h1-discussion

[brisk trail]

dumbzzle is my new name

[wild schooner]

i have a hot take. cerberus isnt the best boy.

he's the best boys.

[brisk trail]

at first i was angy

but fair

drops pitchfork

[wild schooner]

i always forget to pet cerberus after every run, and it makes me sad

[brisk trail]

gasp

[steady crane]

So, what do you do to increase a character's relationship once a locked heart appears? Happened to me with Dusa

[wild schooner]

depends on the character i think

[waxen juniper]

What does ||aspect of arthur's aura|| do?

[wild schooner]

||slows down projectiles that come into it. i think it also might reduce damage||

[rustic valve]

||yup, gives you a nice damage reduction too||

[waxen juniper]

Nice! The game crashed on me for the first time

[red tiger]

Congrats!

[tepid plover]

So...

I've issues with fishing

like I can get fish but the margins for them are really hard for me

is there anything to like make it easier?

I don't care if I have to like chose a keep sake or dedicate a run to it. I just want to get that part of my codex filled

[red tiger]

one thing is the bob never goes down more than 4 times

so if the bob goes down a fourth time, be ready to pull it back up

[rustic valve]

The margin there really is just very narrow, unfortunately

[red tiger]

other than that, make sure your finger is always hovering over the key/button to pull it up

[rustic valve]

I managed to finally catch the last thing recently, but I haven't finished all entries yet and it's been a while^^

[winter harbor]

I still need to catch more chaos fish

[remote anchor]

It's not random

[rustic valve]

how do you mean?

[exotic furnace]

about max heat, i feel like without td, it should be doable

but td makes everythibg way harder

and fo i guess but i never played with that

[remote anchor]

If it's a catch, the bobber will sink in ~3 secs since you started, or since the last bob

[rustic valve]

so you can count it out?

Hmm. I need to try that out

[winter harbor]

There can only be at most 3 false bobs

[remote anchor]

If it's not a bite after 3 secs, you can ease up untilyou see a bob, then start counting again

[rustic valve]

Well, yes, dysphere but that doesn't help with the timing - or at least for me it doesn't. The window for pressing the button feels very narrow, even when I know it's gotta be the fourth one.

[remote anchor]

Don't quote me but it's ~3 secs

[real skiff]

eh is it?

feels pretty easy to me

[exotic furnace]

catching the fish is pretty easy

i listen for the sound

[rustic valve]

Catching, yes - perfect catch, no

Sorry, should've specified.

[real skiff]

the bonus fish window is a bit more difficult

yup

uh try to do it on sound instead

human reaction to sound is faster than to visuals

[rustic valve]

As long as I don't get distracted, I don't think I've missed a catch yet. But perfect...

huh. Thanks for that tip.

[real skiff]

and you dont have to worry about the fakeouts

[glacial lagoon]

what's a perfect catch? rng?

[exotic furnace]

wait what is a perfect catch?

[rustic valve]

Yes (in terms of what you catch; there's a couple of rare fishes you can get)
No (it's down to pressing the button/trigger right when you can)

If you get the timing of the fishing just right, it's a Perfect Catch and you get a rarer fish

[glacial lagoon]

oh, how do I do that?

[real skiff]

if you time it perfectly you guarantee a rare fish at least

if you wait a bit you can get a common instead

if you wait to much you get nothing

on perfect catch theres a 1/21 chance to get a rare legendary fish

[brisk trail]

probably higher but no way to know for sure

i think i've gotten legendary pretty consistently for it to be that low

and others have said the same

[real skiff]

i think the wiki states its 1/21

[glacial lagoon]

what''s the sound I'm listening for?

[brisk trail]

yeah, we suspect it's higher

a ding

[real skiff]

"If the chamber isn't cleared of enemies, Zagreus cannot start fishing until the encounter is cleared.

Stand near the fishing spot and press the Interact button to start fishing. The bobber may fake bob for up to 3 times. When a fish bites the hook, the bobber will submerge completely in the water. Also, there will be a flash of light on top of the rod. At this moment, the player should press the Interact button as soon as possible to catch the fish.

The sooner the Interact button is pressed, the higher rarity the fish will be. The time window of fishing is:

Less than 0.34 second: Perfect catch. Guaranteed to catch a Rare fish. 1/21 (≈ 4.76%) chance to catch a Legendary fish
0.34 second to 0.68 second: Catch. 1/21 chance to catch a Rare fish.
After 0.68 second: fail with a "Too Late" message."

[exotic furnace]

but how do you know if you did a perfect catch?

[brisk trail]

it says so

on the banner

[exotic furnace]

weird

[glacial lagoon]

I think I've gotten one on accident but I usually pay attention to the vibration

[brisk trail]

we've seen the wiki, we just think it's likely higher than written

but as i said, no way to know for sure

[opaque nexus]

I get perfect catch almsost every time

whenever there is fish I just enter a zen state

[brisk trail]

just don't breathe

[glacial lagoon]

is the pool of styx blood

[wild schooner]

i think someone said that the vibrations are on the left side of the controller if its a fake out, and on the right if its real

[opaque nexus]

I dont even use those

[glacial lagoon]

that's too much man

[opaque nexus]

just look above the bob

so you only react when you see the light

[brisk trail]

it's cute how when you fish in asphodel, zag says

"i'll save you from the magma, fishies!"

arguably the best line in the whole game

[glacial lagoon]

he really delivers his lines well

I think the ||Lernie arc|| is better though

[wild schooner]

i would say the ||tisiphone arc|| is really good

[glacial lagoon]

oh my gosh yes

it was so satisfying hearing her say it

[foggy root]

Fishing is great

Love it

[solar sonnet]

i wanna ask

why does my charon bow special sometime feels short

[quick vector]

when is the next major patch?

[opaque nexus]

potentially never

actually almost definitely never

this wasn't made to be a game that gets constantly updated

and SG usually just moves on from projects once they are finished

[queen phoenix]

Yeah

Also

Throughout my play through I have found that I love every character for their own reason, except for Theseus, Theseus sucks

Does anybody agree or no

[foggy root]

A shame it won't get patches but fair enough really

It's a very complete game

[opaque nexus]

theseus is a "love to hate" deal

[rustic valve]

It's already gotten more patches than most of the others, I think.

but mostly I came here to say that I laugh out loud every time I get "record scratch Hey, look at me, ||Charon||"

that noise is so out of context xD

[queen phoenix]

Yeah, and the ||sick beat after it is so good||

[opaque nexus]

also theseus further emphasizes the fact that elysium is "for the great, not the good"

[brisk trail]

I love theseus

[distant night]

oop

[minor citrus]

did developers mention any plans to have ability to reset titan blood distribution? I had to restart the game from beginning bc I was spending the blood assuming I'd get more later 😛

[scarlet perch]

You do get more later

If I’m assuming you haven’t beaten ||hades|| yet

[heady sandal]

always check the shop

[minor citrus]

yea I beat him several times

[scarlet perch]

You get more with the ||pact of punishment||

You get more by doing the bounties

And filling the ||heat meter||

[minor citrus]

ah

[robust sundial]

TFW he restarts the game but he didn't need to...

