Zeus has always been depicted as horrible
#h1-discussion
dreamy mauve
remote coral
@cyan aspen https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2236312424
pics for themes
fringe garnet
can you get both Dionysus/Zeus duo and Dionysus/Demeter duo at the same time?
carmine ravine
dio zeus is what again?
fringe garnet
festive fog does lightning damage
gusty slate
Yes you can have both
fringe garnet
demeter is festive fog does cold damage
carmine ravine
oh yes it can, i did that before
gusty slate
it's fun
fringe garnet
UGH SO COOL
i want it
i also want Artemis/Ares blades + Ares/Demeter blades + the Ares increased blade size/increase blade duration/increased blade damage boons
carmine ravine
get the combo withdem and zeus, and get zeu/dem duo, + double strike
fringe garnet
go all blades
get the combo withdem and zeus, and get zeu/dem duo, + double strike
@carmine ravine you said the same thing twice?
carmine ravine
then basically dio bomb is just a status fest
gusty slate
Double zeus/dem for ultra wins
carmine ravine
the combo i mean dio/zeus + dio/dem
fringe garnet
ahhh nice
cyan aspen
@remote coral ty
dreamy mauve
I am only on 60 ish runs. But is it weird I have mostly agreed with Hades
carmine ravine
thats the point
cyan aspen
are the additional ranks even possible without hacking?
dreamy mauve
Just checking I wasnt insane
remote coral
lol yeah just do it
cyan aspen
like the last few need like several hundred thousand
gusty slate
agreed with Hades?
carmine ravine
not rly, the total is 300k darkness @cyan aspen
remote coral
lmao that would be a doozy
carmine ravine
u still need 25k darkness to buy a theme just saying
flat vapor
technically it's all possible since broker exists 😛
pseudo onyx
are there any interesting actions with the holy aura of the 4th aspect and boons? The area is huge, but does it hit in that entire area?
cyan aspen
which theme is the one for 25k darkness?
carmine ravine
nope, u need a hammer that increase ur special dmg area for that @pseudo onyx
stable meadow
I want Thanatoast
flat vapor
are there any interesting actions with the holy aura of the 4th aspect and boons? The area is huge, but does it hit in that entire area?
the special itself is the same, it just also spawns the aura
stable meadow
Than wearing bread oitifit = Thanatoast
remote coral
make it happen
fringe garnet
dont forget the aura doesnt give you 40% DR, nor does it just slow enemies, it also slows projectiles
aura is very good
carmine ravine
zag skins when, i want him to wear royal clothes
pseudo onyx
the special itself is the same, it just also spawns the aura
@flat vapor Thanks, then its unique hammer ability seems.... not great
flat vapor
also disables floor traps, including lava
fringe garnet
^^^
flat vapor
oh, greater consecration is amazing, wdym
fringe garnet
Greater Consecration is VERY GOOD i take it all the time
you are underestimating The Aura
flat vapor
damage resistance and slow in a large area? yes please
remote coral
same, aura is 2stronk
pseudo onyx
I keep forgetting it has damage reduction
carmine ravine
dont forget the aura doesnt give you 40% DR, nor does it just slow enemies, it also slows projectiles
@fringe garnet it does slows enemies move speed, but not atk speed
pseudo onyx
herp derp
fringe garnet
it might be that you need to up your SFX sound because maybe you are missing the low gregorian chant it eminates
remote coral
yeah that's pretty crucial lol
pseudo onyx
oh jeebus that's a big area
carmine ravine
theres a hamer that makes the aura bigger yes
fringe garnet
Eurydice: "If you find happiness out there hon, don't look back."
@Supergiant: Nice.
pseudo onyx
OK thanks on protip for the trap disable that's a great effect. Does it make lava safe to walk on? lol
fringe garnet
it does
pseudo onyx
Well then look at my new favorite sword aspect
carmine ravine
why would u need to walk on lava in the first place
gusty slate
Because the lava is hot
pseudo onyx
witches that are in an annoying corner blasting me
carmine ravine
use deflect with ur arthur atk
gusty slate
Walking on lava is what I do every run though, what's wrong with that 
brisk trail
I have done 37 escape attempts still no Thanatos 
fringe garnet
it also turns off floor traps. turns off Green Pots that may explode
pseudo onyx
OOH green pots. Good to know ty
remote coral
I believe they upped the spawn chance of Thanatos in the recent patch
fringe garnet
I have done 37 escape attempts still no Thanatos
@brisk trail patch out TODAY increases the rate of thanatos discovery. youll find him
pseudo onyx
Ok yes bigger concecration I now see all the wonderous defensive benefits I'm sold lol
brisk trail
@brisk trail patch out TODAY increases the rate of thanatos discovery. youll find him
@fringe garnet it’s not out for Switch yet
Hopefully tomorrow
carmine ravine
green pots, more like pots of greed bcoz i used hermes legend boon
gusty slate
Drew Exodia
shut geyser
Hades mod when that lets me play as Than 
carmine ravine
he dont even have a moveset
prisma dagger
Than is bae
brisk trail
No Hypnos is bae
prisma dagger
Artemis is bae lol
gusty slate
That's a simulation, gotta strategically move souls around
fringe garnet
artemis best girl
brisk trail
Athena is bae
gusty slate
Not my kinda game
carmine ravine
yes, i simp for srtemis
prisma dagger
Athena is a good one
gusty slate
brisk trail
Not sure why but I find Athena’s dark skin tone really attractive
carmine ravine
i bet u like dio too
gusty slate
Dio a cool guy
brisk trail
Dio is cool
gusty slate
Really like how upbeat and chill he is
brisk trail
