#h1-discussion
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||Talos||, got it
||She doesn't want to date you!|| xD
I feel like you should got for rolling knuckle
because you can just pull them back into your combo
yea and i have dash strike (+900% armor dmg in dash)
If you get the chance, replace the poseidon boon with dionysus
yeah
Dash-strike might be better then, 60 percent increase is better than 90 damage flat
aight, thanks yall
no problem bro
No problem, have fun deleting everything! 
Builds and combat might be the next best place though
I mean
its a hades discussion
so..
does he really have to?
I don’t know, are you disagreeing with yourself?
I don't mind. Nice to see enthusiasm. We were all just enthusing about romantic options anyway xDD
||It was so bittersweet and funny when Than first appeared, so hurt, with Zagreus completely oblivious.
Thanatos: Heart eyes, mf!
Zag: Why are you yelling at me??||
Oh man, I am
||He's so bitter at the start! Meg too. But Than is just so passive-aggressive with that goodbye line.|| xDD
||Awkward Than and his feelings||
||I bet Than realized his feelings a while before and just looked at them and said “that seems unproductive” aaaand, REPRESS||
||I doubt he recognised them for what they were so much as 'being around him makes me feel weird. I'm not going to think about that ever'.||
||”That sounds like a Me problem”||
I don't think you guys have to censor everything
as long as you dont mention the persons name
i am new here why so many black bars
||If you romance Meg first, Than talks about how she encouraged him to pursue Zag. There's a later scene where Zag comes across Than and Meg 'comparing notes'. I wish we got to see those scenes in full.||
Black bars are spoiler-stuff, Vand
You click on them and the text shows itself. Kelsey and I were discussing some of the romantic stuff in the game ^^
I mean, anyone new to the game could probably put it together. I’d like for them to be able to experience the characters at whatever pace they wish
Of course going in I was slightly spoiled (by my own choice) because when I first heard about the game I said ||”Ooh, how queer is it?” and the answer was “Very” so I was delighted||
same
I know the ending to skellys legacy
but its not about the point
its about the journey
I mean, that doesn't need a bar. Hades is very, very bi.
I’m excited about that one! I still haven’t uncovered all his secrets
It'd be weird if bi wasn't the default in a game about Greek myths xD
That’s true, I mean, it’s a big selling point
I was thrilled that ||you can get into a wholesome-yet-kinky poly relationship|| with great writing and characterisation. I can't actually think of another game where you can do that?
Just be thankful a certain part got toned down
When I heard the ||WHIP from Megs romance scene|| I'ma be honest, I got kinda turned on
This might be one of the first, or at least the first one that’s not like a visual novel? I can’t think of many ||poly|| visual novel style games either, though
It's in the ||threesome|| too. Just ||with more giggling from everyone.||
THATS A SCENE?
Yeah
OK ||THANATOS||, HERE I COME
but ||Zag and Than grew up together, they're like brothers||, sounds a bit awkward to romance him
And I was delighted. Zag is all ||If this is a dream, I will be very mad|| about it.
then again ||Dusa's path is a romance without any choice and that one is even worse||, that character blows
they arent related in any sort
DTG ||Nyx raised Meg, Zag and Than. But at different times. None of them grew up together.||
if we can romance than whom we grew up with, why cant i romance artemis
We didn't grow up with Than
I am pretty sure there is dialogue about that
In the scene I mentioned ||Meg states that she's known Than longer than Zag's been alive.||
mhhh I must misremember then
so zag is romancing very old people basically
hot
Yup, Nyx has been a mother and mother like figure to many for maaaany years
We don't actually know how old he is either. Just... younger than them.
they're gods, age isn't relevant unless it's aeons
virgin goddess for ages
NIGHT MOMMY
Well nice @woeful olive
Also, Artemis is gay, Alpha. Nyx has ||Ares|| xD
DAMNIT
no, artemis has a partner
Callisto.
DAMNIT 2x
Who is a female nymph.
so i do have a chance
DAMNIT 3x
or is he
wait when does it say that Artemis is into Callisto
its a partner
She shared a bottle of nectar with her, so..
the way she gets nagged by her relatives, she just seems like she can't be bothered
He is not. But I'd be up for a wild-hunt style game with Callisto as protag, Artie as love interest and Apollo as support.
ye, but artemis is more interested in archilles tbh
yea and we shared a bottle of ambrosia with the dog
I don't see Zag romancing Cerberus any time though
I don’t know that Artemis is romantically interested in Achilles, she’s just a big fan
Artemis admires Achilles's strength, but it's not romantic. She makes several statements during the game regarding how Zag should 'leave the worship of her to the nymphs' xDD
u have a nectar with a rock, so irelevant
So I'm super late but ||YO IS THERE ACTUALLY A POLY RELATIONSHIP IN THIS GAME??? ||
i wont stop until aretemis romance become a reality
||YES AND IT'S AWESOME!||
||YES HEALTHY POLY FTW||
Artemis just isn't into Zag, Alpha. We need a spinoff game about nymphs for her romance. xD
*Oh hell yes!
(god the autocensor drives me nuts lol I keep running headlong into it)
I've made that mistake too, Seian xDD
there is indication of affection on zag during aphro/artemis duo interactions
and aphro directly
Like, is there some kind of fear that overcontrolling parents will try to boycott the game/discord/company if people are allowed to curse or something? XD
Yeah but it’s hard to say whether Aphrodite is just bugging Artemis in a way that will drive her the most crazy
or being sincere
Technically you arent related to aphrodite or artemis
because ||Demeter|| is you grandmother
You are to Artie
if u going against artemis in trials, she said, i thought we have.. why do i even bother with a half god
Artie is the daughter of your dad's brother. She's your cousin, dude.
