#h1-discussion
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omg beyblade lmao
is there extreme measures Cerberus
Extremer measures
because if not, thats a missided opportunity
||yesn't||
Ask in spoiler channel if you want to know
No but there is ||a extreme messures hade who summon cerberus||
While extreme measures 3 make Asterius hella stronger, it makes Theseus weaker.
EM3 makes him to have lower HP for next phase (God Call)
Yup lel
||so skelly wants me to hit him with aspect of zagreus sword but max leveled?||
yep
thats a bunch of titan blood
just 5
yeah but its going into an aspect i dont really use haha
fair
it needs to be that aspect
it works only with Zag's
Only max zag aspect
Anyone notice they get their keepsake boon spawning in the higher heat erebis gates that they can't enter?
Usually in Elysium
the boon will spawn again as long as you dont take the gate, so its not that big a deal if it happens
@patent bobcat Its hard to come by till your mostly done with ambrosia for the keepsake/people important for you then you can get a lot by trading. Like 3.5 blood per pact run
alma guess I got unlucky a few times last night. Elysium is so short it never spawned elsewhere.
Stuff like hammers hermes gold hearts etc
Also tried taking one into Styx for Artemis and just got only zeus and aphro in the shop and tunnels. Not sure if they work for styx
is it possible you used it before in the run? it doesnt refresh per biome
it keeps the rarity bonus but the guaranteed boon is once per run
Definetly likely. Didnt know that.
IS THERE GOING TO BE A SEQUEL
Sgg has not done a sequel before
A spin off fishing simulator
pick up the current chamber reward?
fast E
yeah
loooooool
i just thought it was funny
oh artemis really dun want you to have her boon lol
Artemis is canonically hard to get lol
hahaha
how on earth did you manage that, i didn't even notice it at first lol
omg
artemis is just shy ๐ ๐
She is! Even out in them lava fields lol
hiding behind the graves
as one does
"just dont notice me"
zag: erm, lady artemis...
artemis: Perish.
loooool
get crispy 
๐ฅ
I'm in a video call with Mr. Rao rn
this is insane
dm me if you want a ss
for proof
o.O

same XD
Poggers
oh my, all the mods are away or on do not disturb, yall good? D:

acl raid
i see but what
ACL RAID GOGOGOGOGO
what is an acl
its a school
self-dox
ez
๐๏ธ
when you cant remember names
ALWAYS WATCHING....
i dont doubt that for a sec, just checking up on yall lovelies


We pushed bouldy too far
Bouldy.. moved
The bould and the brave
The bould and the beautiful
The bould and Sisyphus
the bould is the beautiful
Such curves

as all boulds should be
rolling you say huh? I think Bouldy might know Rick
do you think sisyphus calls all tiny pieces of bould that can come off when bould moves mini-boulds
BOULDY'S NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP
Rick... boulled
Oh no he dosent know rick.. HE IS RICK
bould rolled
Bloody brilliant
rick bouldy rolled
I can't with any of this lol
wow what? maybe that's possible...
I want to meet them
i hope all tartarus pebbles are mini-boulds
The real ending is meeting the mini boulds???
not me going out on the courtyard rn to paint a bouldy face on every single pebble :DDD
but brb

The real ending was the inanimate objects we befriended along the way
shield special
why do you suck so much
like
there is one fury sister attacking me
why do you want to fly off for two hours
just apply your bloody debuff and come back
"I would do anything for a glimpse of Aphrodite!"
"Cause of Death: Dehydration"
Man thirsted so hard he died
man this game is so addictive
Yes
yes
im mad at it though because gloves ๐ฉ
any tips for final boss on gloves? do i just have to be fast
Try to dash away before he telegraphs attacks
Hide behind the big posts during the spinny fire move
Dash to dodge. Don't panic.
how do I avoid ||getting sniped by hades's spear in EM4?|| do I have to keep moving? is there a window of time when I can attack him back?
deflects
If i jump down to the chaos hole will the item on the door above the hole be the same as inside?
no I dont think so
thanks
no prob
what would that be? 
alright
are you sure it's an exploit or
an actual game mechanic
cause there's stuff like athena SD
which can look like a bug but isn't
i guess you could f10, maybe?
wdym can always build with lvl7+
anw, i'm not sure what it is so cant say if it's worth contacting sg but f10 should still work tho it's not a bug
or contact supergiants on their website form
any difficulty sounds a bit of a stretch tho, the game gets hard with more and more heat
does giving nectar to charon lead to anything?
so besides the first nectar, there is no reason to do it?
but if it was truly game-breaking it'd have been discovered by now, i feel
one day ill try a 100% run
..after i beat my first run lol
take your time
but i hit my gift limit for hypnos and i cant seem to get past his locked heart
what
59?