[scarlet perch]

So you get more through that

[minor citrus]

I still kept my old save but I figured it's better to restart now that I know the weapons I like

[scarlet perch]

Speaking of that, which aspect should I max out on the sheild and rail?

[rustic valve]

On the Rail, Eris is really strong.

[distant night]

depends really on you

[rustic valve]

On the Shield, I personally like ||Beowulf||, but you might not have that yet. Of the others, I like the Zeus shield best.

[distant night]

yeah eris is almost always the fave but with shield it really depends on you

[scarlet perch]

Is that one the secret one?

[rustic valve]

But these are all very much personal prefs.

[distant night]

yes

[rustic valve]

Yup, that's why I spoilered it 🙂

[scarlet perch]

How do you get it?

Idc very much about gameplay spoilers

Only story

[rustic valve]

You need a waking phrase, which you get from conversations with Asterius

[distant night]

look in #h1-story-discussion in the pinned

[scarlet perch]

Ok

[brisk trail]

pins in #h1-story-discussion

[scarlet perch]

Lemme look

[brisk trail]

jinx

[distant night]

jinx

:c

[scarlet perch]

No it’s not just unlocking the past ones

A lot of unlockables are tied to dialogue

[distant night]

the hidden aspects are all tied to specific dialogue?

[scarlet perch]

I believe so

Kind of with what I read

[brisk trail]

yeah

[distant night]

like for spear you have to talk to ||achilles since his aspect is the second spear one||. bow is tied to artemis cause she is the ultimate bow-hunter ad so on

[scarlet perch]

woah there

Gotta spoil that

[distant night]

sry forgot that the spear aspect isnt obvious

[chilly slate]

Put my controller on my lap after the Lernie fight and looked at my phone, looked up and zag had wandered into the freaking lava and used up a DD

[brisk trail]

joycon drift? lmao

[chilly slate]

Nah my thigh nudged the joystick

[brisk trail]

ah

[faint burrow]

you cant force duo boons right

ive got shield special doom plus stacking doom and dash deflect.. just need the duo boon now xd

[brisk trail]

its up to chance

you cant get duo boons from trials of the gods but you can from shops

[distant night]

but?

can or cant o.o

[brisk trail]

• duo boons from trials? ❌
• duo boons from shops? ✅

[distant night]

thanks :)

[brisk trail]

np

it was worded a little weird

[distant night]

the but confused me 😂

[chilly slate]

I vote that builds based on vengeance boons be called masochist builds

[distant night]

valid

[austere jacinth]

Given the protagonist, all builds are that.

[distant night]

👀

never thought of it as that, but ||meg and his past||..........

[chilly slate]

Well I didn’t wanna come out and say bottom builds

[distant night]

BOTTOM BUILDS TAKE MY NECTAR

[chilly slate]

Wow I haven’t even considered what my bond artifact would be

Maybe like a Diet Coke can

[dark lark]

How may boons are in the game?

Nvermind 22 per god

and 10 gods is 220

[brisk trail]

many boons

[dark lark]

I want to die

[brittle rune]

I haven't been able to find a spear build I really love, what are some poggers builds?

[quiet gull]

Chaos and Hermes dont have as many boons as the rest

[dark lark]

Really?

[quiet gull]

There are 8 main olympian Gods

Also, Hammers are sort of boons

[dark lark]

Hammers are their own porblem

[quiet gull]

There's an upgrade to the codex where you can check all boons out

[dark lark]

I know

[quiet gull]

Except it doesnt list hammers, because SSG hates us

[distant night]

achilles athena-artemis-zeus with tripple dash hit is nice

[brittle rune]

Artemis special?

[distant night]

artemis on dash and call

[brittle rune]

oooooooh that does sound nice

[distant night]

special is good too but i dont tend to use special to hit alot

only to activate the extra damage

[dark lark]

Okay so its 176 olympians + 12 suffixes and 12 prefixes chaos boons + 16 hermes + 13 deadalus for each wepon (or 78 deadulus) = 294 indicidual boons that i have to copy into a txt file. PAIN

[distant night]

why :o

also hi erumi, how's pyre?

[dark lark]

its AMAZING

[brisk trail]

you making something?

[distant night]

:D

[dark lark]

Yeah, using a mod im making a external tool in unity for run viewing

[eager path]

yo anyone finding the minotaur bossfight really frustrating

?

[distant night]

arent there boon files in the speedrun server?

[wild schooner]

i honestly wish i could get into pyre.

[dark lark]

Speedrun server?

[distant night]

boss or miniboss fight?

[eager path]

the one in Elysium

[dark lark]

Its better if you can play against others.

[distant night]

yeah the one linked with most speedruner vids/vods?

[eager path]

with the guy named ||Theseus||

[distant night]

yes!! but i am still to shy to ever ask you lol i suck :)))))))

[dark lark]

Please play with me. PLEASE

[wild schooner]

oh, i love the gameplay. i meant the story of it. i struggle with reading, so its hard to make it through

[dark lark]

Ooooooo, i get that

[distant night]

ah yeah it is hard in the beginning but after unlocking ||companions|| and learning to insta-kill theseus with calls it becomes insanely easy

just be patient with them and dont feel like you're dying too much to them! every death is a new lection on how to improve :)

[distant night]

but i suck ;-; you would decimate me in seconds ;-;

also idk how parsec works

i have made an account but just dont understand how to continue

[dark lark]

Most of it is over steam remote play

[distant night]

oh tru - dont you have to be friends for tht?

[wild schooner]

that is literally what i am experiencing all over again on my 15 heat attempts

[dark lark]

And I would go easier aon you while trying out teams ive never used before. I dont want to discoruage somone before thye get encouraged to play

[distant night]

tried insta-popping theseus?

[wild schooner]

i don't know how

[distant night]

lol i dont get discouraged i just know i am a bad m8 to fight with so i dont wana bother any of you lmaooooooo

[dark lark]

I am always so bored. Please, if you ever want to play, ping or dm me, and if im open ill play.

[distant night]

get a good call, this works well with aphrodite or artemis, hit mainly him till ultra call is unlocked, wait for him to get angry to stage two, get the ultra call to attack him, boom he gone

[wild schooner]

ah, then you focus on asterius?

[distant night]

yes

asterius is less annoying when theseus is dead, theseus alone tho with gods to help him is more annoying

[wild schooner]

alright! i always wondered why people suggest going for theseus first

[dark lark]

the hades modding serve already had a map of all the values. Lets gooo

[brisk trail]

||companion|| spoilers ||https://streamable.com/51ipdl ||

[dark lark]

exscuse me what

[brisk trail]

idk why the audio quality is so buns

my champions fight usually goes something like that

[wild schooner]

you know, i wish they recorded an orchestral version of hymn to zagreus. im not complaining with what we got on the album though

[distant night]

yeah you can use the ||companions|| to instantly pop theseus too and to then use the ultra call on asterius

[distant night]

omg yes o,o

[brisk trail]

i would usually kill asterius, get Theseus to phase 2 then nuke him

it never occurred to me that I could do both at the same time

[wild schooner]

to be fair, i want an orchestral version of all of the songs

[distant night]

yeah thats usually what is really good int he beginning before your call has a higher epic chancec and before you unlock ||companions||

[brisk trail]

yee

[distant night]

btw! if you use ||mort|| you can also get both theseus and asterius to 50%, close to each other, call on ||than|| and ultra artemis call and almost pop both at the same time

usually what happens with speedrunners in the arena i noticed

[woeful wigeon]

what does it mean when it says "Big Shopping Trip, Too" on my security log?

