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that kind gentle guy? wow ok now im really intrigued about greek mythos
He still 100% deserves the treatment he gets from Thanatos and Meg and Hades
Feels that way to me - though with Bouldy, Ocean's Bounty and a chaos boon, I could see it getting up there
The reason Sis and Achilles are chill dudes in Hades are because they've spent a lot of time in the underworld
Sisyphus kidnapped Thanatos so nobody could die, which angered Ares, because war is boring with no deaths
Gives you perspective
Like in one version of the mythos he tricks dad,in the other he tricks Thanatos,and in some he tricks both
TWICE
based on what i read here from u guys, sounds like achilles is kinda an emo guy lol
figher... but emo
Hmm
Yeah maybe he’s emo but he’s cool
Yeah, that's one of the common interpretations, indeed^^
It's been like 18 years since I read the Iliad so I don't remember but I don't think he's that emo
As has been pointed out: He sulks a good long while in the Iliad.
It starts with him in his tent, not doing stuff because he was pissed at something.
His "guy friend" dies and he goes into a murderous rage, that doesn't Scream emo to me
And Patty leading his Myrmidons instead.
It was really messed up when Iphigenia was told she was going to marry Achilles but in reality was a sacrifice to Artemis because her dad angered Artemis by hunting her sacred deer or something like that
Worst bachelor party ever
That's Agamemnon right?
Honestly most major problems in the Greek mythology start like something like this
characters minding their own business
“🎵And then along came Zeus!”🎶
patroculus?
artemis was involve in all of this too? man.... greek mythos lore is exciting. everyone is getting involve haha
Their ashes are buried together, at least
(there's a reason tvtropes has this: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AchillesInHisTent)
I like how Percy Jackson did it in the last book
The Iliad would make agood telenovela now that I think about it
||Silena disguises herself as Clarisse because Clarisse is angry about a dragon or chariot or something, gets herself killed and dies from poison, which disfigures her face, Clarisse gets angry and fights (but I think she survives)||
Apart from all the murders and that
Those fit too, surely?
I don't know the abuela taget demographic well enough
whats "ambiguity bonus" from bouldy?
It's ambiguos
thanks
Imagine Zeus on one of those paternity test daytime shows
You're welcome. Maybe
hahahaha
Zeus is always the father
you think buying trove tracker is worth it?
Ares, too
i feel it almost always would pay off
maybe not if you have really bad dps or if you find health and you dont need it
trove tracker?
the thing in the ccualrdoon that guarantees a trove
Apollo was unlucky in his love life, but he still had a ton of children
oh
Ares is the father of a pack of horses
i rarely pick troves so i can't tell
Guy could flip to a botany textbook and be like “yes, that’s my ex lover”
they traumatized me because i tried to get health in elysium
and ended up with -1 DD, +0 health
In the Marvel comics Ares miniseries, a character asks: "you have horses for kids?"
Ares: "It is different for gods"
I think a Norse god gave birth to a six legged horse
Yep, Loki
Also a Wolf and a snake
Fenrir and Jormungandr respectively
If you've played Final fantasy 7, Jormungandr the Midgard Serpent is the origin of the Midgarzolom
The horse is named Sleipner and it's so fast
a gemstone trove can randomly give you nectar?
Yes
cool
Rarely
Any trove has a very small chance to give you nectar as well
5% i just checked
I think the constraint could potentially be time, if you’re trying to finish quickly
If it’s difficult to clear troves, might be an unlucky run or a build change is in order
You can also bolt on a trove if they spawn something you know is gonna be a net cost to you
Like if there are shield guys and your build is vulnerable to that(or chariots) fine to bolt through a door rather than lose a DD or health
Also, I don’t know about you guys but I find the|| lack of stagger on the rail weapon frustrating||
i dont like rail at all...
i want to do a cast build eventually
what do you all think of cursed slash?
I like it
i think i feel like its a run winner
I have a story about that
Salutations and good tidings
||The first time I beat champions and saw the final boss was a run I found cursed slash, and I was so excited. But since it was my first time in Styx I took ||the|| anvil, the boss fight was RIP||
i have been obsessed over this game
Welcome! It is exceptional
and just joined because i made a biiiiig mistake
Tell us more
Use spoiler tags if it’s a spoiler please
You can highlight and select spoiler
i put it in #h1-story-discussion just to be safe
Ok

Weapon? And do you have Stygian soul or the other one?
what weapon?
the sword where you do 1special and have bonus dmg
and what relm
elysium
Also the pic is a bit of a spoiler
about the soul huhhhh
send the pic in spoiler chat
Do you have the 3 charges that stick or the one that charges up
He spoilered it
That’s fine right?
