which is why you just need mirrors and you are basically invincible
#h1-discussion
tacit ember
i dont finde cerberus to be amasing
thorny crescent
Still overpowered
tacit ember
i mean hes cute
distant night
cerbersus?
thorny crescent
I,too,love Cerbersus
tacit ember
but story wise cerbersus is not great
quiet gull
Hey, now. I didnt even swear! It was the name of the monster!
olive wind
yes he's the goodest boy i pet him after every run if hes there
brisk trail
Which diamond Underworld Renovations do you find most helpful?
distant night
goodest boi: cerberus
best gorgon: dusa
shadebro : shadebro
quiet gull
Which diamond Underworld Renovations do you find most helpful?
Get the fountains and their upgrades first
thorny crescent
Power ups with nectar
tacit ember
keys
quiet gull
Then the Gold Urns
thorny crescent
goodest boi: cerberus
best gorgon: dusa
shadebro : shadebro
Hotel Trivago
tacit ember
or darknes +5 max health is nice
fluid pivot
tips vs thessius and the other one togheter?
distant night
Hotel Trivago
everything you say is perfect stop tht
brisk trail
I can't decide. I only have 5 diamonds.
brisk trail
tips vs thessius and the other one togheter?
Go for Asterius first.
fluid pivot
okay
olive wind
if you've never clapped when your fave got on the best worker board thing, are you a real fan
quiet gull
tips vs thessius and the other one togheter?
Take out the Minotaur first, always be mindful of where Theseus is and put a pillar in between you
brisk trail
Don't get Theseus to half health until the minotaur is dead because he'll start doing some crazy stuff.
brisk trail
thorny crescent
don’t get too close
brisk trail
What are you trying to say???
distant night
everybody is talking about dusa having the balls but SHADEBRO has the monsterballs of sitting FRONT AND CENTER every single fight cheering for you even tho everybody else cheers for theseus with a whole banner to show his love, they even changed their shade-color
quiet gull
Theseus will always walk away from you after spinning or chucking his spear
thorny crescent
But stay on the offence by backstabbing him
brisk trail
What is happening??
tacit ember
if u luse to heros
olive wind
oh THATS what you meant by shadebro
tacit ember
shadebro is gonna get bullyed
quiet gull
everybody is talking about dusa having the balls but SHADEBRO has the monsterbal...
I mean, what are they gonna do, kill him?
fluid pivot
god dammit
thorny crescent
everybody is talking about dusa having the balls but SHADEBRO has the monsterbal...
He’s such a cinnamon roll bro
tacit ember
if u win he can bully everyone els
fluid pivot
havent been able to pass thessius part
thorny crescent
Backstabs are the way
brisk trail
Which diamond Underworld Renovations do you find most helpful?
for the upgraded contractor table, fated keys and vintage nectar are the best to go for first imo
thorny crescent
Also keep in mind that dashes give you i-frames
tacit ember
people here: *sayes lats o spoilers
thorny crescent
and you can dash pretty much through any of their attacks
distant night
I mean, what are they gonna do, kill him?
bully them whenever you lose and whenever theseus needs to recover from one of his fights against zag and just decimats everybody else
tacit ember
someone: i havent beaten heros
thorny crescent
Shush
olive wind
honestly i never really used a strategy. i just dash around and pray
tacit ember
actualy i dont like theseus
thorny crescent
I kinda came up with a strategy
tacit ember
its like how bosses feel when u use shild
thorny crescent
And that is to stay on the offence by backstabbing
distant night
my strategy is to stuff a sock into theseus mouth and instantly remove him from the field so even if i die it's not anyhow raising his ego
thorny crescent
The easiest way
tacit ember
but he can attack and block now thats op
brisk trail
What do y'all think is the best Aspect for Spear?
distant night
achilles
tacit ember
he would be invincible if he didn't need to like back a way like a dunce
distant night
if you need spear, achilles, if you like spear, achilles
tacit ember
achilles is great with cast build
brisk trail
Lmao I like the spear. I like throwing it and the range the main attack has is nice.
tacit ember
||guan yu|| is good if ur good i gess
distant night
you will love entering rooms with achilles special's damage boost then :)
tacit ember
it big damage but smol health
brisk trail
Hades is my favorite spear aspect
tepid yacht
people here: *sayes lats o spoilers
yeah, let's be careful with spoilers here! please tag anything from the final boss beyond with spoiler tags or bring them to the appropriate spoiler-friendly channels
distant night
just say hidden spear if you wanna talk about it
tepid yacht
hidden aspects are spoilers too as an fyi
distant night
it's not tht hard
thorny crescent
It’s very beginner-friendly but once you realise that everything else has so many fun builds it becomes bland in comparison @brisk trail
fluid pivot
I suck balls at this game
brisk trail
spear has fun builds
distant night
^
tacit ember
im bad with spear
brisk trail
everything's got fun builds
tacit ember
my only clear was with achillys christal meme build
distant night
everything has their personal fun value for everybody
brisk trail
ye
distant night
i prefer spear over anything
thorny crescent
I suck balls at this game
As a person with over 50 wins: same
distant night
doesnt mean only spear is good tho
brisk trail
I play with god mode on and just build however I feel like, never really looked into builds.
tacit ember
i feel spear is low damage?
distant night
I suck balls at this game
with 200+h = same
tacit ember
or i can just be bad
distant night
you're just bad at leveling it them
brisk trail
I just like trying to figure out what works by myself lmao
spear does have p low damage, which is why I like hades aspect so much
olive wind
As a person with over 50 wins: same
as someone who's at like 50-ish attempts and hasnt gotten past the final? same
distant night
i can get the final boss down in less than a minute with the appropriate spear build
brisk trail
Achilles the character slipped in there idk why
thorny crescent
i can get the final boss down in less than a minute with the appropriate spear b...
