h1-discussion

[novel wasp]

honestly i hate to stress this but duo isnt that hard to obtain if you play your cards right

[coral vigil]

I wish Stubborn roots worked through stubborn defiance

[novel wasp]

another reason why stubborn defiance sucks

[hardy escarp]

Anything that is rare is not a crutch imo

[granite wadi]

I wish it was flipped

Like it healed more then DD

[novel wasp]

@hardy escarp i get that duo like in tartarsauce

[granite wadi]

Or it was like, heals less each DD

[hardy escarp]

I've never even gotten stubborn roots so yeah it's probably not a crutch

[coral vigil]

I wanna see a run with God Mode Maxed with Hidden Sword for dmg reduction

[novel wasp]

just gotta do some d20 or d4 moment

[drowsy finch]

Hidden Sword seems like it'd be fun if you stacked damage resists.

[novel wasp]

you can get guaranteed duo in asphodel

provided if you do the keepsake switcheroo

and then use your fated dices right

[drowsy finch]

Just sit in your aura.

"Not getting outta this chair."

[novel wasp]

also heres a secret for you

connorman

to give you some knowledge about how god appear works

[coral vigil]

Whats the highest burst weapon in the game Hera?

[novel wasp]

aspect of truck

[coral vigil]

?

[drowsy finch]

Aspect of truck? Glad they're renaming the sword hidden.

[coral vigil]

I was like oh f*** for a second

[granite wadi]

Zagreus isekai mode

[drowsy finch]

the baby 30 damage 3rd hit

[white violet]

What's the best controller to play the game? I've been using a mouse and keyboard but I noticed that you can get much more precise movement with a joystick

[coral vigil]

I like the switch pro controller

[drowsy finch]

the legendary TRUCC strike

[granite wadi]

I've been playing Switch undocked so I can't comment

But I like the switch pro in most things

[white violet]

undocked doesn't seem bad either to be honest

I just have serious joycon drift

[granite wadi]

I just switched reload if you really like using it on the gun

[drowsy finch]

hopefully that class action goes somewhere

[white violet]

I think I'm gonna give it a try with the pro controller I have and see how it feels

[coral vigil]

Like its a joke joycons suck this much

[bright lance]

pro controller is good but sometimes I like the PS4 controller better because it's easier to press dash and special at the same time
the ps4 buttons are "thinner" (have less travel)

[granite wadi]

I can't believe they went ahead with switch lite but still didn't fix drift on those built in joycons

Even if you can send joycon related repairs in free it s u c k s.

[coral vigil]

the Xbox One Controller is super nice too

Its really a shame joycons are so bad

Hopefully the next model next year has updated joycons

[granite wadi]

The worst part is I can totally see that offering free repairs is probably somehow cheaper then just making better joycons

But like... Please just make better joycons

[drowsy finch]

I mean thats the point of the CA

[coral vigil]

IDC if I have to buy newer better joycons but cmon

I used to love playing Celeste before the drift

but now I cant play Hades with joycons because of it

[granite wadi]

Yeah

I'm happy mine are still hanging in there for hades

[coral vigil]

Hope they remain good

Also it'll be cool if there were Decals available for Hades on Switch

[random plover]

Is it just me or do other people also experience joystick drifting in this game

I've seen my favorite streamer play this game and it also drifted for him too, is this a common problem?

[shell ice]

it's a common problem with switch joycons

the deadzones can be modified in the settings though

(at least on PC)

so that might be able to help

[random plover]

I use a ps4 controller so

[brisk trail]

does Hades ever accept a claim from one of the shades if you stand there long enough?

[random plover]

Yes

[storm coyote]

Yeah

[brisk trail]

neat

[hardy escarp]

I've kind of gotten the impression that people in this discord do not like me

[white violet]

I’ve started using a switch pro controller with a GameCube controller layout and it feels okay so far.

[hardy escarp]

Am I wrong or no

[white violet]

I don’t even know who you are (insert gif here)

[hardy escarp]

oof

[random plover]

See if it tries drifting to the left

[sand flame]

Pro controller is amazing for this game imo. Felt much better than the PS4 that I was using

[novel wasp]

what is a pro controller

also @random plover

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331824691620741130/756736872801107999/unknown.png

why are you in my windshield

[wise sparrow]

a quick google search reveals that a pro controller is a switch controller

[novel wasp]

Oh right

the real switch controller

joycon is a pain

lmao

[stiff summit]

Anyone else think Guan Yu is the worst hidden aspect?

For medium to high heat at least

[carmine ravine]

the downsides yeah

[novel wasp]

GY can get to middle heat

but not high heat

also middle as in 10+

20 above is what i called high heat since i aint plan to play more than 25 lol

[cloud apex]

I can't find a worse hidden* one so yeh

[novel wasp]

achilles

[north pier]

Battle Rage from Ares is the most annoying thing. Like obviously this is not something you should ever take, but then it's alongside deal more damage after death defy and special inflicts doom, so it's like, all of these suck

[novel wasp]

special inflicts doom is good on bow special wtf

[woven kettle]

Hi guys quick question, how does the Aegis' aspect of chaos (extra shields after bull rush) and aspect of zeus (shield becomes blitz disc) stack? Shouldn't there be 3 shields when you throw after bull rush it or something? I can't seem to get them to work together.

[quaint hinge]

They don't stack.

[novel wasp]

they dont

lol

[quaint hinge]

You chose one aspect or another.

[novel wasp]

its each of their quirk

[woven kettle]

ohh

[cloud apex]

The aspects aren't a permanent upgrade in that term, they are variants to choose from

[novel wasp]

yeah

[brisk trail]

Think of them like different weapons altogether

[novel wasp]

if thats the case bow would have something too strong lol

[north pier]

Yeah but on spear it's like "Oh i heard you like standing still and never killing anything in a reasonable amount of time"

[novel wasp]

then you are using spear spin wrong

[woven kettle]

thanks for the guidance

[north pier]

spear spin isn't the special?

[quaint hinge]

That's fine! The game doesn't really explain it very clearly.

[north pier]

the throw that takes 4 seconds is

[novel wasp]

spear special is so good for comboing

also you are using it wrong

[quaint hinge]

But - when you switch aspects you should notice that the graphic as well as the way the weapon works changes considerably.

[novel wasp]

like some dash strikes and then a special if they are away

[north pier]

or get this, just never throw your spear and spam your attack for 8x the damage

just dash over you can dash across the map in the same amount of time it takes to throw the spear

[novel wasp]

spear does 50 and 100 going back and forth

[north pier]

i hate the spear throw

[novel wasp]

its considerable when spear attack is merely 15

unless you get flurry then yeah thats valid

or else learn to use the spear special

its not 4 seconds

if you can press q more than twice

ive literally havent heard people complain about spear special aside from you lol

spin maybe, but special. first time

just learn some more, you will get used to it

[north pier]

i mean it just feels less effective than just... walking around

[novel wasp]

again

throw and then retreive as soon as possible

[north pier]

yeah ofc

[novel wasp]

then continue your dash striking

[north pier]

yeah for sure

[novel wasp]

you get more damage than what you are already doing

also zag spear on level 5 helps you that effectively since it increases the speical speed

[north pier]

it just feels super clunky to constantly aim your spear, retrieve, then run around

idk

[novel wasp]

yeah how many hours are you in lol

thing is the special isnt the skill you are meant to spam with

since it has huge delay

[north pier]

i'm aware

[novel wasp]

you should integrate combos

again, use it effectively you could basically let it work with you

instead of you work with them

the attack too has delays (without the flurry), so use the delay to cast something else, thats the charm of spears

[north pier]

i'll try it

i've just gotten away with like 50% clear rate with the spear doing whatever

maybe i'm missing some big damage

[novel wasp]

yes you are

spear might be weak base damage but the combo is god damn fun

i wouldnt be fork main for this long

[north pier]

I just got dash strike hits 3 times and the chaos dash strike +63 so sounds like i'll be doing MY COMBO THIS RUN AYYYY

[novel wasp]

also you can dash while spinning, to make your spin range slightly bigger

[north pier]

yeah i think i probably just undervalued the special's damage

[novel wasp]

welcome to the fork gang

[north pier]

I BEEN FORK GANG -minus special no judge ;_;

[novel wasp]

you gotta use all forks to be the true fork gang

[north pier]

i got

that salad fork

[novel wasp]

u got that

Imma be using aspect of 🚚 while playing vaporwave running in the 90s

[zealous flare]

Does it bother anyone else that every time they're on a new best time, they get screwed on the Satyr tunnels?