And she's Zeus FOSTER sister
She's related through the father's side, not the mother's
It’s just a courtesy, for people who don’t mind swearing they just have to be mindful of it, but it makes it a comfortable place for people who do mind it
okay 
Aphro is... she's got a weird origin. Foam baby.
ares x aphro is real technically
I dunno, literally every other online space I'm in people swear casually so it seems weird to me ^^; It is what it is though
(I don’t mind swearing at all btw, I just am used to censoring myself because I live with kids and see my grandparents often)
...lol imagining getting ares in a jealous rage against you. You'd be kind of screwed
Aren’t Aphrodite and Dionysus married in the myths?
No, Dio marries Ariadne.
Aphrodite is married to everyone in the myths
And Aphro is married off to Heph, but continues her relationship with Ares (and others, including Dio).
Oh right, Aphrodite was married to Hephaestus
Ares actually seems to have great affection for her in a lot of myths. And vice-versa.
clearly aphro x everyone except heph is the way to go
I guess he didn’t make the cut xD
I do love Ares.
And I'm so glad he's not just 'mindless evil killer' in Hades. SO GLAD. I am sick of Evil!Ares. xD
He’s so hot but then I remember he’s like “war and genocide, rah rah rah” so ehhh, thanks for the boons BYYYYE
"KILL THEM ALL, DO IT PLEASE" -Ares, probably
i mean ares does implied to become obsesssed with violence and treachery in the game
He's less 'war and genocide' and more 'war for passion'. When he takes to the battlefield personally, it's usually down to family. He killed Poseidon's son, who assaulted his daughter, and was put on trial for it.
"Is war not a one to feast of?" -Ares to Dionysus
He's also the patron of warrior women.
Isn't that the amazons
Oh HELL YES I managed to beat ||Alecto|| without using a death defiance <3 I think this is the first time!
Yep, Ares is their patron, GN
Alecto ruff
Either way I haven't done it much lol
Yeah I’m glad that he’s portrayed with nuance in this game
DC made Ares into Wonder Woman's archvillain and I will forever have a bit of salt about that xDD
alecto dont restraint you in a small room like tisiphone at least
Congrats, Seian!
Alecto doesn't seem much worse than the other Furies tbh. Tisiphone seems like the nastiest of them
let me romance TIS
she can only say two words
LET ME ROMANCE ALL OF THE FURY SISTERS
YES Zag’s progression with Tis is so sweet, I’m not certain how she feels about him but like, my heart is so warm thinking about them
@carmine ravine ||I'm currently teaching her how to say 'happy'||
"Murderer. Murder. Murderrerrrr~" she said lovingly, as she stabbed me once again, and I knew our time was over for now... but I would meet her again soon, my one and only love.
Ares is also the most openly respectful of the Chthonic gods (aside from maybe Hermes). He's the only one who treats Than with any sort of respect, and there's the ||mini-arc with Nyx too||.
Tis is the easiest sister to beat... But she's somehow so sweet.
"Murderer. Murder. Murderrerrrr~" she said lovingly, as she stabbed me once again, and I knew our time was over for now... but I would meet her again soon, my one and only love.
@rancid ember u rly love that fanfic of urs dont you
meg is the easiest
Dio is still a bit 'eh' about some Chthonic gods. He thinks that Than is a total mood-killer at parties. xD
OHHH
I thought you meant towards zagreus
Hades hates all of the Olympian gods, besides Hermes, to which he has no opinion towards
Nah, to the Underworld. Most Olympians view it as gloomy, unsavory or just 'lesser', and those who inhabit it as similar.
Hades is not allowed to hate Hermes because firstly, Hermes is a darn psychopomp, and secondly, Charon forbids it.
Basically Hermes minds his own business and Hades likes that so he can stay
Hermes is all up in Hades's business tbh
He delivers oodles of dead spirits to Charon.
Can Charon beat Hades? ||Not trying to hint anything||
Yeah but he doesn’t start anything, at least in this particular narrative
Hades needs Charon for things to function as he wishes them to. Fighting Charon would be an act of self-sabotage for Hades.
" Charon accepts either obol or blood " -Thanatos
||Finally got two wins for the “two wins in a row” quest with him today, now I don’t have to go into every shop||
As much as I love Ares in this game, Hermes is still my top favourite Olympian. His ||relationship to Charon|| is great fun, and it's nice to see a representation where he's more than just 'The Messenger'.
||" If you take whats his without paying the price, you're going to pay with your blood "|| -Thanatos
u can call it, a blood price, wink wink
no im just imagining than saying that, while nodding to the camera
I love that the Chef seems to have a crush on Zag, that’s so cute
why tho
u just want to ship zag with every moving thing
Ship Chef with Wretched Broker
Doesn’t everyone who’s enjoying this game?
true honestly
why would i ship zag with a rock
Bouldy is crying 
I like the relationship you have if you follow all routes to the end... I want more relationships to counsel though.
It is. I just want MORE because I am greedy.
