h1-discussion

[blazing narwhal]

gold theseus feels like a loud-mouthed boss variant of the bother enemy in styx temple

[brisk trail]

I've only tried ||Extreme Measures 1||, yet to apply it to other bosses, how hard is it with ||Lernie and Theseus+Asterius with XM on||?

[pulsar maple]

gets much harder

[brisk trail]

At first boss, I thought I had to deal with ||3 health bars, but apparently only killing one of them and two will disappear||

[pulsar maple]

||Lernie gets a tad harder, Theseus+Asterius gets rough as hell||

I mean ofc once you figure out the patterns it's like

it's just harder versions, not actually game-changing

[brisk trail]

I see.

[pulsar maple]

I keep ||extreme measures|| on at all times now because the game is so much better with it

like especially the 3rd one, it gets so good

[tribal glade]

i just unlocked ||aspect of zeus|| with the shield but i remember some talk about it not being great/broken? can someone let me know before i end up playing in hard mode accidentally? lol

[floral shore]

Unupgraded Zeus Aspect is not all that great, really. Should still work but maybe invest the Titan Blood into something else first if you can't max it out and still have the opportunity to back out?

[tribal glade]

yeah ok i can certainly quit and come back before auto-save kicks in

i'll unlock something else on something else in that case lol

is the ||aspect of chaos|| good on the shield? looks like a good bonus to have

im still pretty new (if you cant tell) and titans blood is still a scarce resource, lol

[sharp fossil]

chaos is flat out the best shield for survivability, and competes with the best overall

some people don’t like it now because it got nerfed recently, but honestly the nerf was fair and it’s still very good

that said, it doesn’t really come into its own until it’s maxed or close to it

[tribal glade]

ok ty 🙂

[plain cloak]

I wish it easily showed which things on the left are boons, which are levelable (for poms) and which have rarities (for the other buff from the muse)

[blazing narwhal]

I wish it easily showed which things on the left are boons, which are levelable (for poms) and which have rarities (for the other buff from the muse)
this reminds me, i always hoped that the boons tab would pause the game

[lofty oracle]

Hi, do we have any information about if Hades' vinyl will be available in the Black Screen Records store, for EU buyers ?

[sharp fossil]

I wish it easily showed which things on the left are boons, which are levelable (for poms) and which have rarities (for the other buff from the muse)
@plain cloak there was a suggestion that they mark all them with “lvl 1” which i kinda hoped they’d do

it’s something you get a feel for after a while, but it’s kind of annoying when you’re just starting out

[dry arch]

TFW you give up death defiances for bug reports

[plain cloak]

I think the text for Flurry Jab is bugged, it says "but you cannot spin attack" but it should read "and you don't have to rapidly click to attack anymore!" :p

[round wraith]

how strong is rama?

any recommended boons?

thinking dio for special

[odd thorn]

I guess this is the place for bug reports these days since #hades-feedback is closed? Super minor, but the text for Ravenous Will says "While you have no bloodstones, take 10% less damage and deal more." But that's only true for the base level boon - higher rarity boons confer a higher percentage bonus at a bonus of 10% per boon rarity NAB, I can't read. Words are neat

[floral shore]

I think the text is correct. You take 10% less damage regardless of rarity, and deal 10-30% more depending on rarity.

[odd thorn]

Oh, that makes sense. I think you're right. Thanks!

[unkempt nacelle]

Do you think they will add "personal liability" to normal mode or should i just go ahead and make a hell mode save?

[unkempt sleet]

They probably won't but you're not missing much

[round wraith]

is the meta to just not use attack with rama?

[coral verge]

Rama is based around using the chunky attack

the special does pitiful damage

[unkempt nacelle]

@unkempt sleet mhh okay, i might make one some day then but for now ill stay on normal 🙂

[dry arch]

@round wraith its flavor, im a bow fan but I dont really like it

[round wraith]

I just cleared tartarus with exclusively the special

seems really good

what's a good attack boon? artemis?

[granite ether]

weapon and aspect (if applicable)?

[round wraith]

||rama||

[blazing narwhal]

welp

[round wraith]

goin with poseidon cuz I seen zues

[granite ether]

ahh, absolutely no idea, also please spoiler tag 4th aspects

[blazing narwhal]

if the build goes with insane luck

or you're comfortable with kiting the hell out of it

[coral verge]

any boon with high attack % works fine

[blazing narwhal]

also ares

[round wraith]

i got 4 duo boons last run lol

[blazing narwhal]

doom special and ||shared suffering|| feels amazing

[round wraith]

does that need to be spoilered? it's in the boons list

[unkempt nacelle]

if i charm one of those crystals that make enemies invulnarable...do they buff me? i just tried it randomly but couldnt get them to cast it, now im curious

[novel wasp]

no they dont

[plain cloak]

OMFG trying to use reflect with sword makes me just want to stand in lava and end this run

[unkempt nacelle]

😦

[round wraith]

well do you need to reflect with sword?

