Good choice
#h1-discussion
valid citrus
bleak crag
i didn't see her name or talking 
manic bobcat
Or, god forbids, DOOM Eternal
narrow hemlock
most of supergiant staff doesnt really engage casual discussion
rapid forum
dodge into it
bleak crag
ohh 
manic bobcat
dodge where no one had dodged before
brisk trail
the jumping chop hits earlier than youd think
narrow hemlock
they'll pop in here and there as needed
rancid ember
dodge into it
Yeah that's what I meant. I mean to do that but it doesn't... end up working out XD
valid citrus
Always dogde into attacks
manic bobcat
Aggy is nice. They pops in sometimes.
narrow hemlock
fox are you sucking up lol
manic bobcat
😉
brisk trail
dodging through projectiles is the best thing I learned from gungeon
narrow hemlock
snrk
bleak crag
how do you even unlock aspect of A*?
manic bobcat
Imagine Divine Dash in Gungeon
rapid forum
training Iframe in MHW finally pays off in hades 
valid citrus
We could use more iframes irl
brisk trail
does it
bleak crag
i already unlocked 3 of my weapons but somehow my sword isn't unlocking aspect of a***r
brisk trail
||unlock aspect of guan yu, have at least 5 Titan blood invested in stygius, then wait for nyx to give you the waking phrase|| @delcorune
winter harbor
i've played other roguelites but they usually give you more time for thinking
bleak crag
hmm i see..
brisk trail
wait as in do runs
manic bobcat
i already unlocked 3 of my weapons but somehow my sword isn't unlocking aspect o...
Check the pins in #h1-story-discussion maybe? In case you missed some requirements?
bleak crag
i think i need to keep doing more runs haha
manic bobcat
training Iframe in MHW finally pays off in hades <:dusa:522248771409543188>
what mhw?
bleak crag
i've maxed my aspect of zagreus and the 2nd one
rapid forum
Monster Hunter World
brisk trail
monster hunter world
zag sword is funny
I feel like I'm the only one who legit likes it lol
rapid forum
I used to like it
bleak crag
i like it 
rapid forum
then poseidon sword hit me
north pier
zag sword is great, arthur is best
bleak crag
after beat the 32 aspect, i will change my escape weapon :v
winter harbor
I used to struggle with sword, then hidden aspect made it ez
manic bobcat
twin fists is fun
brisk trail
oh yeah uncle sword is stupid good I fished for exit wounds and got like 9 wins in a row with it
winter harbor
I like melee weapons
rapid forum
but then achilles spear hit me
winter harbor
I still haven't won with a cast-centered build but i'm working on casting more
rapid forum
it is
north pier
so you don't take damage
rapid forum
the set up for achilles spear is a bit annoying
north pier
sword requires you to tank a lot of damage
rapid forum
but the damage you get from it is too much to pass up
brisk trail
my wins screen is so funny its 11 sword wins with 1 shield and 1 fists win
valid citrus
If I wanna win I just pick guan yu or eris
winter harbor
I've won once with each weapon but I've only won once with bow
I struggle to much with bow
brisk trail
winning with bow will be the death of me
north pier
yeah spear is easy win, talos fist, etc
rapid forum
I don't know which weapon I like the most, I play all of them and I like all of them
rancid ember
What casts are actually good anyway? I don't like Zeus, Dio's does a ton of damage but doesn't lodge the crystal, I don't like Demeter's, I'm not super a fan of Aphrodite's... I like Artemis, and Athena's is okay.
winter harbor
funnily enough, my only bow win, I was planning on cheesing it with poseidon dash, but then I rolled aphrodite, and her attack is fairly strong on bow
brisk trail
Artemis cast is stupid
north pier
zeus cast is pretty good
valid citrus
I for cast builds I use dio
upper carbon
lightining rod is awesome
north pier
zeus cast is prooooobably the best one
brisk trail
all of them are good/usable except for aphrodites imo
rancid ember
Zeus cast is good? Really? I guess it's better than base cast but I don't like that it doesn't lodge in the first target
winter harbor
and I was trying to do something with the special before but even with doom, it's hard to win using only special on zag bow
upper carbon
dio cast + shield hidden aspect
manic bobcat
Zeus cast is good? Really? I guess it's better than base cast but I don't like t...
It can be with certain settings.
upper carbon
i can do upwards of 2.4k dmg
manic bobcat
Electric Shot + Achilles can be quite strong
north pier
zeus cast bounces- it's really insanely good
valid citrus
Dio+Demeter is easy to use nuking
brisk trail
first time I got a backstab crit with the hidden sword aspect my jaw dropped
north pier
yeah chunking bosses for 1.5k feels so good
rapid forum
tbh, dio's cast is really good but a pain to set up. If you got the dio + demeter duo, dio + zeus duo, and hermes's back to back cast boon, it deals a lot of damage just nuking everyone
north pier
aruthur is god tier
upper carbon
i posted the dmg numbers in the last fight in victory boasting
valid citrus
I just never get the hate for horse boi. Sure stone boi is free with extra health but the sustain from horse boi is so OP 😩
upper carbon
Hidden aspect names are spoilers
manic bobcat
I mean nothing is free once you go high enough for heat.
valid citrus
Fixed it
upper carbon
yup
valid citrus
Wait... I might have played too much Smite... Does he even have a horse normally 🤔
upper carbon
well does a mechanical gun horse count ?
rapid forum
quick google says yes, he has horses for his chariot
valid citrus
Counts then
manic bobcat
valid citrus
He'll stay horse boi
rancid ember
...who the heck is horse boi? Is stone boi Sisyphus? Sisy's companion?
valid citrus
Nah talking hidden aspects
manic bobcat
still, who is horse boi?
winter harbor
Bouldy best pet rock a man could ask for
upper carbon
i was talking about both the weapon and EM theseus
valid citrus
The one who famously does something involving his weapon and some stone? XD
upper carbon
prolly involes a lake too and some lady
valid citrus
Shhh
brisk trail
also hallowed bars maybe
winter harbor
i don't know about you guys, but i don't think we should let strange women from lakes dictate our government
manic bobcat
The one who famously does something involving his weapon and some stone? XD
erm David and Goliath???