[brisk trail]

bought a lot of stuff

https://hades.gamepedia.com/Run_Clear_Messages

er

entered each midway shop

[distant night]

i wish that would be in the codex, so you'd actually want to get em all

and that you maybe had a better idea of how to do it without googling :c

[steady crane]

Apollo boons when

[wild schooner]

hellios boons when

[rustic valve]

So for A Friendly Wager, what's the exact condition? Because I've ||fought Charon twice and won both, but it's not fulfilled?||

[dark lark]

There are unused images in the game files for an apollo icon

[steady crane]

oh welp, that's a shame, i would have liked some Apollo boons

[void vigil]

please dont discuss datamined content!

[mint arch]

guys, hades updated me on steam, someone knows what it is? a patch?

[steady crane]

But the game as it is rocks hard so i don't care much about it.

[wild schooner]

@mint arch probably. i think that supergiant is done adding content

[woeful wigeon]

are there only certain people i can give ||ambrosia|| to?

[mint arch]

oke ty

[distant night]

you can give everybody ambrosia but only once you unlocked their last heart(s)

[woeful wigeon]

i gave my husbando, charon, one

[dark lark]

Sorry!

[distant night]

👀

seeing official sgg staff play hades makes me happy

[woeful wigeon]

i love and hate fishing in this game

[left cosmos]

Fishing is EZ 😄

I only don';t get a perfect catch when it is a fish the 2nd going under

There is defintely a system to it

[red tiger]

fishing is pretty easy yeah

[distant night]

hope for the fish to be slow ad only come after the third blob

[left cosmos]

It's like uhh, If the interval is long, the one after can't be a fish

[red tiger]

few times have I ever not caught a fish

[distant night]

almost guaranteed perfect

[left cosmos]

Few times I don't perfect catch 😛

[red tiger]

though I use controller and hover my finger over RB

[distant night]

almost

[left cosmos]

😄

That's a cool dog @distant night

[distant night]

dog?

[left cosmos]

That's a dog right?

[distant night]

my pfp is a scottish fold cat if you mean that

[left cosmos]

oh

I love that picture 😄 Very cute

[brittle rune]

got I love demeters cast

[distant night]

same 😀

[left cosmos]

It can be "cool"

[wild schooner]

huh. so when i have hera bow, it just has trippy flare listed twice, rather than trippy cast and flare

[brittle rune]

beam with glacial glare and arcitc blast and the artemis duo? throw on the auto cast on top of that? and use charon's hjourglass to get more stones for a really long time? AND get that cast damage increase from chaos? AAAAAAAAND get all damage can crit + mark?

[distant night]

yeah i think that was mentioned once or twice?

[wild schooner]

yeah, sorry about that

[distant night]

could be a bug never personally seen it

[brittle rune]

the only way I can play with spear now is just to go full cast and ignore spear

[left cosmos]

That's sick @brittle rune

For bosses the artemis duo is kinda mandatory imo

[distant night]

casts are sick bruh

[brittle rune]

Maybe put on punishing sweep to increase damage

Spear is so weak

[left cosmos]

What spear? LOL

[distant night]

it used to be strong

[brittle rune]

all of them

[left cosmos]

nah not all

[distant night]

but some patch destroyed it :c

[wild schooner]

casts are great. i want to get the hermes legendary which gives my casts back immediately

[distant night]

hermes leg + artemis cast leg 😋

[brittle rune]

I think I might switch to the cooldown cast for lasers though since you can get them to last a WHILE

[wild schooner]

i was very confused when you said leg

hermes leg + hunters blades

[brittle rune]

hermes leg for speed, artemis leg for beauty

Consider the following: Random fated list quests once you finish the whole thing

[faint burrow]

what is the darkness sink after youve maxed mirror? if any

[wild schooner]

trader

[faint burrow]

xd

[distant night]

cosmetics

[wild schooner]

darkness, not gems

[flat vapor]

resource director

[wild schooner]

unless there is something i don't know about

[flat vapor]

it’s the resource director

[distant night]

forgot the theme?

also badges from ressource director are purely cosmetic

so -> cosmetics

[wild schooner]

wait

what theme?

[distant night]

||infinite||

costs ||25k darkness||

[wild schooner]

i am very confused

i may not be that far

[jaunty vapor]

Why are just Alecto and Tis here

[distant night]

ah you get decorative themes from house contractor after you got all the other main stuff out the way since he still wants your attention

if you look in #h1-victory-boasting the pretty borders are the different themes

one of them costs a ton of darkness
and also after i think ||true end|| or ||epilogue|| or somewhere between you get access to father dearest' room with the ressource director who wants alot of darkness from you for ||titles and badges|| that you can also see in #h1-victory-boasting beside the health bar

[wild schooner]

OH, THATS HOW YOU GET THEM!?

[azure tangle]

Does turning on heat mean you no longer run into ||Eurydice and Patroclus||? I have done 4 heat runs in a row and their chambers seem to have disappeared. Or is it just a weird coincidence?

[distant night]

yes :)

[gusty swift]

Man, I'm looking at an old clip and trying to remember how I got this build where it ended up.

[distant night]

no, npc rooms can always appear, depends really on rng

[brittle rune]

bouldy just gave me an... ambiguity bonus? a what?

[wild schooner]

@azure tangle coincidence

[jaunty vapor]

Also another question

[distant night]

look in your codex

[gusty swift]

(Are twitch clips okay to link in here?)

[jaunty vapor]

For Demeter fists would you say Chaos Dash Strike damage or Backstab Damage would be more worth

[azure tangle]

Good to know!

[distant night]

backstab

[gusty swift]

@jaunty vapor Which fists specifically?

[wild schooner]

hmm... i tend to dash around quite a bit so for me, i would say dash

[jaunty vapor]

Demeter

[distant night]

definitively backstab for the bosses

[gusty swift]

I forgot they had a Demeter aspect. Which one is that?

[wild schooner]

12 hit

[gusty swift]

Ah, that one. Yeah, backstab.

[distant night]

12 hit -> extra special hit

[brittle rune]

what? bouldy isn't in the codex

[distant night]

ok one sec i gotta look into it

[gusty swift]

But yeah, are twitch clips okay to link here if they're in context to something?

I'm trying to figure out how I got such a broken early ||Beowulf|| build and if it's still possible.

Cause I've tried redoing it on subsequent runs and I can't seem to get that level of damage.

