what did it cost?
#h1-discussion
fading gazelle
smoky rune
374% on traps for the next 3 or 4 encounters
I also got chaos twice in Tartarus
So...
And made sure to equip Legendary/Duo mirror
carmine ravine
dats sounds pretty easy tbh
fading gazelle
It's a fair deal
floral matrix
you better have lol
north pier
I have nearly 100 runs with most going to ||styx|| and I go to ||chaos|| at every opportunity... i've gotten defiance one time.
fading gazelle
Nice!
north pier
What is the actual spawn rate
fading gazelle
Pretty much
floral matrix
does anyone think the egg would help or hurt??
north pier
shouldn't have an effect except guaranteeing that you see chaos
fading gazelle
keep in mind Defiance does require you to have another chaos boon with you
Chaos egg does not guarantee a gate, but does guarantee you better boons from chaos
floral matrix
it does?? I thought it was only no health lost on them
almost feels like i see more without it
rose nexus
imagine if ||instead of zag giving a peace sign when he dies, it was a thumbs up||
smoky rune
agreed. I just hate those runs where I take the egg and Chaos doesn't spawn
flat vapor
confirmation bias
when you're in between biomes, check the shop first to see if there's any lights of ixion
then grab eg
smoky rune
what are the lights of ixion??
fading gazelle
It's an item that guarantees a choas gate in the next chamber (if possible)
floral matrix
hey um wundertunge what aspect and keepsake did you use, not that I'm desperate or anything haha
they're pretty rare light of ixion that is, too
smoky rune
I always take shackle in Tartarus, and aspect of Talos
floral matrix
alr thanks ima try that now
smoky rune
talos on this run
floral matrix
good luck to you š
fading gazelle
The aspect and keepsake shouldn't matter...
daring badger
big fan of hades here, come to brasil
smoky rune
definitely a bit of the ol' RNG-esus on my side
and a prank from the universe on you @floral matrix haha
I'm sure you'll get it soon
The next time I run into Chaos, I'll put in a good word for you š
fading gazelle
big fan of hades here, come to brasil
welcome to the server! Hope you enjoy your stay in hell! 
smoky rune
smoky rune
and welcome @daring badger
floral matrix
big fan of hades here, come to brasil
welcome fren
smoky rune
it's not out in Brasil yet?
daring badger
it's not out in Brasil yet?
the game?
smoky rune
yes
shell spade
chaos defiance requires you to have another chaos boon before you get it because its a legendary
daring badger
well, the game is out here and the subtitles is very good
one thing I really liked about the game is that it is playable on any computer
smoky rune
agreed! The way they managed to use EA to get all the hardware in line is remarkable
My 5 year old laptop with an integrated GPU runs it
and it's beautiful with consistent FPS
my 11 years old pc get 40-45 fps
silent pumice
Anyone know where I could find the 
image? I'd really like to use it for a server with my friends.
heavy fossil
silent pumice
Thank you š
daring badger
same time
hollow furnace
Who would like to be able to sit down in chamber with Eurydice and just listen to her sing? Like when you enter next biome and can tak a look at it, all HUD goes away and her singing is slightly louder
daring badger
Who would like to be able to sit down in chamber with Eurydice and just listen t...
is a good idea
silent pumice
That'd be really nice. 
hollow furnace
I find all song in Supergiant Games beautiful and would really like to have such option. I know I can find it on Yt, but it's not the same for some reason
daring badger
I find all song in Supergiant Games beautiful and would really like to have such...
there's a soundtrack on steam
hollow furnace
Yeah, I know. I am thinking about buying it now
floral hazel
How on earth do you get thanatos to āhelpā once youāve already met him
Iāve run into him two times and no more
flat vapor
random chance, have to have taken damage within the last three rooms
hollow furnace
Oh, that is why he always helps me
floral hazel
Is there a certain amount you have to have taken?
quasi sedge
Is there a guide for post 1st escape? I'm trying to complete the game/story, but upping the difficulty is not something I'm looking forward to. Currently my goals is to max the reliques to 3 stars, and try to give nectar to everyone, until I can't give more, and max the mirror skills I have yet to max.
daring badger
Is there a guide for post 1st escape? I'm trying to complete the game/story, but...
there's a option on menu called "god mode"
daring badger
how do i get the last aspect?
do you need to talk more with the characters
remote anchor
how do i get the last aspect?
Spend blood
broken marsh
what keepsake should i use?
remote anchor
Whatever floats your boat
broken marsh
maybe an oppionion
hasty talon
Is there anything I can read or watch or listen to as prquel lore?
remote anchor
Depends a lot how you're playing
Some people take god keepsakes first two levels, then switch to something Good for bosses
remote anchor
Is there a guide for post 1st escape? I'm trying to complete the game/story, but...
Just keep beating the game on 0 heat then. The fight doesn't get harder.
hollow furnace
Is there anything I can read or watch or listen to as prquel lore?
Hm, I would suggest to start with Trojan war (Achilles and one more character from game) and read few myths, but do not go into Hades and Persephone, it's a spoiler
remote anchor
Jeez don't Read the iliad
remote anchor
But do Read a Wikipedia summary of the trojan war/the iliad
hollow furnace
Jeez don't Read the iliad
I agree, it is very weird thing to read. Mainly cause it is a song
remote anchor
If there's like a childrens book in greek mythology in your library, get that
hasty talon
Covid library
hasty talon
K I'll read it
I kinda know it already
What about that brad pitt troy movie
That any good? Lol
remote anchor
Trojan war is a good start, Perseus, Odysseus, Heracles, creation myth with the titans and so on
Dw
daring badger
or you play god of war
hollow furnace
Oh yes, that one was good
remote anchor
Like Cronos and Rhea is a good Wikipedia, will get you Up to Speed in most major players
hollow furnace
If you really want to avoid spoilers, don't read myth about Orpheus and one about Persephone and Hades
carmine ravine
you already spoiling it in the first place
hollow furnace
Well, you know her name from pretty early part and that is all I can see a spoiler in my messages
gloomy axle
can someone explain to me what Stubborn Defiance does?
