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nope
understandable
would you take calculated risk or one extra defiance
most someone did was 57 right
I cant even get past megaera
pretty sure there are people trying to do it
any recommendations for weapon? I tried with bow the whole time but I die on the first boss
excuse me wut, normally when i use nemsis i have like 18 mins in temple of styx
sword 4 and i now have 20 mins left
uhhh idk ,chiron bow?
tbh just take your time, do some upgrade on the mirror
chiron bow is great
i got all upgrades full
well if bow isnt yours try shield or gun
CREDITS BABY
ooof
[EM 3 Spoiler] || https://imgur.com/a/ujsBP6t ||
in the boss chamber
every damn time
ofcourse when i reach temple of styx with 20 mins left more than before
the satyr sack is in the last room
i go to
Hey everyone! Go vote for Hades on the VideoGame Awards!
Check out the nominees for PLAYERโS VOICE at TheGameAwards.com. Who will you vote for? #TheGameAwards @TheGameAwards
are you kidding me TLOU2 has the most votes
the last of us 2
oh
Yeah... We need to change that! I really believe Hades should win this award
So let's try to make that happen!
||YEEET EASIEST 8TH HADES WIN , SWORD 4 GOOOOD!||
same but just 14%? idk how the last rounds look but with many voting there who only heard of tlou...
gg!
since you have hidden sword , what did ya think of hidden spear?
and also was longer abit cuz yeah.. satyr sack was in last one
didnt unlock hidden spear :P
well havent used titan blood to do so
ah
i was confused since you first need hidden spear for any of the hiddens to be unlockable
||queen returned yay||
also, on heat 63 you can't use the upgrades in the mirror anyway
trutru
welp only need to ||deafeat hades 2 more times for the prologue or idk||
||LOL FINALLY ENTERED HADES' CHAMBER AND THE WARDROBE IS JUST CAPES||
ahh the amount of ||hades capes|| memes is beautiful
I just got the run fueled by father's bond
guys help
im trying to gt orthyus to go to tree lady
but the cormusician tab att contractor is balnk
it sayed more renovations required
*orpheus *eurydice *blank
then buy more rugs
zag has a rug addiction
huh for the ||Singer's Gamble|| to be in the house contractors inventory you just need
|| Orpheus Favor Progression, buy Administrative Privilege||
woops i looked at the wrong scroll
nothing about buying more rugs
at least it's not ||burning capes||
his family got a fabric addiction
understandable tho ๐
how to u uncover the statues in the cortyard
do you mean *statue?
there are 3
you walk up to them and press INTERACT and it says how much heat you need cleared
ahha
no u
๐ญ
i am a teacher, seeing you type breaks all my hearts
like you say that you have a test next week just please study and use correct typing it's not that hard ;_;
teacher playign game insted of doing school stuf
its biologi
u cant blame ur students for not workiing then
cause i have my work done
i diceided not to work
._.
Btw I think itโs a troll
this is depressing
troll?
Cuz before they said loads of spoilers and only changed em to the spoiler box thing after being told god knows how many times
And more
Or that yea
like they also spammed once when we couldnt answer their question
a little bit care for other players does nice things
I love Hades. I love the attention to the details, being able to walk up to a group of shades and listen to them chatter.
I love how this just feels like a place. Like it could be real.
I'm playing on god mode bc I'm a weak ass gamerrrgurl, but I've enjoyed it a lot. I love walking up to that one shade who cheers for Zag, to hear how is he going to thank them.
Lmao sgg having an advertising bot in their own server ๐ didn't mean to get all sappy
S A M E
Who runs the Supergiant twitter page?
There's a shade with a Zag banner in the Arena
Among all the other banners of the boss
LOL shade be like โthesus sucks, go zag!โ
question, when crosssaves are enabled will achievements be transferable? I have already unlocked a lot in the switch version and it would be cool for the achievements to transfer.
its called SHADEBRO
it no do that
I came here because Zag looked like a Homestuck troll and now after playing the game I'm convinced Zag is Homestuck troll
ok
also
me: spends time preparing for ||hades fight||
||Hades||:no not this time u can go befor i change my mind
fair enough it was a nice thought but whatev, this game is so good that I almost don't mind running through it again
hey there everyone
could i um.. ๐๐
ask for a steam game folder screenshot please?
the inside of \Hades if you will
private message would be epic
dying
dude, i just need a screenshot, i have the game
ah yes i need it good reson

๐
hey, please donโt evade the swear filter
@brisk trail do you have any issues with your files?
in a way, yea
or what part of the game files do you need?
not sure
ok then maybe ask in #h1-tech-support if you could just compare files
the order of the files wouldn't show you anyting
All I want is an artemis room, why is everything ares :(
this is the wrong channel to ask about such stuff
thats all u will se from screen shot
erik you dont know their issue so please stand to the side and dont swear at people.
goodbye then
you are seriously annoying rn and it is totally unneccessary
hope you get fast help there!
See you later! :)
i dont see why i should swear at somebody just looking for help, i also have issues with the game but basically gave up hah
now that i think about it
you could totaly compress a steam games folder and make like a bad torrent
but it wouldn't work
u will have a big file with all the informating but u cant use it
If you have issues with your game purchase, please use #h1-tech-support.