the highest record so far is 58
actually, 57
the maximum is 63/64
boon levels alone shouldn't do the work though
there's also #h1-tech-support
I'll never give up my spear. I love that thing to death
same
i still want a sub 15 run with every weapon not just the spear
speed is key
I'm trying for a sub 30 run and maybe I'll try a sub 25 run but I think that's as good as I'll get. I've just never played a game genre like this so I'm not the best ^^;
i forgot you can give nectar to charon...
i feel you mars
im still just trying to beat the game on all weapons ๐ฉ
78 hours in
which give you issues jiggly?
im on my last one which is gloves
anything where i have to play aggressively seems to be a weak point lol
I thought gloves were difficult at first, but I guess, treat it like you would the rail
doing heat under 30 hours...don't tell me ur bad at this game
small, fast hits like dionysus and zeus
200h and i have yet to beat all on 10 ||heat|| because i like spear too much and have it on 31 ||heat|| ๐
I think gloves is my favorite weapon but it's close between that and sword
ohh which aspect of le fists?
i play on keyboard/mouse so i feel like that makes gloves more challenging?
gloves just need a nice cast that can decimate multiple from afar
@winter harbor What aspect do you prefer?
I also play on keyboard/mouse
since you mostly can only focus attack one
what kind of casts
auto aim helps so much
i don't really have any issues with mobs, it's the bosses that get me
I think I prefer Demeter fists at the moment but you really need to put some titan blood into it for it to be good
which aspect?
maybe go for aphro attack ares special athena dash to do big damage but still get some nice coverage in?
@winter harbor Yeah, that's next on my list for upgrades. I really want to try Deadly flourish on it.
i did like ares special when i got that. maybe i'll try aphro?
i've been doing demeter which i like but ๐ฉ
aphro makes the enemies weaker and gives the biggest damage boost
so getting it on the attack is sexy
oh that is sexy
and also if you go ares-aphro definitively have priviledged status in your mirror maxed
I only won my run with heightened security because I got aphro legendary on fists
it's so incredibly sexy
hey thats my favorite build!
yes stacked effects rule
maybe even with demeter or dio on calls
i will try this! i am tired of getting rekt ๐ฉ
good luck!
any aspect advice
I go for ares call
i have two titan blood
i love that build for bow and fists so much ๐ฉ
its amazing for spear too!!
@frigid abyss Only 2 total?
but not chiron bow
yeah i have spent the others
talos is sexy, but demeter is also beautiful
talos kinda gives you an option to have one kinda ranged attack
i like the spear because im realizing im a pretty aggro kind of player here so spear has that *chefs kiss * balance of range and close
so if you feel more comfy with that, go for it
if you feel like you get nice attack combos going definitively go for demeter
Yeah, I like how talos makes fists pseudo ranged
yeah when i played rail i used it a lot more like a ranged weapon
im more comfortable with ranged stuff in general i think
for me spear feels a bit mechanically awkward on controller
try talos then definitively!
on m&kb you can really abuse dash attack though
but first get used to its special on skelly
@brisk trail 100% agreed
laughs in playing every weapon as a melee weapon and getting rekt by bow as a result
yes
the howl of laughter i made when I unlocked the rail and realize its. a literal gun. they gave zag a gun
that's what i tried with bow then i followed some reddit advice and beat the game with bow in two tries ๐ฉ
my build was broken tho
thinking of spear achilles dashattack and spin camping is just so good ๐ฉ ๐
whenever i feel sad i hit it up with ||em4|| and feel good again
may the gods grant you beautiful boons!!!
Is hell mode only a more difficult mode and without god mode? Or do we get better rewards aswell?
thank you ๐
Same rewards but you have to go up to higher heat to get all the rewards
better mental rewards but else the rewards ingame stay the same
and it has personal liability which removes that brief shield of invincibility after getting a big hit
thanks
Wish i started in hell mode before, god mode kinda ruined the fun in the normal mode. Is there a way to turn my old save into hell mode?
or only possible through new game?
No, you have to start with hell mode
thanks
Hell mode also has one additional pact of punishment condition.
Oh, someone already said that xD
you could also turn off god mode
i mean, if you didn't know that already
I guess the fact that it's there is bothering for some (me included)
Yeah, but I don't blame the guy not wanting to do that, saves are recorded differently between godmode and non
how so?
do you get a symbol of some sort?
I have around 60 hours playtime until I figured out that godmode even exists
You get a boon from having god mode active and run wins are recorded differently
ah, in the archives?
There's an icon on the save if you have god mode activated at the time of saving but I'm 99% sure it disappears if you disable god mode before saving.
And on the victory screen
I see
whats the mode most people play?
Normal (without godmode)
Normal (with godmode)
Or hellmode?
not hellmode for sure
dunno how many actually use god mode
i dont know what any of that means so I guess I'm playing normal w/out godmode
God mode kind of ruins the game, I don't really like the way they implemented it.
Probably normal without god mode
it's there for people who need it.
Because that's what speedrunners use
That's cool but let's not take it away from the players who use it
It's singleplayer anyway
is there not a single downside to godmode?