Not enough drama in the underworld for you? You could definitely write and or read some fic, I bet there’s already Hades stuff on Ao3
The best fic comes from canon that could just use a liiiittle more details

I don't know why every single Fandom want to ship everyone with everyone
That's boring
its not uncommon for greek myths to get adapted into other works, so searching for hades videogame related stuff is fairly harder since there's early fandoms that are released earlier
nearly got all ||three relationships, just need to wait for RNG to do it's thing for Hypnos and Thanatos||
Its like when ||Dionysus said he's connected by Zagreus and when Zagreus said he was ripped to shreds by the titans|| it's true in the myths, but not necessarily canon
Different people ship different characters, and they do it because they don’t find it boring, I don’t really know what to tell you
in the Hades universe at least
haha totally not bcoz they are bored ||like the onceler fandom||
https://i.imgur.com/vAPD7Ko.png close call
damn
True, but that’s why you go for that specific video game https://archiveofourown.org/works?utf8=✓&work_search[sort_column]=kudos_count&work_search[other_tag_names]=&work_search[excluded_tag_names]=&work_search[crossover]=&work_search[complete]=&work_search[words_from]=&work_search[words_to]=&work_search[date_from]=&work_search[date_to]=&work_search[query]=&work_search[language_id]=&commit=Sort+and+Filter&tag_id=Hades+(Video+Game+2018)
An Archive of Our Own, a project of the
Organization for Transformative Works
I had that same encounter before
come on my guy, that link is long@next sphinx
Nice one Tazz!
bow is weird tho
Yup, it is
not my fav
its def a good boss killer
i used the second aspect
the one with homing
I like the canon relationships in Hades an awful lot. One pairing I like sits on the edge of canon, but my OT3 is the expected.
Chiron is definitely my favourite
chiron is fun but I just had my first poseidon sword run and that is f u n
i prefer hidden bow than chiron honestly
I don’t really feel the need to ship anyone besides the canon relationships for this one because they’re plenty satisfying, ||unless there’s Nyx/Persephone stuff because I’d be all about that||
i havent unlocked everything yet soo
I like ||Charon/Hermes|| and that's the one on the edge of canon. ||Nyx/Persephone|| is great though.
I have nothing against people who ship characters but in particular situations it is really embarrassing to see how much it is weird
they dont really care about that, all matter is their headcanon
Aphrodite and Hephaestus are married... doesn't stop Aphro. Oh and Dio has a wife but still has... lively celebrations with multiple people -coughs-
Wow it’s like I enjoy poly relationships or something, wild
Dio's wife is Asterius's sister
And the sister of Theseus's wife.
For exemple in the Yakuza game, there's some people who ship the main character with his brother, and I think that's kinda problematic, when it gets so weird it ruins the game
which is to say everyone even remotely connected to the pantheon in any way can draw their family tree back to the Olympians
All stems from Chaos in the end.
Yeah I don’t like incest ships
That's not really my jam either. But I do love healthy polyships and they're so rare T.T
I don't either but they do make sense canonically unfortunately
we should change the subject
I just dislike it when the ship is not appropriate with the actual lore of the game
Yes, you do seem to dehumanize shippers a lot
how is it not human
I'm asexual. I just like seeing a variety of dynamics and fun characters, so I ship when I ship -shrugs-
being horny isn't a crime tho
ye
You keep making super judgey remarks about people who ship like that don’t use logic or reasoning and are just horny all the time
welp, hit them where it hurts i guess, so im sorry
I’m not hurt, I don’t know you so your low opinion of me and other people doesn’t really affect me. It’s just shortsighted of you.
sure mate
https://i.imgur.com/tATugwN.png does this stack with demeter
I think "perpetual" was a humorous term
I'm never horny, due to being asexual... but I am all over ||ThanZagMeg and their kinky polyship.||
Don't take it too seriously
Yes it does, Tazz
dun worry, shes not hurt allegedly
nice, im on magnetic knuckles again, special is dio, normal is demeter... 😛
That’s that goooood build synergy
i keep forgetting to give poseidon a nectar
Hades now my 7th most-hours-clocked game on Steam... and I've only been playing since July.
funny tho kelsey, thats my 3rd boon i got (first was dio special, second dementer main, then that one
only 175 h on FNV? a vanilla user i see
Its super addictive gameplay
I love knuckles with dio attack and either Aphrodite or Demeter on dash
Shreds stuff like you wouldn’t believe with privileged
only 175 h on FNV? a vanilla user i see
@carmine ravine wrong - that's Ultimate Edition. it doesn't track the many, many hours I spent on the original edition OR the ~60-80 hours I spent ||on the version i pirated in college b/c i was too poor to buy games||
same, illegal life
I often aim for Poseidon and Dio at the start because their duo boon is the BEST, especially if you can get it early
uh oh
@woeful olive
Not in here recently, that’s strange
Don’t think it was recently lol, just woke up
its all just a dream woOoOoO

Are you sure it was for this server?
I often aim for Poseidon and Dio at the start because their duo boon is the BEST, especially if you can get it early
@next sphinx yes!!! also, pos + aphro
poseidon call + smoldering air for ez boss cheese
I haven’t gotten smoldering air yet, I’ll give it a try
I wonder if you got smouldering air and the hermes god gauge fill how much of the time you'd spend being invincible with poseidon call
no, the gauge will go down
or athena for that matter
it does go down but you can get it back very quickly as well
just avoid enemies until you have invincibility lmao
It goes down?!
yes, when using duration based calls, the gauge goes down, so u cant fill it uo while using it
:o
Hmm Trippy Flare & Trippy Shot are same, right?
hey yall so
I think trippy flare is the ||hidden shield aspects version||
I beat hades once so far, but I still don't know what ambrosia even does
When will I find out what that does
oh boy thats a spoiler
Is it?