[static wadi]

i do not care about best time

[north pier]

There is exactly one map in this whole game I don't like and it's a satyr room

it's the room with two blade traps, a poison trap at the entry, and a poison trap on the pointless upper part

[quaint hinge]

^ this

[north pier]

there are 2 cures, but they're BOTH between the blade traps

[static wadi]

@north pier just stay close to blade traps

[quaint hinge]

That room is shhhhhiiiitteeee.

[north pier]

yeah i sure do

[static wadi]

and they kill all your enemies

[north pier]

@static wadi

oh they sure don't @static wadi

[static wadi]

untill there are walking urnes

[north pier]

i've tried every strategy, and i still think it's obnoxious how there's an entire upper area that I can't use because half the time it's poison, like why

like poison is hard enough, it routes the character

but like

[static wadi]

what can i say

git gud(

[north pier]

i wish there was an area past that upper are

NAH

THIS IS THE ONE ROOM

that i do not like

i get to complain about this room

[static wadi]

there is safe area behind columns

safe area between traps

[north pier]

the upper area needs a second area attached that lets you get to the second cure that's literally on top of the traps

i don't even care if it has another poison floor

i need to get to that second cure

[static wadi]

i think there is enough space

[north pier]

it's nuts

i've never in my life used the cure that's on top of the blade traps

[static wadi]

well if u think cure pool is far - just dont get yourself poisoned

[north pier]

but literally the whole room is poison

[static wadi]

i feel like Hypnos

[north pier]

that room destroys me unless i have some dumb build or athena

guarantee i lose at least half health

literally the whole game is absurdly perfect but MAN this ROOM DUDE

that room stresses me out

[brisk trail]

100th attempt, 46th escape, and Zag is Employee of the Week(?) on lounge wall. lol

[north pier]

I AM NOW OFFICIALLY ||FRIENDS|| WITH DUSA

THIS HAS BEEN PERFECT

[granite rapids]

I was able to do 1693 damage on a hit using the bow with a bunch of damage boosting stuff + critical chance

[zealous flare]

Yeah thats my least favourite satyr room as well

[wind wedge]

I'd say the worst styx rooms are the big ones; but of the small ones leading up to them, that's definitely the worst.

[placid spindle]

thank you supergiant for designing chaos

chaos is seriously my favorite design in hades for any of the characters

[bright lance]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JAQh544RHE
I saw this and was instantly reminded of Hades

too bad its about Zeus and not Hades LOL

I would 100% watch an animated show about Zagreus and Hades

[hushed hamlet]

Chaos is my spirit animal

I had like 40 health and was like

IMMA GO MEET CHAOS

[ancient frost]

hey guys

having a little problem with steam achievements

so i just maxed all of the keepsakes, but didn't get the achievements for collecting all of them nor maxing them out

any fix?

[wind wedge]

did you actually get all of the keepsakes? ||even Hades?||

[ancient frost]

oh

that's why

k thanks

[wind wedge]

I think the achievement needs all of them, including the endgame stuff, yeah.

[ancient frost]

makes sense

[bitter needle]

Does anybody know how to make getting legendary and duo boons more frequently? I’ve been following the required guidelines to get certain ones (as best as I can with rng) and there are a few that continue to thwart me

[wise sparrow]

did you get all mirror upgrades

[bitter needle]

Yea:(

[slate jetty]

Good ways to increase your duo/legendary chance are:
-Buying Yarn of Ariadne from well of Charon and taking Refreshing Nectar from Eurydice, those directly upgrade rarity.
-Visiting miniboss rooms, those always have boons with upgraded rarity.
-Taking Favor blessing from Chaos, that may seem small, but it actually greatly increases your chances.
Though nothing directly guarantees the duos/legendaries, those things increase your chances significantly.

[novel wasp]

Also, I wanna add

Use god keepsakes or your fated dices to tip the room boon rate to you, also assemble your 4 god pantheon early on

so it will have more chances for it to spawn

[bitter needle]

Ok thx guys❤️❤️

[fleet zephyr]

now that im thinking about it...
is "this will come in useful" grammatically correct?
or is does Zag say it wrong on purpose

[wind wedge]

Yes, it's a valid phrase in English

(in this construction "come in" is used in the sense of "prove to be".)

[bitter needle]

FINAL BOSS SPOILER ALERT:
||Hades: You can’t kill me!!
Me: his second phase and I still have all 3 death defiance uses and an OP call :3||

[dawn tiger]

Or you know, #h1-story-discussion

[bitter needle]

I figured it didn’t fit there cause I’m not talking about the story and I’ve seen other people comment similar things so I thought I’d just put it here🤷 you don’t have to reveal the spoiler that’s why I tagged it

[zinc nacelle]

does anyone know if hades is gonna be on sale on steam sooN?

[void vigil]

halloween sale is this month, it might go on sale then

[weary gorge]

I've been playing so much hades the last couple of days my hands are sore from holding the joycons. If I lie on my back the controllers dig into my palms and its actually gotten pretty painful

[safe marlin]

I mean I can think of 1 immediate solution?

[nocturne drum]

Man oh man is|| the Hades battle increased with the pact|| hard!

[weary gorge]

removal of the hands?

[safe marlin]

you know I was thinking of laying on the stomach but that could work too

[nocturne drum]

@weary gorge this has helped me immensely with that problem.

Satisfye - ZenGrip Pro, a Switch Grip Compatible with Nintendo Switch - Comfortable & Ergonomic Grip, Joy Con & Switch Control. #1 Switch Accessories Designed for Gamers. BONUS: 2 Thumbsticks https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FNJJG5V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_T7UGFbR4FG6P7

[weary gorge]

cool, if that ships to me that'd solve this problem

[nocturne drum]

That’s the only way I play in handheld. So much more comfortable.

[weary gorge]

does it work laying on your back?

that's why they dig into my hands so hard

[nocturne drum]

Yup. The handles themselves lay very comfortably on my front, and holds the switch up higher so I don’t have to. For me, it’s quite perfect.

If you tend to carry your switch around a lot out of the house, they make a case that fits the grip with the switch.

[weary gorge]

I don't tend to carry it around much. I think the majority of my switch time is in bed (and I wonder why I don't get enough sleep)

[earnest remnant]

Someone help me. Is there any reason to use the bow regular aspect over Chiron or Rama? I don't seem to enjoy the regular bow at all.

[carmine ravine]

if u dont like it dont use it

[unkempt sleet]

There is no penalty for overusing weapons or aspects. Use whatever you fancy.

[safe marlin]

Hera bow is generally regarded as the best bow but chiron and zag are considered to be ok by the sweaty players

[earnest remnant]

Sweaty players?

There are a few aspects that feel unusably bad to me. One is Guan Yu. Other is Regular bow.

[unkempt sleet]

Base crit on attack is mostly fine, but Artemis really helps

[high island]

I haven't heard of Hera being considered best by anyone.

[earnest remnant]

I've actually never tried Hera, despite having like 80 runs in the game.

[carmine ravine]

i personally like hidden bow more but that seems an unpopular opinion

[high island]

It's not unpopular really.