broken marsh
do any of the contracts other then the work orders do anything?
brisk trail
one room
as in you can revive once in a room
not that it stacks (if that's what you were thinking)
iron arch
means that if you die in the room before boss fight, you revive with 30% hp if that's your amount
then, if you die again in that room, you die perm, however, if you go to another room first, you can die again and revive again
open zealot
when you have an option between shop and a boon i've noticed the same god is offered in the shop option, is this a coincidence or part of the game
tight agate
I got 2 hammers that slow down charge
and bows unusable
5 secs for complete charge kek
it's unironically a melee weapon now
bitter jungle
which one should i take btween blackout and dyo+zeus duo
in terms of how rare they are
cuz i got an offer to pick either
manic dome
I streamed Hades tonight and forgot to mention it in here š Omg what an amazing game
hollow heron
"Our Discord contains a more-structured system for submitting feedback about Hades, if you would like an alternative to this forum. Please check the pinned posts in #hades-feedback for details." (from https://steamcommunity.com/app/1145360/discussions/2/ ) <- A pinned Steam thread seems to be alluding to a Discord chat that doesn't actually exist.
brisk trail
I think they removed the channel when the v1.0 launched
opaque nexus
yeah
granite ether
That chanel was removed a couple of weeks into 1.0
gaunt valley
flame wheel contract?
distant night
the charon buyable to never see those little chariots of satan himself?
strong token
Why do they sound like cats?
radiant estuary
Why not?
distant night
^
strong token
Dammit XD
hasty talon
is there any any canon prequel story content?
strong token
Uhh thereās a couple ||flashbacks|| I found in the game so far.
thick swallow
Hades is an entirely self-contained story, though it draws heavily from Greek myth
hasty talon
@thick swallow k thx. was hoping for a comic or something
but all good
ill just get started
steady crane
||yo wth Theseus didn't said a word||
radiant estuary
So just a though I had, what if there was a cast-based weapon aspect that focused specifically putting out a whole bunch of casts in rapid succession?
gaunt valley
you mean like the cast bow
radiant estuary
Not quite like that
I mean something like one that lets you spam a whole bunch of casts from the get-go
Like a quantity over quality thing
gaunt valley
?
steady crane
that could be broken
imagine throwing like 6 or 7 festive fogs
radiant estuary
Like the main thing I could think of as a counter to that was a penalty to actual cast damage as a result
Like sure you can rapidly cast a few times in a row, but those casts won't hit quite as hard as they would on another aspect either
opaque heron
It works only on the last room of any given tunnel.
green maple
ouf..
green maple
So just a though I had, what if there was a cast-based weapon aspect that focuse...
||Beowulf||
opaque heron
Same for Thanās keepsake
opaque heron
No, it still works in Styx
opaque heron
Also if you take Than/Hermesā keepsake off, you lose the bonus
opaque heron
If you want to keep getting value off of the keepsake in Styx/Final Fight, then yes
radiant estuary
Basically, it's one of those things you put on from the start of a run and never swap out
green maple
ohhhh alright thanks
opaque heron
If you feel like trading whatever bonus you have on is worth acorn or smth else, then it is an option. Up to you though.
glass sentinel
Is the pool of gods determined at the start of a run? So if I see 3 gods in Tartarus I will only see those gods? If I skip over a god, will that god keep showing up?
radiant estuary
I think it picks 4-5 gods total at the start of a run plus Hermes and any you force-spawn via keepsakes
brisk trail
Once you get boons from four gods only those four will show up (excluding Hermes)
green maple
nobody talks about chaos sadly
brisk trail
You can force more of course but it will replace a god's slot
glass sentinel
so if i only have 2 gods and keep skipping the other 2, will i keep saying diff gods for the remaining 2 slots
or will it be the same ones?
glass sentinel
keep seeing*
brisk trail
No idea actually
glass sentinel
ah damn i def should not have bought this ares boon then
green maple
so like for example
glass sentinel
haha
brisk trail
I feel like some gods haunt me
green maple
if you begin with arty/aphro and keep on and not taking anyone else
but still, some god will stalk you really hard
brisk trail
I think it will give you more gods
green maple
i saw zeus in 6 chambers when i didnt really even pick him
uncle really?
i dont even need you it was a ||rama|| build
steady crane
He just wanted to help smh
glass sentinel
so if I force a god, does that put it in the pool even if I already have 4 boons?
or will I only ever see that god once?
brisk trail
it will kick a god out of your pool
pliant sparrow
any tips with fists at 20 heat, asphodel? just lost 3 dd to lava/em2 lernie, would have lost run if not for patroclus in elysium
pliant sparrow
one each of the middle few, fo2, em2
granite ether
How comfy are you with TD?
pliant sparrow
td2
its literally only lava thats the problem since fists are so close ranged tho
every other region i'm fine
only lost 1 dd to final boss, but 2 to lernie lol
granite ether
Do you have HS on? If so turn that off and put that one point of heat into something else
brisk trail
DC should be free with fists if you're not taking that
granite ether
DC is far from free for fists
brisk trail
it's a fast-hitting weapon?
pliant sparrow
yah
brisk trail
dunno. it def felt free to me
strong token
Im too impatient for any weapon that require charging lol
pliant sparrow
the problem is lernies heads like how am i supposed to hit them without getting lava'd
gaunt valley
cast
granite ether
A good call also helps
gaunt valley
indeed
brisk trail
do you lose track of where you're at when you're dash attacking?