When you read the description
can you tag it, the final boss name
So...not until the epilogue?
I guess I'm asking how many times do I have to beat hades for these things to be useful
aah
goddammit
And should I not be trading them with the wretched broker
spoilers
I don't think I said a spoiler?
You're giving away the final boss
How is saying the final boss is hades a spoiler
can you read
Its the name of the game
Because it's a spoiler
Obviously you're going to fight hades at some point
What?!?!
And repeating it to be cheeky might as well just got a mod in here
lol I read that as they beat the game Hades
How is it not insanely obvious?
trust me on that
use these to tag spoilers -> ||
just spoiler tag it, or i just call a mod @red tiger
I would tag spoiler if I had spoiled anything...
Hades is his dad, its not obvious
What!?!??!
It's rules of the server
Who would fight your dad
I would @stone pebble
Because he's keeping him there..
ok
He's not letting him leave
But who knows how or when or even why he's doing htat
just dont say the final boss name again without a spoiler tag man, its not cool
||fighting hades that is||
But...its the name of the game?
So??
still a spoiler
What if the game was called Zeus
How?!
people don't know it's them
The game is not called zeus
this guy rly want to die on this hill
imagine dying lmao
yes
Yep

If everyones insane but you, youre the one thats insane
Wow
Yup its everyone else that's crazy.
it's just being nice dude, get over it
Yeah, you're being stubborn as a mule
Have you guys ever played the game?
does it really affect you that much you need to scream about it?
just spoiler tag it
Yes it is because it makes no sense
Everyones entitled to their opinion
I'll spoiler tag it in the future sure
So stfu
But I feel like you guys haven't played the game for even a few minutes
The mods decided it was a rule, we're sorry that not everyone could divine the end twist of the game
Do you?
WHY WOULD YOU EXPECT ||YOUR FATHER AT THE SURFACE||
Because you were allowed to go the entire game without him interfering and he was at the end
||BECAUSE HE'S THE ONE KEEPING YOU THERE. THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF THE GAME IS TO ESCAPE TO THE SURFACE||
Which he allows
listen, whther u like it or not, its a predetermined rule in the server, see if the mods can help you with what u want without getting warned @red tiger
not really?
God, this guys actually not shutting up, I know some people are entilted, but this guys a karen
Completely really
greatneon I'm still here
Online Karens are coming back boys
No need to be personal.
Let's not
Relax
People ruinign the game
Sorry I didn't realize the final boss was supposed to be surprising
i'll just refer to him as the final boss in the future
It's fine, yeah, just do that
You can say Redacted and everyone will know who you mean.
We've come to an agreement, we're finished
but can someone answer my question though
When people are just wrong, I feel like I gotta correct them
since when the final boss is an anomaly
dude calm down
wow i suck i find it really hard to hit theseus back on pc
when I do I find out what ambrosia does
When you read the codex entry
bond with ppl, u gib ppl ambrosia after u unlocked their locked hearts
calm down
move on
bond with them
To get more hearts
Is it just for story reasons?
Keepsakes and stuffs
Other than keepsakes
Lore, story, some unlocks
mostly for story but it does have a gameplay purpose
You really haven't noticed what happens when you give nectar??
@brisk trail they say thank you and then you get nothing from it
some for keepsakes, some for story, some for another type of keepsakes
He's talking about Ambrosia.
||Ambrosia can be gifted to people after you’ve given them six nectars and completed a quest for them, six of those characters will give you powerful summoning items||
You think the final boss is obvious but you haven't been able to determine you get items when you give nectar to people?
You can also date certain people if you fill their heart gauge
Is that what the stuff under the keepsake thing unlocks?
It's explicitly mentioned you get nothing, on general principle
Yeah, go back to your keepsake window and just stare at the big question mark boxes
with the golden little heart things with keyholes?
Yes
ahhh ok
Yep
And there are only 6?
Only some NPCs, mind
yes
Can I only choose 6 or can I get them all
6 is all there is
only 6 npcs give them
Tbh give it out anyway, that's what Nectar and Ambrosia are for
||Than, Meg, Dusa, Achilles are four of them, what are the other two again?||
You can also use nectar/ambrosia to barter with the broker
I might accidentally have started the
||companion|| storyline first and locked myself out of the others before finishing this one
||Skelly and Bouldy/Sisyphus||
||sisyphus, thanatos, and patroclus|| @next sphinx
oh wait, ||missed you saying than my bad||
Everyone forgot about skelly 
Boyo stronk
The little pose he does when ||he's summoned gets me every time||
I don’t think you can lock yourself out of anything Pidge
It will all eventually happen
You can only have one storyline going, afaik
I can't get the Meg prophecy to trigger, for example
There is an alternate dialogue if you beat the final boss on your first run
But that's not a thing you keep really
I'll have to ||lighten sisyphus's sentence first|| afaic
There is an alternate dialogue if you beat the final boss on your first run
@brisk trail I wanna try and go for that once I git gud
Meg’s takes a while because rng has to trigger two different scenes with her
@hard pier since you start with athena a good strategy and to go for the athena ares boon so you proc doom and trigger it over and over again
That duo literally never pops up for me, even in my planned out runs
I'll try and get above ||3 heat|| first tyvm
Well you run into a lot fewer variations in the first few runs
Oh yeah, that’s very fun when you can get it
No hammers no hermes, etc
||EM1|| kinda destroyed my flow
I can't beat ||Hades|| anymore, even tho ||EM1|| only affects the sisters xD
Yeah its jarring at first!