Dio is my favorite of the gods
carmine ravine
50% of ||the feast|| is about dio
brisk trail
Plus he calls you Zag
late siren
wait are you guys serious about the thanatos increased discovery patch? i've done about 45 runs and still haven't met him
carmine ravine
hermes call u coz
shut geyser
it used to be Artemis for but the numbers on Aphrodite... the % just puts the other gods to shame
brisk trail
Hermes talks so fast
prisma dagger
He pops up more yes
brisk trail
Like within 3 seconds he’s done
carmine ravine
aphrodite onlyfans
brisk trail
Aphrodite is the most basic of all the goddesses
carmine ravine
bouldy got best dialogues
shut geyser
yes yes i mean her boons
late siren
ok i just checked, i've done 44 runs in total and thanatos was not in any of them😔
shut geyser
the attack bonus % is the best
brisk trail
People who choose Aphrodite over the other goddesses got no taste
gusty slate
shut geyser
not talking about graphic design or character or VO. just the boons upfront
gusty slate
I'd pick Aphro over Dem in this story
brisk trail
I don’t mean for boons lol
carmine ravine
People who choose Aphrodite over the other goddesses got no taste
@brisk trail u know that zag literally have a poster of aphrodite on his room wall right
prisma dagger
Chaos is just the best let's all accept that lol
brisk trail
But nonetheless
grand summit
Aphro fist attack + colossus knuckle = free wins
late siren
does aphrodite have a call? not sure i've come across one yet
shut geyser
her call is great
carmine ravine
chaos a relatable old man pranking hades with his functionless keepsake
late siren
i'm gonna look up gamplay of it
prisma dagger
Chaos screwed me over so I am terrified to make deals now
brisk trail
I don’t even think Chaos has a gender or can even procreate with another living creature
prisma dagger
Don't think it has a gender, no
carmine ravine
chaos is the origin
gusty slate
I believe we refer to Chaos as they?
prisma dagger
I would say yes, refer to Chaos as they
brisk trail
Chaos is literally a blob of horror in simplistic terms
carmine ravine
gaea dlc but now we fight spartans and kratos if sony allows it
fringe garnet
yes, deposed in the GoW universe by Kratos
quiet gull
Anyone else get a second, 10.5MB patch on hades just now?
gusty slate
Ye
prisma dagger
Yep
short gate
Chaos still do be rocking that look like a queen tho
quiet gull
Guessing just a small hotfix then
short gate
Beautiful babe
gusty slate
Most likely
carmine ravine
does chaos even have legs
short gate
Maybe
short gate
The PS4 one is my fave
sharp fossil
finally reads the patch notes omg mouse lock was fixed
brisk trail
A gaming series about Kratos defeating every god in every form of mythology.
sharp fossil
this is the best day of my life
brisk trail
Kratos is broken.
gleaming sparrow
The ps4 one was incredible. Like uh, I wasn't ready for it to actually be good
brisk trail
Like realistically Kratos would’ve lost.
short gate
Kratos is a lot more mature now
fringe garnet
kratos is rage in a video game form
gusty slate
Isn't that Doomguy
prisma dagger
The Stranger is rage in video game form lol
fringe garnet
Kratos feels MUCH angrier to me than domoguy
Like realistically Kratos would’ve lost.
@brisk trail if you play on the hardest difficulty mode for each game you essentially have to play perfectly to get through any particular section.
prisma dagger
True
fringe garnet
Kratos is angrier than Wolverine
gleaming sparrow
Like they made the thread "GOW 1-3 is in the past and he's ashamed of it" and it lands.
carmine ravine
kratos is literally too angry to die
fringe garnet
GoW 1-3 spoilers ||he dies IN EVERY SINGLE GAME and each game fights his way out of Hades lol||
gleaming sparrow
Also has plentiful "BOY" lines
narrow hemlock
carmine ravine
i mean kratos moveset is perfect for a dlc boss
fringe garnet
did the new patch make EM Theseus/Atreius harder?
narrow hemlock
im assuming whatever this patch is is some fairly important fix to have gone out so quickly
pseudo onyx
Does bad news work for casts that DONT lodge inside the monster? So like, Dio's special?
carmine ravine
em elysium is harder? i still kill them easy with hazard bomb tho
sharp fossil
im assuming whatever this patch is is some fairly important fix to have gone out so quickly
@tatzel.#1484 yes: mouse lock
fringe garnet
i have just struggled with them noticeably more today than in any past attempt
sharp fossil
pretty sure bad news works for non lodging casts
pseudo onyx
k that's great then
short gate
If you beat Kratos you could get the Blades of Chaos 
carmine ravine
bad news is great if ur casts is non lodging
gleaming sparrow
I hate the idea of exclusive weapons and bosses
fringe garnet
the arty/zeus duo
gusty slate
Bad news needs stygian soul, no?
carmine ravine
not rly, i get it sometimes, and i dont use stygian souls for a long time, or am i wrong
pseudo onyx
bad news does say that's required yea
carmine ravine
huh probably got it when hunting for prophecies
pseudo onyx
Im putzing around with Cold Embrace and Bad News and stuff. Getting the last duo and legendaries I havent used and it's sort of a fun combo
shrewd scroll
ok so heat goes up to 54 am I right?
tribal glade
i think i heard someone say it can go up to 63
gusty slate
Probably need to add the hellmode unique pact too
shrewd scroll
word I don't really mess with youtube or streamers, any idea what the highest heat legit clear has been published? I just beat nine (with my fastest yet, 17min almost exactly, flex) and I feel like I can prob get up to twenty or maybe even thirty
also do people use god mode?
