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brisk trail
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he kills your run in 2 hits

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especially if you misread the ||beyblade||

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it's goodbye

green maple
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omg beyblade lmao

brisk trail
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his charge

devout glen
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is there extreme measures Cerberus

brisk trail
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who knows

narrow rampart
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Extremer measures

devout glen
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because if not, thats a missided opportunity

brisk trail
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is there

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or is there not

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you shall see

narrow rampart
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Neither yes nor no

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Is spoiler

brisk trail
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||yesn't||

narrow rampart
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Ask in spoiler channel if you want to know

runic agate
languid plover
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While extreme measures 3 make Asterius hella stronger, it makes Theseus weaker.

EM3 makes him to have lower HP for next phase (God Call)

runic agate
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Yup lel

patent bobcat
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||so skelly wants me to hit him with aspect of zagreus sword but max leveled?||

brisk trail
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yep

patent bobcat
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thats a bunch of titan blood

brisk trail
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just 5

patent bobcat
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yeah but its going into an aspect i dont really use haha

brisk trail
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fair

wet nimbus
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Take the best one then lol

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There are some really good aspects with some

brisk trail
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it needs to be that aspect

lone sinew
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it works only with Zag's

runic agate
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Only max zag aspect

atomic perch
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Anyone notice they get their keepsake boon spawning in the higher heat erebis gates that they can't enter?

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Usually in Elysium

void vigil
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the boon will spawn again as long as you dont take the gate, so its not that big a deal if it happens

atomic perch
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@patent bobcat Its hard to come by till your mostly done with ambrosia for the keepsake/people important for you then you can get a lot by trading. Like 3.5 blood per pact run

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alma guess I got unlucky a few times last night. Elysium is so short it never spawned elsewhere.

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Stuff like hammers hermes gold hearts etc

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Also tried taking one into Styx for Artemis and just got only zeus and aphro in the shop and tunnels. Not sure if they work for styx

void vigil
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is it possible you used it before in the run? it doesnt refresh per biome

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it keeps the rarity bonus but the guaranteed boon is once per run

atomic perch
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Definetly likely. Didnt know that.

thorny ferry
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IS THERE GOING TO BE A SEQUEL

remote anchor
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Sgg has not done a sequel before

tired sundial
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A spin off fishing simulator

warped iron
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help

minor badge
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pick up the current chamber reward?

warped iron
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yes

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look at where it is

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smh

distant night
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fast E

warped iron
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yeah

minor badge
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loooooool

warped iron
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i just thought it was funny

distant night
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oh artemis really dun want you to have her boon lol

minor badge
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Artemis is canonically hard to get lol

distant night
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your build is not artemis approved ๐Ÿ˜‚

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LASHE SUOHFAODA

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XD

minor badge
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hahaha

narrow hemlock
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how on earth did you manage that, i didn't even notice it at first lol

warped iron
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uh

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megagorgon was

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off in the lava

narrow hemlock
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omg

distant night
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artemis is just shy ๐Ÿ‘‰ ๐Ÿ‘ˆ

minor badge
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She is! Even out in them lava fields lol

distant night
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hiding behind the graves

minor badge
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as one does

distant night
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"just dont notice me"

narrow hemlock
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zag: erm, lady artemis...
artemis: Perish.

minor badge
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loooool

distant night
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get crispy ajfingerguns

tired sundial
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๐Ÿ”ฅ

distant zephyr
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I'm in a video call with Mr. Rao rn

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this is insane

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dm me if you want a ss

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for proof

distant night
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o.O

tired sundial
brisk trail
distant zephyr
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Poggers

distant night
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oh my, all the mods are away or on do not disturb, yall good? D:

prisma wind
distant zephyr
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artemis i sent you a

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secreenshot

red vault
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acl raid

distant night
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i see but what

distant zephyr
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ACL RAID GOGOGOGOGO

bright nymph
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what is an acl

red vault
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its a school

crisp ruin
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self-dox

red vault
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ez

distant night
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when you cant remember names

flat vapor
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ALWAYS WATCHING....

distant night
flat vapor
prisma wind
tired sundial
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Bouldy no please

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We can work this out

distant night
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๐Ÿ˜‚

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what is happening~

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here wightfyre, take some nectar too, you deserve it nectar <3

tired sundial
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We pushed bouldy too far

lone sinew
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Bouldy.. moved

tired sundial
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The bould and the brave

minor badge
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The bould and the beautiful

lone sinew
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The bould and Sisyphus

distant night
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the bould is the beautiful

tired sundial
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Such curves

distant night
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perfectly round

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perfect for pushing and rolling

tired sundial
distant night
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as all boulds should be

lone sinew
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rolling you say huh? I think Bouldy might know Rick

distant night
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do you think sisyphus calls all tiny pieces of bould that can come off when bould moves mini-boulds

distant night
tired sundial
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Rick... boulled

lone sinew
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Oh no he dosent know rick.. HE IS RICK

distant night
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bould rolled

tired sundial
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Bloody brilliant

distant night
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rick bouldy rolled

minor badge
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I can't with any of this lol

lone sinew
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I want to meet them

distant night
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i hope all tartarus pebbles are mini-boulds

lone sinew
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The real ending is meeting the mini boulds???

distant night
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not me going out on the courtyard rn to paint a bouldy face on every single pebble :DDD

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but brb

lone sinew
tired sundial
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The real ending was the inanimate objects we befriended along the way

faint flint
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shield special

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why do you suck so much

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like

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there is one fury sister attacking me

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why do you want to fly off for two hours

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just apply your bloody debuff and come back

dusk turtle
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"I would do anything for a glimpse of Aphrodite!"
"Cause of Death: Dehydration"
Man thirsted so hard he died

toxic bridge
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man this game is so addictive

tepid plover
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Yes

frigid abyss
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yes

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im mad at it though because gloves ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

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any tips for final boss on gloves? do i just have to be fast

bright nymph
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Try to dash away before he telegraphs attacks

Hide behind the big posts during the spinny fire move

frigid abyss
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๐Ÿ‘

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there's so much going on in that fight ๐Ÿ˜ฉ thanks

hushed pumice
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Dash to dodge. Don't panic.

timid compass
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how do I avoid ||getting sniped by hades's spear in EM4?|| do I have to keep moving? is there a window of time when I can attack him back?

distant night
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deflects

toxic bridge
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If i jump down to the chaos hole will the item on the door above the hole be the same as inside?

regal vigil
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no I dont think so

toxic bridge
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thanks

regal vigil
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no prob

tepid plover
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It might

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It might not

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Rng

brisk trail
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what would that be? bigthink

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alright

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are you sure it's an exploit or

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an actual game mechanic

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cause there's stuff like athena SD

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which can look like a bug but isn't

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i guess you could f10, maybe?