His weird traps that he spawns in get me sometimes, too. With ||heightened security|| it's a chunky 150 damage hit
It's weird because I still get though the sisters fight quite well
But the run after that, where everything is essentially back to ||2 heat|| since ||EM1|| has no effect there just deteriorates so fast xD
My luck with boons has run dry, I think
Maybe you’re used to having more dodges and therefore more iframes?
I think you're mistaking something here
I do have pretty much everything but the last two mirror upgrades maxxed
Guys I did like 100+ runs over and over farming to get the Exagryph hidden aspect
I can get by quite well with 2-3 dodges usually
@ebon pumice please don't evade the swear filter!

Oh sure, I usually try to get plus 2 extra dodges from Hermes though, on runs where I don’t the final fight is harder
To get three extra dashes is just the best kind of luxury
I use ruthless reflex so a try to reroll Hermes boons to get more extra dashes
@hard pier play with ||hidden fists||
I don't use the fists enough to warrant the blood investment
Nor have I even discovered them yet
that one is really fun tho
This conversation makes it seem like lategame you have a lot more (even if not absolute) control over what boons you get than I've experienced so far lol
it has ||more dash built-in||
God keepsakes and rerolls
@rancid ember you actually do thanks to mirror's lategame perks
you never get complete control tho
I mean, they are locked behind 30 keys
They might be, sorry about that Seian
don't think they are spoiler
@rancid ember best thing you can do to try and get the build you want is to grab the God keepsakes
you have some and it really helps but you need to know the mechanics of how the boons work etc
that helps more than anything
afaik spoilers here are the content of hidden aspects, last area, last boss and anything post clear
I didn’t think of them as spoilery because they’re a game mechanic, but there you go
would the name of a keepsake be a spoiler
Do I have to win with a hidden aspect or just reach ||redacted|| with it?
The general rule is late-game content counts as spoilers, so I think mentioning rerolls and naming keepsakes would be fine since you can access them pretty darn early on
The name of the final two keepsakes would be spoilers, yes
@red tiger nope except the two post-game
Ooh that's true
Well, there's really only one keepsake you can only get post credits
ah ok
2 afaik
||only one I still had to get was the Persephone one, I had all the others pre credits||
Perhaps the switch version is missing one, what do I know
Does anyone else try to kill as fast as possible because you're used to using the lament plume sometimes lol
@hard pier ||there apparently is a hades keepsake for the post-epilogue (so the part of the story after the credits)||
Never used it
I used it for the achievement and never after
||I'd have thought that the keepsake container would show me a free slot for that one, but I guess it's a little secret or something||
Or it's just not on Switch yet
I mean the second heart is still locked
||maybe, I think it gives you hades call or something||
||I finally got Hades keepsake yesterday, it took soooo many deaths for him to accept more nectars postgame||
Ugh, had more trouble with hydra than I thought I would. I went from no death defiances used to two death defiances used lol
So much for my dreams of my first clear
There's no way I'll make it past Elysium bosses with only tooth defiance left XD
@rancid ember I've cleared a couple times and still occasionally have issues with the hydra based on what heads pop up! You'll get it soon. 
Yeah you'll get that soon. Remember the whole idea is going through and losing and upgrading
Previously I don't remember having much trouble with the hydra at all XD But I also don't really have a good idea of the strategy still tbh. I think the first couple times I had some really good boons on my side which helped
oh are you playing for the first time since before official release or something?
No
I only started playing recently
But my last two runs that got here the hydra didn't seem that hard lol
You can do it! They all can feel hard depending on how comfortable you are with your weapons and boons, right?
is there any reward for win streaks?
Also before I knew that the hydra sometimes spits out eggs that become monsters, I was overrun by so many extra monsters
is there any reward for win streaks?
@glass shell no
Or whatever you call those balls
Oooh I just started my run with Poseidon keepsake, and the first door after him is Dionysus - it’s gonna be a good run
Still not a big fan of Poseidon
But his special is nice on the Stygian Blade with the Hammer that makes the Special hit twice
yeah
Negates the removed knockback
taking him on your regular attack and special is kinda eh tho
am i just bad or is the spear just not good
the spear is the best imo
you use special on your spear more than regular attack to get the most out of it
its base attack is woeful
you really gotta use the range on it
and use the base attack to apply status effects
use things with extra backstab damage for the special too
Zagreus spear is nice for spamming special and getting backstab every time
Apparently the Zag aspect is a waste
like if you don't have the backstab damage perk in nyx's mirror get that
I hear the Achilles one is good
ive mostly been using the Hades one
it is, free 150% damage
I really dislike the Achilles aspect, so ymmv
i just dont know how to get its dmg up
I like how mobile it is
Well, that was a valiant, though ultimately doomed attempt at Elysium
What's the alternate to the backstab?
im not really a fan of the ranged stuff
which is why i never use the bow
because i play controller and aiming isnt as easy as it would be on mouse
Hera bow With Trippy Shot is actually great
Also the auto aim is generous
It's really not bad
Actually hard to miss
What's the alternate to the backstab?
@hard pier Increased damage to undamaged enemies.
just play eris rail, doesn't matter where you aim if you're hitting the whole room anyway
Isnt eris rail the fastest clear or something?