And even if you use god mode at first, there's nothing stopping you from switching out of it later if you feel you've mastered enemy patterns
The problem is that the more you use god mode, the harder it is to disable.
By which I mean, the greater the damage increase will be.
I just got the zagreus shield current update speedrun record
I've seen people talk about wanting to reset it to base dr, yeah
It would be nice if you could (at least optionally) reduce or reset the damage reduction.
they should have just made an easy mode -> normal mode -> hellmode
niceee
I was so close to beating bablo's 7:57 1.0 time
zoooom
Like if successful clears lowered the %.
it was 8:18 in the end
i don't see how that's better 
the way hades does difficulty settings is great
like dys said, there are people who start with godmode and eventually take it off
makes it a lot more accessible
I think turning on god mode kind of lessens the triumphant feeling of beating the last boss for the first time
^
but I'm not gonna be an elitist and say don't use it
I AM
exactly
I'm just giving my thoughts
I was considering using it if it took me longer than 22 hours to beat the game for the first time
i didn't use it because i didn't want to
Why 22 specifically...?
Why 22 hours? Because that's how long it took me to beat Slay the Spire for the first time
Oh.
and the game is built around you dying a lot trying to win
But I beat it within 16 hours so it didn't get used
that is how story progresses
Lol, we're in the same boat. I am 40 hours in and then realized there's a god mode for whatever reason and it demotivated me like crazy and I ended up quitting the game.
how do i go about reporting bugs? i had a game last night where burn-flinger/inferno-bomber/slam-dancer were dropping athena cast projectiles on death
I know they're different style of roguelites but still, that's how I measure progress
I suck at these kinds of games, played for a while before I turned god mode on and left it on for maybe 60 hours? I've turned it off and am almost as far in progression w/o it. I just felt like not having mirror traits and a few other things early makes it a struggle for people who aren't as good maybe? I'm glad I am playing with it turned off now I'll say that.
f10 or #h1-tech-support
thanks
yeee I also lost my motivation kinda because of it. not sure what to do about it lol
that's probably you deflecting their death bombs, they look a lot like her cast
Has anyone else encountered the bug that the acorn doesn't work when fighting the bull miniboss?
I think the way hades is designed makes it feel like a huge undertaking
it only works in the final area
No, that's intended
@sour vigil Not a bug afaik, only works on final boss encounters
and you start to hear more about the characters which makes you want to escape even more
It only works when fighting the boss, not any minibosses
oh. that could be it. in that case, i'll see if i can replicate before i report
Oh. Wow, I need to learn to read.
i liked dying, it meant i got to talk to friends
^
I thought I was the only one thinking this way. glad there are likeminded people lol. godmode killed the fun for me
The only bit of story that I haven't done, AFAIK, is getting the autograph for Hypnos. No idea how to do that.
so hellmode it is
you can also find maxed out saves in speedrun.com
if you dont wanna redo stuff
hell mode is kind unnecessary in my opinion
godmode too
hell mode is too similar to normal imo
this game already allows you to choose whatever difficulty you want
god mode is ok for people who just want the story
only the PL is diff really
The invulnerability debuff is impactful... if you get hit.
having pacts forced on you sucks too
i've never taken CP (although im still at 45 heat)
maybe on fists
Take it once for the prophecy
I took it when I first started because I was like "this doesn't seem so bad"
Turns out, it's pretty bad.
I also took Routine Inspection for a long time before I realized it's probably the worst choice possible.
routine inspection 1 is the single most devastating level of a pact in the game
oh yeah, i thought ri was free
It doesn't feel nice losing your fated persuasion
Actual mood for me
i would say HS is the worst 1 point value
I would not recommend ever taking RI until above 45 heat unless you are using a weapon that sucks with damage control
You can gain some rerolls later but losing the initial rerolls hurts more than you'd think
I think RI is worse, losing dark foresight and 4 rerolls to start severely hinders your ability to put a strong build together
There is a certain appeal to having no rerolls
HS is way worse with DDs than stubborn
with DDs if you make a mistake it hurts you for the rest of the run
true
with stubborn you either get it back the next room or die
HS wouldn't be bad if not for EM2.
not to but in but with DD you can stack them and just go full send on a boss you may have trouble with rather than having a bunch in rooms in which you ideally would never have to use them
honestly i still get surprised when i screw up and step into a trap lmao
SD is good at high heat
And there's one other Asphodel room that I always find really difficult to avoid the lava in.
||anyone else feels really bad when Hades says "Charon...take me home..."? He just sounds so defeated||
I feel so bad
yeah thats fair, I dont have much experience in high heat runs, Ive been progressing one heat at a time with multiple weapons
Never feel bad for the dad
you'll get there!
i did that at the start too, but i realized how much i hated rail and sword
I feel bad for him, hes not a bad dude
Are you like me, always picking the glowing one?