[unkempt sleet]

Deflect on sword should only beca thing for the special

If you put it on attack you're playing dangerously or using 4th sword

[granite ether]

@dry arch ||The Charon fight is spoilers|| so spoiler tags please

[blazing narwhal]

does that need to be spoilered? it's in the boons list
idk, but i feel like spoiler tagging anything that requires considerable progression to unlock is suitable unless in story and spoilers channel

[plain cloak]

well do you need to reflect with sword?
@round wraith why do you ask?

[unkempt sleet]

Duos are in the boons list of a god

I don't think they're a spoiler

[round wraith]

cuz you're complaining about it @plain cloak

[blazing narwhal]

OMFG trying to use reflect with sword makes me just want to stand in lava and end this run
imagin yourself playing baseball

I, for one, suck at playing baseball, so i can never deflect with sword

[plain cloak]

I don't know if I need to but why don't you give me both responses

[blazing narwhal]

I don't think they're a spoiler
Nah i was talking about ||rama|| and ||charon fight||

[dry arch]

1.0 is spoiler, that is not

[granite ether]

this channel explicitly states no spoilers mate

for which ||Rama|| and ||the Charon fight|| are

anything including and past the first redacted clear is spoilers in this channel

there's a reason for the #h1-story-discussion channel existing ^_^

[dry arch]

Whats the point of this channel then?

[granite ether]

For general discussion of Hades.

[blazing narwhal]

discussing stuff before then and general aspects of the game

[wind wedge]

I mean, the channel description does say this 😉

[granite ether]

it surely does ^_^

it even explicitly asks for No spoilers too

[dry arch]

and makes no mention what is a spoiler and what is not lol

[round wraith]

maybe it's not the meta but poseidon on ||rama|| attack seems really good

use special 90% of the time and attack for keep away

[granite ether]

I dunno what to tell you mate, everything including final boss and first clear onwards seems like common sense spoiler territory to me (especially stuff related to the main storyline)

[dry arch]

...

thats one of the dumbest sense of reasoning I've heard. I get your point, but your argument is just awful

[wind wedge]

Also, if you see "no spoilers", it seems reasonable to... ask what counts as a spoiler, rather than just saying stuff randomly that's v late game content.

[round wraith]

lol why are you trying to like, lawyer yourself into being allowed to spoiler?

[dry arch]

nah, im just asking for a point, that was not. I get what he is saying, im just pointing out that going by that logic story-and-spoilers says what is spoiler, this says no spoiler, so if you go by that logic, it makes sense

[granite ether]

they*

[dry arch]

I get @granite ether has a point, its in the title, and everyone can see it, including me

[round wraith]

well ya a note about what spoilers are is a good idea

[granite ether]

I don't understand why you're arguing then, you've been asked to spoiler tag something and that's that

[round wraith]

well, I don't want to spoil things

[granite ether]

you're fine Bep

[round wraith]

people can see things I say before i'm told to spoiler tag them

[granite ether]

specifically referring to MZ

[round wraith]

so a pin is prob a good idea

[dry arch]

erm.. I have no problem spoiler taging anything, just asking for clarification

[granite ether]

and I did
I said "anything including and past the first redacted clear is spoilers in this channel" the ||Charon fight|| clearly falls under what is spoilers in that case

brought that up with the rest of the mods @round wraith as it is a good idea :3

[dry arch]

I think you should add it to the channel description then, because if you'd read from that that there is no spoilers here you hop into story-and-spoilers where everything 1.0 is spoiler

kind of you know, imply from that

thank you @round wraith

I like his idea too

[granite ether]

that channel asks to spoiler tag 1.0 end game content (which that portion will probably be removed after some time anyways)

[dry arch]

ah then I got nothing

[mortal dawn]

Any idea why raising ||heat|| is not giving me new bounties? I've done up to 20 ||heat|| on Chiron and raising it to 21 or anything higher yields no bounties

[granite ether]

||bounties stop at 20 heat, 25 for hell mode||

[mortal dawn]

What's|| hell mode||?

[wind wedge]

Also, isn't ||heat|| a spoiler in this channel, ironically, given the discussion 30 seconds ago ? 😉

[granite ether]

I tend to over spoiler tag here and #h1-for-new-players

[dry arch]

😂

[wind wedge]

I don't think hell mode is a spoiler though, surely, since it can be enabled from the start.