@Erik...............#8679, @distant night, or @brisk trail.
i dont
thanks, i already tried but it didnt really help but i'm fine with it as it is :)
I have unlocked all weapons , how to use titan blood now?
when u have a wepon equiped, interact with the spot the wepon was suposed to be again
||Aspects become available one run after the Rail has been unlocked and the player has collected at least one Titan Blood. ||
agean? @tacit ember
@twilit wraith
whos makin trouble here 
Remember to vote hades GOTY everyone 
Whoever on the recruitment staff found the singer for Orpheus, man, he's a godsend (no pun intended). I mean, he can pull off falsetto like...well...you get the point. I've been singing for years, and I still have trouble with going that high up.
orpheus' singer is zag's and skelly's voiceactor too ๐ง
...dude
But Zag is bad at playing the lyre at first
darren is god
Just looked him up. He's...man...just....i dont even know anymore
welcome to sgg
he's a heckin...yeah
we all worship him and every single of his works :)
I bought the hades soundtrack just to support SGG. I'm gonna go check that stuff out o.o
Any info about the cross save?
actually, question, if you bought the soundtrack, where might it be located?
Man ||Rama|| 's bow is pretty cool
It's a work in progress. However, there's no eta on it as of yet.
did you buy the bundle on steam?
i always feel like i'm using it wrong
yeppers
then go to your library, hades and check the right side for "additional content"
thank you good maam
sure thing :)
im thinking once its dled, I'll just mute the in game music, and run the soundtrack in the background
If i have no time to land an attack on the marked dudes without getting hit, i spam special, that's how i use it.
That bow with twin shot does a lot of damage on ||Hades||
Like a lot
Is Hades hard to run?
Sorta? It's not the easiest game out there, but with God Mode and once you've found a weapon you like, it's not nearly as hard as a lot of other rogue-likes or the Soulsborne games.
I meant specs for pc
I thought Sarcastic was asking about computer specs
oh, that wasn't obvious to me xD
Sorry ๐
I have a 1080 ti with a ryzen processor from a few years ago and it runs like silk
And specs-wise, it can't be too harsh, given that it also runs on the Switch
but I never actually checked^^
Ok ๐ I'd prefer to play with a dual shock than a switch controller
They did some fancy stuff turning 3D models into something that looks 2D
i believe controller compatibility is largely up to Steam's side on that front
I'll double check now, thinking of buying the game, heard nothing but great things about it
which they cover practically everything
Have you played any other roguelikes before?
ITS AMAZING. YES. BUY IT NOW. ITS SO GOOD YOU DONT EVEN KNOW
Enter the gungeon
BRUH...bruh...you...man....you need to. It's so tasty.
@distant night
Solved my problem, game works epicly
Donโt really need a 3d rendering card to run this game.
have no idea what the problem was, just worked
I'd never thought of that. Everything being in 2d and all. I legit thought the game was 3d. O.o
The developers made 3D models but they translated evrything into 2D
so it should run ok even on potato
I can't beat hades with melee weapons. His huge swing always gets me. This is impossible
I feel like I'm actually better at melee
hit him when he's not swinging
also hide behind a pillar when he does his big laser attack
I want a big laser attack too
don't we all ๐
@winter harbor that one i know but his huge swing is rly impossible because he can do it anytime while u attack him
you can dodge it
And u dont have time to escape
there;s a white circle around him before he does it
you gotta dash twice to dodge it tho
I learned that the hard way
if you can, get some extra dashes from hermes
those always help
Get the extra dash from the mirror too
^
Also hidden fists gives you extra dashes
Since you said you were struggling with melee
Or do Zag fists and stack the Lambent Plume and Greater Evasion on top
when half the enemy attacks just whiff, it's kinda neat
@feral urchin means i have to switch back from the mirror. Because that dodge dash helps me alot. But for hades, i have to switch back to 2x dash i guess haha
that was my first clear with the fists
@rustic valve hmm that's a good tip against him
@feral urchin noted haha. Ok two dashes then
fun fact: discord added a reply feature
Oh, sure - but for a beginner like I was, I couldn't reliably dodge. So I screwed up all the time, and then the auto-dodge fixed those mistakes ๐
I'd rather get the auto-dodge from hermes still
Yes, I had that, the Plume and the Fists
even at the beginning the extra dashes just felt better
for close to 50% dodge chance
but that's just me i guess
Really need those dashes against hades...
LAMENT OF ORPHEUS....๐ญ SO GOOD...Q.q so heckin good...I love this game far too much
pardon the above
Trying to get through 16 heat. EM4 with a bunch of other pact stuff turned on. It's a totally different game.