I ask that but I’m not sure if yours can only happen where the cast stones stick
Lightning Rod for sure! /s (it can be fun, but it's not very efficient)
Stay in place*
i guess mostly i should get lightning for the fate at least
3 that stick
Yes, rod
If it ends up being not as cool as you’d hope maybe you can sell it for 400g
But it’s fun
completing fates really helps me make choices lol
How could you tell?
yea go rod
i think im poor right now, 150
sell it ||so you can grab the item in styx||
rod is such a dumb boon tbh
the 1k one?
mhm
i feel like it can be decent with the right setup right?
like, a bunch more crystals
I think you also need to progress Zeus
does it even work with crystal
Otherwise underwhelming
also if they strike as soon as they come out, having the short cooldown on them and the auto pickup, sounds stronk
I would want double strike chance or bigger area, something
like if you have the sword that takes them out of the enemy
Ooo
pos sword is kinda a pos tho
artimis duo boons op
Chai are you talking about poisedon cause I support that statement too
yes
i mean it has to be pretty good with a good cast build right?
Yeah, but it’s so boring imo
like, not reliable at all, but, with the right boons can be fun i think
Artemis cast would shred
Cast shreds*
But nemesis also works well with Artemis
On attack rather than cast
artimis has my favorite call
but like her duo boons with ||demeter|| and ares are amazing
i guess zeus and demeter call is also good
i have the quick reload or whatever,
if i had the quicker cast
i could have a machinegun of casts
artemis has no bad duo
i wonder if supergiant will secure the steam goty
I frequently get that too chai, especially running privledged status
I think so, I bought this game for several friends and family
i hope so
nah, sekiro prolly has the steam goty in the bag
would be great if they got the actual goty too
Artemis + poisedon underwhelming imo
ive been playing supergiant games since the release of transistor
they really deserve a goty at some point
true
Transistor came before bastion? Good to know lol
Gotcha, thought so
i discovered supergiant like a year after transistor released
and have been following them ever since
Have you played bastion too?
ive played them all
Nice
finished all except pyre
i should buy the diamond in the last shop but.... i want to be stronger... even if i think im already able to beat the boss...
yes
Diamonds come rarely until you get better at the game. So... The decision is up to you
i'd take diamond
most of the time by the time you reached the final shop the build is already formed
i have won the last 5 runs, so im ok in diamonds, but i know as soon as i go up a bit in heat i will have 0 diamonds
Until your win rate is greater than your loss rate, I'd encourage taking it.
no you always need more diamonds
well, i have like 28 runs
and like 6 wins
but from run 23 to now i havent lost
the 1-2 heat i have dominated i would say
remember to up heat when you run out of bounties
do your build need anything from the shop
yes ofcourse
probably could do better with something yeah
but i still think i can beat the boss without them
you get quite a lot of gold from the tunnels tbh
Also, do you have enough money to buy that and then get something else? Styx gives a lot of gold
anyone have a blade dash addiction?
Is that the blade rift one?
maybe i will be able to buy 1 more thing
yep
blade dash ||gil|| is definitely on my funny builds to try out list
Ah. I've had 2 blade rift runs I think. Both were fantastic runs
i think the run is won because i have athenas dash, the i atack i recover 2 health and 3 revives
blade dash can make the game a bit hard to read tho
but yeah i take it most of the times
lol i got|| king vermin|| for the first time last run, and now i got it again, like twice in a row, what are the chances
Don't think you've won just yet. The ||Hades|| fight can change that in a moment's notice
I can't get the dire serpentstone for the life of me. That's the only other one I need for the prophecy to be fulfilled -_-
dont know whats that
The serpentstone miniboss
oh, havent found it yet
at least i think i havent
i probably would know if i have found it right?
like it has a boss fight bar on top right?
No, it's a typical mini boss in styx
oh its not like|| king vermin||
They are usually bigger+stronger versions of enemies in styx with a lot of armor
LOL
Yeah, that is the only true miniboss in styx
remember how i found lightning rod
and took
it
and sold it
i just found it again
Time for try 2
hmmm i think ill take an epic exit wounds, since i need it for the fates
Even if its useless for the run, you have gained progress on a prophecy.
And trust me, you want to finish those prophecy's. They give very good rewards
FOUND LIGHTNING ROD A 3RD TIME
Well, duos usually spawn a lot once the conditions are met. That's not a surprise actually
but like, i probably have the conditions for another duo...
Probably and do are two different things 😉
is there any achievement for winstreaking?
