm bramble
||you caught a super rare fish yet?||
||is it the one of that can be found in Hades' boss battle?||
||i'm also struggling with his Poseidon's favor||
brazen lagoon
||is it the one of that can be found in Hades' boss battle?||
You can catch it anywhere
crisp skiff
Ahhh perfect ! Thanks for your help @brazen lagoon Much appreciated
brazen lagoon
Super rare fish can be caught in any area
brazen lagoon
Ahhh perfect ! Thanks for your help <@!772748979423150081> Much appreciated
Np
You need to be really quick with catching it to get it
warm bramble
||i caught Stonewhal and Scyllascion||
crisp skiff
||Also struggling with Zeus's heart but I guess I just need to keep playing and see more dialogue about him..||
warm bramble
||Also struggling with Zeus's heart but I guess I just need to keep playing and ...
||yeah, it requires affinity of other gods||
brazen lagoon
||i caught Stonewhal and Scyllascion||
||You need to catch at least 25 fish I think||
Have you done that yet
warm bramble
i have more than 100
warm bramble
well i did write in #h1-tech-support
what about ||Aphrodite's favor?||
||i have Than, Meg and Dusa at max||
warm bramble
Yeah -_-
primal seal
brazen lagoon
Semi regularly I guess
They took a small break during the holidays so the next update will probably take a while tho
burnt breach
Pony's mod is a gem
not sure which one you meant but thanks!
hexed shore
Pony's QoL
burnt breach
I just checked the modding community and there's nothing there. Apparently it's ...
only accessibility type mod released so far is my colorblind assistance mod
burnt breach
Pony's QoL
yeah that's what I assumed
brazen lagoon
Aphro special arte attack
earnest trench
Whats a "fast time" with twin fists? follow up question, how to a push Cerberus lore?
swift violet
Do you mean like speedrun fast or normal person fast?
earnest trench
Both I guess, My twin fist clear is like 5 minutes faster than I can get any other clear
kindred fjord
Zeus has a cooldown, but for the memes, you can try ||Rama|| special only and try to have double strike/splitting bolt for lots of lightning
earnest trench
everything else sits at 22-23 minutes heat 4, twin fists is at 16
gritty roost
I like to focus on dash-strike for ||Rama||, so for attack, arty, or aphro for huge %damage
swift violet
All my runs are like 21 min
So idk what a fists run should be
Idk for me the dash strike feels so inconsistent for rama
gritty roost
also ||Repulse Shot|| hammer upgrade is trash š
swift violet
Sometimes it charges up quickly and sometimes it charges up normally
swift violet
also ||Repulse Shot|| hammer upgrade is trash š
lmao in one of my runs I clicked that bcs I thought it was good and it so freaking trashy
swift violet
Yeah sometimes that happens but it sometimes doesnt charge up quicker
gritty roost
yeah it's slight but could make a difference in hectic fight, normal took approx 1 year to charge up
swift violet
But it sometimes does charge up quickly as well
tacit ember
i think hermes would also make bows charge quicker right?
swift violet
Whenever I dash-strike, half the times it charges up quicker, and half the time it doesnt
tacit ember
maybe your missing the dash strike window
dire delta
the only two hidden aspects ive yet to bring to the final boss are bow and spear. I've got all the aspects unlocked, but im just really not a fan of either
gritty roost
I dont mind the bow, but for the spear im with ya
have yet to finish a run
||it's just too punishing||
dire delta
||the health penalties for guan yu really seem like too much||
swift violet
If you get charged skewer and use it with pierced butterfly it is really good
gritty roost
If you get charged skewer and use it with pierced butterfly it is really good
what boons you build it with?