so I just bought it and its downloading, very excited to see what the hype is about
best purchase you ever made homeboi
k more like top 10 or something but you get the point
Very hyped ๐

Getting it today as well. The work at this studio is really inspiring to my own stuff๏ฟผ for whatโs possible. I look forward to experiencing firsthand the โbest rogue-lite available.โ
This game is nearly perfect except it seems like Hypnos is never the featured houseservant which is obviously it's only flaw ๐
maybe because he just SLEEPS ALL THE TIME

At some point thanatos even tells Hypnos he may lose his job if he keeps sleeping like this
I see no problem with this. I even bought him a bed
Dad didn't approve but when does he
i just caught some new fish, and not to be dramatic, but i would literally die for slavug and/or chrustacean
they're so cute oh my god
rare footage of me upon seeing the cute fish in hades
Me when God Of The Dead second half kicks in
hey frens does anyone know how to get the legendary chaos boon because after 150+ runs I still haven't gotten it
You just need to get a chaos boon before it, but it's RNG after that
I've seen the chaos boon before, just never lasted long enough for it to actually turn into a boon
ugh I get that it's just it seems like they only show up once or twice and never light of ixion lol
do u mean the one that gives u a dd
yeah that one
it says only one prerequisite but even with rolls like sheesh
done like 5, 0 heat runs just aiming for it but nah
use the mirror more chanse to get legendary thing
where are decorative themes applied?
they're on traps and kinda on the walls but it's kinda hard to tell
I did use it smh I just get like one chaos gate per run lol
damn what a waste of diamonds
_
no
there like in the house of hades
u can have like flowers and carpets and crap
and if ur buying stuf for the under world
theyre not decorativ
would definitely buy all the non cosmetic stuff first
those are but like the princely themes and stuff kinda just add stuff to the walls
def buy those first
zag x arty is definitely a good ship
best bow combo too
what about zag and shadebro
maaaan but shades don't really talk
they wouldn't be bad too but arty needs her zaggy boy
I always wondered if there would ever be more than 1 fan
The UI themes look so nice
my favorites are woodland and stygian
I think extreme meaqsures is nice, makes the game more difficult in a fun way and lets you get used to new boss patterns
oh that one
it's not difficult for me
I haven't gotten past styx with it though since benefits package has a minor prophecy so I almost always use that
I know it unlocks a little bit of dialogue for the Meg fight
EM1-3 are mostly cosmetic, but they DO make the fight a bit harder. EM4 is the only one where you have to approach it differently than the regular fight
oh man I've only tried 1, maybe I'll go to 4 next run
well
all i know is that there is a chariot
but still
It's more of a change than 1 and 2, yes, but you're still dodging T while smacking A
wait
Sometimes A doesnt even spin and it's almost the same as the regular
...yeah
Oh hello. I've had so few champions victories, and I just got what's at least my second one on Aegis. I wonder if that's actually what I'm best with lol
Or idk it might just have been boons I got
I still, of course, don't have any DDs left coming out of it...
Knowing the synergies is good
champions were a huge difficulty curve for me
definitely gets easier with practice, keep going!
Champions are consistently either a full on wall or I just plain lose almost all my HP getting through them lol
hmm what keepsake are you using?
which one gives you more trouble? spear man or bull?
honestly, theseus is such an elitist
Asterius should be able to get nectar
Asterius has never been anything but respectful to Zag
agreed
at least he does seem to genuinely care about asterius though
tis as well! and maybe the other fury
one of the things i appreciate about supergiant's writing, their characters have real depth, they're not just one dimensional
|| So if I understand the story so far - Meg and Zag used to bump uglies right? seems like theyre trying to rekindle||
like, ||theseus|| may be kind of a prick, but he genuinely cares for ||asterius. We know he risked his station in elysium to get asterius there and seems genuinely upset whenever we kill asterius in combat, saying things like "that was my friend!"||
I don't even remember what keepsake I used for Elysium this run lol.
Also I'm dead now
Freaking snake stone @.@
Acorn and hourglass are both good for elysium
||what does bump uglies mean?||
like, the good characters can have bad aspects, like how many of the gods ironically have a bit of a god complex
๐ ๐ a relationship
or the "bad characters" have their reasons too
you know?
it's really excellent character writing and i really admire it
lets move to #h1-story-discussion
no way zeus has a god complex
XD
zeus is really full of himself, even for a god
i would be too if I was god of thunder and lightning
and then posiden is like, zeus-lite in that respect
He's like the top god
like, still full of himself, but more chill about it
But Poseidon could be even worse with the infidelity
Zeus is literally god of the sky and usually regarded as king of the gods
He fathered many monsters
xd
anyway, that's just a lot of procreation, so to speak
not infidelity
if he's not in a commited relationship
he could be a farmer with all the seed spreading hes doing
Poseidon was also married to a relatively obscure goddess, Amphitrite
Gah i needed artemis strike for this run to get stupid good and she isn't showing up in styx :(
Now I regret taking heart rend over that strike in asphodel
Dang
be me
godess of birth and the sanctity of marrige
married to zeus, king of the gods
he's always down with mortals
least faithful god
mfw
for real, if he was going to be super unfaithful, he coulda at least married a god who isn't literally the goddess of marrige
people: haha hypnos sleep meme
cmon man, you're just doing her dirty at that point
step 1) infinite ammo/beam with rail step 2) zeus boons 3) profit
hypnos: is literaly sleep
step 2, cover yourself in oil
lol
Dang my only strike boon looks like it'll be +75% damage from chaos
Which is pretty good, but still
Could possibly roll strike from poseidon but eh?
damn i deal so much damage i don't even think they got to use all their new moves
@rare obsidian put on shackle for fun then
I forgot to change keepsakes before styx so I was using hourglass
Still won. Artemis cast was doing 2400 damage on crit
4x in a row ded to final boss on EM4 16 heat. Thinking of taking EM4 off, but I really want to beat them.