[earnest remnant]

Yeah, Rama is fun. The special is awesome.

[high island]

Coronacht's been buffed just recently, so the jury is still out.

Chiron is very good.

And Zag Aspect with Heartbreak Strike can do a whole lot of damage. Especially if you can get Heart Rend.

[carmine ravine]

rama does feel somewhat faster than before

[dawn tiger]

Coronacht overall feels pretty fun honestly

[timid ravine]

Coronacht is my hands-down favorite tbh

also hello, I am new and very bad at this game

[carmine ravine]

i literally hates bow on keyboard, its good on controller tho

[timid ravine]

(I meant new to the server but I'm new to the game too, as much as anyone can be new to a month old game)

[deep geyser]

Honeslty the bow is hard for me

Hera seems fun but I like Spear alot

Especially with the explosive toss upgrade

[carmine ravine]

i kinda hate spear and shield but idk why

[deep geyser]

The toss maybe?

Cause that's my boggest problem, the toss leaving you unarmed

[brisk trail]

I like the one that locks on after you use your normal attack and the legendary one. Otherwise the special just doesn’t do enough for me

[deep geyser]

But yeah spear with explosive toos, I had a build with that and crit special and it was volatile but fun

[winged quartz]

i'm just amazed by the number of voice lines and dialogue in this game, that is nuts

[carmine ravine]

it has a lot, almost fallout level

[tawdry flower]

For Hera bow, combining it with a boon like Dionysus’ cast makes it reeeeeeally good.

And/Or the boon that increases damage when you don’t have cast crystals.

[deep geyser]

Yeah

Im curious about trying it with some other gods tho. Zeus doesn't work great imo, wondeirng about Artemis

[glad mist]

Finished my first run last night that rush at the end I havent felt in a while

[deep geyser]

Congrats!

Currently on Asphodel rn

[faint garden]

Hi everyone! Congrats on finishing your first run Tuff Emily!

[glad mist]

Thank u

The game seems to have really opened up after I cant wait to do more

[deep geyser]

Wait did you just play your first run or beat your first run?

[glad mist]

Beat

[deep geyser]

Oh nice!

What weapon?

[glad mist]

Chaos shield

[deep geyser]

Ooh cool

I got my first win with the Zeus Shield lol

Uh

Yeah so Hera bow + Dio Cast is uh

Yeah its nice

[tawdry flower]

I’d assume Hera with Ares would also be nice

[humble quarry]

In my experience is not unless you get hunting blades, but thats a bit of a gamble

[tawdry flower]

Fair enough

[sudden dock]

I can already see a DLC that expands the game. What if you can continue in the overworld in a Titan Quest like more open dungeon where you save the villages of the mortals from satyr attacks? Then you can travel to a volcanic wasteland and defeat a giant titan. At last you confront the rest of the gods you haven't used on Olympus! +2 more boons for every god so you can get powerful asf.

[deep geyser]

That could be interesting. I'd love to see Hephaestus brought in in some way cause he's my boy

[sudden dock]

Yeah, there are more deities that could play a role above ground.

[gusty slate]

Ah the dream, a DLC

[deep geyser]

Ugh I have so much trouible on the final boss

Ok do you guys ever designate runs as like resource runs?

Like where you're just really going for resources and beating the run is second priority?

[fading gazelle]

Every run is a resource run

I mean beating the run will always be a top priority

[deep geyser]

Thats fair

[fading gazelle]

Since ||Bounties|| only refresh after beating the final boss

[deep geyser]

Hoenstly I just have so much trouble with ||Hades||

[fading gazelle]

||Hades|| is an extremely well telegraphed boss so my first suggestion is to get acquainted with their move set first and fore most

[brisk trail]

Your bes bet in that regard would be a darkness farming run, but even then the darkness rooms and infernal troves can be ass to spawn

[deep geyser]

That might help, but the ||enemies they spawn make it difficult for me||

[fading gazelle]

@deep geyser I completely agree, ||the enemy spawn|| is the most unpredictable

[gusty slate]

Yeah that RNG there is pretty rough

tbh I just got really good at predicting when moves were coming at me. Also using the entire room

[deep geyser]

And I don't get to ||Hades|| enough to know their moves yet lol

[fading gazelle]

I'd say I always just bum rush him when he starts ||spawning them since they die the moment he drops to second phase||

[deep geyser]

I usually only have one or no Death Defies left

[gusty slate]

Ah I see, where are you getting held up before redacted?

[fading gazelle]

Don't worry! Practice makes perfect!

[brisk trail]

I'd reccomend the shield, safe and may help getting how the guy works

[winter river]

And I don't get to ||Hades|| enough to know their moves yet lol
@deep geyser

When ||he goes invisible, look for fire footsteps, and expect an immediate attack when he comes out||
Look for ||a white circle to indicate spin attack||
When you see ||spears start to spin around him, its laser time, jump behind a barrier||
When ||he winds back, he's either throwing a skull or doing a thrust||

[deep geyser]

Honstly the ||skulls|| are a pain in the rump too

Like do you destroy them or just jump over the waves?

[fading gazelle]

I mean they are pretty weak so you can destroy them

But keep a dash ready incase you don't have enough time to react

[brisk trail]

It can be hard to dodge them with redacted chasing, you can leave them if they're far off in a corner

[hidden pawn]

If there was a fire god, what mechanics might they have?

[brisk trail]

Blew on my blood on unlocking the aspect of ||Lucifer|| now i don't have any to actually use the thang ding. AHHHH

[tawdry flower]

It’s pretty good even at level 1

[brisk trail]

No, like i spent the 5 to get it, and now i don't have three to unlock it

feelsbadman

[tawdry flower]

Ah. Got confused by your use of “unlocking”

[brisk trail]

yeah, my words is bad

[fading gazelle]

@hidden pawn I'd wouldn't know how it'd work, but it'd most likely be Hestia

[calm orbit]

Or Hephaestus

[steady sentinel]

what about Helios?

[hidden pawn]

^Apollo

[fading gazelle]

Helios is a Titan so it would more likely lean onto Apollo if you'd want to compare it to the Sun

But neither of these people have a chance in getting since it wouldn't exactly work with the story

And that's what SGG prioritized the most

[sweet basin]

What got you?
@quiet gull Every death was to ||Hades and to every phase including the third...||

[hidden pawn]

Do each of the Gods have a unique role in the story?

It would be just another olympian rooting zagreus along.

[silent igloo]

WooHoo! Made to Elysium for the first time today y’all!

[sweet basin]

eyyyyy

Beware the shield bois

[winter river]

If there was a fire god, what mechanics might they have?
@hidden pawn

I think it depends on if it was Hephaestus or Apollo, since they're really differently themed gods.

[dire sable]

https://i.imgur.com/XzeRXI2.png the thirst is real

[sweet basin]

XDDDD

[winter river]

I'd really like to see Apollo and Hera added.

[hidden pawn]

What would Hera provide?

[sweet basin]

I would also like to see them

Hera especially since I know nothing about her

Except that Zeus wont bone her XD

[winter river]

Not totally sure mechanically, but she's all bloody vengeance type stuff in mythology. Could potentially be strength related since she's associated strongly with Heracles.

[sweet basin]

Cast boon focus?

I would be so down with that

[winter river]

I mean, you could have some cast boons, but there would need to be a unique theme for core boons too

[gusty slate]

Sounds on theme, Hera Aspect is pretty scary lookin

[sweet basin]

Of course

Love that weapon

[mortal isle]

Quick question, I can’t put a photo but, in the test branch read me, it says something about supporting the game, and the test branch wasn’t in indication that they would be supporting the game further? Or did I read that wrong

[gusty slate]

They aren't doing big things with the game for now

[mortal isle]

Ah gotcha

[gusty slate]

Just bug fixes and balances

[winter river]

Since she's very murdery and tends to focus her wrath in a grudge oriented way, maybe its a debuff that ramps damage for focusing a single enemy as a single target?