gusty slate
Yeah
tribal glade
i think for high heat runs people are not using godmode
gusty slate
Oh for high heat runs? no sorry thought that was in general
tribal glade
godmode is more for those who want to clear the story without too many brick wall situations based on skill/experience
flat vapor
god mode is used all the time
shrewd scroll
I havent turned it on yet, don't expect to have to use it before exhausting the story
rich grotto
i'm only getting into like 5-6 heat runs having just got the game recently, but i haven't seen any penalty for god mode
tribal glade
i do love that godmode exists - my only complaint is that you cant "lock" the %
flat vapor
there are many people who want an easier experience
sharp fossil
Highest heat clear in 1.0 is 51 by Healian, i’m pretty sure
flat vapor
whether for story, accessibility, or just because
sharp fossil
there were several higher than that in EA tho
tribal glade
yeah im super happy that godmode exists
shrewd scroll
oh no I'm all for godmode if you want to use it, I just don't feel the crunch yet and I think I'll be able to unlock most stuff before I need it. maybe not all the titan blood I need
carmine ravine
i mean even with god mode, high heat cant be beaten easily either
tribal glade
if the % was "lockable" then i'd probably use it myself for some certain things
shrewd scroll
where does it max out?
carmine ravine
80%
shrewd scroll
hm
carmine ravine
2% per death
shrewd scroll
after you turn it on or total including before?
sharp fossil
how reasonable do ya’ll reckon 63 would be with 80% dr
narrow hemlock
oh yeah i was gonna say even with godmode ticked on, doing high heat is still hard lol i dont know why people call it "easy mode" when it just makes your survivability a lil better
gusty slate
The timer will getcha
narrow hemlock
more than anything its just a way to lower the difficulty just a smidge
sharp fossil
playing easy mode is perfectly fine tho
narrow hemlock
its really not
tribal glade
taking 80% less damage is a pretty good buffer
shrewd scroll
yeah with more enemies and enemies w more hp that timer starts to get real
narrow hemlock
nothing about the game changes other than you can take more hits.
tribal glade
yeah that timer ><
carmine ravine
i prefer to define easy mode as stuff like game journalist diffivulty
tribal glade
turn everything on except the timer lol
sharp fossil
being able to take more hits makes the game easier
narrow hemlock
not inherently, no
sharp fossil
ok what
shrewd scroll
hmm deus ex:revision normal mode is definately "tourists only"
tribal glade
it does if you're using guan yu 😉
narrow hemlock
you and i have different definitions of what easier means
tribal glade
so it would seem
sharp fossil
fair enough
shrewd scroll
speaking of guan yu is there a goddam weapon upgrade that makes the the spinning spear charge or travel faster? I just can't find a way to use it right
sharp fossil
ok, better phrased; 80% dr makes winning easier
it does not make damage avoidance easier, ofc
tribal glade
yes - hammer upgrades @shrewd scroll
shrewd scroll
awesome
narrow hemlock
i can compromise to that 
shrewd scroll
I'll give it another shot
tribal glade
super necessary for when im playing with it - but others recommend just building around the special and uh... just dont get hit?
sharp fossil
either way it’s a good feature
shrewd scroll
esp since I was psyched they gave a shoutout to the patron saint of crime in east asia
gusty slate
Just gotta do what you can with GY
shrewd scroll
don't get hit is always my fav advice
tribal glade
i dont think im committed enough to learning guan yu to get good enough to ever not call it hard mode tbh
shrewd scroll
I feel that way about laser gun
gusty slate
My playstyle is like the anti-thesis for GY lol
tribal glade
@shrewd scroll the rail?
sharp fossil
... face tanking?
gusty slate
I like facetank
sharp fossil
big same
tribal glade
i feel like the rail is easy mode, lol
shrewd scroll
yeah aspect of lucifer
tribal glade
oh ok
shrewd scroll
just cant get the hang of it
gusty slate
Aspect of super soaker
tribal glade
i havent tried that aspect yet (i dont think)
sharp fossil
and about as effective at killing things as super soaker, sadly
shrewd scroll
the movement feels wierd... maybe with +dashes from hermes
gusty slate
What, I kill things fine
shrewd scroll
I've been doing a bunch of runs with zag aspect with fists and the hermes trinket... just max your dodge and go berzerk
carmine ravine
ill take eris rather than lucifer any day
shrewd scroll
eris is what the speedrunners use?
tribal glade
hermes trinket and fists is fun - just did that one last night 🙂
shrewd scroll
esp if you can snag the hermes boon for dodge... got my total up to over seventy a few runs ago
flat vapor
i find rail4 to be clunky and very much outclassed by eris
carmine ravine
yes hermes keepsake is cool
gusty slate
I actually rarely use eris lol
sharp fossil
eris is what the speedrunners use?