[carmine ravine]

u can just post the boon screen or reults screen from the admin room

[gusty swift]

Hm, that's true. I'd have to figure which run it was.

Basically I was getting 1900+ combined damage from three Trippy Flares.

[halcyon delta]

Chaos boon?

[merry roost]

Chaos boon and a few poms to trippy flare?

[gusty swift]

I'm sure Chaos had something to do with it but even on subsequent runs with Chaos + Trippy Flare, I've NEVER hit that hard again.

And I was doing this in Tartarus.

[halcyon delta]

I did a similar run earlier but instead of a cast bonus I got a 4th bloodstone

which works about as much

[gusty swift]

The hilarious thing is it forced phase changes on the boss that instantly gave my cast ammo back, so it was just three Trippy Flare barrages and BOOM I won.

[merry roost]

Chaos, trippy flare, and broken shackle while you were in tartarus?

[gusty swift]

I know I had the ||Pom Blossom|| because that's all I started using once I had it.

[merry roost]

...

Trippy flare and shackle don't work together. NEVERMIND 😦

[halcyon delta]

Oh, maybe that one triggered multiple times then, boosting the Trippy Shot

[molten nymph]

highroll from that keepsake maybe

[gusty swift]

I've got a clip of the kill in question, I'm just like 'I WANNA DO THIS AGAIN'

[molten nymph]

then again it should only proc like

[gusty swift]

Because it was kinda hilarious doing nearly 2000 damage in a single burst.

[molten nymph]

3 times

i think a clip should be ok

[gusty swift]

https://www.twitch.tv/retronutcase/clip/FrailAmazonianQuailTBTacoRight <--Murder? Murder. Much Murder. Yes.

[halcyon delta]

Yeowch

[merry roost]

It's level 6, so you got a lot of poms on it

That looks like a lot of fun 😄

[gusty swift]

IT WAS.

You should see what it did to the Heroes.

In fact you can. https://www.twitch.tv/retronutcase/clip/LazyVainGoshawkDatSheffy

[molten nymph]

oh yep its epic trippy shot with pom highroll

[gusty swift]

I know I had at least one Chaos Boon to cast.

[merry roost]

Is it epic? I don't see the purple mark on it.

[gusty swift]

Err, Rare, not Epic.

Epic was on my Dash.

[distant night]

ok i'm very sorry my hades wont start at all so i cant personally check it, according to wiki and such the ambiguity boon gives a random bonus for anything randing from bonus attack damage to extra coins etc? but i actually dont know if thats still true since bouldies boons used to directly say what they give

[gusty swift]

Which..Wasn't a big deal because it was Divine Dash, where Rarity isn't important.

[halcyon delta]

So yeah, my build was really similar to that earlier, but I had enough luck to also get Merciful End as well

[gusty swift]

I still see the effects of Bouldy's boons on my end.

[distant night]

which game version are you on?

[steady crane]

Duuude i bested Thanatos by 34 more kills it was so funny

[gusty swift]

I had my first tie with Thanatos the other night. He's a good sport about it. 😄

[steady crane]

He says something if you tie?

[gusty swift]

Yep, and you still get a Heart.

[steady crane]

Oh neat

[gusty swift]

He also has remarks if you get ALL the kills and he gets none.

[steady crane]

Love the voiced dialogue, makes it much better

[wild schooner]

what if you let him get all the kills?

[gusty swift]

No idea, I've never done that.

25 health is 25 health man.

[steady crane]

"Square the heck up Zagreus"

[gusty swift]

I'm sure he says something though.

[steady crane]

probably, each character seems to have a lot of dialogues

Which is neat

[gusty swift]

Right now I'm trying to figure out which spear I like the best that isn't ||Guan Yu|| since that one is a huge hit to health.

[wild schooner]

i love that a lot of it is determined by many game factors

like i got berated from hermes for losing my win streak

[steady crane]

||I thought Hades would say something if you fight him with the spear||

[halcyon delta]

||Hades|| Spear has done wonders for me

[gusty swift]

Oh man, losing my 30 Streak hurt so bad.

[halcyon delta]

Oh he most certainly does

[gusty swift]

@halcyon delta That's the one I'm trying actually.

[steady crane]

He does?

[wild schooner]

he does

[gusty swift]

Mostly liking it, I think I just don't have a good feel for it yet.

[steady crane]

He didn't say anything to me when i did

The aspects might change it?

[gusty swift]

It seems like building around the special is kinda tricky though unless you get the right stuff for it, like multiple Chaos Special Boons and a good Boon overall.

Even when I got the Ricochet Throw (hit up to 7 enemies) I was still mostly using the Attack.

[wild schooner]

its random when he says it @steady crane i believe

[halcyon delta]

I don't like the Spear special much, unless I get lucky and am able to buff it with a good boon or Chaos

[steady crane]

Oh alright, so it doesn't has to do with the spear aspect?

[halcyon delta]

Most runs I barely use it at all

[wild schooner]

oh, he will still say stuff specifically based off the aspect too

[gusty swift]

I admit I've got a pretty heavy preference towards specific aspects. Like, I almost use Hestia exclusively on the Rail.

Because dat reload damage.

[distant night]

thats ok tho and intended

everybody has their preferences

[steady crane]

I try to test every aspect the game has to offer

[gusty swift]

Even after upgrading the second one (stand in your special's explosion for a buff), it's still not doing much for me.

[steady crane]

as of now i'm doing an ||Achilles|| run

[gusty swift]

Honestly the only time I tend to like the Rail special is if I get the Rocket Launcher effect from hammer.

[steady crane]

going great so far, doom on special and hangover on attack

[gusty swift]

One of these days I want to do a Chiron Bow run where I get stacking Doom on my Special.

[steady crane]

Yesterday i did a ||Zeus|| shield run that was insane

[gusty swift]

I still need to upgrade that shield.

[steady crane]

i got a lighting boon on the special and that thing would just decimate all

plus chill on attack

[gusty swift]

I haven't had a good Lightning Rod run in awhile, makes me sad. I LOVE Lightning Rod.

[steady crane]

what was lightning rod? i don't remember much boons by names

[gusty swift]

Lightning Rod is Artemis + Zeus Duo. When your Casts are sitting out in the open (After they pop out of an enemy or hit a wall), they strike the area around them with lightning repeatedly.

[steady crane]

yoo that sounds awesome

[faint burrow]

wait till you discover zeus shield with merciful end

[eager path]

Who is the hardest boss in hades?

please tell me it is ||Theseus and the Minotaur ||

They are a struggle

to beat

[faint burrow]

uh

depends on your build

[rough apex]

They gave me more trouble than the final boss when I was learning

[distant night]

||tiny vermin||

[faint burrow]

ive killed both T+M in under 45 seconds before, ive also had to spend 10 minutes doing it

[distant night]

jk, ||charon kicks ass||

[untold granite]

why does thunder flourish (special bolt) proc multiple times on one target with charon bow, but only once with Rama?