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wdym can always build with lvl7+

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anw, i'm not sure what it is so cant say if it's worth contacting sg but f10 should still work tho it's not a bug

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or contact supergiants on their website form

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any difficulty sounds a bit of a stretch tho, the game gets hard with more and more heat

devout glen
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does giving nectar to charon lead to anything?

brisk trail
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gifts? heat rewards?

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oh, boons

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it's cool

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yeah, not sure what that could be

devout glen
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so besides the first nectar, there is no reason to do it?

brisk trail
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but if it was truly game-breaking it'd have been discovered by now, i feel

jovial owl
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one day ill try a 100% run
..after i beat my first run lol

brisk trail
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take your time

jovial owl
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but i hit my gift limit for hypnos and i cant seem to get past his locked heart

brisk trail
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what

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59?

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the highest record so far is 58

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actually, 57

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the maximum is 63/64

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boon levels alone shouldn't do the work though

distant night
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thx to yall lovely bow people i finally got a sub 25 bow run

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yall are precious

jovial owl
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I'll never give up my spear. I love that thing to death

distant night
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same

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i still want a sub 15 run with every weapon not just the spear

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speed is key

jovial owl
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I'm trying for a sub 30 run and maybe I'll try a sub 25 run but I think that's as good as I'll get. I've just never played a game genre like this so I'm not the best ^^;

frigid abyss
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i forgot you can give nectar to charon...

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i feel you mars

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im still just trying to beat the game on all weapons ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

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78 hours in

distant night
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which give you issues jiggly?

frigid abyss
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im on my last one which is gloves

distant night
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:o

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may the gods grant you a nice build!

frigid abyss
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anything where i have to play aggressively seems to be a weak point lol

jovial owl
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I'm like, just barely under 20 hours

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gl with your ultimate quest !!

winter harbor
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I thought gloves were difficult at first, but I guess, treat it like you would the rail

frigid abyss
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doing heat under 30 hours...don't tell me ur bad at this game

winter harbor
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small, fast hits like dionysus and zeus

distant night
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200h and i have yet to beat all on 10 ||heat|| because i like spear too much and have it on 31 ||heat|| ๐Ÿ˜‚

winter harbor
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I think gloves is my favorite weapon but it's close between that and sword

distant night
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ohh which aspect of le fists?

frigid abyss
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i play on keyboard/mouse so i feel like that makes gloves more challenging?

distant night
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gloves just need a nice cast that can decimate multiple from afar

sour vigil
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@winter harbor What aspect do you prefer?

winter harbor
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I also play on keyboard/mouse

distant night
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since you mostly can only focus attack one

frigid abyss
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what kind of casts

winter harbor
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auto aim helps so much

distant night
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like zeus

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zeus casts is awesome with fists

frigid abyss
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i don't really have any issues with mobs, it's the bosses that get me

winter harbor
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I think I prefer Demeter fists at the moment but you really need to put some titan blood into it for it to be good

frigid abyss
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which aspect?

distant night
sour vigil
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@winter harbor Yeah, that's next on my list for upgrades. I really want to try Deadly flourish on it.

frigid abyss
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i did like ares special when i got that. maybe i'll try aphro?

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i've been doing demeter which i like but ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

distant night
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aphro makes the enemies weaker and gives the biggest damage boost

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so getting it on the attack is sexy

frigid abyss
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oh that is sexy

distant night
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and also if you go ares-aphro definitively have priviledged status in your mirror maxed

winter harbor
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I only won my run with heightened security because I got aphro legendary on fists

distant night
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it's so incredibly sexy

frigid abyss
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yes stacked effects rule

distant night
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maybe even with demeter or dio on calls

frigid abyss
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i will try this! i am tired of getting rekt ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

distant night
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good luck!

frigid abyss
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any aspect advice

jovial owl
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I go for ares call

frigid abyss
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i have two titan blood

distant night
jovial owl
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its amazing for spear too!!

sour vigil
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@frigid abyss Only 2 total?

distant night
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but not chiron bow

frigid abyss
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yeah i have spent the others

distant night
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talos kinda gives you an option to have one kinda ranged attack

jovial owl
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i like the spear because im realizing im a pretty aggro kind of player here so spear has that *chefs kiss * balance of range and close

distant night
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so if you feel more comfy with that, go for it

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if you feel like you get nice attack combos going definitively go for demeter

winter harbor
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Yeah, I like how talos makes fists pseudo ranged

frigid abyss
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yeah when i played rail i used it a lot more like a ranged weapon

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im more comfortable with ranged stuff in general i think

brisk trail
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for me spear feels a bit mechanically awkward on controller

distant night
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try talos then definitively!

brisk trail
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on m&kb you can really abuse dash attack though

distant night
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but first get used to its special on skelly

sour vigil
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@brisk trail 100% agreed

winter harbor
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laughs in playing every weapon as a melee weapon and getting rekt by bow as a result

frigid abyss
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yes

jovial owl
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the howl of laughter i made when I unlocked the rail and realize its. a literal gun. they gave zag a gun

frigid abyss
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that's what i tried with bow then i followed some reddit advice and beat the game with bow in two tries ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

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my build was broken tho

distant night
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thinking of spear achilles dashattack and spin camping is just so good ๐Ÿ˜ฉ ๐Ÿ‘Œ

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whenever i feel sad i hit it up with ||em4|| and feel good again

frigid abyss
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ok we tryin talos

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let's goooo

distant night
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may the gods grant you beautiful boons!!!

brisk trail
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Is hell mode only a more difficult mode and without god mode? Or do we get better rewards aswell?

frigid abyss
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thank you ๐Ÿ™

winter harbor
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Same rewards but you have to go up to higher heat to get all the rewards

distant night
winter harbor
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and it has personal liability which removes that brief shield of invincibility after getting a big hit

brisk trail
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thanks

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Wish i started in hell mode before, god mode kinda ruined the fun in the normal mode. Is there a way to turn my old save into hell mode?

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or only possible through new game?

winter harbor
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No, you have to start with hell mode

brisk trail
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thanks

sour vigil
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Hell mode also has one additional pact of punishment condition.

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Oh, someone already said that xD

brisk trail
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you could also turn off god mode

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i mean, if you didn't know that already

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I guess the fact that it's there is bothering for some (me included)

winter harbor
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Yeah, but I don't blame the guy not wanting to do that, saves are recorded differently between godmode and non

brisk trail
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how so?

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do you get a symbol of some sort?