yeah I usually do
I like resources what can I say
That's weird because I feel like the bow is the most broken weapon by far...
rail is just good
i am the opposite of that lmao
like with a good build you can do some nuts damage
if there was an op weapon it'd prolly be eris rail
exactly
Aside from ||Rama||.
they nerfed eris but on eris you should be spamming special anyway
It's incredibly powerful, I'll grant you, but I think it's the worst designed weapon in the game.
||rama|| is great but not in every situation
it is very good but not amazing in speedruns, and amazing in high heat
Eris is good enough for high heat, meta in speedruns, easy to use, and easy to make it strong mid-run
it's hard to rank weapons because there are many different factors
and it's chef's kiss if you get rocket + cluster or triple bomb
I havent unlocked ||rama|| yet but you guys are really making it sound like I should
Why

I've been trying to use ||Beowulf|| but I tend to stray from zag aspects just for them being kinda boring
I've never used Aspect of Zeus, is there a build for it that isn't just memes?
I used it for a while
zeus special
yea
Does it proc on every hit?
it does
yes
O snap
Zeus on zeus
only things zeus doesn't proc every hit on is stuff that hits really really fast in a short amount of time like chiron special
Yeah, I learned that the disappointing way.
its pretty nice I even used it at one blood for a while though probably upgrade it before that
wait chiron doesent proc zeus every hit?
patron on ice
zeus shield is one of my least used weapons
but it has tied heat world record so it's probably pretty good
Yeah I do like it it just was nice to throw it out and wail on your opponent
in reality it's pretty superior to zag shield in most ways but shhhh
That's how I feel about Ares and Hermes casts. So fun to just put them out there and poke.
is the propaganda working
plus with the increased damage after special hit hammer boon it makes every attack deal 80% increased damage
oh I forgot about that
Wait it procs itself every 2 hits then?
yeahhh exactly, like I normally would use ares with the shield and a Hermes cast
I think it only affects attack when its Zeus
Oh okay.
do peoples actually use zeus's cast?
I feel like it's one of the weakest
I got his cast solely to enable sea storm
in speedruns
it is quite fun to use
its good for ad clear
The alternative was his call, which I didn't like because of the lack of invincibility
I love poseidon's cast
@regal vigil I feel like Zeus boons more than any other god get the nuttiest if you stack all of the additional effects.
If not the nuttiest, then definitely the most seizure-inducing.
well. this is Not It.
||Rama|| special spam will literally blind you with enough Zeus boons xD
Ooo that sounds fun
You guys are really hyping up ||Rama|| I'll probably unlock it after my ||Beowulf|| run I have excess blood anyway
Haelian did a run using that build.
Not sure if it was seeded.
there he is
question: what does ||guan yu||'s special changes aside from the fact that it disappears after you throw it?
What am I looking at
mods
I'm still working on it.
I like the idea!
i does like double the usual damage I think
huh
but thats cause theres no recall
is it worth to ||go for a spin build with guan yu even if you can't find boons to decrease the spin charge time or is it better to go for a special build instead?||
low heat maybe, else nah
special or dashattack build works nice but idk which exactly is favored amongst hidden spear
i think i broke the build i made with a hammer ๐ฉ
why did you hit your build with a hammer
๐ฉ
@timid compass I think it's not really impossible to do without the speed buff, it's just not nearly as much fun (in my experience).
Haelian is a great hades player
but damn does he sucks at fishing
I've watched around 10 of his videos
and haven't seen a single great catch
@vestal kestrel What boons?
Thunder flourish
I didn't even know that there were different catches... oh my god I've missed out on so many fishies.
you gotta press the button really fast after something bites to get a chance for a big fish
wait does reaction time factor in!?
Man I never knew
||maybe thats why I keep getting trouts at the surface||
Less than 0.34 second: Perfect catch. Guaranteed to catch a Rare fish. 1/21 (โ 4.76%) chance to catch a Legendary fish
0.34 second to 0.68 second: Catch. 1/21 chance to catch a Rare fish.
I'll be damned.
What are the best mirror upgrades for ||guan yu||?
I like the game. Been grinding it to no ends.
And I'm kinda confused here. Thanatos and Hypnos weren't supposed to be twins? Yet, I think that their faces are different.
Hypnos's face be like some Joker, while Thanatos's be like some cool and collected Batman.

1/21 for a rare fish?
maybe in chaos (curse you projellies) but in elysium I get seamare more than half of the time
Will Hades ever be in a physical version?
also I have a question regarding a lot of the drawings in game
most of them, specifically the trees in the final boss arena and the fish drawings all have small green, pink and blue lines on them
what is that for? is it just an artistic choice? I can't stop thinking about it
Just artistic, yes
I started practicing speedrun yesterday. I just got a perfect seed, but I'm still not good enough to achieve good times RIP
not twins, just brothers born from nyx
I haven't caught a projelly :(
and besides. you could have twins and they dont look alike. called fraternal twins
Want one? I have 7 of them
sorry if not allowed, what are the chances hades will be on sale again on steam?