[steady crane]

||I just fought him on my crazy blitz disc build but i could tell from that battle that rat IS one hell of a bastard||

[wild schooner]

y'all don't even know the struggle of the ||dusa fight||

[distant night]

😂

[steady crane]

||Wait, dusa has a fight? or i'm being bamboozled?||

[wild schooner]

||nah, im bamboozling ya||

[distant night]

"one hell of a bastard" you put it into perfect words my dear 😂

[eager path]

Isnt there one in Asphodel tho?

[distant night]

tbf ||mega-gorgon with the skullcrusher on MM can be hard as all balls||

[eager path]

Yea that's what I am talking about

[distant night]

haha jinx

[steady crane]

||Demeter Theseus|| scares me.

[eager path]

I dont like that thing tbh. Sometimes it can be hard to avoid during that fight

[wild schooner]

@distant night now im scared

[distant night]

of what

[distant night]

POP HIM

POP HIM IMMEDIATELY

[wild schooner]

of ||mega gorgon||

[distant night]

JUST ULTRA CALL THAT BRO AND DONT EVEN TRY TO FIGHT

[distant night]

the wrong build can make that fight harder than necessary ||and forgetting what powers the two gain from MM|| just be dash-confident

[faint burrow]

lightning bolt on igenous rail is so good lol

self detonation 😮

[steady crane]

You know, Athena might have made that combat easier if i had her call that time

[distant night]

;-;

[faint burrow]

wait if you are using the Igneous rail can you no longer get Delta Chamber?

[distant night]

artemis call has my back with theseus ;-;

even ||em3||

||em3|| is really easy if you learn to just ignore asterius

[steady crane]

Ok, so i'm afraid to find out by myself, ||what new moves does Hydra gets when you use that heat option which i forgot it's name?||

[wild schooner]

||nothing||

[steady crane]

||Nothing?||

[distant night]

yes something

[wild schooner]

its technically not new moves

[distant night]

||the plattform is destroyed|| ||magma everywhere|| ||also lernie can UNATTACH THE NECC AND ATTACK ANYWHERE :D||

there is one new move

[wild schooner]

oh?

[distant night]

the 3rd spoiler

[wild schooner]

i guess, yeah

[steady crane]

||WDYM THE PLATFORM IS DESTROYED?||

||WHERE DO I STAND???||

[wild schooner]

i didn't realize that ||it was the same platform||

@steady crane ||its cracked appart. i can send a screenshot if you would like||

[distant night]

||its not one whole plattform but i think 3-4 little ones||

[steady crane]

OH

Oh alright

[distant night]

||it's also a bit closer together so it's faster but also more likely to get hit by a headsmash||

[steady crane]

||Thought you meant ALL of the stage is magma||

[faint burrow]

can i turn off spoilers some how

its annoying clicking everyones message

[wild schooner]

text and images in your discord settings

[eager path]

Wait really

[wild schooner]

yeah

[faint burrow]

solved

[distant night]

btw dont be scared, ||em2 hydra is actually pretty easy you just have to get used to the new size, everything else stays the same and the smaller map makes the fight go faster, very good for speedrunning||

[steady crane]

||wait, the hydra gets bigger?||

[distant night]

||no the map gets smaller||

it's just optical illusion

[steady crane]

||oh so technically it's bigger by the stage being smaller ||

[distant night]

if you look in comparison of zag's size to the heads, they are the same as before

||the smaller plattform just takes away those neat hiding and safespots ont he original plattform which makes the fight technically harder since there is less safe space ;-;||

[wild schooner]

i will say, ||i could not believe em3 thesius||

[distant night]

HAHAHA

he is great

perfect bullying material

[wild schooner]

it suits him so well

also that

[distant night]

😂

[wild schooner]

do you even need to pop him?

[distant night]

||gold for the golden boi||

yes

it makes ||running from asterius|| infinitely easier

[steady crane]

||I don't want to think what EM Hades even is||

[distant night]

since thesius ||damages you if you accidentally get in his way||

[distant night]

:)))))))) pain

[steady crane]

i supposed so

[wild schooner]

i have heard

[distant night]

BUT artemis makes ||em4|| infinitely easier

since there is a stage in ||hades|| combat where you ||cant see the map, it's shrouded in darkness so you easily lose sight of hades, with artemis call or cast or following arrows you find him easier|| and he ||gets less chance to heal himself during that :DDDDDDDD||

[merry roost]

||Using headphones helps with that too, the sound is directional||

[steady crane]

||Not game related but is it offensive language if i say flustercuck?||

[distant night]

if you have stereo-sound, yes

or use sound...

[merry roost]

lol

[distant night]

some play this game with everything off ;-;

[wild schooner]

that just seems wrong

[distant night]

imagine not hearing eurydice sing when you enter her room ;-;

[wild schooner]

I KNOW

OR ORPHEUS

[distant night]

or not hearing than's lovely smooth voice 😭

btw petition for chris saphire to get more voicelines and get at least one line in every game ever

i was so happy to hear him in pyre ;_;

[wild schooner]

i... still really want to play pyre. its very hard for me to keep up with the story though

[distant night]

yeah the story is intense

playing it through once focussing on the game and once only for story really helps

[wild schooner]

oh yeah, there's no penalty for losing, right?

[distant night]

cause in the first playthrough you get to mainly know the characters and understand the gamemechanics better and in the second one your already little bit of character knowledge can be focussed on actually deepen your understanding of the story :)

not really, only in the liberating rites

[steady crane]

||HOW DO I GET ORPHEUS TO SING||

[distant night]

(also you gotta kick manley and barker down, you just gotta)

[steady crane]

||HE'S JUST THERE, DECORATING THE AMBIENCE||

[distant night]

get his favor done

once you invest enough nectar into him and eurydice you will get to forward their story

[wild schooner]

oh, sorry

[distant night]

afterwards he might still be silent but less likely to

[steady crane]

oh i see

nectar and ambrosia spamming it is

[wild schooner]

i think my point got across well enough though

[distant night]

(also playing some songs in the music thingy next to him after getting his story done ||actually gets them to sing different songs????? i was screeching??????????||)

[wild schooner]

i... do not like manley

[distant night]

understandable

he is good in versusmode tho

his character is just theseus on another level 😂

[wild schooner]

its theseus, if he were a criminal

[distant night]

😂

and if fighting you in elysium got him anything

since manley gets the chance to actually be some high and mighty minister or something if he wins against you, thesius is just.... loud

[wild schooner]

speaking of thesius, im off to go die to him again

[distant night]

D:

pop him

[wild schooner]

i'll try

[distant night]

for the fan!

[wild schooner]

is triple shot explosive good?

[steady crane]

what was that? an upgrade for the ||gun||?

[wild schooner]

nah, its bow

[real edge]

I love Logan's voice 🥺

[faint burrow]

im tempted to gamble on the anvil but i dont wanna lose my infinite chamber

[wild schooner]

i already have explosive, but are triple shot good?