Don't believe so
No but Hermes will be very impressed
||mom told me not to go to her anymore :(||
Yeah listen to Nyx
She'll tell you what to do if she doesn't aggressively dodge you like she did me after I met spoilers
so i just stop playing the game now? Kappa
Nah man gotta get to credits
beat the boss but close the game before you go to the next area
but i dont wanna go against ||mothers ||word
yeah that sounds smart
Alternatively just die against redacted over and over
nyx said it was a good idea to go back... nyx is also ||mother||
||i have a mother words paradox||
||You now live in the "do what your mother says" loop||
do you use keys for anything else other than mirror and unlocking weapons? or do i just trade them off?
Only for some cosmetic things
||ok im gonna try go for the first skelly statue||
That one isn't too bad
It depends on conditions and how good are you at spear 4
hmmmmm only used it once and won but idk...
Spear 4 is a risky weapon, but Achilles is eh
should i rank up with ambrosia the fidi companion? is it a good one?
its the first one i got
okey, i have 14 right now but i guess probably it runs out fast
Raging rush works on cast?
cast builds really?
havent unlocked it yet
yep, atacks and casts
any god in particular? i could use their keepsake
beat final boss on hell mode for the first time it was emotionally exhausting lmao
grats
dio casts in particular, big boom
Hell mode is much more challenging than I thought it would be
whats hell mode?
setting when you select new game it starts everything at 5 heat
and you can't turn down the heat or select god mode
it even disables god mode and have its own special heat condition
ok im gonna try an achiles cast run
Good luck!
do i switch out of dio keepsake after the first boss?
oops
too late
guess i should try to find hermes boons that regen it faster right?
oh that wouldnt work with dionisius would it?
no i mean the dio cast is the bomb, so its very slow to re pickup
since its stays as the fog
oops
maybe zeus to get his duo?
what other dionisius duos are good and give me dmg?
eh dem cast feels so slow to me, rather go aoe, its like a better rail special
i found a random zeus so probably will find zeus easier
i was talking about the duo lol
dem's duo makes festive fog feels a lot better to cast
it does
i mean, i have the 3 rubies
+30%
not the regen rubies
but if you have zeus banked its better to go zeus, yeah
not sure if vicious skewer is a global crit boost or not
hmmm doesnt sound like it
only recovering the spear
you think static discharge could be good for teh build?
not sure, not a big archilles user myself
i got 148/150 gold from the infernal trove lol
why is achilles good for cast build? I'm using it and it seems like any weapon would work just as well?
using the special gives you bonus dmg on your next 4 atacks or casts
so at lvl 1 achiles its 50% extra damage on your cast
damn
i mean u can go atk build i guess, but u need to refresh the buff a lot
hidden one can be pretty good i would say
Hades spear is good, I main it when I don't feel like fisting
hidden one is special build
Hidden spear is good with certain hammers
I main chiron bow and have a lot of fun with that
Otherwise useless trash
The bow is like S tier
Best weapon for sure
on no
Fists tho
I’d say fists can be pretty top tier as well
maybe gun if you know how to play it smart
rails and fist is s tier
I don't think bow is the best weapon in the game
bow is like a probably
but its the one I enjoy the most
every weapon is top tier in it's own way ^_^
Rail and Bow, Fist just below, imo.
Unless you’re playing spear
Just give up in that case
I honestly think hidden sword is the Best in the game
It’s not worth the sluggish builds
tier list works differently for different use tbh
unless you’re going for Achilles cast builds
hidden sowrd is nice with them crits sure
high heat/speedrun/general run has different metas
I don't know what spear has done to you but spear isn't that bad
All weapons can be viable, but Rail, Bow and Fist are clearly faster and viable in more ways, afaict.
Gotta hate the hidden sword ngl
I really liked it at first
But god it’s so slow
It feels like playing the game in slow motion
just dash attack, it continues the combos
see I don't think you can objectively tier list the weapons here only because if you are good with a weapon its better than one you are bad with
yeah dash attack is the answer
Jusr don't use the combo finisher and you're fine
There are people who think the bow is the only bad weapon in the game
but the third combo is where thedmg is
and while I disagree they are welcome to that opinion lmao
there are ppl who cant even use rails lol
exactly lol
No the damage is in the double stab dash attack
no they’re not

not rly
the hidden sword critting the third combo is just bonkers
more with hoarding slash i guess
1k crits are good, yes
more
i always thought hoarding on hidden sword is bad
I can't use eris rail to save my life for example, yet I know it's an incredible aspect
since its a flat increase on a slow weapon
If you hoard enough or play Artemis it's good
i fd up
i got the "cast faster" boon
and now i cant cast just 1 dio cast
i cast twice minimum per click lol
oof
I have dio cast with dem duo and I'm having fun I'm working on getting zeus duo cause I think it will be funny
Autocast on Dio isn't good unless you use Ice Wine
u can get both at the same time
oh yeah i forgot i can technically get both...