swift violet
I dont remember but I think I put arty on the special
All you have to do is spam special
dire delta
tbh my fav weapon has always been Shield, aspect of zagreus
its the weapon I got my first clear with
swift violet
Mine is probably bow or rail
dire delta
rail is fun
swift violet
Got my first clear with rail
tacit ember
wit shild
dire delta
the shields special imo is kinda trash, but like, if you build it right, you can do a lot of damage
swift violet
my first clear was shield, and loathe it lol
I used to but for when I had to break out using all the weapons, I put doom on chaos shield and it was fun
dire delta
aphro and pulverizing blow has been a fav of mine recently
but Id use to run Minotaur Rush and Charged Shot
gritty roost
yeah doom on shield is borderline broken lol, in fact that was my first clear build
dire delta
cuz its a lot of damage and you're behind a shield almost all the time this way
swift violet
For shield I used the one where it fires a shot instead of a bull rush and the bull rush charges up faster
gritty roost
snipe snipe
dire delta
not minotaur rush
dire delta
minotaur rush gives your rush a 500% damage boost if you time it right iirc
swift violet
It was my slowest clear, but it was still fun
gritty roost
i'll try that sometime with zeus, the only shield aspect i can tolerate
dire delta
and the charged rush raises your damage to 80
dire delta
anyone kinda find the shields hidden aspect sort of disappointing?
swift violet
Its like hera but bad
twin moat
the shields special imo is kinda trash, but like, if you build it right, you can...
doom
dire delta
Like I thought the special would be something really cool, cuz it's very much not aerodynamic
twin moat
twin moat
but yeah, I was expecting something different
dire delta
so wait, it doesnt make blade vortexes where you land?
twin moat
Use dionysus cast
gritty roost
nope, on full charge it's slightly in front
gritty roost
by slightly i mean, about the distance of neighboring country
swift violet
Ares cast with hunting blades on achilles slapssss
I melted literally all the bosses
gritty roost
oo I like achilles spear
twin moat
I never use ares cast
swift violet
Its really good with hunting blades
gritty roost
if you can get hunting blades it slaps
dire delta
so, if you use Fists hidden aspects special trick and then apply doom, when the doom hits, does it trigger the fists dash-special effect early?
twin moat
for sticking it to an enemy
grave cloud
You don't use the Shield Special ever. Just block spam and you win
warm bramble
Yeah shield special is rly bad
robust viper
i dont get how to do big dps with shield, i mainly use bow and fists
grave cloud
Imo, there's no real ways to get high DPS with the shield, you're main goal is building damage buffs over dps buffs.
But there are some hammers that allow a double attack or faster dash strike
twin moat
am I the only one who thinks doom on shield special is great?
I was dealing like 600 damage to everyone having the shield bounce to everyone on screen
grave cloud
It's great, but in my opinion, a waste of a hammer.
gritty roost
I think you can shotgun chaos special, no?
grave cloud
You can just breeze through any run with shield block.
twin moat
yeah
but it is not as useful as it used to
before you'd throw shields to all angles
now just in front of you
warm bramble
Yeah double auto attack is the best upgrade for shield
brazen cloak
What made the team want to make hades
grave cloud
Meh, Minotaur Rush / Charged Shot and the faster charge are godlike
warm bramble
Charged shot is also rly good
twin moat
hm, idk
I was able to get my fastest time with doom shield special
but I guess everyone has their own playstyle
grave cloud
I still don't understand how people can go so fast with Eris Rail
I'm trying to understand it but I can't
twin moat
^ same
twin moat
What made the team want to make hades
You should watch the noclip videos
kindred fjord
You shot special, you move on the special aoe for damage boost
proven sleet
Does anybody use the green options in the mirror? I mean I read through them and most seem kinda...meh?
dire delta
i use a few
rich acorn
They typically have their own uses
kindred fjord
Some of the green ones are better
twin moat
only the last ones are kind of worth it
tho there are a few ones that are good from the beginning
dire delta
I use abyssal blood, family favorite, dark foresight, gods legacy, and fated persuasion
kindred fjord
I'm so used to play with stubborn defiance that I don't even know if i can play with death defiance
waxen juniper
Same
swift violet
Dont use stubborn unless youre at really high heat
waxen juniper
Stub D is pretty good and adds an extra challenge to the game
swift violet
For high heat it works really well
waxen juniper
I play stub D all the time and I am sitting around the 20 ht mark
kindred fjord
You can play SD on low heat, it teaches you to be better at end encounters
tacit ember
hello hello
swift violet
Yeah 20 heat plus for the average player(myself included) is probably the right choce
tacit ember
i am backs
swift violet
*choice
waxen juniper
It's usually a must have with Lasting Consequences. That's why it is usually recommended with high ht
chrome reef
guys im stuck on heat 10
no matter what i use i always reach heat 10
all the way from heat 1-10
but 11 seems impossible
with whatever build i have lol
winter harbor
Which pacts are you using?