@shrewd scroll eris is what heat pushers use
well, not only what they use
but it’s pretty big rn
carmine ravine
eris + hazard bomb, ez 1.5k bombs
gusty slate
I'm content with my 19/20 heat runs lul
shrewd scroll
hm watch my language? are their rules I should know?
flat vapor
look at that leaderboard diversity
sharp fossil
i mean, i’d believe it
shrewd scroll
8min with the bow is pretty badass
carmine ravine
dont frickin curse @shrewd scroll
sharp fossil
idk much about speedrunning lol
shrewd scroll
wellllllll frick me!
gusty slate
I'm too bad to speedrun
carmine ravine
u do a speedy run
sharp fossil
same tbh
pseudo onyx
ok wow. the aphro+demeter duo vs thesus is just silly fun if you can get a few casts going behind him, it just melts him as he stares at you aiming
shrewd scroll
speedrun is relative. I almost cracked seventeen mins just now it felt great
gusty slate
I'm content with just enjoying what I can do 
shrewd scroll
hmm aphro demeter cast where it tracks better and does more dmg right?
sharp fossil
that’s arty/demeter
pseudo onyx
yeah, I did that and lengthy casting
gusty slate
Aphro dem is where her casts attack you
pseudo onyx
erm, not tracks better, tracks you*
carmine ravine
which is kinda bad imo
shrewd scroll
yeah I tried it and it was kindof hit or miss
pseudo onyx
It's fun, not great, not terrible, but not as bad as I thought it was going ot be lol
gusty slate
It's amusing
shrewd scroll
smoked the f'in hydra though
pseudo onyx
Oh yeah, made hydra supes easy
carmine ravine
when u dashing 45 times per minute theres no point anymore
pseudo onyx
and anyone with a shield
shrewd scroll
fair
supple haven
That duo did not work well for me against the final boss
carmine ravine
if i want t smoke hydra i can just use dio bombs
carmine ravine
poseidon/dem duo is fun tho
sharp fossil
which does the same kinda thing but better
that’s a poseidon cast build tho
i mean, crystal beam builds, to be clear
supple haven
The fast tracking duo for dem cast is fun and easy
sharp fossil
blizzard shot has pos cast as a base
shrewd scroll
oh f yeah I started trying out ares cast recently and it's f'ing gangster
carmine ravine
yea but combne it with arty/poseidon duo, each cast unleash 2 slowly moving cast that deal rapid dmg
tulip ocean
actually feel like I'm burning out on Hades
shrewd scroll
hm whats the pos/dem duo?
pseudo onyx
i actually dont really like ares cast even though I know it's objectively really good lol
carmine ravine
cast pierces foes and inflicts chil in big area along the way
shrewd scroll
mmmmmmm
sharp fossil
it’s objectively really good with hunting blades
without hunting blades, it’s trash imo
tribal glade
thats ok - as long as you've enjoyed the experience @tulip ocean - dont have to play forever
gusty slate
Eh even with hunting blades idk why but I don't really like using Ares cast
shrewd scroll
what's the way to go w zeus cast? I just can't like it
tulip ocean
I've gotten to ||Heat 12 with bow, heat 3-4 with others||. I still have story stuff to do
sharp fossil
it isn’t crazy, even with the duo, without a bit of stacking, to be fair
gusty slate
I use Zeus cast to apply Jolted
carmine ravine
use it with arty/poseidon deuo that makes it double, 200-500 dmg per point blank cast @sharp fossil
sharp fossil
bladed shot?
tribal glade
i mean, realistically you've finished the game @tulip ocean - everything else now is just extra lore
shrewd scroll
yeah jolted is more powerful than I thought
sharp fossil
oh yeah blizzard shot (i think it’s called blizzard shot?) is great ofc
even better with mirage shot
shrewd scroll
ok so......... I can't figure out the f'in shield. What's the most basic advice you got?
tribal glade
hold attack = be invincible
shrewd scroll
I'm still at heat1, heat5+ at everything else
ok so it's really just too boring for me
that makes sense
tribal glade
you can build around the special depending on your shield of choice
gusty slate
Different aspects can help with the playstyle
tulip ocean
yeah, shield is all about guarding basically
carmine ravine
just use chaos sheild and get crazy with the special
shrewd scroll
well what the f do you do with it say during the "witches" in asphodel?
or other high projectile fights
tribal glade
hold attack = be invincible @shrewd scroll i already told you lol
sharp fossil
yeah which shield are you using?
shrewd scroll
sure but it doesn't protect from all angles
tulip ocean
yeah, you can charge into enemies and the whole charge i think you stay invincible
shrewd scroll
oh
tulip ocean
so just guard and charge them, turn and repeat
shrewd scroll
well I guess I didn't realize that
tribal glade
yeah the guard->charge, repeat is best imo
carmine ravine
u camp in a corner, and throw shields @shrewd scroll
tulip ocean
I feel like you do stay invincible for the whole charge, been a while
shrewd scroll
I guess I just gotta prioritize athena with it maybe
tulip ocean
athena is always good to have 1 of at least
tribal glade
athena dash also helps a bit there 🙂
shrewd scroll
yeah that's what I was thinking
tribal glade
or athena anything, really
carmine ravine
athena dash helps with most of the game, even using hazard bomb on eris
tribal glade
athena, godess of "i hate you, you stupid witches"
tribal glade
shes 2nd in line behind Meg for getting that award 😉
trail copper
how do i do spoiler tags? I can seem to find the post
shrewd scroll
totally fair doesn't meg also do dusa?
carmine ravine
fun fact: eurydice voice actor does not sing the songs
tribal glade
use || on both sides of the text (double lines on start and end)
so like || spoiler text here | |
carmine ravine
||like this||
tribal glade
but take out the space on the end set 😉
trail copper
ok thanks
tribal glade
not sure @shrewd scroll
shrewd scroll
hmmm are there songs I unlock at base that aren't in the rest of the game?
tribal glade
oh thats interesting @carmine ravine
slender skiff
||Hades is Zagreus' father.||
shrewd scroll
true
huh aphrodite and dusa are the same voice interestingly
and the zag guy also does skelly ha!
also zeus and chaos same, wacky
prob has a record number of fully voiced lines in a game anywhere near this indie
tribal glade
its a staggering amount of voice lines
shrewd scroll
like, the amount of TEXT in disco elysium, but voiced
trail copper
anyone know yet how to complete ||the Queen's plan|| prophecy i assume i have to ||give a few nectar to each god||
pseudo onyx
and the zag guy also does skelly ha!