[gusty slate]

They don't want people thinking test branch means they're going to still work on big updates

[hidden pawn]

So ‘take a break and recharge’ does not mean come back to hades later with new content?

[gusty slate]

However, there is no confirmation or denial of their future plans with Hades

They'll let us know when they're ready

[hidden pawn]

Hephaestus would be cool with like a volcanic or explosive effect.

[winter river]

Ya, or lava

[hidden pawn]

Yeah

What would his cast be?

[winter river]

Hephaestus legendary should be an upgrade to hammers that makes them better (including ones you already have)

Getting rid of downsides or otherwise improving them

[steep mulch]

golden hammers?

[hidden pawn]

Or a volcanic fireball

[drifting bone]

https://puu.sh/GBUsC/95c9abbb8c.png
Does anyone know why i have a constnat +1 here?

[winter river]

I think maybe cast leaves a lava trail that only damages enemies, maybe with a red hue to contrast the orange of asphodel

[steep mulch]

maybe ones that let you choose from more options

+1 means you have more boons not shown

[deep geyser]

@drifting bone You have a boon thats not shown, usually a pssive one

[drifting bone]

ah ok, so this is active? https://puu.sh/GBUth/d4b73037ca.png

its dark thirst or something

[hidden pawn]

Hephaestus might be weird lorewise tho since he’s not on Mt Olympus.

[winter river]

He's considered an olympian generally

Unless the list includes hestia

There's 12 thrones on Olympus, so the canon is generally
Zeus
Poseidon
Hera
Demeter
Apollo
Artemis
Athena
Ares
Aphrodite

And then the last three get mixed around between Hephaestus, Hermes, Dionysus and Hestia. Rarely, Hades gets included but he's generally not an olympian.

[deep geyser]

And though Hephaestus isn't on Mt. Olympus, Hermes is a messanger and he gets around so that makes sense, but Hephaestus is related to the olympians so he has a connection

[magic kayak]

I have two questions

1. I have 8 hours in Hades but still didnt encountered Demeter. Should i do smth to encounter him?
2. How do i get Legendary/Heroic boons? Havent encountered one of them as well.

[tawdry flower]

@magic kayak you need to reach Final Boss once for her to show up

[winter river]

Since we have Hermes and Dionysus already, the last one would probably be Hephaestus or Hestia. Traditionally, Hestia left Olympus for a more humble life, vacating a seat, so Hephaestus makes more sense.

[tawdry flower]

Legendary Boons usually require having specific other boons as prerequisites and are rarer until you get mid/late game and up their chance of spawning

[quiet gull]

Hephaestus/Aphrodite duo boon would also be comedy gold for the dialogue

[tawdry flower]

Heroic you CANT get as the starting level, they have to be upgraded

[magic kayak]

Oooh. Damn that rats they spit poison to me. I reached to styx temple twice but those rats always killed me
#endrats

[winter river]

I have two questions

1. I have 8 hours in Hades but still didnt encountered Demeter. Should i do smth to encounter him?
2. How do i get Legendary/Heroic boons? Havent encountered one of them as well.
   @magic kayak

Demeter is a she/her lol

[magic kayak]

Sorry for my bad england :d

[hidden pawn]

If both Hephaestus and Apollo made it, what would apollos motif be?

[quiet gull]

Demeter only starts appearing after you encounter the final boss, I think

Or is it after you get a win? I forget

[brisk trail]

yep you have to reach oytside at least once

[glad mist]

Just encounter

Dont have to to win

[magic kayak]

Heroic you CANT get as the starting level, they have to be upgraded
I saw a streamer getting heroic boon. He was replacing his boon. I think that is another way of getting heroic boon yeah?

[tawdry flower]

(Replace a boon on Attack/Special/Cast/Call with another boon and it will be a higher rank. There’s a character in lava world that increases ranks of two boons at random. There’s a boon that lowers rarity and they increase in rarity gradually after that)

[quiet gull]

There are two ways to get heroic boons. The normal way is by boon trading witha nother god. Demeter also has a special boon that can boost other boons' rarity

Oh yeah, forgot about the NPC. Three ways, then

[magic kayak]

Arigato

[tawdry flower]

There are also duo boons that require you to have very specific combinations of other boons before they show up for you

[magic kayak]

I know that

I encountered them once

[arctic onyx]

I have a question does getting bonds with gods do anything to the keepsakes? Or is it just a badge in the keepsake menu?

[tawdry flower]

Just a badge

[magic kayak]

Yeah i wanna know that too

Ohhh

Okay so i can trade my nectars

I thought i have to give nectars to specific god to open legendary boons l m a o

[quiet gull]

I have a question does getting bonds with gods do anything to the keepsakes? Or is it just a badge in the keepsake menu?
@arctic onyx No

[winter river]

Hephaestus/Aphrodite duo boon would also be comedy gold for the dialogue
@quiet gull
YES! Also, Hephaestus + Ares "Oh erm, Ares, uh nice to see you, erm..."
"Oh yeah, Hephaestus, big fan, love those weapons! War wouldn't be the same without all your cool inventions!"
"Ya, thanks, I really.... I can't do this, I know your hooking up with my wife, you punk!"

[tawdry flower]

A lot of gods at home base need max relationships from nectar to give you something else when you give ambrosia

[arctic onyx]

Nectars are still needed to unlock further dialogue and 'story' for other peopl @magic kayak

[tawdry flower]

Also, the ||epilogue|| requires you to|| max relationships with six of the Olympian gods||

[magic kayak]

Story is foor nErds

[arctic onyx]

and also, other things

[magic kayak]

I play game and die

Again and again...

[arctic onyx]

There are other unlockables for getting bonds with everyone

[magic kayak]

Cwool

[tawdry flower]

Six specific character give you the gold keepsakes when you give them the first ambrosia

[magic kayak]

Okay now i gotta take my leave to do homewurk

Otherwise you knoe

[arctic onyx]

but thanks for answering my question guys

[magic kayak]

My teacher will beat me

Cya

[winter river]

If both Hephaestus and Apollo made it, what would apollos motif be?
@hidden pawn
So Apollo has alot of potential themes. Medicine/Healing, Light/Sun, Music, Philosophy, Science. Also sometimes dragon slaying.

[tawdry flower]

Inflicting blind on enemies could be interesting

[hidden pawn]

Also prophecy

[winter river]

That too

[magic kayak]

I think it would be cwool if he had dual wielding for some weapons

Like using both shield and sword/spear

[carmine ravine]

just become theseus

[winter river]

Eh, I think duel wielding would get confusing

[magic kayak]

Or after i throw my shield i continue to beat enemis with my fists

Other weapons are stronger i think

[heady canopy]

Only theseus that right 😔

[tawdry flower]

Or at least a spartan kick

[magic kayak]

Dual fists and bow is easiest to beat hades

Nobody cares about the other weapon

[fading gazelle]

Yeah sadly Theseus is the only person I've seen dual wield our weapon types

[gusty slate]

Don't think the infernal arms would take too kindly to another one stealing their food

[magic kayak]

Like if you get Not bad not good level boons and %900 armor pierce on dash strike when you have dual fists if you are not bad at game you have high chance of beating hades i think

[winter river]

Theseus doesn't really duel wield. He only blocks with the shield

[heavy crane]

He does a bull rush with the shield though

[fading gazelle]

But with the spear

It's more like him being thrown than using the shield to bull rush

The "bull" rushes him

But he does use the shield for that one team tactic

[heavy crane]

Wait what

[magic kayak]

Yes

[heavy crane]

he throws his spear

[fading gazelle]

Asterius charges into Theseus to create a large wave that you have to dash through to avoid

[heavy crane]

yea i know that

[magic kayak]

I still spend 2 death defiences to beat them

[heavy crane]

but he also does a solo move with his shield

by doing a bull rush

[fading gazelle]

No...?