carmine ravine
cmon guys, its clearly ||peter pan||
rancid ember
Wasn't Chiron a centaur? If we're talking aspect I'd think him
valid citrus
We don't involve the lady in these parts
rapid forum
according to the myth, he was a centaur
rapid forum
welp, no judge here
carmine ravine
more like saint seiya fan
radiant estuary
Chiron's a centaur
manic bobcat
I still have no idea why it's almost always 7:48 in game.
rapid forum
okay dudes and dudette, I'm gonna get a legendary boon
radiant estuary
Rule of funny
rapid forum
and I'm gonna sell it
carmine ravine
coz time is irrelevant
winter harbor
because that's the time ixion's light shows it as
rapid forum
ttyl
carmine ravine
u break them
manic bobcat
if the sun breaks, a sundial wouls also break
winter harbor
that is why apollo is absent
carmine ravine
the spoopy triangle broken, sundial break
valid citrus
You get some big muscular fiends and carry it to a different place -> broken
manic bobcat
if the weights in zag room are so heavy they can't be moved,
who would them there?
are the contractors that strong?
winter harbor
daedalus did it
valid citrus
There's a reason you don't see his upper body
carmine ravine
they can appear anywhere at will so
carmine ravine
thats like saying, does the contractor rebuild the house parts in a blink of an eye
rancid ember
Daedalus: Forced no damage run boss. If he hits you he burns through all of your death defiances and your last HP bar all at once
(Suddenly I'm remembering Golden Sun where Daedalus is a summon. He's just a mecha.)
winter harbor
i don't think Daedalus in percy jackson was exactly a pushover
makes you wonder why they went with daedalus for the hammers since he wasn't exactly known for blacksmithing
rancid ember
Question!
Does Thanatos and Hypnos bond make progress even if their hearts aren't right before their lock, or do you need to give them as much nectar as possible ASAP to get it going?
agile cargo
man i wish there were official merch of those character ||chibi icons|| as stickers because I Want Them
valid citrus
Dusa plush when
coral prawn
I opened discord and the first thing i read was “zagreus body pillow” and i think thats enough internet for me, goodnight.
hushed fulcrum
I don't see the problem.
rancid ember
Oh hey, Hermes prophecy, nice
manic bobcat
please no joke on my Christian server
rancid ember
Hrm. I could probably force myself to complete Elysium (or die, whichever comes first) tonight, but I'm tired lol. May be time for bed...
next anchor
Reminds me of the fact the Vatican was keeping a mech superweapon incase of alien invasion and Serious Sam gets to pilot it in Serious Sam 4
next anchor
...or Asterius
That's a lotta bull for a body pillow XD
pearl thicket
Ive done 32 runs and just now got to the temple of styx and died before i got to hades any tips or build to help me finally beat this punk or what
bleak crag
32 runs 
bleak crag
i'll always go with athena, for the deflect, and hermes extra dash
upper carbon
double strike
valid citrus
I think I got my first clear with Dio +Aphro hangover on rail. Super safe build and you can just sell everything that's not essential making your poms go brrrrr
pearl thicket
What about keepsakes
upper carbon
i didnt get keepsakes till after i completed the story
kids these days and their keepsakes smh
upper carbon
for an even easier build
rail + cluster bomb
you'll get your fastest clear too
1 get in close then use your special
2 dash out
3 repeat
4 profit
distant peak
my first clear was with the stock bow lol
upper carbon
wow
bow is the worst for me chirom somewhat helps but i prefer the other weapons more
distant peak
I do my best with zeus shield and chiron bow
Though my favorites are hades spear and nemesis sword
upper carbon
hidden aspect shield for the massive cast dmg numbers 
valid citrus
If I use hangover, I just go Dio -> purse/aphro -> aphro/purse -> skull earring
pearl thicket
Do i get other gods boons or stick with a buold
valid citrus
Pick Aphro keepsake in area2 if you didn't get her yet just to make sure she'll show up
You don't need chaos or hammers, all you care about is hangover on attack, Dio+Aphro Duo boon and spamming poms
You'll incidentally also get a ton of damage reduction through these two
brisk trail
hello , im new and was woundering what hades is like
trying to see if its worth getting
saw oneyplays played it
green maple
hades is worth it
valid citrus
Isometric hack and slash rogue-lite with emphasis on dialogue story progression throughout multiple runs set in ancient greece, so olympian and cthonian characters
brisk trail
is this story driven / a lot of story or does story matter when it comes to playing the game
i dont really play games for the story driven stuff i just like gaming
valid citrus
There is a lot of dialogue but you can skip a lot
green maple
it doesnt really drive you but it certainly changes some part of the game by bits and bits
like legit smallest details
green maple
pretty much, yeah
valid citrus
It gives you reason to do things but you can also opt to just go for runs
green maple
yeah tbh
if you want more lore dialouges are important but if you just like the game
doesnt matter at all
brisk trail
ty for info
valid citrus
You should talk to people though even if you skip everything cause you unlock new stuff by interacting with characters
brisk trail
makes sense
brisk trail
ill get it in like a month so yea birthdays coming up
valid citrus
Though I guess that's how every game works huh? XD
brisk trail
tbh reminds me of a lot of mobile games
the hole pick 1 of 3 abilitys and run with it
though does come with ads and what not which ruins the game
valid citrus
sends birthrays your way
brisk trail
does this game gets updates?
lol sorry im on my phone so i often get typos (small screen)
valid citrus
It's pretty much done now, unlikely it'll get dlc anytime soon or at all
But you'll have enough stuff to do and experiment with
brisk trail
oh
green maple
if it gets an update its gotta be so cool
brisk trail
well that makes sense it is 25$ so nothing big but more then small
valid citrus
Depends on how hard you want your game to be tbh, cause a lot of late game stuff is tailoring difficulty to your tastes and beating it with cool weapons and builds
brisk trail
so you get to choose your weapons and what not?
