It's eh imo
#h1-discussion
quaint hatch
fervent heart
Every time I mention it people say I'm a crackhead but BIG STACKS is just something that I can't ignore
quaint hatch
Well doom won't benefit from double attack unless you get the boon that lets more hits do doom more damage
So id say drunk
I rather have big damage than big stacks kappa
thorny cairn
Chiron dio is pretty good, no?
Who else would you rather on your special?
Athena and zeus are pretty good too
quaint hatch
Dem
Never Zeus special on chiron
quaint hatch
You could also go aphro on special for the damage
quaint hatch
Dio is ok ye
Just not my fav fun wise
Chrono is probably one of the aspects to most reliably stack it tho ig
Generally everything that benefits from stacks works on chiron
thorny cairn
Imagine if Chronos boons existed β€οΈ
sharp knoll
So uh, ||Dusa got fired by Nyx, and now I'm unable to use her Companion to summon her.|| I can't tell if I'm impressed or mad
quaint hatch
Omg
Totally forgot chronos existed
Yes please
So uh, ||Dusa got fired by Nyx, and now I'm unable to use her Companion to summon her.|| I can't tell if I'm impressed or mad
@sharp knoll no she won't be
You'll get it
light knot
Chronos (the time chtonian god, people confuse it with the titan too often), would be so interesting
quaint hatch
There's no timer on stuff
Just rng dialogue
light knot
Time powers could work so well in the game
light knot
The last sword aspect kinda|| feels like time power with projectiles||
Depends on what you want to do with it
Create zone where time stops, create an effect where the specific mob you hit stops in time after 10 hits, etc.
Multiple things you can do honestly
It would be more about crowd control
near pewter
hey gamers i have a question
when use the second form of the palms (and all other weapon forms) zag just disappears until i move and disappears again when i stop the same thing happenes with the bull boss
and my question is is there a way to fix that or is it supposed to do that?
void vigil
sounds like a question for #h1-tech-support, but have you tried verifying your game files? you can find out how to do that in #h1-tech-fixes
near pewter
oh sorry didnt see that ill try that thank you
blissful mica
Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and make some spoiler requests
Ugh one sec
Okay.. https://imgur.com/a/zQRrd9R
May I ask who I am missing in these 3 photos
It's not just that Olympian gods pic.. I'm also missing a chthonic God and two others of note
unkempt sleet
The first comes from reaching the final boss once. It's ||Demeter||
blissful mica
Ok
unkempt sleet
The second should appear after about 20ish runs, it's ||Thanatos||
unkempt sleet
The third I will check in a moment, hol up
blissful mica
Thank you
unkempt sleet
I know the last one requires you to at least beat the game
blissful mica
In others of note?
blissful mica
Word. And the one at 20ish runs is the chthonic?
unkempt sleet
He has more chances to spawn in later biomes (except tge last one)
Oh the first one in others of note is the Elysium NPC
blissful mica
Wait is ||thanatis death||?
crisp zodiac
No, it doesn't take 20 runs to meet Thanatos, and that's not a spoiler.
blissful mica
||j saw him in elysium but lost the competition to kill more monsters than he does (I was using twin fists which I suck with)?.. I guess you have to beat him to get his codex entry.||
ivory magnet
Can anyone tell me where on earth I got the boon that restored health when killing an enemy with my special? I've not seen it since and the only similar one has been restoring health based on normal attack hits
crisp zodiac
He can appear in chamber 23 or beyond the first time.
blissful mica
Ugh
unkempt sleet
He does take a number of runs to encounter him tho
crisp zodiac
Nicky, those aren't boons. They're Daedelus Hammer upgrades.
blissful mica
Whoops....
crisp zodiac
The special one is for Malphon. The one that reduces your max life and healing, but heals for 2 on attack, is for Stygius.
unkempt sleet
You needvto talk to him at the house for the codex entry I think, he's in he Achilles hallway at the bottom
ivory magnet
@crisp zodiac ah I see, that makes more sense thanks π Yeah it was Malphon that I got it
crisp zodiac
You don't need to win against Thanatos to get his codex entry if you speak to him in the house.
blissful mica
Usually you don't have to necessarily have to defeat the npc to get their codex entry. Sucks that you have ro for this one as this one is a rare encounter
ivory magnet
The Sygius health one was useful but by the time I got to the very end I was losing too much health while attacking, before that I was just destroying everything in my path but that's because I don't have that enemy's patterns down yet
blissful mica
Bummer.
crisp zodiac
We literally just told you that you don't.
blissful mica
Wait
crisp zodiac
Also, beating him is usually easy.
thorny cairn
Harder in Elysium π¦
blissful mica
Apologies
I had no idea there was another person in the house this entire time hahaha wtf..
Missed him for 26 runs
Wait
I dont see anyone
balmy ginkgo
Olympian favor or dark foresight?
blissful mica
Never have before either
ivory magnet
I've only seen him in the house a few times but he definitely appears
thorny cairn
I just asked that last night, Adrian
crisp zodiac
Usually, by Elysium, I have the boons to blitz things down quickly enough. My Thanatos contest losses come when I've been offered no offensive boons except from Poseidon, I took the cast to keep my strike and special open for others, and Asphodel throws me nine jerks with high health and armor.
unkempt sleet
He appears always after you defeat him or has a small chance if you don't
thorny cairn
I personally dont think the legendaries are THAT good that it's worth doing, personally
I like the +40% rare too much
crisp zodiac
Favor is 40% rare.
crisp zodiac
You're thinking of the wrong talents.
thorny cairn
That happens to me
crisp zodiac
Yeah, rarity chances increase as you go.
thorny cairn
Cool, is there a doc which shows the percent increase, perchance?
crisp zodiac
Explore the house fully every time, talking to everyone. Also, you can purchase some surveillance bats that can let you see the whole house at once.
Not to my knowledge, nope.
thorny cairn
Get a bat's eye view!
blissful mica
Ugh. I hate that the one time I've "battled" him, I was equipped with the twin fists..
Would have won with literally any other weapon
crisp zodiac
Aspect of Zagreus Malphon, without upgrades, is passable. With the right hammers, any Malphon can be great.
blissful mica
Just in case he shows up, when you say down the hall from Achilles you mean the end opposite from hades' bedroom?
crisp zodiac
Yes.
blissful mica
Twin fists are bae, though!
@thorny cairn I just can't figure them out
crisp zodiac
Overlooking Styx.
blissful mica
Thank you Noah
thorny cairn
That's cool, RR, everyone's got different styles
I can't stand the gun, for example, even though I know it's 'good'
blissful mica
Cannot wait for psychonauts 2 btw!!
crisp zodiac
Press button to punch.