[magic kayak]

He blocks that is enough i think

[fading gazelle]

He has a spin and throw

[heavy crane]

hmm im pretty sure he does. lemme find a clip

[magic kayak]

When hard to dash and strike weapons (bow, The gun) etheseus is hard.

[hidden pawn]

If hera is about petty vengeance, what kind of colors do you think her effects will have?

[magic kayak]

And he calls gods for help

[hidden pawn]

I think Apollo would have white-yellow

Like a really soft sunlight

[magic kayak]

Yeah that wouldda be cool

Apollo is cool

But have you ever thought why demeter only gives you winter boons?

Last time i checked we had liek 4 seasons

[fading gazelle]

I think Apollo would still be pretty nice to have story-wise him and Artemis are twins

Demeter is the Goddess of Harvest mostly

[magic kayak]

Wha

That doesnt make any sense

[fading gazelle]

The winter is her power of taking harvest away from us mortalss

[magic kayak]

Oohh

I get it

[weary yacht]

what count as standard keepsakes?

[magic kayak]

Then why SG called her god of seasons?

[inland leaf]

cuz that's also true

[tawdry flower]

@magic kayak also, in mythology, when ||Persephone|| goes to the underworld, it’s winter while she’s away

[fading gazelle]

I mean she is referred to as the goddess of seasons by some people

[glad mist]

Well its cause of the seasons that the harvest happens

[hidden pawn]

She goes full winter when persephone is in the underworld

[fading gazelle]

||Persephone|| is the goddess of springtime/harvest/underworld

[magic kayak]

Okay but when you call someone god of seasons they shoullda give 4 type of boons not only winter

[gusty slate]

Well her mood would have great bias

[magic kayak]

When i first saw demeter i was confused

[weary yacht]

no, its because of her having put all of humanity in cold winter, so she is focusing on one side of her powers

[heavy crane]

He has a spin and throw
@fading gazelle https://youtu.be/fIQHybTwoeo?t=101

You can see here that he does a shield rush

[fading gazelle]

Timestamp?

[hidden pawn]

Maybe its cause they didn’t have an ice god and she fit the bill best

[gusty slate]

but she does have minor references to being seasons

[tawdry flower]

We’re in an eternal winter during the plot of the game

[heavy crane]

yea

just press the link

[gusty slate]

The one boon that ups rarity

[fading gazelle]

Oh okay

[heavy crane]

it's in the range of the spear throw though

[fading gazelle]

Hmmm

[heavy crane]

so i guess it's just rng which moves he does

[fading gazelle]

Its the team tactic where Asterius throws him

[heavy crane]

Well its cause of the seasons that the harvest happens
@glad mist actually her legendary is Winter Harvest

one of the coolest boons

[hidden pawn]

Lol

[fading gazelle]

@heavy crane https://i.imgur.com/PBMbLlO.png

[hidden pawn]

I was gonna say that heras boons should be centered on her signature bird

[fading gazelle]

Attacks with his spear

[hidden pawn]

The pea**

[winter river]

lol

[open shard]

Hey there, I have a question... I'm trying to decide which aspect to get or to improve one of them

[weary yacht]

what counts as standard keepsake?

[fading gazelle]

@open shard Which is your fav weapon?

[open shard]

Is maxing nem blade worth it?

[heavy crane]

Attacks with his spear
@fading gazelle ah yea

[fading gazelle]

Ye

[open shard]

Honestly Chiron's bow

But Nem blade with artemis boon is fire

Not gonna lie

[tawdry flower]

The non-gold keepsakes, I’m assuming, @weary yacht

[heavy crane]

and the hammer that gives you multiple hits on dash

chef's kiss

sting like bee float like a butterfly build

[royal escarp]

There was a channel for game design feedback, am I right ? Is it gone since 1.0 ? Or am I bling 😂 ?

[unkempt sleet]

It was archived

[gusty slate]

It's archived now yeah

[open shard]

So yeah i have no idea on what to max, and honestly i have been scarse on titan blood lately

[winter river]

@hidden pawn Peac*ock feathers would be a cool color theme

[royal escarp]

is there any way to see it ?

[hidden pawn]

I think either iridescent or white.

[fading gazelle]

Not anymore I think

[royal escarp]

(I'm actually doing homework on analyzing a community's impact on a game, and I chose Hades ^^)

[fading gazelle]

Ahhh I see

Well you could always dm a moderator or contact supergiant through their email for more info

[heavy crane]

So yeah i have no idea on what to max, and honestly i have been scarse on titan blood lately
@open shard which weapon do you like the most?

[gusty slate]

Might be able to look at their old QA videos(?)

[fading gazelle]

^

[royal escarp]

Good idea !

[open shard]

Honestly Chiron's Bow is my fave

[fading gazelle]

The Hades documentary by noclip is also chock full with info

[deep geyser]

Wait documentary?

[royal escarp]

@fading gazelle I could have, but I kinda slacked off and the homework is due today, so I don't have time anymore 😂

[heavy crane]

there's a multiple part doc available on youtube

[fading gazelle]

@royal escarp I could timestamp the certain parts that might to look for

[heavy crane]

Honestly Chiron's Bow is my fave
@open shard if you like spear hades aspect is my fave

[deep geyser]

Honestly getting Titans Blood is so tough for me

[heavy crane]

also hidden aspect of bow is realllyyy fun too

[gusty slate]

It's a grind

[open shard]

Yeah titan blood is kind of hard to get after your +4 meg kills

[heavy crane]

and then nemesis aspect for sword

and then hidden aspect for fists

[open shard]

I prefer to just farm keys for it

[deep geyser]

I just unlocked the special aspect for the spear

[open shard]

and then nemesis aspect for sword
@heavy crane yeah this is my second fave

[royal escarp]

@fading gazelle Wow thanks ! But don't worry, I'm gonna be fine 😅
Already saw the documentary 😀

[deep geyser]

I haven't gotten out ||with any heat|| yet

[fading gazelle]

All the best!

[heavy crane]

also hestia aspect for rail can set up some nice sniper shots

[gusty slate]

Might be able to look at the feedback channel, might go all the way back and look at patchnotes to see what SGG took into consideration

[heavy crane]

is redacted's spin attack hitbox supposed to be like this? i was in front of him and should have reduced damage by 30%

[fading gazelle]

Remember to spoiler that image

It's double ||

[heavy crane]

how?

[fading gazelle]

On both sides

or just /spoiler

[heavy crane]

||https://imgur.com/zwiCOxT||

[gusty slate]

Looks normal to me?

[fading gazelle]

Same?

I mean I see Athena deflect but I assume that's holy shield kicking in

[gusty slate]

It similar to how our ||spear spin|| works, so that looks like it to me

[heavy crane]

its dash deflect

[fading gazelle]

might be a frame off then

cause it looks like the end of the spin but start of dash

So you might have been a tad bit too late

[quiet gull]

Remember that dash attack has less iframes

[fading gazelle]

Dash attack has no i-frames

[quiet gull]

In general, try to get away of the radius entirely

[heavy crane]

||https://imgur.com/Bwpxzh1||

[gusty slate]

A normal dash might've saved em

[fading gazelle]

I disagree with dashing away and I'd say dashing into the spin is much more better

[heavy crane]

my build was this so i was just spamming attack lol

yea

[quaint hinge]

Hey guys. Does this http://puu.sh/GBV6Q/c0df81a508.png work with the Chiron Bow? If you do use the special after attack does each arrow count as a consecutive hit?

[gusty slate]

Dashing in either direction comes down to how confident you are

[heavy crane]

hmm for ruthless dash i think dashing away is safer

[fading gazelle]

@quaint hinge I think this does work on Chiron?