Im done witb hades
ofcorse no one shouts spoiler att this dud who sayed hades
when i say something remotly spoiler worthy like 20 diferent people shout spoiler att the same time
is hades aoe solar beam thing supposed to mini stun
just had a new record of 24 mins :')
yeahh
my best is 21:05
i got it with the spear
mine is shield
and i think sword too
had 11 hp but i managed
now that im thinking about it
oh mine were the fists!
im so proud of myself because im getting consistent runs where im beating final boss with 2 death defies left
im on a 4 winstreak
just two weeks ago i couldnt beat megaera but now look where i am
self improvement ๐
yay good for you!


aw yay orpheus is singing
hmm im still missing a keepsake
||Gun thing. Get the boon that turns the bomb into a rocket. Then, get the boon that turns the single rocket into five. Add in some crit mods from Artemis for seasoning. I'm easily critting 1k per shot. laughs maniacally||
I swear! I am not responsible for this bloody mess! I blame Than! :3
rocket is daedelus boon right
yes
as is the 5 split
no thats clusterbomb
ah
there is another hammer boon that makes the bombs into 80 damage rockets
btw which keepsakeare you missing? one of the last two?
I am in awe for this game. And i generally do not play rogue-like games... well freaking done honestly.
The story, the lore too! im speechless. lol
im doing 822 with excalibur no crits or anything
im missing petrocleus . just gotta get to him and ill unlock it
welcome to the team havenkeeper :)
ah good old patty, very good keepsake, i hope you get to him next time :)
Have you seen the credits? Therein lies the answer
AH already answered, nvm
sry :c
||excalibur is actually a house||
could you please spoiler the name?
Any luck unlocking the codex index? I'm in the same situation, many many runs and progression, not showing up. PC
Does anybody know what kind of sword the aspect of nemesis is?
also the games been out for a while and has expansive internet databases
let me look
or the uh, poseidon aspect for that matter
what do you mean with "not showing up" and "unlocking the codex index"? do you mean you are having issues with the achilles dialogue showing up or is it just not progressing in the codex? or is it about the codex upgrade from house crontracotr not showig up?
just do the || before and after the word you want to spoiler
its a Dadao @pale lagoon
thanks
no problem
nemesis is the one with crit chance after special, it's really liked since it can do mad damage
ahh
Manapot got it though
saw the answer just now so yeah sry :)
Any chance you know what Poseidon Aspect is?
for sword?
yeah
I haven't got the work order yet. 30 runs, lots of story progression, got the fate list. Tried clearing backlog of achilles with 10 short runs like I read somewhere, nothing. Unsure of unlock requirements because fate list and talking to achilles after every run is not enough
yeah according to the wiki the fated list is the only thing oyu need before you get access to the codex index workoder; have you already fullfilled any boon prophecies?
can you || fish || in elys?
In the fates list? Not tied to Gods no, have 1 left for Athena so I've been hunting that to see if that helps. Also haven't stumbled across any duo boons yet don't know if that is a prereq.
thats a prereq according to reddit, to have seen at least one duo boon, maybe try after that?
Hmm it's weird though after 30 runs not to have stumbled across a duo. Yeah also read that in reddit would like to have confirmation from dev or something idk maybe I need to accept the curse of randomness... But have started hunting for duo boons now, I guess wearing a 3 star keepsake for any of the Gods will be the best way to increase chances (don't have that talent yet that could help out)?
have you unlocked the incresed duo boon chance? from the mirror?
Nope, haven't seen it, got more unlocking left to do on the mirror, guess it's further down below
I actually just did more runs and it eventually unlocked! I think maybe talk to Achilles too each time you return to the house. Other than that, I'm not sure what I did to unlock it
All the duo boons have prereqs from both gods, so if you're hunting for duos in general, make sure you're taking from two or more gods
Awrf. Eris got nerfed to hell and back, didn't it? XD The duration of the damage boost literally got cut in half...
yep!
never seen a spot there @shadow rain
@distant night just mentioned that stumbling across a duo boon could be the trick that is needed, could that have been the trigger for you? If not I guess backlogged achilles dialogue could be the problem
one very persistent duo boon is lightning rod (zeus - artemis) so try getting that?
Hm possibly. I think I did get a duo before unlocking codex but I was trying so many things so that I can't pinpoint exactly what triggered it
they show up with the same regularity they do in Asphodel, give or take. a little chime notifies you one is in the room with you (it plays after you clear encounters, or on entry in shops and free rooms). There's also a Well of Charon item you can buy to force one
there is no dialogue from achilles about the codex upgrade that comes before the upgrade.. i only remember one of him saying ||how glad he is that we work so well with it|| and zag asking ||why the codex works the way it does|| but that came way after i unlocked the codex index upgrade ๐ค
could always just be bad luck, though. I know someone who didn run into ||Eurydice|| until surprisingly many runs. Random gonna random ๐
20:12 new record
Achilles is the one who gives you the codex in the first place. I don't recall him being associated with the upgrade either, though
random gonna random - well said! it really is infuriating if the dialogue pool rng keeps you from something important :c
Pierced Butterfly really seems to be the kind of keepsake you mostly want to have if you're already good enough at the game to not need it lol
ugh yes. I swear I spent like fifteen runs in a row where Meg either wasn't around or was in conversation so I could never chat with her/gift her nectar
Persistent as in more common?
very
I think I got an Achilles dialogue about the upgrade after I unlocked it but yea he's probably not associated with unlocking it
Random is giving me some spiked blood pressure rn
since the boons you need for it to become available it shows up always while hunting duo boons and having zeus and artemis there ๐
yeah exactly
Feels like I'm alone at my kitchen table rolling a D900 die or something
i like how
just yeets into the air after you talk to her
would be weird if achilles had a deeper understanding of the olympian boons ๐ค
Nyx might?