Press other button to punch differently.
Don't get hit.
???
Profit.
ivory magnet
For me the gun only got useful once I got the triple special shot
blissful mica
Gonna be a great, proper trippy game π
I dont like how much proximity you gotta have with the rists
ivory magnet
Second aspect of the fists helps a lot with that, pulls enemies in
crisp zodiac
It's fine as you learn enemy attack patterns.
blissful mica
I find that I do my best with then when I spam dash-attack and throw in extra attacks as well
It's fine as you learn enemy attack patterns.
@crisp zodiac true
ivory magnet
pull in, hit a few times, dash behind and attack from the back with a rear-damage booster and you can do a lot of damage. Especially in Elysium if you add armour damage to that
thorny cairn
Yass
Cannot wait for psychonauts 2 btw!!
@blissful mica yasss not gonna be out for a minute
I also think ||bear claws|| are OP, once you get that far
ivory magnet
Every time I think I've got an insane OP build I get overconfident and die somewhere silly
thorny cairn
SAME nicky
crisp zodiac
Not as much as Aspect of Demeter, but they're nice.
blissful mica
I'm probably gonna be a lot better with them tomorrow.. I've been awake for far too long, struggling to keep my eyes open atm. Usually when I exhaustively put a lot of work into a thing I tend to do way better with whatever it is after sleeping on it
thorny cairn
It's like, I can definitely do this extra hard chamber in styx
DIES TO ||RAT KING||
ivory magnet
Yeah, going for things you would usually just ignore because it's not worth the reward or just charging straight into certain bosses
crisp zodiac
To be fair, ||Vermin King|| is harder than the final boss.
blissful mica
Every time I think I've got an insane OP build I get overconfident and die somewhere silly
@NickyDrinks#560 not every time for me but I have been there and can relate
ivory magnet
Phase 2 of final is just where I can't quite do it yet but I'm close I think
blissful mica
Alright I gotta go to work (I wake up when working instead of sitting down playing video games or typing away on discord living that sedentary lifestyle)
I'll see you all around
And remember
Just one more run.
thorny cairn
Bye, bud!
thorny cairn
Do you actually think so? I personally agree, with some weapons for sure
To be fair, ||Vermin King|| is harder than the final boss.
@crisp zodiac
blissful mica
Lol later
ivory magnet
I did that for 9 hours the first time I loaded the game! Laters
crisp zodiac
In general, yeah. The predictability is similar, but one is much faster than the other . . .
brisk trail
The last couple runs I don't get Nectar anymore, anyone else experiencing that ?
leaden patio
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gusty slate
RNG is pretty mean
thick swallow
Not too easy
Itβs effectively damage resistance that gets better each time you die in a run
thick swallow
Itβs so more people can enjoy the game
thick swallow
I started off with god mode, and while Iβm fine to play without it, it helped a ton in getting me to keep coming back
leaden patio
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quaint hatch
That's awesome :D
hybrid gazelle
yeah I have hardware limitations (no controller, ocassionally some lag) and godmode really helped me out at first when I was having to play the game w a trackpad
and so many of my non-gamer friends have been drawn to play the game when I told them there was godmode
balmy ginkgo
how much value do i need to get out of pireced butterfly to make it worth?
quaint hatch
That's automatically turning on hell mode xD
If you do a butterfly run you only play butterfly the entire run
Same with feather
hybrid gazelle
likewise that the fists (and some other dedalus boons) allow you to hold down the mouse/button instead of having to click fast
leaden patio
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gusty slate
Although, any damage boost can help
brisk trail
@balmy ginkgo what's more valuable, the damage boost or not getting hit like 5 times
From acorn
The final boss does like 50 damage a hit so yeah
gusty slate
I get hit too much to use acorn effectively, but I can't use butterfly at all tbh LOL
brisk trail
I think if your build has good base damage you can get away with butterfly
As long as you don't get hit by an Add
It's worth
You can negate like 250 damage
That's so good
high island
48% is very rare. You'd want like 30% at least to make it worthwhile.
brisk trail
That's what I was thinking
I just like switching my keepsake too much to use butterfly often
tame maple
Man, I am currently sitting at 60 clears, have almost all achievements and Fated List is almost completed, but ||Orpheus just won't teach me how to play that Lyre||. Any tips? π ||I play the thing at the beginning of every run, but it just won't trigger..||
gusty slate
It's a lot of plays
I think someone said ||200?|| don't quote me on it though. It took me forever playing 3 before every run lol
hybrid gazelle
omg good to know
tame maple
Wow, okay π
gusty slate
That's to complete the whole line though
He'll talk to you in the middle of it... 2/3 times?
tame maple
It's the only prophecy still on my list, haha
hybrid gazelle
any tips besides ||"keep fishing"|| for the ||fishing|| achievement? I can't for the life of me get ||a rare fish||
brisk trail
you have to get a perfect catch to get a very rare fish
which means you have to press the button with good reaction time
tame maple
Do you use controller or mkb? ||Getting the rarest fish is apparently easier to time on controller||
gusty slate
There's the 3 fakeout max rule. It'll bob 3 fake times max, so the 4th one has to be a fish. Use the light/sound/vibration(controller?) indicator to haul in fish
obtuse zephyr
Maybe equip the Poseidon keepsake to try to the fishing legendary more often?
hybrid gazelle
oh okay good to know that that's the hold up
there's a bug where my controller won't work on my version
obtuse zephyr
You can get a wired xbox controller for like $20
hybrid gazelle
I may end up using my wife's computer for this one achievement then
I have controllers, they just aren't working
and I've seen other people w the same issue in tech support
eventually they'll figure out the problem and patch it
brisk trail
If they're not xinput controllers (xbox), it might be worth it to try converting them to xinput, there's software for that online
hybrid gazelle
okay I'll try
obtuse zephyr
I have a ps4 controller but the software to convert it is finicky at best, at least for me. I ended up just buying an xbox controller
brisk trail
I personally use a Wii U Pro controller lol
For some reason the driver software for Nintendo controllers is much cleaner than for e.g. dualshock
storm talon
I use the ds4, ds4windows is what Ive used to map it and it's worked great so far
I just really like the PlayStation layout so it's been my go to controller
brisk trail
(I use WiinUPro for the pro controller, I think it supports most wii u and switch controllers)
quaint hatch
Pro controller is so much better than ps4
opaque canopy
Is there any way to see the dialogues you have with a specific character in game? There wasn't anything in the rules about talking about datamining, and I wanted to see a specific conversation again
quaint hatch
There is no dialogue record in game afaik
ebon pier
theseus arterius bromance
fierce belfry
a
tame maple
You actually have all the lines stored on your computer, at least in text. If you browse to where the game is installed (Through Stream; right click on hades > manage > browse local files), you can find spreadsheets of every character under Hades > Content > Subtitles
shrewd valve
Ok I came up with this question when I woke up and I kept thinking about it fo the rest of the day.