[quaint hinge]

Like - is it each arrow or each ability use.

[quiet gull]

Yes, but it only counts within a single special

[heavy crane]

i think the frames of the spin attack is more than the i frames of the dash

[quaint hinge]

A single special. Not each arrow. Ok.

[fading gazelle]

@heavy crane Nope

It definitely has less

I have dashed through that a million time

[heavy crane]

hmm gotta try ruthless again then

[gusty slate]

Ruthless should work still, I played that exclusively until I turned on FO2

[quiet gull]

If you spam dash you can definitely go through the spin, but having +2 dashes really helps with that

[gusty slate]

The timing is just harsher without that second dash yeah

[quiet gull]

Oh yeah, if you're not using the mirror perk of +1 dash, turn it on

The other one is almost useless

[heavy crane]

what no way

[quiet gull]

It'll get you killed most of the time

[heavy crane]

50% damage increase and dodge is really good

but only on low heat levels i think its good

[quiet gull]

The added mobility is so much better than that

[gusty slate]

Wow

That's a bit harsh

It's not that bad, can always hope for Hermes extra dash. Having only the one dash sorta forces you to get better at dodging and precision... at least that's my opinion on it

lol I used it until ~heat 14/15 as FO2 was on so that I wouldn't rely so much on more dashes

[heavy crane]

yea i definitely learned more of the attack patterns with ruthless on

[gusty slate]

It's also sorta amusing with dodge fist build

It gives extra dodge too doesn't it?

[heavy crane]

||https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/wucfNFAlrmDmurR4mmf7XO0vfH1PYz6YFLo27QbOgwGExMGs3wUlOsXAGil9Ksu7k0lRUA2sVw=w1200-h630-p||

[quiet gull]

It's not that bad, can always hope for Hermes extra dash. Having only the one dash sorta forces you to get better at dodging and precision... at least that's my opinion on it
@gusty slate I'd rather not depend on HAVING to get extra dashes

[heavy crane]

@gusty slate i think FO2 is really harsh for heat 15

||https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/wucfNFAlrmDmurR4mmf7XO0vfH1PYz6YFLo27QbOgwGExMGs3wUlOsXAGil9Ksu7k0lRUA2sVw=w1200-h630-p||

[gusty slate]

I have FO2 on at all times now

Can't get complacent!

[hidden pawn]

Multidash is also crazy with offensive dashes

With zeus it lets you dash enemies to death

Its not just an extra dodge its also an extra attack

[tawdry flower]

Poseidon even more so

Poseidon’s dash with +1 knockback, rupture, extra damage to bosses, explosions when enemies hit the ball

[steady sentinel]

Can someone please tell me what does FO2 mean?

[gusty slate]

Ah if you beat the final boss you'll see

[surreal beacon]

Forced OVertime 2

[steady sentinel]

i beated it like 15 times

[surreal beacon]

it's one of the heat options to make mooks attack faster

with level 2 it's like...40 percent?

off the top of my head?

[gusty slate]

Ah, yeah it's 40% at FO2

[south lava]

40% faster. Affects bosses too, not just mooks.

[steady sentinel]

ohh ok that makes sense

thanks

[inner thicket]

||is arthur aura some separate thing than the ground affect that special creates or is that it?||

[gusty slate]

That's it

The ||aura is the shiny ethereal looking thing on the ground after a special that slows down projectiles, stops traps, and gives def boost||

[inner thicket]

thx!

[woven cipher]

I heard you can only get 4 God boon per run, is that locked based on who you pick up, or is that locked at the start of the run?

So if I get Demeter room, but don't pick it, am I stuck with her?

[flat vapor]

no, it's based on who you pick up

[woven cipher]

Thanks, that's good

Where do I get these kind of advanced info btw? The wiki never mentioned it

Is there like an in depth guide?

[fallow laurel]

Hello! How do I see how many times I managed to beat the game,m

?*

And beat the final boss

Post release ofc

I lost count

[brisk trail]

Any time you clear you can see how many times you've beaten the game.

Alternately, you can check each weapon in the courtyard and it will list individual clears, just gotta throw up a Calculator app and plug.

[fallow laurel]

No way to see how many post game's launch?

[brisk trail]

i love the festive POG 🤭

I'm not sure I follow, wreckingintent.

[gusty slate]

Yeah don't think it counts post 1.0

[fallow laurel]

I dont wanna spoil stuff

@gusty slate yeaaah

Thanks for wording it better

[gusty slate]

Gotta math back to when Redacted gives the special first clear dialogue

:/

Best thing we can do is keep playing and clearing

if you're going for ending

[ancient dirge]

i know there's no info out there, but anyone think we'll see hades offered on ps5/xbox s|x soon after launch?

[brisk trail]

Once the launch hustle is over, SGG is taking a break to regroup and recharge. Any plans after that will be addressed then.

[kind grotto]

I have a question - does attack damage increase affect dash strikes?

does it do the same amount of damage?

i notice enchantments are different for both attack and dash strikes

[slate jetty]

yes, anything that increases your attack increases your dashstrike damage. anything that affects dashstrike only increases dashstrike damage.

[timid ravine]

from what I've seen, anything that says 'attack' means any time you press the Attack button, basically?

[slate jetty]

however, hammers are an exception, if a hammer says attack, it will only work on attack.

[brisk trail]

Thanks, Cursed/Shadow Slash.

I don't want you to affect my Double-Edge Dash-Strikes, that'd be teeerrible.

[gusty slate]

An absolute crime

[north bison]

is there any reason all the furies only have left wings? 🤔

[brisk trail]

Meg has a right wing, I think.

[north bison]

oh, i guess i meant right. they all have right wings

[brisk trail]

I know some of the statues in the Fury boss room have opposing wings.

Tisiphone's wing is over her left shoulder, she's the only one.

[wind nest]

Really? Wow I’ve never noticed that

Maybe the furies were birthed from the statue?

[timid ravine]

I have a few characters I'm trying to earn relationship points with, but I also always want to talk to them, but sometimes if I do one or the other, there's no option left after. If I want to do both should I give the gift first or do the dialogue?

[fading gazelle]

I mean SG took many liberties with the designs of many characters in the game. Some are blatantly fitting (Zeus, Aphrodite, etc) but people like Furies are interesting since there are some descriptions of them that they are crones and have snakes for hair. Most of them described them as monsters basically. Also them being mother night's children is also interesting since I think the more believed story is that Uranus castrated Kronos and the furies sprang from his blood

Gifting first is usually a better idea since some disappear after talking to them. (Dusa and Thanatos being the mot common one to do that)

[timid ravine]

Yeah Dusa's one I've had trouble with, but I feel like at least once she's run after gifting and then I couldn't talk to her

[obtuse zephyr]

What enemy applies the caustic debuff? Its the only one I'm missing on the prophecy

[fading gazelle]

Caustic is a curse of Chaos

[obtuse zephyr]

Ah that would explain it

[fading gazelle]

It's the one where enemies drop a bomb after death

[obtuse zephyr]

Thank you

[fading gazelle]

No prob

[jolly river]

I started playing hades and I love it, but will there be any post game updates, Ive plenty to do, but I noticed it said 1.0, does that mean there will be more

[tawdry flower]

1.0 just is game dev lingo for release version

The devs are taking a break now the official launch happened a few weeks ago

No announced plans for further content yet

[fading gazelle]

We've gotten word that there be a few more updates that will just be patches and bug fixess for 1.0

Nothing much on DLC and new content

[jolly river]

alright, Ill post again once I get 100 heat with malphon

[tawdry flower]

I don’t think 100 is possible

[fading gazelle]

Wait wha...

