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Usually it's not all that helpful, but if you get +20 or 30% attack speed on bow 4, it's so nice
I believe it doesn’t affect dash-strikes though, which makes it less useful
I'm not 100% sure
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he even goes into the detail of the UI animation, utterly awesome
Yeah, tbf I think the Boon UI specifically is a low point. The layout is a bit confusing, especially with the selection icons which is there but doesn't do much. If you have too many boons it kinda breaks and overlaps with other stuff. One of the few faults I have with it. Though I suppose it is miles better than the original early early EA version
I have trouble with the hidden bow special. It feels weak. That's probably because I haven't upgraded it yet
it's hard to find which boons you already have
Codex!
wish when you go to the codex, the boons you aready have would light up
You need to learn the Dash Strike timing with it.
The upgrades help, but the Attack is already just really strong.
I think it actually does that?
Usui, have you unlocked the prophecy of the Fates yet?
With dash strikes and powershots, it is one of the best weapons for the BIG DAMAGE kind of thing
especially with Artemis boons
I know it lights up if you have the pre-requisits, but does it light up if you have the attack already
the missions that you complete with the desk in your room? @waxen juniper
Oh, that's what you mean. If you have an attack, it won't offer it to you. Only other gods might.
I know, but if I'm trying to see which boons I already have, it's not clear
Yea, that's the one. The codex has a scroll next to boons you haven't collected.
Ah, press select or B if you are using a keyboard
no... not collected ever, I mean on your run
Wait, don't you see something like an actual boon menu?
Yeah like on the run
it's Select or B by default
I'm not taling about the little diamonds
Select for controller or B on keyboard will show the boon menu
Well... you kind of are. That is your attacks and boons
they are too small and I haven't memorized which ones are for which gods
i want it in the codex
like when I'm rerolling, I want to see which ones I already have vs what could be in a reroll
You can highlight them in the boon list
yeah, I mean I literally just pointed out the UI can be better
what do you mean? @rustic valve
I do that very often when I look at a choice
Well... I press "-" on the Switch, and I can see all the ones I currently have
also the end of a run summary is a little awkward to navigate. wish the click on screen was enabled for the switch
I don't like the "-" menu
I'm talking about in codex when you go to Ares boons, I would like to easily see with a border around which boons I've already collected
I think that's something you will learn with time. But I see your point.
Ah, okay. Hm. Yeah, the codex fulfills a different role, unfortunately.
Though this is a "roguelite" thing I would argue.
Took me more than 200 hours to learn items in Isaac, a decent amount for guns in Gungeon, etc.
The sheer amount of stuff can be overwhelming.
And you have Selection Paralysis.
Spoiler ||demeter|| please.
That works. Thanks
that said, she doesn't seem like much of a spoiler
ngl, I tend to forget it's considered a spoiler too.
is she after the first clear?
Yes
Me too man 200+ hours in Isaac and I'm still getting confused
i don't remember what her reveal was like
|| fighting Hades|| and anything after the clear is a spoiler. Heat is whatever though
presumably because hell mode unlocks heat right away anyway
You ||caught her attention when you wandered in her winter creation||.
True even if you say heat someone who dosent know what it is will not u derstand
Exactly
Just got my 15 heat clear. It's getting harsh. I don't think I can get the highest level of "tight deadline" with the secret aspect of sword 
Nice job though!!
Nice!!
Does Daedalus not give any boons for the aspect of zeus shield
Or am I just spectacularly unlucky
Things that affect my special, to be more specific
the only special upgrade from daed compatible with zeus is Explosive Return
sure thing :)
Just saw the bit from nintendo switch - had no idea the game was originally going to be about theseus and the minotaur! That's extremely cool
Hi! Any word on Switch patches? Seems like they’re super behind.
BTW this game is amazing
Agreed
some people were saying there would be no more hades updates coming this year, i would imagine it to also be about the needed switch patch updates since its version is lagging behind...
but thats only regarding bugs and ballancements nothign else really is different from the most recent version and v1.0
No news now! Still way to early for us to know. We're still making sure the Switch and PC versions are running fully up to snuff and getting Cross-Play ready!! 😄
This is a rely from Caitlin regarding their next moves. Cross-Play is till being worked on.
well the nintendo version is still v1.0 too, i wonder how difficult implementing nintendo cross-play into the game is
are any other sgg games available on switch?
all of the other games are lol
huh the nintendo website says only 2 are :o
whelp nvm am looking at an old article
And that is sad.
great hades discussion starter buckeroo, i think we all love the amount of lgbtq+ representation within the game :)
shy?