22k more darkness to go
for a bunch of the early unlocks I have no clue what triggered them because a lot of things kept happening at or around the same time
yeah there are just a few scripted things which are really consistent, wouldnt be mad about more scripted dialogues but with the amount of dialogue in the game... well what to prioritize and what not later on is hard to decide :)
How can some boons be more easy to get? Is it because some boons come more often, so for instance the lighting rod ingredients are common boons from both zeus and artemis?
Or are you just fond of it because you are his cat?
i would say it has also something to dowith zeus being very insistent with his boons, he really likes giving you trade boons
prerequisites and such
Ah so Zeus has a thing for divine joint operations
idk why lightning rod in particular just has this surrounding thing around it in the hades community that whenever you want a zeus duo you gotta dodge lightning rod many many times
Haha alright, so a crack in the random then I guess, a fluke in the algorithm
When is next content patch for Hades? Did they say anything?
Game is finished
This year no more they said at the last one
Some Duos have more possible prereqs than others, too, which impacts "ease" in the sense that you're more likely to stumble on them randomly
There will be cross-saves between Switch and PC at some point, and the latest PC patch will come to Switch
Not sure if that's planned for this year still, though last I heard it was?
Everything the teamโs said about it and other post-release topics is in #hades-faq 
Hm ok. I beat the game with most weapons now. Not much more to do besides cosmetics. Would be fun with some more areas, monsters, keepsakes, boons or weapons. I love the game, but a bit repetetive now after I have every weapon 20+ heat ๐
Ok great, thanks @tepid yacht
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Does some boons only spawn of certain higher rarity? Are duo boons considered a higher rarity, hence why it's good to have 3 star god keepsake with you for duo boon hunting?
Duos and Legendaries are treated independently from the normal rarity progression, as far as I know. There is a mirror upgrade that lets you boost the chances of getting one, but unlike with normal boons, they don't have their own rarity ranks (and are unaffected by, for instance, Rare Crop)
I can't speak to the game internals or raw probabilities there, though
Thanks, I'll just keep on truckin then. 40 runs no duo lol, but now I know the mechanics better wish me luck
I know how this works!
Boons spawn with 3 "boon slots"
then each boon slot rolls for a rarity.
First it rolls for legendary, then epic, then rare, then the fail case is common
The wiki does have a list of all the duos available, btw, if you want to ensure you have prereqs: https://hades.gamepedia.com/Duo_Boons
standard legendary boon drop rate is 10 percent I think?
yes, chaos boons , mirror stuffs and yarns can help your get duos and legends
So ~3/10 times you will roll a legendary/duo boon if available
the epic drop rate is actually lower at 5 percent
But the rarity is decided BEFORE the actual boon is decided on
If it can't fill with a legendary/duo does it fall back to heroic or just keep rolling?
if u want epic boons just get exclusive access
@shadow rain it won't even roll for legendary if a legendary isn't available
you don't get free probability at epic just because legendary has a roll chance
ah cool, thanks ๐
from my experience it does but i have no practical way to prove that
I just witnessed a Burn-Flinger jump out of an Athena's impervious buff
Is like if the enemy just wanted to die
hmm it says
The chances for Legendary Boons can be increased with specific gods' Keepsakes, Eurydice's Refreshing Nectar, Well of Charon item Yarn of Ariadne, and the Mirror of Night talent God's Legacy.
Any objections to a Hades meme here, or should I take it elsewhere?
if its a spoiler go to spoiler channel
"Hyrda heads were never meant to fly."
I find this offensive. (hehehe)
how do you get the || eternal signit ||? i dont see it in administrative chambers
can you romance everyone at once ?
wdym
Spoilered for the presence of a god you wouldn't see until you've reached the surface once; otherwise spoiler-free: ||https://twitter.com/Spwncar/status/1335460426293895168||
oh, so that means i can romance dusa + any other person? :0c and they won't get mad at me and each other?
||u cant romance dusa in the first place kek||
alrighty, thank you
Greek gods are not known for monogamy
Can confirm that prereq of getting the codex index is: 1) codex, 2) fate list, 3) stumbling across a duo boon. Unlocked immediately after the run where I found one. It is really weird though that I with 40 run didn't come across A SINGLE DUO.