@shrewd scroll the zag guy is darren korb and he also wrote the music in this and the other supergiant games lol
shrewd scroll
oh damn! I bought the bastion soundtrack back in the day! what a freak!
hmm does this mf have a wikipedia page yet?
snap he does
but it def needs some uhh light editing
@trail copper I don't see one with that name?
trail copper
I think its new with the more recent patch last i checked its not on the wiki yet
nocturne drum
Does anybody else think Orpheus’ speaking voice is odd, considering how his voice while singing sounds much different?
sharp fossil
i mean, that’s just kinda how singing works
most people have a different voice they use when singing
flat vapor
in this case it's literally two different voices
gusty slate
Oh is it not actually 2 different VAs?
flat vapor
darren korb does the singing
nocturne drum
Not really. While singing voices certainly sound different from speaking voices, they don’t usually sound nearly as different as Orpheus’. His speaking voice literally sounds like a girl, while the singing voice is much more of a man’s singing.
brisk trail
It is two actors.
sharp fossil
i mean, it may well be two actors, but my point stands lol
brisk trail
Michael Aishlie (could be butchering the spelling) for Orpheus' speaking voice and Darren for sung vocals.
sharp fossil
didn’t bother me really
flat vapor
michael aishie does the speaking
nocturne drum
It doesn’t “bother” me, so much as I found it odd.
Singing voice has a much more baritone timber to it, while speaking lacks it.
flat vapor
i mean, his speaking voice is high pitched and he sings entirely in high pitched falsetto
brisk trail
That being said, yes, sometimes people sound different when they sing.
indigo nest
pallid thicket
does anybody know why I'm having to download patches every couple of days?
brisk trail
Post-launch support.
pallid thicket
are there patch notes somewhere?
gusty slate
There's some in #hades-patch-notes , but some smaller ones don't get written until later
As I think there was an immediate patch right after the patchnotes
pallid thicket
kind of strange there aren't notes when the patch ships
brisk trail
In the game client?
pallid thicket
anywhere
brisk trail
pallid thicket
please read the conversation
brisk trail
Minute fixes don't warrant another post.
gusty slate
but really small patches SGG might not think it's worth their time to write immediately
Unless it's like gamebreaking
pallid thicket
I guess I'm the only one who likes to know what changes are being made to the game/files
sharp fossil
damn he can compose AND sing
@indigo nest he also plays like 90% of the instruments for the soundtrack
man is a wizard
shrewd scroll
as long as I get the full notes eventually (week or two) I never sweat it. Urtuk was posting detailed lists of sometimes minute fixes regularly for a while and it was kinda exhausting, they figured it out. Streets of rogue was great in the way the formatted it, dungeon crawl stone soup stands out also. Give me the big changes upfront and if I want I'll scroll through the big list, esp if it's categorized and s like that
flat vapor
darren also voices zagreus
so yeah, he's pretty good
pretty sure he's also the sound director?
shrewd scroll
work from home during covid? make your own hours?
do what you love? (as long as it's a decent show)
f, just make a show abt the gd game. six or twelve episodes. people would eat it up. he pets the dog!
modern coral
that would be cool, but I think they've already told the story they wanted to tell in the medium that works best for it
shrewd scroll
I smoked my speed record
static wadi
or i just unlucky?
shrewd scroll
felt great but then I realize people doing it under 8 mins
static wadi
wow so they add more arrows for Chiron but reduced damage?
now dio build with it doesnt required relentless volley
remote forge
Hades is all about that A E S T H E T I C
He has Q U E S T I O N S
And so F O R T H
static wadi
add more Chiron voice lines.... I still do not understand is it a joke or not
remote forge
By the way, who is the narrator voice?
modern coral
pretty sure its the same as Hades
static wadi
@remote forge u mean irl?
modern coral
oh yeah its hades
modern coral
that's why he's always slightly condescending
modern coral
wait, are you talking about the voice that talks when you "inspect" those glowing dots across the game?
static wadi
yup
remote forge
Yes, the narrator
modern coral
yeah, that's hades
remote forge
No it's definitely not hades lol
static wadi
it's not him
modern coral
sometimes he says stuff and Zag says stuff like "shut up dad"
remote forge
No he says "shut up old man"
And the narrator tells him things Hades is hiding from him, narrates while he's trying to sneak around Hades, etc
They don't even sound that alike
static wadi
@remote forge actually they share voice actor
static wadi
but they does not sounds similar yes
ivory cape
They sound completely different
static wadi
Hades is more loud
remote forge
And he sounds like he's had 1000 years more brandy and cigars
modern coral
Hades has some more reverb and some other effects, other than that they're very similar
remote forge
Ehhh not really
static wadi
and narrator is more whispering
ivory cape
Literally aren't
That's like
Comparing darth vader without the raspy stuff to Stephen fry
remote forge
thorny cairn
Can I ask a question here about numbers?
static wadi
@thorny cairn my is 31
thorny cairn
Aren’t Artemis’s attack and special boons really bad compared to almost others?