valid citrus
You choose your weapon for the run
Then upgrade the different attack types with extra effects
brisk trail
nice
valid citrus
Each god adds different effects and synergies
And each weapon has 4 aspects that change the weapons mechanics is a smaller or bigger way
brisk trail
so its very greek gods based
matching god makes for a better run etc?
valid citrus
Well kinda, you can combine any weapon with any god and do okay
But combining different gods throughout a run will add greater effects
brisk trail
sounds fun
valid citrus
I always use the poison effect as an example
You can get a poison effect on you normal attacks and a damage debuff on your special attack
brisk trail
kinda want to try the build chirs used (oneyplays) he had a health recovery
valid citrus
If you find the boon that combines the two goods your poison will stack more times if they have the damage debuff on them
So you are nudged towards certain god combinations
brisk trail
makes sense ty for info nigth
valid citrus
👍 have a good time until your bday
winter river
How do you unlock the final ambrosia for Demeter and Aphrodite? They're both locked for me still and I can't give any more nectars to either and should have plenty of dialogue done.
rapid forum
Keep choosing their boons
lethal igloo
||Demeter is simply seeing her talk, and I believe Zeus as well, about Kore. Aphrodite is fully bonding Dusa, Than and Meg then talking to her||
winter river
||Kore||?
lethal igloo
||Spoilers ;^)|| Unless you don't mind being told
winter river
I don't mind
lethal igloo
||Kore is her daughter who ran away, she often talks about her and hopes to find her, Zeus reckons she's dead||
winter river
Oh I thought that was ||Persephone||
lethal igloo
||Same person||
winter river
ahhhh
lethal igloo
Mhmm!
winter river
what prompts the dialogue?
It seems like I should have gotten it by now. I have almost 300 hrs in this game without having gotten to the epilogue
granted alot of that was in early access
lethal igloo
I don't think anything in particular, same with Artemis' dialogue to unlock her heart?
winter river
hmmmm
lethal igloo
To be fair, I've gotten to the epilogue and bonded Demeter after, so I'm not sure if that's a factor?
winter river
Oh maybe
How many gods do I need bonded for the epilogue? I have Zeus, Artemis, Ares and Dionysis so far.
lethal igloo
6 I think
winter river
Hermes count?
lethal igloo
Yep, I believe so!
winter river
sweet, thx!
lethal igloo
Not a problem 
winter river
After that, I just need to unlock the last two ranks for Skelly, finish the rest of my character bonds, buy a few more songs, and spend bajilion currencies on badges and end screen skins and I'll finally be feature complete!
lethal igloo
Nice! I've still got Fated Prophecies because RNGs not giving me stuff, then also a bajillion currency buying things then I'm also done
rapid forum
The game doesn't let me sell legendaries ;_;
winter river
Other than Queens Plan I finished my prophesies a while back
the last one for me I think was the fish one, cause I'm terrible at fishing
lethal igloo
Selling the Legendary is just as RNG as getting it
winter river
but I have all the legendary fish now
lethal igloo
I have one fish to get because ||Chaos just isn't coughing it up||
winter river
Though I guess I need a few more journal entries
oh ya,|| Voidskate|| was my last fish.
Still need a second one
lethal igloo
Yep
winter river
I think I also need one more ||flame eater|| and a few more of the non-legendary surface fish.
lethal igloo
I hope the Fates are on our side for once, then
winter harbor
I think I made a tiny bit of progress on the Achilles questline
winter river
It seems to be my fate that I only get perfect catch when I'm on the surface because I don't want any more ||sturgeons||
winter harbor
Since pat actually talked a bit about Achilles
lethal igloo
Oho, nice 
winter harbor
They’re the last side character quest I have to do
winter river
Pat is ||so much less insufferable after that quest||
winter harbor
But since pat is in elysium, and he’s not even guaranteed to show, it’s taking a while
lethal igloo
Funnily enough, ||Sisyphus was the last one I did because Zagreus and Nyx never spoke about his contract for a long time||
It'll get there!
winter river
Pat was my last because it released last
lethal igloo
Sadly I never knew about this game until 1.0, though I'm glad I picked it up anyway
lethal igloo
Very nice 👀 I've only this year gotten into Supergiants games, and I'm very glad I did
Just Tartarus? Damn
winter river
Ah I've been playing they're games since Bastion and follow their email list so if a new game is dropping any time soon I pretty much snap it right up.
lethal igloo
I should throw myself onto the email list, I've loved everything they've made
lethal igloo
Ahaha, just a wee bit
winter river
I really want vinyl statues for Hades
lethal igloo
Same, absolutely same
lethal igloo
Mhmm!
faint moon
I'm so glad I finally found out about this game~
upper carbon
youre welcome 
delicate garden
can anyone help me
I ve got a problom with the game
the game can t run
I tried to restart,to run as administrator,butn nothing worked
What should i do
hearty sierra
granite ether
try the fixes in #h1-tech-fixes first @delicate garden if none of those work, try posting in #h1-tech-support
gritty marlin
What I would give to be able to give my one fan in the Asterius fight a Nectar 
delicate garden
Thanks i will try
dim nest
3 achievements to go until I have 49/49
only 3.8% of players made it to epilogue according to Steam which is surprising
sudden dock
Vote now! https://thegameawards.com/
late siren
is the weird texture issue with the bow's special widely known?
next anchor
anyone else think the bow is severely bland?
cedar remnant
no bow is my fave
For ||aspect of beowulf|| I should just run a hera kind of build?
molten nymph
||FO2|| Flamewheels is not fun
brisk trail
@sudden dock Why would you wish to vote for a compromised award show?