The wait for the bomb to land is deadly
rail with zeus on attack is strong
At least for me
special is just an inbetween the reloading with the bonus damage when you're in the right place
I love the rail, not as much as the bow but it’s great
zeus attack + various lighnting buffs + a bunch of artemis crit buffs pretty much mean that every bullet will deal big damage to all the enemies
The only bow aspect that I actually don't enjoy as much is
Interestingly enough
The hidden one
Hidden one so stronk
The rail and fists are my fave weapons.
for the hidden bow, the one run I did it I only spammed special and didn't actually use its special mechanic
so can't judge
Well I used it, but the Attack is really slow to charge
I made myself die early on a run with the hidden bow aspect because I dislike it so much for bosses
I use crit on the attack to see big shared numbers
If you don't get the hammer to make it faster it's rather eh
It's great against bosses though
It can be but I much prefer Chiron
It's really annoying against the assassin special enemy down in Tartarus
The guy is so hard to hit
Apparently the rail is actually op tho
It's kind of like a reverse chiron because the special does what you have to land a regular attack with chiron to do all by itself
that's why I spammed special, pretty much same idea as chiron but without having to tag the target first
The gameplay feel is shoot big rockets
@brisk trail rail + zeus attack + lightning buffs + crit buffs
1 bullet = a bunch of targeted bouncing aoe lightnings everywhere
it's great
It doesn't help if getting into the blast radius raises the chances of me dying exponentially xD
Get more dashes
doesn't when your basic attack pretty much become a nuke button
imagine if bow special did chain lightning rather than regular lightning? the sheer amount of crowd control...
it was a no ||heat|| run, but it was also the time it felt the most like a click to win to me
Yeah lightning attack on eris rail has been addicting for me
They just feel bad to me
It's too good and so easy to set up
Especially if you get rush delivery
To buff the dmg of the lightning
for fists, I have yet to try demeter (not really interested) but I found hidden fists quite fun to use
But you're also pretty new too, when you get better at the game you might like them more
Demeter are the best fists for raw damage
40 hours is good time, if you ask me
hidden fists + ares attack + athena dash + ares-athena duo melt everything
Aren't you only playing ||heat 3 though||
Ye
woAh
Hm... Which should I aim for first out of Darker Thirst, Brilliant Gemstones, Vintage Nectar, Fated Cthonic Keys, Pitch Black Darkness, and Vanquisher's Keep? (holy crap that's a lot of diamonds needed and I'm sure there's more uses for them yet to come)
I think the first one I took was the one that made darkness into a health upgrade
It's gonna take so long to get all these diamonds @.@
They're all permanent
And it won't take too long
Do stuff on the fated list, some higher ||heats|| with different weapons, it'll add up
Though I think there's an easyish way to get diamonds once you can get to the final area? If you can save up a lot of money
It's random if it's blood or a diamond
Ah
I run golden touch anyway so I'm pretty conservative for the final shop anyway
it's not really an interesting way as it makes your runs harder since it costs a lot of coins
the easiest way imo (other than first clear runs) is through the trader
you unlock permanent deals to get those
gems -> keys -> nectars -> diamonds -> ambrosia (-> blood)
All of those take a lot of effort to collect though, don't they? So it would seem like if you want to get the diamonds/ambrosia/blood more quickly, you'd be wanting to buy them too.
Though I don't know if higher ||heat|| increases the amount of rewards you get
It does not.
it does not take as much time as you'd think
it's not like you build everything from gems, in a run you will aso directly get keys and nectars
wich speed up the process
I mean, yes, that's true, but even so. Don't you need 10 nectars to get a diamond?
yes, but in a complete run you will get quite a lot of gems and keys too, especially with stuff like troves
granted you won't buy a diamond every single run
Hmm, I see
There's also the 15 keys for a Titan Blood deal that shows up periodically, which will help too if you're going for bloods
I never really counted, but I think you get one for every 2-3 runs or so? depends on how far you go and your luck
that too
always have 15 keys (or enough gems for that) for that deal
Does the Chaos Attack Bonus apply to dash attacks?
also don't forget to keep an eye out for your prophecies, some give you good rewards
Should I prioritize unlocking the last mirror segment before I worry about the keys for blood deal though?
@amber cloak should be iirc
dash attack being a type of attack
that's what I did, since it's a one time unlock
and the perks are really useful
Actually I dont think so, just looked it up and Chaos has a specific boon to boost Dash Attack dmg
Pretty sure attack bonuses apply to dash attacks, in general. Dash Attacks may also be boosted separately
So Im assuming Attack Bonus doesnt boost Dash Attack dmg but that one does
still work
attack bonuses apply to all attacks (including dash) but dash bonuses only apply to dash
If a Hammer says it boosts Attack, it will almost certainly only apply to your standing Attack and not a Dash-Strike.
Boons will apply to Dash-Strikes as well (so you still get Status Curses and damage increases on Dash-Strikes).
Shadow Slash, Cursed Slash, neither of those work on the sword's Dash-Strike.
I think largely Exagryph breaks that trend, because the Dash-Strike is so similar to your regular Attack.
Hammers usually do that by altering how the attack works on a basic level, so it makes sense that it wouldn't affect the dash strike.
Chaos' Attack boons do boost Dash-Strikes.