Hypnos' house job has nothing to do with his god stuff, so does he have like 2 jobs then??
Is thats why he is sleeping all the time cause he is busy with his god job of making people sleep and maybe collecting dreams or something?? Like he kinda owns almost half of people their lives, so that can be busy right?
fervent heart
Well, there's two explanations.
- Hypnos does god stuff in his sleep, because he is the god of sleep and dreams and stuff.
- Hypnos is actually just narcoleptic and DOESN'T ACTUALLY INTEND to fall asleep all the time, it just happens and he can't help it.
quaint hatch
Since he is sleep I'd say both
I imagine him just doing it cause he likes sleeping and doesn't give a f
fierce belfry
bruh escaping is annoying lore wise
like
you fall down to tartarus
then you have to go all the way up
and tartarus is supposed to be a pit
raven lava
and tartarus is supposed to be a pit
you literally take the service elevator
native ravine
jolly river
@quaint hatch Yeah I did all the reqs, at least I think
quaint hatch
Sry regarding to what again
jolly river
||The aspect for the spear||
novel wasp
jolly river
I have done all the prerequs, but I just cant unlock it
And I feel like achilles is not gonna tell me about it ever
dusty path
Hello all. Dead Cells player starting Hades for the first time
465 hours of Dead Cells and Iβm ready for something new
robust sundial
YAY ! Orpheus offered me a Lyre !
tepid plover
Hello fellow shades!
robust sundial
and now Dusa wants to Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler... 
tepid plover
They should include rarity and levels in security log
That definitely needs some working
Also being able to hover items
quaint hatch
@tepid plover Welcome back
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P6oZ6i8zmY6s7PM_AkX_g6bjZ601iP_xi9CxzEpujJ4/edit?usp=sharing
And I feel like achilles is not gonna tell me about it ever
@jolly river then it's just rng dialogue
Only thing you can do is more runs :/
distant siren
curious, on the erbus missions, does hermes artefact and the gloves titan skill carry into those challanges?
gusty slate
I believe plume works in there
tepid plover
Back to the drinking game starring vo1di
quaint hatch
I don't want to be responsible for making you an alcoholic
brisk trail
Bruh, he's the god of alcoholism already
tepid plover
tepid plover
velvet grove
Hades reminds me of my own rather so many times
It's scary
I'm so glad the team went for this and not "HAHAH HELL BADDD"
grim wadi
Rip, came back from work and played 3 runs today (took breaks in between), won the first run (in career), second run died to Hydra and third run died to final boss ||second hp bar|| with zeus shield
i was hoping to win twice
tepid plover
Unless you're a warrior and belong in elysium
zinc nymph
Hey everyone, do you guys know if it's possible to remove an upgrade from a weapon? I upgraded my Eternal Spear with a move that makes you dash right after you use your special. The thing is, I think that makes the weapon way less appealing to me, since I can not use the special several times on an enemy and always dash away. =/
quaint hatch
But the remove is random
void vigil
do you mean daedalus hammers or aspects? because if you click on zagreus aspect again, you can go back to it
tepid plover
Oh
Those are permanent
You can quickly quit the game if you didnt leave the courtyard, and it will go back to the save
But eventually you will unlock everything regardless so isnt really a big deal
quaint hatch
But you cann freely switch between them outside of runs
Just interact with the empty weapon spot after you picked one up
zinc nymph
It's permanent tho, I can not swap Aspects.
tepid plover
Yes you can swap
quaint hatch
Once it's unlocked you can freely swap
tepid plover
At the courtyard
You should be able to do so in the courtyard
Click the spear again and it will bring all the aspects
zinc nymph
Ohh, okay got it. So even if I upgraded Aspect of Achilles I can just use Aspect of Zagreus instead on a run.
Okay, that works.
zinc nymph
Okay, I'm good now haha. I thought I had permanently made my spear super annoying. π
warped rune
i always die on the stupid fourth level i hate it
zinc nymph
Thanks guys
tepid plover
Also fun fact about achilles, you dont necessarily need to do the dash, if you attack while the spear is out the spear will come back to you just like normal aspect
You just dash if you press special again
quaint hatch
But you won't get the buff
tepid plover
^
zinc nymph
Right, but my way of going on a run is basically selecting Spear and smashing the X button, lol. Achilles does not let me do that haha
zinc nymph
I always just go for focused only on one ability on a run, either attack or special. I found that works best for me.
tepid plover
Thats not a bad mentality, but usually need to adapt
Thanks to rng
But hey. If it been working for you by all means
zinc nacelle
is orpheus male or female
tepid plover
Male
tepid plover
He does look like one
zinc nacelle
the voice actor is 100% female
tepid plover
Hes supposed to have a beautiful voice
Now his look, idk how they came up with that
plain hill
Hmm, maybe it's because I was familiar with the myth but I never even considered he liked female
tepid plover
He does
zinc nymph
My combination of booms on a run is always
Dash & Special or Dash & Attack.
void vigil
orpheus' speaking voice and singing voice are both men
plain hill
Voice actor is called Michael, so p sure that's male
zinc nymph
that way if i'm going a run thinking on upgrade my special I will never choose an attack boom
zinc nymph
and if i dont'have a good option for a boom of the ability i'm focused on, then I choose dash or another generic boom
tepid plover
Racca, as long as it works, keep doing it, youre doing good
plain hill
Genuinely no idea what you're talking about lol. It's a nice voice yes, but I wouldn't call it female sounding /shrug/
vast cradle
He's glam rock. Think David Bowie
plain hill
Dudes can have nice voices too :p
nocturne reef
still a weird disconnect for me between the VA voice and Darren's singing voice
zinc nacelle
its just sounds very very feminine
zinc nymph
all the VA on the game is amazing! The entire cast is perfect IMO.
tepid plover
I'm not hating or anything or complaining, but orpheus does look and sound like a female
I do like it tho
Agreed with racca
plain hill
don't see it myself, but like I said, since I'm familiar with the myth it's entirely possible I'm colored by prior knowledge Β―\_(γ)_/Β―
tepid plover
True
indigo canopy
yeah i thought orpheus was a female, even despite knowing it was a man from the myth, i thought it might have just been a creative liberty like medusa being the house maid
nocturne reef
ditto for me too, I don't think he's particularly feminine imo but can see how people could see it that way
tepid plover
I like that tho, his voice is pretty
flint lodge
I thought they were pretty clear that Dusa was distinct from Madusa?