pliant sparrow
yah i find myself over the edge sometimes when attacking his smaller heads
also his slam does so much damage but with fists i have to go close
brisk trail
simply back off when lernie starts slammin
granite ether
Headbanger Lernie can be quite difficult for fists
brisk trail
tell them to turn off the metal music
granite ether
They can't hear us, having that music up so loud, disturbing the other heads while they sleep
brisk trail
nah it's zag bringing a whole metal band with him
distant night
what if you could bring orpheus with you
opaque nexus
Did @flat vapor just get mod
flat vapor
;p don't forget wightfyre
opaque nexus
Did you like apply or something
flat vapor
don't know if i can say, really
glass sentinel
If I purge a boon and it's the only boon I have from that god, will it get removed from the pool?
glass sentinel
Once you get boons from four gods only those four will show up (excluding Hermes...
so hermes does not count towards this 4 right?
brisk trail
no to both
glass sentinel
kk ty
winter harbor
Think of hermes like a Daedalus hammer
glass sentinel
infernal soul + aphro special is what I hear
if you mean specifically with boons
also you can load casts during the charge
if you mean like using it
glass sentinel
dio is better with stygian i think? but with infernal soul, dio has a big delay
brisk trail
but so do all other shields except zeus for me so maybe a me thing
granite ether
@brisk trail 4th aspects are spoilers in this channel please use spoiler tags
brisk trail
forgot abt that sorry
glass sentinel
thank u for the reminder aggy
faint burrow
wow the bow sucks
brisk trail
nah
molten nymph
dio is better with stygian if you can get extra cast stones
stone gulch
whyd i just get the option to ||mute hermes|| lmfao
brisk trail
quit skipping his text he talks fast enough already
quiet gull
wow the bow sucks
Dont attack, always dash attack
That's it that's the secret
Just never attack while stationary
languid plover
how to make ||beowulf|| feel gud
For Cast: Athena or Artemis
For Attack/Charge: Ares
If you get Ares - Athena duo, you can load your cast then charge attack to position yourself behind your enemies. Bonus if you have "Exposed" and any backstab bonus
AFAIK, it won't appear on the first option. It may appear if you reroll
quiet gull
Duos cannot show up in trials
languid plover
Duos cannot show up in trials
not even re-roll?
radiant estuary
Yes
faint burrow
lol the last boon i got before hades gave me merciful end
brisk trail
this run had 6 duos on it || https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/785675403364794408/unknown.png ||
hidden bow spoilers
faint burrow
i got the dream this run, doom, stacking doom, merciful end and no knockback attack
just need the delay doom
it wont play
brisk trail
try opening it in ur browser
faint burrow
ok it works now
brave dove
trying out eris rail
faint burrow
yeah decent chunk on hades
brave dove
mine is level one but HOLY IS IT GOOD
brave dove
the one where u get bonus dmg standing in the special explosion
brave dove
y not?
faint burrow
i hate that i just waste aphro calls because the boss goes immune
pliant sparrow
the laser one is hidden not eris
faint burrow
and the greater call just facks off
pliant sparrow
just wait for the boss to go immune
brisk trail
just learn the immunity periods 4head
pliant sparrow
3 immunities at first phase, 1 at second
brisk trail
wish I could nuke phase 1
brisk trail
merciful end is busted period
winter harbor
phase 2 just melts with crystal beam/crystal clarity
i don't even know why there's the aphro duo when it's far inferior
brave dove
merciful end?
brisk trail
meme beam
brave dove
ohhh
faint burrow
any skill that deflects triggers doom immediatly
brave dove
the instant doom thing?
brisk trail
I was doing some p good melting with aphro beam and Poseidon sord
brave dove
so how does crystal clarity and crystal beam melt?
faint burrow
so if you get stacking doom + the .5s delay doom you get a few stacks each deflect its insane
gaunt valley
||how do i do sisyphuses favor?||
faint burrow
||how do i do sisyphuses favor?||
keep talking to him and gifting him nectar.
dont forget to talk to dwayne johnson
winter harbor
His second phase stays still long enough that it's easier for the beams to just focus on him
Of course not! ||Bouldy|| is a national treasure
brave dove
how much dmg do the beams do >.<
brave dove
spoiler the ||bouldy||
gaunt valley
guess i just need more runs
brisk trail
yeah but if im on his ass the entire time I want cold embrace
faint burrow
fixed
brave dove
so hows aspect of hades spear work?
molten nymph
hold your attack to charge up a spin
after at least one flash you'll do a spin if you release the button or dash
winter harbor
You do the spin attack, enemies take more damage briefly
molten nymph
enemies that are hit by the spin takes up to +150% damage
winter harbor
quick spin hammer good
molten nymph
works great with artemis
molten nymph
how confident are you
brave dove
sorta
molten nymph
serrated point is the best, flaring spin is the safest
brave dove
aight
winter harbor
triple jab is awkward to aim
You take it thinking "cool, pseudo aoe", but it makes it harder to aim at single targets
winter harbor
||Beowulf|| was strongly against backstabbing
He was the most honorable of heroes
(Note: I don't know how true this is)
winter harbor
||That's what hidden shield is called||
brave dove
oh
:<
so i chose the dio boon where u get hp when u pick up a nectar
and it gives u one nectar
the nectar spawned on the skull boat thing in asphodel
i went to pick it up and i instead got sent to the next encounter
brisk trail
rip
quiet gull
5% chance, according to wiki
brave dove
WEW
brisk trail
u can also get a diamond from it
brisk trail
like .03%
brave dove
dayum
and also wew serrated point dishs out LOADS of dmg
aight alls left is to beat ||Hades|| with fists for the reward
placid plank
asking for help with decision: should I replace my 130 doom damage on attack with this instead? https://i.imgur.com/pLR8ynI.png
pliant sparrow
which weapon?
pliant sparrow
which trident?
pliant sparrow
doom doesnt really work with that
placid plank
I mean, 130 damage isn't bad thou
pliant sparrow
i dont think zeus does either
placid plank
I can mostly hit one enemy, go to another, and they took more damage
pliant sparrow
i would go artemis tbh
placid plank
I can't go artemis XD
pliant sparrow
to build for dash attack
placid plank
yeah...