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I have around 60 hours playtime until I figured out that godmode even exists

winter harbor
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You get a boon from having god mode active and run wins are recorded differently

brisk trail
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ah, in the archives?

sour vigil
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There's an icon on the save if you have god mode activated at the time of saving but I'm 99% sure it disappears if you disable god mode before saving.

winter harbor
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And on the victory screen

brisk trail
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I see

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whats the mode most people play?
Normal (without godmode)
Normal (with godmode)
Or hellmode?

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not hellmode for sure

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dunno how many actually use god mode

jovial owl
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i dont know what any of that means so I guess I'm playing normal w/out godmode

sour vigil
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God mode kind of ruins the game, I don't really like the way they implemented it.

winter harbor
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Probably normal without god mode

brisk trail
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it's there for people who need it.

winter harbor
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Because that's what speedrunners use

brisk trail
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That's cool but let's not take it away from the players who use it

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It's singleplayer anyway

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is there not a single downside to godmode?

winter harbor
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And even if you use god mode at first, there's nothing stopping you from switching out of it later if you feel you've mastered enemy patterns

sour vigil
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The problem is that the more you use god mode, the harder it is to disable.

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By which I mean, the greater the damage increase will be.

opaque nexus
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I just got the zagreus shield current update speedrun record

brisk trail
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I've seen people talk about wanting to reset it to base dr, yeah

sour vigil
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It would be nice if you could (at least optionally) reduce or reset the damage reduction.

brisk trail
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they should have just made an easy mode -> normal mode -> hellmode

opaque nexus
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I was so close to beating bablo's 7:57 1.0 time

brisk trail
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zoooom

sour vigil
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Like if successful clears lowered the %.

opaque nexus
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it was 8:18 in the end

brisk trail
opaque nexus
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the way hades does difficulty settings is great

brisk trail
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like dys said, there are people who start with godmode and eventually take it off

opaque nexus
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makes it a lot more accessible

brisk trail
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so it being toggleable is nice

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just don't use it if you don't want to

opaque nexus
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I think turning on god mode kind of lessens the triumphant feeling of beating the last boss for the first time

brisk trail
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^

opaque nexus
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but I'm not gonna be an elitist and say don't use it

sour vigil
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I AM

brisk trail
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exactly

opaque nexus
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I'm just giving my thoughts

sour vigil
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PLEBS, LISTEN UP

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jking to each their own

winter harbor
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I was considering using it if it took me longer than 22 hours to beat the game for the first time

brisk trail
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i didn't use it because i didn't want to

winter harbor
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Why 22 hours? Because that's how long it took me to beat Slay the Spire for the first time

sour vigil
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Oh.

brisk trail
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but there's no shame on using it if you need it

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just let people have fun

opaque nexus
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and the game is built around you dying a lot trying to win

winter harbor
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But I beat it within 16 hours so it didn't get used

opaque nexus
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that is how story progresses

ornate surge
vital aurora
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how do i go about reporting bugs? i had a game last night where burn-flinger/inferno-bomber/slam-dancer were dropping athena cast projectiles on death

winter harbor
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I know they're different style of roguelites but still, that's how I measure progress

brisk trail
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I suck at these kinds of games, played for a while before I turned god mode on and left it on for maybe 60 hours? I've turned it off and am almost as far in progression w/o it. I just felt like not having mirror traits and a few other things early makes it a struggle for people who aren't as good maybe? I'm glad I am playing with it turned off now I'll say that.

vital aurora
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thanks

brisk trail
void vigil
sour vigil
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Has anyone else encountered the bug that the acorn doesn't work when fighting the bull miniboss?

opaque nexus
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I think the way hades is designed makes it feel like a huge undertaking

brisk trail
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it only works in the final area

winter harbor
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No, that's intended

brisk trail
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@sour vigil Not a bug afaik, only works on final boss encounters

opaque nexus
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and you start to hear more about the characters which makes you want to escape even more

winter harbor
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It only works when fighting the boss, not any minibosses

vital aurora
sour vigil
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Oh. Wow, I need to learn to read.

brisk trail
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i liked dying, it meant i got to talk to friends

opaque nexus
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^

brisk trail
sour vigil
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The only bit of story that I haven't done, AFAIK, is getting the autograph for Hypnos. No idea how to do that.

brisk trail
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so hellmode it is

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if you dont wanna redo stuff

opaque nexus
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hell mode is kind unnecessary in my opinion

brisk trail
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godmode too

winter harbor
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hell mode is too similar to normal imo

opaque nexus
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this game already allows you to choose whatever difficulty you want

winter harbor
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god mode is ok for people who just want the story

brisk trail
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only the PL is diff really

sour vigil
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The invulnerability debuff is impactful... if you get hit.

brisk trail
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having pacts forced on you sucks too

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i've never taken CP (although im still at 45 heat)

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maybe on fists

winter harbor
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Take it once for the prophecy

brisk trail
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oh yeah, i took it for the prophecy

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but for pushing heat

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nah

sour vigil
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I took it when I first started because I was like "this doesn't seem so bad"

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Turns out, it's pretty bad.

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I also took Routine Inspection for a long time before I realized it's probably the worst choice possible.

opaque nexus
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routine inspection 1 is the single most devastating level of a pact in the game

brisk trail
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oh yeah, i thought ri was free

winter harbor
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It doesn't feel nice losing your fated persuasion

opaque nexus
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RI4 is also up there for most devastating pact level

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since you lose dash

lean hill
brisk trail
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i would say HS is the worst 1 point value

opaque nexus
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I would not recommend ever taking RI until above 45 heat unless you are using a weapon that sucks with damage control

winter harbor
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You can gain some rerolls later but losing the initial rerolls hurts more than you'd think

opaque nexus
brisk trail
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yeah, i mean just a single point

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for that

sour vigil
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There is a certain appeal to having no rerolls

brisk trail
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rng masochism, sure

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take ap2 as well

opaque nexus
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HS is way worse with DDs than stubborn

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with DDs if you make a mistake it hurts you for the rest of the run

brisk trail
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true

opaque nexus
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with stubborn you either get it back the next room or die

sour vigil
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HS wouldn't be bad if not for EM2.

regal vigil
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not to but in but with DD you can stack them and just go full send on a boss you may have trouble with rather than having a bunch in rooms in which you ideally would never have to use them

brisk trail
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honestly i still get surprised when i screw up and step into a trap lmao

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SD is good at high heat

sour vigil
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And there's one other Asphodel room that I always find really difficult to avoid the lava in.

brisk trail
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Because normal rooms are a threat

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Plus with LC4

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It's the only way to heal

devout glen
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||anyone else feels really bad when Hades says "Charon...take me home..."? He just sounds so defeated||

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I feel so bad

regal vigil
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yeah thats fair, I dont have much experience in high heat runs, Ive been progressing one heat at a time with multiple weapons

sour vigil
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Never feel bad for the dad

brisk trail
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you'll get there!