@real edge im pretty sure everyone does

[real edge]

its just soooo diverse

his voice lines as Charon are on point

[wild schooner]

i legitimately can't tell if you're joking or not, because they are. but i would hardly call them voice lines

wait

no

[faint burrow]

ok i have triple infinite Beam and special with knockback on beam gg

[wild schooner]

ignore what i said

[real edge]

yessir

[jaunty vapor]

Damn that run was insane

[faint burrow]

wopw i had hades on 10% with my op build and got double hit by skeleton hands plus aoe

fk me

[real edge]

Rip 😔

[wild schooner]

spoilers please

[scarlet perch]

i got a legendary boon as my first boon

but it sucks

[wild schooner]

was it Poseidon's?

[scarlet perch]

you got it

[wild schooner]

yeah, its a scripted one

[exotic furnace]

total badass :P

[scarlet perch]

what

i thought i was special

[wild schooner]

no, everyone gets the fish one

[green maple]

Fish LMAO

[scarlet perch]

its decent

[green maple]

The moment when you feel like you broke the game

[scarlet perch]

at most

[green maple]

But its just poseidon giving you a show

[exotic furnace]

poseidon is a cool dude, i wish his boons were better

[red tiger]

The spear used to be my favorite weapon.

Times have indeed changed.

[exotic furnace]

mine too

[red tiger]

Never thought I'd prefer the BOW over my favorite spear

[wild schooner]

FEESH

[exotic furnace]

used to be

[green maple]

Pose's boons are quite cool

[wild schooner]

whats wrong with bow?!

[red tiger]

Slow

[exotic furnace]

i have to try chiron's aspect, otherwise it just does way too low dps

[wild schooner]

not the way i use it

[exotic furnace]

but that needs some titan blood first

[red tiger]

how could you make it faster lol

[wild schooner]

honestly, bow is one of my favs

[exotic furnace]

how do you get high dps with the bow? (i dont have the hidden aspect)

[wild schooner]

hera

[real edge]

i love bow

[red tiger]

hidden aspect doesn't help either

[real edge]

chiron aspect lightning crit build

or grapegod

[wild schooner]

i love hera dio, or hera ares

[exotic furnace]

hmm

hera is interesting

[wild schooner]

hunters blades with hera just turns into a blender

[green maple]

Dio hera be so cool tbh

[exotic furnace]

its also nice with the mirror upgrade that does something when you have a cast in someone

[green maple]

Especially when festive pogfog gets a high rarity and level

[red tiger]

this damn spear is going to break my streak of 10 😦

[exotic furnace]

why is ares good with hera?

do the blades do a lot of damage?

id think aphro would be good with it, because her cast hits hard

[winter harbor]

Easier to aim the blades, is my guess

[distant night]

hunter blades with hera really is spicy

[wild schooner]

aphro is good too, as i've heard, but hunters blades gets homing on enemies

[scarlet perch]

thank you game for having meg stand on a trap when i had 400% trap damage

[exotic furnace]

does the cast just explode on impact?

[scarlet perch]

very cool

[exotic furnace]

because if so, you dont need to aim it

[wild schooner]

which one?

[exotic furnace]

just any cast

if the cast is loaded into the arrow, you dont need to aim it right?

unless you wanna land it in a specific spot i guess?

[brisk trail]

the cast does damage after the arrow hits something

or at the end of its path

[exotic furnace]

wait i think im just dumb

[distant night]

phanlax shot with hera works weirdly

[exotic furnace]

i thought the arrows had auto aim for some reason

but you still need to aim

[distant night]

you can activate auto aim

[exotic furnace]

yeah

[distant night]

and it can softly lock onto targets even with autoaim off? but i'm not sure about that

[exotic furnace]

on an unrelated note, is it normal that i pick most of my boons based on how much itll help me defeat the final boss?

because i feel like thats the hardest part by far

[dark lark]

The flame wheel realse is actually a thing. Didnt know that was added lol

[exotic furnace]

boons and chamber rewards*

[red tiger]

#h1-victory-boasting THE SPEAR DIDNT END MY STREAK

YEAAAAH

[exotic furnace]

nice 10 win streak?

[dark lark]

Nice

[red tiger]

11 now

[dark lark]

Wow

[distant night]

spear really lost the game with that one patch after 1.0 ;-;

[exotic furnace]

i beat the game with the spear with almost no mirror upgrades on my friend's account

its the easiest weapon to win with for me

just stand back and mash square

and dodge

but the fact that you can stand back and just stunlock enemies without worrying is really nice. especially with the hammer upgrade that gives extra range

[rose ibex]

bruh I just fought charon and lost my run because of it

[exotic furnace]

gnghrhhghghg

[distant night]

yeah he tends to do that :)

[rose ibex]

I didnt know he was that hard

I think he is harder than hades

[exotic furnace]

hes not that hard

[distant night]

he isnt, you can just get really unlucky

he just does good damage and his next attack indicators look pretty similar

[rose ibex]

bruh, just in the run that I was going to kill hades for the 10th time

[exotic furnace]

please spoiler tag the final boss' name

[distant night]

i have killed ||father dearest|| over 80 times and still lose to charon

[rose ibex]

sorry

[exotic furnace]

lol

[distant night]

it's just a very ambiguous fight

[rose ibex]

but I thought that was obvious but whatever

[red tiger]

I thought it was obvious too lol

I'll never understand how the final boss was ever supposed to be a surprise

but others think its a spoiler so I respect them and put the tag on

[exotic furnace]

i didnt even consider it

i think if someone is scared of spoilers, they should stay the hell away from here :P

i didnt even join this discord until i was like 50 hours into it

[distant night]

i was too worried that i'd have to fight cerberus to consider another final boss

[exotic furnace]

and i still dont like to spend too much time here

[rose ibex]

with how many hours did you reach the finale?

[distant night]

i counted all the diamonds needed under this message @lone kernel

[steady crane]

It's kinda insane that you can ||vanquish an actual god||

[exotic furnace]

i didnt reach the epilogue yet

the first ending i dont remember..

[distant night]

you are a god :)

[exotic furnace]

but probably like 50-70

[steady crane]

oh yeah right

[exotic furnace]

i died a lot

[steady crane]

forgot about that part

[rose ibex]

how do I mark something as a spoiler?

[distant night]

|| on both sides

[exotic furnace]

||ye||

lol

[rose ibex]

I dont know how to do that

[real edge]

||aspect of beowulf is cracked fr||

[rose ibex]

|j|

| j |

[somber quest]

double |

[distant night]

yeah, double the lines

[rose ibex]

oh

[distant night]

two on both sides

[rose ibex]

|| ah ||

[distant night]

||nice||

[brisk trail]

||gamer||

[wild schooner]

||moment||

[rose ibex]

so the epilogue is not || killing hades ten times? ||

[distant night]

:O

[exotic furnace]

||everyone is doing spoilers||

[distant night]

no thats the ||true end||

[exotic furnace]

i actually wish i didnt know about the epilogue

[wild schooner]

||Dumbledore dies||

[exotic furnace]

it wouldve been a surprise

and i id get everyones favors just for fun

[rose ibex]

I dont know about the epilogue

[distant night]

well if you're on steam you have the achievement always right there

[real edge]

yessir

[distant night]

so you always kinda know there is something

[exotic furnace]

not even sure if getting everyones favor creates the epilogue

thats why i never looked at the achievements

[real edge]

I just got a sub 20 run with shield :)

[brisk trail]

i wouldnt even know that there was an epilogue if not for the steam achievement

[distant night]

just once you get ||mother's|| first quest it might get obvious

[brisk trail]

so i got something to work towards

[wild schooner]

@real edge nice!