spiral summit
This game is great guys
I had it pirated at first but bought it anyway because its just so fun and it felt wrong. Great job š
glacial veldt
I've been tempted to buy it again for cross save.
twin moat
Different platform?
ember jay
I had it pirated at first but bought it anyway because its just so fun and it fe...
mood, my friend gave me a copy, bought it on switch for them patches, then bought on steam for cross-saves
fewer purchases have made me as happy
spiral summit
yea i rarely buy a game that i already pirated tbh because the gaming industry sucks
but you can feel how much love they put in the game
very fun
glacial veldt
Turns out when your company treats its employees right you get an amazing quality game.
twin moat
Who would've guessed
ember jay
I am now pretending Hades is canon myth
ivory geode
ill tell you a secret theres no such thing as canon myth, theres like a million different versions of everything and we have no way of knowing which ones were considered the most "correct"
meager steppe
Except Cerberus being the Goodest boi. Thatās canon.
spiral summit
I mean there is no real correct right, its probably just all made up stories about gods
swift violet
Also the game isn't as expensive as other games
spiral summit
Just evolved over the centuries
swift violet
It is at a relatively cheaper price than most other games
spiral summit
and then written in text at some point
spiral summit
It is at a relatively cheaper price than most other games
yea its great value for its price, 20ā¬ is nothing
spiral summit
i usually consider a game worth if it pays its price in hours, so if i play a game that is 20ā¬ for 20h it was worth it
swift violet
When I bought it I thought it wasnt going to be that good bcs of the price but rn its my second favorite game of all time
swift violet
i usually consider a game worth if it pays its price in hours, so if i play a ga...
I got it 2 weeks ago and have 25+ hours into it
glacial veldt
I knew I had to get it when all of my Twitter feed was blowing up about it in the first week.
swift violet
I saw moist and pewds play it so I decided to try it out
glacial veldt
I like a lot of roguelikes even if I may not be the best at them.
swift violet
I have never played a roguelike before
spiral summit
the binding of isaac is super fun aswell
chrome reef
risk of rain 2 š
i think its the only multiplayer rogue-like
and with friends its amazing
twin moat
There's a mobile multiplayer roguelike
used to be good
now it sucks but
I believe that one was the first one
glacial veldt
My other fav is Dead Cells.
ripe sun
Is dead cells super super difficult, or is it more like Hades where you get lots of meaningful upgrades?
twin moat
you get lots of meaningful upgrades
that help you die a little more
lmfao
The game is difficult even with all the upgrades
glacial veldt
Hard to say. I can actually beat Dead Cells but I haven't beaten Hades, lol. You can buy some pretty bad upgrades but there are a lot of really good ones.
dull niche
dead cells felt harder to me than hades but i also have 400 hours in hades and uh. not 400 hours in dead cells
super fun game tho
twin moat
You can maybe beat dead cells consistently after the first time
until you uh
reach the equivalent of high heat in hades
upbeat sable
I prefer Heat a lot over how BCs work in Dead Cells
twin moat
I like bc tbh
dire delta
hades is the first roguelike ive played
twin moat
but I think 2 bc is too brutal compared to 1 bc
ripe sun
hades is the first roguelike ive played
same
upbeat sable
Heat is very flexible and the jump between BCs is very drastic imo
twin moat
That's true but
Dead cells is kind of supposed to be a really hard game where you die a lot imo
the bc brings you back to square 1
where you'll struggle just like you used to
glacial veldt
where you'll struggle just like you used to
I'll agree with ya on that.