well I'm in the selection menu rn, so not sure whether to pick the heroic or keep the epic I currently have
or pick one of the other 2 options
thick swallow
If youāre on Serrated, Iād probably switch? But Idunno
empty flame
if Zeus procs on those serrated point attacks it's better
empty flame
that's on special right?
thick swallow
But also āgo Artemisā doesnāt really help š
brave dove
so im using demeter fists
and this hammer is
rush kick
draining cutter
or breaching cross
which do i choose?
thick swallow
Breachingās generally best
pliant sparrow
hm yah zeus is better
empty flame
breaching
empty flame
Breaching just melts armor if you dash attack even a bit
molten nymph
i had a good fun draining cutter talos run where i just spam special
but yea, cant say its good
rush kick is just unwieldy
brave dove
?
molten nymph
you get teleported to an enemy
brave dove
oh
molten nymph
sometimes not the one you expect
brisk trail
I love rush kick
empty flame
generally explosive launcher is what you want for demeter special, but kinetic launcher also works
brisk trail
explosive launcher was amazing
molten nymph
i dont like forced movement in general for this game
stuff like achilles, rush kick, that weird sword special hammer
i get disoriented easily
brave dove
wut do kinetic or explosive launcher do?
brisk trail
brave dove
oo
fading gazelle
Kinetic lets you charge your special while explosive makes it do a nice explosion
Essentially
fading gazelle
yes
molten nymph
flying cutter is amazing on demeter... on paper
i never got the charge off
brave dove
for fists is it
attack combo but dont finish it
then dash
attack combo but dont finish it
then dash
and so on?
molten nymph
yep
lunar cypress
Has anyone ever found Price of Midas helpful?
molten nymph
if i'm running SD i'm taking it
lunar cypress
It just gives you so little
lunar cypress
The thing in shop that lets you spend a bit of health for a tiny amount of gold
rose nexus
Id like to see zagreus with a 4.5ft long buster sword
waxen juniper
I love ||Queen Persephone's|| outfit š
rose nexus
I love ||Queen Persephone's|| outfit š
We stan š
hasty hinge
I do price of Midas when I have full health. There's been plenty of times where I do it and then get healed back up instantly
earnest dirge
someone found that when you use Stubborn Defiance and Skellies tooth - athena gives another death defiance. im not sure if this is a oversight? cuz she used to give DD's before and now she's about refills " on switch "(edited)
Message #h1-tech-support
brave dove
||"Cerberus moves for no one but the satyr sack"||
brisk trail
someone found that when you use Stubborn Defiance and Skellies tooth - athena gi...
wdym? like when you get an extra athena defiance to refill lost SD?
brave dove
ok so with crystal clarity and crystal beam
||u can essentially track where Hades is going in his Invis||
brisk trail
Yup.
earnest dirge
@brisk trail i mean he/she got a 3rd Death defiance
brisk trail
Hunting Blades will do the same thing slightly less reliably/obviously.
earnest dirge
when using stubborn defiance in conjunction with skellies tooth
brisk trail
that's a common strat
lost kraken
Thanatos is hawt
earnest dirge
athena used to only refill it right?>
brisk trail
with SD it's a bit diff
earnest dirge
yeah
i heard that
i was just wondering if this was a previous athena remnant
because she was made to give extra DD;s
before they changed it to refills
brisk trail
ah, idk if it was meant to work like that at the start
but amir and etc probably know about it since it's commonly done
earnest dirge
If you get the Athena Boon while using SD, if you have an empty slot it'll give you a DD. That slot should disappear after being used though, same as when you swap out Skelly's Tooth appearntly it dissapears
@brisk trail response from tech help
brisk trail
yeah
remote anchor
You can more or less track the boss' by their footprints too :)
brave dove
yup
URGHHHH
trying to complete the prophecy thing to beat final boss with all weapons
i have fists left and i just died when final boss almost died :<
brisk trail
it be like that sometimes
winter harbor
You'll get there
The prophecy to beat final boss under every condition from pact of punishment is pretty difficult too
weary widget
Just don't do them all at once, spread the pain over a few runs
hoary elk
So uh I havenāt played in a little while, like maybe since the end of October- have there been updates to the art or am I crazy???? I was looking in the patch notes and it didnāt say anything but things look different
hazy sedge
@hoary elk like what. The maps or the characters?
next sphinx
Just bought āThe Song of Achillesā and Iām playing Hades to put off reading it because I donāt think Iām ready for all the pain
Ooh I do need to unlock Aspect of Demeter
brave dove
YEET finally beat final boss without using DD
and with the demeter fists
completed a prophecy yeee
inland plover
Why is there no pom indicator on boons? I know some can get hit with a pom and some can't. Is there any indicator that I'm missing in game to know in the moment?
remote anchor
Random afaik
rustic valve
Not random as such, but no there's no indicator.
inland plover
Weird. They could just put a tiny pom in the corner to indicate if a boon can be pom'd or not
rustic valve
Legendaries can't be hit, nor can duos
inland plover
yeah that much I kow
rustic valve
Then there's some exceptions where it just doesn't make sense, like rare crop
radiant estuary
Also, any boons from Hermes can't be pommed at all
rustic valve
Hermes and Chaos aren't pommable either
urban cloud
rustic valve
and then... I think that's pretty much it
inland plover
I knew chaos but wasn't aware all hermes stuff wasn't able to be pom'd
rustic valve
Yeah, Hermes' stuff would also get pretty crazy if you could pom it
inland plover
agreed
rustic valve
Ocean's Bounty might be one that can't be pommed, but not 100% sure
brisk trail
It cannot be Pom'd, it can be hit with rarity boosts.
inland plover
I would say adding a small indicator or icon on the boons would be fairly easy and help confusion. Then again you might just figure it out with time. Even though I have 150 hours in the game and still don't know all the boons you can pom or not
rustic valve
Oh, yeah, and Dio has a few: After Party, Strong Drink and Premium Vintage
basically, anything that has a really unique kind of effect
slim grail
aspect of guanyu sucks
brisk trail
Nah.
warped ermine
Are the enemies and characters 3d? I have my suspicions they are, but i'm not entirely convinced yet.
rustic valve
I would say adding a small indicator or icon on the boons would be fairly easy a...