Literally every build ever
tacit ember
i can get the final boss down in less than a minute with the appropriate spear b...
eris still faster
distant night
Literally every build ever
exctlyyyyyy
thorny crescent
Any good build melts the bosses
distant night
just saying that spear has those too despite the low starting damage
distant night
eris still faster
not really in the right hands anything can be faster than eris :D
just really depends on your playstyle
thorny crescent
Bruh exagryph has the lowest starting damage but it can just insane
tepid yacht
(hidden aspects are spoilers!)
distant night
exactly
tacit ember
eris: chit with special does 8000 damage
tacit ember
yes
distant night
and base eris?
tacit ember
preashur points
thorny crescent
(hidden aspects are spoilers!)
But nobody mentioned a secret aspect yet...?
distant night
10 attack and 50 speciaö
tepid yacht
y'all, please tag your spoilers when talking about the hidden aspects or bring the conversation to #h1-builds-and-combat
distant night
it's worse than sword 😂
fluid pivot
when to go for the charon dude?
distant night
wait who mentioned the secret aspect litvac?
olive wind
speciaö
thorny crescent
when to go for the charon dude?
when you feel like it
tacit ember
when to go for the charon dude?
prob befor boss
distant night
...
tacit ember
åäö
distant night
sorry 2?
thorny crescent
Lol don’t worry about it
olive wind
yeah dw, you're fine
distant night
oh lol just in the beginning about hidden spear but now we're on speedrunner complaints :)
thorny crescent
we are kinda talking about spoilers to be fair
tacit ember
öäåöåöåääööäöäåääö
thorny crescent
Kinda but not really
distant night
anyways if you look at the speedrunning board before eris just jumped the board: achilles was loved amongst the speedrunners
achilles, eris, hidden shield
olive wind
i don't really speedrun tbh. partially cuz i havent gotten past the final boss yet but i've also never gotten the appeal
thorny crescent
Same I don’t go for speedy runs
tacit ember
is hidden shild good?
olive wind
aside from a sense of accomplishment of course which i always enjoy
thorny crescent
I go for fun runs
distant night
yes
distant night
it is slow but mighty
tacit ember
kinda cast
distant night
||casts are in bullrush yes||
tacit ember
yes
distant night
just being safe for litvac lol
tacit ember
what is good build then
distant night
anything
tacit ember
what cast good
thorny crescent
anything
distant night
anything
tacit ember
what happens to demiter cast
thorny crescent
any cast can be good if you play it smart
tacit ember
what do the crystals become
thorny crescent
Anything you want
distant night
😂
olive wind
chris
thorny crescent
WHAT
tacit ember
huat
thorny crescent
how
distant night
now i am happy
tacit ember
bruh
distant night
you said "anything you want" dio 😂
thorny crescent
Demeter’s cast just turns into a huge cat
tacit ember
distant night
lemme abuse the moments when your comments are gold <3
thorny crescent
and destroys everything on screen
tacit ember
Demeter’s cast just turns into a huge cat
that would be sick
distant night
||like em4 cerberus||
tacit ember
yes i was gonna say that
thorny crescent
||like em4 cerberus||
If only you could have THAT as a summon
distant night
OMG YAAAAAAAS
distant night
but i think there arent many cats in greek mythology
thorny crescent
My fav summon is prob ||Thanatos||
distant night
slow but mighty
distant night
||battie|| is also good for mini bosses and does insane damage
olive wind
what if u could romance cerberus
olive wind
same hat
brisk trail
same hat
tacit ember
same hat
distant night
what if u could romance cerberus
somebody yells in the back: ||b|| ||e|| ||a|| ||s|| ||t|| ||i|| ||a|| ||l|| ||i|| ||t|| ||y||
thorny crescent
Don’t you dare
distant night
unspoiler the letters
olive wind
distant night
i dare you
thorny crescent
I did
thorny crescent
Go to your room
distant night
i am in it
thorny crescent
And think about what you’ve done
thorny crescent
i am in it
Well GOOD
distant night
just chillig until erik just comes and destroys everything
who the absolute fudge would suggest that???
thorny crescent
Who the hell is Erik
distant night
idk, a gif sending troll who dun like spoilering spoilers or grammar
tacit ember
a person i sweden
brisk trail
this dude posting liveleak type stuff bruh
distant night
"person i sweden" kill me dio plz
thorny crescent
idk, a gif sending troll who dun like spoilering spoilers or grammar
Kinda fax tbh
distant night
straight and gay fax
thorny crescent
we love the lgbt community
distant night
thank you <3
thorny crescent
We accept all kinds of fax
distant night
yes
tacit ember
huat is a fax
thorny crescent
both straight and gay
olive wind
and also bi fax. we dont judge here
distant night
especially the rose scented fax
brisk trail
all fax no printer 💯
tacit ember
olive wind
trash??
thorny crescent
Those are fine too
distant night
we all trash
thorny crescent
I messed up
distant night
hades trash
brisk trail
gaydes...
thorny crescent
Hades is def straight
distant night
TAKE MY NECTAR
thorny crescent
Zagreus is very gay
olive wind
ye
brisk trail
love that for him
thorny crescent
Zagreus is very gay
just like all of us
thorny crescent
Hades players will be associated with the big gay energy just like JoJo fans I feel like
distant night
representation brothers
brisk trail
in a game with romance options, a pan protag is def the way to go
distant night
yes ;-;
brisk trail
part 4 is my fav
olive wind
...meg
brisk trail
than or zag
distant night
THANOS
thorny crescent
LMAO THANOS
olive wind
HTANOS?????
distant night
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
thorny crescent
NEXT UPDATE BE LIKE
brisk trail
T
HANOS
distant night
OMG THE AVENGERS MULTIVERSE MEETS OLYMPIANS
olive wind
WATCH IT BE LISTED AS COMMUNITY RECOMMENDED
thorny crescent
The Olympians are gonna destroy those plebs
olive wind
thanos appears and snaps everyone in the room to high heaven
thorny crescent
Wait but Thor is an avenger...