First time I beat it, I struggled so hard on 1 BC because the regular difficulty had become so easy
dire delta
oh for gods sake
I was on a guan yu run, on second phase of final boss, doin well
then my computer green screens
so I have to force shut off
and all my run progress has been lost
twin moat
green screen?
dire delta
no
twin moat
His computer crashed so hard it went from blue to green
dire delta
my screen goes green, all audio goes BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
tacit ember
all the blue lights in computer broke
dire delta
and then it gets stuck then shuts off
twin moat
I think not
that is if it did a backup before
he lost his progress for the run
but not the save itself
trail pendant
Dead Cells are 9/10 for me
dire delta
my save is fine, its just the run I was doing got screwed
trail pendant
Dead Cells are 9/10 for me
hades has more replayability and is imo more fun
dire delta
its not that big of a deal in the end, i just wanted to vent lol
twin moat
I've played dead cells twice as much as hades and I'm not even close to a 25% done with the game
hades I'm pretty far in
twin moat
its not that big of a deal in the end, i just wanted to vent lol
dw, happened to me too
with a guan yu run as well
š
dire delta
i had a duo boon and hermes legendary that were both foretold in prophecy
twin moat
dire delta
would the seed theoretically be the same should I try again?
wicked onyx
is it possible to get deflect on attack and dash in same run?
loud lintel
when are artemis boons (attack, special, cast) worth it?
I get that they have crit chance but most gods have higher % increase modifiers
sterile peak
mostly all of the time unless its a common imo
most gods have higher base damage increase but artemis compensates with the very big numbers she can get through crits
dire delta
and if you get lucky with your poms you could bring it up to par
twin moat
hey guys! whats yalls favorite songs
||in the blood|| and out of tartarus
upbeat sable
||Unseen Ones|| is a banger
fleet narwhal
||its such a gentle theme.. until the guitars start screaming||
twin moat
||Unseen Ones|| is a banger
I agree
||also, am I the only one who thinks hades looks like zeus in the intro sequences that play sometimes before a run?||
merry moat
It should
upbeat sable
I know that choosing Artemis over Poseidon in a trial of the gods probably isn't the optimal thing to do because the wave is satan himself
but I don't want to hurt her feelings :(
twin moat
simp
warm bramble
now you don't have to deal with wave and you don't hurt anyone's feelings
twin moat
for some reason I was looking at my phone without knowing what to do, and I decided to open up spotify
WITH HADES MUSIC PLAYING ON MY PC
why did I even do that
austere jacinth
I find it very hard to side against Dio or Aphro due to personal biases. Ares is my fave--besides Hermes, who never enters the godly brawl--but Ares is the type to enjoy the fight regardless. So long as you don't pick Zeus.
steady gate
austere jacinth
Fires the beam at you. You don't take damage from it, but you can pull the beam wherever.
formal epoch
is there any worse feeling than ||missing a fishing spot in greece||
waxen juniper
Oof!
tacit ember
well
maybe i have something that comes close
i was had give Poseidon dome ambrosia, and i saw him in a styx tunnel
i was like yes i can do it this run
and when i got to him i accidentally picked up the boon instead of giving ambrosia
trail pendant
me and artemis
restive thunder
just a quick question, just got a new prophecy. ||the queen's plan, wants me to get closer to the olympians.
what's the minimal amount of nectar i can put into the gods to meet the requirements, i'm lazy||
tacit ember
give to all gods
drifting crest
Is it just me or ambrosia is hard to get?
fleet narwhal
just keep grinding those bounties.. its not that different from blood or diamonds
drifting crest
I haven't maxed Than and Dusa yet so I have to wait a bit for the rest
loud lintel
quick about the ares/aphro duo boon (doom continuously hits weak foes)
does this mean that doom lasts as long as the enemy is affected by weak
restive thunder
6 ||ambrosias?!|| cripes. i have literally 0 progress towards that.
fun times.
||who needs romance options anyways huh throws nectar at grandma||
drifting crest
And ||Dusa got fired so now I have to wait until she comes back||
fleet narwhal
does this mean that doom lasts as long as the enemy is affected by weak
id think so
loud lintel
so if i keep the weak status effect up, the enemy is essentially perma-doomed?