I have to get super lucky in the tunnels though
I need a minimum of 2 zeus boons
I doubt I get it but it would be fun
get call and jolted for zeus
ok so I have the poison enemies take more damage in fog
and just deleted elysium boss in like a minute
thats scary
i dislike hangover builds personallly
i think they are good with bow
ok so I have a 150 and a 450 zeus in shop got the call on the 150
and a zeus tunnel
if I'm lucky I get this duo
just spam the call in rooms
I'm doing the tunnel one first since its a non-boss
then I'm going to buy the 450
didn't get it
it was worth a shot lol
oh wait theres a 150 dionysus boon in shop I have one more chance
well I didn't but it was worth the shot
a good rail aspect of eris build? i dont like rail
zeus attack, i put crit on the special but u can go aphro
any hammers in particular?
cluster and rocket
triple bomb is also good if you don't get those two
piercing can also be helpful in dealing with shields, iirc - and just generally for triggering zeus attack even more
(but both of those aren't as good as cluster+rocket)
Just want to double check, when will we get all the updates for Switch version?
No ETA specified. Presumably once they got cross-saves done.
how far do you need to be for distant memory to work
if i can chose between those 2?
So, I was wonder about those artifacts. I assume they are specific to my hardware (Spoiler alert): ||https://ibb.co/QvFBZxp||
cluster imo
Mmmm artemis yes yesn sexy
Too far to be worth it, ime; but since it doesn't show, I've had a hard time pinpointing it exactly.
Its literally the tip of spear 4 special
are you able to encounter thanatos when your chamber reward is a boon?
just wanna make sure
I'm like 90% sure that yes, I've had that happen.
but I've never paid attention to it so now I'm not sure 😅
same, from what i can remember i always encountered him when i chose a pom, centaur's heart, and obol
hngggg
sorry 😆
artemis
heartrend
for hammers you want either the extra special arrow or the extra damage on consecutive special hit
try to avoid explosive and double shot
i also don't like triple or chain shot
rapid shot works great
and i look for an aphrodite atack probably?
yep
i think im gonna try to go for the first skelly statue
Welp.... If CP77 wins GOTY over Hades im gonna be even more sad now
this is part of the art style of the game 
That game is a hot mess
probably should take the extreame measures, tight deadline and hmmm
chiron?
yeah
what's your average run speed
em3 td1 is 7 heat already tho
oh lol
my average run speed humm
Half an hour usually
about 28 i think?
is that with pausing when picking room?
Ohhhh. I was wondering about that. Because I see it often (even on the loading screen when you start the game). Very cool 🙂
yeah i think
ah okay keep it TD1 then
nah, its FO
but i think i might do more than i need to do

like take every single infernal trove for example
i think i know what em2 does
but not sure about em3
i think i should take the risk
EM3 is not that big of a difference in difficulty from normal boss3
td2 dc2 em2 i guess
but i had a bit of difficulty vs them at first
i have won my last 8 runs in heat 2
so i should step it up probably
hmmm wondering if i should take a common artemis special tho
i dont like it being common...
EM3 is annoying.
For melee build at least.
||Waiting out Asterius' spinning attack and the aoe when he lands.||
lol i tryharded. had i think 2:50 left for final boss, was pretty good built
and
||he just let me through xd roll credits||
lol
so anticlimatic
Finally gonna play cyberpunk in like two minutes,wish me luck boys
good luck
so wait, the skelly statue doesnt give you anything?
also is charged shot good?
firstly for ||contracts|| for some of the side-plots, decorations(some are interact-able 👀), cosmetics, ||resource manager||, the songs
||if you hit it, skelly will sometimes react to it lol but else nah||
depends on your build, i find it very good for the endboss fight since (if found the right place) it makes you continuously do damage to endboss and spawned in enemies while basically being invisible
any aspect of chaos shield build?
i think #h1-builds-and-combat has some if you dig
sense of pride and accomplishment
||daddy letting me pass kinda took that away from me||
time for 16
Okay so here’s my cyberpunk experience
Launched the game once,decided to change the graphics settings cause the default fps cap is 60,game crashed,can’t even launch it anymore
I’m getting my money back
Story question, and I'll gladly accept links to previous conversation as an answer: do we know who the narrator is? It's the one reveal I didn't get after the credits, and it's unusual on Supergiants' games for the narrator to not be a character in the game
did you put TD to max? o.o
What's TD?
||TD - Tight Deadline||
pinned message in #h1-high-heat-strategies with all abreviations
man i need to git gud
Ohhh, that. Not gonna lie, the first tight deadline is not nearly as terrifying as I thought
the first two yes
I'm definitely not ready for 5:00 minutes
soon enough
Valiant effort!
only got one under 20 run with spear
so yeah ||TD3|| not happening any time soon for me
I'm slowly working my way up the heat ladder. I think the max I have on right now is 4.
