h1-discussion

[hexed shore]

I tried 16 heat once

[distant night]

alma no

[rapid forum]

I really lucked out

[hexed shore]

Never again

[vapid narwhal]

16 is easy

[distant night]

16 is decent

[vapid narwhal]

like, not distinctively different from 0 easy

[rapid forum]

Chiron bow, arty on special, relentless volley and concentrated volley

[distant night]

20+ really makes you feel like your bum is on fire for some reason

[vapid narwhal]

the only hard part is ||EM3|| and that's it

[rapid forum]

Fought final boss perfect

No hit

Thought I was losing myself

[distant night]

||em3|| isnt hard

just ignore beyblade over there

[vapid narwhal]

||EM3 is a bit harder than non EM dad||

[distant night]

only the beyblade

theseus is easier than non-||em||

[rapid forum]

2 dashes can iframe the beyblade

[vapid narwhal]

Theseus basically doesnt exist on ||EM3||

[floral flame]

The main goal for me is just 100% achievements, and I think the highest || heat || needed there is 16, so~

[distant night]

||fo2|| beyblade tho if he gets lucky with the vases

[vapid narwhal]

yeah all achievement only requires 16

the hardest part of all achievement is actually ||beating Charon||

[hexed shore]

I wanna be able to say that 16 is easy

[floral flame]

Oh I did that already

[hexed shore]

But right now I can't even beat fo2 final boss

Consistently

[rapid forum]

I mean yea, but my damn brain went "hmmmm why not go all the way"

[vapid narwhal]

why do you want to hurt yourself by ||using FO2 on something like 16||

[distant night]

spoiler damnit

[floral flame]

I think the hardest for me will be using the stubborn defiance in the mirror, because I normally die at least twice at || Hades ||

[hexed shore]

||I'm 6 heat fo2||

[distant night]

cause it gives insane amount of levels

[vapid narwhal]

dont use anything other than ||EM1 and 2 for low heat lmao||

[hexed shore]

||Also because em4+fo2 is exactly 16 heat||

[distant night]

why doesnt anybody spoiler ||heat|| rn oh mygoddess

[vapid narwhal]

there are MUCH easier combination of ||16 heat than that||

[hexed shore]

This is 100% brain power

[plucky brook]

I accidentally came across this fight... oh my word that was brutal, I used all 3 DDs

[hexed shore]

Plead or riot

[distant night]

we just had a newb here wtf was that

[vapid narwhal]

I tried that once and I was like what the hell is this thing

[distant night]

like all spoilering braincells just went out to target for some cheetos in asphodel style

[random ice]

My first time was in tartarus and I had a similar experience to you it seems

[plucky brook]

yup, also in tartarus

[vapid narwhal]

trying him in tartarus is big yikes

[plucky brook]

I got the W, and finished the run cause hidden sword is broken, but damn it was brutal

[distant night]

tartarus secret boss hurts so bad

you just have no build at all

[vapid narwhal]

||and he takes you out in like 2-3 hits||

[distant night]

true you also dotn have centaur hearts

[plucky brook]

I absolutely ||loved the dialogue after though, zag being like "we good mate???" and nyx saying that he likes us more now||

[distant night]

bro-nding

also love the talk about it afterwards

[plucky brook]

aight I feel like trying to do a zoomy fists run, should I go zeus attack or merciful end

[distant night]

gosh the whole dialogue in this game is awesome

[random ice]

yeah it's great fun as is the dialogue around the card

||the discount card I mean||

[distant night]

it pretty

[random ice]

gosh the whole dialogue in this game is awesome

[distant night]

does it actually have any additional status effect if you have ||cf2|| on?

[random ice]

What do you mean by status effect?

[distant night]

like some additional message

like all the health stuff does if you have any points invested in ||LC||

[random ice]

Ohh I'm not sure sorry. But I wouldn't think so cf2 shouldn't apply directly to the card

[distant night]

i dont think it does apply to it but i'd love an additional message to it since it makes that ||heat|| a bit less "severe" so to say, also spoiler my friend

[upbeat sable]

Pressure Point+any Doom is such a stupid combo what the hell

[craggy barn]

wait so pressure points also affects doom?

[upbeat sable]

Yep

[craggy barn]

i wonder if it also procs on dot effects

that'd be pretty scary

[upbeat sable]

It states any damage

[loud lintel]

Just unlocked ||aspects|| and am unsure of which one/s to invest ||Titan blood|| into. Any tips or suggestions?

[brazen lagoon]

What weapons do you use the most

[loud lintel]

melee mostly. i think im most comfortable with shield -> Sword/fists -> spear -> ranged

[hushed schooner]

aspects arent a spoiler

only the 4th ones

[brazen lagoon]

hmm then you might wanna get chaos/zeus for shield, nemesis for sword,and demeter for fists

[loud lintel]

ah myb, didnt unlock aspects until after my first clear so i thought it might be considered spoilers

[hushed schooner]

yeah unlokcing all the weapons isnt really spoilers

[loud lintel]

I only have 12 TB on me rn, would it be a good idea to unlock an aspect for each weapon first or to focus on fully leveling an aspect first?

[brazen lagoon]

you might wanna try unlocking one first, then if you like it you can upgrade it a lil bit

try going for 1 aspect per weapon first

[loud lintel]

If I get a boon that modifies my cast (ares blade rift, dio fog, etc.)

do i essentially lose the benefits of boiling blood?

since bloodstones cant be lodged into enemies anymore

[hushed schooner]

yeah

but all those types of casts have their own duo boons

that make them more specialised

and stuff

[loud lintel]

ah i see thanks

How does Athena's "deflect makes enemies exposed" boon work with her dash boon?

do i have to deflect attacks to get the exposed effect

or will just damaging them with dash make them exposed

[hushed schooner]

i think

its just damaging

its abilities that defelct right that causes expsoed?

[loud lintel]

yeah the exact wording is "Your abilities that Deflect also makes enemies Exposed"

[hushed schooner]

yeah

you just need to hit with it then

no need to deflect

[random ice]

Yeah it has really good synergy with any extra backstabbing damage as you can just dash through them and shank/shoot/punch them in the back. Parting shot fits even better as another athena boon

[loud lintel]

yeah i managed to get the 200% backstab hammer upgrade

[ornate bear]

Imagine getting multiple chaos backstab boons as well

[loud lintel]

its impossible to backstab certain enemies right?

stuff like butterfly ball for example

[ornate bear]

I think so, and the snake crystals too

[rapid forum]

ye

which is why I don't like them

[keen loom]

same

[rapid forum]

can't kill them any faster

[keen loom]

For snake crystals it should be the opposite side of where theyre firing

[ornate bear]

I tried but I don't think it counted. I can take another look though

[rapid forum]

nah it doesn't count

[keen loom]

Id imagine it would be hard to program though since its entirely reliant on where its firing

[rapid forum]

I pick the logical route cause they look the same from every angle

lel

so they have no back

so to speak

[ornate bear]

That should be spoilered

[still latch]

Ill just delete it entirely then

[weary horizon]

Hey

Any way to unblock some trophies block with cross saves ?