thorny cairn
Basically increasing damage by much less than almost all the others for all weapons as far as I can see
static wadi
that's the point
thorny cairn
Even including crits
static wadi
that's why i prefer Aphro
thorny cairn
Like Athena or aphro both increase by way more per attack plus they have huge benefits
Zeus is obviously way better for fists or gun
But art still kinda crap
So is her call, compared to any of the other damaging ones
static wadi
@thorny cairn Aphro has best scales. Athena and ||Demeter|| share 2nd and 3rd
thorny cairn
But maybe I’m missing something
static wadi
Pos is after them
gusty slate
Isn't crit like 200% damage?
static wadi
and Artemis is last
thorny cairn
Do you have a list?
static wadi
Dio Ares And Zeus has no scales
smoky epoch
hey guys, how do I unlock the Codex Index?
thorny cairn
Poke, yeah but only 15 percent or so and increasing damage by 20ish?
smoky epoch
I don't see it in work orders 😦
static wadi
@smoky epoch did u upgrade table?
thorny cairn
You will pip, keep playing and talking to Achilles
static wadi
also it need time
smoky epoch
90 runs ish still need time?
static wadi
@thorny cairn i had convo with Achiles much much much later i bougght it
@smoky epoch wow
table upgraded?
smoky epoch
yep
static wadi
well
static wadi
lol u have it?
smoky epoch
have to go to the god, then press B
remote forge
Hard mode: beat Styx
smoky epoch
pffffft
static wadi
ahahahah
remote forge
Easy mode: sell duos and then buy diamond/blood and suicide
opaque nexus
Vorime just beat the game in less than 7 minutes
static wadi
@remote forge better buy it and go slap redacted too for blood
gusty slate
That is the way, galaxy brain plays
opaque nexus
Not even in 6:5x
opaque nexus
But in 6:45
thorny cairn
Wow jeez
smoky epoch
@static wadi I always thought it has its own page in the codex, User Experience fail right there
static wadi
@remote forge it's more polite to let him enter the House first
opaque nexus
I swear he has like a 5 minute time and he’s just saving them
remote forge
TFW when you're at 149 gold and enter a shop room anyways hoping to find a vase
smoky epoch
XD
gusty slate
I do that by accident sometimes
remote forge
Does anyone else always break the base of the zone 2 shop?
Hoping, praying they're money
But they never are
static wadi
there was another bug
in asphodel some colums use to give gold
if u destroy them while in combat
dusk mantle
Trial of gods made harder in elysium. Rip :(
dreamy mauve
That's the game
static wadi
@dreamy mauve ?
dreamy mauve
What?
Any way. Would like to see harder variants of Furies and maybe Achilles in Elysium
remote forge
Question:
Why does this server not have an emoji of Theseus **** eating grin?
It's arguably prime emoji material
balmy radish
Does anyone know when the switch is getting the new updates that just released on PC?
dreamy mauve
Em?
static wadi
@dreamy mauve ||Extreme Measuers||
dreamy mauve
Pact?
static wadi
y
chilly monolith
When you turn on heat, do you lose the benefits of mirror?
dreamy mauve
Y
static wadi
@chilly monolith ||there is point in pact for that||
crisp zodiac
Holy rabies. I just tore down the Elysium champs in about a minute.
dusk mantle
I wonder when they will nerf eris rail.
Gotta get some runs in before they do at higher heat xD
crisp zodiac
@static wadi He'd use the full phrase if not for the censorship bot.
mortal isle
Question. On the switch version, how do you pull up the aspects menu? Or does it need to be unlocked first
static wadi
@mortal isle did u unlock all weapon?
mortal isle
Yea
static wadi
@mortal isle made 1 run?
static wadi
u finished with a rail?
mortal isle
Gotcha
static wadi
u need to use weapon u want and weapon u like
mortal isle
Gotcha
static wadi
aspects avaliable after u make 1 run after unlocking all weapons
Anyone used Last Keepsake in Trials? is there any lines?
vapid narwhal
so if I'm reading this correct the base form of the bow is nerfed this patch...?
grave sphinx
I believe so
spiral cargo
so i cleared bow heat 8 and started to do the lower heats that i skipped for bow, but when i went back to heat 8, it's giving me the rewarsd again
is that intended
static wadi
@vapid narwhal well more arrows vs less damage
static wadi
@vapid narwhal oh yes
well u dont rely much on special with Zag or Hera
so it's nerf yes but not so horrible
static wadi
@vapid narwhal i guess it's a reason
why it was nerfed
Wait
where is Asterius's tail?????????????????
Petition for adding tail for miontaur!
static wadi
@spare ridge only in EM version lol
and i'm not sure is it a tail or some hook from his back
spare ridge
well
dusk mantle
@spiral cargo that should not be happening i think
fallow fossil
Hi guys I am new on Discord and this is rthe first server I joined (outside my friends'), just wanted to say hi!
I really love this game, so I'm just reading at other people's strategies as well.
static wadi
sup man
fallow fossil
sup!
static wadi
just remember no spoilers
fallow fossil
No worries, 🙂
carmine ravine
no rus-
static wadi
????
fallow fossil
What's rus
Yeah my roommates watch me play this in the living room; probably one of my favorite rougelikes haha
Is there a difference playing on PC vs Switch? I have switch, and I think it has some sort of auto-aim
static wadi
well i dont have it so cant say
carmine ravine
switch is getting scalped anyways so relatable
dry mauve
high island
Only difference is that the Switch version gets patches a little bit later.
static wadi
anyone have some wierd troubles with autoaim?
static wadi
@south shoal f10 ingame
south shoal
ah, thanks
static wadi
#h1-tech-support for switch iirc
so when i charge attack and point it in enemy
in a moment when i release button my aim suddenly skew a bit
south shoal
What's that boon called?
Where the cast gets backstab bonuses?