wicked folio
Guys how do I get dionysus last heart
fleet narwhal
gift ambrosia to people
wicked folio
Is there anyone in particular
fleet narwhal
no, but i forget the exact number
i know that its different people, not just total ambrosias
wicked folio
Everyone has at least one
fleet narwhal
||forging bonds with 6 characters and gifting 10 ambrosia in total||
wiki usually has favor info
acoustic plank
6 ||ambrosias?!|| cripes. i have literally 0 progress towards that.
fun times.
|...
||Join the ranks of olympus. Romance your own grandmother like a real god, Zagreus.||
wicked folio
Whats the best mirror setup
fleet narwhal
incest is wincest after all looks at zeus and hera
acoustic plank
Whats the best mirror setup
I hate to be that guy, but it depends on your build and your playstyle. There is no one best setup. Most of the pros switch their mirror every run depending on what build they're planning to use.
fleet narwhal
some of the best mirror setups for newer players are death defiance, thick skin, and dark regeneration
and in general too
acoustic plank
^ this. Mostly shadow abilities except for Dark Regeneration, and I think Sygian Soul is slightly better for new players.
brisk trail
I usually use all purple except for family favorite, dark foresight, and fated persuasion
acoustic plank
Fated Authority requires less initial dark investment but it is mostly worse, it just comes online faster. I switch Family Favorite and Privilaged Status around a lot.
fleet narwhal
fated persuasion is better than fated authority, in my opinion
you can really get a lot of them after purchasing the key upgrade from contractor
craggy barn
anywhere outside of late-game channels be like https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/761220441049661442/801164380799631401/unknown.png
acoustic plank
Truuuuu
manic bobcat
Lmao
waxen juniper
I just checked: after 222 escapes, I have a 49% clear rate!
tacit ember
wut
fleet narwhal
where do you see your clear rate?
waxen juniper
You see how many clears you have in the administrative chamber/the victory screen. Then you just divide that by the number of total attempts
fleet narwhal
ah, ok
waxen juniper
It'd probably be over 50 if I didn't do meme runs :p
tacit ember
yes math
waxen juniper
Yea, but it isn't complicated or anything
waxen juniper
im not complaining about math
Sorry, hard to tell sometimes. I hear people complaining all the time and it can get quite annoying :/
acoustic plank
im not complaining about math
I did the math. You're complaining. You can't say you're not cause you didn't do the math.
waxen juniper
I think he's messing with you
acoustic plank
Im messing with you
manic bobcat
Do you even long division bro
tacit ember
worldly canyon
restive thunder
was just running as normal and artemis ||gave me the line to unlock hidden bow aspect||, woot
restive thunder
agreed
restive thunder
i've already cleared the prerequisite for the fists, too. nice and convenient
restive thunder
Or is bouldy looking like he's doing a mini zoop hand gun
no i see it, kinda
worldly canyon
Bouldy is a big guy
crude musk
so how exactly do i fulfil the ārenovate the loungeā prophecy? do i have to buy ALL the lounge stuff?
manic bobcat
No, only some of it
crude musk
hrm okay thanks
worldly canyon
|| I find it mildly amusing that the prophecy list predicts Zag will escape, which also means it predicts Zag will end up back in the underworld to read that fulfilled prophecy ||
tacit ember
lmao
tacit ember
|| I find it mildly amusing that the prophecy list predicts Zag will escape, whi...
||well he dies when he escapes||
maiden belfry
the fates work in mysterious ways
worldly canyon
The Fates are always right. || Except that time with Zag's birth 
||
dire delta
doing a guan yu run, going terribly, makes me thank the gods for patroclus
tacit ember
lmao
dire delta
cuz he just saved my butt
waxen juniper
Patroclus does that sometimes
worldly canyon
Patrocolus is either clutch or kinda 'eh' depending on how a run is going
crude musk
whatās the best eurydice choice?
tacit ember
and u see him
its amasing
but if your doing good
its like
i'll take it because why not?
crude musk
btw if iāve got plenty of dds and i find patroclus i normally go for the +attack
worldly canyon
Oh boy I can heal a bit more for like... 3 rooms
Or hit a bit harder for like a few
crude musk
itās like 60% tho
tacit ember
but the attack/heal is pretty good
crude musk
and i usually find him near enough to the end that it helps w theseus and asterius
worldly canyon
Don't get me wrong they're good and I'll usually take a Patrocolus room over something else
waxen juniper
If you play stubborn defiance, Touch of Styx Dark is a must have!