Please I'm literally only missing that fish
this but with voidskate
I caught voidskate for my first chaos fish hh
my last 5 perfect catches in chaos were all projellies
this is a call for help
meanwhile in elysium and asphodel more than half od my catches are seamares and flameaters
(and of course styx only contains scuffer)
I haven't caught a flameater in a millennium
imagine how much more tedious it would be if the rod of fishing was a keepsake that you had to equip for fishing spots to appear
apparently chaos fishes used to give ambrosia, diamonds and titan bloods
which would explain why they're so rare
but it's no longer the case so can we increase the rate for chaos fishing pools PLEAAASE
which would be better on zag bow: explosive shot or perfect shot?
I just hade zagreus say "just in time" after hearing the thanatos noise
and when he spawned he said "I got here just in time"
I wish there was a special dialogue when you clear one of than's trials without taking damage while using the butterfly
I had a similar one
Zagreus: Death approaches
Thanatos apperas: Death approaches
another but this one is spoiler:
||Zagreus: we are not finished, father!||
||Hades: We are not finished!||
holiday sale starts in a couple of days, it will likely be on sale then
Next you're gonna say: hsssssss!
Lernie: HSSSSSSS!
reminds me of this joke from sparrow
#h1-story-discussion message
zag be like : how did this pottery go down to hell ? meanwhile link goes hnnggghh zzjjjeeeaahh with the pots
i just did a stupid move
I took the daedalus upgrade that makes my arrows inflict more damage in close range
but I also have the poseidon dash, which means when I try to get close to an enemy by dashing on them they'll fly away
(but then again the other upgrades were a special related one and the bouncing arrow)
they arent identical twins they were just born at the same time
Tight Deadline 3 + Extreme Measures maximum is so hard >.<
I'm trying to get used to all extreme measures so they will be the default for me
DIONYSOS BLINKS TOO?
that makes athena, dionysos and ares who have their picture blinking
Tho I'm still getting used to extremer measures
Which one is better for zag bow's atk: artemis for consistent crits or poseidon for the better dmg upgrade?
(I'm in styx temple and there's no aphrodite so she's not an option)
imo its crits
get a powershot crit and dam ded
is the tiny vermin not affected by middle management or did I not noticed the change?
Maybe he's a boss not a miniboss?
some minibosses are not affected by MM
Asterius miniboss, for example, is only affected by EM3
Rly?
only asterius and styx secret boss tho
Oh yeah, because tehnically he's a boss
16 HEAT WITH ZAG'S BOW LET'S GOOOOO
i'm thinking about turning off the bonus damage on traps, I lost way too many death defiances on ||Soul jars|| recently
||NOOOOOOO||
||IT WAS ALL A DREAM?!||
whut turn off heightened security
that is one of the single most difficult and painful heat point
well
i did took 200 dmg in one room from only sawblades once and lost death defiance
so time to replace it with something else
Heightened Security is a trap ๐
What if instead of fighting the furies everytime you exit tartarus hades just goes "you girls suck so I'm gonna fire you all" and everytime you enter the boss room there's no one so you're just like ": ("
I forgot how funny the interaction is when you use an ultimate call from a god who's attacking you
I pressed the button and artemis went "I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS"
DID I JUST GOT A BUTTERFLY STACK FROM EM3 THESEUS AND ASTERIUS?
good to know there's an interaction for that @timid compass
There's more than just an interaction, there's an achievement
Hi
||You ever just beat EM4 hades only to die from running into a wall?||
Hey people! I have a question about cross saves.
I own Hades on PC and switch. I have enabled cross save between the two systems. On PC, I have save files in slots 1, 3, and 4. On switch, I had a save file on slot 1 only.
When I use cross save on switch, my PC save slots 3 and 4 appear on my Switch, accompanied by "Green Cloud Checkmark" icons. However, save slot 1 does not appear to sync my PC data, and is accompanied by a "Yellow Cloud Question Mark" icon. How can I get my PC save in slot 1 over to my switch properly?
I suspect that if I delete my Switch save slot 1, then my PC save slot 1 will sync properly. But I do not want to delete my Switch save slot 1 unless I know this will be the case. Any help?
maybe try in #h1-tech-support ? Though I think you can just copy your profile1.sav on the switch and put it somewhere on your computer to keep it. Replace it with your pc save and it should be ok. But do ask the more knowledgeable people first. I might not know what im takling about.
I finally have a strong bond with every character possible!
@manic bobcat you have to have a hackable switch to do that, but it does work
that's what I did...5 days before the update of cross-saves came out lol
if it only syncs save slot 1, you can probably convert save slots 3 or 4 into save slot 1 by changing the filenames, then sync like that
did they tie cross save enabling to story unlocks?
also, to further elaborate, you can just copy paste your pc saves to a different location on the system to serve as a backup, then try deleting with no repercussions
if by that you mean will story things still be unlocked with cross saving, i can confirm the answer is yes
I'll post this question in the tech support channel, thanks!
how about this, you have save 1 2 3 on pc, save 1 on switch.