@manic bobcat I figured it out. ||Hidden aspect of the bow take 2.1 times longer to charge than the other bow aspects.||
orpheus is a guy?????
Yes, as in actual mythology
i didnt get the full context but do u mean u completed 40 runs???
what? whoa.... srsly?
pls tell me you really thought that's a girl?
40 heat
No. They are referring to ||heat||. If you don't know about that yet, then you will later
oh yea i know. but 40 heat? whoa.... that is something
Yea, it's impressive
i barely pass 3 heat 😦
You'll get there :)
i doubt so. 😦 that very first heat always cause me problem. where the foe do extra dmg
what 3 ||heat|| did you chose?
||EM1 & EM2|| and ||TD1|| are pretty easy to achieve
sorry mind me asking but why did u guys put a spoiler on heat? i mean... it is an endgame content
Well, if you don't like that one, then don't do that one
ooo yeah, you might be doing the harder heats first
i don't think heat is a spoiler in this channel
there's definitely easy ones
i'd rather doit safe with spoilers :)
i already knew abt the heat before i completed the game. it didnt even bother me
like TD1 - TD2 feels free
because nothing to do with storyline
TD2 can be hard if you arent that quick
EM is not necessarily easy though
EM1&2 are definitively the easiest and quickest
It's with the other pacts that they feel more difficult imo
and they also dont make the game inbetween bosses harder
you only have to worry about furies and hydra and thats... nice if you dont struggle with them with 0 heat
The fury fight gets much harder and so do the other 2. Hydra is faster, but more deadly. And Theseus is a pain in the butt in EM3. Gonna take me a while to get used to him
fury gets much harder?
I'd say so. Especially if Tisiphone is one of the additional furies.
Took me a while to adapt to it
well if you break down EM1:
||tisiphone as bonus does damage over a bigger area that you have more than enough time to easily dodge; later she will make the arena foggy||
||alecto as bonus spawns occasional sawblades and projectile spawners||
||meg whips and sometimes also spawns projectile spawners||
as soon as you see and know what/who you have to dodge it gets pretty easy
It does get easier. I will not lie though, it was incredibly overwhelming the first run
thats true, but the learning curve with that EM fight is pretty good
EM1 is free
||especially since alecto hates fighting with meg and will therefore sometimes not be there at all, so you just have meg as main and tisiphone... there||
Eventually
TD1 is free if you have easy sub 30 runs
like FO it's best to get used to the higher levels
EM1 depends on how much you struggle with tisiphone
FO on its own is difficult
once you play it a lot you get it down
thats... always the case
and at that point you can pretty much go it every run
FO1 feels like nothing changed, FO2 SUCKS
EM2 is more annoying that difficult
true
I've learned it from speedruns
especially with the magma damage bonus
FO means what?
forced overtime
i forget the pact of punishment name,,,
What is forced overtime again?
enemies are faster ;_;
20% and 40%
FO1 = haha what
FO2 = F*** ME
the thing i like about EM2 is you can ||meg|| 4 heads at once
I recommend getting used to EM2 because once you do, EM1 will seem like a breeze
Dude screw forced overtime
if you use meg, yes
I mean FO2
sometimes i fall into magma and forget i have HS
Actually makes the game unplayable
my health just melting
again, practice
Ah, the only enemy buffs I've done so far is the extra damage and the armor perks one
you kind of have to relearn some stuff
yeah
i'm not quite used to final boss on FO2 yet
Also apparently cyberpunk has the most broken launch in years so that’s fun
Don’t buy this game
same :))) love it also when your casts drop onto the magma and you gotta jump there and get em :))))
but everything else cool
the biggest thing on FO2 i feel
is i can't rely on just reaction to dodge hydra's headslam
need to be ready for it
...also asterius
Just don't forget that high security affects the pots in the final fight. That's done me in a few times
i find it sad that you cant semi-stun hydra heads after their armor is down
my recommendation for starting off is TD1/2, Damage Control depending on how fast your weapon attacks, Underworld Customs, Middle Management, Forced Overtime if you are comfortable, then extreme measures 2
yeah, i'm cool with the pots
it would be broken, i get it
i mean, i've only gotten there like three times so far lmaoo but
so far haven't fallen in one
damage control is either free or a complete nightmaare
but just being used to being able to stun from all the stages and the heads are just like "haha naaaaaaah"
Once you get comfortable with high security, that's like the only big threat.