[hushed schooner]

wdym

[swift violet]

Butterfly balls were the most freaking annoying thing when I was starting out the game

[floral flame]

Same. They're literally sent from hell

The armored butterfly ball used to get me every time

[hushed schooner]

thats not a spoiler but yeah

those things are so bulky

[floral flame]

Ahh ok

It's hard to know what's a spoiler sometimes

[hushed schooner]

anything past the surface

including stuff to do with the final boss and anything limited to unlock after that

[supple lodge]

can you imagine how powerful thanatos would be if he made bad puns

"Did you hear about the Underworld? There are people dying to get in there"

[loud lintel]

damn, had a good build that i was sure would get me a clear

got overconfident and used 2-3 DDs on 1st phase and then died on 2nd phase at 15%

[hexed shore]

It's funny cause when I started butter balls were super easy

Now I lose defiance in ball boss room

[craggy barn]

something that makes you deal more damage to armor is basically essential for minbosses

[supple lodge]

butterfly ball be like - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1

[hushed schooner]

yeah

[fleet narwhal]

butterfly ball be like -3 -3 -3 -3 -3 -3

[tender oxide]

I have a proposition for a new curse of chaos:

For the next 5 encounters, every enemy is replaced with a butterfly ball

[fleet narwhal]

i mean if every enemy was a butterfly ball it wouldnt be that difficult

unless youre on a time limit or something

[tender oxide]

Lots of butterfly balls at once would be pain

[trail plover]

Weird question- is there Hades merch?

[weary horizon]

Would be so nice

[trail plover]

Seriously. I would want to buy out the whole shop.

[prisma wind]

Yes, on the Supergiant store

[trail plover]

Take my money, Charon.

[hexed shore]

reasons to love hades spear:

deletes butterflies ez pz

need i say more?

[prisma wind]

https://store.supergiantgames.com/

[trail plover]

Reasons to love Athena's Dash Deflect:

Deletes everything

[ornate bear]

I want a Dusa plushie

[tender oxide]

Yes

Needs to happen

[weary horizon]

Everything is almost sold out :/

[trail plover]

Cerberus plushie when.

[weary horizon]

And that hades poster is ugly. Seriously

[trail plover]

I like the poster and the t-shirts.

[weary horizon]

There is so much more to do with hades

Artemis poster whenn

[trail plover]

Well, when considering merch, there can be limits depending on the provider.

[supple lodge]

Hypnos plushie

I need hug him

[tender oxide]

We need pins or magnets with all the little icons you get for maxing relationships

[trail plover]

It's not always as easy as "this is the design I want for my merch".

[weary horizon]

I know

[craggy barn]

ah yes. me, my boyfriend, and his 6ft hypnos plush

[supple lodge]

i like the Hades poster but there's this big empty space up there that makes me think there should be text in that spot

[trail plover]

You could easily compensate for that with a frame.

[hexed shore]

Life size hades so you don't need a bed

[brazen lagoon]

Life size hades would be massive lol

I'd assume zag is around 5'6 or 5'7 like the average height

And everyone else is just a giant

[hexed shore]

Yea enough room for you and life size nyx so you snuggle into mommy's arms and fall asleep

[brazen lagoon]

Not just her arms tho

[tender oxide]

[prisma wind]

Supergiant is a relatively small team, so having a large array of merch all at once can be a lot to manage. There may be more down the line (hopefully), and I'm sure the store will be restocked on the items that are sold out as soon as they can

[brazen lagoon]

There's so much possibility for merch

Think of the things they could sell

[trail plover]

I might make my own hades plushies when I get home. ^^

[brazen lagoon]

Why'd you delete bro

Don't be shy

[hexed shore]

fine

dio mousepad when

[trail plover]

It's a clean server. :P

[mint forum]

Dem pecs

[brazen lagoon]

Nyx mousepad when

[hexed shore]

dem thighs

[supple lodge]

Pec mousepad... you might be onto something

[mint forum]

Yuh

[supple lodge]

but yeah i guess it's time to make my own squishy stuffed toys

[hexed shore]

man nyx just has that energy about her that even aphrodite cant match and aphrodite doesnt even wear clothes

[supple lodge]

hypnos mousepad but in front of him are 2 round small shades

[brazen lagoon]

Can we get our very own whip and harpy feather duster

Maybe even a scythe

[slate jetty]

You know, if Dusa is in the kitchen, her dialogue portrait aligns so well with the statue in the background that it makes it look like the statue is her body
https://imgur.com/hsM3JeA

[hexed shore]

thanachos is canon sorry

[supple lodge]

blursed

[hexed shore]

any other than merch is not accepted

[trail plover]

No Than merch? Why not?

[hexed shore]

.

read both the messages

[brazen lagoon]

What would you put on thanachos tho

[craggy barn]

ah yes

thanachos

[hexed shore]

lots of love

[craggy barn]

the death nachos

[brazen lagoon]

They're deadly delicious!

[hexed shore]

they're so hot, you wouldnt even notice the chemistry between than and zag

[supple lodge]

They have chemistry? /j

[tacit ember]

yes

[supple lodge]

🍞 🥖 🫓 🥐 🥯 🥙

what thanatoast shall i have today

[brazen lagoon]

A thana-toast to us all!

[supple lodge]

🍷

[brazen lagoon]

I can imagine zag saying that and meg just cringing internally while than is unamused

[supple lodge]

than hits his foot on a table corner, he stubbed his thanatoe

[mint forum]

Hgddsnjy

Why am I laughing

[brazen lagoon]

Because thanatos jokes are the pinnacle of comedy

[supple lodge]

we joke about death to cope with the inevitability of death

[tacit ember]

=/

[brazen lagoon]

If thanatos heard us saying these jokes I'm sure we'd be thana-toast!

[tacit ember]

[supple lodge]

related

sometimes i call him thanabros

[brazen lagoon]

When I see thanatos plushies being sold: get me ten-a-those!

[mint forum]

pain

[tacit ember]

yes

this joke is so dry

[brazen lagoon]

Then you better make sure it gets a thana-soak

Ok I'm sorry I'll stop now

[bronze wind]

Just bought hades yesterday it is so good!

[mint forum]

Glad you're enjoying it!

[keen totem]

I'm wheezing x'D

[swift violet]

Yeah I was hooked after like the first 15 minutes of playing

[waxen juniper]

Any advice for a revenge build? Or is it just all revenge all the time?

[mint forum]

I think you also take centuar hearts and damage reduction

But I have no clue on hiw revenge build works

[tacit ember]

get zeus

and aris

vengfull mood with athena holy shild is pretty nice

[supple lodge]

zeus revenge lightning is so good lmao

[waxen juniper]

Why is it everytime I get doom I get a 'chained' hammer 😆

Got the revenge duo in tartarus!!

[uneven canyon]

Poseidon only gave me the choice to have a Legendary fishing boon lol

[brisk trail]

If I buy a Bluetooth joystick, can I play this game on my tablet with Steam Link?

Cause that would be pretty lit

[waxen juniper]

Yep! You are on the special fishing run

[tacit ember]

its a story thing

[tacit ember]

why not?

could work

[waxen juniper]

Wow! I think this is my first ever no hit on ||tiny rat||

[hoary zealot]

hi, im curious if anyone knows are there any spoilers in steam achievements?

i know same games have them

[brisk trail]

I haven’t checked but considering how flawless the game is, I doubt this would be a flaw

[waxen juniper]

The only thing is Skelly's 2nd statue. But that doesn't mean anything until you see it

[hoary zealot]

thanks

[uneven canyon]

im watching a hades letsplay

someone mentioned that hermaphrodite comes from hermes and aphrodite having a kid, never realized that

[lyric wharf]

I got doom on bow special and I didn't expect it to be that good, clearing room fast and I killed Tisiphone in EM really fast, using special when she throw projectiles in circles around her not only protect you against the incoming projectiles and damages her a lot at the same time from doom damage.