so especially comfortable or less?
okidokes, if you think of staying you can even give yourself your most favorable pronouns as roles in #bot-commands via ?rank She/Her or ?rank
They/Them so everybody knows how to correctly talk to you :D
yeah c:
why, you have the they/them role 🤔
i hate losing to final boss when theyre at like 25% health
is this a bot?
you?
nvm
?
wut
I think this might be a troll
did i do something
whyd you call them a hoe
might?
you can chose she/her it's not a problem whatever you feel most comfortable with?
you can even get all 3 roles, the bot doesnt care
their first messages seem really trolly
'This might be a troll' that's what I thought too
...chat
subtract myself out of this conversation
same
...?
dont feed the trolls
ik, ik
subtract yourselves and think of dio's thighs
oof
Achilles is my dad

what is this?
trolling on an uncomfortable level
nobody is reacting to it correctly
so they desperate and tyoing weirdly but thats ok
@deep pivot can you please rid us of the troll?
can I get a hoiyah
hoiyah
At this point it's just tedious to see so many blocked messages
What's happening here?
this is actually kinda funny
idk nobody is comfortable
hoes mad?
They came in earlier, posted some "controversial" "hot takes" and have since been ever more desperately trying to get a rise out of people
thats a meme, but not just calling somebody a hoe for trying to be considerate lmao
what kinda controversial

They previously came in getting a bit aggressive about disliking Hades
Please, be calm, everyone.
oh proxy isnt having none of this
lmao go proxy go
Remember rule #1.
yeah, weird
This is very strange
black ares is iconic
Nyx?
I like how dusa is green
athena is the only character design i dont like
huuuh
something about it just seems weird to me
i think her arm on the shield kinda looks strange but the design is great
it's great for fanart definitively
i never really paid attention the races of the gods they all look kinda gray
kind of a perspective thing I guess?
and she seems stuck up and stoic, as i would think her to be
their "dead inside" is showing
They are being taken cared of. Sorry for the trouble everyone 
?
the idea of race is a pretty modern thing tbh
most likely the greeks didnt even think of the gods as having a specific skin color
well they were all marble color
except for apollo, he is well renowned for his golden bronzed skin
mhm
i think the statues were originally painted
oh fr?
at least the roman ones were
thats only because we found them after the paint decayed
and then assumed that marble shouldnt be painted
still the stone is too smooth for the paint to be sticked on well enough tbf
which is why it took so long to realize they used to be painted
yeah, same is true of Egyptian stuff
Assassin's Creed... Origins? I think; the Egypt one, anyway, shows that off very nicely.
And spent a lot of effort to do so
lmao
Im listening to a podcast and one of the dudes was like
"im entering these game awards like a k pop stan for hades"
Update I find the control with keyboard and Mouse a bit like hyper light drifter gameplay but with fast movement.
:)
I like hers
I played a League game and this channel devolve to some homophobic stuff smh my head
Diony has my favourite design
Hermes is probably the most boring for me
Poor Hermes
i really like artemis
dio has the THIGHS
Tisiphone is the most annoying fury to fight oh my god
Thicc
tisiphone is easy to dodge once you fought her like thrice
alecto tho? will always suck butt
I find Alecto the easiest
thiccest
hermes is supposed to be boring
They succeeded
hermes is like the god of normal people
alecto sucks imo cause her sawblades can get stuck on the obstacles and hit you way too many times than necessary; and because she is a harder meg with rage with sawblades that are un-deflectable
like sheperds and such
he the prankster coz
alecto is the worst fury
^
her character arch sucks the most out of all the npcs in the game, understandable tho
shes a flat character
I love watching Tisiphone ||learn new words||
do you mean word?
it's the thuoght that counts
Not exactly :)
i'm sad ||happy|| didnt do it to her as much
Alecto does have some depth to her rage, but that takes a while to develop
which you really dont want to happen cause fighting her sucks
||so how do i get to the epilogue ive maxed out all the gods nectar levels||
||should i look for what their favors are on the wiki||
As in the most difficult?
you dont need all their favors, did ||mother|| say something?
yes and most annoying
no do i need to max their nectar level too?
@gaunt valley please go to #h1-story-discussion for that question
you didnt get the first prophecy?
Lmao chat full of black bars
yes
||....................................................................................................................................................||
That is a question that will result in heavy, heavy spoilers. It's best to move it to the other channel
yea thats fair
i mean it really doesnt matter with those kinds of questions but aight
meet ya there chai!
damn i really got baited by ||..............................................................||
Shhhh, that's super secret!