I need it for that bug report
spare ridge
can’t recall
south shoal
Oh, didn't know that was a thing
Yeah, usually I'd look it up myself, but my browsers running slow :(
Think its finally working tho
static wadi
@south shoal it's aphro athena duo
static wadi
Parting Shot
south shoal
thank ya ^^
south shoal
The one where ||You die and Zagreus does the peace sign as he goes into the blood?||
static wadi
@south shoal yes
south shoal
Yeah, that one got me right at the end of my last run
slender skiff
I got a second patch like an hour after the patch that dropped today.
Probably an emergency patch to fix the sudden downgrading of enemy models/textures.
carmine ravine
i rly thought the sign was a T2 reference
slender skiff
I learned something interesting from that bug: Lernie's neck is a background object, not an enemy.
The head got downgraded, but the neck didn't.
mossy grove
yeah I noticed that some of the models look a little weird
carmine ravine
best ending https://imgur.com/a/N9wrIQU
static wadi
omg wasted too much diamonds for song
merry talon
so what's the idea behind the bow special changes? any ideas?
dusk mantle
songs costing diamond is just way too much
merry talon
I'm almost done with all the songs 😄
static wadi
@merry talon i think abuse shotguning too much with it
merry talon
ah makes sense
I thought it was gonna be a chiron bow nerf, until I saw they increased the arrow count to offset the change
static wadi
yup so it's kinda... ok
merry talon
ya I didn't really shotgun much with it anyways
static wadi
i mean i do not need now relentless voley for my fav Dio build
merry talon
dio builds are some of my favorite
static wadi
8 arrows is exactly what i want
static wadi
and duo
merry talon
of course
merry talon
hmm I don't see the point in that one
static wadi
more dmg is more dmg
static wadi
why not
merry talon
just any basic boon
static wadi
well u cant take ANY boon
merry talon
revenge counts for the requirement?
static wadi
u cant take Special cus it would be dio
merry talon
oh right
static wadi
u cant take Attack cus u want aphro
static wadi
so only choice is revenge
static wadi
i tried it with Chaos aspect
but made some fatal mistake wasting 7 rerols on 1 door
and result was god i dodnt want anyway
won but... dissapointed
merry talon
happens
static wadi
lol i just realised
brisk trail
It's always "sooooo close" with the 30% buff achievement.
velvet grove
I don't care who I need to talk to
But make these canon
Especially the last own
One
static wadi
Sis trinket has on of the greates scales
carmine ravine
kek that last one
raven meteor
Make the last one canon or riot
brisk trail
Still no Hades update for Switch
static wadi
i just realised hitting myself with rail for gaining more dmg sounds kinda stupid
brisk trail
hazard one?
raven meteor
Yeah
carmine ravine
i think the catching the rocket is a reference to the golden apple or sth
i mean u can still use hazard bomb safely with eris aspect if u got athena dash
static wadi
@carmine ravine u can use it even without
iframe works
and u get buff
but it's hard yes
carmine ravine
thats the whol point of the dash
static wadi
not always
Just realised some Secret aspect moves like sword and fists are similar to some enemies
sweet basin
Anyone know if there is unique dialogue for when you're using God Mode???
static wadi
didnt use it so cant tell
sweet basin
Same.
I just wanna hear the lines. Might make a throwaway file on my Switch to check
dreamy mauve
I wouldnt be surprised
jolly river
Weapon soiler
||I dont understand, I have sunk many points into multiple weapons but still no legendary aspects? Is there a process I need to do?||
static wadi
@jolly river pinnsed message in #h1-story-discussion for secret aspects
brisk trail
@jolly river yes, there's a list for it on pinned msg @ #h1-story-discussion
static wadi
there are all info u need
novel spindle
With sysiphus keepsake?
raven meteor
Gl
novel spindle
Good luck
static wadi
@jolly river so random Achiles dia awaits
unkempt sleet
RNG dialog be random
jolly river
I got all the ||aspects for gauntlets, spear, 1 for sword and 1 for shield||
that should be all I need to get the dia, but it isnt
tribal glade
just double check the requirements and ||wait for the dialogue to come up||
jolly river
kk
static wadi
hey i did it
crimson canopy
of course they released a new ||theme|| that requires ambrosia, right after I thought I finally didn't need anymore and turned it all into TB
static wadi
@crimson canopy
new death animation still makes me laugh
btw why there is no peace sign?
vapid narwhal
did they change the ||post credit run ending death animation? It was always "Is there no escape?" before now it's "taken by styx" again||
static wadi
@vapid narwhal yup now ||it's styx again and another animation||
vapid narwhal
good, it makes more sense this way
static wadi
btw boonless Eris sounds good too
crimson canopy
oh the new death animation is for clears specifically?
crimson canopy
What did you mean by "new death animation still makes me laugh" then?
crimson canopy
So the 'new death animation' that made you laugh happened after you cleared a run?
static wadi
brisk trail
tbh a physical copy of the game would be cool
shell ice
they're selling CDs and vinyls of the soundtrack if you want "something" physical with "game content" on it
ofc its not the same thing as a physical copy of the game
static wadi
and i want to be rich young and smart(
brisk trail
im pretty sure you cant become young
static wadi
@brisk trail i'm pretty sure i cant become any of that
tepid plover
Does anyone use the woodland theme?? I'm trying to find a pic in the victory channel but I can't find any with it 🤣🤣
static wadi
@brisk trail u mean music?
brisk trail
yeah
grave sphinx
Okay uh
Not gonna say much about it
But the second convo with ||persephone|| made me cry :(
static wadi
Final Expense payback mix i think https://youtu.be/3GRKJ87S5cI?t=7938 @brisk trail
brisk trail
thanks
static wadi
did anyone had situation when he tried to spawnkill splitter and it become hotwheel?
remote forge
Hades features English-language text and voiceover, and full text translations in the following languages: French, Italian, German, Spanish, Russian, Brazilian Portuguese, Korean, Polish, and Simplified Chinese.