Whenever you lose stubborn defiance, you restore 80% of health instead of 30%
crude musk
god the one time i got stubborn roots was so good
worldly canyon
I like stubborn roots tbf, it's just a bit too like a 'you screwed up here is your last chance'
Did come in handy for a really close shave against the final boss on one of my runs
opaque nexus
I need a hades meme based off the let's go meme but the text says "BOY" and zag is reacting to it, unfortunately Idk how to photoshop the spongebob text
worldly canyon
Bet you wish you had stubborn roots now 
dire delta
demeter has not shown up at all this run
worldly canyon
Damn
waxen juniper
I like stubborn roots tbf, it's just a bit too like a 'you screwed up here is yo...
It's much better with stubborn defiance
crude musk
i havenāt seen aphrodite in like half a dozen runs
worldly canyon
It's much better with stubborn defiance
Is that the alternative to 3 DDs on the mirror? Don't know that I've used it
waxen juniper
That's because you aren't using her keepsake
waxen juniper
Is that the alternative to 3 DDs on the mirror? Don't know that I've used it
That's the one!
worldly canyon
What does it do?
waxen juniper
So if you die in a room, you restore 30% health. This ability refreshes every room
crude musk
that seems... less useful
waxen juniper
So it's a bit like having infinite death defies but limited ones
Precisely it
crude musk
bc i tend to die in two places: elysium boss and (occasionally) styx boss
waxen juniper
No, stubborn defiance is usually used in high heat runs where they can no longer heal. I use it because it's just a solid resource
crude musk
ah
waxen juniper
bc i tend to die in two places: elysium boss and (occasionally) styx boss
As I said, if you get touch of styx dark, you restore 80% health instead of 30%
That is big!
crude musk
iām still doing rly low heat runs
worldly canyon
I think I'll keep using DDs for || Hades || but I see why it could be useful
waxen juniper
I am usually chilling at 20. But people consider high heat to be 32+
Tbh, I just really like stubborn defiance.
worldly canyon
Me too Emma
crude musk
iām working my way up to eight for the smelly prize thing
waxen juniper
I also always have Hard Labor 5 on because I am a maniac
worldly canyon
I am quite enhoying the heat system though
Get a weenie bit miffed when I ha to do 0 heat for weapons I haven't cleared with
waxen juniper
For sure! I tried Jury Summons 1 for the first time yesterday and it really threw me off my game
crude musk
hard labour is like. okay but i play video games to have fun, not to struggle
waxen juniper
The challenge is fun for me.
crude musk
my current run is jury summons 1 and benefits package 1
waxen juniper
Also, the game gets much much easier over time, so hard labor helps fix that
crude musk
yeah for me itās just frustrating š
crude musk
i might try it next time
i wanna get the BP prophecy
although tbh i havenāt really noticed a difference
waxen juniper
Turn on Benefits Package 2. The Prophecy will happen very quickly
crude musk
i got like half of them in a single run
waxen juniper
although tbh i havenāt really noticed a difference
Sometimes it is barely noticable, but othertimes it just kicks ya in the teeth!
crude musk
so hopefully iāll get most of the others this time
waxen juniper
Witches with Cloner+Speeder is a disgusting combination that deserves to burn in a fire!
crude musk
oof, witches
i also did extreme measures 1 for fun and the only real difference i noticed was the triple furies fight
waxen juniper
It's easily the most painful experience for BP
crude musk
or is that one per rank for each area?