I mean, for the most part you don't really need to know, right? You just take the boons you need, whether or not they're pommable.
warped ermine
I ask because i've played some games with 2d characters that were just thousands of images ready to be displayed at any one time and looked convincingly 3d. It's smart, but why would that be the case
brave dove
3d im pretty sure
rustic valve
If you want to optimize what gets hit by a pom, you avoid taking too many boons
hard patio
I hope they continue to add gods and characters to this game
Especially big ones like Hera and Apollo
manic bobcat
yeah, about that...
hard patio
I guess thatās a no
manic bobcat
it's a unlikely.
brisk trail
Unless we get a surprise DLC announcement the game is almost certainly complete in its current state.
||Skelly|| doesn't attack.
inland plover
I mean, for the most part you don't really need to know, right? You just take th...
Well if I want to avoid getting boons that might eat up a pom it can be annoying
brisk trail
He is purely an aggro target.
manic bobcat
Skelly only takes, he doesn't give
brisk trail
Skelly is a greedy lover
warped ermine
Skelly is so mysterious. I love trying to talk with every character in the game to try and figure out where they came from or who/what they are exactly. lol
molten nymph
i mean
its kinda obvious from the start that skelly is ||skelly||
warped ermine
they were the first one ||i maxed hearts with||
hard patio
Well thatās sad to hear...
slim grail
yea. i thought since skelly was in the game, he got something to do with mythology along with the gods but turns out he is just a new character addition for the sake of the game
rustic valve
Well if I want to avoid getting boons that might eat up a pom it can be annoying
Basically: Is the effect something special that only this one boon does or only boons from Hermes/Chaos do? Usually unpommable. Is it something similar to most other boons? Pommable.
So the special stuff Dio or Demeter have and the one-and-done boons from Poseidon: Unpommable.
manic bobcat
Haven't you heard of the legendary commander?
slim grail
Haven't you heard of the legendary commander?
skelly?
molten nymph
sush
waxen juniper
So I can use some advice on poseidon. The more I use him, the more I realize that abusing knockback can have some serious downsides (having poseidon's attack on rail killed my run).
What are some good tips to be mindful of when it comes to poseidon?
rustic valve
That should give you a decent rule of thumb in the meantime, Dameron.
molten nymph
poseidon is rarely used as a main dps afaik
brisk trail
||Schelemeus is one of the great maritime captains of Ancient Greece||, are you kidding me?
molten nymph
maybe on supersoaker but that build's kinda meme
manic bobcat
So I can use some advice on poseidon. The more I use him, the more I realize tha...
You are right. Knockback is a bane, not a boon
slim grail
Well if you don't know then you don't know.
i googled it but found no evidence that skelly is a part of greek mythology. what should i search on? š¦
manic bobcat
That's why Poseidon stuff is a bit meh, unless you are aiming for Seastorm
rustic valve
it's pretty terrible on the fists, though
slim grail
plss tell me. i really wanna know cos skelly is my fav
manic bobcat
Nah, knockback on the bow is pretty nice
True. But there are better options
brave dove
skelly isnt part of greek myth
molten nymph
there are case to be made for poseidon in your secondary attacks
or on dashes
but its not divine dash
manic bobcat
Poseidon stuff is in the realm of workable, but not like Yeah, I'm looking for it type of OP
rustic valve
True. But there are better options
Sure, but it's hardly a bane.
Yeah, that's fair.
molten nymph
ye
manic bobcat
Sure, but it's hardly a bane.
well you yourself said it's terrible on fists
molten nymph
poseidon on spear helped me quite a bit early on
rustic valve
Yeah, on the fists, well, the fist attack, it's bad.
Because you need to hit so often and the knockback stops that
manic bobcat
so, a bane?
rustic valve
but that's like saying that Zeus is generally a bane, just because it's bad on sword 4
waxen juniper
Sword is alright tbh. Just slap it on the special
weary widget
Poseidon dash on Eris gave me one of my easiest clears
manic bobcat
but that's like saying that Zeus is generally a bane, just because it's bad on s...
Zeus on sword is bad except in niche cases, like flurry Zag, if you are into that kind of zany runs.
brave dove
best boons for fist 4?
waxen juniper
Zeus shines on rail
molten nymph
best boons for fist 4?
ME
brave dove
ME?
molten nymph
merciful end
weary widget
I like Zeus on fists too.
ME is frustrating when you just cannot get the duo.
molten nymph
its probably the best weapon for merciful end
radiant estuary
Honestly ME seems kind of frustrating in general
weary widget
Absolutely hated my ME fist run that never got ME
molten nymph
alternatively i like +% damage boons on it
since it does a chunk with each slice
i pretend the dash upper isnt a thing
brave dove
y not?
radiant estuary
Like even if I have the boon that makes Doom take longer to come down, it doesn't seem like it's long enough to make it worthwhile
molten nymph
sidenote: even without ME i like doom on it
rustic valve
Zeus on sword is bad except in niche cases, like flurry Zag, if you are into tha...
That doesn't make Zeus a bane - just not good for that weapon
molten nymph
because its easy to apply it to the whole room if you have 4 dashes
brave dove
talking about the not using dash upper
manic bobcat
That doesn't make Zeus a bane - just not good for that weapon
I think we are arguing semantics here. I'll just change my wording to this, Knockback is most of the time an annoyance except in niche cases. If you can make it work more often than I do, more power to you.
manic bobcat
take
brave dove
collosuss knuckle
manic bobcat
it's great
molten nymph
colosus
brave dove
aight
waxen juniper
So what makes splash dash good?
weary widget
High damage, good aoe room clear, sea storm
With breaking wave, it makes Styx a cakewalk
rustic valve
I think we are arguing semantics here. I'll just change my wording to this, Knoc...