[exotic furnace]

yeah but there it just looks like a normal prophecy

[distant night]

epilogue could be a nice secret achievement

that reminds me, hades is really lacking secret achievements :c

[distant night]

what do you mean with "normal"?

it progresses the main story other than the other prophecies that only do side stuff

it's pretty obvious that it's main story related because it comes from ||mom||

[exotic furnace]

eh

maybe, but i definitely wouldnt have guessed it was that major

[real edge]

I just wish that I could ||sit down like damn||

[distant night]

hades wont let you

multiple times when you try to sit down he be like "not on my watch" lol

[real edge]

not even in my damn room

[exotic furnace]

lol

i smell a spoiler

my spidey sense is tingling

[distant night]

those fluffy pillows would need to be replaced so often xD

[exotic furnace]

someone is gonna say that either you never get to sit down, or in some special event you can sit down

[brisk trail]

hed burn a hole through his blanket

[distant night]

tru

always forget he is hot on his heels .-.

[steady crane]

wait, there are multiple endings in this game?

[real edge]

uh

[distant night]

depends on what you call "ending" lol

it's not like in a visual novel if you mean those kinds of endings

[steady crane]

are the endings as if you can get them but then keep playing and get the other endings

Or it's just one ending (but you still can keep playin)?

[exotic furnace]

i want an ending where you get to meet aphro "in the flesh"

emphasis on flesh

[steady crane]

I wouldn't like to meet someone who tries to kill me if i don't choose her blessing

[distant night]

calm your horny

[steady crane]

so no thank you

[flat vapor]

there's an ending and an epilogue, and then basically free play

[distant night]

there are two main endings for the main plot and of course side endings for the side plots

[steady crane]

Is there an ending where we get Dusa some vacations smh

[exotic furnace]

she calms down afterwards so its okay

[distant night]

bro i WISH

even the house contractor gets to go on vacation!

[winter harbor]

Dusa is married to the job

[steady crane]

Screw House Contractor

He doesn't talks to me

[distant night]

nyx is pretty harsh on her :c

[faint burrow]

max dashes is insane

is cute

[distant night]

amen brother

[exotic furnace]

yee

[faint burrow]

also my final chamber was #69

[distant night]

sad there are no 666 chambers

or at least 6 stages

[steady crane]

Same

[steady crane]

First person who i gifted six nectars

Next one is Skelly

Skelly is a homie

[distant night]

why not cerberus

[steady crane]

Cerberus too

[distant night]

cerberus is best boi

[steady crane]

too many homies smhhhhhh

[distant night]

who wouldnt you want to give your nectar to?

[steady crane]

Theseus

[distant night]

like of all that are currently possible?

hahaha luckly you cant and dont have to

[steady crane]

Asterius tho

[faint burrow]

what does having a bond with a character do for their keepsake

if anything

[real edge]

aesthetic

[steady crane]

It's only useful in the first gift i think

Then it's just an act of wholesomeness

[real edge]

well

[distant night]

aesthetic and special message of luv

[real edge]

Im doing a drunk run

[steady crane]

I FORGOT
TO SAVE A NECTAR FOR SKELLY

DAMN

[distant night]

snowflakes as big as a toddlers fist are falling from the sky, it is demeter's time to shine brothers 😎

[steady crane]

Can you die by trying to visit Chaos with HP at 22 or lower?

And does Hypnos or Chaos say something if you die like that?

[zealous spade]

No, it doesn't let you go through the gate

[steady crane]

oh alright

it'd be funny if you could

[steady crane]

||WAIT, HADES JUST LET ME GO||

[halcyon delta]

Grats

[steady crane]

||Funny how in the run where i think i'm going to get killed because of wrong choices and lack of death defiances, he just allows me to move on||

[severe flare]

You've come closer to the epilogue

[steady crane]

||So now Hades wants me to keep escaping to show security flaws on hell, but he'll still try to kick my ass||

[molten nymph]

its ||father-son bonding||

[severe flare]

Keep giving him Nectar. You'll see the benefits.

[steady crane]

||oh yeah, now i can finally spam nectar on him right?||

[severe flare]

Don't worry. He'll || return all 5 Nectar|| to you

Yes

[pliant sparrow]

||nah dont hes a bad father with an even worse keepsake||

[severe flare]

At max, he allows you to || use Companions against him ||

[pliant sparrow]

||classic child abuse case smh||

[severe flare]

Poor Zag

[brave dove]

which are the best keepsakes?

other than the legendary ones

[red tiger]

There is no "best" keepsake

[brave dove]

oh

[red tiger]

It entirely depends on your build

Though I often don't go a run without using the acorn once. Unless I'm doing a butterfly/plume of course

[winter harbor]

I usually use the acorn in the last biome

[red tiger]

I always used skelly's lucky tooth for every level when first starting out though.

now its a waste because I often get through many of the biomes without having to use a defiance

acorn is def better than tooth for last biome too

[winter harbor]

I was like that with collar at first too\

It gives you more hp than tooth if you still have 3 DDs left

Altho I suppose tooth can buffer overkill

[red tiger]

Except for the time I wanted to fulfill a prophecy of clearing with all nyx mirror perks so I used stubborn defiance instead with tooth

[frosty hinge]

is there objectively better weapons or is it all playstyle? Still trying to figure out what weapon I like.

[red tiger]

Just whatever you find you're best at

[brisk trail]

Rail has the speedrun WR in the current patch, but every weapon is roughly equally strong.

[brave dove]

wait rail has the highest speedrun wr?

[winter harbor]

They just nerfed eris rail

so that may change

[brisk trail]

For this patch.

[frosty hinge]

im liking the shields the most rn

[steady crane]

I mean, it fits

It's a damn assault rifle

[brave dove]

tru

[winter harbor]

Yeah, it's clearly anachronistic

And the gods are scared of Zag revealing the secrets of gun to the surface

[red tiger]

reminds me of the executioner from thor comics

aw I forgot I cant post it here cuz I cant post images

https://i.imgur.com/dn0TQF0.jpg

[steady crane]

woah there melon

anyways

What's the World Record Speedrun of killing Skelly?

[brave dove]

i love the hammer enchant that makes it so your sword heals u for 2 hp everytime u hit an attack

like i start an encounter with 75 hp and end it with full

[slim grail]

I keep having a hard time with the gun. Anyone having trouble with it?

[brisk trail]

Whose boons are you typically focusing on when using the Rail?

[opaque heron]

It’s definitely a different feeling weapon

[brisk trail]

Each weapon is stronger with different Olympians.