tepid plover
Correct
slow spindle
common sense
zinc nymph
Honestly first thing I thought when I see Orpheus was like... Sandman, is that you? lol
zinc nacelle
good that some of you agree lol
tepid plover
Maidusa
flint lodge
@vale drift : Dusa and Madusa are distinct, right?
indigo canopy
dionysus v artemis, which boon should i pick for the easier battle?
nocturne reef
I prefer artemis myself
flint lodge
....
indigo canopy
||achilles|| varantha
flint lodge
I would assume Artemis benefits from having lots of distinct hits
tepid plover
Artemis should do just fine
flint lodge
more chances for crit
nocturne reef
yeh
nocturne reef
can't say no to crit
flint lodge
I... haven't been able to convince myself that the math works out
indigo canopy
no its the double boon arena, which should i pick first for an easier ecounter i mean ahaha
nocturne reef
oh
nocturne reef
dionysus
tepid plover
I mean he is ez too, but art is easier i feel
flint lodge
I know they do a great job of balancing stuff, but the crit boosts always feel tiny.
nocturne reef
they build up
flint lodge
I'm thinking of the boon that gives you like <5% chance to crit
tepid plover
Thats peer pressure
nocturne reef
I don't think that one's worth it unless it's at least epic
tepid plover
Thats on all dmg tho
It is always worth imo
2% on all dmg is not the best
But it works
Also you can pom it up
flint lodge
That sounds so inconsequential
nocturne reef
true
flint lodge
And when it hits, it does what.... 200% damage at base?
light harness
ARE WE READY FOR THE CONCERT, FAMILY!?
nocturne reef
yeah π
nocturne reef
love it when my special crit damage goes over 1k
light harness
Or even more.
love it when my special crit damage goes over 1k
@nocturne reef That has happened to you? π
flint lodge
heh, 4 figure damage does feel really good...
nocturne reef
adamant rail+rocket with artemis special
tepid plover
My max crit has been 1.2k with ||arthur||
vale drift
Syndic, do you mean Medusa?
tepid plover
Maidusa
flint lodge
I thought I read in the codex that they were distinct
tepid plover
Hey Greg, thanks for the beautifully crafted game, just wanted to let you know
Well done to the whole team
Give me a paid dlc and you have my money
nocturne reef
every game be lovely from supergiant β€οΈ
tepid plover
Agreed
vale drift
I like to say the game is the canon; please don't look to me for "tiebreakers" about what is true in the world of the game. It's all in the game itself.
indigo canopy
thanathonk
nocturne reef
than thinking
vale drift
It's a general response to Syndic's question above.
flint lodge
Ahh. Sorry for poking you then.
wild helm
Hello everyone
wild helm
I just hit 25 escape attempts and I still can't beat Hades
Am I doomed to fail forever
nocturne reef
that's ok it took me 38 attempts
wild helm
Hehehehe
plain hill
I wanted cool swag from the concert but it doesn't ship to the US π¦
flint lodge
took me 30 attempts
carmine ravine
spoiler@wild helm
plain hill
I was so excited
tepid plover
Jk, just try again and again
nocturne reef
is there no escape? 
wild helm
What's the concert?
plain hill
@wild helm check #announcements
wild helm
Thank
zealous galleon
i beat final boss on my 25th attempt I think
visual ridge
Is ||Hades being the final boss really a spoiler though? He's the game's namesake after all||
zealous galleon
it's weird because like
plain hill
Final boss is spoilers in this channel I think
zealous galleon
my first 10 or so attempts were me being stuck in the first map
carmine ravine
plz spoiler tag the final boss@zealous galleon
wild helm
Okay, very sorry
dusk night
Is it wrong that I spend more time with Supergiant Games than my family these days? 
plain hill
there's a difference between thinking that's probably it and knowing so
zealous galleon
oops sorry Alpha
dusk night
the games themselves i mean obviously
visual ridge
Eh true enough
nocturne reef
I was mostly just playing the game at my own pace
tepid plover
Final boss is spoilers even in steam
wild helm
I'm here because I wanted to express my love for this game. Holy crap. I have not played a game this charming and this engrossing in so long
tepid plover
It specifically says battling the final boss instead of the name
nocturne reef
there's no number you HAVE to make an escape at
dusk night
would love to spend time with the devs someday tho, absolute inspirations, much love
wild helm
RIGHT
zealous galleon
it's a roguelike. play at your own pace
tepid plover
Do it again and again
wild helm
Idk if anyone else has played Kid Icarus: Uprising but this game gives me major KI: U vibes
tepid plover
I'm over 200 attempts
zealous galleon
i normally don't enjoy Roguelikes because I always hate dying in games even if it doesn't have any real consequences, but Hades is the first game where I actually enjoy dying
indigo canopy
yeah im on my 24/25 run and still havent beaten it yet ||gotten to like super low hades second phase but sadly no W yet||
dusk night
im at over 200 attempts across all my saves now, can never get enough
tepid plover
Dying in hades is cool, cause you get to progress the story
nocturne reef
I think my playing has been a bit obsessive though, it's only been a couple of weeks since I got it....
dusk night
^^
nocturne reef
it def helps me overcome my anxiety over failure
wild helm
Yeah i'm playing a lot more of Hades than I am of Spelunky 2 because of the constant story progression
zealous galleon
I'm at my fiftieth or so attempt now and I'm worried I'm about to beat the game soon, I'm not the kind of person who likes to 100% games (so get all the achievements), I generally dip out after finishing the story
dusty path
About to start. Anything I should know as a beginner?