it's a rare chance but can ||get than and meg in the same room for romance||@zealous spade
rip
charon gave me a duo and thats how i got it
all rarity enhancement can help u get duos
Literally the slowest thing i have ever used
And got me to my fastest clear
||Arthur|| got me to a under 30 min clear 
@steady crane remember to tag hidden aspects next time

well I didn't get merciful end but I got three different sources of Doom with stacking doom boon sooo 
https://i.imgur.com/aCq1zpQ.png
What's this rage counter mean? I also sometimes see it for the Frost boon
use chaos, Poseidon boons, ||sis companion|| and darker thirst
@open linden
and u already get a lot of darkness by repeating even 1 heat
I think that is exclusive to ||Alecto|| fight. ||they charge it up and will become more difficult if its filled.||
I've only ever seen that as part of the ||Alecto|| boss fight
I mean who cares if you die? you get the most darkness from completing boss battles
so just get poseiden boon and use the glowing weapon for that run cause you get +20%
u dont rly need much darkness in first place, except u cares lot abt ranks
You can get darkness instead of titan's blood/diamonds/ambrosia in boss fights on any heat where you've already collected the reward once
we already said that
i gurss they dont rly incentivise the casual crown to go get bounty locked from heat 20 onwards in the first place
so theres no point in outting darkness too
they already made their point clear: that the ranks ae cosmetics only and isnt compulsary for anything at all
||do hidden aspects start unlocking on their own after investing tb in 5 diff aspects?||
check pinned post on spoilker channel for full hidden wep guide
thank u alpha
pretty much yeah
I just want to uncover ||deluxe skelly trophies||
nvm misread
so i have a mid run question does posidons knockback special get revoked if i have double nova on stygius
no, that only removes the special's innate knockback
ok so i can still do slam effects
yep, if you have poseidon on your special
You'll often miss the second blast thanks to the knockback, just a heads-up.
would be neat if they added a boon that increased the length of your dash\
Are any of the hidden aspects particularly great in their base forms?
Starting to unlock them, but don't want to dump a whole ton of blood into any one of them
Oh very sorry
||did anyone notice, when reloading Aspect of Lucifer, the momentary sound of a choir?||
there's so many heckin easter eggs in this game. lol
Ok, how the heck did Derrin Korb hold a friggen high note in falsetto? Like...how the heck do you sing in that without it hurting after a half hour or so?
Thats just mind blowing to me
i assume lots of training
iirc he was part of a rock band before becoming sgg's composer?
Please someone tell me that Bouldy is just the stone Cronus ate when he ate all the children
In greek lore its not so probably not
though a lot of things happen in Hades that don't happen in greek mythos so maybe
but I don't think Kronos is that huge
I mean, when he was cut open, five gods came out sooo... size is mutable?
I think thats something more about his weird magically stomach than anything
because he also just. didn't digest them
also he threw them up not cut open
like they were just sitting in his stomach for years and years not being digested
And somehow also were still babies?
He did throw them up, yeah. But dude had room for 'em all
So he gotta be big, and have a huge throat.
would you say the game is easier with controler?
figured it out
the kamikaze mini carts
its the little exploady carts
speedrunners play using controller
i like it on controller
I find it playable with kbm
helps me keep track of things
i play KBM and "speed run" as in i try to beat it as quick as possible
can you not use summons in boss fights
calls you mean?
you should be able to use your summon during boss fights, but not during the final one or the character you got it from though (so example you canโt use Batty on the furies)
oh i see
You can use summons in the final boss fight
You can but you're limited at first
The final boss has to give you permission first before you can use the others
Sup guys bought the game like 2 days ago and i just defeated hades. I'm really liking this game. Thank you supergiant
Not all of them at first
Bouldy doesnt care about permission though 
what do you guys think about adding something more visual for the ||rail ammo||
i feel like it could do with something when it's running low, its rough to estimate how much more you got before you're out
something like a circle right next to zagreus that empties out
Is it just me or is Artemis' Deadly Strike completely subpar compared to any other boon that increases the standard attack damage ? Every time it's offered to me, I compare the damage values and it falls short all the time if you consider the value of chill or knocking effects.
it's cuz you need to account the average value that the crit% chance is giving you
I am.
crit is 15% on attack, so 15% of the time you'll be doing 3x damage
I know how % works and am counting them properly.
this includes the flat % increase you get from the boon
so youll be dealing 360% 15% of the time
where does your 360% comes from ?
(its also worth nothing that most other bonuses also get multiplied, like backstab damage and bonuses from other boons)
common artemis on attack is 20% stronger attack + 15% crit chance
so your base value without anything else is 120%
that x3 for a crit is 360
ok so regarding artemis
let's make a comparison on common vs the strongest modifier; aphro
aphrodite gives you a flat 50%, artemis gives you 20% and crit
which means, just this boon alone, artemis' modifier is 1.2(1+(0.15x2))
which adds up to 1.56
while this looks like a measly 6% difference
crit scales much better with other things
let's say you have a cast lodged in the enemy and boiling blood
with common aphro attack you get x2 attack modifier
with common artemis
you get x2.21
I have Aphrodite right now, Epic level 5 gives me +144% damage, Artemis Heroic level 5 in exchange would give me +70%. Are bad rolls possible ? I don't know yet if there can be variations on these.
there's a roll in the rarity modifier
With the hammer making all your sword attack do 25 damage, I calculated an average of 9760 damage for 100 hits with Aphrodite and 8075 damage with Artemis.
yeah, artemis' thing is it scales much better with other modifiers
like chaos
backstab
boiling blood
and of course heartrend
Isn't it just gonna scale the same way with non crit damage ?