I feel you, the fact that ||Jack dies in Titanic|| absolutely blindsided me
brother why
how do i use the spear?
Don't miss
Stab m with the pointy end
The spear is my second favourite weapon after the shield
spear is a very weird thing to give advice for
I treat spear like melee weapon
spam dash-strike, only with greater reach, because I usually get the hammer that extends reach
But spear is one of my worse melee weapons
you can either focus on attack combos or the dash-attack or the spin attack (since you can move it with dashes), specials arent really that important (other than to trigger damage boost with achilles) and spear feels just beutiful with safe builds
its my worst weapon and i kinda wanna know how its supposed to be used
My worst weapon is bow
I've found knockback has been very nice on spear
whats the spears best aspect?
It's very satisfying hitting power shots in a row
achilles by far, but if you like spinning it's hades
Does Chiron has some weird bug on Switch?
It looks like most of the arrows just goes trough the enemy and doesnt do damage
Just died to the time running out but that didnt happen before
I've heard no complaints about that before. Maybe you just had a mediocre run. Happens all the time
Shouldn't be the case
Everything was the same as other runs
Same special, same dash, same hammers, everything
Thats what im trying to say
No, I mean you should not be having the same exact combination as other runs. Unless it is seeded
Wdym, I still get same artemis special and aphro atk and so on
What heat modifiers do you have on?
if you didnt force the gods rerolling for the same build it would be very very rare to have the SAME exact build like before
especially with hammers since they depend on seed so... getting all the same of that?
I mostly get the same stuff
Just different rarity
He said you're TRASH
👀
Troll or not, please don't ever accuse me of that again
dont mind the jokers
The time modifiers, hard labor at 60% and lastinf consequences-25%
Heat 10
TD makes you die of running out of time, chiron can be pretty weird, especially on v.1.0 of the switch version
idk i didnt personally use chiron a bunch back then but the special was kinda weird/buggy
Lmao
hence why i am still scared of using it D:
*weird
the ptsd of v1.0
The arrows sometimes just dont hit
yes!
Oh yeah, that just depends on your angle
i had the same issue with zeus casts with the current version on steam tho too
They like warp around the opponent
i love chiron
It seeks, but its not a perfect heat seeker
so yeah maybe a major bug from v1.0 that has a comeback thx to stuttering now
But encountered this bug twice now
Did you F10 it?
well tbf thats its aspect. if it doesnt do the aspect right wtf is it supposed to do?
Whats F10
on steam only
Ah dont worry then
with f10 on pc you can submit bugs
Ahh
there must be a way to report bugs on switch
Or wait for an update I guess
yeah, maybe ask about it in #h1-tech-support if that will be fixed when the switch version updates
What even is the bug thats being talked about?
chiron not doing its job
in what way?
the special arrows dont hit/ just go through enemies without doing damage even tho you have them marked
Ah right, ive never had that problem
i had it once and was scared of chiron
but that was when the game just came out on steam
and since switch still has v1.0 it might have been fixed with the patches on pc hades, but it'd be better to ask
on bow? idk i sucked with it and was scared :c
the safe build of now was always working (safe build being athena on dash or attack, artemis on special and anything else, dio with his fountain and other health boons, aphrodite maybe for special and also health etc etc)
poseidon and zeus for speedclearing was always good
maybe look up old hades speedrus from september? vorime and bablo have great ones
I will, thanks
always happy to help an artemis brother out <3
Hehe, Artemis best girl
Zeus+Artemis is good
One that i enjoy that i dont think is common is Ares+Demeter
with, hopefully, ||Demeter+Artemis||cast
ares +demeter or dio + demeter is BEAUTIFUL
CHOP
sword loves ares
Havent used thag one at all
chop,chop,chop
spear loves athena
valid and understandable
whereas all the other weapons im up to like, heat 8-12
do you play with controller or kbm?
huh i wouldve understood more with controller, it really doesnt go well
which is your fave then?
Bow+Shield
ok yeah 100% understandable
most spear players hate bow and most bowplayers hate spear
If i had a tier list it would be:
S - Sword, Shield, Bow, Fists, Gun
F - Spear
idk for what reason but their playstyles seem to clash the most
damn spear
S - Spear, fists, sword
A - shield, gun
D- bow
( i know i spelled out sad because i am)
i died on 0 heat with fists so many times
try talos and mainly using special?