57 is the maximum

58 if you are on hell mode

[void vigil]

63 is the maximum now, 64 on hell mode

[fading gazelle]

Oh so they did add more heat

I was lied to

[tawdry flower]

You have to unlock ||EM4||

[jolly river]

dont care

going to 100

[fading gazelle]

Nah someone said they reworked the other heats to balance

So I thought it was still 58

[static wadi]

dew it

[jolly river]

also idk if this is spoiler but ill mark it

[static wadi]

@jolly river read pinned messages in #h1-story-discussion

[jolly river]

ah ok

[static wadi]

btw isnt ||heat|| spoiler too?

[tawdry flower]

||The spear is first. Needs 5 aspects unlocked in other weapons and talking to Achilles after fighting Hades once||

It is

[static wadi]

damn i want to play Hades but want up platinum till season ends too(

[fading gazelle]

Plat in what game?

Overwatch?

[static wadi]

lol

and in hades i'm soon 16 ||heat|| with a bow

[fading gazelle]

Nice

Next do 32

[uneven scaffold]

hades isn't coming to ps4 right? asking for a friend

[static wadi]

i'm not sure i can

[fading gazelle]

The only console that Hades is currently out on is Switch

[uneven scaffold]

kk, ty

[fading gazelle]

New ports might be coming soon though

[brisk trail]

Yo I'm feeling the amount of gemstones/darkness they give you for a room is a really pitifully small amount

[static wadi]

@brisk trail so u just play more times

[brisk trail]

@static wadi *you

[static wadi]

aha

[obtuse zephyr]

Fishing and the prophecies fill you out quickly

[brisk trail]

Yeah but the rooms themselves are worthless

and usually you're locked into them when you really don't want them

like, omega worthless

so worthless that I'd rather have a room of nothingness

[obtuse zephyr]

They're better once you upgrade them with the contractor

[brisk trail]

Yeah. And I did.

[obtuse zephyr]

More meaningful during runs

[brisk trail]

And they're still pitifully small

5 max health isn't worth it

nor is the small amount of spare change

10 max health would be a consideration

[obtuse zephyr]

That seems excessive as the centaur hearts give you 25 and area an entire room reward. You're basically getting an extra heart or two during the run, that's not nothing

[brisk trail]

It is pretty nothing when you could be having boons or 100 gold or actual centaur hearts instead

[hardy escarp]

does zeus work with chaos shield?

[obtuse zephyr]

I think we'll have to agree to disagree there

[tawdry flower]

Eh. It’s nice when you’re farming those resources to at least get a pity prize extra

[brisk trail]

Every room should have some sort of worth or make you deliberate over whether to choose one reward over another

[tawdry flower]

The best one is Nectar

[brisk trail]

equal value etc

[obtuse zephyr]

Get zeus on special and it could be good, sure

[jade crescent]

huh I just got a run where the satyr sack is on the last room, I didn't know that was possible (I've got around 110 runs)

https://imgur.com/a/43xLFBs

[hardy escarp]

ye that's what I meant

[brisk trail]

Also

Presses give up

[hardy escarp]

cuz I heard it don't work with chiron bow

[brisk trail]

First room is always the same

[tawdry flower]

It can be any door 2-5

[jade crescent]

ah, thought it was 2-4

[obtuse zephyr]

Zeus doesn't work with the Chiron aspect? You sure? I'd do a test run and find out. I don't see why it wouldn't hit on each arrow in the special

[tawdry flower]

Poseidon Knockback works for all arrows

Pushing enemies clear across the room or repeatedly slamming them into the wall is fun

[grave path]

Hey guys, does cros progression work already?

[tawdry flower]

Like transferring save data?

[grave path]

from pc to switch

[tawdry flower]

They announced it’s coming this month

[grave path]

damn, cant wait for it

I wanna buy it for my Switch as well

[fresh steppe]

Zeus doesn’t work with Chiron special because zaps have a cd of 0.2 sec

[maiden urchin]

@hardy escarp try zeus special with blitz disc

it’s a lot of fun

[tawdry flower]

I mean, you could always fresh file the switch.

[maiden urchin]

work decently even with lv 1

[agile lichen]

Hey I just completed the story for hades so I thought I'd join here

Didn't know the game was so popular tbh

[tawdry flower]

SGG has a cult following

And adding Greek Mythology to a game draws in a lot of people

[agile lichen]

Evidently I suppose

[tawdry flower]

Plus, the two Indie showcases Nintendo did got a lot of attention with that trailer video

[agile lichen]

Yeah, I can't remember where I first heard of the game

[fading gazelle]

Is this your first SG game?

[brisk trail]

sorry to randomly pop in, but I'm so happy they're getting the attention they deserve! that means more games!

[fading gazelle]

If you loved Hades, do give their other games a shot

[agile lichen]

Is this your first SG game?
@fading gazelle it is yes

[fading gazelle]

I see

[agile lichen]

Oh okay

[fading gazelle]

I think Pyre is their most underated game

[agile lichen]

I also wanted to ask, is 10 days to finish the story quite slow?

[fading gazelle]

And it's my favorite story and soundtrack-wise

[brisk trail]

Sooo underrated

[fading gazelle]

I mean it took me 2 years to get the ending

[agile lichen]

I'll check it out, thanks> I think Pyre is their most underated game
@fading gazelle

[tawdry flower]

There is no average pace for the game

[agile lichen]

Fair enough

[tawdry flower]

Also, 10 days of 7 hours a day is different than 10 days of an hour or two

[agile lichen]

That's true, sorry the question was, whatever the word is, bad

Vague or, something

[fading gazelle]

Usually we say how many hours we've clocked into the game before we get the ending

That or attempts

[agile lichen]

Yeah I'm on switch and it has yet to tell me how many hours

Although the attempt was between 40 and 45

[fading gazelle]

That's great!

[agile lichen]

Oh, thank you

[fading gazelle]

I mean I've seen a lot of people just never complete games so if a person just manages to get to the credits, I consider that impressive

[agile lichen]

I suppose

I managed to keep myself spoiler free which I appreciated

[tawdry flower]

I had first win around 28 and credits around the same point your did

[agile lichen]

Cool

[timid ravine]

yeah, meeting other people playing this game is making me realize how bad I am

[agile lichen]

My first win was around there as well

Oh

It's okay I'm bad at most other games

[fading gazelle]

@timid ravine Don't worry about, we're a pretty small community

[timid ravine]

I just hit 40 and it was the... third? time I got to the Champions and died

and I turned on God Mode after 20

[agile lichen]

Have you played rogue likes before?

Rogue likes rogue lites or whatever you call it

[fading gazelle]

I mean I beat the game on my 6th attempt or smthn but I've just had a lot of experience with rougelikes

[agile lichen]

Oh nice

My first win was on run 22

[fading gazelle]

I'm a sucker for learning telegraphs in video games cause its so satisfying when you get it

[agile lichen]

Yeah, you must be very good

[tawdry flower]

Roguelikes typically involve taking turns / enemies only move when you do. Like crypt of the Necrodancer / cadence of Hyrule

[fading gazelle]

Ehhh, I'm decent 😅

[agile lichen]

Did you use god mode?

I assume not

[fading gazelle]

I still haven't turned it on

[tawdry flower]

Rogue Lites are where they keep the live-die-repeat aspect but transpose on a different genre

[agile lichen]

I still haven't turned it on
@fading gazelle same lol

[fading gazelle]

@tawdry flower Thanks for the definition!

[agile lichen]

Rogue Lites are where they keep the live-die-repeat aspect but transpose on a different genre
@tawdry flower thank you

I've only played 1 turn based rogue like

Which was slay the spire

[fading gazelle]

Slay the spire is good

[agile lichen]

I wasn't the greatest fan tbh

Never needed up beating the like, final final boss

[fading gazelle]

But this is turning into a convo for #video-games so we should probably move there if this is to continue 😅

[tawdry flower]

There was one I played back in PS2 days from Nippon Ichi or Atlus. And Necrodancer/Cadence

[agile lichen]

Oh, I didn't know sorry lol

[fading gazelle]

It's okay!