I feel like I can make knockback work on anything but the fists - it's rarely a priority, because there's usually better stuff, but it's not an annoyance to me. (And even on the fists, on the special it can be okay, but there's much better stuff)
brisk trail
I feel like the Sea Storm nerf took a lot of viability out of Tidal Dash.
rustic valve
Eh, what Sketch said still holds true. It makes those tiny rooms with a ton of tiny vermin a lot nicer to deal with, especially on slower weapons
Splash Dash is always a nice dash for Bow 4, I think. Gives you space to use your attack properly.
brisk trail
I actually sold it on the 14 Heat Hell Mode clear I just did with Rama.
Triple Shot gave way more than Tidal Dash did.
manic bobcat
So what makes splash dash good?
Tidal Dash gets buff at 1.0 with higher damage and higher boon scaling, opening up Seastorm which is good.
But its surge in popularity also partly comes from speedrunning meta where people like to squeeze every bit of damage out of everything, (Eris Tidal Dash used to be OP OP, and still decent now).
brisk trail
Mind, I also play with MKB so the knockback can put stuff out of my target which hurts my DPS even further.
People who play with aim assist might get more usage out of it.
manic bobcat
I think it's fine. But there are more enjoyable dashes (cough Divine cough) if you just want to have a solid time.
rustic valve
Triple Shot gave way more than Tidal Dash did.
Ah, yeah, in that case I can see selling it.
cedar imp
people tell me that zeus is best for secret rail attack
manic bobcat
I personally can't stand Tidal Dash, it's boring
brisk trail
I wouldn't say I find Divine Dash more exciting or enjoyable, just better.
Personally, the most "enjoyable" Dashes to me are Thunder, Drunken, and Blade.
Those get weird with the right builds and in the best ways.
rustic valve
Divine Dash is boring but effective, imo
weary widget
Teach me the ways of drunken dash, I have only ever used it out of desperation
brisk trail
It's secret viable with ||Arthur.||
90% of the time you're looking for Deadly Strike anyway, and it helps chip away at Damage Control with slower builds on higher Heat.
manic bobcat
Teach me the ways of drunken dash, I have only ever used it out of desperation
Use it to enable duo boons / legendary
burnt breach
Hey, do you guys have quality of life suggestions?
manic bobcat
The damage is a bit... underwhelming
rustic valve
It's also nice for enabling Privileged Status
rustic valve
Hey, do you guys have quality of life suggestions?
Dameron above asked for a "pommable" indicator on boons.
weary widget
Hey, do you guys have quality of life suggestions?
Stop giving me 5 sacks
burnt breach
So far I've added :
-Boon list cosmetic for Daedalus
-Cannot get Nourished Soul with LC4
-Permanent Depth Counter
manic bobcat
Hey, do you guys have quality of life suggestions?
Chamber Number, Sack Number, Pick Starting Boon (especially with AP2)
burnt breach
@rustic valve @weary widget yeah those are nice ideas
manic bobcat
Or, in my dream, Speedrun mode, skip all dialogues
Shut up and just give me the boons.
burnt breach
Chamber Number, Sack Number, Pick Starting Boon (especially with AP2)
by sack number I'm assuming you mean a config to set your sack rng? as for starting boon there's a mod for that
manic bobcat
Yeah, I actually do have that mod installed. It sets a fixed seed if you pick your startingboon
burnt breach
I know for the hermes cup they used a mod to always get 3 sacks but it wasn't released on nexus mods
radiant estuary
@burnt breach A list of hammer possible upgrades for each weapon in the codex, similar to the boon lists
manic bobcat
So basically if your boon gets crossed by AP2, you are done.
burnt breach
<@!186162299298512898> A list of hammer possible upgrades for each weapon in the...
I've done this already 
weary widget
Oh, boon / hammer incompatibilities would be nice
burnt breach
Oh, boon / hammer incompatibilities would be nice
yeah this is something I might add
need to see how annoying the logic needed is
manic bobcat
I know for the hermes cup they used a mod to always get 3 sacks but it wasn't re...
yeah, I actually have access to that š but since you asked, I just though a mod that just combines everything would be nice, though the current system of installing mods makes it easy already so I suppose the priority is low.
thank you, btw. I know you did a lot for the modding community
burnt breach
thank you, btw. I know you did a lot for the modding community
Eh, you're welcome 
@weary widget never mind it was pretty simple https://imgur.com/ALFSJyz
molten nymph
please tag me if you finished the room counter mod 
burnt breach
we have the nexus mods bot posting new mod releases/updates in the modding server
@molten nymph
molten nymph
can you dm me the modding server?
burnt breach
I post the link every day in #self-promotion
brave dove
i just got another nectar from poseidon'
brave dove
niceee
modest lantern
I was actually one hit
brave dove
as in u got only once?
brave dove
how much hp did u have to be one hit >.<
modest lantern
Huh
burnt breach
I think they mean that they were 1 hit away from dying
brave dove
ohhh
burnt breach
Dameron above asked for a "pommable" indicator on boons.
@inland plover https://imgur.com/1Jj3gHT
inland plover
<@!281307056361701376> https://imgur.com/1Jj3gHT
I think the big icons are a bit much. Looking at the aspect of Poseidon there I think adding a little pom in the bottom corner of the card would work. That would show this boon can be affected by poms. Of course it wouldn't be on the sword aspect but you get the idea.
burnt breach
I think the big icons are a bit much. Looking at the aspect of Poseidon there I ...
don't worry, it's more like a proof of concept right now
inland plover
don't worry, it's more like a proof of concept right now
I just think if you look in the boon list for gods or when selecting boons you should see some kind of icon to indicate this boon can be buffed with a pom. The concept is pretty good!
burnt breach
I just think if you look in the boon list for gods or when selecting boons you s...