When there are a lot of enemies I can just apply doom on all of them and then attack the ones with higher hp.

[waxen juniper]

Yep. Doom on non chiron special is pretty good

[lyric wharf]

Clearing room fast enough to get Hermes keepsake bonus.

Yeah every aspects but Chiron bow.

Unless you dont attack before special but that would require additional planning, wouldn't be too hard to set up tho.

I'm gonna try to get the most doom damage I can.

[waxen juniper]

Having doom+dire misfortune on a chiron special can be pretty good though

[lyric wharf]

That would requires focusing on one enemy only.

If Chiron bow.

[waxen juniper]

Well, once you get dire misfortune of course

[lyric wharf]

But yeah that sounds really interesting.

I really like doom on bow special because it allows to take out the low hp enemies fast and focus on the higher hp ones.

[waxen juniper]

That is a nice bonus

[lyric wharf]

Yeah, I keep getting fast room clear on Hermes keepsake.

[waxen juniper]

ayyy nice! Lambent Plume is fun

[lyric wharf]

Fast clear on Lernie just now.

[hushed schooner]

epic

whats your percentage

[lyric wharf]

I'm with Hera bow and I actually use more special than cast.

[hushed schooner]

so far

[lyric wharf]

18% at the moment.

[runic agate]

E

[hushed schooner]

ooh

thats good

gl

[lyric wharf]

That's 15 fast room clear.

Thank you.

[runic agate]

E

[lyric wharf]

Doom on bow special is so much more better than expected, I heaitated to take it but I wanted to try it out.

EM Learnie btw, I'm on EM4.

[hushed schooner]

yeah its great

doom is great on low damage spammable moves

(like shield throw)

you know what i should do

once i level up my zeus shield

curse of pain zeus shield

[lyric wharf]

Yeah, fast to apply doom.

[hushed schooner]

• dire misfortune

[runic agate]

E

[lyric wharf]

That's gonna hurt a lot.

[hushed schooner]

i already did drunken flourish

on my first zeus run

[lyric wharf]

Is there a limit to the number of curse you can apply with dire misfortune ?

[hushed schooner]

dont think so

until doom hits i guess

but there probably isnt a set limit

but in practise its how fast you can apply

[hot mauve]

okay, i have a question

the first time you enter ||greece and meet persephone||, when you die and go back to the underworld and hades doesn't acknowledge the fact you escaped, is he lying or telling the truth that he doesn't recall dying when you beat him?

[lyric wharf]

I killed Theseus while he threw his spear and the spear just stood there even after he's dead lol.

[hot mauve]

added a spoiler just in case lol

[hushed schooner]

i think hes lying

[lyric wharf]

I only lost 1 DD against them.

[tender oxide]

||He’s lying||, and mark your entire message with spoilers for people that haven’t got their first clear

[lyric wharf]

Too proud to admit it.

[hot mauve]

yeah, i should have done that before i edited, my bad

[weary yacht]

im not sure if talking about this is allowed or not, but does anyone know of a virus free way for me to be able to use a PS3 controller for steam games aka hades=

[red forge]

What are some boons that go well with spear of Achlies, in your guys opinions?

[subtle veldt]

Isnt there like legit software which can do that pr easily

Controller to keyboard type of deal

[weary yacht]

steam already accepts PS4 xbox one and nintendo switch pro controller, but ive searched and searched and i cant find anywhere that i can use a PS3 controller

[lyric wharf]

I went to phase 2 against ||EM4 Hades, I almost killed him but I know there's a phase 3, phase 2 felt easier.||

There's still a lot of work to do but I think that playing with bow was easier than spear even tho I play better with spear.

[deep oasis]

Greg is playing Hades
I wonder how far he ever got

[bronze wedge]

I have a hades question

But its more about like, future development

Or maybe its more of a supergiant games question o.o

[narrow hemlock]

scarlet crush, it's what I use to use my ds3 with any game i play controller with

unfortunately i am running errands currently and can't help you more than that but i play hades just fine that way

[waxen juniper]

I feel like I am actually becoming a better player with 100% hard labor. It really forces you to minimize your mistakes.

[bronze wedge]

Okay, question Probably / maybe doesn't belong here but- w/e lol
Is there any talk or plans for Hades to implement a Multi-Player Mode- either couch co-op or online.

I ask simply because that would be absolutely amazing to hang out with a friend and do an entire run working together. It would absolutely add a timeless longevity for me that goes beyond running thought the narrative again.

[errant lagoon]

I have more than 5 titan blood invested into the rail, the thunder signet maxed out, and all aspects of the rail unlocked and Zeus still won't give me the Lucifer aspect

[waxen juniper]

Go to the faq's. In short, it's not happening @bronze wedge

[waxen juniper]

Patience

[tiny tundra]

||Oh, yeah, that thing where Hades refused to acknowledge that you beat him confused me, too. I was not going to be happy if there was sort of time loop. I’m glad he was just being proud and disingenuous.||

[waxen juniper]

If a tree falls in the woods and no one hears it, did it make a sound? 😉

[gray jacinth]

That got deep

[tiny tundra]

||I wonder what Hypnos’s record says about how Hades and Zagreus died. I know it redacts Hades’s name if he defeats you.||

Hypnos wasn’t there after my first clear. 😔

[waxen juniper]

Then let's hope he is there for your next one

[shy steeple]

I have now 100 hours playes. And still see new stuff. I'm having such a blast. Laughing at moments, enjoying the gameplay, loving the writing. Man, oh man. What a game.

[worn horizon]

It's truly a one of a kind game

[lethal panther]

thats what i thought too

[lyric wharf]

At 80 hours here and there's still so much to do, I'm not gonna stop playing anytime soon.

[lethal panther]

||he calls it Natural Causes||

[waxen juniper]

Heat really makes the game worth coming back to

[hexed shore]

Natural causes is different

||dying to hades is redacted, dying after beating hades is natural causes||

[outer aspen]

Any K&M players tried switching special to shift instead of q? Might be a gamechanger for me

[waxen juniper]

Worth giving it a shot

[hexed shore]

Just use mouse buttons for special and cast and reload

Stop harassing yourself

[outer aspen]

Like, middle mouse button? lol

[wind oar]

No, like m4 and m5

[hexed shore]

Gamer mouses rise up

[waxen juniper]

That requires people to have more mouse buttons :p

[hexed shore]

But if you have three keys use special on right click and cast on middle

[outer aspen]

I'll give it a shot, though I still have 63 hours of muscle memory built up already

Q as special is pretty uncomfortable admittedly

[wind oar]

It is

[waxen juniper]

Yea, muscle memory is definitely an issue.
That's why after playing controller for so long I can't play KB+M for this game.

[wind oar]

Especially if you also have to dash

[hexed shore]

Never used special or cast on keyboard personally

I'm unbinding my muscle memory from reload on keyboard to reload on mouse currently

[wind oar]

It was smooth for me because m4 is also reload for me in EtG

[acoustic plank]

I used to use right/left for attack/special, middle for cast.

Then I got a good mouse and use M4 for cast and M5 for reload.

[wind oar]

M4 is honestly probably better for cast, cause it's more often than not that you have a cast than the gun.

[acoustic plank]

I usually don't manually reload either, except when I'm using that one aspect

But I also have yet to win with Rail so don't take that as advice for rail

[wind oar]

Is it a good idea to bind dash to shift?

[acoustic plank]

I tried and couldn't get used to it. Pinky finger is too slow.