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i did that at the start too, but i realized how much i hated rail and sword

regal vigil
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I feel bad for him, hes not a bad dude

sour vigil
regal vigil
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yeah I usually do

winter harbor
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Bow is the one I'm worst at

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I'm weirdly good with rail

regal vigil
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I like resources what can I say

sour vigil
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That's weird because I feel like the bow is the most broken weapon by far...

regal vigil
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rail is just good

brisk trail
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i am the opposite of that lmao

regal vigil
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like with a good build you can do some nuts damage

brisk trail
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if there was an op weapon it'd prolly be eris rail

regal vigil
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exactly

sour vigil
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Aside from ||Rama||.

brisk trail
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but not game-breakingly so

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whaaat

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that's the best bow

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check out Tailesque

winter harbor
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they nerfed eris but on eris you should be spamming special anyway

sour vigil
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It's incredibly powerful, I'll grant you, but I think it's the worst designed weapon in the game.

brisk trail
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he is a rama god

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or a god in general

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hope he doesnt read this

opaque nexus
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||rama|| is great but not in every situation

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it is very good but not amazing in speedruns, and amazing in high heat

brisk trail
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ah, that's fair

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i don't know much about speedruns

opaque nexus
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Eris is good enough for high heat, meta in speedruns, easy to use, and easy to make it strong mid-run

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it's hard to rank weapons because there are many different factors

winter harbor
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and it's chef's kiss if you get rocket + cluster or triple bomb

brisk trail
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bow is the best weapon in my heart

regal vigil
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I havent unlocked ||rama|| yet but you guys are really making it sound like I should

opaque nexus
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oh btw zag shield propaganda time

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Use zag shield it's very good

sour vigil
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Why

brisk trail
regal vigil
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I've been trying to use ||Beowulf|| but I tend to stray from zag aspects just for them being kinda boring

opaque nexus
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fr tho, it's a very solid weapon

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pulverizing strike is very fun

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I recommend it

sour vigil
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I've never used Aspect of Zeus, is there a build for it that isn't just memes?

regal vigil
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I used it for a while

opaque nexus
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zeus special

regal vigil
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yea

sour vigil
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Does it proc on every hit?

regal vigil
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it does

opaque nexus
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yes

sour vigil
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O snap

brisk trail
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Zeus on zeus

opaque nexus
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only things zeus doesn't proc every hit on is stuff that hits really really fast in a short amount of time like chiron special

sour vigil
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Yeah, I learned that the disappointing way.

regal vigil
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its pretty nice I even used it at one blood for a while though probably upgrade it before that

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wait chiron doesent proc zeus every hit?

sour vigil
opaque nexus
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zeus shield is one of my least used weapons

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but it has tied heat world record so it's probably pretty good

regal vigil
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Yeah I do like it it just was nice to throw it out and wail on your opponent

opaque nexus
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in reality it's pretty superior to zag shield in most ways but shhhh

sour vigil
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That's how I feel about Ares and Hermes casts. So fun to just put them out there and poke.

brisk trail
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is the propaganda working

regal vigil
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plus with the increased damage after special hit hammer boon it makes every attack deal 80% increased damage

sour vigil
regal vigil
regal vigil
sour vigil
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Oh okay.

timid compass
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do peoples actually use zeus's cast?
I feel like it's one of the weakest

regal vigil
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I have before

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but not often

winter harbor
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I got his cast solely to enable sea storm

opaque nexus
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it is quite fun to use

regal vigil
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its good for ad clear

winter harbor
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The alternative was his call, which I didn't like because of the lack of invincibility

regal vigil
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Yeah I prefer posideon

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his call is nuts with the right boons and levels

opaque nexus
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I love poseidon's cast

sour vigil
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@regal vigil I feel like Zeus boons more than any other god get the nuttiest if you stack all of the additional effects.

regal vigil
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true

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I never really spec into one god tho maybe I should

sour vigil
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If not the nuttiest, then definitely the most seizure-inducing.

frigid abyss
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well. this is Not It.

sour vigil
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||Rama|| special spam will literally blind you with enough Zeus boons xD

regal vigil
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Ooo that sounds fun

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You guys are really hyping up ||Rama|| I'll probably unlock it after my ||Beowulf|| run I have excess blood anyway

sour vigil
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Haelian did a run using that build.

sour vigil
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Not sure if it was seeded.

opaque nexus
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there he is

timid compass
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question: what does ||guan yu||'s special changes aside from the fact that it disappears after you throw it?

warped iron
sour vigil
warped iron
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mods

sour vigil
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I want it

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Oh

warped iron
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I'm still working on it.

sour vigil
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I like the idea!

regal vigil
timid compass
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huh

regal vigil
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but thats cause theres no recall

timid compass
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is it worth to ||go for a spin build with guan yu even if you can't find boons to decrease the spin charge time or is it better to go for a special build instead?||

distant night
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low heat maybe, else nah

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special or dashattack build works nice but idk which exactly is favored amongst hidden spear

frigid abyss
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i think i broke the build i made with a hammer ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

timid compass
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why did you hit your build with a hammer

frigid abyss
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๐Ÿ˜ฉ

sour vigil
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@timid compass I think it's not really impossible to do without the speed buff, it's just not nearly as much fun (in my experience).

timid compass
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Haelian is a great hades player
but damn does he sucks at fishing

vestal kestrel
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Zeus shield is so cool!

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Using it for the first time rn

timid compass
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I've watched around 10 of his videos
and haven't seen a single great catch

sour vigil
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@vestal kestrel What boons?

vestal kestrel
sour vigil
timid compass
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you gotta press the button really fast after something bites to get a chance for a big fish

regal vigil
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wait does reaction time factor in!?

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Man I never knew

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||maybe thats why I keep getting trouts at the surface||

tepid plover
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2 types

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Normal and perfect

sour vigil
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Less than 0.34 second: Perfect catch. Guaranteed to catch a Rare fish. 1/21 (โ‰ˆ 4.76%) chance to catch a Legendary fish
0.34 second to 0.68 second: Catch. 1/21 chance to catch a Rare fish.

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I'll be damned.

hushed pumice
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It's only 5%?!

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How did I get enough of these things

hidden cloak
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What are the best mirror upgrades for ||guan yu||?

brisk trail
#

I like the game. Been grinding it to no ends.

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And I'm kinda confused here. Thanatos and Hypnos weren't supposed to be twins? Yet, I think that their faces are different.