I like fists
nah i reached 32 heat today but man it was a pain
Melee combat really appeals to me
appealing indeed
i liked ranged cuz that way u can skip most of the boss mechanics
are you scared D:
yes :D i dont have the circle timing down at all
the bosses dont bite too hard
only won today cuz i could spam athena call before every single circle attack
only hydra really...
I'm terrible at ranged because you have to charge up the bow
insert ||EM4 Hades||
OOF
I'm better at gun but even so

||even tho, cerb does come running, but again: no bitey bites||
i remember having the biggest "laughs maniacally i'm in danger" moment when first trying ||em4|| and losing my DDs before ||stage 2|| was over
S- bow, shield
A- fist
B - rest
i hate spear
Sab? sad dab?
understandable have a nice day
if you learn how to play it spear can be a little good
stop massacering my boi

but by far i think is the weakest weapon
it is strong with the right upgrades
you just really have to put in veery muhc blood sweat and tears to actually get there tho
spear feels very awkward since its tryna be multiple things at once but isnt that good at any of them
but camping the spawn circles of my enemies with a full charged spin attack with achilles damage boost feels transcendental
and triple dashattack with athena makes you feel invincible
like for spear you wanna build aoe? rail does it better
wanna build dash attacks? nemesis does it better
wanna build special for boss dps? bow does it better
thats is the problem YOU NEED those upgrades
the other weapons can be good even withouth them or picking good ones
not really with the right strats understanding
just spamming dashattack wont help
I stand by that every weapon is good its just how good you are with the weapon
Unpopular Opinion: Spread Fire Exagryph is good
having the right combo of special throw dashattack spin attack dash down is the thing
I'm not good with spear but it is a good weapon
unpopular opinion: spear is great and i just hope it has enough silent lovers to not constantly feel hatred ;-;
S- fist rails bow A-sword B- spear
you missed one
i feel like spear was originally intended to be good at multiple stuff, but you have to specialize on one aspect of it to do well in higher heats, but if ur gonna specialize anyways, other weapons are better
kek i know
or is shield so bad it isnt on tier list
its very dependant on playstyle my shield experience flunctuates a lot so not listed
Fair
personally maybe yes please dont make it sound exclusive that spear sucks. there are more than enough people who really enjoy it
if you dont like it personally, ok, valid, fantastic; but dont say it's the WORST when there are more than enough people who think the exact opposite
i think its really good (sgg did a great job of balancing all weapons), but other aspects are just better at doing their things
personally it doesnt try to be multiple things, special is its own thing, the attack is very melee, the aspects are great, the spin attack is not anyhow like sword or shield
well i mean anyone can say anything about anything, its all a matter of opinion
but i see where youre coming from
opinions are great, just dont try to hate on something so bad just because you dont understand it well enough
just stating why i dont really like a weapon compared to others; not presenting stuff as absolute fact
it just really sounds like it
sorry if i misunderstood your longer... eh... tirage? about how bad it is?
spear suks fite me
that and personally having spent probably 200h only with spear makes everything you said sound like you never really learned to fight with spear, which is understandable, i also dont go for bow cause i personally dont get jiggy with it
I do think its funny listening to like streamers who only ever played zag aspects saying a weapon is trash garbage
how are you supposed to aim triple jab?
triple jab is a trap
sounds good but is meh
but if you fid yourself cornering/ getting cornered alot: its gud
For me lance has a really strange attack pattern but if I get flurry jab or whatever its called
fantastic
I think the only weapon I actively dislike is shield
but I like playing captain america cause its fun
whenever i get serrated point while on a artemis build i get insanely happy
the tripple dash attack
artemis on attack and Dash
especially with Deadly Reversal
BIG NUMBERS
OMG YESSSSS
but Deadly Reversal with athena on attack: also big numbers and big safety feeling
I'm not gonna lie getting art on hidden sword gives me seratonin I LOVE BIG NUMBERS
My favorite run I ever had was chiron bow where I got the hammers for special pierces armor and special does +3 for each hit, art on special, and arts crits do more to armor
it just melted
my favorite run was one of the athena-artemis combos i preach, i got ||dad|| down in less than two minutes
just went in, smacked him back home and left with tears in my eyes
yes
or not even a melt build but still knowing the weapon good enough to make any build a boss melt one
I love getting dionysus on chiron special and then just pomming it as high as it will go, then I shoot once and it drops a phase on a boss
very entertaining
ohhh now i wonder about ||demeter|| on bow specials with Killing freeze
it does work
wonder how good it can work
I've used it its not my favorite but if I get it I'm not complaining
kinda work
ya know
dio also only does 7 damage every 0.5 secs right? now i really wanna try killing freeze with the bow special ,_,
40 damage every 0.5 secs sounds too good to be true ;-;
nah, dio deals 5 on common
with dio you go for the ares duo which makes it .35 seconds
per stack
so 25 if maxed stack?