indigo canopy
its a good gameplay loop, you win? pog. you lose? mmm story
dusk night
Same Dionysus just a few minor things for me to unlock on my main but have practically unlocked everything at this point
nocturne reef
I mean, it's a roguelike so
plain hill
@zealous galleon Im' on attempt like 74 and still haven't finished the story
tbf I'm not gunning for the epilogue
nocturne reef
there's more to do after
wild helm
@dusty path Just remember - there is no escape
nocturne reef
like
plain hill
but yeah, there's a lot to do
nocturne reef
a lot
dusty path
Just got through finishing Dead Cells and heard this was good
zealous galleon
I'm worried though because I've already noticed that certain characters are running out of lines to say
nocturne reef
@dusty path have fun don't sweat it too hard
dusk night
shows about to start 
nocturne reef
if you don't like the gameplay and want to get to the story just turn on god mode
zealous galleon
when ||Hades achieves his second form|| he doesn't say anything to me anymore
tepid plover
Cause he's mad
dusty path
Yeah Iβm hoping for a Dead Cells like experience from a Diablo camera perspective
tepid plover
wild helm
I honestly think Dead Cells is harder than Hades but maybe that's just me
zealous galleon
when I encounter the boss of the third map, they just say one line and fight instead of having a conversation like before
tepid plover
Meh
nocturne reef
YELL BUILD THAT WALL
zealous galleon
I honestly think Dead Cells is harder than Hades but maybe that's just me
@wild helm I agree, but I enjoy Hades so much more
tepid plover
when I encounter the boss of the third map, they just say one line and fight instead of having a conversation like before
@zealous galleon they are exhausted
dusty path
Well I could use a mental break after that game. lol. 465 hours. Looking for my next big game
zealous galleon
unfortunately yeah
zealous galleon
I'm just worried characters like Nyx are gonna run out of lines what do I do then π
tepid plover
No one talks to me anymore 
indigo canopy
everytime you progress in hades, its like 100x easier to get back to where you were
wild helm
Holy crap that's impressive. You've come to the right place. Hades is similar enough that it's going to scratch that same itch, but different enough that you can certainly spend another 400 hours here @dusty path
zealous galleon
everytime you progress in hades, its like 100x easier to get back to where you were
@indigo canopy yeah I had this too
dusty path
@wild helm Nice. Thatβs what Iβm hoping
indigo canopy
i remember using a dd and being low health when i first beat meg
zealous galleon
after you beat a certain map or boss, you have an easier time beating them next time
indigo canopy
ive beaten ||the champs|| multiple times and i still havent got through without using a dd
late plover
brooooo im missing 1 piece of gold to get a boon at the shop, right before a boss fight too
dusty path
Naughty naughty. Lol
zealous galleon
I remember feeling so weak because I had all these gods and even ||ancient heroes and primordial beings and stuff|| helping me and yet I still couldn't beat certain maps or (mini)bosses but now I go through them easily
indigo canopy
250 health at elysium, max health run π
visual ridge
I beat ||ultimate hades|| for the first time the other day. Can't believe ||he called cerberus on me 0//_//O||
dusk night
@wild helm I agree Mr Snub i find Dead Cells much more difficult, but for me its cause its more of a platformer, which is one category of games I'm awful at
zealous galleon
I just wish there was a way to make Zagreus stronger in ways that aren't just run specific (boons from gods) or ||Nyx's mirror, because technically you're just getting buffed by Nyx instead of becoming stronger yourself||
tepid plover
You should be able to lift bouldy
zealous galleon
Like, it doesn't matter if you're at the beginning of the game or end, technically Zagreus is just as strong as he always has been and you'd expect the son of Hades to be much more powerful
nocturne reef
I've gotten to the point where I mostly can keep my dds until the final boss fight
dusty path
Hmm. I would say platforming is the least focused on aspect of Dead Cells. But I understand why someone might have your opinion. The traversal can be tricky to master
thorn tendon
ugh
nocturne reef
if not I hope I get a special room in elysium lol
thorn tendon
okay I don't think perfect catches are possible
tepid plover
Like, it doesn't matter if you're at the beginning of the game or end, technically Zagreus is just as strong as he always has been and you'd expect the son of Hades to be much more powerful
Hes wiser
dusk night
even just the game in general is more difficult imo
zealous galleon
the power scaling in the game is kind of off anyway because ||you can beat Hades yet it looks like the Olympian gods are far far faaar more powerful than you||
dusty path
Word
tepid plover
Imp. They are
thorn tendon
I literally hit it as the thing went under on the correct bob and it wasn't a perfect
I think there's too much lag on my keyboard input or some nonsense
nocturne reef
zag's more level headed
dusty path
@dusk night Iβm about to start Hades right now so Iβm not sure how it compares just yet
nocturne reef
that's his super power
zealous galleon
Like legit I promise you ||hades|| could probably not beat elysium lmao
thorn tendon
(I got the catch, it just didn't say Perfect Catch)
tepid plover
I pretty much always get perfect catch
visual ridge
Yeah, why is ||Hades defeatable full power but the gods seem more powerful?||
zealous galleon
yeah that's what Im wondering spacepillow
dusk night
Well from plenty of experience in both im sure you'll find Hades easier to be real with you
thorn tendon
||Hades is on the surface and it's implied that ALL The Cthontic gods get sick and start to die out there||
nocturne reef
I wait for the light flicker at the tell for fishing
fallen pond
cuz hades a bish
nocturne reef
I don't trust the bobs
dusty path
Well Iβm gonna get started. Nice to meet everyone
dusk night
but who knows you may struggle more than some in a way @dusty path
thorn tendon
||so he's not actually at full power, he's got the same harglbargle "Natural Causes" sickness that Zag does||
zealous galleon
@thorn tendon true but Zagreus' power does not change
dusk night
take care and good luck mate
thorn tendon
||And he's been standing out there staring at fish for longer than Zag||
dusty path
β
tepid plover
Lmfao staring at fish
zealous galleon
so why does ||Hades become weaker but Zagreus doesn't until he dies||
tepid plover
"That one is mocking me"
thorn tendon
||Well, we don't know that he dosn't start to lose power once he gets to Persephone π It's implied that Hades has been standing out in the cold for a while -- possibly since when you got to Styx||
sharp rain
the bossfight is immediately outside of the gates, they're both at full power
tepid plover
Let me fight hades in the courtyard
the bossfight is immediately outside of the gates, they're both at full power
That is still outside Greece, not the underworld
thorn tendon
whoops, swore
nocturne reef
||why zag doesn't immediately die is kinda story spoilers||
tepid plover
Vullain wdym
thorn tendon
||If a Fish spawns, Hades has a line about how he's been staring at the dang fish for a while like "to heck with you, fish."||
robust sundial
@tepid plover there's a whole ||garden|| you could use for practice, but nooo... you gotta have that weird ||skeleton|| on your ||balcony|| 
sharp rain
That is still outside Greece, not the underworld
@tepid plover maybe the fates know that they're still at their doorstep and turn a blind eye π
tepid plover
No joke
thorn tendon
anyway how do I suck less at fishing, besides possibly installing a cheat x_X
sharp rain
close your eyes
thorn tendon
because I genuinely think my reaction time is just at .34 seconds and will never get better
narrow hemlock
use a controller with vibrate
tepid plover
||If a Fish spawns, Hades has a line about how he's been staring at the dang fish for a while like "to heck with you, fish."||
||That one has been mocking me|| I loved that line
narrow hemlock
well rip
nocturne reef
just watch for the light don't look for the bob
sharp rain
also get a controller, the game is pretty much made for a controller
narrow hemlock
i perfect catch all the time with the help of vibration
robust sundial
@thorn tendon make yoga, improve reflexes, relax body and mind, be one with the stick.