Cause with 3 dashes and a good dash damage build, you're dashing a lot. Been a while since I used my pinky a lot in GH3

[ashen parrot]

I just wish the blade's special came out faster

[brisk trail]

||arthur|| or in general

[waxen juniper]

You can special almost instantaneously

Just special and then immediately dash

It is much faster than a normal special

[deep oasis]

Can the developers for the love of Hades put another warning on the store page how this game is basically crack cocaine?

[lyric wharf]

Another EM4 ||Hades|| fight lost toward ||the end of phase 2.||

[swift violet]

Lmao

[ashen parrot]

My point is that there's a split second between 'pressing Q' and 'shockwave AOE' when using the blade

[waxen juniper]

You're getting there!

EM 4 is hard!

[lyric wharf]

Yeah, I still need to learn more about the fight.

[hushed schooner]

only need chaos defiance boon

then ill have got all their boons

[waxen juniper]

Nice. That legendary is a pain, not gonna lie

[brisk trail]

EM3 final is a push over, EM4 I die with godmode turned on

[lyric wharf]

There's a prophecy for Chaos boons too ?

[brisk trail]

i usually kill final without losing even one DD on EM3

EM4 is rough

[lyric wharf]

EM3 is crazy at first yeah.

[brisk trail]

EM3 isn't even that bad imo

[waxen juniper]

Well final boss isn't affected for EM3

[brisk trail]

I think 2nd and 3rd are easier in EM3

[lyric wharf]

I lose only 1 DD at EM3 lately.

[hushed schooner]

i somehow didnt lose a dd to the last champions fight

[rotund nacelle]

what happens when your timers runs out? the one you activate in the pact of punishment?

[hushed schooner]

i was on 5 health at the end and took way too much damage at the start and only went in with like 100 health originally because uh gems instead of 50 gold healing fun

[waxen juniper]

I think I'm playing only stubborn defiance now. So 1 DD is quite a lot to lose

[brisk trail]

high heat?

[waxen juniper]

Only 17, but I'm liking stub D

[hushed schooner]

(probably should be spoilering alot of this)

[rotund nacelle]

Do you die or do you lose a death defiance when your timer runs out?

[waxen juniper]

Heat is not a spoiler if there is no context

[hushed schooner]

ok

i think you take damage every second

until you get more time

[waxen juniper]

It's basically really fast poison.

[rotund nacelle]

oh. that's not good

welp I gotta kill Theseus and Minotaur in 1:30

[waxen juniper]

That should be manageable

[rotund nacelle]

I'm starting to regret the 9 minute timer

[hushed schooner]

gl

|| td1 is very easy to do once you get it fast enough||

doing runs that is

but yeah gl you can do this

[lyric wharf]

You lose health periodically, 5 per like 2 seconds or so.

[rotund nacelle]

That didn't go too well

So uh what should I turn on for 1 heat? I don't think the timer was the right choice

[hushed schooner]

uh

well if oyu havent got that timing down yet

|| extra hearts 1 ||

|| just gives everything immunity to a single hit nothing really game changing by itself in heat ||

[rotund nacelle]

there are a few boons that give extra damage for the first hit

[hushed schooner]

dont use them then

[brisk trail]

extra enemies is easy

extra speed of enemies is also pretty easy 3

[waxen juniper]

100% hard labor. Go big or Go home!

Usui, you are also good at the game. Your definition of easy is very different than others

[brisk trail]

thanks for the compliment 😄

[hushed schooner]

|| fo is not easy||

[hoary zealot]

||l finally got Orpheus to sing ||and it's really beautiful

the voice actor did an amazing job

[hushed schooner]

yeah

[knotty cypress]

wait bounties are only up to 19 heat?

[waxen juniper]

I think it's 20

But yes, it does indeed have a cap

However, there's not much need for there to be any more

[warped forge]

Any DLC announcements?

[waxen juniper]

No

[mint forum]

Could you not

Please

Some people might have epilepsy (like me) and just can't look at that

[hot flint]

you can delete this

[solar basin]

Is there a player request page/discussion? I've been playing a lot of Hades in the past 10 days and I'm looking at what kind of update/DLC might be in store. I'd love to have a Horde mode where players get to test different builds.

[manic bobcat]

Now that Early Access is over, what's next?
Once we're sure our v1.0 launch has settled, our small team will be taking a break to recharge, and plan what's next. We'll be excited to say more about what's in store for us just as soon as we're ready.
From #hades-faq. Given the way SGG does things, they probably won't announce anything until close to the release of DLC, if they even decide to make one. As for new suggestions, I think major changes are very unlikely to happen. We had a feedback channel in Early Access but it has been repurposed to be for balance testing mostly since 1.0 Release. I think you would have better luck looking into mods of the game rather than official support.

[polar fox]

I got dialogue stating I was on my 20th run- still haven't beaten it. Feels bad

[manic bobcat]

That's p normal

[thick dove]

I have made it all the way to the gates but have not beaten it yet.

[manic bobcat]

Imagine how many times you died to beat Dark Souls

Hades is a hard game. Don't fret

[thick dove]

Beating the boss in Elyseum finally made me so happy lol.

The Hades Spear has done well for me.

[polar fox]

Thanks 👍 thought most people beat it quicker

[mint forum]

Naw

[manic bobcat]

Nope lol

[mint forum]

Have fun m8

[polar fox]

@thick dove seriously, first try on that boss I used spear, he had SLIVER of health left then I got greedy and got destroyed.

[thick dove]

I usually use the Harpy Feather Duster but have experimented with Thans butterfly for ultra greedy runs.

[polar fox]

Since then it's just been bad luck, but have been experimenting with boons and using the +darkness weapons so getting a bit more comfortable in knowing what I need

I think I unlocked that today, forgot to check it

[mint forum]

Ooo

Glhf fellow escapist

[plucky brook]

Key part is just have fun tbh

Its an expansive single player game, who cares if it takes 10 or 100 clears

If you're learning and having fun each run, that's the best part

[polar fox]

True. Just one more run.. just one more! 3 hours later..

[plucky brook]

Aye

[waxen juniper]

Turns out 100% hard labor is hard. Who would've thought?

[hushed schooner]

laboru

[bronze wind]

My weapon of choice is the shield

[manic bobcat]

PvP Hades

Would be fun

[winter harbor]

But Zag hits for like hundreds while usually he doesn't have more than 200 something hp

[manic bobcat]

Zag Sword only, no boon, Tartarus Chamber 14

Skillz

[hushed schooner]

shackle?

[lethal panther]

Zag sword, 2 minute Tartarus, 4 minute asphodel (slow i know) 7:30 elysium, got 5 tunneled in Styx and gave up on timing myself that run

[bronze wind]

Anyone have a good way to avoid lava in asphadel or whatever it is called

[lethal panther]

dash less

you get a lower damage rate but if your building cast it shouldnt matter too much

Take athena boons that resist trap damage

[bronze wind]

okay thanks

Dusa is so annoying

[austere jacinth]

Aww, I think she's sweet.

She's not my favourite, but I love pretty much all the characters. Dusa just wants to do well at her job.

[plucky brook]

dusa is just fan girling, let her be

[hushed schooner]

shes not annoying

leave her alone

[waxen juniper]

I am doing over 3000 damage with a critical hit on doom 😎

[lyric wharf]

I went to ||phase 3 of Hades||, that was so crazy, I died at 40% left of his hp.

[waxen juniper]

You almost did it!

[lyric wharf]

Yeah lol I'm close.

[waxen juniper]

You can do it!

[thick dove]

Leave Dusa alone she's my fav

[iron bay]

uhh if I wanna ask for advice on unlocking a character's heart thing whilst being spoiled as little as possible, what channel would that be?