And he’s the god of lightning
But Zeus is also the god of lightning
brisk trail
zag shows up at the end of endgame with cluster rocket Eris and just evaporates thanos
thorny crescent
zag shows up at the end of endgame with cluster rocket Eris and just evaporates ...
I’ll give you one better,he does a cast build and just makes everyone drunk with trippy shot
tacit ember
what about achillys
tacit ember
and patroclus
thorny crescent
While using a steering wheel
olive wind
zeus shows up in front of thor like "are we gonna have a problem"
thorny crescent
zeus shows up in front of thor like "are we gonna have a problem"
To be fair Zeus is probably much scarier
distant night
imagine zag destroying the whole s.h.i.e.l.d.s crew with a PLUSHIE ||battie or mort||
olive wind
To be fair Zeus is probably much scarier
ye
thorny crescent
He’s the cause of 90% of the problems in Greek mythology
distant night
He’s the cause of 90% of the problems in Greek mythology
who, zeus?
thorny crescent
Yes
olive wind
he just shows up with a damn plushie an d everyone pesters him about it then eventually he just ||summons people with it||
olive wind
no yeah i think it was chronos
distant night
if we go way back the only really good godly being is galtea/gaia
distant night
zeus = dun like humans (except for to lay with them)
distant night
Chronos ate his children
because of a prophecy
thorny crescent
Imagine your wife giving birth to the literal god of the sea and deciding to eat it
distant night
poseidon wasnt born as god of the sea
tacit ember
aparently gods dont have stomach
thorny crescent
I know
distant night
he became it after zeus smacked chronos
tacit ember
because the children were alive
thorny crescent
I know
distant night
titans = huge
olive wind
yeah they cast lots or w/e
distant night
stomach of titan = whole stadium
olive wind
they could just adopt
thorny crescent
And then after Zeus smacked Chronos with the help of the one eyed ugly dudes and some buff boys humanity was created
Goddamn the people writing those mythos were drunk
distant night
why he have children if he no want prophesy to come tru
cause they wanna frick but have no contraception
tacit ember
also stomach: acidic
distant night
also stomach: acidic
they are gods....
thorny crescent
That’s
olive wind
cause they wanna frick but have no contraception
are you implying that the gods don't know how the pregananant happens
distant night
gods dont use magic like in harry potter
tacit ember
zag: is a god
also zag: steps on hot rocks dies
olive wind
distant night
are you implying that the gods don't know how the pregananant happens
they do know but in ancient greece/rome they thought to not have baby you have to do a headstand and shake your bowels.
thorny crescent
Gods can die plot twist
ornate solstice
zag: is a god
also zag: steps on hot rocks dies
"why is it spicy"
olive wind
they do know but in ancient greece/rome they thought to not have baby you have t...
th
they wh
thorny crescent
they do know but in ancient greece/rome they thought to not have baby you have t...
Seems legit
distant night
when i read about it i was disgusted
olive wind
tacit ember
wouldnt that make having a baby easyer
thorny crescent
they do know but in ancient greece/rome they thought to not have baby you have t...
If I ever become virgin’t I’m gonna do the same
distant night
imagine hiring somebody to warm your bed and after the warming they just do a headstand and shake their pelvis like crazy
distant night
If I ever become virgin’t I’m gonna do the same
wait what
omg i didnt see the 't 😂
olive wind
become virgin
thorny crescent
Wait dudes can’t have babies
distant night
"if i ever become virgin" 😂
thorny crescent
If I ever reverse that process
thorny crescent
That’s an ability I kinda wanna have
distant night
same :c
distant night
do you mean superglue?
thorny crescent
Lmao
distant night
you cant even unmix colors
thorny crescent
Garbage quality,get outta here
void vigil
hey, just a reminder to keep it clean here
thorny crescent
Thanatos = cute
distant night
agree
thorny crescent
There
distant night
whoever doesnt agree makes me sad
thorny crescent
People who like Thanatos : a 400 word essay explaining why he’s good
People who like Hypnos: I just think he’s neat
distant night
hypnos is a weird character
tacit ember
you cant even unmix colors
yes u can
distant night
"what if you DONT stand on lava"
thorny crescent
“Just don’t die lmao loser”
distant night
lmaooooooo
distant night
it's a different kind of pain to get called loser by hypnos than getting called loser by theseus
tacit ember
and the colors arnt nesisarily tuching
distant night
u can with in starch
still proven impossible if you mix enough times
thorny crescent
it's a different kind of pain to get called loser by hypnos than getting called ...
True
tacit ember
but u can still unmix
distant night
getting called loser by ||hades|| is just ;-; i trIED BIT-
distant night
but u can still unmix
uhm no?
thorny crescent
I like Hypnos,because after a run where I screamed my lungs out because of how angry I was, I get to hear this dum-dum’s witty comments
distant night
but u can still unmix
watch the action lab's video on it if you really think it's 100% possible
weirdly enough he just doesnt appear to me anymore to leave comments
thorny crescent
Yeah same :(
distant night
the double defeat of both having lost AND not seeing hypnos to make fun of it...
thorny crescent
that’s what depression feels like
distant night
worse than dying on 1/5 HP endboss on ||second stage|| :cccc
thorny crescent
as a person who’s gone through clinical depression,I can confirm that what I said is true
distant night
yeah
thorny crescent
worse than dying on 1/5 HP endboss on ||second stage|| :cccc
||EM4 be like||
distant night
||em4 is fun tho||
distant night
cause you really know it's not you who just sucks
the fight is legitemately hard even with the safest build
thorny crescent
Exactly
distant night
||when i first saw him regen health|| my whole life just stopped before my eyes
thorny crescent
||EM4|| is just: you’ve had your fun,now the game is over,bye bye, I win,see ya next time,LOSER
shell spade
hypnos moment: "lmao you got killed by a tiny rat"
distant night
:CCCCCCC
thorny crescent
hypnos moment: "lmao you got killed by a tiny rat"
Hypnos moment should be a meme
distant night
||tiny vermin|| is a bossfight worth scared about
thorny crescent
it’s like a bruh moment but for Hades
shell spade
"if you see natural causes again give 'em hell for me"
thorny crescent
||Extreme measures 5: Beating Natural Causes once and for all||
shell spade
"it says here you got killed by redacted" what is this, the scp foundation
distant night
||Extreme measures 5: Beating Natural Causes once and for all||
so zeus?