yes
aphro letting you stack up to 7 I believe?
but this is assuming you get common special
aphro stacks for 8
oh I was close
42 every 0.35 secs, sweet
i need to trust dio's main boons more
Me and dionysus like getting day drunk on a thursday you feel
but his health boons are so smexy
or put it on call and pretend its not there
i like to get drunk with dio but more on his stash than on hangover stats
sipping a fountain worth of dio wine all day any day brothers
If I'm going for the aphro duo (for chiron) I like getting aphro on attack dio special because by the time the chiron target goes away its roughly time to apply the weakness again
the animation of it is also the best!
lil purple arrows chasing down a dude
also "hot take" its time we remove great shielders and theseus shield
fight me
He shouldn't get two weapons I don't get two weapons
i want to use the dio animated emote under all of your messages
theseus without shield would be an absolute joke
I know lmao
removing his shield probably mean buffing his entire moveset so its a no for me
but I honestly do think that great shielders are the worst enemy in the game and honestly makes elysium my most hated area
theseus with shield is already a joke since he tries to hit once and then goes "ah yes ima show THE ONLY PART OF MY BODY THAT ISNT INVINCIBLE DUE TO SHIELD to them to really show dominance!"
Establish dominance by walking away slowly
and being vulerable
Nothing better than a man being vulnerable
amen
it shows he is emotionally healthy
umm, Flame Wheel?
lmao flame wheels are a joke?
flame wheel with the right builds are a joke
just dash behind something and they blow up
but with the wrong one they suck the life out of you
if they run into anything they just explode
sometimes
you make two run into eachother or dash behind a corner
sometimes their AI laughs at that
idk I've never had a problem with flame wheels
yeah i know, i haven't encountered problem with them too.
so ur saying that anyone who hasnt played 200+ hours on a weapon, calculated the exact dps for each one on a spreedsheet, and beaten 60+ heat on it should be banned from giving a 6 message long opinion?
what about with that pact which makes armored enemies do special something?
teleporting flame wheels for example
thats just funny
💀💀💀
or with Forced Overtime
||BP - Benefits Package||?
Dang people really be trying to start drama here
no i am just saying that knowing and loving the spear after a lot of hours even without calculating whatever dps stands for makes me sad about seeing a 6 message long tirade that really seems like you havent even invested an hour into the weapon and are just hating o it for the sake of hating on it
then again if i misunderstood, i am legit sorry
Drama on Not-So-Competitive single player game?
drama?
well, whatever float your boat
only between theseus and zag
i mean people already arguing about eris nerf
really? i thought it wasnt that bad?
it doesnt matter, but speedrunners thout the buff should be reduced
this one?
- Adamant Rail (Eris Aspect): reduced duration of bonus damage effect
from 8 seconds to what?
4
4
huh i never saw any big arguements about the nerf only about why the nerf probably got implemented
it punishes people that are new to the weapon but really doesnt affect the speedruns and high heats
the current nerf
yah sorry about that and going a bit overboard with my messages on the spear, just got a bit mad about perceived opinion gatekeeping
i am sorry too for misunderstanding you
all good again? :)
Yah :)
(btw what does dps actually stand for)
damage per second
how can you not know this
i am not good with english gamer lingo and general abreviations
english is my first language and I'm not even good at words half the time
every day theres some new abbreviation that I don't know man
third language and i have the worst time trying to be gamer
all these abbreviations, not even urban dictionary helps
Is Spear Aspect of Hades any good?
it is
what is your favorite of the spears
I got to 20 heat for my fists but now it says no more bounties remain for this weapon?
20 heat is the max bounty
Oh so I should just skip to 32 heat for the skelly thing
Aight
i feel like theres a huge jump between 32 and 20
Lols
cuz you gotta start adding some of the tougher pacts that actually affect damage and healing
especially since the "safe" options are basically gone to level after 20
ahh i miss only having to put one TD to get rewards
F i love my fists what should I level up now :(
what weapon do u like best next?
Might use bow or rail
whats ur playstyle?
id say half life alyx or hades were robbed
since they were both pretty innovative in vr and roguelikes respectively
single target dps - hestia, chiron
room clearing - eris, rama
for fun - lucifer, zag bow, hera (cast)
then best action / direction should have gone to GoT
since that award is focused on combat and puzzle gameplay
nice!
as for the game award, what is done is done.