that's the idea
inland plover
I hope something like this gets added
burnt breach
I hope something like this gets added
honestly not sure, the only reason I made the original version of this mod (add boon list to hammer) is because the devs clearly said they would not add it
modest lantern
Now how the hell do I unlock the door to the right of Achilles
high river
they should add Hephaestus in and his keepsake forces a Daedalus hammer at the start and his boons give armor or weapon upgrades in damage or damage risistance
rustic valve
Now how the hell do I unlock the door to the right of Achilles
Story, just keep playing. You'll get access eventually.
modest lantern
Are you telling me I need to beat the game more?
robust sundial
yes
rustic valve
Yup
high river
keep talking to people and keep beating hades
rustic valve
You get access once during the epilogue and more freely after
modest lantern
carmine ravine
keep talking to people and keep beating hades
final boss name is a spoiler her, tag the name
heavy fossil
rapid forum
||I mean, it's pretty funny to tell people that the final boss is a spoiler while the literal name of the game is Hades||
carmine ravine
some people recognize hades as the name of the underworld itself
manic bobcat
The one you like. Seriously.
rapid forum
yep
brisk trail
chiron bow only because i like chiron bow
manic bobcat
Then I cam suggest what I like
rapid forum
Though because I have Arty as pfp, Bow is my fav
manic bobcat
I like Zag Bow
rapid forum
:D
modest lantern
Artemis is my favorite god
rapid forum
join the cult of Artemis
manic bobcat
One of us one of us one of us
modest lantern
Nah, Scott Pilgrim is better
How do I unlock hidden aspects for weapons?
I just need to have put one upgrade into all the other, right?
manic bobcat
Check out pins in #h1-story-discussion
It has masks so you can only spoil yourself as much as you allow.
modest lantern
Well so I need to get like at least 5 blood
That's sucks
But possible now that ||I have the pact of punishment||
So that's 6 more free
keen cargo
the easiest way to farm the 6 for me was || using underworld customs pact ||
modest lantern
I wish there was a way to get more rather than just well, just the ways that exist right now
manic bobcat
||Pact||
Styx Shop
Broker Trade
Fated List
Fishing
The ways to get Blood, in order of abundance
molten nymph
...there's a fish that gives blood?
modest lantern
Yeah, what?
manic bobcat
Yeah, there is one.
brisk trail
Does LC affect ||Guan Yu||?
modest lantern
Master of arms seems pretty easy to get. Just time consuming
Alright, I'm going to sleep
cedar imp
is there any way to intentionally hide the mouse cursor in game
slim grail
this game makes me got invested in greek mythology!!
manic bobcat
I know right! The game is so cool the whole nation of Greek decided to build their folk lores and mythology around it!
brisk trail
Truly iconic
gaunt sorrel
Will there ever be more gods (The missing ones are Hera,Apollo,Hephaestus,Hestia)?
manic bobcat
Unlikely.
It's up to SGG. But right now, they have no such plan. Things may change in the future, but we are all in the dark
Though some of said Gods appear as cameos, so they aren't exactly "missing."
gaunt sorrel
If you mean weapon aspects those donĀ“t really count (as cameos)
manic bobcat
And SGG also said they don't focus on giving everyone representation in the game, just those who make sense fpr the story.
gaunt sorrel
Can you mod Hades?
gaunt sorrel
But it isnĀ“t offically supported right?
manic bobcat
No, unfortunately.
earnest dirge
@manic bobcat cant play as zelda in legend of zelda.. soo
granite ether
wait so zelda isn't the person in the green tunic š
gaunt sorrel
Zelda is the ninja
gaunt sorrel
The green tunic one is link
granite ether
I know Fenris 
hushed pumice
Hey, I was wondering if Maim doing 300 damage on max level is a bug or what
That's what I get for using it on Skelly to test
hushed pumice
Yes, that's what I'm thinking. Is the floating number ever faulty?
Or maybe the damage just stays on 300 on levels 4 and 5 which is plain bugged
rustic valve
Not afaik. Probably best to ask in the tech support channel / use F10 if you're on PC.
hushed pumice
Okay
granite ether
use F10 in game to report the bug
hushed pumice
Alright, will do.
granite ether
ty 
thorny crescent
Ngl Iām getting real bored of this game
I kinda already completed the main storylines and the epilogue
And I donāt feel like doing heat
Like thereās no way Iām gonna go above 32 heat thatās just not happening
32 was painful enough
granite ether
every game has a point where you move on to something else
hushed pumice
Seems like you've had your fill then, for now
thorny crescent
Also can I just say that people who put ā!ā in front of their name to appear on top were probably bullied at school and are now seeking attention online
rustic valve
You can, but it says rather more about you than them, I think.
Having a bad day?
thorny crescent
Kinda
rustic valve
wanna talk?
thorny crescent
not really
thorny crescent
Iāll be fine thanks though
tame plaza
Meg is truly underrated waifu
keen scaffold
I found a new god lol
granite ether
You know who's truely underated...bouldy 
rustic valve
That should probably go in #self-promotion...
thorny crescent
You know who's truely underated...bouldy <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
all fax no printer
keen scaffold
Also can I just say that people who put ā!ā in front of their name to appear on ...
truthfully agreed
granite ether
Yo @keen scaffold the link you posted above (now deleted) is more appropriate for the #self-promotion channel ^_^
brisk trail
Like thereās no way Iām gonna go above 32 heat thatās just not happening
bro i feel this
10 failed 40 attempts so far
on my best weapon
more failures to come probably. after i get through my finals
brisk trail
pain
nocturne ginkgo
I just had a fun stream going through hell mode if anyone in here dropped in thank you!
thorny crescent
there aren't any voice channels here pal
nocturne ginkgo
I know? I posted in self promotion and streamed for over an hour it stands to reason some of the viewers I got were from here
so if they were I was just saying thanks
slim grail
And SGG also said they don't focus on giving everyone representation in the game...
in that case, they should put perseus. Not that im complaining btw, just a thought. since medusa is in the game
cloud hedge
does anybody know what the swift strike boon from hermes affects on exagryph's hidden aspect?