[waxen juniper]

#h1-story-discussion

Just ask what you want and leave once you get an answer

[iron bay]

okiii

[waxen juniper]

You can also just spoiler tag your question here and we can spoiler tag our answer.

I'd just like to point out that there are no duos that improve chill.

[tiny tundra]

||Does Hades have a third phase? I beat him, and he only had two. Or, at least, he had two health bars, which I assume correspond to the two different phases.||

[waxen juniper]

He does in EM4

[tiny tundra]

Pog.

[hushed schooner]

time to use demeter fists for the first times

(is that a spoiler considering you can get them before the surface?)

[waxen juniper]

Nah. Plus, demeter is something that gets mentioned all the time here.

[hushed schooner]

just doing a darkness farming run

[mint forum]

O

GL

[ebon grove]

is the "in the blood" song just another version of the main theme? seems very similar

[hallow gate]

This is my favorite game ever

[narrow lotus]

a greatly polished and fun above all game!

props to developers!

[tiny tundra]

I don’t love it quite that much, but it is a very good game.

[ebon grove]

Honestly it might have killed roguelike because i don't see how you can top this

[lyric wharf]

I thought ||Demeter|| was a spoiler ?

Everything post game is spoiler someone said before.

Hades is the best Roguelike I ever played and one of the best game I've ever played.

[lyric wharf]

What do you mean by it might have killed Roguelike ?

[tiny tundra]

I mean, I can think of a few improvements. The game has very many layers of RNG, and there’s some room to expand move-sets.

[coral pilot]

is there no new player channel anymore?

[mint forum]

@coral pilot #h1-for-new-players

UwU

[coral pilot]

weird! i see it now, wasnt there a sec ago...

[lyric wharf]

The game is still really awesome tho.

[waxen juniper]

Also, none of the RNG is an auto lose

[tiny tundra]

Well, of course. It’s a very well made game.

[prisma wind]

Do you have the Hades tab collapsed? If so, it will only show the channels in that category if there are new messages and otherwise they are hidden

[lyric wharf]

Roguelike games are usually more about the player skill than what you get in game which is why I love Roguelike games, sure there are things that will make you better in a run but otherwise it depends a lot on the player.

[coral pilot]

that may be what was happening. you never know what happens once i start on the hooch for the evening

[waxen juniper]

So for stubborn defiance, can you die in a styx tunnel and you'll get the stub d back in the next one?

[winter harbor]

Yep

[plucky brook]

tbf if you're being killed in styx multiple times... your build might not be too strong, or ||heightened security poison is really burning you||

[waxen juniper]

No no, I am asking because I had low health with touch of styx dark available.

[rich acorn]

||Just "beat the game", damn.||

[plucky brook]

||what a beautiful garden||

[narrow lotus]

🙂

[rich acorn]

||That death hit harder than the 40+ previous ones||

[lyric wharf]

Lol.

[plucky brook]

||ooh your first clear?||

[lyric wharf]

That fits perfectly for the Roguelike aspect of the game tho.

[rich acorn]

||Yeah||

||I was like OOOOOOH when i saw the sunset||

||Even when it just said Greece||

[lyric wharf]

I thought ||the story would end and you just keep on doing runs but there's still a reason in the story for you to keep going.||

[winter harbor]

It's so tragic

[rich acorn]

||oh there a big postgame too?||

[plucky brook]

||you're only 10% through the main story with that clear, trying not to spoil anything ||

[rich acorn]

||LETS GOOOOOOOOO||

[lyric wharf]

||Post game is Roguelike games is just to keep doing runs.||

[winter harbor]

The story's just getting started\

[plucky brook]

||tbf, (without spoiling) the reason to keep running is a very clever thing by the devs||

[winter harbor]

But yeah, there's a reason why Zag still tries to escape in the postgame

[rich acorn]

||Cant wait to get even more hours out of this game||

[plucky brook]

^^^

[rich acorn]

||And idk if this was intentional but when I returned to the house orpheus was singing for the first time||

[plucky brook]

||nah that's just rng based off freeing him etc I believe||

||tbf even after 50 clears I feel like I've only scratched the surface of actual gameplay, the replayability of this game is insane||

[lyric wharf]

But yeah compared to most Roguelike games, Hades has an actual story rather than back story.

[lyric wharf]

Roguelike games are all about replayability.

[plucky brook]

that's fair, but I've played other roguelikes which felt dull after x runs, this hasn't yet

[waxen juniper]

I felt that way with dead cells. It's a good game, but it wasn't my cup of tea

[lyric wharf]

Yeah same here, I usually play Roguelike games for a while and then just coming back from time to time.

I have Dead Cells, I really liked it, but beside the first time I've played, I never really stay long enough, I finished the game twice tho, each time you finish the game you unlock an higher difficulty.

[waxen juniper]

I think my problem with it is the permanent progression takes FOREVER! Plus, one weapon really doesn't feel like it is worth that kinda grind.

[rich acorn]

||Feeling the effects of the aftermath now||

[plucky brook]

tbh it's taking less time than I imagined

I'm at... I think the final upgrade for persuasion in mirror

at ~70h steam time

then it's just a matter of going up in ||heat|| to unlock & max all the aspects

[winter harbor]

I've fully maxed out two weapons and missing like an aspect or so away from maxing the others

[rich acorn]

||What are the bounties that are described in the heat list?||

[tender oxide]

I’m maxing out all the aspects I actually use rn and going from there

[lyric wharf]

What do you mean.

[plucky brook]

||It's just how you earn the rewards again, so each heat level you go up, you'll be able to earn blood from furies & hades, as well as diamond/ambrosia||

[tender oxide]

||Titan blood, diamond, and ambrosia||

[plucky brook]

same, I've maxed one of every weapon, now i'm unlocking/maxing/running the hidden aspects for ||fates list||

[lyric wharf]

I was fine with the permanent progression but yeah there are a lot of things to unlock.

[plucky brook]

I mean that's a good thing, you don't want to run out of content

[rich acorn]

K thanks

[lyric wharf]

My 2 most played Roguelike on Switch before Hades are Dead Cells with 80 hours and 20XX with 55 hours, Dead Cells like I said earlier I finished twice(once in normal difficulty and then in the higher difficulty), and 20XX finished a couple time, while I'm 80 hours in Hades and I'm still a lot into the game and I feel like I wont stop before a while.

[lyric wharf]

Yeah I have nothing against it.

It was actually fun to fill up all the bottles in your base before runs, if you're wondering, in Dead Cells there are a lot of bottles sustained in the air that displays everything you unlocked in the game.

[brazen lagoon]

trust me bro youre not gonna stop anytime soon lol

[lyric wharf]

Yeah hopefully, in Roguelike games I always felt like I wasn't playing them enough even with 50+ hours in, like I wanted to reach the latest difficulties and such, so I hope I'll stay long enough in Hades to really experiment the most that I can.

I love Roguelike games but yeah often I still have a lot of things left to do.

[remote hull]

excited noises. I can't believe I found the discord so I can nerd out.

I have been playing Hades for two weeks straight because my boyfriend got me into it. ;w;

[spice hearth]

yooooooo

[slim bay]

i've been playing for a week or so and im kinda sad rn

[spice hearth]

welcome to the underworld!

[remote hull]

Ayooo thanks.

[slim bay]

i was trying to get curse of drowning on Coronacht with aspect of hera

[spice hearth]

can you even do that?