I didn't expect the Best Action at all, but hey, we got it
i feel bad for animal crossing
it carried everybody so hard the whole early year in lockdown
I feel bad for many games lol. ACNH seems to be a good fun game especially during this pandemic.
yeah
everybody talked about it
did it win family game at least?
yeah
but I don't have a Switch and have never played AC before so...
same, i guess it being singled out to one console makes it alot less accessable
what else could it have won?
idk they couldve done a honorary "games that kept us sane in the pandemic"
not even full award, just a mention
its understandable that acnh isnt action, adventure or whatever more but it would have been very fitting to this year and a personal note everybody wouldve appreciated after the gobsmack of betrayal
and swimswims
i think game awards should have honored the goty nominees for their respective categories
doom eternal - action
animal crossing - family
GoT - action adventure
tlou2 - narrative
alyx - direction
hades - indie
ff7 - rpg
instead of doing a mainly full sweep towards tlou2
Biggest winner of the night is definitely swim swim
i thought for a sec GoT was meant as Game of Thrones
Taking one small stupid piece of damage with Pierced Butterfly is so frustrating
just don't get hit by those
fox you are fantastic
no you are
gosh the positivity at 3am
(idk the interaction just reminded me of the breathtaking moment)
same
ahh game shows always come back with the best memes for centuries to come
if swimswim doesnt get fox to giggle 5 years from now, then this award show failed even in that
I'll be back for next year game award
and ill remind people of the most powerful ad created
more like most powerful race created gamers rise up
wonder if juan will be a live stream game award thing too
doing a fishing run is harder than beating the game h
Fists with demeter aspect is nice. Mainly because giga cutter does stupid damage
lfg i got my first escape with the spear
oh thats an L
Ohhhhh! Thanks! Definitely didn't process that :p
Yea, that l is significant
Does upgrading demeter aspect make the special stronger?
no u only get more of them
Well, I upgraded it, and I am only getting the charge once. It went away as soon as I specialed
yeah
I think I understand why people like this aspect now :p
The charge is insanely powerful at max
Nice mix of speed and occasional burst damage
Thoughts on kinetic launcher with demeter aspect?
I have it available, and it seems interesting
Stuff that makes special stronger massively improves the power too
never had it
Good luck
the only semi-"bad" hammer for special is rush kick
yah it just feels weird
It leads to awkward positioning tho
i like the ares's doom on special for charge cutter the most
draining cutter isnt that good either
i like it fine
still dont know much of what people do and don't like im just now speaking to other hades players
Okay, kinetic launcher is amazing with this!
I also had an erebus gate that gave me an epic phalanxe shot that does 109 damage in the first encounter.
This feels like a run!
athena dash is pretty solid with fists since ur so close to enemies
yea esp with blinding flash
with a merciful end build you can melt anything within seconds but its not exclusive to fists ig
My favorite dash is dionysus but then again everything dionysus is my favorite
Dio's probably my least used character right now
his fountain boon is op at any rarity for me
honestly just take him for that one boon xd if i see him
Oh yeah, I'll always grab that if I'm not doing anything with his core boons
I couldn't help but notice that ||asterius is charging into Theseus||. But... I don't have charm active
Have they given any updates on when cross saves will be coming?
Or what changes were made on switch for the 1.36054 version?
Per the FAQ, there is currently no ETA. They are working to get it implemented as soon as possible
I'd seen that I just didn't know how current it is
It's still current 
Alright, gonna try again with chaos shield. We'll see how it goes :/
Wait... does explosive return stack for each shield you catch with chaos shield?
No, just the main
Interesting. I guess explosive return is just good
Idea: they should add zagereus pog as an emoji to this server
I'm guessing the TGA orchestra transition of Hades to Animal Crossing got shared here?? That transition is chefs kiss
First win with chaos shield!!
Nice!
There is not a single bad track in this game
Does the Hera upgrade matter with Stygian soul?