That's like voting in China
molten nymph
@cedar remnant ||Beowulf|| can run hera kinda build, but it can also run aphro cast because they turn into pulse
cedar remnant
I mean, hera can take aphro cast
cedar remnant
from ||charon||
cedar remnant
||it's a boss fight||
quaint hatch
Btw the charge shot hammer makes the flares trigger on the end of the shot
molten nymph
||you get money and discount card||
green maple
im still in the first region
molten nymph
||really useful if you get it early on||
brisk trail
man, i barely get ||thanatos|| to spawn recently and whenever i do he's always in a convo w someone at the house
green maple
is it hard..?
cedar remnant
@molten nymph you troll
quaint hatch
The earlier the better imo
molten nymph
well
cedar remnant
I mean you're not lying but..
green maple
but my boons are pretty weak
molten nymph
useful, but you gotta fight him with terrible boons
green maple
ill check it out later
steep tusk
Thoughts on Dusa
molten nymph
cute
quaint hatch
Even if you lose 3DD
green maple
Thoughts on Dusa
way too cute
quaint hatch
You have multiple stages to restore them
steep tusk
way too cute
She is a 10/10 b a l l
cedar remnant
Meg better change my mind
cedar remnant
Dusa is cute, Meg is hot
yeah true
quaint hatch
Doesn't have to do with builds
Just weapons and own skill
P ez with ranged stuff
Achilles and casts f.e.
steep tusk
I really dislike aphorditie‘s spell
molten nymph
||ngl, i'm not usually into the gay stuff, but than got me sweatin||
cedar remnant
as with all things it's a combination of skill and build
steep tusk
Not spell, i mean effect
cedar remnant
you mean call @steep tusk ?
steep tusk
no i mean ”weak”
cedar remnant
or do you mean the status effect "weak"
molten nymph
weak?
cedar remnant
ah
molten nymph
weak is great
cedar remnant
it's not that good but there are some good duos for it like Ares'
steep tusk
Yes sorry ive been reading a lot of tabletop rpg books so my terminology is all hecced up
quaint hatch
Weak itself isn't the thing that makes aphrodite strong
Also her ares duo is p trash
cedar remnant
:( I thought it was good
steep tusk
My favortie effects are Doom, Hangover, and Zappy Zap
quaint hatch
Only case where I would use it is when building hangover with ps maybe
Curse of longing is nice for keeping up ps then
molten nymph
huh
i like running it with artemis
quaint hatch
But as your main damage source doom has way better options
cedar remnant
I like doom, chill, reflect
quaint hatch
Yup
molten nymph
i like running aphro alongside artemis
the duo is nice and the damage reduction helps
steep tusk
Hermes is one of the best gods
valid citrus
Just go full tank, Dio Aphro Athena
quaint hatch
i like running aphro alongside artemis
the duo is nice and the damage reduction ...
Captain Obvious xD
molten nymph
dio aphro athena on ||arthur||
quaint hatch
I don't find it fair to count hermes in since you're bound to get him
Crit on secret sword is still better imo
molten nymph
hermes is nice
but he lowrolls harder than most gods i feel
quaint hatch
Hermes is awesome but you'll always get him
carmine topaz
Hi, so this should be in some FAQ I guess, and the game released just a month ago, but! Any expansions on Supergiant's mind yet?
cedar remnant
yes artimis attack on ||arthur|| can get mental if you lvl it
quaint hatch
Nothing known
Artemis attack has bad pom scaling
It's more effective to level clean kill
cedar remnant
yeah I did that last time I did an ||arthur|| run
anyone else get weird screentearing-like artifacts in asphodel because of the effect they used for the heat?
sharp fossil
no?
molten nymph
i managed to roll a dual shot, point blank shot, heart rend, exposing divine dash ||rama||
the numbers during ||dad|| fight was 
sharp fossil
might want to try switching to vulkan if you’re getting weird graphics stuff
worth a shot
molten nymph
never noticed the artifacts
cedar remnant
where do i switch to vulkan?
it's not game changing it's just some of the pillars and stuff look a bit broken up
sharp fossil
oh are you on steam?
sharp fossil
it gives the option to switch to vulkan on startup on steam
not sure how it works for epic i’m afraid
cedar remnant
oh :(
well it's not that bad
I can deal with it
https://supergiantgames-kb.groovehq.com/help/hades-performance-issues
here is shows how to do it on epic
rapid forum
Mostly boonless run was not as fun as I first thought
steep tusk
I can feel the pain in that sentance
rapid forum
It was no heat too
Tbf the keepsakes for it was rank 1
And then by the final boss I got it to rank 2
It was.... not really great
warm wedge
may i present to u demeter's legendary boon on thesieus
he just shattered, poor baby
quaint hatch
Spoilers
warm wedge
oop soz
quaint hatch
The rest also
Her legendary looks so sick tho
warm wedge
yaaaaa i didnt expect a new animation for it on bosses
honestly that was one of my best runs i've ever had
next anchor
whats that special? is that a daedalus enhance?
next anchor
oh, havent gotte naround to divesting bloods to it yet, its the most neglected item so far
so is there anything to make the bow less drab? The dash strike feels off to me unlike with sword, shield, or spear, the Adamant Rail feels off too with dash strike but killing is no problem with my combinations
quaint hatch
Mostly building and getting used to the playstyle
The bow prolly feels a bit drab to you since the special has noticeable start and end lag
So using it is a commitment
But you got the advantage of distance and power
dark scroll
Bow is my favorite weapon. ;p Most diverse aspects/playstyles (for the weapon itself).
quaint hatch
Disregarding shield
dark scroll
I'd say those are more similar in terms of boons/builds/styles. Still more then fine ofc. ;p
Sword is mostly the same "style". But I like all sword too.
restive pebble
Hey everyone 👋
Been playing a ton of Hades for 10 days, and I gotta say, I've not felt this strongly positive about a game in years
I was wondering if anyone knows whether modding Hades has been done, or is hypothetically possible someday?