Step 1: Copy your save 1 on pc to another slot. This will allow the 1st slot to open while keeping the save itself.
Step 2: Sync your saves. Now you have on PC save 1 swtich, save 2 pc, save 3 pc.
Step 3: Copy save 1 switch to another location on PC and return the original save 1 pc.
Step 4: Delete save 1 on swtich
Step 5: Sync one more time and you get save 1 2 3 pc while having a sav1 switch back up in some location in PC
no, I meant do you need to get a certain dialogue from Hermes before he gives you the olympian floppy disk
and do you get dialogue that points to your cross saving
ohhh, no it's unlocked immediately
shame
well, i think it is, since i didn't have to do anything
breaking the 4th wall is the best
i honestly disagree, i'm glad it's available from the start, good for accessibility
would be annoying for some people to have to wait to use a feature like that
i would gladly give up accessibility to get quirky charm
although I wouldn't have minded if they put in a piece of dialogue for if you already had the game, and then installed the crossplay update
something like you said, hermes promising to run around and save your progress as fast as he can on all the devices
lol
but I also don't care much that they didn't
i'm just excited that cross-saves are here
Doing a run right now looking for Athena dash. Somehow get her legendary before the dash.....
wack
lol rip
Have seen Athena since Tartarus, in elysium now
you ever just be playing bow and choose the chaos boon that makes you take damage every time you attack
๐ฉ
I hope in the future if smash bros gets a new game they'll make one dedicated to adding indie characters
and we might see a certain zag boi ๐
how do I get final aspect of the rail ? I got the dialogue from zeus where he mention the adamant rail but I didn't get the second dialogue from him to unlock the waking phrase
Did you put enough titan blood into sword?
And unlocked ||guan yu||?
If you have, I'm afraid it's just bad RNG
no , but i thought since he gave me first dialogue i could get the second
I'm pretty sure u just gotta keep talking to him
how much do I have to put in the sword ?
||5||
ok thanks
Er, sorry, I meant rail
But you need that number of titan blood for rail
My mind was on a different weapon
Darren Korb is doing a live interview in the Hermes Cup stream, fyi
I like strong drink from wine god
I got a fairly late strong drink one time, but it was still worth it because of the full heal
Hate it when you miss fishing spots
||chamber music|| question: I'm still missing one song, ||whatever is between god of the dead and on the coast (across from the exalted)|| I'm end game and trying to complete my collection. Help?
@solar berry talk to dio, it's his special song that should come in that space
the only requirements are those: ||(Must be composed by Orpheus after specific dialogue with Dionysus)||
Support fire is so good w gauntlet s
support fire is almost always just chefs kiss
Just that free dps
mmmh yes
Its so tasty
honestly the only good artemis tier 2 boon for the late run
Its just so good
hunters mark, hunter instinct, hide breaker? yeah no ||father dearest|| only wears capes
Lately I've been taking athena keepsake for her attack/special and she offers me her dash
Btw i only beateb a run twice so please refain from spoilers pls
her dash is so good nonetheless, but i feel you bro
the spoilers will all be ||contained||
@distant night ||is it part of the prank thing where I got orpheus to think we're connected and all that and he makes hymn to zagreus, but nothing new about dio...||
I mean, I take her dash anyway, but I'm really hoping for that wombo combo of deadly reversal and heart rend in the same run
and you couldnt buy the song yet?
And deadly reversal requires her attack/special
@distant night doesn't even come up as an option to buy. ||zag's yes, bought and done, but nothing in that other space.||
This channel getting a case of the brain farts
i went one further up 
I'm guilty of that too
oof. Yep, haven't done that yet. ::cracks knuckles::
good luck ;-;
If it helps any, you don't have to win
thats true
Not sure how long you have to survive for the music tho
but it still feels bad man ๐
you just gotta fight him, not even a question of surviving
I thought maybe you have to live until the ||third phase||
oh, if I don't have to win then easy peasy lemon squeasy. lol
i'm sorry i forgot how to read for a sec kindyll ;-;
Yeah, it would be ridiculous to expect you to win on your first time
not written down in the requirements
could still be the case since the wiki isnt perfect buttttttt from remembering my first time fighting it? i dont think it's needed
tbh tho i'd rather fight ||EM4|| than ||EM2 with HS|| ๐
Is it decent if i beat the game in 55 minutes my first time?
first run or first completion?
๐ I'd say the attempts count matters more in this case because you're new
(which means you did pretty well, based on other posts I've seen here)
Nice
Yeah, that looks fairly good to me
Btw the game is great and i understand now why it has 93 on metacritic
saved
I'm getting to a point in the game where characters don't have new dialogue 
Are you post-epilogue?
no?