From the FAQ.
No Greek?! Come on :p
Classical Greek patch when? (Or even Koine or Modern...)
merry talon
hmm, I thought I had just finished buying all the music, but now I see there's one missing track remaining in the music stand
but idk what it is or where to get it
static wadi
@merry talon mb with new patch?
they added some new stuff to contractor
kinda expensive stuff
merry talon
possibly, but it doesn't look that way, it's in between ||god of the dead|| and ||in the blood||
I'm getting close to buying everything from the contractor, not quite there yet
oops, I mean in between ||god of the dead|| and ||on the coast||
shell ice
Have you fought ||the final boss with EM4||?
merry talon
ohhh
static wadi
well mb some things avaliable later
merry talon
that's it
shell ice
it has a special theme
merry talon
thanks
static wadi
unseen ones?
static wadi
@merry talon jusr dont use range weapon for ||EM4||
merry talon
why not
static wadi
just dont)
static wadi
it's ok
merry talon
I'm not worried, this is low heat
static wadi
my 1st was with shield
merry talon
can't be that hard
peak cloak
the bow special nerf was pretty big
peak cloak
chiron doing 95-100 instead of 130
merry talon
bow/rail are prob my best weapons
merry talon
I thought chiron was changed to make it not a nerf?
static wadi
yup it was kinda reworked
peak cloak
the extra arrow does not make up for that unless it scales well
cause the damage was lowered quite a bit
static wadi
less damage per arrow more arrows
merry talon
definitely a late build nerf assuming you have the +4 arrows hammer
static wadi
@merry talon now i dont need it actually
native orbit
Just ran through the entire game with egg and got exactly one gate in the room before Em3
native orbit
I wanna see my friend 😦
merry talon
chiron +4 arrows is just too good to ever pass up
static wadi
i would prefer it increased chance of gate instead of losing hp
@merry talon i play dio with chiron mostly
grave sphinx
I think the most satisfying thing in this game is when you do 25% of a bosses health in like, 3 seconds with one move
merry talon
ya but the extra damage doesn't hurt
static wadi
so 8 arrows is exactly what i need
merry talon
better than the other options
static wadi
but rare
merry talon
ya
static wadi
damn no much luck with chaos again
fervent heart
Chion +4 is pretty much required if you haven't maxed it, it feels like
static wadi
@fervent heart +4 is good in any chiron situation
fervent heart
Yeah but if you've only got like 3 or 4 arrows it's like having maxed aspect for free
static wadi
@fervent heart more now if i understand
native orbit
aw, Chaos made it up to me by sticking a gate in the first chamber
static wadi
after rework
fervent heart
When was the rework?
native orbit
today.
fervent heart
Oh, nice
native orbit
Lower base damage on special, more arrows. Does about 30% less overall.
static wadi
11 hours actually
fervent heart
This is my first post-purchase patch
fervent heart
I feel accomplished for some reason
static wadi
is Zeus ok with chiron?
native orbit
Zues doesn't seem measurably better, since there's a cooldown on the lightning instances. It's not a bad pick overall though
static wadi
i tried pos chiron it was funny
fervent heart
Zeus just seems good overall on weapons that do fast damage
static wadi
esp in aspho i pushed enemy in magma instantly
fervent heart
attack speed chiron w. zeus and artemis could be fun
fervent heart
I wonder if we'll ever get more weapons.
Mostly wondering because I had a crackhead thought of dual sickles that turn into Kopesh with Aspect of Rameses or something.
fervent heart
F
native orbit
We did get some new stuff in the last patch, even if it was nowhere near as big as a new weapon
some themes, dialogue, a prophecy
static wadi
well i cant call it a something that changes
fervent heart
I'm guessing if new weapons/anything big drops it won't be for a while since 1.0 has only been out a few months but
A boy can dream
native orbit
I'm betting on a staff, if we get anything
static wadi
only question is if devs think the same
fervent heart
I mean tbf there are technically 28 weapons already if you count aspects as a weapon in of themselves
static wadi
i'm talking not only about weapon
but gods and other characters
mb not as boon
even not gameplay stuff
mb like Hermes - something unique
fervent heart
How many greek gods ARE there? Like, I can't imagine there are a lot more to add
native orbit
there are so many
fervent heart
As for something unique, throw Heracles in as a random encounter. If you beat him in a fight, unique boons, if he gets you to 10% hp you get nothing but a small health bar
fervent heart
True
pure cosmos
Does anyone know if chamber duration item are also affected by bosses chamber such as HydraLite Gold?
native orbit
It'll say "standard encounter" if it doesn't
static wadi
@pure cosmos yes it affect any room
pure cosmos
Thanks
static wadi
is it a bug when redacted 3 beam attack instantly turns 180 degrees to me?
peak cloak
no
native orbit
I, think it would be? It tracks perfectly until he actually starts firing but after that I don't think it should.
crimson canopy
huh really? I've never seen that attack turn quickly before (though granted 90% of the time I just hide so it doesn't need to turn)
vapid narwhal
it always will snap to you when it starts to fire
static wadi
i mean it already started
vapid narwhal
but after that the tracking should be normal
static wadi
i dashed behind him