zeus and demeter basically
thorny crescent
Okay that actually sounds kinda cool
distant night
yes :o
thorny crescent
I would want that
imagine fighting an actual Olympian god as like an optional boss or something
That’d be sick
shell spade
||EM5 requires you to beat persephone 
||
distant night
and after that ||you actually get to un-ice the arena where you fight hades and you get to go to moma's hut||
distant night
||EM5 requires you to beat persephone <:cryin:600890694176866340> ||
why would ||mom|| want to fight you
shell spade
good question
distant night
||granny|| is more realistic
thorny crescent
||EM5 requires you to beat persephone <:cryin:600890694176866340> ||
||you’ve had your fun my son,but now it is time for me to show you the true definition of suffering||
distant night
she is legit pissed 😂
thorny crescent
To be fair a Demeter boss fight would be so dope
She’s like the one god who has so much potential to be a boss
distant night
||you’ve had your fun my son,but now it is time for me to show you the true defi...
q-q ||oh you thought just hades is trying to hinder shades from escaping? I AINT THE GODESS OF THE DEAD FOR NOTHING||
distant night
She’s like the one god who has so much potential to be a boss
especially with her being the godess of the 4 seasons, she'd have insane stages
tacit ember
hello person that think i left because u sayed something
thorny crescent
||She says as she beats the sh*t out of you with heckin veggies||
tacit ember
im back now
distant night
||She says as she beats the sh*t out of you with heckin veggies||
||HECKING VEGGIES||
||SHE JUST THROWS POM GRANADES ON YOUR BUTT||
thorny crescent
||SHE JUST THROWS POM GRANADES ON YOUR BUTT||
CUCUMBER STORM,POW POW POW
brisk trail
Grandma got hands
thorny crescent
She just uses a giant baguette as a bat or something
distant night
||and since cerberus preferes her she doesnt need to summon him like em4 hades, he can casually roll into the arena while you struggle fighting mom||
em6: ||you fight nyx||
thorny crescent
Lowkey sounds like an awesome boss idea
distant night
everything sounds like an awesome boss idea
the game is just expandable beyond recon
thorny crescent
Like how cool would it be if you could take an alternative path and go against Olympians
distant night
dlc 300: you can date shadebro
thorny crescent
And get boons from the house servants instead
tacit ember
em6: ||you fight nyx||
what is em5 then
distant night
imagine that one day instead of offering boons they only offer curses cause they are sick of you
distant night
what is em5 then
||fight against mom||
tacit ember
||mom>nyx||
thorny crescent
ok but now I actually want that
distant night
||nyx = mom2|| :c
tacit ember
whos ||mom3||
distant night
are two ||moms|| not enough?
thorny crescent
||Demeter?||
tacit ember
are two ||moms|| not enough?
no
distant night
||demeter is granny||
tacit ember
shes grandma
thorny crescent
She’s the mother of all creation so it’s close enough
tacit ember
chaos
distant night
?
tacit ember
is mom 3
distant night
do you mean gaia?
distant night
yeah gaia
tacit ember
because powers of cryation and all that
thorny crescent
She’s sometimes called the mother of all creation
distant night
cryation = you cry and create?
tacit ember
gaia is goddes of earth
thorny crescent
it’s when you’re depressed but assignments kick in
tacit ember
ahha mother of all life
distant night
depressed arts and crafts 😂
gaia is mother of earth = all life
demeter is mother to all life in crops form
tacit ember
bruh dont discriminate aliens
distant night
gods are literal aliens
thorny crescent
What if the Olympians actually existed but just flew away to someplace better
distant night
https://tenor.com/view/aliens-dancing-dance-gif-11913373
probablly apollo when waking up
thorny crescent
Knowing their temper
distant night
What if the Olympians actually existed but just flew away to someplace better
yeah after people werent scared of pandora's curses they were like "well sucks to be you anyways, wanna go to the galaxy next over?"
thorny crescent
yeah after people werent scared of pandora's curses they were like "well sucks t...
And then they lived happily ever after
distant night
the end? :c
thorny crescent
Man now I want Hades to have alternative paths or something
With alternative bosses
distant night
honestly i wanna get into hades modding
thorny crescent
that’d be so damn cool
thorny crescent
honestly i wanna get into hades modding
Same
I want a mod where everyone uses streamer lingo
distant night
out of all the games hades is the game that is actually expandable to the gods
distant night
I want a mod where everyone uses streamer lingo
SDIHÖAOKDSLAÖ
thorny crescent
“Ahoy,my little pogchamp!”
distant night
my little pog
distant night
hades just moves with them
distant night
he isnt stuck in the literal ground
thorny crescent
He can leave if he wanted to
tacit ember
ok i gess
distant night
hades (the area) is as little earthbound as gods themselves
thorny crescent
He’s just a good responsible man
thorny crescent
Hades was actually a pretty nice person in the mythos
tacit ember
this is what i imaged it would be like
thorny crescent
Idk why they made him evil
distant night
that reminds me, the whole surrounding of "hades" (the place) doesnt exist irl
thorny crescent
In the game I mean
thorny crescent
he just does his job
distant night
exactly
thorny crescent
He was like the only god who didn’t cheat on his wife
distant night
and he actually ||starts enjoying your fights out on the glade||
distant night
yes
tacit ember
what is "the glade"
distant night
||the arena you fight the end boss in||
tacit ember
is that called the glade
distant night
i call it the glade since in mythology there is an important glade before the gates of hades (the place)
tacit ember
is the temple of styx a real thing in mythology though
distant night
there isnt really a "temple" per say...