I've played a lot of rougelikes/rouguelites but I can't say which is my favorite

[tawdry flower]

It’s either Hades or Dead Cells for me

I prefer the gameplay for Dead Cells, but the art and story for Hades wins a lot of points in its favor

[static wadi]

dc difficulty jumps too high between lvls

hades is more smooth in this

[tawdry flower]

I mean, originally, the base level was so hard no one really finished. They definitely over corrected 0BC after that, which makes the jump to 1BC very drastic. The hardest is 2BC to be honest

I feel like coming from DC, Hades level up is kinda.... slow

Like tweaking such minor things here and there

[quaint hatch]

I stopped playing dead cells after 1bc

[static wadi]

u still can go right to 32

[quaint hatch]

Jump was to drastic for me and the game lost its draw

[tawdry flower]

That’s what kept me interested, honestly

[quaint hatch]

I just hope that doesn't happen for me with hades

[static wadi]

in hades u can CHOOSE difficulty

[tawdry flower]

0-10 ||heat is basically the same difficulty||

[quaint hatch]

I like the gradual increase
Also choice is probably the biggest factor
I like the feeling of overcoming a challenge that I picked myself

Yeah fair game
At the beginning you can still take the comfortable pact options

[brisk trail]

Until you take EM4 and it feels like 32 Heat.

[quaint hatch]

I'm still shying away from EM3 xD

[tawdry flower]

EM3 I only lost the first time when using my least favorite weapon

I find EM3 is actually easier than the normal fight for me

[fading gazelle]

[quaint hatch]

How come?
Motor theseus seemed kinda spoopy to me

[tawdry flower]

Listen, I really hate the spear man

[static wadi]

he has no shield

[fading gazelle]

That bull is pure hell

[static wadi]

and he doesnt attak u

[tawdry flower]

And the shield is just frustrating

[static wadi]

he just attack random spot

[fading gazelle]

If he wasn't fast enough already, ||he now has power armor and a goddamn rocket as well||

Man drifts harder than that one move with bald people

[static wadi]

just dash

[quaint hatch]

Idk the shield+spear makes him incredibly predictable

Gotta step on the gas

[woven cipher]

Does boons to bull rush on aegis shield from daedalus get affected by boons to attack too?

[fading gazelle]

As in?

You mean like the ranged shot? @woven cipher

[tawdry flower]

It’s predictable, but I’ve had times where he deflects 95% of my attacks.

[deep geyser]

@woven cipher Anything that would affect bullrush affects the shot and they are affected by attack boons

So you couls have Doom or Hangover on it

[woven cipher]

In my case I have minotaur shot, +500 damage

Ah great, so it'll be affected additively with my attack slot boon?

[brisk trail]

Yup.

[woven cipher]

Thanks 😁

[brisk trail]

I've been meaning to get Minotaur Shot and Sudden Rush and try that with Artemis.

[deep geyser]

Oh that ciould be fun lol

[woven cipher]

Also a bit of a harder question... The wiki say wall slam damage is dependent on monentum

[brisk trail]

Higher damage on knockback gives higher velocity.

[woven cipher]

I'm running a Poseidon slam build, I kinda observe that the enemy weight matters on how fast they get slammed

[brisk trail]

So Malphon punching people up will deal very little knockback, but a Minotaur Rush Charged Shot will splatter just about anything.

[woven cipher]

Does my proximity to enemy matter?

Ahhhh

[hardy escarp]

Guys which do I pick artemis or athena

this is my first boon

of the run

I'm using exagryph

[quaint hatch]

Ask in #h1-builds-and-combat
Also maybe not ask for every run
Just overall build strategy

[tawdry flower]

I’d go Artemis first

Getting the boons to shoot arrows on attack/special/cast is nice. And do to the high attack speed, crit chances going up is real nice

I also avoid recommending new players to that channel, @quaint hatch because it tends to have a high concentration of spoiler contents. I think it’s better to ask in new players

[quaint hatch]

Oh yeah I'm sry

Didn't know he was that new

[woven cipher]

I just noticed a 1.2k damage body slam... Wtf was that lol

[tawdry flower]

Where?

[drowsy finch]

Poseidon builds be like

[tawdry flower]

Yup

Increased knockback plus damage when slamming into a wall and you can make it explode for extra damage that also hurts nearby enemies

[brisk trail]

Me whenever I play:

🍷🍷🍷

[raven lava]

just had my best gun run
died to final boss but was still good

at least i shredded the styx chambers

poseidon cast plus poseidon wall slam plus poseidon legendary plus artemis (?) "second projectile" cast buff (that might have been a duo) equals shredding styx chambers with one cast

... no wait the duo was deadly reversal

mb

[static wadi]

@raven lava it is pos arty duo

[gusty slate]

Pos is pretty redic in Styx

[raven lava]

yeah

[fading gazelle]

redic?

[raven lava]

ridiculous :)

[fading gazelle]

Ooh

[static wadi]

in older time it was just artemis basic boon lol

[raven lava]

but now artemis is seeking cast

[fading gazelle]

RIP Dual shot 😔

[raven lava]

i died to ||final boss phase two|| after mistiming my greater artemis call 😔

[static wadi]

she always had it

[raven lava]

i'll get him next time

[fading gazelle]

Artemis cast always seeked

[brisk trail]

what do decorative themes do?

[fading gazelle]

Give a wild guess

[static wadi]

@brisk trail your boon panel decoration

[brisk trail]

ah ok

[void vigil]

@raven lava ||second phase|| is a spoiler in this channel, please spoiler tag your message accordingly!

[static wadi]

@raven lava did u saw Hunting blades?)

[raven lava]

i did not see hunting blades

[brisk trail]

I got the infernal theme but I dont see any change

[dawn linden]

At the end

When game be beat

[unkempt sleet]

It's most visible during victory screens

[dawn linden]

It changes that thingy

[unkempt sleet]

But you should see something when you check your boons during a run

[static wadi]

@raven lava try it

it awesome

but rare

[raven lava]

if i see it i'll try it

[static wadi]

Seeking ares cast

[raven lava]

wait

wait i did that one at one point

but i don't think it was a gun run

[static wadi]

lol who need a weapon when u have HB

[raven lava]

honestly hunting blades is a necessary upgrade if you want to use ares cast

turns it from useless to awesome

[static wadi]

@raven lava not really

[quaint hatch]

Haha dem Duo brrrr

[static wadi]

i tried it one of my run

found all ares cast boons

both t2 and leg

but didnt find duo

won anyway

[raven lava]

i guess if you're good

[static wadi]

cus ares CALL made redacted melt

[raven lava]

oh!

question

[fading gazelle]

Shoot

No need to ask to ask here

[raven lava]

so for styx minibosses i keep running into the same three
dire satyr cultist
dire giant vermin
and dire bother
is it bad rng that i'm not seeing the fourth or is there something else going on

[gusty slate]

bad rng yeah

[fading gazelle]

There is a fourth yes, but I think that's just bad rng

[gusty slate]

Although the snek statue doesn't pop up that often for me...

[raven lava]

it's more annoying because of two things

1. last miniboss i need for the prophecy
2. i literally ran into ||tiny vermin|| once and still haven't met the last one

[gusty slate]

It's scared of you that's the reason

Why are you so scary?

Just gotta keep trying I guess, but that 4th one really might have a lower chance? I have ~200 hours have seen that one the least. Anecdotal evidence doesn't mean much but

[raven lava]

figures

[gusty slate]

[brisk trail]

What's more annoying than bad RNG is the fact that seeds are pre-generated before entering the room

I want to reroll my goddamn seed and the game won't let me

[gusty slate]

Isn't there the 'cast before entering another room' trick?