From a balancing perspective though, that makes the Dash Attack Chaos boon strictly worse than the Chaos Attack boon because that one boosts the dash attack AND attack dmg which doesn't makes sense
just beat final boss twice. got a question ||I just used one of the heat gauge skull things and won with it....what exactly did that get me?||
Chaos Lunge boons give much higher bonuses on average.
@amber cloak not necessarily, it depends on the number
They also break Aspect of Demeter wide open.
a more specialized buff with a big % buff is not always worse than a broad buff with a lower % increase
||is it just to reunlock the items I get from the bosses?||
Those resources you get for beating bosses are used in the House and to upgrade weapons.
You can grind everything out without increasing Heat but it will take a much much longer time.
you get a new set of bounties/Weapon for each ||heat level||
When I don't have maxed Death Defiance yet, should I prioritize getting Darkness over getting keys?
also, there are some things that need a certain ||heat level||, but I have yet to open it myself so not sure what's in there
Right, I wasn't sure but it makes sense
@rancid ember I also recommend using the darkness bonus health thing rather than the +3 health per chamber one if you don't have that already
damn, I keep making typos. I'm tired
especially if you're using a weapon that gives you +20% darkness
Really? I didn't think that looked very good, because I'm not getting darkness all that often. Like, I'd be getting a few HP every now and then with an occasional bigger bump, instead of +3 every chamber.
And I only get the bigger bump if I'm lucky
also if you run into a darkness treasure trove
I always thought it felt like if I got +3 every chamber, I'd immediately lose the 3 health I just got lol
I mean, true. That could help offset the HP I lose on the trove lol
+3 every chamber is about +45 in Tartarus alone, tbf
I've considered switching to that perk too, but atm I'm always prioritizing gems over darkness so never actually tried
what was the % regen again?
Though I can't believe I've used stubborn defiance so much until recently and been upgrading not-death-defiances
I have it maxed and its 60% the amount of darkness
60*
hmm, could actually be interesting if you get the chaos/pose boons increasing rewards
also, you'd get some more heals from boss fights after first clear
that too. would always suck to use the +3health/chamber perk and I'd still be down a lot of health after using the fountain after figthing a boss
do keys have a use after unlocking all the weapons and mirror upgrades?
yes
Other than trading?
other than trading
reset the mirror if needed, and trading for more delicious stuff
so no lol
trading being the best part since at some point you will be able to pretty much convert them to any bounty
just got 9:31 any heat boys
oh yeah tradings certainly good but its not really a main intended function of the key ya know
also, during a run and with the right contractor upgrade, key rewards will give you an additional dice for a late mirror perk
I was scared to add the 3 heat for faster enemies, but im postivie it saved like close to 30 secconds, if not more
ohhhh thats good to know nova
at some point, the house contractor gives you access to 4 upgrades, each giving additional rewards for outside run resources rooms
I'm off to sleep, good night guys
Maybe I should speedrun
I've got some really good times trying to go fast, but I haven't tried exclusively to speedrun
Hello everyone !
I have a question : the deadelus affect called 'Reinforced spear' or something like that (who change the Special to shot like a bow) make the spear come back on the shot or not ?
I'm sorry for my bad english ...

Oh hey I just got my first duo boon
Athena and Aphrodite
Imagine if there were Trio or even Quad boons, how many combinations there'd be lol
https://i.imgur.com/oj6Ghvt.png why would i want to "lower" my max shot amount?
that doesnt make sense?
because it trakes to the last enemy you hit
it makes the dps really good if you get a good boon on it
but isnt.. less arrows -> less dmg?
or is the dmg split per arrow
so less arrows = more dmg per arrow
its more so that if you use the regular bow, not all arrows hit. so in tern you lose dps
in this case all hit (unless some hit walls or something)
good for staking status effects or crits
those are the diffrent amounts per lvl. as you lvl it up it gets more arrows that track
yea and thats what i ment
looking at my screenshot above, it sais my special (the tracking attack) has 9 arrows, but when i upgrade its 5?
oohhh thats cause you probably have the zag aspect equiped. the zag has 9 and its saying if you change to this aspect you get 5
gotcha
sorry i was confused lol
Hey, I've started a new save on PC and I can't get Nyx to grant me alternative mirror talents. At first I thought it was because I beat Hades too quickly (18 runs in on that save) but just now I did a save with 11 runs where I purposefully didn't advance past bone hydra and i still cant get her to give me mirror talents
Any ideas or fixes?
hover over the upgrade button
all good
so without hovering over the lvl button its shows
Zag (9) -> Chiron (5)
cuz lvl 2 = 5arrows
I have a question about npc interactions that involve spoilers what chat do I ask that in?
Ok I get it now lol
Gn!
goodluck wit your awnser
Thanks 😊
So this question involves duologue priority for achilles so view at your own risk lol
Lol crap idk how to do spoiler
Sorry I tried to do the spoiler thing but it didn't work
uh huh
oh Im sure its ok for people who have already played through it
I tried to delete it as fast as I could sorry man
Mistakes happen, man.
no mistakes allowed here, im going to sue you for that
last run i was doing 1k damage per crit though, so that was nice
What build?
Mostly just artemis and athena.
Crit chance, mark crit, athena dash + empowered backstabs.
Nice what weapon?
And double shot on bow, with 150% on power shot
Oh lol
With Zag aspect
Damn thats alot of damage
Yeah, and found out a feature of double shot. Since they're two shots, I was taking out armored enemies because I was doing so much damage in one shot
Lol
Oh kinda like hammer upgrades that make attacked hit twice
Yeah, shorter range but you shoot two arrows.