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Hypnos's face be like some Joker, while Thanatos's be like some cool and collected Batman.

hot pecan
timid compass
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1/21 for a rare fish?
maybe in chaos (curse you projellies) but in elysium I get seamare more than half of the time

brisk trail
#

Will Hades ever be in a physical version?

faint flume
#

I finally got a rarefish today

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scylla scion

timid compass
#

also I have a question regarding a lot of the drawings in game
most of them, specifically the trees in the final boss arena and the fish drawings all have small green, pink and blue lines on them
what is that for? is it just an artistic choice? I can't stop thinking about it

prisma wind
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Just artistic, yes

distant night
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it all looks like gems

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so pretty and sparkly

fierce gazelle
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I started practicing speedrun yesterday. I just got a perfect seed, but I'm still not good enough to achieve good times RIP

vital aurora
cobalt haven
vital aurora
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and besides. you could have twins and they dont look alike. called fraternal twins

timid compass
rustic tapir
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sorry if not allowed, what are the chances hades will be on sale again on steam?

cobalt haven
#

Please I'm literally only missing that fish

timid compass
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this but with voidskate

cobalt haven
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I caught voidskate for my first chaos fish hh

timid compass
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my last 5 perfect catches in chaos were all projellies
this is a call for help

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meanwhile in elysium and asphodel more than half od my catches are seamares and flameaters

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(and of course styx only contains scuffer)

cobalt haven
#

I haven't caught a flameater in a millennium

timid compass
#

imagine how much more tedious it would be if the rod of fishing was a keepsake that you had to equip for fishing spots to appear

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apparently chaos fishes used to give ambrosia, diamonds and titan bloods
which would explain why they're so rare
but it's no longer the case so can we increase the rate for chaos fishing pools PLEAAASE

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which would be better on zag bow: explosive shot or perfect shot?

frigid abyss
#

i feel like zagreus rn

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"okay one more time" i say on my 5th run today

timid compass
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I just hade zagreus say "just in time" after hearing the thanatos noise
and when he spawned he said "I got here just in time"

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I wish there was a special dialogue when you clear one of than's trials without taking damage while using the butterfly

narrow rampart
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I had a similar one

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Zagreus: Death approaches

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Thanatos apperas: Death approaches

timid compass
#

another but this one is spoiler:
||Zagreus: we are not finished, father!||
||Hades: We are not finished!||

narrow rampart
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I think i heard that one too

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Zagreus is pulling a jojo move

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Next you'll say:

void vigil
timid compass
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Next you're gonna say: hsssssss!
Lernie: HSSSSSSS!

narrow rampart
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Lernie: NANI?!

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Zagreus: pulls adamant rail from behind his back

manic bobcat
wet kernel
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zag be like : how did this pottery go down to hell ? meanwhile link goes hnnggghh zzjjjeeeaahh with the pots

timid compass
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i just did a stupid move
I took the daedalus upgrade that makes my arrows inflict more damage in close range
but I also have the poseidon dash, which means when I try to get close to an enemy by dashing on them they'll fly away

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(but then again the other upgrades were a special related one and the bouncing arrow)

runic agate
rancid vapor
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Tight Deadline 3 + Extreme Measures maximum is so hard >.<

narrow rampart
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I'm trying to get used to all extreme measures so they will be the default for me

timid compass
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DIONYSOS BLINKS TOO?
that makes athena, dionysos and ares who have their picture blinking

narrow rampart
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Tho I'm still getting used to extremer measures

timid compass
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Which one is better for zag bow's atk: artemis for consistent crits or poseidon for the better dmg upgrade?
(I'm in styx temple and there's no aphrodite so she's not an option)

runic agate
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get a powershot crit and dam ded

hushed pumice
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The higher your crit chance the better crit is as a mechanic

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So stack those crits

timid compass
#

is the tiny vermin not affected by middle management or did I not noticed the change?

narrow rampart
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Maybe he's a boss not a miniboss?

manic bobcat
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some minibosses are not affected by MM

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Asterius miniboss, for example, is only affected by EM3

narrow rampart
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Rly?

distant night
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only asterius and styx secret boss tho

narrow rampart
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Oh yeah, because tehnically he's a boss

timid compass
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16 HEAT WITH ZAG'S BOW LET'S GOOOOO

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i'm thinking about turning off the bonus damage on traps, I lost way too many death defiances on ||Soul jars|| recently

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||NOOOOOOO||
||IT WAS ALL A DREAM?!||

pliant sparrow
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whut turn off heightened security

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that is one of the single most difficult and painful heat point

timid compass
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well
i did took 200 dmg in one room from only sawblades once and lost death defiance
so time to replace it with something else

hushed pumice
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Heightened Security is a trap ๐Ÿ˜œ

timid compass
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What if instead of fighting the furies everytime you exit tartarus hades just goes "you girls suck so I'm gonna fire you all" and everytime you enter the boss room there's no one so you're just like ": ("

timid compass
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I forgot how funny the interaction is when you use an ultimate call from a god who's attacking you

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I pressed the button and artemis went "I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS"

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DID I JUST GOT A BUTTERFLY STACK FROM EM3 THESEUS AND ASTERIUS?

shadow coral
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good to know there's an interaction for that @timid compass

timid compass
hallow gate
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Hi

timid compass
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||You ever just beat EM4 hades only to die from running into a wall?||

errant coral
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Hey people! I have a question about cross saves.

I own Hades on PC and switch. I have enabled cross save between the two systems. On PC, I have save files in slots 1, 3, and 4. On switch, I had a save file on slot 1 only.

When I use cross save on switch, my PC save slots 3 and 4 appear on my Switch, accompanied by "Green Cloud Checkmark" icons. However, save slot 1 does not appear to sync my PC data, and is accompanied by a "Yellow Cloud Question Mark" icon. How can I get my PC save in slot 1 over to my switch properly?

I suspect that if I delete my Switch save slot 1, then my PC save slot 1 will sync properly. But I do not want to delete my Switch save slot 1 unless I know this will be the case. Any help?

manic bobcat
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maybe try in #h1-tech-support ? Though I think you can just copy your profile1.sav on the switch and put it somewhere on your computer to keep it. Replace it with your pc save and it should be ok. But do ask the more knowledgeable people first. I might not know what im takling about.

timid compass
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I finally have a strong bond with every character possible!

shadow coral
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@manic bobcat you have to have a hackable switch to do that, but it does work

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that's what I did...5 days before the update of cross-saves came out lol

upbeat sigil
brisk trail
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did they tie cross save enabling to story unlocks?

upbeat sigil
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also, to further elaborate, you can just copy paste your pc saves to a different location on the system to serve as a backup, then try deleting with no repercussions

upbeat sigil
errant coral
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I'll post this question in the tech support channel, thanks!