waxen juniper
Yes. Extreme Measures changes the fights of the bosses. If you have EM 1, it changes the first fight, EM2 changes the 2nd fight as well, and so on
crude musk
hmm
crude musk
i honestly hate the hydra fight because itās boring as heck
waxen juniper
Then... put on EM2
crude musk
i probably will soon
waxen juniper
The fight itself doesn't change much. Well.....
crude musk
i wanna build up for the rewards
maiden belfry
em3 is when the pain starts
crude musk
i still need to do a no heat run with the spear ugggh
maiden belfry
waxen juniper
You can climb as much heat as you want while still getting the rewards
Yes, EM 3 is painful, and EM4 is Hell on earth!
maiden belfry
you should def do em3 at least once for the laughs at first
waxen juniper
For sure
crude musk
a significant portion of my runs is devoted to swearing at theseus tbh
waxen juniper
Then EM 3 will be a great experience for you!
crude musk
my fave pre battle dialogue is āasterius. other guy.ā
maiden belfry
thats all theseus deserves
crude musk
that and āwhat couldnāt heracles do it?ā
crude musk
which hades is SALTY about and i love it
maiden belfry
tfw heracles is only a god partly bc hera breastfed him
and then uhh, got a bit toothy
and thats how we have the milky way now
crude musk
greek myth is a wild ride
also how do i get past the locked hearts? i assume i gotta hit the magic ten clears for Plot Purposes
maiden belfry
each charachter has thier own favor that you have to complete
sweet basin
crude musk
ah okay
iām at the lock for cerberus, achilles, sisyphus and nyx atm
i assume achillesā is tied to patroclus
maiden belfry
cerb's is easy, achiiles sisyphus and nyx are all tied to prophecies
crude musk
ditto orpheus/eurydice
maiden belfry
cerb is jsut ||give the good boy lots of pets||
maiden belfry
||20 of them total to be exact||
crude musk
i have been remiss in|| petting the goodest of boys!||
restive thunder
cerb is still the only character i've maxed my bond with
and absolutely worth it
maiden belfry
if you get the achievment for it, youre halfway there~~
worldly canyon
Cerberus deserves the treats
waxen juniper
I need help thinking of a meme build I haven't done before (I've done a lot).
maiden belfry
whats the most "this is broken" meme build youve done
waxen juniper
I have. It's not very fun tbh
waxen juniper
whats the most "this is broken" meme build youve done
Also, I really don't know tbh
crude musk
if i want to gift thanatos do i have to do it before i pick up either reward?? bc he nopes out when i snag the chamber reward OR the āyou winā centaur heart
maiden belfry
or run into him in the house
crude musk
iāve seen him in the house... twice? three times? and ALWAYS in conversation with someone else so i canāt gift
crude musk
i got the first meg scene in the room tho so iām getting there!!
maiden belfry
šļø
crude musk
my gifting priority is basically meg and than > patroclus and eurydice > house regulars > gods
tacit ember
i think i have answer
topaz yew
whats your answer
topaz yew
my guy
tacit ember
right?
topaz yew
so its a compounding ?
tacit ember
bruh
its 100%
22%
78%
the first .22
is the chance for the first floor
the .78*0.22
is the chance on second floor
and the 0.78x0.78x0.22 is third floor
i think this is right?
topaz yew
ummm
maiden belfry
GOD every time i try a butterfly run
topaz yew
you should also divide it by chances of meeting him
maiden belfry
HEY ||ALECTO||
tacit ember
what is chasces fo meeting him
topaz yew
Like on an average run you encounter him 5 times not including the last area
tacit ember
im just going by numbers some guy sayed
so idk
isn't there always 3 mid shops per floor?