So... apparently I was selling boons because I though underworld customs was on. Keyword: thought 😆
dusa is adorable
Give Cerberus the comfiest pillows
Dusa is cute
True
Very true

Hes the cool uncle at the family gathering who lets you do all the stuff your parents dont let you do
Hes the one who hands a toddler the knife
Who would be the cool aunt though
Like Artemis might come the closest but she seems like like the cool older sister
Athena is probably next-best and then you have Aphrodite and Demeter who honestly don't really come off that way
Demeter is that one grandma who is sort of strict but also nice and she just flips back and forth and you never know whats gonna happen
Aphrodite is the aunt that never shows up to anything and says she was too busy
So yeah probably Athena
Does poseidon not have the best damage scaling anymore? I remember they used to be really insane
Rupture is still incredibly powerful at least
splash dash requires poms to do decent damage
I think that zeus is better for massive damage
aphro is also good for damage
It all depends on the attack in question
Aphrodite works best on ones that have high base damage, Zeus on ones with low base damage
i have equipped thunder signet trying to get ||aspect of lucifer so i just die after i meet zeus but... I HAVE GOTTEN HAMMER 2 TIMES INA ROW >.<||
Best poseidon cast boon?
As in the sword aspect?
I am pretty sure that conversation won't happen in the first room
At least, it didn't for me
@radiant estuary ye
Dusa is precious i love her
I'm probably not the right person to ask about it but I'd say Flood Shot
Mostly for the good tracking and high AoE
Plus rupture
aight
And if you get the right Demeter boons along side it, you can get the Blizzard Shot duo and have it hit like mad
Alternitavely, you can go with Ares cast if you get the right boons for it, though it really requires Hunting Blades to shine the most
Nice work Moro
Thx guys
What weapon did you use?
First the bow then i tried out the fists for the first time
Also used one of the heat conditions
That made the first boss to be the 3 sisters
I like most weapons
I like the gun
Chaos Shield finally started to be nice to me, so I like that one now. The only one I really struggle with is ||Rama bow||
Yeah hidden bow can be fun But I don't think its "good"
though if you get the rapid fire and twin shot
it is funny
I imagine it will be better when I upgrade it more
yeah I maxed it and it just wasn't for me but its certainly not bad
all the weapons feel unique man I could gush about this game forever
Even the Zag aspects are great!
I prefer Chiron over the other aspects for Bow
Seems like that is a common preference
its very easy lmao
yeah whenever I start a file I bee line for chiron
Hera is fun too
zag bow feels incredible now with the recent buff imo
Hera is fun. I had stygian soul festive fog with hera, and that was a blast!
That does crit chance increase right?
yeah, from 10 to 15% at max level
Dam
yeah festive fog seems to be the best for a lot of cast builds
Yea it does. So it's an attack heavy build
Phalanx shot with hidden shield is where it's at though!
I love how SGG made the tutorial part of the gameplay and by that I mean they slowly show you new mechanics
you learn about the shielding crystals on the barge of death
you learn about shields from the greatshields before you fight thesius and theres just so many
cool things like that throughout the game that you aren't surprised by any mechanic
I mean with the global situation just take public transit its basically a barge of death rn
True
I will say that Theseus would be incredibly difficult if he had the greatshield's attacks 😫
Yea, I definitely follow
Like I can't think of a single mechanic that pops up that wasn't explored at an earlier stage then made harder
I think artemis' cast is the only one I don't really take
Opinion: ||I find EM3 Boss 3 easier than Normal Boss 3||
oh hard agree
That's a common opinion
Its free heat
you aren't getting sniped from across the map every half second
However, it's a bit tricky to get used to that fight.
the only em thats difficult minus 4
I hate em2
is probably 2 but even then em2 is faster than regular
well don't stand in the spicy liquid
Guys what should i be focusing on rn after beating the game 2 times
One thing that I will always love about this game is that hypnos just roasts you every time you die
beating the game more
Interacting with characters and winning more
Theres still a ton of story to find
What currency is more worth to focus in runs
So... you beat 2 runs. You definitely did not beat the game 😉
depends what you need
depends what you need
Aight
like darkness if you haven't maxed mirror
Get as many keys to unlock each weapon and get all mirror traits
Yep. Later down the line keys and gemstones are just used for the tradebroker
gems if you want to finish the house contractor
Now begin your long journey towards reuniting and reconciling every emotionally constipated prat that haunts the halls of the Underworld.
keys if you want to unlock weapons/mirror
The way I went about it is Keys -> Darkness -> Darkness/Gems
ambrosia if you want more relationship
and so there isn't a "this is what you need" answer
Keys is probably the wisest decision. Gemstones are also relevant for some required objectives
True
I just recommend not buying gems off Charon
I mean I do it sometimes
Why not
I'm still able to hit 1200 by styx
In the beginning*
Ambrosia takes a long time to be relevant. So if you wanna trade it for titan blood, then by all means
realistically you want 1000-1200 by the 4th area so you can buy the diamond or the titans blood that charon offers
cause its basically just a free big resource
and he will always have either a diamond or titan blood in the shop
Ambrosia is the big nectar bottle?