I'm not at a point where I would like to add or make mods for the game yet -- still enjoying the experience as-is -- but I'm wondering about the plausibility maybe someday down the road. Adding new boons or weapons, or seeing if making a modded co-op mode is plausible.
worn tree
https://www.nexusmods.com/hades/ -Most mods are uploaded here
There's also a modding discord - https://discord.gg/KuMbyrN
broken marsh
There are hades mods?
wut
Are there more boons mods?
like a hera or appolo boon
cause there arent boons for all the olympians ):
pliant sparrow
no its all ui / qol changes
astral swift
Do I scream inside whenever Thanatos pops up at the house and Hypnos isn't there-yes indeed I do 
rose nexus
Zag be wearing the coca cola toga
ripe herald
Zag be wearing the *coca cola toga*
excuse me?? I want further explanation??
or maybe it gets ruined with context?? lol
ripe herald
i get now, my brain is just probably fried cause of my homeworks u-u
rose nexus
I’m sorry
ripe herald
shhh no, sorry
opaque nexus
how do you guys pronounce phalanx
cuz in haelian's newest vid he said "fuh-lanx"
I usually say "fay-lanx"
stone pebble
i say the second one
ripe herald
1st one
ripe herald
eye-
ripe herald
idk, I'm not a native english speaker ;w;
ripe herald
ohh nnuu
rose nexus
I usually say "fay-lanx"
This
ripe herald
tho I think this should be in general disc
opaque nexus
I mean, phalanx shot
faint flume
I say fa-lanx personally
rancid ember
fay-layngx
faint flume
lmao
dark scroll
fey-lanks
rancid ember
That's an attempt to be hyper-specific with the pronunciation XD
Looks silly
But yes basically same as Chosen One
ripe herald
fa lanks
rancid ember
Honestly I thought it was fey-lanks even before I actually heard it pronounced XD IIRC
dark scroll
So we declare ourselves as right and ridicule everyone who says it differently!
ps. when that award show final thingy?
Was that the Joystick one?
Searching on hades award strangely has a lot of results.
merry jewel
does blood frenzy stack per death defiance?
steep tusk
i got that super grenade upgrade for adamant rail and i 6 shot Bone hydra
500 damage a hit
dark scroll
combine with another special hammer, get crit and get big numbers.
Big numbers = win.
Flawless logic.
steep tusk
i hate elesium and styx
manic bobcat
If Zag fights himself, chances are it's a one hit KO.
steep tusk
Oh yea because your health bar is smol
peak pivot
I was just watching healians stream and there was a discussion about hell mode. Im gonna post a sort of recap of everything that was said and I wanna hear your takes ||It is unlocked after getting true ending. Start at 5 heat with max mirror and max weapons. You cant chose god keepsakes and your weapon choice is limited to three random aspects shown by skelly. When you win a run you have to do 5 more heat. once it gets to 20 it starts incearsing my 2 and at 40 it increases by one. If you die you have to restart back at 5 heat. It is an endurance test and I think I could be a cool speedrun category if segmented||. If you don't agree it makes sense and also don't blame Hael for anything that was said I took a few liberaties and I just wanna hear your takes
brisk trail
from my experience, anything that gives bonus gold % does not affect side hustle
dark scroll
Do 2 +50% cast damages stack?
winter harbor
Yes, additively
tepid siren
Hi, how do I unlock the other weapons final form? I have a lot of titans' blood but I can't unlock the last form for my weapons?
dark scroll
Without saying too much you gotta have the ||right conversations ||for them.
dark scroll
Nope.
tepid siren
Cause I have been talking to all of the characters every single run
dark scroll
If you wanna know the exact how and what gamepedia will have who for what weapon on it. Can't even remember.
tepid siren
alright, thx
dim nest
@tepid siren #h1-story-discussion has a pinned message telling you how to do it but basically what you want to do is ||spend some titan's blood on the other aspects of said weapon and then hope for the right conversation to appear, every hidden aspect is unlocked by a different character||
thorny linden
Friends sorry if this is a dumb question, but remember that dusa bug from a few months ago that made her favor bug out? Does anyone know if its 100% fixed?
surreal phoenix
Has anyone here tried hell mode on first playthrough?
I plan to do that since I like games to be as challenging as possible. How long would it take to beat the game in Hell Mode first playthrough?
pliant sparrow
41 minutes real time is the record i think
surreal phoenix
I havent played rogue like games before
in howlongtobeat it says 17.5 hours
On average
And thats on normal mode
So I guess around 25-30
On hell mode
First playthrough
And it still is too lenient. I think it may even take 40 hours
pliant sparrow
U can always start hell mode later it isnt any different than normal after first clear
The way u get challenged in hades is when u turn up difficulty after first clear
Hades isnt a game that can be “beaten” once
surreal phoenix
I want the hardest possible difficulty at first. I hate it when games lock difficulty behind beating the game
pliant sparrow
Its not beating the game its just a first clear
winter harbor
There’s only one modifier that’s different in hell mode that you don’t get in normal
Personal liability, basically removes mercy invincibility after a big hit
pliant sparrow
U need a ton more clears to finish main story
surreal phoenix
Does the story change in every clear?
pliant sparrow
Yah always more story to unlock
surreal phoenix
But the game cant get any harder than when you start it in hell mode right?
dark scroll
Well you can increase the difficulty via an ingame system available to both modes.
pliant sparrow
On either normal or hard
surreal phoenix
So even in hell mode you can increase difficulty?
pliant sparrow
Yes
brisk trail
Yep.
winter harbor
Yeah
brisk trail
There's 5 points of Heat permanently activated in Hell Mode but otherwise it plays exactly the same.
winter harbor
There’s only one different unique modifier in hell mode
dark scroll
hell mode is harder in the sense that you start with part of that ingame higher difficulty system and it has something annoying on top.