it's just like a haven by styx that the deads enter
tacit ember
is styx a god or someting?
tacit ember
yes i know the river styx
distant night
there they get carried by charon into the first stage of hades where they either lose bad that still bounds them to life (like sickness) or they get judged and sent to one of the punishing rivers
tacit ember
yes
distant night
yes i know the river styx
so why do you ask 🤔
tacit ember
but what do you mean by "a haven by styx"
tacit ember
good job
fluid pivot
||I just got the fishing rod, will I know if there is a location I can fish in?||
distant night
||I just got the fishing rod, will I know if there is a location I can fish in?|...
||yes there will be something sparkly in the water and when all enemies are done with a sound queue will also happen||
fluid pivot
thank you sir
distant night
*ma'am ;-;
fluid pivot
thank you ma'am
fluid pivot
my appoligies
Does the fated list gets randomed every now and then or is tehre a set amount you can get?
distant night
thanks for correcting it swiftly
brisk trail
there's a set amount of prophecies, but you do unlock more as you progress
hardy atlas
when was ||hades ||keepsake added
it was 1.0 release yes
brisk trail
idk if there's a sir/ma'am equivalent for a nb person like me lol
tacit ember
go to hades for new players
u can see in the screen shot he no has slot for hades keepsake
here
look he has 24 insted of 25 keepsaks
glass sentinel
How do I know if a buff is additive or multiplicative?
brisk trail
he hasn't unlocked ||demeter|| yet
tacit ember
hades is a guy
brisk trail
read my message again
tacit ember
ahha i get what u mean
distant night
||Hades' favor involves getting Persephone to return to the House of Hades. The affinity gauge will be unlocked when Hades expresses his gratefulness for bringing her back. ||
thats when you get the ||hades|| keepsake
brisk trail
I might be wrong though
distant night
yes cause it's a secret
tacit ember
ahha
distant night
thats why i personally spoilered it
tacit ember
clearly im not noob as u can see
distant night
also i just checked on google that the keepsake was part of 1.0 idk if it get hidden back then or if anything else was with it but according to "hades 1.0 endgame" is was part of it
burnt breach
honestly i wanna get into hades modding
feel free to join the modding server
distant night
i'd love to but idk how helpful i'd be hah
fluid pivot
||im watching someone that is summoning skelly, how do I get that?||
brisk trail
give him a bunch of nectar
fluid pivot
kk
heavy fossil
seduce him with your nectar 
tacit ember
||im watching someone that is summoning skelly, how do I get that?||
||skelly is bad get meg||
fluid perch
Hades has some really good DLC possibilities.
shell spade
havent played any of them other than hades so i cant vote on something like that in good faith
shell spade
STOP THE COUNT!
swift ginkgo
Hello guys, it's probably been asked already one thousand time, but what are the plans for the future in terms of update and patches for the game? Any additional content that is planned? Thanks!
swift ginkgo
Ha ha, hollow Knight is a very good choice still
lucid cedar
is this a good place to ask for hyelp
brisk trail
Additional content -- none we know of.
lucid cedar
i just updated the game and now it refuses to launch
swift ginkgo
Anyway, I started the game ten days ago and i really love it
brisk trail
you should try #h1-tech-support
lucid cedar
ty
swift ginkgo
Additional content -- none we know of.
Thanks! I love your username
brisk trail
distant night
who doesnt love dio's thighs
swift ginkgo
For an alcoholic, party loving God, he really doesn't skip leg days
bronze owl
Hi guys
brisk trail
Ha ha, hollow Knight is a very good choice still
still cloud is better
well
seeing how it looks, it sucks
still i like cloud
pine relic
reef mango
Wont pierced butterfly/ meg keepsake rerolling for perfect rooms eventually be the best any%
carmine ravine
what
rustic valve
If you can essentially do an "Individual Room" speedrun, where you always get exactly the boon you need and do each room perfectly... probably.
But at that point you're pretty much cheating; far more than old IL speedruns, where you just add up the best time for each level.
rustic valve
In that case, no
because forcing a god you need will be much more useful than the butterfly
reef mango
But im saying butterfly and then getting rng luck with gods/ etc
Thats always gonna be better than a god start
rustic valve
Theoretically, perhaps. Practically, I doubt it.
If you did a TAS of Hades, you'd probably take the butterfly and like... sword 4, for max damage and get everything done perfectly.
But as long as humans play it, I doubt that butterfly will make a speedrunner faster by enough to matter over manipulating the RNG.
winter harbor
I'm not that good at the game but I thought butterfly encouraged slower, more thoughtful play
rustic valve
🤔 it probably does. But assuming completely perfect conditions, it might be the fastest keepsake because it can improve your damage - under these perfect conditions - by a lot.
Practically, I doubt you can get it to more than, oh, 20%? Which is nice, but not gonna make a big difference.
fleet nimbus
Agreed. To get the full benefit of broken butterfly you would have to play frame perfect
and in thi game, sometimes I don't know where my character is from all the shinny stuff
reef mango
Going for any% i see no reason not to aim for perfect but that just me
carmine ravine
pretty easy to play butterfly once you get the hang of it
reef mango
Someone will do it within next year i think
fleet nimbus
I just killed hades for the frist time using aspect of chaos, but it seems as though the shield, and divine dash may both be a bit of a crutch.
What's a better build than using aspect of chaos +aries?
I'm gonna put this question in the other topic
brisk trail
So if you select a 5th god, one god gets kicked out of your slots, right? Is there an order to it? Like it kicks out the first you got, then the second, etc.
short gate
I'm really curious if the team is moving to another project
pliant sparrow
im pretty sure you just have 5 gods in ur slots
pliant sparrow
if you get 4 in tart but bring a god keepsake for asphod
red tiger
Does anyone know what happens when you have a boon from every god by the time you get to theseus/asterius?