[slim bay]

wanted to get a cast fusion and then load it into my bow

it wouldnt let me

spent like an hour on nothing

[spice hearth]

yeah, it's one of those that are incompatible with that specific weapon

[slim bay]

aw

i guess it makes sense tho

i guess i should try for one of the other cast fuses

maybe mirage shot

would that work

[spice hearth]

Mirage shot works amazing with Hera

[slim bay]

yay

[spice hearth]

have you tried the Trippy shot duos yet?

[slim bay]

idk what that is

im pretty new

[spice hearth]

the Dionysus Cast boon

[slim bay]

just trying to unlock demeter by beating the final stage

ooo yeah

[spice hearth]

ooooooh

that new huh

[slim bay]

i like trippy shot with hera

[spice hearth]

try getting the duo boon with Zeus

[plucky brook]

trippy shot + zeus duo is my favourite combination

[slim bay]

ok then i'll do that

[plucky brook]

chuck that into the 4th shield aspect, and the run is already won

[slim bay]

im using hera because its fun

[plucky brook]

use whatever you like

[spice hearth]

yep yep

[slim bay]

I cant get mirage shot hera either am i doing sommething wrong

ok i did do something wrong i got it

[waxen juniper]

Only two weeks? That's rookie numbers! 😆

[remote hull]

I didn't find out about the game until Christmas because my boyfriend bought it while it was on sale and showed me-

XD

[brazen lagoon]

i been playing it for 7 weeks straight fam

[remote hull]

I'm also super poor so I couldn't afford it until after Christmas. ;w;

[slim bay]

I got last saturday

[remote hull]

Oh wait, it's been three weeks now. o:

[brazen lagoon]

got it during autumn sale

[remote hull]

Ahhh yeah, I got it during the winter sale but I got the bundle since I wanted to see how all the games are.

So far... Only have been playing just Hades and nothing but.

[waxen juniper]

Tbh, I forgot when I bought it

[lyric wharf]

I bought Hades on Christmas day, I have been playing it since.

[remote hull]

I got it December 28th! :D

[slim bay]

furthest i've gotten is to cerberus

[tender oxide]

I got it in like October but didn't really get into it until December because I was preoccupied with Doom Eternal lol

[steady imp]

Seriously Exclusive Access is one of the strongest boons i've ever seen in this game, i've got one in Tartarus and my game became easy mode, why does this exist

and i absolutely love it

[waxen juniper]

That is progress!

Exclusive access is a nice boon

[slim bay]

yeah, I died trying to get coins for titan blood

[remote hull]

Progress! It took me a bit to finally learn the right builds to beat Hades.

Ooooh, see, in the early runs I don't go for it.

I just go straight to Hades.

[waxen juniper]

I don't know about OP though

[prisma wind]

Exclusive Access is amazing unless you get it offered right before the final boss

[steady imp]

i mean, i got one in tartarus, so every boon from tartarus to styx was Epic, this made my run that otherwise would be a disaster

[lyric wharf]

I knew about Hades on Steam since a year ago tho, I watched a bit of it and it looked interesting but I was waiting for a potential Switch version, I didn't think the game would be that great but I'm glad I waited for the Switch version, I dont think it was announced back then but since Bastion and Transistor were on Switch I just guessed Hades would be on it as well, I prefer to play games on Switch so yeah.

[slim bay]

whats exclusive access

[manic bobcat]

Exclusive Access, to me, is like getting Diplopia Steam Sale in Depths I and Greed fight in Depths II.

Never lucky

[slim bay]

ah

[steady imp]

It's a boon from Poseidon/Dio that makes every boon you found Epic rarity

[plucky brook]

get it in the ||styx shop after you find the sack||

[waxen juniper]

Trust me, boon rarity is not something that kills a run

[slim bay]

see binding of isaac terms i get

[manic bobcat]

Lmao

[remote hull]

AYEEE.

[waxen juniper]

But it does make it better

[tender oxide]

Rarity only really matters with dio and Hermes boons

[slim bay]

I got hades because it reminded me of isaac

[lyric wharf]

@remote hull Btw ||Hades|| is spoiler if you're talking about ||the final boss.||

[manic bobcat]

It also matters for Doom

[remote hull]

Oh! Thank you!

[remote hull]

So did I.

[waxen juniper]

It benefits doom, but doom really gets better with poms

[manic bobcat]

This is funny. I got Isaac, played for a bit then stopped. Then I got Hades, played Hades a lot, then revisit Isaac.

[manic bobcat]

Well the difference between Common and Epic Doom is large.

[waxen juniper]

Oh for sure

[slim bay]

I got Mirage Shot with Slicing Shot cast so I have 5 blade storms now

[remote hull]

I clocked 516 hours in Isaac and I already have 46 for Hades since it compares to it so well. I have bad ADHD and Hades helps me focus tbh since I hyper focus on it.

[manic bobcat]

Mirage Shot used to be a tier 2 boon xD

[plucky brook]

I was awful at isaac, i like to consider myself pretty good at hades

[slim bay]

see kinda opposite

[remote hull]

I like the whole having to restart thing, but the thing with Hades is I love that there is a story.

[waxen juniper]

Right there with ya Michael

[steady imp]

i just dont like Ares boons, i mean doom is absolutely awesome but i can't stand the blade rift thing, for me its... meh

[tender oxide]

I find that having +1 vs +3 dashes or 10% vs 25% dodge chance is a much more noticeable gap than a little bit of damage though

[slim bay]

Ares Boons are my favorite

[waxen juniper]

Blade rifts are great!

[manic bobcat]

Blad Rift lovers monkaS

[plucky brook]

Apparently blade rift cast is a strong build but I'm yet to try it

[brazen lagoon]

blade rift is pretty good fam

[slim bay]

yeah

[brazen lagoon]

especially with the supporting boons

[tender oxide]

Hunting blades are really good

[plucky brook]

How does blade rift + 4th shield work?

[steady imp]

I think Dio cast + beowulf much better

[waxen juniper]

I think the only god that can be a bit tough to get behind is ||demeter||. Chill doesn't seem like it does too much. However, I will say it is significant with forced overtime

I do love ||demeter|| though.

[plucky brook]

I've done that, v good with zeus duo, just interested in experimenting

[tender oxide]

Chill is very good especially with fists because the slower enemies you are attacking are moving, the better odds you have of not taking damage

Also Rare Crop is god tier

[steady imp]

i dont like ||chill||with fists, you already go melee, there is better boons. But its just me

[waxen juniper]

Yeah, I really like her with fists

[plucky brook]

Lightning chain fists

[steady imp]

I just won a run with it

its awesome

[brazen lagoon]

merciful end fists tho

[tender oxide]

Obv go for lighting fists but since I use Demeter aspect I can also stack effects with the charged special

[steady imp]

What about aspect of ||arthur||? What boons do y'all like?

[slim bay]

dangit i died at bone hydra again

[tender oxide]

F

[lyric wharf]

I didn't like it at first but now I love it, its really great.

[slim bay]

im not dying as much though

[brazen lagoon]

artemis

the crit attacks do insane damage

get aphro on special/ dash for heart rend

[slim bay]

I like Ares

[steady imp]

I agree

[lyric wharf]

I'm a lot into Ice Wine boon lately.

[steady imp]

But i hate depending on luck

[lyric wharf]

I literally always go for it.

[steady imp]

For damagw

Damage*

[tender oxide]

Even without crits you still do a lot of damage

[lyric wharf]

Hunter Mark is really nice for consistent crit hit.

If I have it I prioritize lvling it if I'm on a crit build.