yeah and be sure you dont have the green mirror aspect on that turns your first attack to them to a stronger one ::))))))
I meeaannn
Underworld customs sounds way worse than it is
i misread the mirror aspects and just had this aspect switched for the entire game up until heat 32
Why ping :(
you just take some god rooms when you normally wouldn't and boom sell urge to kills
Which one is underworld customs? I'm not used to heat names yet
I don’t even play this game anymore why ping :(
it's all fun and games till UC has your best boons and you don't have any more rerolls
you have to sell one boon to move on to the next zone
OH GURLS ALL THE DIO'S ARE HERE
it's the one where
always keep one reroll
Ah, that one. I really... really don't want to have that on
of each region
how are my thicc dio lads?
still thicc
still
beautiful
you have to think about it but apart from that it's not bad
still Dio
😂
Kinda gave up on Hades tho
how so?
will return to it once they add new stuff
aka probably never
modding? :D
I wanted to try out cyberpunk
But it’s so broken
like unbelievably broken launch
I got my money back immediately
yeah how long did they already push back the release? a year?
i remember there being a giveaway with one of the summer sales that if you have cyberpunk as your top 1 on your wishlist you get it for free and then nothing
when i saw the first playthroughs i was heartbroken
Even free it wouldn’t be worth the storage space right now
reminds me of We Happy Few
how so?
that game was like super buggy
It just needs some patches. That's all
Even ignoring all the garbage around it
I know We Happy Few got a lot of patches
Hey all, totally welcome to discuss this down in video-games 👍
omg it’s someone from supergiant
anyways, FO2 sucks
dio you got them to react to you, beautiful
:)
not on high heat
yes
most high heats use FO2
when the choice is approval process vs enemies attacking faster
it can really make or break my game if i have FO2 on or not
you're picking the latter
approval process is weird
approval process just makes the game less fun
sometimes i dont like it/even hate it and then sometimes it's just gifted heat
question how comfortable are yall with chaos' hidden preview of chamber rewards?
It's really not that bad. You don't know what you get, but that's usually not a hinderance in the beginning/when your run has already developed
you only got two choices usuallly in the first place, just imagine it as one
Most importantly: it's not a run killer. Some chaos downsides can murder your run if you're not careful.
I live by the wise words of skelly when i have hidden previews on. Less prattle more battle boyo.
100% agreeing with it not being a runkiller, i'd personally still rather not have it in the very beginning so i actually get a nice foundation going (i feel like you get to decide more on whose boons you want in tartarus than elysium or asphodel; plus the gods you get in tartarus determine who you get in the whole run)
Yeah, that's how I think of it too
If I have the basics of my build, it's fine, if I need something specific still, I don't like it.
So I know many people love dionysus, but I think I've used him the least. What advice do you have in respect to his core boons?
p. s. I use strong drink and positive outlook all the time. It's the core package I don't touch much
Dio cast is very strong
only how dio's special sucks with most weapons
there's a lot of fun to be had with dio cast on hera
dio cast, yes, mighty boi
dio special is also neat on the bow
I only like most of his boons when i have a second status, but he has a few i cant remember the name of.
Dio attack can do a bit of work on the fists or rail, though Zeus is just better
Recently my runs have been Ares focused because dio refused to show up in any reward chambers
dio special on gun, sword, spear? nuh uh
I think I know what my next run is gonna be. I need the dio legendary anyways.
all hail the dio(s)
Try to combine it with Demeter for Ice Wine or Zeus for Scintillating Feast
ice wine is hella nice
How do you even remember the boon names
I need to see what those are. I don't know much about dio duo's tbh
🤷 I just do?
dio cast duos >>>> poseidon cast duos
Fax
By playing a lot
hunting blades is nice too
true
but demeter cast duos? uhhhh idk
or was the one demeter cast that follows not the enemies but you a legendary?
demeter cast dios are great
Demeter’s cast just blows
I mean
artemis duos are beautiful
True dat
Demeter's Cast is... very different
Sadly I don't have Hera upgraded, so hopefully it's still viable
Demeter cast is fun. I've had some solid runs with it
with a bunch of other boons it becomes pretty useful and a good way to apply Chill / enable Privileged Status, though
even lightning rod if you have infernal soul
My favorite artemis boon is support fire for obvious reasons
i just feel badass with arrows flying at everything while using melee lol
Myrion, do you think Stygian soul would be better for the hera dio cast run?