burnt breach
does anybody know what the swift strike boon from hermes affects on exagryph's h...
just like all the other weapons, it affects attack speed
stable thistle
I finally got to play Hades some more yesterday
burnt breach
Anyone got some quality of life suggestion? Currently I've implemented the following in my mod :
-Add boon list to the hammer
-Display incompatibilities in the boon list
-Add pom icon to level-able boons (boon tray, boon list and boon selection)
-Permanent chamber counter
-No Nourished Soul with LC4
red basalt
I didnt know the hermes boon could give more than 1 extra dash
rapid forum
if you're lucky
rustic valve
up to 3, I think
rapid forum
you can get 3
red basalt
I just found one that gives me 3 dashes
rapid forum
imagine hidden fist + greatest reflex + 2 dash
rustic valve
If you don't need the pom porridge, but want f.ex. the extra dashes and get Eurydice early, getting her rarity upgrade is nice
red basalt
i have the gun weapon and this empties the whole mag just with dash attacks is quite good
yeah i got it thanks to Eurydice i think
remote schooner
imagine hidden fist + greatest reflex + 2 dash
Just got that combo last run, best part was chaining it with speed buff and speed increases damage
Only wish I was using shield
rapid forum
but why use shield when you can have an unbearable weapon?
haaaaaaaaaaaa
I'll see myself out
plucky crag
i lost a really good round cuz i stole charons money with out knowing that he would kill me
and i only have one death defy
remote anchor
"I died because I didn't know" Welcome to roguelites
Although the "borrow" should have given it away
runic laurel
Hi everyone , Love the game play at least couple of runs a day , Just one question/problem , After The latest patch i see gods being pushed to me which i dont want , for example i avoided athena , dimitr for my ares , artemis ,cast build , but game pretty much rolled me athena and aphrodite in last stage shop and statyr rooms , Before the latest patch i would certainly get god whose boons i had most , but now its very difficult to get lengendary and duo also Is this something everyone see
tight agate
any idea why I can't post images
paper sorrel
Hi everyone , Love the game play at least couple of runs a day , Just one questi...
Ain't it supposed to be random?
tight agate
what happens if I quit at the end (||final boat ride with persephone||
same as always righrt
pine tendon
plls help
i have 200 hours in this game but
orpheus is gone and dont come home i just got his quest
play the lyre
80 run in a row he missing
rustic valve
Play the lyre more
eventually you'll start sounding better
that'll improve the priority, and he'll come back eventually
red basalt
just got extra 4 dashes boon lol
rustic valve
Hi everyone , Love the game play at least couple of runs a day , Just one questi...
That's just unfortunate bad luck. The gods you get are random, but if you want to avoid gods, the best thing to do is get 4 gods asap, because they you won't see any others (apart from Hermes) anymore.
The game has a god pool per run, which is 4 gods + chaos/hermes/hammers
So if you have fewer than 4 gods, the game will keep showing you others.
zinc spade
you can force a single god using its keepsake
But then I wouldnt, rather have the KS from Charon and have my items last forever.
Athena is top tier though
floral hazel
I beat hades without using a single death defiance Iām proud of myself
buoyant hound
are the devs gonna add more gods? iām surprised there isnāt apollo, as heās mentioned in dialogue
regal fractal
i had to stop playing Hades for a week cause my right hand cramped up from too much play. This has been a hard week.
high island
There are no plans to add more gods or anything like that. They're only doing minor balance changes and bug fixes and stuff at this point to round up the 1.0 patch release.
Now that Early Access is over, what's next?
Once we're sure our v1.0 launch has settled, our small team will be taking a break to recharge, and plan what's next. We'll be excited to say more about what's in store for us just as soon as we're ready.
rustic valve
Is there a way we can have a more visible FAQ? Because that keeps coming up over and over ^^
unkempt finch
is it possible to get 2 duo boons in one run ?
rustic valve
you can force a single god using its keepsake
Indeed you can force gods through the keepsakes, but then you still have the 4 god pool. If that's already full, it will replace one.
rustic valve
is it possible to get 2 duo boons in one run ?
Yep, no limits on duos.
My personal record was... 3 duos, iirc.
or 4? š¤
green maple
i have something to ask uhhh
thorny crescent
I think 4 is the limit
green maple
so about dio + arty
thorny crescent
Iāve never gotten more than 4
green maple
can they also effect attacks that do not have critical effects on them?
thorny crescent
wdym
green maple
arty and dio's duo
they give "bonus" crit chance
idk if they can also deal attacks that have hangover, not crit chances
thorny crescent
Hangover afflicted foes have a higher chance to take critical damage
thatās all it does
unkempt finch
lol i just finished the story... but how, i always thought the story in hades is kinda random O.o
unkempt finch
but
thorny crescent
Nice spoilers
thorny crescent
But yeah youāre not even close to finishing it
Thereās more story stuff to do
thick swallow
I mean, if you hit credits you can say youāre ādoneā but thereās definitely plenty more left
opaque heron
If youāve done some of the sidequests, Iād say youāre probably about halfway?
thorny crescent
Fair enough
unkempt finch
|| just had an super op cast build and than the hades fight got skipped q.q ||
thorny crescent
Iād say youāre 100% done when completed all the side stories and got the epilogue
Heat doesnāt matter like at all
And Iād say high heat just makes the game worse
So yeah
I stuck to the side stories part
opaque nexus
And Iād say high heat just makes the game worse
Kind of...
tacit ember
lmao imagin being cringe
ripe herald
I beat EM4 ||dad|| by alcohol poisoning
stone pebble
Dude, game awards are tomorrow :0
brisk trail
indubitably
thorny crescent
I bet ghost of Tsushima or tlou2 will win
Iād want doom eternal to win tbh
In a perfect world it would
slim grail
I better complete this game before i buy cyberpunk
tulip stone
Hades won critic's choice at The Golden Joysticks and critics contribute to 90% of the vote for TGA
so it's within the realm of possibility