What does Theseus do for his power of gods attack then?
brisk trail
I'm not sure, but there was someone here who claimed Theseus called Poseidon while he had Poseidon's call
carmine ravine
Does anyone know what happens when you have a boon from every god by the time yo...
you wont
red tiger
hm its always done only a god I don't have for me
brisk trail
And Zag said "this is awkward" or smth like that
red tiger
I won't? Is it actually not possible?
brisk trail
Dunno how true it is
red tiger
I don't see how its impossible
winter harbor
(I know, I know, some people actually make it elysium on a new file)
brisk trail
you can get 4 in tart and then force 2 more in aspho and elysium
red tiger
huh
brisk trail
so still 2 left
waxen juniper
It's doubtful, but I wonder if they'll ever add new areas to the game
earnest dirge
can we get some form of twitch intergration where they pick boons/weapons etc
brisk trail
About house contractor:
||What happened to the 100 nectar upgrade? Though I saw it before patch, not after the patch finaly got 100 nectar but cant find the upgrade||
zenith crown
@brisk trail I'm struggling to understand what you're asking but I hope this helps.||When you purchase it the theme will be set to it. So in the list you'll only have the option to switch to default.||
brisk trail
Its not appearing for me anymore 😄 I have the nectar, but cant buy it anymore since its not appearing at contractor anymore
stone gulch
i managed to beat ||charon|| in tartarus! it only took all 3 of my death defiance charges lol
dry plover
I beat charon the first time i met him.. got lucky with athena dash block while using excalibur..
heavy fossil
I don't like fighting ||Charon||. He is big babi. 
stone gulch
@dry plover tag your spoilers bro
lavish skiff
i have a pomegranate irl, this is poggers
?
i dont understand why you reacted with that
lavish skiff
|| on either side
lavish skiff
indeed
molten nymph
i pretend its a bow
stone gulch
the hammer that lets you spin faster helps a ton
pliant sparrow
just heartrend special ig
deletes everything before the final boss, then u just die
green maple
huh
rare oasis
I need to say this to some human being out there who can appreciate the following: I beat Hades for the first time just now, one hit away from death.
green maple
deletes everything before the final boss, then u just die
yeah im just doing it for the prophecies thanks
rare oasis
What is a good clear time?
green maple
depends
molten nymph
i think a lot of people had their first clear in the 30-40 minute mark
ornate lantern
I need to say this to some human being out there who can appreciate the followin...
Been there too many times bro
I never look at my health bar especially when streaming for my friends and when I'm done with a tough boss encounter my friend would be like "Dude you're at 2 HP" and im like "wut"
rare obsidian
Bleh got too trigger happy on a ||surface|| fish :(
lament holly
hollow halo
sonic adventure 2 hero story dark story image macro with skelly and charon
iron arch
bro hades slapped
beat the story, ngl, worth every dollar
including all the time I had the game open on the main screen or paused cause I was doing something, took me 42.2 hours to beat the story, and since it was 20 dollars at the time I got it, that's a solid 2.1 hours of gameplay per dollar
can't forget my first run either, daedalus enchants on the bow so I fired more shots for special and could charge it up, had demeter's special boosting damage too
got out in 27 minutes
next sphinx
I love the feeling when you get into a groove and/or find a really good build for a weapon you didn’t like before, it’s the best
iron arch
that was me as soon as I got the right daedalus enchant on the shield with dionysus's hangover passive applying on shield hit and the daedalus enchant making it faster and strike 7 targets
shield special'
next sphinx
That DOES sound amazing! I hated the shield at first and I definitely love it now
iron arch
yeah it's great, loved the ability to tank shots with the charge attack
gotta say weapon I don't like the most has to be the railgun
manually reload is so painful for me
bow is number one, of course, with sword, gloves, spear, and shield being up next
pliant sparrow
It would be nice to have an actual charge up railgun as an aspect for the railgun
next sphinx
Yeah reloading not my favourite, Chiron bow is but I’m definitely warming up to Rama - I had a wonderful run yesterday where I had an 80% attack boost from Chaos with Artemis Dash strike and stacking doom damage with Dire Misfortune on special, so good
iron arch
I don't use the aspects, like, at all, excluding a few, which I think are cool
the spin-disk shield is cool to me, but the bow aspects seem kinda interesting, don't like the bloodshot aspect though
pliant sparrow
Whut u only use zag aspects?
iron arch
yea, pure zag
beat whole story without aspects
used more heat on every escape attempt too
next sphinx
Zag aspects can be really good! Nothing wrong with that, although I bet you’d be pleasantly surprised if you branched out a bit - changing up my play styles between runs helps keep me coming back to the game even more than I would otherwise
iron arch
I unlocked all of em it's just, reading what they do just doesn't seem to click for me
brisk trail
I always recommend firsthand experience.
molten nymph
some aspects only really start going with more investment
iron arch
like I know what they do by reading, but it just doesn't seem to be good, except for the bow aspect
molten nymph
chiron is a big example
iron arch
that one with homing specials
next sphinx
True, some of them only make big differences when they’re fully invested
slim grail
used more heat on every escape attempt too
i noticed when i use heat, i keep dying 😦 the only heat i use is the one where the enemy hp bar turns blue
i think that's the easiest heat i can complete the level on
iron arch
I do recommend the new tactics for bosses one, and timer decrease one too
new tactics for bosses 1 and 2 seem easy enough to me at least, and timer decrease from infinite time per level to 9 minutes per level works wonders
slim grail
I do recommend the new tactics for bosses one, and timer decrease one too
but what happens when you didnt do it under 9 mins?
iron arch
especially since it adds up the total timer, so since I clear floors 1 and 2 in under 9 minutes total, I have a spare 18 minutes to use on the remaining 2
molten nymph
you get health drained
brisk trail
You start taking a tick of damage per second.
iron arch
yeah you get health drained til you finish
brisk trail
It can kill you.
iron arch
hasn't happened to me yet, cause I usually finish each floor in ~4-5 minutes
slim grail
what the.. no way. im not choosing that LOL
molten nymph
its 9 min per zone, and extra time gets added in the next zone
brisk trail
It mostly only shows up in very high Heat runs.