Deadly Reversal is insane if you have deflect on attack
and if ||dad|| spawns witches in
stygian soul would definitively be nice with dera dio cast run
myrion speak your bow wisdom
goty?
yes
honestly probably not
yeah i know... most likely not
on steam, maybe; on sites that also have tlou2 in the running? definitively not
it is one of the highest ranked steam games ever
I get goosebumps when a game i actually love gets nominated for once though
hades for example 😛
well even if it dosent its gonna be goty for me
same :)
First time I've been super invested into a singleplayer game since uh, like shining force exa
Got it less than a week ago its the first time im spending so much hours in a game so fast
at first I was kinda worried because I found it kinda easy but then the heat system fixed this problem
^
I didn't get too lucky, but that Hera run felt completely free!
Told ya it's fun!
Hades should take it but it will be a big upset if it does.
Tlou2 is just so popular
my AOTY and GOTY are both things that I found about a month after their release and didn't think I'd like that much, but after a while they became my absolute favorites
those being melee by dogleg and hades
I love hard drive so much
hades video game will be my person of the year for years to come 🤧
I've seen conflicting bits of info. To reveal ||hidden aspects, do you need five titan blood in each individual weapon to trigger their respective waking phrases?||
||I have Eris at level 3, which means I put 1+2+3 blood in it right? Still haven't been able to get Zeus to do the thing||
||I have the spear, shield and bow aspects already||
Yes, you are correct. You only need 5. The conversation has a percentage chance to occur, it is not a 100% guarantee right away. Took me a good few runs for him to say something
You need to equip it once and have him comment on your weapon
After that, it's just RNG
yep! and i just put enough ||blood into the fists just gotta find astereus||
guys someone explain why soem times u god gade has five thingys
That's just from having artemis as your call
Only god call that splits the gauge differently
I'm not sure what you mean
ahha
Not the only call the changes god gauge. ||Hades splits it into two sections||
lets go no dds
if you can get crit on cast it's OP as hell
Yeah but artemis has "anything can crit" boon
It's additional dps, and 10sec duration makes for quite a big difference
orpheus is a guy?????
it's not a lesbian retelling of the orpheus and eurydice myth, sadly

facepalm
:)))
LOL
sorry im not complaining or insulting anyone
im just shocked that orpheus is a guy. "he" look so feminine and that voice
yews he look like girl kinda
He got emo after the death of eurydice
honestly I rly like it, hades has such diverse character design
and voisactor is woman?
like most greek inspired games just make em all big swole dudes
in that game or the myth lore?
In the game
as a Greek person and a fun of it's mythology i laughed too hard at this lol
Probably the myth too
wait you're a greek? just wanna tell you how much i adore achilles. Not in the game though.. way before that
yes i am i like Achilles too
they are all good looking. even skelly
and Apollo im sad he's not in the game
Yeah, apollo really feels missing
Hera... WHO CARES LOL
he could bring plagues, heal, music, or sun stuff
hephaestus though
Hey quick question. I used the Pierced Butterfly (1% Attack up every time you clear a room without taking damage) for Tartarus. If I unequip the butterfly at the cabinet after the first boss do I lose the 11% buff I've gained so far? Basically is the buff tied to the item or is it tied to my character.
yea i was shocked too. perseus and apollo are the most well known in greek mythology. o well
even kraken
I think you lose it
Yes, you lose the buff tied to pierced butterfly if you unequip it
bummer
omg what if we get ti fight herceles as a dlc
yeah you loose all stacking keepsake buffs if you switch em
u mean hercules?
the prob with Herclus is.. what can he give?
hercules???
yes i speak english 50/50
that was a joke
im just bad at spelling
nono sorry. because the game also mentioned hera something
but im not sure if its hercules or the other one which i never heard of
and after he dies he goes on Olymbus so he could only be an Olymbian god and not a character living in hell
i know hercules is part of the myth
Daedalus: is the smith of the game. Hephaestus: crying alone in a cave
alot of stuf? because from th labours of hercules
Will there be dlcs?
yeah but I think his boons would be simple power ups it wouldnt be fun not 100%
but its not gonna be a prob that he's a demi-god Dionysus is too
dont know

it dosent need dlcs so it wouldnt be a surprise if it didnt got any
its full of content
Hercules could actually have been fun as a pure +damage thing - no side-effects, no nothing fancy, just raw strength.
Wonder if that would have been balanced 🤔
is that fun or just good?
Probably as a boon like Hermes' stuff, @keen cargo but for Strength rather than Speed.
I can get behind that, maybe +raw dmg -hp can worj
hmm i dont know
something like that yeah, could have been fun.
maybe it could be
Eh, was just reacting to "but what could he offer?"