thorn tendon
so unless someone's gonna give me a controller
sharp rain
oh damn, sorry to hear that
tepid plover
I cant stand controller
nocturne reef
seriously I just watch for the light
robust sundial
mkb ftw !
tepid plover
Hell yeah
thorn tendon
I mean I want a controller lol for Star Wars Squadrons, but I have no money for that either
tepid plover
F
thorn tendon
I'm just glad I got Hades in Early Access and forgot about it
nocturne reef
oh nice
thorn tendon
so like all these years later I'm like OH I DO OWN THAT LAWL
nocturne reef
I specifically waited until it wasn't on sale on the switch and got it
tepid plover
Honestly, I wish I started playing after 1.0
robust sundial
whenever I see the light I die a little bit inside I get a knee jerk reaction and my whole body pushes on the E button like I've been Jolted by some lighting god or somesuch.
tepid plover
Same
thorn tendon
@tepid plover That's the other reason I waited tbh, I knew the game was gonna be kinda unpolished
nocturne reef
because I like to pay full price for quality games
thorn tendon
and then I forgot I owned it
tepid plover
Oh the game wasn't unpolished lol
nocturne reef
also I love supergiant and will give them all my money
tepid plover
Game was pretty much complete gameplay wise
thorn tendon
And yeah I supported it early access because it doesn't matter what Supergiant does if they're like "we maek gaem" I'm like HAVE MONEAY
if I have money
robust sundial
my codex is now full for most of the fishes except those in ||Chaos Rooms|| because they're cowards ! I only ever get ||Projellies|| and have no idea what the others look like.
nocturne reef
I was mostly waiting because I didn't have time to play and then 1.0 was out and I was like oh nice timing
tepid plover
I'm only missing the rare Greece fish, cause whenever I win, theres no fish
robust sundial
got two of those spoilers in a row
nocturne reef
greece fish are so much harder to come by now...
tepid plover
Yeah
thorn tendon
what's the noise it makes when you can get fish
tepid plover
Splash
thorn tendon
like is it a ding or a loud spash
tepid plover
thorn tendon
oh balls
robust sundial
you mean the sound when entering a room with a fishing point ? that's a Ding.
random plume
when you die at the easiest part
thorn tendon
no, I mean when you're supposed to reel it in
tepid plover
All my perfect catches in tartarus are knuckleheads
robust sundial
same tbh
tepid plover
Is a splash noise
thorn tendon
I do catch a lot of knuckleheads, maybe I'm getting perfects without realizing
tepid plover
Lmfao
thorn tendon
execpt I only ever get chlams in elysium so who even knows
nocturne reef
all I seem to get is knuckleheads in tartarus
robust sundial
getting a ||scyllascion|| is a festive occasion.
tepid plover
all I seem to get is knuckleheads in tartarus
This^^^^
nocturne reef
I catch mostly charp in elysium
robust sundial
for the longest time I only caught ||charps|| in ||elysium|| but now all I get is ||seamares|| for some reason.
tepid plover
I dont remember whens the last time I got a ||scyllascion|| or hellfish I believe is the other one
Is all knuckleheads
zealous galleon
hellfish was my second fish
nocturne reef
lol
robust sundial
||slavugs & flameaters||are also hard to come by these days.
thorn tendon
can you see what you've caught so far during a run
tepid plover
I get a lot fo flameaters
zealous galleon
slavug was my first one lmao
tepid plover
No you cant
thorn tendon
dangit
tepid plover
Only at the chef
zealous galleon
i never got knuckleheads
tepid plover
Slavug is asphodel
robust sundial
||chrusteaceans|| being cute, I don't mind much
thorn tendon
I have a... problem that severely affects my short term memory and this game is sure mean about that sometimes
was so happy when I unlocked records and could see what bounties I actually earned from where
robust sundial
@thorn tendon don't think so, only when giving them to the ||head chef||
random plume
VICTORY IS MINE AAAHAHAHA
nocturne reef
congrats?
random plume
I beat them all
nocturne reef
congrats!
random plume
time to win again
tepid plover
And again
nocturne reef
and again
quaint hatch
But not the fourth time
zealous galleon
No, that time you get killed by that stupid shield & spear guy in elysium
zealous galleon
I find them the hardest game boss
tepid plover
No, that time you get killed by that stupid shield & spear guy in elysium
I die to his friend, not him
nocturne reef
nah death by butterfly ball
brisk trail
Yea, that was quite annoying. The only two minibosses that make me use my ||Companion Antos|| are butterfly ball and teleporting witch.
quaint hatch
They are the easiest to handle in there
@random plume curb your arrogance
tepid plover
How about teleporting butterfly ball
thorn tendon
oh my gosh so the Zeus Shield? Anything that does effects On Special is silly
because it seems to tick per hit
quaint hatch
Well yes
thorn tendon
Athena Special makes the Witch room SILLY
just plonk it in the middle and watch them kill themselves
quaint hatch
Would be weird otherwise wouldn't it?
thorn tendon
I suppose so, I'm still just delighted
quaint hatch
It's fun what you can do with a flying hitbox
thorn tendon
the ARtemis one that firs arrows per hit? ARROW ARROW ARROW ARROW
Haven't gotten Hangover on it yet but I bet that's fun
quaint hatch
Create a no zone
thorn tendon
yesss
quaint hatch
I love that I can just kite it behind me and brain afk
Now the only button I use is dash
thorn tendon
oh yes that's super fun
Currently on a run with the Ares dash and Dio Aid, so my Dash becomes this swirly ring of death
(Related note: love how Hades complains about you spilling wine on his clothes if you hit him with Trippy Shot or Dio Aid)
quaint hatch
Free wine for later
thorn tendon
just waiting for him to yell at me about my drinking problem or something lol
quaint hatch
I'm disappointed by ares dash ever since playing hunting blades
livid tundra
did anyone watching the orchestra live stream see all the comments abt front facing than π
tiny tundra
Im kind of upset that the chaos aspect of the sheild is so bad. I really like the idea of it, but because the βbonus sheildsβ arent real, none of the improvements that affect the special work at all. How fun would it be if zag caught all the bonus sheilds and each one caused the explosion on catch if you got that upgrade? I got the bonus bounces upgrade and that doesnt work on the bonus chaos shields either! It just feels really bad and i regret upgrading it all the way π¦
quaint hatch
Why haven't you pinged me dio
tepid plover
Yiu haven't said random or rng lately, im displeased
quaint hatch
It was they way with the bonus shield before afaik and that would be op
Although
I would kind of like that
tepid plover
Not liking something doesnt make it bad
quaint hatch
I had no reason to
^
Especially true In hades
Aside from that I identify as chaos shield
tepid plover
Def my fav aegis aspect as well
quaint hatch
@tiny tundra the secret is that the bounce hammer is not very effective
Especially on chaos
livid tundra
@buoyant merlin I think you gotta wait til the stream is over to get the chat replay n timestamps
I'll find it once its done
buoyant merlin
Ty
balmy ginkgo
how many floors do i need to clear perfectly to justify butterfly?