[steady imp]

I kinda like Aphro more because of the enormous scales

[lyric wharf]

Enormous scales ?

You mean design ?

[steady imp]

Nope, the %s

[tender oxide]

Damage easily scales up more with poms

[lyric wharf]

Oh.

[tender oxide]

And you can always go for chaos boons that increase damage

[waxen juniper]

||Arthur|| with a deflect special is awesome!

[lyric wharf]

Can you get high damage on bow special other than Chiron aspect ? Doom on special is really awesome but otherwise it doesnt do a lot of damage unless close to enemies to hit them with all the arrows which I actually often do.

[waxen juniper]

Zeus special is fun

[steady imp]

Try the hidden aspect with zeus lightnings and spam the special

Its funny

[manic bobcat]

Yup special on bow is delegated to be support role

Aka debuff applier

[slim bay]

I have Charons entry complete

[manic bobcat]

Don't use it for damage

[slim bay]

but he has one heart left that i cant open or something

[crude onyx]

Demeter special chiron begs to differ

[manic bobcat]

We are talking non Chiron here

[crude onyx]

Ah

[tender oxide]

You need to keep buying stuff at his shops and it'll eventually open

[crude onyx]

Yeah bow special sucks outside of chiron/filling a slot

[slim bay]

oh ok

[plucky brook]

Imagine my surprise the arte simp promotes artemis usage

[brazen lagoon]

i mean i simp for a reason fam

[plucky brook]

Valid

[tender oxide]

Honestly everybody is a simp for Arte

[plucky brook]

Im still torn on crit vs hangover chiron

4th sword is always arte though

[prisma wind]

They're both valid, and Artemis ties them together so...

[crude onyx]

Either way you gotta build around special on chiron

Pick one and run with it

[plucky brook]

Yeah but im either putting dio or arte on special

[prisma wind]

Aphro on attack and then pick whichever of Dio/Artemis shows up first

[void shell]

Yeah I always enjoy aphro attack with dio special

[plucky brook]

Thats a thought

Just starting rose keepsake and rolling the dice

[manic bobcat]

Found Nyaa's alt account.

[winter harbor]

Zeus Athena duo should totally be the duo named splitting headache

[plucky brook]

[crude onyx]

You’re absolutely right and it’s a shame that didn’t work

[lyric wharf]

I'll remember about that.

[lyric wharf]

Yeah today I realized its just awesome having doom on special.

[waxen juniper]

That's one of the first things I did with bow. It was a lot of fun

Didn't win, but that's because I was a noob

[ebon grove]

ambiguity bonus on bouldy = whiff?

[manic bobcat]

Correct.

[runic agate]

e

E

[lyric wharf]

I'm going doom special and Ice Wine build for the last few EM4 runs I've done, I can finish EM4 with this build.

[slim bay]

guys i might win this run

I have 900% shield damage dash strike and 60% crit chance dash strike

[prisma wind]

Good luck!

[slim bay]

thanks

[lyric wharf]

Nice good luck, heat run ?

[slim bay]

whats a heat run

[waxen juniper]

Question: is blizzard shot an altered version of flood shot? As in, does upgrading flood shot do anything?

[prisma wind]

Yes

[slim bay]

ok im on elysium, 2 lives left

[waxen juniper]

Awesome! Does it increase the damage of the shards as well?

[lyric wharf]

Post game content, I guess you didn't clear your first run yet.

[slim bay]

nope

my best run got up to cerberus

[prisma wind]

I don't think shard damage increases but can't say for sure

[slim bay]

i went for some money in one of the gates and died

brb im getting really stressed and im gonna cool off

[plucky brook]

[slim bay]

oh my god i nearly lost my run to the dumbest thing ever

thanatos stopped me in my place so we could do the enemy killing competition and i got stuck in the way of one of the spear launching things

the second one almost hit and killed me

[trim wagon]

hi!

[waxen juniper]

Dang! Blizzard shot really does tear through bosses!

[trim wagon]

I just wanted to come in and say I love Hades

Absolutely phenomenal game

[prisma wind]

Welcome!

[slim bay]

Eyyy i got lightning rod

[versed verge]

I thought talking to thanatos gives you I frames

[slim bay]

no during the dialogue

i nearly lost my best run to dialogue

nope

i think this is the run though

[trim wagon]

how many attempts are you on?

[slim bay]

50ish

[trim wagon]

oh really? took me like 27

[plucky brook]

||hades|| is a spoiler in this channel

[trim wagon]

ohhh whoops sorry

[brazen lagoon]

spoiler that dude

[tender oxide]

||They could've meant hades as in the game not the boss lol||

[trim wagon]

i had no idea this was spoiler free so sorry 😦

[plucky brook]

There's no beating a roguelike, only more runs :p

[tender oxide]

True

[trim wagon]

i had like questions though, irregardless, like is there a defnitive guide on like building a run?

[plucky brook]

Not really that's the beauty of this game, everything is balanced to an extent.
Personally I default to zeus on most weapons and go from there

[trim wagon]

ah ok uhh

hmm

[plucky brook]

Pinned in #h1-for-new-players is a small guide on weapon builds

[trim wagon]

how do I do spoiler tags?

ah cool thanks

[plucky brook]

But its in no way definitive

||spoiler||

[trim wagon]

alright I'll give it a whirl
llspoilerll

uhh

[plucky brook]

||spoiler||

[trim wagon]

spoiler

[plucky brook]

Did you copy and paste mìne?

Oh you put l the letter

[prisma wind]

You can talk in #h1-builds-and-combat and #h1-story-discussion generally without spoiler tags, but beware because there are, well, spoilers

[plucky brook]

Its |

[trim wagon]

ok gotcha

[plucky brook]

If you're on pc atm, it should be inbetween enter & backspace

[tender oxide]

Not a capital I

[trim wagon]

ohh there it is ok think I got it

|spoiler|

[prisma wind]

You can also highlight the text and a context menu will appear, where you can select the "eye" icon

[plucky brook]

Two of them

[trim wagon]

oh ok ||spoiler||

[plucky brook]

👍

[trim wagon]

oh hey I did it! thanks!

now I have another tool in my belt

wait on or in? hmm

[narrow hemlock]

you got it!

[plucky brook]

I've never seen that (till you mentioned it)

[trim wagon]

ok lemme try ||I'm having trouble with guan yu's spear or whatever it's called I just quite get the hang of it yet||

||it's very nice but I keep doing worse than I usually do||

[prisma wind]

I recommend waiting until it's fully upgraded to use that aspect, if you haven't already

Makes it more tolerable

[trim wagon]

ohhh ok that's understandable!

like how many upgrades we talking?

[lyric wharf]

No DD lost at EM4 Elysium boss for the first time.

[prisma wind]

Every upgrade ||reduces the health penalty|| so up to you, but max is ideal

[trim wagon]

||best way to get titan blood just asking for a friend lmfao||

[prisma wind]

Win runs

[plucky brook]

I don't use it myself, but here's what someone else has said about it - #h1-builds-and-combat message

[crude onyx]

Grind the list of fated prophecies

Imo

[lyric wharf]

Heat runs, Styx shop, prophecies.