no
modifiers are additive
so in my example
with aphro common attack; you get 1 + 0.5(Aphro) + 0.5(Boiling)
with artemis common attack you get (1 + 0.2 + 0.5) * (1 + 2x0.15)
yep
it multiplies everything
there's also the fact that on their secondary boons artemis has clean kill and pressure points while aphro only has that one +14% damage
and... heartrend
mmm heart rend
after some discussion i even believe that artemis is still the best even on nemesis
where it should have the most diminishing return
so... yeah
crits are crazy because they're multiplicative
So on a totally isolated case, crits are worse, but when applied with other status effect that increase damage it becomes better and better then ?
kind of, yea
when comparing them on common artemis is still 6% better
but its not worth the consistency imo
I should have looked for damage calculation, there's even a page on the wiki.
You're absolutely right.
Damage = Base Damage
ร (1 + Sum of Critical Damage Bonus)
ร (1 + Sum of Regular Damage Bonuses)
ร (Product of (1 - Damage Reductions))
Boiling blood going into the regular damage bonuses
I'll run my numbers again.
does anyone know if this works on m1 macs?
Attack %
Common,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19
Heartbreak Strike,50%,70%,84%,93%,100%,105%,109%,113%,117%,121%,125%,129%,133%,137%,141%,145%,149%,153%,157%
Deadly Strike,20%,28%,33%,37%,41%,45%,49%,53%,57%,61%,65%,69%,73%,77%,81%,85%,89%,93%,97%
Divine Strike,40%,56%,67%,75%,80%...
I was really looking forward to a fight
@misty jolt ||the final boss is spoilers in this channel|| please use spoiler tags
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On both sides
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Makes more sense XD
Ty 
I mean where would I write a message like that anyways?
If not discussion
Or is it here, but just with tag
Hmmm I get there are spoilers in that channel, not sure how that specifically fits there tho. But thanks
you just spoiler it, people will still read and respond
Personally, I'm a bit afraid of going there to ask questions regarding the "true" end game (whatever it may be) since I'm not sure whether or not I've seen it yet.
Is there further end game || after the credits? ||
yah
Well, that was my question x)
I see. Stuff to look forward to
yah
It's a bit of a shame how it's pretty much impossible to look anything into this game, fan content or review, without getting tons of little things spoiled.
Crazy that this game is 20-25 bucks
I mean when learning about the game I saw stuff about the final boss, and I didnโt think it was a big deal at all
i mean just clear the main story w/ credits first, then start watching vids
Most obvious final boss ever if you ask me
I wasnโt expecting credits tho. Thatโs for sure
That's right, it totally slipped my mind that it's so cheap. I'm on my 5xth run and there's still so much to do.
Other topic.
At first I really didn't like the Dark Regeneration mirror trait but to me it's so much better than the other 3 life per room. Can't count the number of time an infernal trove allowed me to go back full life for basically free.
dark regeneration?
Restore 30% of darkness collected as HP.
oh
Per rank * so up to 60%.
ooo
Infernal trove at 150, clear it, 100 left, +20% because Darker Thrirst = 72HP.
huh
Cerebus destroyed ||his meal in three bites||

found it
24 win streak.
which aspect
sword 4
shadow slash
||excalibur|| is best weapon hands down. big ||sword|| go woosh
I hate it
double edge
Best thing about using ||excalibur|| is that it already has good damage so you can built more utility or experiment with other stuff
no
best sword hammer indubitably
||Excalibur|| has taken the place as my favorite over spinny shield
dash attack hidden sord is so fun
although I still have to do a run with snake shield for the contract
u got a really good roll for that hammer though toothless those are my 3 favorite hammers on it
really can't go wrong
...but yeah the right answer is double edge
I was saving for a contractor item and got suckered into paying for ||nyx's portal thing||
but i really don't want to run dashcalibur
shadow slash is good tho
shadow slash is amazing too
ye more dmg from backstab
I got a chaos boon that gave me 91% backstab damage and shadow slash hammer
shadowslash is better if you play it normally
I usually get deflect on attack for ||excalibur|| but I might try with crit
boonless is fun
lol
wuts the good god boons for sword 4?
Deflect on attack, any mobility based one, attack speed
arty attack passion dash heart rend
arty aphro duo
oo its my bed time, take care all
oh
+150% crit dmg to weak
multiplicative
also weak + the damage reduction aura means ur taking like no dmg
btw does rupture work on bosses
not sure why it wouldn't
||LOL i just placed the aura thing ontop of tisiphone and when she did her pulses of the green projectile things i just watch em all move in slow mo||
hidden sord is the freest high confidence ever
oh god
rn im in chaos and i have to choose between more foes but then more hp...
or..
u take dmg using ur attack but ur attack becomes stronger
I just completely ignore the chaos penalty lol
i pick stuff based on the benefit
I'm feeling kinda stuck, as in idk how to upgrade any farther. Reached Styx twice but die pretty early, diamonds are way too hard to get. Any tips?
-50% movespeed against flame wheels isn't exactly the most enviable situation.
have u tried getting the diamond from hydra with every weapon
are you dying to the poison?
but also that yeah poison SUX
Pratice and experiment different builds
u can cure yourself on the little glowing sinks
The poison is a bit of an obstacle but it's mainly just that by the time I get there I've used up my defiance on the last two bosses.