manic bobcat
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how about this, you have save 1 2 3 on pc, save 1 on switch.
Step 1: Copy your save 1 on pc to another slot. This will allow the 1st slot to open while keeping the save itself.
Step 2: Sync your saves. Now you have on PC save 1 swtich, save 2 pc, save 3 pc.
Step 3: Copy save 1 switch to another location on PC and return the original save 1 pc.
Step 4: Delete save 1 on swtich
Step 5: Sync one more time and you get save 1 2 3 pc while having a sav1 switch back up in some location in PC

brisk trail
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no, I meant do you need to get a certain dialogue from Hermes before he gives you the olympian floppy disk

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and do you get dialogue that points to your cross saving

upbeat sigil
brisk trail
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shame

upbeat sigil
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well, i think it is, since i didn't have to do anything

brisk trail
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breaking the 4th wall is the best

upbeat sigil
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i honestly disagree, i'm glad it's available from the start, good for accessibility

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would be annoying for some people to have to wait to use a feature like that

brisk trail
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i would gladly give up accessibility to get quirky charm

upbeat sigil
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although I wouldn't have minded if they put in a piece of dialogue for if you already had the game, and then installed the crossplay update

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something like you said, hermes promising to run around and save your progress as fast as he can on all the devices

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lol

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but I also don't care much that they didn't

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i'm just excited that cross-saves are here

misty jolt
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Doing a run right now looking for Athena dash. Somehow get her legendary before the dash.....

upbeat sigil
#

wack

brisk trail
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lol rip

misty jolt
#

Have seen Athena since Tartarus, in elysium now

frigid abyss
#

you ever just be playing bow and choose the chaos boon that makes you take damage every time you attack

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๐Ÿ˜ฉ

timid compass
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I hope in the future if smash bros gets a new game they'll make one dedicated to adding indie characters
and we might see a certain zag boi ๐Ÿ‘€

desert lance
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how do I get final aspect of the rail ? I got the dialogue from zeus where he mention the adamant rail but I didn't get the second dialogue from him to unlock the waking phrase

winter harbor
#

Did you put enough titan blood into sword?

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And unlocked ||guan yu||?

#

If you have, I'm afraid it's just bad RNG

desert lance
#

no , but i thought since he gave me first dialogue i could get the second

brisk trail
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I'm pretty sure u just gotta keep talking to him

desert lance
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how much do I have to put in the sword ?

winter harbor
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||5||

desert lance
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ok thanks

winter harbor
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Er, sorry, I meant rail

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But you need that number of titan blood for rail

#

My mind was on a different weapon

manic bobcat
#

Darren Korb is doing a live interview in the Hermes Cup stream, fyi

low nexus
#

I like strong drink from wine god

winter harbor
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I got a fairly late strong drink one time, but it was still worth it because of the full heal

low nexus
#

Hate it when you miss fishing spots

brisk trail
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shame on you

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those fish

solar berry
#

||chamber music|| question: I'm still missing one song, ||whatever is between god of the dead and on the coast (across from the exalted)|| I'm end game and trying to complete my collection. Help?

distant night
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@solar berry talk to dio, it's his special song that should come in that space
the only requirements are those: ||(Must be composed by Orpheus after specific dialogue with Dionysus)||

low nexus
#

Support fire is so good w gauntlet s

distant night
#

support fire is almost always just chefs kiss

low nexus
#

Just that free dps

distant night
#

mmmh yes

low nexus
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Its so tasty

distant night
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honestly the only good artemis tier 2 boon for the late run

low nexus
#

Its just so good

distant night
#

hunters mark, hunter instinct, hide breaker? yeah no ||father dearest|| only wears capes

winter harbor
#

Lately I've been taking athena keepsake for her attack/special and she offers me her dash

low nexus
#

Btw i only beateb a run twice so please refain from spoilers pls

distant night
#

her dash is so good nonetheless, but i feel you bro

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the spoilers will all be ||contained||

solar berry
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@distant night ||is it part of the prank thing where I got orpheus to think we're connected and all that and he makes hymn to zagreus, but nothing new about dio...||

winter harbor
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I mean, I take her dash anyway, but I'm really hoping for that wombo combo of deadly reversal and heart rend in the same run

distant night
winter harbor
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And deadly reversal requires her attack/special

solar berry
#

@distant night doesn't even come up as an option to buy. ||zag's yes, bought and done, but nothing in that other space.||

distant night
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OH my bad i looked in the wrong line

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you need to ||fight hades with EM4||

winter harbor
#

This channel getting a case of the brain farts

distant night
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i went one further up shadegrief

winter harbor
#

I'm guilty of that too

solar berry
#

oof. Yep, haven't done that yet. ::cracks knuckles::

distant night
#

good luck ;-;

winter harbor
#

If it helps any, you don't have to win

distant night
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thats true

winter harbor
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Not sure how long you have to survive for the music tho

distant night
#

but it still feels bad man ๐Ÿ˜‚

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you just gotta fight him, not even a question of surviving

winter harbor
#

I thought maybe you have to live until the ||third phase||

solar berry
#

oh, if I don't have to win then easy peasy lemon squeasy. lol

distant night
#

i'm sorry i forgot how to read for a sec kindyll ;-;

winter harbor
#

Yeah, it would be ridiculous to expect you to win on your first time

distant night
#

could still be the case since the wiki isnt perfect buttttttt from remembering my first time fighting it? i dont think it's needed

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tbh tho i'd rather fight ||EM4|| than ||EM2 with HS|| ๐Ÿ˜”

worn ember
#

Is it decent if i beat the game in 55 minutes my first time?

warped iron
#

first run or first completion?

worn ember
#

First completion

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I beat the game in 10 attempts

warped iron
#

๐Ÿ‘Œ I'd say the attempts count matters more in this case because you're new

#

(which means you did pretty well, based on other posts I've seen here)

worn ember
#

Nice

winter harbor
#

Yeah, that looks fairly good to me

worn ember
#

Btw the game is great and i understand now why it has 93 on metacritic

rancid vapor
#

Never give up lmao
Hmm the link is broken

manic bobcat
#

saved

rancid vapor
loud flame
#

I'm getting to a point in the game where characters don't have new dialogue shadegrief

prisma wind
#

Are you post-epilogue?

loud flame
#

no?

prisma wind
#

Ah, well there's definitely a lot more dialog ahead of you then, just a matter of making progress

loud flame
#

oh ok

burnt breach
#

it will be in the next update of Pony's Qol

narrow hemlock
#

pony do u rest

burnt breach
narrow hemlock
burnt breach
manic bobcat
#

you can't just ask a modder if they rest

narrow hemlock
#

do it for bouldy

burnt breach
tired sundial
#

Bouldy is counting on you

burnt breach
#

Also, it doesn't matter which victory message is displayed, any message you qualify for will be marked as completed in the codex

timid compass
#

wut
Is the "commendations" page a mod?