Yes
yes
Yes
yeah when i said ambrosia I meant the tiny ones
3 Yeses! You are going to the live show!
which are actually nectar
also with certain mirror upgrades you see a lot less gem/key/dark rooms
which is nice
Ah yes. Nectar is definitely something worth grabbing
Thanks guys
oh also read your prophecies and try to knock some out if you haven't
its free resources and some of them you actually have to hunt for
Alright
Yeah there's definitely lots to do after beating Hades
||you start getting hiddens after first clear right?||
there are some pre-reqs to it
oh I know but isn't that one of them?
No. I do not believe so
yes
huh neat
Well, it might be. But the ||5 titan blood for the weapon|| is what the game really cares about.
|||i wish i could hear that surface music every time i go up there :(||
Truuuuue
||its all in a pinned message in #h1-story-discussion ||
||let me visit the garden and take care of the flowers you cowards||
wwould pay $20 for gardening dlc
oh yeah
And a dedicated fishing mode
gimme the poseidon fishing boon room 1
I just wanna fish all day
I refuse to believe there is only 1 fish per lake
Take us to the fish-realm
So question. Do boon status effecs like hangover/doom increase their damage when your weapon gets a damage increase?
I want to fish with Hades
So say you got a chaos boon that increases your special damage and you also have hangover on the special. Will that hangover damage increase due to the chaos boon?
no
I love that dad comments on a fish if you're lucky
Bummer :(
So if hangover does 7 damage. Does it do 5 stacks of 7 damage every 0.2 seconds?
So 45 damage every 0.2 seconds?
Oh. Not as good, but that is still quite powerful
I had ares+dio duo and dio legendary on one run today. that was a super cool run to do!
oh I'm sure
the next time an enemy attacks they get smacked
so you hit with an electric attack then they get jolted and the next time that enemy starts the attack animation they get smacked for it
Ohhh, that makes sense. And how does chill work? I know it slows enemies down, but what does stacking chill do?
as far as I know* stacking chill only matters if you get one of two boons "chill decay and does damage" or "10 stacks of chill makes them explode"
I don't think stacking chill makes them slower
Okay. How strong would you say the weak effect is? It's hard to tell how potent it is when you're just smacking enemies in the face
It's hard to tell just how significant weakening an enemy is for me
weak only lowers the damage the enemies do
however weak is really good because of the duo's paired with it
Like what?
I got all the aphrodite duos, but I the weak related ones don't cross my mind right now
aphro+dio is that weak enemies take more stacks of poison
aphro+ares is that weak enemies doom will keep hitting them for half damage every time
so if your doom is 100 it hits for 100 then 50 then 25
so on
Woah woah woah! What? Aphro+ares sounds insane!
Ohhh, I see what you are saying. That is still very good
oh aphro+artemis is weak enemies take more crit damage
or are more susceptible to crits
I forget which
Do you know what percentage "weak" lowers enemies attack?
not sure tbh
30% from memory
but there is an aphro boon that makes weak enemies take more damage as well
Yes. And her legendary is also just completely stupid
her legendary is funny
30% is a decent chunk. Especially on the big hitters
And how much extra damage does a critical hit do?
So it doubles the damage?
also if you hover boons it has a little popout that tells you this stuff
in case you didn't know
Yea, but it's almost 3 am and I don't plan on playing the game right now :p
uh I think its 200% on top of your normal damage
Oh, that's ridiculous
I THINK*
So pretty much all the gods have some very powerful abilities
yep
there is not a bad god to do a build for
though obviously some work better on certain weapons
dionysus sword special is going to be worse than chiron bow special
kinda thing
Dionysus special and Chiron seem like 2 peas in a pod.
Now that I understand what Dionysus' hangover effect actually does, I understand why he can be very good.
One last question, for the boon that stacks doom, does the stack have to be from a different type of attack?
Or if you had doom on chiron's special, it'd stack all the shots.
I'm guessing the latter, but I just want to verify
the latter
and it doesn't "Stack" the doom damage
should i ||steal from chrion again?||
So that's why the doom stacking boon and the (doom deals more damage but takes longer to activate) synergize well with each other. You have more time to stack the doom.
How to ||steal from chiron?||
||charon and he leaves a money bag for you||
Which one? Hangover on Zeus Aspect is spicy
Enjoy the spice!
Why would you?
be stubborn and waste it
Ooo, one final question. What does decay do?
in what context

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