[prisma wind]

There are some prophecies that offer a lot of blood, though

[plucky brook]

There's a prophecy where if you complete ||1 run of every punishment type, you get 15 blood, which is an instant max||

[trim wagon]

oh right right prophecies, I shoudl've come to that conclusion myself

[slim bay]

ok guys, one life left, final fight of elysium

[plucky brook]

gl gl

[prisma wind]

Fingers crossed

[trim wagon]

yeah go get em tiger

[slim bay]

thanks mates

[plucky brook]

keep calm, focus mino, keep a pillar between you and theseus

dash through mino's axe slam

[trim wagon]

seriously how long did it take you guys to ||beat your dad within an inch of his afterlife||? I think I got lucky

[plucky brook]

22 for my first clear, now sitting at 50 clears in 81 attempts

[slim bay]

im bludgeoning mino while my crystals strike theseus with lightning

[trim wagon]

Oooo nice

[plucky brook]

people progress at different rates, there's no real competition, single player game with a wholesome supportive community

[prisma wind]

I've been playing since the game first released in early access so I can't really answer that

[trim wagon]

as I said it took me 27 runs but I've been getting worse and haven't even ||gotten past cerberus||

@plucky brook that's beautiful, makes me feel like a jerk for being inherently competitive

[plucky brook]

as your game knowledge grows you'll gain a greater understanding about what build you want to go for with each weapon

however I can't even claim to know anything about the hidden spear

[prisma wind]

There's a competitive scene, too, but it's still pretty welcoming

[trim wagon]

that's just fantastic.

[prisma wind]

Lots of leaderboards if you're interested

[plucky brook]

yeah for speed running, not for people trying out the game for the first time

[slim bay]

I GOT EM

[plucky brook]

nice nice

[slim bay]

time for floor 4

[plucky brook]

keep it up

[trim wagon]

nice pog

[plucky brook]

speaking of styx ||the first time I got there I was so scared I had to fight cerberus straight away||

[slim bay]

i didnt think that lightning rod would be so good

[trim wagon]

yeah I saw this game recommended by a lot of my friends on discord and I saw Moist Critical say this was his personal GOTY and I can see why

[plucky brook]

yeah I needed a new game to play on the side of my primary game, thought of this, haven't had a single regret

[trim wagon]

also Dusa is bae

[slim bay]

im not in the best spot, half health on the final floor

[trim wagon]

go for it.

[plucky brook]

that's fine, keep your health up and take the heal when you find sack

[plucky brook]

I had a look for curiosity, my pb is 244th

[prisma wind]

I haven't put anything up on the 1.37+ board, and only ever tried to Go Fast like, 2 times so my one submitted run is probably waaaay back on the 1.0 boards

[slim bay]

ok im at 4 because of the stupid acid rats

the run is basically over now but whatever

[hushed schooner]

the poison is awful yeah

[plucky brook]

maybe when im more confident with eris/demeter aspects i'll give another speed attempt, atm i'm just vibing and having fun

[hushed schooner]

dw about it

im sure you can get back to styx

styx definitely has a learning curve

[slim bay]

my biggest obstacle is normally floor 2 final boss

but since i had 900% shield damage the mini hydras were easy

i got 5 lives now

what are the aspect of ? ? ?

[plucky brook]

they are hidden aspects which you'll uncover through various characters/substories

[slim bay]

huh

[plucky brook]

you can find the exact unlocks in pinned messages in #h1-story-discussion

It's considered spoilers so I'm being vague

[fleet acorn]

you unlock them later yeah

[slim bay]

ok i got it

||WAIT WHAT I DIDNT KNOW RENOVATIONS WERE MORE THAN COSMETIC||

[plucky brook]

[slim bay]

I DIDNT REALIZE OK

[plucky brook]

||yes there's some minor story points/fate lists related to it||

[coarse plover]

||dusa flashbacks intensify||

[fleet acorn]

||when i had that questline i already did all the decorating necessary which was funny||

[marsh oar]

[hushed schooner]

imagine not

keeping your lounge up to date

and with the most up to date furniture

[coarse plover]

[lyric wharf]

Does perfect shot do more cast damage with Hera bow ?

I'm really having fun with Doom focused build with Hera bow.

[brazen lagoon]

i hate ||EM3||with fists so much

[plucky brook]

easy way to avoid that is just to use ||em2||

[brazen lagoon]

ik but im doing ||16 heat||rn

had to sub out ||EM3|| with 2||DC|| and 1||JS||

i hate it so much

[lyric wharf]

Another ||EM4 Hades fight|| full hp and DD let's go.

[plucky brook]

||16heat with em3????|| jesus we take very different choices apparently

[hushed schooner]

i mean

i would go for that

[plucky brook]

braver than I am that's for sure, I don't want to go near that with a 10ft pole

[hushed schooner]

||my first heat 6 clear was em3||

||i could probably take it with like bp + some other stuf for 16 if i has to||

[plucky brook]

||em2 is comfortable, em3 scares me, I like beating down the champions in 30s flat||

[hushed schooner]

understandable

it is scary

ive only done it once so far

[brazen lagoon]

i think i know why i find ||EM3||so hard now

because i have ||FO|| on

[winter harbor]

||I think EM3 is manageable enough, but I use the acorn and had to learn to stop attacking when the minotaur was doing the beyblade thing||

But yeah, it becomes more difficult with that other condition

[uneven canyon]

what is the point of strong drink being upgraded?

[brazen lagoon]

you get more damage from the fountains

[uneven canyon]

but it went from +3% to +0%?

visual glitch? actual gameplay glitch?

[lyric wharf]

Damn I was so close to finish EM4, ||Hades|| has 20% hp left.

[uneven canyon]

I'm on a roll today

[prisma wind]

Sounds like some variety of bug. Are you playing on PC?

[plucky brook]

||hades|| is a spoiler in this channel

[prisma wind]

And yes, please spoiler tag the final boss in this channel

[lyric wharf]

At some point I've got hit a few times because I wasn't paying attention, I could have got it.

Well I'm getting closer and closer anyways.

[brazen lagoon]

yeah i've gotten this before

[waxen juniper]

I have a nice sub for 16 heat if you are interested.
EM2, Hard labor 100%, benefits package 2 and Forced Overtime 1.

Oh and Tight Dealine 1 of course. This is 17 heat

[brazen lagoon]

hard labor 100% sounds like hell

since i tend to get hit alot

[waxen juniper]

It just means ya got to get good. Hard labor helps with that

[plucky brook]

||HL100% ||

[brazen lagoon]

but i dont wanna get gud 😦

[waxen juniper]

Yep! I have it on all the time now. Which means I either feel amazing about winning, or I feel really bad because I lost to Meg 😆

Either way, this is the heat package I like right now. HL is tough, but it's very satisfying to do

[plucky brook]

I kinda like how as your skill grows, you kinda keep some ||heat|| things on no matter what, I will always run ||BP1, EM2 & TD1|| in every run

[waxen juniper]

Same!

[prisma wind]

Casual talk about heat is fine and happens in here, but please keep in-depth discussions to #h1-builds-and-combat

[plucky brook]

[hushed schooner]

yeah i usually keep on || bp+td1 no matter the heat ||

[waxen juniper]

That's fair

[brazen lagoon]

the build i got now is JS 1, EM 2, BP 1, MM, FO 1, DC 2 and TD 2

yeah sorry we'l wrap it up

[waxen juniper]

Let's bring this to builds and combat as wrightfyre said

[prisma wind]

It's surprisingly common how often people add that extra 'r'

[waxen juniper]

Whoops

Welp, time to play my 4th chill build in a row 😆

[plucky brook]

what weapon(s) you been running?

[waxen juniper]

Honestly, I don't even remember 😆

I just know I ran Poseidon last run

Oh, demeter fists, and I am running zeus aspect for this one.

[uneven canyon]

I had a run where it was just Demeter Crystal spam