Ah, well there's definitely a lot more dialog ahead of you then, just a matter of making progress
oh ok
Took a while but I've done it
https://imgur.com/ZeNGhIV
it will be in the next update of Pony's Qol
pony do u rest
I don't know what you're talking about


you can't just ask a modder if they rest
do it for bouldy
looks like this when you achieve the requirement
https://imgur.com/fwWsHv5
Also, it doesn't matter which victory message is displayed, any message you qualify for will be marked as completed in the codex
wut
Is the "commendations" page a mod?
I scrolled up and it seems it is
pretty cool
it is
Someone requested it, I noticed it and made it
don't some of these titles have ridiculous requirements?
how bad does it gets?
cracks knuckles
my casts are ready
more like cracks bloodstone
cracks hands that will handle 3 bloodstones until 1000 times
(which is inside your knuckne I guess but whatev)
Preparing to call the gods and have them do all the work.
burgers
b o r g a r
i thought they were gyros
Borg
i dont want to eat asterius ;-;
'Olympus Caller'
Cries in Dionysus and Zeus
Do you think asterius has 4 stomachs like real cows?
'Olympus Caller'
i wont forget about you this time, Artemis
that's a very specific one
ohh i have that once i think
those are the most ridiculous ones imo
used to be obsessed with troves
I'm stealing that burger one for a friend I know just sayin
Then there's the 12 minutes run which I'll never get because I wanna take my time and enjoy the scenery
or just look around every room for golden pots
will i try again? no
you mean 5 rooms satyr ๐ท ?
yes
anyway once I get it tested I'll publish this update
cerberus sure loves ๐ท
probably wagyu level of good ifyou ask him
imagine if it was always a 3 sack but you can come back for more and feed him more making him happy
for the cast you can just sit in a room and spam it
oh that sounds like my idea of fun
bet it'll feel good with hermes artemis and chaos cast bonuses
hope u dont get a skull room ๐ฉ
I don't know why they set it to such a huge threshold
imagine doing that and getting a sub 12 run anyways 
maybe they didn't anticipated that the cast would be so much less useful than attack and special
if you do it in a story room it's possible
or maybe it's for the true cast lovers
that makes me wonder, how often do you genuinely attack or special in one run
it's me, the cast apologist
depends of weapon
you'll attack much more with fists than arrow
i looked at how many enemies ive killed and i was 
would it also be insanely different per aspect of just with some?
can you beat hades in half a [dash button] press?
cause i feel like you definitively special more with any other shield than hidden
dont give speedrunners the idea
idk with a poseidon sword u might not be attacking very much for example
oh true i always forget poseidon aspect exists 
same
@burnt breach you didn't post the one for ending a run with literally zero coins
smh
again, it's me, the cast apologist
it's ok but you just really....... dont use it
I ignored it for a long time until I realized it increases cast dmg too
(still didn't tried it)
I use it when I feel like playing a cast build
it was in one of the screenies tho or what do you mean
sounds much less fun than hera or ||beo||
And I havenโt leveled up my nemesis at all
ZERO coins
yes legit zero coins
ZErรณ
but
how
i dunno
couldnt be me i hoard coins
ah yes, true
just spend it all in one place, mate!
the opposite is the 2000+ coins one
that one's not as hard though
this is me
poor as a pauper

tf is a pauper
a poor guy
isn't it the baby of a daug?
paupsechamp
I'm sleeping too
I just realized, cause of your chat, that I ruined a perfect 0 coins screenshot by using Bouldy and picking up the coins...
well you can try it again with my mod and if you achieve it, it will be recorded in the codex
Whoa, which mod is that? ๐
Pony's Quality of Lifeโข๏ธ
Lovely
that specific feature I haven't published yet tho, need to find a tester
too many times I've published something only for it to not work for some users
What feature would that be? Pick a run and go to a specific spot? ๐
Or clear/add resources
the codex in normal game feels so empty now seeing this ;-;
dont tell me you also added hammer boons info
he did indeed
goddamnit
I don't quite get how this codex thing is gonna help me get the coin title, but your mod is brilliant regardless
well the codex just shows all subtitles
so you actually know what you can aspire to get
if you finish a run and qualified for it (doesn't need for it to be displayed) it will be marked as completed in the codex
:o
Oh that's nice
I assume I did not qualify for it though since I picked up 30 pieces of gold before the end
Cause of bouldy
i'm happy there aint no prophecy for getting all these titles is required
It was just an unlucky moment of dummy me
for that specific one you need to clear the run with 0 coins in hand
Aye
I had 1200, got the blood, then went and used bouldy on daddy
Sooner or later I'll get that title...
You visited all story rooms tho, that's not bad
I had that one like 10+ times haha
Big old save file
If I start trying to collect all titles I'll be in for a long long ride I guess
Just sad to have missed that one
It could be a thing indeed
Gotta tidy up those hearts first, then upgrade my health-bar style....if by that point I don't get all titles I doubt I'll ever try xaxa
We do need a prophecy for them though, otherwise no way for me to track it
Too many runs!