Which for me just made the game less fun.
surreal phoenix
Can I max the difficulty fast?
dark scroll
Enjoyable*
dark scroll
All depends how quickly you play through the game.
dark scroll
Which is something you prob won't do but you can.
pliant sparrow
Can u clear it? No
surreal phoenix
So I have to beat the game one time to unlock max difficulty instantly
pliant sparrow
Yes u have to get one clear to unlock max difficulty
There is no set “beating the game” except maybe maxing out all interaction and resources
dark scroll
It's a roguelike so the idea is to get stronger by doing multiple runs. Turning everything to full is more likely to be annoying then fun. But you can...
native wave
I would love to see this lol
surreal phoenix
I plan to stream the game, so I want it to be more entertaining
foggy isle
ooppps
dark scroll
Well failure can be entertaining. ;p
pliant sparrow
Buddy it wont be entertaining if u get one shot k’od on the first mini boss
dark scroll
To a point I guess.
foggy isle
man I love getting Ares just for the battlecry you hear when you get his boon, its so hype
native wave
may not even make it out the first few rooms tbh
dark scroll
Well try and see i guess.
surreal phoenix
I have a lot of experience with hardcore games like dark souls(I have beaten them all) but no experience with rogue likes
brisk trail
the sounds that boons make when they appear add a lot to the game
it's the little things
native wave
I like the keepsake selection sounds
foggy isle
Yeah they're all cool but Ares hits different for me
pliant sparrow
Hades is like dark souls except every “level” to get more resources is a run
And u have to learn boss movesets and stuff
foggy isle
man the game is just so cool honestly, I really dont say that often
pliant sparrow
You cant jump into final boss of darksouls after beating the first level
dark scroll
Hades is prob on the more easy side on roguelikes I guess. Haven't played too many but randomess is somewhat controllable.
The difficulty scaling is somewhat slow but done well.
brisk trail
its way less trolly than something like isaac
surreal phoenix
The only thing I didnt like about souls games is that difficulty increases till ng+7. I hate this game design choice. Just make the game the hardest it can be on first playthrough
dark scroll
maybe slow isn't the right wording but it progresses well
brisk trail
you're never completely SOL in Hades I feel
pliant sparrow
You need more runs and resources and experience to clear a high difficulty run period
dark scroll
Now I'm doin some cast runs with heat set to 20. Some difficulty but nothing annoying if you happen to miss x (duo)boon or so.
pliant sparrow
U cant skip to it
foggy isle
I think it took me like 4 tries to beat Theseus and Asterius lmao
surreal phoenix
But you can unlock the hardest possible difficulty before you beat the game once right?
pliant sparrow
Yes...?
surreal phoenix
Ok then I will first unlock it then try to beat the game
dark scroll
Well hell mode needs a seperate/new save.
surreal phoenix
Does it take a long time to unlock these settings?
dark scroll
hellmode you can start with.
Ingame heat system depends how good you are.
thats a modifier system of sort.
surreal phoenix
You have go buy the modefier?
pliant sparrow
Lmk when ur streaming this i wanna see lol
U have to do one clear to unlock modifier
pliant sparrow
Then u can modify difficulty to max
surreal phoenix
Ok I will check it out.
dark scroll
Just starting at hell mode will be plenty challenging.
foggy isle
I heard somewhere that Hell mode gives you Heat mods right off the bat
pliant sparrow
Normal mode is plenty challenging
surreal phoenix
Can I maybe cheat the system to make it think I beat the game once to unlock the modifier?
pliant sparrow
If u clear a run => u unlock the modifier
dark scroll
You're prob halfway to unlocking it if you just start playing. ;p
The challenge is fine for me but I just don't like hellmode.
surreal phoenix
Yeah but if I have to beat the game once to unlock the hardest possible difficulty then all of that time doesnt mean anything cause it isnt the hardest
pliant sparrow
Ok
brisk trail
interesting philosophy
dark scroll
Not with a roguelike I'd say.
The game isn't even designed for that.
You start weak.
You get stronger.
pliant sparrow
Yah “beating the game” is literally level one of a normal game
brisk trail
I'll do a fresh file run every now and then to see how much better I've gotten at the game
native wave
you could always blindfold yourself and only use your thumbs
surreal phoenix
I dont mind getting stronger. I just prefer doing it while knowing that the game is on its hardest settings
brisk trail
first time I died in tartarus, most recently in elysium
pliant sparrow
Itll take forever to clear the game on hardest settings
dark scroll
Well if you wanna have people enjoy the stream...
foggy isle
I think starting out with max heat you're gonna get blown to pieces quite early
not gonna be fun at all
native wave
it'd be fun to see tho
brisk trail
lmao I'm gonna try that rn
dim nest
I tried max heat once just to see and lasted 5 chambers lmao I can not imagine that being fun for a longer period of time at all
surreal phoenix
If I know one thing, is that people love to see streamers suffer in hardcore games
pliant sparrow
Thats different streamers are still on progression system
foggy isle
idk if max heat on a fresh save is even hardcore, I would assume its barely playable
pliant sparrow
If u jump to max in hades thats breaking the progression system
native wave
mebbe, but having 10 runs lasting 30 seconds each may not be super enjoyable
dark scroll
I'd get bored watching the streamer after doing the same thing/part over and over for the first 30 min.
Let alone the hours afterwards.
surreal phoenix
So there is no way for absolute max difficulty on first run period
pliant sparrow
Even the best player in hades would prolly take 100+ hours to beat hades on max difficulty
foggy isle
gimme a sec I think I can find the article
dark scroll
And progressing at 1% the normal speed.
dark scroll
As long as there';s no naked ladies.
foggy isle
You get heat right of the bat in Hell mode
pliant sparrow
Yah dm those to me
dark scroll
or boys I suppose. Gotta be all inclusive before the lawsuits come.
foggy isle
so @surreal phoenix you can play on max difficulty right away I think
pliant sparrow
Oh lmao u can go max difficulty
foggy isle
But mark my words you're not gonna want to
native wave
well, I still think certain pacts are blocked tho
foggy isle
after a couple tries
native wave
story progression ones
foggy isle
Oh well might be
pliant sparrow
One hit ur dead first room you’ll die prolly
@surreal phoenix tell me when ur streaming this lol
native wave
yes, please
dark scroll
Just start doing it...
foggy isle
well its more than enough anyway, you can prolly get like 40+ heat?
surreal phoenix
I will probably start tomorrow.
foggy isle
imma go and see now
pliant sparrow
Oh wait hm u still have to buy final difficulty
native wave
I'm thinking more EM, but I'm not sure
pliant sparrow
@surreal phoenix what time, which streaming platform?
surreal phoenix
I haven't decided time. Twitch is the platform
foggy isle
ok so the game sent me right into the first run as always so u prolly have to suicide first
dark scroll
pc or switch?