#

I scrolled up and it seems it is

#

pretty cool

manic bobcat
#

it is

burnt breach
timid compass
#

don't some of these titles have ridiculous requirements?

burnt breach
#

yup

#

like insane levels

timid compass
#

how bad does it gets?

burnt breach
#

let me pull up a few examples

distant night
#

cracks knuckles

burnt breach
distant night
#

my casts are ready

timid compass
#

more like cracks bloodstone

distant night
#

cracks hands that will handle 3 bloodstones until 1000 times

timid compass
#

(which is inside your knuckne I guess but whatev)

tired sundial
#

Preparing to call the gods and have them do all the work.

burnt breach
distant night
#

burgers

timid compass
#

b o r g a r

distant night
#

i thought they were gyros

tired sundial
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Borg

distant night
#

i dont want to eat asterius ;-;

calm laurel
#

'Olympus Caller'
Cries in Dionysus and Zeus

timid compass
#

Do you think asterius has 4 stomachs like real cows?

burnt breach
distant night
#

'Olympus Caller'
i wont forget about you this time, Artemis

timid compass
#

that's a very specific one

distant night
#

ohh i have that once i think

burnt breach
#

those are the most ridiculous ones imo

distant night
#

used to be obsessed with troves

radiant estuary
#

I'm stealing that burger one for a friend I know just sayin

timid compass
#

Then there's the 12 minutes run which I'll never get because I wanna take my time and enjoy the scenery

distant night
#

aww

#

i almost got it but 5 sack ๐Ÿ™‚

timid compass
#

or just look around every room for golden pots

distant night
#

will i try again? no

timid compass
#

you mean 5 rooms satyr ๐ŸŽท ?

distant night
#

yes

burnt breach
#

anyway once I get it tested I'll publish this update

timid compass
#

cerberus sure loves ๐ŸŽท

frigid abyss
#

im never getting any of those lmao

#

maybe the cast one

distant night
#

probably wagyu level of good ifyou ask him

#

imagine if it was always a 3 sack but you can come back for more and feed him more making him happy

burnt breach
#

for the cast you can just sit in a room and spam it

timid compass
#

oh that sounds like my idea of fun

distant night
#

bet it'll feel good with hermes artemis and chaos cast bonuses

frigid abyss
#

hope u dont get a skull room ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

burnt breach
#

I don't know why they set it to such a huge threshold

distant night
timid compass
#

maybe they didn't anticipated that the cast would be so much less useful than attack and special

burnt breach
frigid abyss
#

i think the cast is pretty useful

#

but it depends on your build

timid compass
#

or maybe it's for the true cast lovers

distant night
#

that makes me wonder, how often do you genuinely attack or special in one run

frigid abyss
#

it's me, the cast apologist

timid compass
#

depends of weapon

distant night
#

yes

#

i wanna know all the stats

timid compass
#

you'll attack much more with fists than arrow

frigid abyss
#

i looked at how many enemies ive killed and i was shadefear

distant night
#

would it also be insanely different per aspect of just with some?

timid compass
#

can you beat hades in half a [dash button] press?

distant night
#

cause i feel like you definitively special more with any other shield than hidden

distant night
frigid abyss
#

idk with a poseidon sword u might not be attacking very much for example

distant night
#

oh true i always forget poseidon aspect exists shadegrief

timid compass
#

same

warped iron
#

@burnt breach you didn't post the one for ending a run with literally zero coins

#

smh

frigid abyss
#

again, it's me, the cast apologist

distant night
#

it's ok but you just really....... dont use it

timid compass
#

I ignored it for a long time until I realized it increases cast dmg too

#

(still didn't tried it)

winter harbor
#

I use it when I feel like playing a cast build

distant night
timid compass
#

sounds much less fun than hera or ||beo||

winter harbor
#

And I havenโ€™t leveled up my nemesis at all

frigid abyss
#

ZERO coins

warped iron
#

yes legit zero coins

distant night
#

ZErรณ

timid compass
#

but
how

warped iron
#

i dunno

frigid abyss
#

couldnt be me i hoard coins

timid compass
#

just spend it all in one place, mate!

burnt breach
#

the opposite is the 2000+ coins one

warped iron
#

that one's not as hard though

frigid abyss
distant night
waxen loom
timid compass
#

tf is a pauper

warped iron
#

a poor guy

timid compass
#

isn't it the baby of a daug?

warped iron
#

no lmao

frigid abyss
#

that's paupers...that's paupchamp

#

ok i am sleeping now

timid compass
#

paupsechamp

burnt breach
timid compass
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I'm sleeping too

alpine yacht
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I just realized, cause of your chat, that I ruined a perfect 0 coins screenshot by using Bouldy and picking up the coins...

burnt breach
alpine yacht
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Whoa, which mod is that? ๐Ÿ˜„

burnt breach
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Pony's Quality of Lifeโ„ข๏ธ

alpine yacht
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Lovely

burnt breach
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that specific feature I haven't published yet tho, need to find a tester

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too many times I've published something only for it to not work for some users

alpine yacht
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What feature would that be? Pick a run and go to a specific spot? ๐Ÿ˜›

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Or clear/add resources

burnt breach
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I guess you were not in the chat earlier so I'll repost the link

distant night
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the codex in normal game feels so empty now seeing this ;-;

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dont tell me you also added hammer boons info

alpine yacht
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he did indeed

distant night
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goddamnit

alpine yacht
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I don't quite get how this codex thing is gonna help me get the coin title, but your mod is brilliant regardless

distant night
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well the codex just shows all subtitles

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so you actually know what you can aspire to get

burnt breach
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if you finish a run and qualified for it (doesn't need for it to be displayed) it will be marked as completed in the codex

distant night
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:o

alpine yacht
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Oh that's nice

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I assume I did not qualify for it though since I picked up 30 pieces of gold before the end

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Cause of bouldy

distant night
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i'm happy there aint no prophecy for getting all these titles is required

alpine yacht
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It was just an unlucky moment of dummy me

burnt breach
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for that specific one you need to clear the run with 0 coins in hand

alpine yacht
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Aye

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I had 1200, got the blood, then went and used bouldy on daddy

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QQ

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Sooner or later I'll get that title...

burnt breach
alpine yacht
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I had that one like 10+ times haha

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Big old save file

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If I start trying to collect all titles I'll be in for a long long ride I guess

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Just sad to have missed that one

alpine yacht
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Gotta tidy up those hearts first, then upgrade my health-bar style....if by that point I don't get all titles I doubt I'll ever try xaxa

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We do need a prophecy for them though, otherwise no way for me to track it

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Too many runs!