Hydra really gives me issues with visual overload.
It's a rogue kinda game, meaning the in game build is one thing but your knowledge of monsters and their pattern is one hell of a resource to win you the game.
ah yeah
confidence too
I know what the Hydra is supposed to do but it does so much of it, if that makes any sense.
the boys used to take 1 or two of my defiances which made me way too weak to win
try getting the acorn once u get it you can ignore most attack from the main hydra and focus the tiny heads
try focusing on just one hydra head at a time
atleast until acorn is gone
the tips i can give to the hydra and heroes fight is:
for hydra you want to focus on one head at a time, from the furthest corner
for heroes you want to take it slow
kill asterius first
yep
asterius is also very predictable
I focus on Asterius, and I do one head at a time. :/ I guess I'm just really flippin bad.
the most u have to fear is taking dmg from thesus throwing spears at you
is it okay for me to post a link to a funny tweet I made about Hades and Poseidon in here or is there a better channel for that?
That's what I did for the Hydra but I found that it made me stick to a single area and I ended up taking hits whereas by switching left and right at times, I can avoid getting cluttered by monsters and AOE.
keep the boys separated
hmm what weapon are u using?
(sorry to interrupt btw)
post it if u want
I was playing vs the duo in a very weird way where I ignored Asterius and focused Theseus first, it seemed to work for me but now after I heard hear to focus the bull first it definitely is a lot easier.
also take care of the lil hydra eggs immediately
divine dash helps a lot in that fight
lmao
the slow attacking sword....
cuz yeah i have the chaos boon where if i attack i take 5 dmg
oh 15 then
lol
but it does take care of the tiny monsters that sprout from the bone eggs
and also destroys the eggs while i spam special
yikes that sounds harsh
so thats good atleast
to have a chaos boon during boss fight
I would probably just attack to get it over with
Do you have a companion? that could help.
im not patient lol
always check room number before you meet great granpa 
glucose guardian chaos
I usually just ||Battie|| the hydra ๐ฌ
@agile cargo thanks so much for the advice ๐ I put it in there. You guys have a good night.
I never use a companion for hydra but I prob could
||im trying to get bouldy rn||
i wish i have the artermis call rn
just DELETE the hydra
||em2|| hydra i can often ||meg|| like... at least 4 heads at once
i used up 1 DD but atleast hydra gonna die
this has to be the coolest finishing hit ive ever landed || https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/364243718477185035/782080188552052756/lernie.mp4 || (hidden bow spoilers)
I typically switch a lot but I find the easiest weapons are the spear and shield.
It saves you time I guess not sure if its recommended to use a companion, I almost always find at least one ||night spindle||
ah yes, my favorite melee weapon, ||rama||
idk much about it
tho
i find when i use shield
double hit hammer thing
with support fire can rack up alot of arrows
i forgot the name of the hammer that makes shield attack hit twice
I think I am an exclusive twin fists player, when can I call myself that?
Gun is alright but I get super nervous using it.
if you're only vs the main head
hydra deadddd
i dont use the gun
just stand dead center on the stage and as far away as possible
I hate sword and bow. Fists are alright with the right boons.
heck i barely made it to elysium with gun meanwhile with sword i have like 6 final boss kills
no hammer/boon required
The gun is easier too imo, I have very bad mechanics and thought shield, gun were easiest to clear with, though I just liked the gloves too much to switch to them.
I think you could call me a sword fan https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/328246239160434691/785357647591374868/Screenshot_20201206-221038.jpg
sword fans unite
11 mins 
heart rend nemesis is crack
my fastest so far is 19mins
with sword 4
the first run i did right after getting sword 4 was my fastest
I also sadly wasted 2 diamonds on the office because I thought it would DO something...
can you call yourself a sword fan if you sold your soul to eris 
u mean administrative chamber?
Mine's 22 iirc but I generally take 25-30 mins plus I usually pause many times.
nah, none of the diamond upgrades do anything iirc
it unlocks some story iirc
my rail clears are one 32 heat Eris clear and one 0 heat hidden clear
is it worth selling your soul to eris?
Funny enough, I hate the gun but one of my runs where I made it to Styx was with the gun. I just brought it to beat Hydra and got lucky.
first try btw
admittedly its a hot ||statue||
is ice wine having delay on secret shield aspect intended?
I was surprised at how not difficult it was
Y'all are clearly waaaay better than me though lmao
||wut do the statues do anyway||
nothing
except look nice
ive got like 90 hours in this game
u will get better with time trust me
How many escape attempts seem average before you beat it for the first time?
i beat final boss on my 46th try
varies pretty widely
No I am worse than you, I can assure you that
I know someone who beat it on their 6th try, I beat it on my 21st
I had 20, but I also play loads of roguelikes
this was my first roguelike
My fiancรฉe did 15 I think?
Oof that hurts, I've got 30 attempts and I've beaten Theseus and Asterius only twice.
I still have issues with Hydra sometimes lmfao.
I do not even remember such things, I have played the game like 105 times so far and can only consistently clear now. My goal rn is to get those statues ๐
The game tells you, though? Scrying pool and the admin area both give attempt numbers
ive definitely lost DDs to hydra recently