brisk trail
i made it 4 chambers
surreal phoenix
Pc
pliant sparrow
Can u dm me ur twitch?
surreal phoenix
Ok wait a moment
foggy isle
i made it 4 chambers
pog
native wave
lol
brisk trail
"ahem, I uh, forgot something" -zag
dim nest
i made it 4 chambers
I don't wanna brag but I made it 5 when I tried 😎
foggy isle
46 heat
native wave
ah cool
brisk trail
hubris check
pliant sparrow
Ha u guys suck i bet i could make it to 6 rooms if i had a chaos gate
brisk trail
my highest heat clear is 8 so im totally out of my league even though sword is my comfort weapon
foggy isle
man rail is my comfort weapon easily
dark scroll
I've done 32 a few times now.
surreal phoenix
wait because I didnt see. You can unlock max difficulty instantly?
pliant sparrow
Yes on hell mode
dark scroll
But doing some 20 heat runs now to enjoy the game a bit more.
brisk trail
yeah just start a hell mode file and throw the first run
foggy isle
I once got the big nuke thing that can damage you + a lot of special upgrades, was doing 2K++++ per Q
surreal phoenix
I open the game now to check it
brisk trail
i bound special to a button on my mouse and i think thats the perfect spot for it
surreal phoenix
I started a run on hell mode. How do I max heat
winter harbor
Yeah, I think special is better as another mouse button
foggy isle
kill yourself on first run
then next time you can go and set most of the modifiers if not all
foggy isle
I dont even check my boons that often, total noob here
I havent even beaten the game with all the weapons yet
brisk trail
im looking forward to being pushed out of my comfort zone later bc im gonna go for 32 heat w every weapon
surreal phoenix
The pact is given by hades right?
brisk trail
its just on the door
foggy isle
its really hard to pick a favourite I have like shared first place for like 5 of them
foggy isle
The pact is given by hades right?
nah just go to start the run it will be there
foggy isle
yeah as in which god you like talking to the most
pliant sparrow
What does athena give other than dash/call
foggy isle
special / attack with deflect is all I remember
brisk trail
her attack effect is pretty
foggy isle
I just permapick dash cause im bad
brisk trail
also i like swatting projectiles lol
dark scroll
Her cast can be really strong too.
foggy isle
she has a passive that makes deflected projectiles do more dmg
brisk trail
oh yeah athena cast is great
foggy isle
whats her cast again?
dark scroll
Big glowies!
brisk trail
big yellow glowy thing
foggy isle
Huh I must have never picked it
brisk trail
it starts slow, accelerates, and kinda homes
foggy isle
Using blade rift cast for the first time rn
brisk trail
love it with uncle sword
dark scroll
Auto return with athena bounce and +1-3 casts and some exit wounds is insane later.
brisk trail
also it deflects the entire time its out
winter harbor
you can get it slightly higher after you've beaten the game ||10|| times
pliant sparrow
U can get higher heat level after a few runs
Bu it wont matter since u wont reach there anyways
waxen seal
had ares dash, ares cast, blade rift size increase and pull, and +3 dashes a few runs ago
felt good to be a literal beyblade
surreal phoenix
So you think its next to impossible to beat the game on first playthrough with 46 heat
pliant sparrow
Yes
brisk trail
yes
foggy isle
I think you would need some kind of nasty cheese
pliant sparrow
Ares athena maybe
pliant sparrow
And u dodge every single attack
brisk trail
if it runs out you die
foggy isle
tbf you dont need to beat the game first try
pliant sparrow
When timer runs out u die
surreal phoenix
When does it reset
pliant sparrow
Cuz u wont on 46 heat
manic bobcat
Not exactly
pliant sparrow
When u go to next realm
brisk trail
beating the game first try defeats the point of a roguelike
quaint hatch
You lose 5 life per sec
surreal phoenix
Does it reset?
brisk trail
after every underworld region
surreal phoenix
Oh good
dark scroll
If you want to play the game on max everything then well do it, no point is asking what everything is if you skip everything on purpose. ;o
manic bobcat
Tldr finish the game in 20 mins, assuming maxed TD, which at 40+ you likely do.
pliant sparrow
Its like skipping to the last level of the game as a new character
rancid ember
beating the game first try defeats the point of a roguelike
I mean, beating the game on a fresh file is a bragging rights thing, at least lol. Beating the game on first try in general is just... highly unlikely XD
quaint hatch
Its like skipping to the last level of the game as a new character
Not entirely accurate comparison
dark scroll
Skipping the tutorial but then asking "what does this button do?" ;p
brisk trail
I thought the first run was a tutorial (which it basically is) so I wasn't trying that hard lol
winter harbor
there are fresh file% speedrunners but they're generally really good at the game before
quaint hatch
It's a tutorial but also a run
rancid ember
The game is meant to be beaten many times in order to view all the content
manic bobcat
Technically 64 on Hell Mode.
dark scroll
And most speedrunners run on 0 or like 20 heat or such. Not max.
winter harbor
because no death defiance, no hammers, no hermes, can only get 4 olympians, no calls
surreal phoenix
I just saw what it means to fight with 46 heat first playthrough. I understand why you said next to impossible
pliant sparrow
Pog
surreal phoenix
Its really next to impossible
brisk trail
hell mode disables mercy invincibility right
rancid ember
IIRC someone said that no one's actually beaten the game on max heat period
dark scroll
yea, thats why I don't like it.
manic bobcat
People have done up to 45 with boonless
dark scroll
I could do it challenge wise but its just annoying me morethen it needs too
brisk trail
how come I take 50 damage when I get meatshot by splitters in normal mode then lmfao
pliant sparrow
Yeah but they have max weapon and mirror
surreal phoenix
So none beat the game on 46 heat first playthrough?
winter harbor
yeah, I would imagine maxed routine inspection and max lasting consequences makes it impossible
manic bobcat
Max heat completed for 1.0 is 56
rancid ember
Are there any truly undodgeable attacks in the game? It should be theoretically possible to beat at max heat, just insanely difficult
surreal phoenix
Whats the max heat that someone managed to beat the game on first playthrough?