iron arch
it's still 9 minutes per floor, and it adds up over time
I mean, for me it's easy heat
slim grail
it's still 9 minutes per floor, and it adds up over time
oh it adds up the time??
iron arch
yes
molten nymph
ye
brisk trail
Yeah, so you've got 9 minutes to clear Tartarus, 18 for Asphodel, 27 for Elysium, and 36 total for the whole run.
slim grail
oh ok.. then i guess it should be ok
winter harbor
TD1 is practically free
brisk trail
Used to be per floor.
winter harbor
It adds leftover time from other biomes too
molten nymph
the hardest part is actually tartarus
iron arch
if you finish floor 1 in 4 minutes, you have the 5 minutes left + another 9 for the next floor, so 14 minutes, and if you finish floor 2 in 5 minutes, you get 9 left and 9 for the next floor for 18 on floor 3
molten nymph
if you can clear that with no problem then you should cruise through the rest
slim grail
this is good. because that minotaur and thesues fight really takes alot of time
iron arch
floor 3 in 8 minutes have 10 left and 9 more for last floor so 19 minutes
time usually for me looks like ~4, ~4, ~5/6, ~8
pliant sparrow
I did td3 at 32 heat that was fun
winter harbor
Yeah, just pick up a trash boon along the way and sell it
molten nymph
since a lot of the time you have that one boon that you just pick because the option is all bad
slim grail
good heat then. but i have a question for this heat... it is just for adding challenges right? because i see the reward doesnt improve
iron arch
yeah but that's wasting a boon ngl
winter harbor
You'll be surprised at how many practically useless to your build boons there are out there
iron arch
nah brad how adding heat works is you know how beating the game gives you a reward for each boss
pliant sparrow
Rewards reset
molten nymph
you need to beat the final boss for the heat level
iron arch
like blood, gem, ambrosia etc
if you add another heat, all those are given again when beating the boss instead of just dark essence
slim grail
oh ya it is about that. when i add the heat, they no longer gives out that blood, diamond etc
iron arch
aka meg drops blood again, snake drops gem, king jerk drops ambrosia, and man drops blood
slim grail
i mean it is still the same
iron arch
that means you've not added enough heat
slim grail
they claimed that i alrdy have those
molten nymph
you need to beat the final boss first
pliant sparrow
Not for 0 heat
slim grail
ohh.... i see
pliant sparrow
I think?
molten nymph
you can jump from 0 to 1 heat
but from there on you gotta beat the final boss to advance heat
molten nymph
ye
iron arch
yeah
you just add +1 heat to the weapon you beat the final boss with
and you can get all the rewards again
winter harbor
Up to a limit of 20 heat per weapon
slim grail
oh... oh no. im already struggling with all those tough heat challenges....
iron arch
yeah, after that it's just a challenge
winter harbor
You do get a prize for 32 heat from Skelly
but that's about it
And it doesn't affect gameplay
iron arch
what's the priiiiize
molten nymph
it affects the gameplay
iron arch
you've piqued my interest
slim grail
oh. i dont mind.. skelly is my fav npc in the whole game lol
his lore strangely intrigues me. i wanna know more about him
guess i have to beat the game again
rare obsidian
Stygian soul is very good with exit wounds and artemis legendary turns out
Artemis continues to prove that she is the best
remote schooner
Best way to get nector?
winter harbor
Just play more runs
brisk trail
Grind runs looking for Poseidon (can drop with Sunken Treasure) and Dionysus (guaranteed to drop one with Premium Vintage).
flat vapor
take troves too, small chance of a nectar drop
brave dove
is poseidon aspect rlly only good at maxed out
brisk trail
It's best maxed out but its base utility (knocking out Bloodstones) works at base.
brave dove
aight
faint flint
poseidon gets sick with exit wounds
celest cairn
Wasn't there a way to upgrade weapons before titans blood existed?
back in the beta
i thought it was with something else
silk cosmos
Hi guys I kind of found a "feature" which I think it could be used to speed a quest line of sorts, After dying to hades I went back to his house, like the good son I'm of course xD
However, I saw Hipnos talking to Meg, went there to check what they were talking about, after the diolog ended I had to go out, so I just close the game there, which I know I would have to read all that again, but I don't mind since I love the voice acting in this game.
But when I came back to the game, opened it up again, there was something new!
This time Meg was talking to ||Mom!|| and not Hipnos, so I tried to recreat what I did, but this time it always came back to meg and ||mom|| talking, maybe I leaft the game closed for to little, which could mena that the randomation of the game quests use some sort of "time correlation randomeness"
Well I thought it was cool to share this, since I didn't read about it in anywhere online!
pliant sparrow
i think its just random per load in
the game doesnt auto save after a dialogue, only when u enter a new room
silk cosmos
I thought so too, but after meg started talking to ||mom|| closing the game didn't change that, and have in mind I did not entered another room after their talk
I will do some more investigating, since this sound pretty cool, which could be used in speed runs maybe down the line
pliant sparrow
how does dialogue help with speedruns?
molten nymph
for RTA/fresh file i guess
silk cosmos
well you never know, in one of the zelda games, in low% people stare at link looking at a blue ruppe for more then 16 hours just to cross a wall xD
pliant sparrow
yah but u dont stop to talk to characters in rta or fresh file
silk cosmos
it depends if the "mechanic" helps you out or not, maybe rushing for a weapon or companion/doll can speed things up
anyways
you don't need to used, just thought it was cool xD
brave dove
||huh.. u cant summon skelly against charon...||
hexed sphinx
Hey guys, i'm playing for a while and currently on 43th run. Is it normal that I haven't unlocked Aid boons yet? Already beat the game. I'm confused.
brisk trail
The voice acting in this heckin game!....Q.q...so heckin good
Oh, that was I ran through too.