burnt breach
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@distant night @alpine yacht update is live on nexus if you're interested

radiant estuary
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OK, quick question, I have a pick between Ice Win and Scintilating Feast right now, which would be better assuming I don't run into the other by the end of the run?

burnt breach
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hey that's not a bad idea

cunning kettle
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So, |||demeter||| crystal cast is fun, and it just obliterates enemies that don't move. Add in Exagraf with Zeus bullets, and I'm having a fun time just witteling away the hydra

bright nymph
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Is adamant rail like actually bad or do i just suck or both

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because i feel like my build was pretty decent but it did not do much

narrow hemlock
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bad build, the weapons are all fairly well balanced

brisk trail
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I can't believe I legit like every weapon

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that's awesome

nocturne copper
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im not good with rail

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but zeus on atk with rail is residentzag

faint flint
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spear is garbage tho

brisk trail
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zag spear is garbage*

low minnow
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Zag spear dot build is decent

old plover
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I'm pretty sure my bond with Dusa got removed

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every time I speak with her its it doesn't progress anything

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I have already given her ambrosia

waxen juniper
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Give it time

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Relationships take time.

old plover
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aight

brisk trail
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level up the lounge

waxen juniper
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They wouldn't of been able to give the ambrosia if they didn't

brisk trail
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oh ic

waxen juniper
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Yep. So they genuinely just have to give it some time.

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Maybe beat up some shades to take your mind off of it

wooden fulcrum
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I have a question. Why is Zagreus British??

waxen juniper
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Hmmm, I feel like that reveals itself later on in the game. At least in terms of continuity

wooden fulcrum
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It does?

waxen juniper
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Have you beat the final boss yet?

wooden fulcrum
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Ya

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Met ||mom||

waxen juniper
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Okay. Didn't ||Persephone|| sound a bit British to you?

wooden fulcrum
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Yo that's what I meant tho. Aren't they Greek?

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I'm confused by Zagreus having a British accent ||even thoigh he wasn't raised be Persephone. Accents aren't hereditary lol||

waxen juniper
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I'm not sure I have an answer for you

wooden fulcrum
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It's okay, It was somethibg that plagued my mind for a lil bit rent free

waxen juniper
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No worries. Maybe someone might have a better answer.

wooden fulcrum
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Yeah!

wooden fulcrum
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Ooo i got it! Thank you!

cunning kettle
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Good news! I've been to the final boss twice! Bad news, lost both times.

brisk trail
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you'll get em eventually, keep at it!

waxen juniper
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Yep! Just takes practice :)

cunning kettle
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Yep. I know my build is good enough. And I can generally get to the third stage without burning a Death Defiance. The problem is after that

waxen juniper
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Styx and the Final Boss are the true test to see if you actually have a decent build/know how to work with it

brisk trail
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styx is also a great place to get big upgrades

cunning kettle
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Yeah. I just caught a bad break ||and ate a facefull of laser and green vase at the same time||

waxen juniper
waxen juniper
brisk trail
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wanna know a strat for the lasers

cunning kettle
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sure!

brisk trail
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||hug your dad||

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literally

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not with the 3 laser attack tho, just with the omnidirectional one

cunning kettle
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||wait, what?||

waxen juniper
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Yep! The ||hitbox for the lasers|| is starts further away than you might think

opaque nexus
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hi everyone, BLOODTHANY DARKNESSTANO here, the internet's buseiness Hades nerd

waxen juniper
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What'd I miss?

cunning kettle
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huh. That does indeed work. Thanks for the tip!

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Time to get back to my run after the song ends

brisk trail
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npnp

waxen juniper
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Although I may be the only one, I do hope they fix that at some point.

brisk trail
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I like it bc it's high risk high reward

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ur either doing a ton of damage or eating like 100 damage from lasers

waxen juniper
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Is it easy to mess up?

brisk trail
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casting can push u into the lasers

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you either get it right or you get vaporized LOL

waxen juniper
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Oof, that can be deadly

cunning kettle
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Right. Back at ||Hades||One ||Skelly's Tooth|| remaining, and I lucked into ||Stubborn Roots||

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Time to give it a go again

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Did it!

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Beat ||Hades||

waxen juniper
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Rock on! :D

cunning kettle
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||Stubborn Roots||Pretty much saved me

manic bobcat
cunning kettle
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Right. Time to go to bed for me. I'm thinking of doing a Shield run next. Anyone got any tips for Shield?

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Also, can Shield block ||Hades' Laser?||

prisma wind
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Yes

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Generally speaking, shield can block anything directly in front of it

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It can be a little iffy on angles and AoEs

waxen juniper
unborn anchor
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Speaking of shields, Zag can't be wall slammed, right? I haven't experimented well enough to be sure.

prisma wind
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I don't believe so, no. At least, I've never seen it happen

unborn anchor
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That would make Slicing shot with all the bells and whistles then hiding in a corner with your shield a valid build for all heat levels.

prisma wind
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Turtling can work sometimes but it depends on the chamber and the enemies, and definitely wouldn't encompass all heat levels

unborn anchor
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Would be viable at least until I finish the story line.

manic bobcat
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Fair enough

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The problem with ๐Ÿข is Tight Deadline.

prisma wind
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Hey, if it works for you then that's great!

manic bobcat
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But if you don't take it, you can go far, sure.

unborn anchor
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5 minutes should be enough, but the problem is actually getting the boons

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I haven't tried underworld customs yet. It looks like a very big pain to deal with

unborn anchor
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Oh. Wow. Fighting ||Hades ||with Aphrodite's Unhealthy Fixation was an experience.

narrow hemlock
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@unborn anchor the final boss is considered a spoiler in this channel, can you please spoiler tag?

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thank you ๐Ÿ’•

stark onyx
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what's the world record for heat

brisk trail
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58 rn

stark onyx
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ok ty!! tailesque has it i think?

brisk trail
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yup

lone sinew
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58 happened some hours ago

stark onyx
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its insane because like i dont think anyone would expect ||RAMA|| of all aspects to have the world record

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yeye im watching their run right now!!

brisk trail
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we might see 59 soon

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and then max heat eventually

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some madlad will do it

tired sundial
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The madness intensifies

stark onyx
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yeah!!! its honestly insanity

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i dont think the programmers even think this is possible

lone sinew
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max heat... uhmm e4 and no dd at all and the rest of the pact

tired sundial
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Some like the heat
Whereas
Some prefer an inferno

lone sinew
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idk if we are going to ever see it

brisk trail
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hence why the madlad statement

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people will try

tired sundial
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Eventually people will mod in more insane ways to make it difficult at this rate

brisk trail
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someone will do it eventually

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i think there's a mod that makes heat go up to 99

tired sundial
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Oh no