@distant night @alpine yacht update is live on nexus if you're interested
OK, quick question, I have a pick between Ice Win and Scintilating Feast right now, which would be better assuming I don't run into the other by the end of the run?
hey that's not a bad idea
So, |||demeter||| crystal cast is fun, and it just obliterates enemies that don't move. Add in Exagraf with Zeus bullets, and I'm having a fun time just witteling away the hydra
Is adamant rail like actually bad or do i just suck or both
because i feel like my build was pretty decent but it did not do much
bad build, the weapons are all fairly well balanced
What did you have?
spear is garbage tho
zag spear is garbage*
Zag spear dot build is decent
I'm pretty sure my bond with Dusa got removed
every time I speak with her its it doesn't progress anything
I have already given her ambrosia
aight
level up the lounge
They wouldn't of been able to give the ambrosia if they didn't
oh ic
Yep. So they genuinely just have to give it some time.
Maybe beat up some shades to take your mind off of it
I have a question. Why is Zagreus British??
Hmmm, I feel like that reveals itself later on in the game. At least in terms of continuity
It does?
Have you beat the final boss yet?
Okay. Didn't ||Persephone|| sound a bit British to you?
Yo that's what I meant tho. Aren't they Greek?
I'm confused by Zagreus having a British accent ||even thoigh he wasn't raised be Persephone. Accents aren't hereditary lol||
I'm not sure I have an answer for you
It's okay, It was somethibg that plagued my mind for a lil bit rent free
No worries. Maybe someone might have a better answer.
Yeah!
Ooo i got it! Thank you!
Good news! I've been to the final boss twice! Bad news, lost both times.
you'll get em eventually, keep at it!
Yep! Just takes practice :)
Yep. I know my build is good enough. And I can generally get to the third stage without burning a Death Defiance. The problem is after that
Styx and the Final Boss are the true test to see if you actually have a decent build/know how to work with it
styx is also a great place to get big upgrades
Yeah. I just caught a bad break ||and ate a facefull of laser and green vase at the same time||
And money ๐ค
Yep, that'll do ya in for sure
wanna know a strat for the lasers
sure!
||hug your dad||
literally
not with the 3 laser attack tho, just with the omnidirectional one
||wait, what?||
Yep! The ||hitbox for the lasers|| is starts further away than you might think
hi everyone, BLOODTHANY DARKNESSTANO here, the internet's buseiness Hades nerd
What'd I miss?
skip to the 1 minute mark || https://streamable.com/0ujenv ||
huh. That does indeed work. Thanks for the tip!
Time to get back to my run after the song ends
npnp
Although I may be the only one, I do hope they fix that at some point.
I like it bc it's high risk high reward
ur either doing a ton of damage or eating like 100 damage from lasers
Is it easy to mess up?
Oof, that can be deadly
Right. Back at ||Hades||One ||Skelly's Tooth|| remaining, and I lucked into ||Stubborn Roots||
Time to give it a go again
Did it!
Beat ||Hades||
Rock on! :D
||Stubborn Roots||Pretty much saved me
They did, actually. For ||EM4||, that strat no longer works.
Right. Time to go to bed for me. I'm thinking of doing a Shield run next. Anyone got any tips for Shield?
Also, can Shield block ||Hades' Laser?||
Yes
Generally speaking, shield can block anything directly in front of it
It can be a little iffy on angles and AoEs
Oh, that's actually a nice change
Speaking of shields, Zag can't be wall slammed, right? I haven't experimented well enough to be sure.
I don't believe so, no. At least, I've never seen it happen
That would make Slicing shot with all the bells and whistles then hiding in a corner with your shield a valid build for all heat levels.
Turtling can work sometimes but it depends on the chamber and the enemies, and definitely wouldn't encompass all heat levels
Would be viable at least until I finish the story line.
Hey, if it works for you then that's great!
But if you don't take it, you can go far, sure.
5 minutes should be enough, but the problem is actually getting the boons
I haven't tried underworld customs yet. It looks like a very big pain to deal with
Oh. Wow. Fighting ||Hades ||with Aphrodite's Unhealthy Fixation was an experience.
@unborn anchor the final boss is considered a spoiler in this channel, can you please spoiler tag?
thank you ๐
what's the world record for heat
58 rn
ok ty!! tailesque has it i think?
yup
58 happened some hours ago
its insane because like i dont think anyone would expect ||RAMA|| of all aspects to have the world record
yeye im watching their run right now!!
The madness intensifies
yeah!!! its honestly insanity
i dont think the programmers even think this is possible
max heat... uhmm e4 and no dd at all and the rest of the pact
Some like the heat
Whereas
Some prefer an inferno
idk if we are going to ever see it
Eventually people will mod in more insane ways to make it difficult at this rate
Oh no

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