how much % makes it good / worth using?
buoyant merlin
I think itβs more reasonable to use with a long range weapon
Idk what number to justify itβs worth
Holly crap the live version of good riddance is enchanting
balmy ginkgo
i dont think it really matters with what you use as long as you dodge
anyway at what % does it become good / worth a slot?
anyone knows a number?
tepid plover
As long as you win, it was worth
balmy ginkgo
thats.. not how things work π
to not get hit you dont only need to dodge
you need to kill fast
gusty slate
Not necessarily, but it is more effective that way yeah
balmy ginkgo
either way does anyone know give or take the number im after?
quaint hatch
Oh ok
Didn't know that
gusty slate
30% is achieve, but I feel like 20% is fine?
quaint hatch
Thanks for telling me
balmy ginkgo
20 floors? damn thats a lot
gusty slate
That's not good mathz
balmy ginkgo
yeah i know still quite a lategame item considering mistakes
gusty slate
Styx doesn't matter asmuch
quaint hatch
Was I ever good maths?
fathom tinsel
Butterfly is 2% per clear when ranked up
leaden patio
One message removed from a suspended account.
light burrow
Yo gameplay question I've never been confident enough to try, if you take off butterfly or plume do you keep the buffs or do you need to keep them on
leaden patio
One message removed from a suspended account.
fathom tinsel
You do not keep the buffs when you take them off
light burrow
alright cool my assumption was correct
quaint hatch
right, 20% isn't 20 floors...
@leaden patio pshh
Thought it was one
tepid plover
Was I ever good maths?
@quaint hatch I was told you were the best
quaint hatch
Wow people are cruel liars
gusty slate
See the grapevine I was consulting said the same
tepid plover
Unfortunately
gusty slate
Guess that's why we're all in the Underworld huh?
quaint hatch
My fault?
tepid plover
I mean, zags life was a lie all along
finite fossil
thx for link for game festival
it was nice ^.^ and i would probably miss it if i dont spot it up here
thanks once again ^
agile saddle
I feel like we should be able to reroll hammer upgrades if we have the mirror upgrade to reroll boons/wells
gusty slate
I think there was discussion on that it was deemed too good if we could do that
agile saddle
Some hammer upgrades are such straight trash
manic bobcat
The mirror is called Fated Persuasion, how do you persuade a hammer?
gusty slate
don't listen to 'em hammer, I know you're great
manic bobcat
Check mate atheist
quaint hatch
I mean you can talk to
gusty slate
Charon's Wells are... alive?
manic bobcat
but you can't reroll Bouldy boon either
gusty slate
But rerolling hammers broke the balance and spirit of roguelite I guess
manic bobcat
still check mate atheist π
gusty slate
As it would allow us to control too much
solemn frigate
You can't reroll bouldy because you should be happy with whatever he gives you
manic bobcat
if you can roll hammer, Snap Dash Nova would get 0% pick
quaint hatch
It still doesn't get picked
manic bobcat
true xD
agile saddle
What is you guys most hated enemy from sheer annoyance or run ruiner? Mine is every enemy in Styx and archer guys in Elysium
gusty slate
Asterius is my DD sink
quaint hatch
Shield guys
gusty slate
I had 3 miniboss butterfly in ||EM 4Hades|| fight. That was real fun I tell you
quaint hatch
The ball itself isn't that bad
The whole boss fight
vapid lance
Styx rooms where the antidote is hidden in a hard to see spot
dusk night
RNGesus is making me choose between a Chaos gate, Hammer Upgrade and a Trial of the Gods with Aphrodite and Ares, I am both blessed and cursed today π
pseudo onyx
Hmmm question. Does +Dash strike also include the special dash-strike w/ Malphon's gloves?
dusk night
and its only the 5th chamber for crying out loud
gusty slate
Ah so Artemis boon doesn't affect it I see
pseudo onyx
It didnt say attack, it said "dash strike"
quaint hatch
Set terms in this game
dusk night
i asked this the other day, but you can still get concentrated fire the gun hammer upgrade right?
but just not with ||lucifers gun||
quaint hatch
which is TWO things
@pseudo onyx you got me
pseudo onyx
I'm going to go on the assumption its the standard attack dash strike, but it would be kinda cool if it affected both the dash strikes of the gloves. I might be bothered to test it later lol
quaint hatch
I would assume the same
manic bobcat
Ah so Artemis boon doesn't affect it I see
@gusty slate it does
gusty slate
Oh
manic bobcat
Dash Upper absolutely gets buffed by Hunter Dash
quaint hatch
Thank you
pseudo onyx
My hero! Now that's going to make for a fun 4th aspect build
tho I imagine that static damage doesn't change but that's fine by me lol
manic bobcat
yeah, it's true. as unintuitive as that sounds.4th fists ||"doom"|| isn't affect though, afaik
normal dash upper damage is
pseudo onyx
Yeah that's fine but if I'm gonna be using it anyways, I might as well make it hurt while I do it
plucky rampart
what if 4th fists gives you... four fists
quaint hatch
Didn't @spring kraken actually get big damage on maim?
pseudo onyx
Well, would that be affected by +special...? Hmm
quaint hatch
I am not the resident maim expert
spring kraken
quaint hatch
Thanks m8
quaint hatch
Slap ME on everything
plucky rampart
my problem with fist is that it gets pounded by all kinds of heat.