manic bobcat
No one knows lol
pliant sparrow
^
pliant sparrow
Healeian beat hell on 2nd run
surreal phoenix
Is there any chance someone beat the game on 46 heat first playthrough?
manic bobcat
Define first playthrough
quaint hatch
There's always a chance
pliant sparrow
And max out mirror and weapons
quaint hatch
But realistically: no
quaint hatch
And max out mirror and weapons
He said: never played game before
pliant sparrow
If u spend enough time
manic bobcat
I'll be surprised if someone can even finish at 0 heat if they have never touched the game before.
brisk trail
u trying to be sisyphus or something
pliant sparrow
That doesnt preclude first run
If just means unlimited runs
but u have to be new
foggy isle
cerberus is such a cutie
surreal phoenix
I dont mean never die.
winter harbor
maybe if you have similar experience in other roguelikes like binding of isaac and enter the gungeon
quaint hatch
At the beginning you can only die once
manic bobcat
The closest I have seen is someone went from 1heat to 41 heat and beat it.
If that's what you meant
Took them many tries
If that what's you meant by "first playthrough"
surreal phoenix
I mean beating the game for the first time on 46 heat.
pliant sparrow
Thats possible if u spend enough time
manic bobcat
I guess you can? Grind enough resources, suicide in Styx
Until full mirror, full weapon then do 46 heat?
Technically first win on 46
dark scroll
500 hours? ;p
manic bobcat
Sure, definitely possible
surreal phoenix
No never drop heat. Always 46
manic bobcat
Sure
pliant sparrow
Yah
manic bobcat
Just more grind
pliant sparrow
500+ hours
broken marsh
how do i get the weapon artifacts with the blood?
manic bobcat
With enough time, that's completely possible
brisk trail
god i hate theseus so much
foggy isle
final boss always be taking big fat poops on me
dark scroll
Theseus is a nice man.
foggy isle
im boutta get it handed to me rn
quiet gull
how do i get the weapon artifacts with the blood?
Unlock all weapons first
broken marsh
ok
brisk trail
once you learn the final boss' patterns they aren't that hard
more hypnos advice lol
surreal phoenix
Ok thanks for all the help guys. I will start the game tomorrow. I wonder if I will manage to beat it and how long it will take
brisk trail
I was getting absolutely shredded my first few tries though
quaint hatch
The first statement is a definite yes
foggy isle
I just mash space with athena dash and hope for the best
brisk trail
learning to time dash will help a lot
pliant sparrow
^
quaint hatch
I technically you could win with only athena dash damage xD
brisk trail
sometimes you can't make enough distance between you and the boss
pliant sparrow
Especially the circle one
surreal phoenix
I will stream it for a looong time thats for sure
manic bobcat
not trying to be a doubter but you must be a masochist to try that.
surreal phoenix
If I want to compete with the others that stream it I have to go even further beyond
manic bobcat
if high heat completion is what you want, just download a maxed file and beat 56 heat
pliant sparrow
It prolly have opposite effect tbh
manic bobcat
you will become an instant celebrity
pliant sparrow
Itll be boring after first few runs
surreal phoenix
They have already beaten it on heat 56
brisk trail
lmao I think it's so funny how the Meg fight has changed from "oh god oh god oh god oh god" to "you meddle with forces beyond your understanding"
pliant sparrow
On maxed resources
brisk trail
basically if Meg isn't dead in <30 seconds something is wrong
surreal phoenix
None has beaten it on 46 heat it on first playthrough
I havent seen anyone
On youtube
manic bobcat
I mean doing 46 heat without maxed mirrors and only Zag Sword is the ultimate 
you do you brother.
I hope the content you are trying isn't just endless grinding.
pliant sparrow
lmao I think it's so funny how the Meg fight has changed from "oh god oh god oh ...
idk about u but meg always beats me in ||the bedroom||
surreal phoenix
This will be the hardest game I have ever played thats for sure
foggy isle
yay won with sword
brisk trail
hype
foggy isle
1 heat 
pliant sparrow
aspect?
pliant sparrow
thats a p good weapon at low heat
quaint hatch
Every weapon is
quaint hatch
Zag sword is the worst aspect
Not bad
Just the worst
surreal phoenix
I dont think it will make much difference in viewership though because people watch the bigger streamers most of the time.
pliant sparrow
its good for beginners if all u do is spam
brisk trail
my love for sword aspects is reverse of how they're listed
quaint hatch
Then bow or rail will be easier for most
Since range
foggy isle
I hate bow but rail go hard
manic bobcat
just dash strike a lot
foggy isle
I also cant use spear, I have never found the right time to use the spin attack
quiet gull
I spam athena q and dash lmfao
he hasnt rebound Q
quaint hatch
Just dash out of spin
manic bobcat
^
quaint hatch
Also depends on the aspect
brisk trail
I do like that dash activates it
pliant sparrow
use hidden aspect of spear, spam special
quaint hatch
For hades you use it to apply quick buff and after that go exploding launcher on them
quaint hatch
Ez game
foggy isle
haha
upbeat burrow
achilles spear + cast build = ❤️
brisk trail
achilles is def my favorite spear aspect
upbeat burrow
lol, fair
quiet gull
<:squirtnya:472124054644457472>
That's why it's so good
quaint hatch
I love every aspect
Except zag
upbeat burrow
but yeah achilles with the shorter dash hammer and spamming dash attack is also pretty nice
manic bobcat
Zag Bow is fine
quaint hatch
Only zag aspects I like are fist and bow
manic bobcat
but yeah achilles with the shorter dash hammer and spamming dash attack is also ...
Try that but with Hades Spear
more effective.
quaint hatch
^
Achilles is just way better on casts
The problem with it for serrated is that you have to reapply every 4 attacks
manic bobcat
Spreadfire Zag Rail is also great.
quaint hatch
For hades you just have to apply buff and are gucci for 10secs
upbeat burrow
I see but I like the applying method of achilles better I guess