Took me a while to get them, but they come around eventually
hollow halo
theres a little exploit to give nectar
normally when in a paired convo u cant give nectar
go into room and come back and the chars will be separated
thorny shoal
Anyone got tips for how to get used to the grenade launcher and bow?
thorny shoal
Literally just picking up the damn thing
I always get close and personal but the bow throws me
brave dove
do u have titan blood yet?
thorny shoal
Yea but been saving it for aspect of arthur on the sword
brave dove
aspect of eris is good for rail
aspect of chiron is good for bow
azure edge
Talos and Demeter are both good fist options, if we're talking good aspects.
Chaos is a fantastic shield too, even after the nerfs.
dusky estuary
Fundamentally the bow is best with a bit of patience. Positioning yourself so you can make a shot the hits more than one enemy or just giving yourself enough time to charge the shot for max damage.
brave dove
||trying out bow 4 and holy its basically Melee but dealing LOADS of dmg||
unless ur using bow 4
then charge on in
dusky estuary
The base special is good for clearing many projectiles. And obviously it's very strong in Chiron.
I only completed one run with bow4 and havent gone back to it. It was fun though.
pliant sparrow
||trying out bow 4 and holy its basically Melee but dealing LOADS of dmg||
How is it melee it has a huge charge up animation and easily cancellable
So annoying to use for me
molten nymph
you move into melee range after the enemy attacked
sometimes forgoing powershot just to get a shot
though you really want to balance out going offensive and playing safe with it in my experience
radiant estuary
Also side note on that front, don't take explosive shot with bow 4 either
At that point it becomes so short-range that it starts becoming too dangerous to work with properly
molten nymph
with explosive shot its actually a melee weapon lmao
brave dove
yeah i chose explosive shot
i just dash up
and spam attack
holding it just long enough to hit the enemy
dishs out loads of dmg faster than power shot
mystic steeple
Hey guys
brave dove
how good is rail 4 btw
dusky estuary
Rail4 is a lot of setting up the special like mines. Or just Zeus attack go brrrr
thorny shoal
Rail 1 with zeus attack is amazing
dusky estuary
I had Athena attack in it out of curiosity and it was very interesting. Was almost like having shield.
brave dove
||died to Hades with rama bow :< wouldve won if i had 1 more DD,used up all my DD fighting Charon||
heavy fossil
carmine ravine
rhen dont do that
slim grail
i felt like i'm cheated using aphrodite calls. she's so op that i keep cheesing it by using her but... i need her help against tough bosses 😦
anyone have this dignity problem??
flat vapor
if it's an legit option given to you by the game, it's not cheating
besides, it's single-player lol
brave dove
triple shot
perfect shot
or repulse shot
on bow4?
winter harbor
Triple shot is good
flat vapor
perfect shot or triple shot
brave dove
aight
flat vapor
repulse is meme
winter harbor
Yeah, I kinda feel like I'm cheating when I'm using the ||companions||, even though it's a legitimate option
Because they get introduced so late
slim grail
Yeah, I kinda feel like I'm cheating when I'm using the ||companions||, even tho...
wait what?? companion? u mean like someone fight alongside with you???
that's new. I've completed the game thrice but i have none so far
winter harbor
Yeah, you summon someone to fight with you briefly
real edge
it is spoiler
slim grail
Yeah, you summon someone to fight with you briefly
wait a minute.. u mean thanatos? oh that was just a one time thing
i know that.
slim grail
it is spoiler
sorry i think thanatos isn't a spoiler
u got him really early in the game
real edge
Alright ||so you dont know what companions are||
slim grail
Alright ||so you dont know what companions are||
an npc fighting alongside with you.... right?
real edge
||Not really no||
slim grail
||Not really no||
u mean .. || someone actually literally fight with you throughout the underworld??? ||
real edge
no
slim grail
im so confused. nvm LOL
real edge
its ||more like a call that can be used a set amount of times||
winter harbor
You can get more via charon well
real edge
Mhmm
alpine fulcrum
||notable that its once per fight regardless of how many "charges" you have||
||unlike calls||
ive never tried ||hades call||, i probably should
real edge
its kinda meh
alpine fulcrum
bonus effect: smaller boon pool
remote schooner
Been grinding gems, than converting to keys. Than converting to nectar
alpine fulcrum
do "replacement" boons just come up with the same frequency that that boon would come up normally?
pliant sparrow
i wish there was a house contractor "||fish|| trophy display" purchase
and u could choose which ||fish|| to display
and it would display the number of catches per that ||fish|| if u examined it
brave dove
Best cast for poseidon sword?
rose nexus
i wish there was a house contractor "||fish|| trophy display" purchase
ive only caught ||one legendary fish|| , i dont know where the ||other 2 are||
pliant sparrow
theres one in every region, so 4 total
molten nymph
Best cast for poseidon sword?
vs boss: artemis, vs room: zeus
brave dove
aight
molten nymph
poseidon is a good middle ground tbh
rose nexus
theres one in every region, so 4 total
hmm i might have to check what i have again
molten nymph
plus you can get the poseidon-artemis duo
pliant sparrow
hmm i might have to check what i have again
there are 3 per region => 12 total
rose nexus
there are 3 per region => 12 total
...3 ||legendary fish ?||
idk how many are in my codex but it shows that im missing 2 fish even though ive only caught ||1 legendary one||
brave dove
oh damn cast build STRONK
pliant sparrow
idk how many are in my codex but it shows that im missing 2 fish even though ive...
||nvm there are 6 legendary fish||
alpine fulcrum
whats weird is how some of the sticking casts stick a lot easier than others
with some it seems like its easy to have them hit the enemy but not stick
which can be good or bad
but either way i dont fully understand the mechanics behind it
brave dove
which boon does dmg when the cast is dislodged btw
alpine fulcrum
exit wounds
rapid forum
Arty
alpine fulcrum
it seems like achilles aspect should theoretically blow poseidon out of hte water if you can get rapid reload or ||demeter|| cast with crystal clarity