worldly canyon
Do the Than and Hermes keepsakes stay active if you switch away? Like if I got the damage boost would I keep that or would it stop
ivory geode
no they do not
ivory geode
so i was looking for refs of someone pulling back a bow while holding it sideways like zag does with coronacht but couldn't find any
and found out that it's because no one shoots a bow like that irl
maiden belfry
Why would the bonuses be active if you dont hvave the item that gives the bonus equipped
topaz yew
@tacit ember if you were to multiply the percentage by 100 to get the base of 52(%) then divide it by average encounters per run then divide youd get a more accurate percentage
if it was really that high youd get to fight him every other run
topaz yew
so your real percentage is 8%-11%
tacit ember
so like for me that would be 0%
topaz yew
Lmfao
tacit ember
because i dont take mid shops
topaz yew
for your math
You did it right
its just a set base
How many times do you encounter Charon per run if you include mid shops
for the first its 2 for the 2nd its 2 then 3rd is 3 because of the mini boss and the 4th i dont think counts
so in reality 2 + 2 + 3 = 7/52(%) = 7.5% chance
and i dont think its also based off when you see him
It probably pre generated per run
tacit ember
wut where 2 come from
topaz yew
the 2's are from encounters per floor including mid shops
tacit ember
proceed
topaz yew
so im going on a limb saying that when you start a run its already generated the fight chance and if you skip a mid shop you also possibly missed a chance
this includes the 3rd floor having out friendly mini boss so you can encounter him a 3rd time instead of just twice
fleet acorn
"if you include midshops"? i mean, if you don't include midshops the chance is 0% lmao
topaz yew
No like AHHHHH
tacit ember
big brain
topaz yew
what im saying is
the shops when the run starts already generate which do and dont have ||a boss fight with Charon|| excluding item chance
and with the math we have above
the chance of actually fighting him is 7.5%
and its also room chance
tacit ember
topaz yew
if you go to 4 out of those 7 shops
your chances are the same however
cause you skipped a possible room
restive thunder
observations: every time i use aspect of talos, the game becomes hellbent on giving me nothing but poseidon boons
topaz yew
then go full Splash daddy
tacit ember
so
topaz yew
ive done it with zues
tacit ember
some guys in new player chat sayed
its easy to test someting
i sayes
wait! you have to construct a hypothesis first
i dont think he was very amused
restive thunder
how do i make the most out of pulling my enemies into attacks when they get knockbacked away
topaz yew
are you going twin fist?
tacit ember
you can do a yoyo thing
manic bobcat
Hypothesis: You can't test if this sentence is true.
topaz yew
i was gonna say
tacit ember
i was making haha funny
topaz yew
If you could go for the Ares ability on your right click and try to grab the vortex
you be able to constatly fling
manic bobcat
Yank n Yeet is a meme build, don't do it expecting things to synergize
manic bobcat
Get OP stuff to make a bad run mediocre is favorite pastime in vidya game
crude musk
i actually found magnetic thing and poseidon special fun
pull āem in, slam āem immediately into a wall
manic bobcat
Realize what?
tacit ember
the meaning of life
tacit ember
eternal peace
maiden belfry
i hate that im right
manic bobcat
Is this a Jojo reference
tacit ember
i know
maiden belfry
yes and im upset aboutit
topaz yew
Honest to god ||Demeter|| and Dion are a god damn power house combo
tacit ember
how is jojo not dead yet
crude musk
i love my wine bro dionysus
topaz yew
my favorite passive is the ||chill stack then explode its so good for damage and aoe||
topaz yew
lmfao
yeah but that with Hangover
your literally god tier
and get aphrodite duo you got about 8 stacks
maiden belfry
i learned the other day hangover makes stacking god gauge trivial
topaz yew
unless you have artemis
manic bobcat
People use literally figuratively so often that they changed the meaning of literally xD
tacit ember
theres a video on youtube making fun of it
tacit ember
which one ( im so funny i know)
crude musk
i got hazard bomb as an option on my first eris run
crude musk
[looks directly into camera like iām on the office]
tacit ember
hazard bomb actualy works with eris
the buff aoe is slightly larger than the damage one
i tested once
crude musk
apply directly to the forehead?
tacit ember
an yes
manic bobcat
Erm yes
tacit ember
bomb -> forhead
topaz yew
OH
this is probably really funny
but
i found a hilirous interaction with Aphrodite and ||Hades||
so during the fight i had the special her and i also had the thing where its literally up every 3 seconds
so evertime he special casted i just used her and it always canceled his abilities
it was hilarious and its how i beat him with the bow
maiden belfry
does chiron bow put doom on each hit or just each time you hit special