The game is pretty complete as it stands
at least Hera and Hestia get some aspects Hephaestous is not even mentioned in the game so sad
I mean chaos pretty much does that, but there are temporary side effects
the only time it happened was Aphrodite talking about her husband but she didnt even say his name
Chaos gives +%, I imagine Hercules would give +flat
to make it something distinct and strong
interesting
Herclues would be like: you want muscle or no?
flat damage resistance seems cool
I hope the mod scene for Hades continues to grow and eventually experiments with that sort of new boon content
Ooh this has mods?
On PC, yes. Mostly a bunch of quality of life stuff, but also ways to manipulate which boon you get at the start and stuff like that
Herclues could give boosts on the boons you have already
like x2 critical chance
if you have artemis boons
Kinda op dont ya think
i dont think so idk
Same guy
Heracles is the greek name
but I don't remember seeing him mentioned
Heracles is a real person
Looked it up to make sure and yeah Hercules is the Roman version of Heracles. Weird.
@rustic valve he comes up
just me who thinks that hazard bomb should sinergyze with triple or 5 bombs?
It synergizes somewhat with Triple
I think in ref to the Wrights in zags room
It's Very Risky with Cluster Bombs
ohhh, yeah, true
he says somthing like "I'm not Hercules!"
@rustic valve if you pick one you cant pick another
so if you pick hazard you can pick any other bomb upgrade
onlye the area slowdown
Oh, really? I was going off how they work xD
I'm down for a dlc that gives characters some new clothes
due to the way the gra
the myth is fake Theseus is so annoying that his father decided to suicide when he saw him coming
oops accidentally hit enter
due to the way the graphics are made, there has to be 32 versions of each frame of animation
know what i would love? a dlc that gods can have synergy with specific weapons, like zeus shield with ares, so you could expand the area atk of the special or make it suck enemies xD
from what I understand
from what I understand the game actually uses 3d models which are baked to those 2d animations
ye
don't quote me on it though
so it would be a Lot of work
I'm 100% sure sgg has an automation system in place to go from model -> spritesheet
no way they do that by hand
I'd pay for a zagreas dlc where he wears Olympian colored clothes 
The underworld has an enforced goth style dress code. XD
Apparently some/a lot of it is hand drawn?
here you go! https://steamcommunity.com/app/1145360/discussions/0/1864993755183591660/#c1864993755185620425
So, as much as i love the base model for Zag, i feel like we should be able to change up his clothing/appearance to some degree. Could be simple reskins to complete overhauls. Would love to run around the underworld rocking some Hoplite inspired armor. Is this something we could see in the future? Is it something people apart from me would like ...
thanks, thats what I was (trying to) refer to
@manic bobcat i think you misunderstood
I meant that sgg probably has an automated process to convert the 3d models to a spritesheet
and that process is not done manually most likely
what i would love is a skip function
it gets really annoying some times to watch the ending scene every time XD
@burnt breach someone's asking about skipping the ending scene
oh damn, that's a lot of work
yeah I know, I plan to make a "stop wasting my time mod" to replace my existing skip death scene mod
PLEASE pm me or something like that when you do xD
the nexus mods bot in the modding server posts everytime a mod is published or updated
someone can confirm me if the mirror boon that lets you deal more damage to undamaged enemies, will always do dmg to enemies with armor ? like if they have armor they are always with full health so.. the bonus always aplies?
can you send me a invite to this server?
I post it everyday in #self-promotion
I wish the devs put the link in #readme-first

along with the speedrunning server
I did. thanks for the clarification
have you watched supergiant's "Inside Hades - 3D Modeling & Rigging" video? Paige explains it
There is so much backstab potential for achilles spear 😍
Hey @burnt breach we won't be adding community links to the readme because we want to keep it brief and aimed around our community's rules, but I've pinned the Hades Modding server invite to the self-promotion section. I'm not sure who would have "ownership" over sharing the Hades Speedrun discord there, but if it's shared I'll give that a pin as well.
lol people want dlc meanwhile I prefer them working on new game instead or having long break or both
I want more Hades. But I trust them to make the best choice for them
oh hey I didn't think you would see my random message haha
about the speedrun server I'll grab the invite link real quick and post it in #self-promotion
Woo, thank you!
Also, side note, omg, the Lucifer aspect is so different
Playing with it for the first time rn
I was surprised not to find one there already, at least not that the humble search bar could dig up.
done 
@hasty hinge the rail in general feels quite a bit different then the other weapons imo
but that might just be because it was the last one added
The rail is my favorite weapon
so i got used to the other ones
I cuddle it while sleeping at night
then the rail was added
All the weapons feel like Bastion
The weapons in Hades really make you feel like Batman
But the gameplay loop feels so much better for them imo in Hades
Or like spiderman with his exaggerated swagger