[winter harbor]

Now that just raises the question if you could get away only using the mirror and chaos boons

[brisk trail]

Oh, boonless runs happen all the time.

[winter harbor]

(mirror for Nyx's 'boons', chaos because they're more primordial compared to the Olympians)

[brisk trail]

People actually skip on even Chaos.

They just run on naturally powerful Aspects like Hestia and use Hammers and Keepsakes.

[rare oasis]

Any advice for surviving rats and poison at the top level before you face Hades? I lose like all my health up there.

[dry veldt]

there's a hammer im running right now that gives Exagryph infinite ammo and a three-shot burst, it's making it really easy

[winter harbor]

Broken spearpoint helps with the poison

[dry veldt]

otherwise you just have to keep your distance

[brisk trail]

Broken Spearpoint prevents you from taking poison damage for the first 1.5 seconds at max level, but be warned that when your invulnerability runs out the poison damage will tick at the rate it would have without the Keepsake.

So it will start out at 2 or 3 damage per tick.

[winter harbor]

Yes, but hopefully you found an antidote pool by then

[brisk trail]

Or maybe I'm thinking of magma.

Delta Chamber is amazing.

[rare oasis]

I mean there is so much poison that you cannot stand anywhere it seems like.

[brisk trail]

Sometimes.

Styx is super claustrophobic.

[rare oasis]

Hahaha

[winter harbor]

Poseidon excels in styx

[dry veldt]

Sometimes is an understatement

[winter harbor]

Small rooms are very good for knockback

[brisk trail]

There are times when you'll want to pull back and wait for enemies to come to you.

[dry veldt]

Makes stunlock with the spear and the fists super easy

[rare oasis]

I think I’m rushing up there cuz I’m close to Hades

[dry veldt]

Hey no spoilers
You gotta call him "da man"

[chilly slate]

big boi

[rare oasis]

Pardon me 😋

[chilly slate]

big casts work well too, i've had good luck with slicing shot

[rare oasis]

I do appreciate the help!

[chilly slate]

and phalanx cast

[dry veldt]

Using the trippy shot rn, it's probably good for it too

[rare oasis]

I discovered laser beams today and the game was so easy (at least, certain encounters)

[dry veldt]

Laser beams?

What am I missing?

[brisk trail]

Crystal Beam.

Demeter's Cast.

[rare oasis]

Lol sorry noob

[chilly slate]

the winter mama cast?

[dry veldt]

Is that Demeters?

Ohhh

It is

Oke

[chilly slate]

that duo with artemis is the best

i just drop all my ice and let it run

[rare oasis]

Ya chill is fantastic

[dry veldt]

Ares and Aphrodite have one where weakened enemies who become doomed take constant damage from it

[rare oasis]

Esp with fast moving enemies as you go higher up

[dry veldt]

It's insane

Crushed with Coranacht and that

[rare oasis]

I haven’t been this addicted to a game in ages.

[dry veldt]

It's hella fun, been streaming it to a couple friends on discord and might have sold a couple more copies 😳

[chilly slate]

it's great cause some friends i can market to as a pansexual dating sim

and others i can be like well it's a well designed roguelike

and it's a fishing game for the rest

[dry veldt]

One steam review said "bisexuals will love this"
And they're not wrong

[winter harbor]

Also those who read Song of Achilles

[dry veldt]

[winter harbor]

and those who enjoyed Hadestown

[dry veldt]

I've heard it's really good, have not had the pleasure of watching it unfortunately

[winter harbor]

Basically, if you've enjoyed any Greek mythology based media within the past few years, I think you'll enjoy the story

[dry veldt]

Everyone else will enjoy the fishing

[chilly slate]

i haven't consumed greek mythology related media since PJaTO and i gotta catch up

[winter harbor]

The waiting list for Song of Achilles is so long at all of the libraries I have access to

[chilly slate]

can confirm bisexual who loves this

[winter harbor]

The waitlist is like 6 months long

I heard Hadestown was really good and I do like listening to a few of the songs

[chilly slate]

yeah all the books i'm interested at my library are minimum 3 weeks

is it a musical?

[dry veldt]

Dusa's so cute
The "girl has massive crush on guy but guy is too aloof" is my favorite trope aaaaaaa

[winter harbor]

Yep, but sadly it had to shut due to pandemic 😦

[chilly slate]

i wouldn't call zag aloof

maybe single-minded?

but not really

[winter harbor]

Yeah, Zag is warm and personable

[rare oasis]

What is Zag’s sexual preference?

[chilly slate]

he's distracted

lol

[dry veldt]

It was more like "he doesn't realize she's crushing on him"

[chilly slate]

i mean he's a greek god, so

[winter harbor]

Looking at him, you'd think he was your typical angsty guy, and while he is angsty, he's much more friendlier

[chilly slate]

most beings with a will are a go

[dry veldt]

Yes

Only problem I see with not being able to get out and go to Olympus is that my straight ass can't make zag prefer Aphrodite

[rare oasis]

Hypnos is very gay. Death is a player to he sure.

[winter harbor]

wdym? Zag has a poster of Aphrodite on his walls, I think it's safe to say he's also attracted to her and wants to hang out with her

[dry veldt]

Thanatos would totally go out with zag but he doesn't want to piss off hades

[rare oasis]

Who wouldn’t?

[dry veldt]

I NEED TO BUY IT CRAP

I'm short gemstones

[chilly slate]

i'm endgame and just farming gems to get all the upgrades

[winter harbor]

Right, you need to get Aphro like 2 or 3 nectar first before it shows up as an option

[chilly slate]

wait why would your straight ass not be able to prefer aphrodite

[dry veldt]

Because she's in Olympus and I'm in hell

[rare oasis]

Haha

[chilly slate]

can i make it any more obvious?

[dry veldt]

Can't get jiggy if you know what i mean ;)

[chilly slate]

i think his relationship with most of the olympians is familial tho

[rare oasis]

What boons do you all prefer for sword?

[chilly slate]

it depends on which daedalus upgrades you pick up

[dry veldt]

Weak and deflect imo

I'm at point blank range, I would not like damage please

[vast cypress]

What sword?

[rare oasis]

I’ve been using the daedalus special that either expands special range and/or doubles it. I feel like I get farther with that then the d upgrade to attack that causes your attack speed to increase significantly. I suppose what I’m trying to ask is do you all have a suggested resource that maps out good builds?

[vast cypress]

For zag and nemesis you want to prioritize attack

And be dash striking all the time

[chilly slate]

honestly i think the best way to play is to experiment and find out which combos "feel" good to you, i think that's the most fun

[dry veldt]

Dash strike on stygius is super strong, it should be prioritized

[vast cypress]

Specialing to bridge the gap b/w dash cool downa

[dry veldt]

I used a lot of dash strike just on base and got out just fine

[rare oasis]

Interesting thanks. And I agree that playing be learning the boons naturally is indeed fun.

[dry veldt]

Hermes dash upgrades would be good too

[vast cypress]

Yup, more dash strikes

[rare oasis]

I think I haven’t been dash striking enough. Thanks!