Does it count as 1 attack? Like do both arrows have there own chances of criting
u dont need to do it consistently
im wondering cuz im trying to do it on skelly and 30% of the time, i can do it and 70% of the time it doesnt work
do you get the flash by dashing?
so i look for a flash at the end of the bow wind animation?
not the end, look at zagreus
casually sells Aphro/Athena Duo Boon to grab additional death defiance from minishop
This is a good deal :D
And it gives me a little extra too
It's actually tempting to sell the Heroic Zeuscast too but idk if that's a good idea. Zeuscast bugs me a little bit because chain lightning can mean my original target of a cast doesn't get bloodstone'd
You may now offically call me DEATH GUN look in #h1-victory-boasting if you wanna see what I did
maybe I shouldnt sponsor wins
hm
The ice blast on it was really powerful
I also got a machine gun
a real one
sometimes i wish i could give Daedalus nectar since they're such a swell guy leaving their hammers around lul
why do wringers only appear when you get to the surface for the first time?
OMG WHAT
the special event guy in Elysium just replenished all my uses of Death Defiance o.o
That's
whoa
I wonder if I can actually win this run?! (probably not, but)
...the Lucky Tooth one is replenished too
Baha that's amazing
what are the best gods for a sword cas tbuild
in a run rn, I have artemis cast and athena dash
...welp. I died quite miserably to Asterius and Theseus XD I think a good part of why I did so poorly is because I hate a Chaos "boon" that shortened my dash (and I underestimated how nasty that could be)... I probably shouldn't have entered that chaos gate tbh.
yea that one is tough
i took 2 dash banes once and my dash was literally 0 distance
so i died
...welp. I died quite miserably to Asterius and Theseus XD I think a good part of why I did so poorly is because I hate a Chaos "boon" that shortened my dash (and I underestimated how nasty that could be)... I probably shouldn't have entered that chaos gate tbh.
@rancid ember by the way, attack asterius first, he's much more agressive and theseus is pretty easy to dodge from far away. You dont want to get to theseus's second phase while asterius is still alive
Yeah, I'd been going after Asterius first
any rumors of an expansion or a new god?
honestly think we could use a fire-based god
hephaetus or apollo would be cool
Yo i just joined the server cus i like de hades game
ok cool
Whats yall’s favourite god
aphrodite, biggest damage multipliers and very useful curse
athena and artemis are great too, but my favorite is aphrodite
Athena for boons, Artemis as someone I'd be cool with hanging out with
aphrodite really won everyones heart huh
Its probably part to do with i like purple
purple is a great color in this game
i like nyx bc of that same reason
Wine god whomth name i forgot
For a second i thought you were messing with me
chshdh
Cause the only dio i know is from jojo
dio makes me question my sexuality
ppl call dionysus dio sometimes its funny
Whats yalls most hated gods
ares has a hot appearance design but im not big on war and violence
I hate ares
I hate dionysus because he was the first god to kill me when i knew nothing about the game and found a trial of the gods or whatever it’s called
not that he's bad, but unless I'm specifically going for a doom/blade build he's almost useless
I only got the game like a week ago on my switch
in my opinion dio goes kinda easy on you in trial of gods or heroes fight
easiest one to deal with at least
YES BUT I STILL DIED
understandable
THAT FIRST TIME
was it ur first run
well poseidon killed me the first time, never tried messing with him again lol
so I know how you feel
i made the mistake of not taking a cast special or attack in the first 2 levels because i was greedy for epic or above
i've gone through 2 DD's now
Probably my second favorite god is poseidon i just like him idk also i really like the boons he gives
Wow, I just got 120 darkness from Lerny o.o
only his dash is good, and for farming he's nice too
Does he give 100 base when you beat him after getting his diamond on that weapon?
I believe so, every boss gives darkness after you already claimed the bounty
I know Furies give 50
and in increasing amount, ||hades|| gives a lot
Hmm, good to know!
Yeah i guess
Dash for damage seems not insignificant
highest damage for a dash
I don't like it but it can work
speedrunners use it a lot
feel like you could do more damage with zeus
Whats yalls favorite weapon
although i guess base it does the most damage
Also how many of yall play this game on the switch .-.
I love demeter fists
Can Zeus get you multiple strikes per dash or something? Doesn't Zeusdash have a base damage of like 10?
i do everything base lol
zeus dash with boons can strike multiple times and get jolted on enemies
Ive always been a ranged kinda person but not too much range, so my favorite is spear ofc
but it's something you'd have to build around
Hmm, I see
I like using the default spear and trying to get a epic teir boon from hermes for special to get its speed up alot and just go ham
Anyone gay as I am for Hypnos
ah make sense I am Nonbinary everything is gay. But fair wamen is cool.
Im kinda a tomboy tho
I dont indentify as anything but my true gender of which is wamen
Skelly is best character ok
Lol idk
Skelly is the cool cousin who gives you sweets at the party while he smokes weed in the back
Are the sweets brownies 
😉
Hes probably the kinda person whod put weed in the brownies too
for sure for sure.
Is it just coincidence that Stygius and Exagryph both haven't gotten any Dark Thirsts since I changed their aspect?
I've never gotten a Dark Thirst with Exagryph that I can remember lol
I guess that's fair
Yaay I get to do several encounters using only bow special and Ares Cast because of Chaos Boon >_>
Evening!