manic bobcat
Some good boons are:
Divine Strike
Lightning Strike
Curse of Agony (ideally with Merciful End)
Frost Strike (ideally with Artic Blast)
quaint hatch
Demeter fist zeus attack and demeter or
artemis special, maybe kinetic launcher
plucky rampart
more enemy? bad for fist. more hp? bad for fist. armor? bad for fist
quaint hatch
You need to hold down attack and dash when attacking
Sacrifices I frames but skips the attack cooldown
limpid flare
Not sure if anyone is into vtubers here, but I just discovered that one of the hololive vtubers is going to be playing hades in about two hours https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZOAG6nyIQo&feature=youtu.be
quaint hatch
Gilgamesh Curse of Agony + Divine Flourish + Divine Dash, and get the Duo.
quaint hatch
But if you kill them faster you don't need I frames
Human substitute
Every weebs wet dream
No cap
limpid flare
If you've ever heard of Kizuna Ai, same idea. If you haven't, in brief, it's basically someone using a 3D avatar when streaming or creating content. The avatar moves according to how they move IRL
But you can be like, an anime girl or whatever
pseudo onyx
Great. More Hatsune Miku
quaint hatch
Who needs humans anyway
limpid flare
That's pretty close if you imagine someone actually BEING hatsune miku
quaint hatch
Cringe imo
plucky rampart
I have come to appreciate demeter like athena
Chill is pretty useful for melee weapons
tepid plover
I am not the resident maim expert
"Underworld shades will hate you after this simple trick"
pseudo onyx
#h1-high-heat-strategies message
@spring kraken when listing off things in a list, is the implication that it's that order of the slots?
brisk trail
so, do the ||resource director's badges|| not do anything besides just being there?
tepid plover
Yeah
spring kraken
in end of my message.
brisk trail
i see
pseudo onyx
The other ? I have, so new potential gods stop showing up after you fill all our slots or get to the last zone, right? Or is there always only a set of X number per run that is generated?
spring kraken
Start on athena attack.
pseudo onyx
kk
tepid plover
You can get more with keepsakes but normal maximum is 4
spring kraken
With High chance game offer you ares,artemis,aphro after you take atena attack.but it can be demeter or dio too.
pseudo onyx
Start on athena attack.
@spring kraken Start with? didn't your list start with aphro? Or is the intention to try and get a switch to occur?
spring kraken
DR core of build. And need start with Athena for this.and its must be attack for maximum uptime of DR duo.(Athena +artemis)
pseudo onyx
DR?
tepid plover
They show in the contractor after a while, dont know what the requirement is @scenic path
quaint hatch
Darkness
Lots of it
old palm
Is there anywhere I can post a photo of the game without it being #h1-victory-boasting
quaint hatch
Depends on the contents
tepid plover
What for exactly yeah
quaint hatch
Here should be fine
tepid plover
Here is fine, just use imgur
old palm
Will do
pseudo onyx
DR core of build. And need start with Athena for this.and its must be attack for maximum uptime of DR duo.(Athena +artemis)
@spring kraken
Sorry I am still learning abbreviations/short-hand, etc. DR as in Damage Reduction or is this something else?
scenic path
alright thanks
old palm
||I was gifted something by the great king himself, sadly I cannot claim it https://i.imgur.com/ottMfka.jpg|| I put spoliers on just in case as it's a boss area
quaint hatch
Umbrella ella ella
spring kraken
@spring kraken
Sorry I am still learning abbreviations/short-hand, etc. DR as in Damage Reduction or is this something else?
@pseudo onyx Duo boon calles Deadly Reversal.(artemis+athena)
lean void
Somethin funny that happened but I had a dream a bit ago about Zag trying to escape again but using a black van painted with flames all over but immediately crashing and having to get out and start over haha
Doesnβt know how to drive the dang thing
tepid plover
I wanna touch the boat
pseudo onyx
@pseudo onyx Duo boon calles Deadly Reversal.(artemis+athena)
@spring kraken
Ok, so in your original post you listed aphro, artemis, dio, athena, that's not the order of which god in which slot, it's just general info? lol Just trying to figure out said ability where because it's interesting. So attack athena, artemis has to be special, dash ... dio? Cast aphro? and call whatever?
spring kraken
tepid plover
I read that as miami damage ngl
robust sundial
what's miam ?
pseudo onyx
But he's so cute.
robust sundial
tiny vermin is best vermin 
pseudo onyx
In the monty python bunny sort of way
So It feels appropriate when I find him while using 4th aspect of sword lol
spring kraken
and if all good attack can be like this.Or be much better
||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/764819599711272960/766657584446439434/Claws4.gif|| and miam deal damage huge
zealous galleon
Somethin funny that happened but I had a dream a bit ago about Zag trying to escape again but using a black van painted with flames all over but immediately crashing and having to get out and start over haha
@lean void why can I perfectly imagine this van lmao
dusk night
https://imgur.com/a/cGA2ogB How does one make such a choice ?
robust sundial
hammer time, always
sweet heart
hammer means an extra place later on
pseudo onyx
https://imgur.com/a/cGA2ogB How does one make such a choice
@dusk night I usually go for Chaos because hammer tends to come around several times, but I'm also fishing for Chaos's stupid legendary boon while slowly upping my heat level so... lol
dusk night
ye thats what i went with in the end
pseudo onyx
hammer means an extra place later on
@sweet heart extra place?
dusk night
im just fishing in chaos in general haha still need two common fish there
sweet heart
like if u dont choose hammer then u will have to choose on in asphodel
which could of been a boon or something better instead
dusk night
anyone know what the update was just b4?
manic bobcat
im just fishing in chaos in general haha still need two common fish there
270 hours in, 1 Chaos fish
sweet heart
also hammers make or break bilds so
manic bobcat
the odds over overwhelming
sweet heart
lol
dusk night
twas small only 70mb
pseudo onyx
Well, I also often see a hammer in charon's shop too
sweet heart
208 hours, 166 fish not a single rare
pseudo onyx
270 hours in, 1 Chaos fish
@manic bobcat ooof. I had a steady stream of like, 3 of the legendary ones in a row, so now when i dont get one I feel bad lol
208 hours 166 fish not a single rare
@sweet heart are you getting perfect catches?
dusk night
600 hours only need to get 5 more fish to complete codex entries
pseudo onyx
Yuck. Time to equip that conch and hope pos gives you that boon lol
I am actually needing to catch the common chaos fish like 5 more times I've only gotten that one once
sweet heart
yes or no?
dusk night
||yes||
sweet heart
ok ok
dusk night
12 i think
sweet heart
they shoul dadd multiplayer
pseudo onyx
9
sweet heart
not multiplayer but like
maybe a leaderbored
of times
fastest times
stuff like that
quaint hatch
It's called speedrunning
manic bobcat
^
sweet heart
yes i k