[dry arch]

Definitely hope that Beps idea goes through

[granite ether]

hell mode, essentially hard mode - ||pact of punishment|| is available from the start with ||1 rank in Hard Labour, Lasting Consequences, 2 other pact conditions I don't recall off the top of my head and Personal Liability (no bubble of i frames when taking massive damage) are permanently on||

@mortal dawn

[dry arch]

Though I do find, there is very little general discussion you can do with no spoilers and spoilers go against the description. But ah, what do I know, don't envy the mods for this one :D, good luck Agg

[zinc dew]

i finished all the other achievements but still can't trigger the prophesy to free Achilles

[coral verge]

RNG chat, I finished ||epilogue|| but am still stuck at Achilles

[zinc dew]

idk why all the pre should have been done

and also the Aphrodite's lock still unlocked

[coral verge]

try https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2232655399 on how to unlock hearts

[bright pine]

Probably a broken record here... but will you plan on adding some more gods? If so.. may I volunteer my voice as a possible choice for Hestia who might make an epic HP boon goddess 😛 I may or my not be obsessed with this game and the mythos in general. I know the game is probably more or less complete and wont get new adds buuuut a girl can hope xD

[granite ether]

from the #hades-faq

Now that Early Access is over, what's next?
Once we're sure our v1.0 launch has settled, our small team will be taking a break to recharge, and plan what's next. We'll be excited to say more about what's in store for us just as soon as we're ready.

[unkempt sleet]

You may want to email them directly for job proposals

[bright pine]

You may want to email them directly for job proposals
@unkempt sleet ooooh I shall!

[plush chasm]

Hey community, does anyone know what the themes are for? they are very expensive and i bought one but saw no difference

[unkempt sleet]

They change your in run UI. You can see samples in #h1-victory-boasting

[fading gazelle]

They change up the in-game UI, particularly the victory screen

[plush chasm]

oh i see thanks !

[severe flare]

music theme?

I just visit YouTube for all the music

I don't bother downloading

consider YouTube is a cloud drive

[unkempt sleet]

No it's a UI theme

[cyan aspen]

is there a better way to get large amount of gems for the cosmetic upgrades aside from just farming?

[void vigil]

completing certain prophecies if you havent already

[tough heart]

Anyone else had a problem with achievements not unlocking?

[blazing narwhal]

Oh

big question

[tough heart]

I only got the achievement for beating the game after my second clear, and I've beat Thanatos by over 15 twice now and still don't have the achievement

[blazing narwhal]

Does hades load resources with each room instances?

i have like 3gb left in my ssd, so i installed hades on hdd. My laptop is extra potato, so if running the game on ssd helps I'd definitely reinstall the game.

I suspect this might be why the framerate gets nuked every time I enter a new chamber, but I just wanted to be sure.

[tough heart]

^ this may be better asked in tech fixes

I just asked my question there also, in case it's a bug

[wraith jasper]

"Well Stocked" isn't unlocking for me, so I can vouch for some wonkiness with cheevos

[tough heart]

Hmm, annoying. Oh well.

@blazing narwhal and i meant tech-support

[blazing narwhal]

ah

thx

[brisk trail]

was the shield nerfed?

[unkempt sleet]

Which one

[brisk trail]

zagreus aspect

[unkempt sleet]

Chaos shield was nerfed slightly

[brisk trail]

^

[unkempt sleet]

No Zag shield wasn't touched IIRC

[brisk trail]

chaos shield. my bad

[unkempt sleet]

Yeah the extra shields are now different

[brisk trail]

okay. that makes sense. last I played was before they finished the weapon trees.

the chaos shield was hella OP

[cyan aspen]

@void vigil unfortunately I finished all the prophecies. There’s this one upgrade for 10k gems tho lol

Wish there was a way to trade ambrosia / titan blood back into gems in large quantities

[cloud adder]

Hewwo

[unkempt sleet]

If you want more gems there's a contractor upgrade that lets bosses drop gems

[cyan aspen]

I already have that too. But even with good rng and getting troves, chaos multiplier for gems, I get maybe 200-300 gems per run

[upper crown]

yeah theres limiteds but that's not really the same thing

[unkempt sleet]

I don't think there are better gem farms atm

[upper crown]

just hit up your good buddy chaos and run 0 heat or something

[void vigil]

the gem grind is slow going, i need about 2500 more to get everything there is with gems :< so close yet so far

[cyan aspen]

I think to buy the rest of the items in the contractor sheet, I need 30k gems

[unkempt sleet]

Alma, you mean so far and yet so far

[void vigil]

its one more thing, just the ||deathly theme||

SO close

[carmine ravine]

use chaos multiplier, poseidon boon, sisyphus support and darker thirst to maximize gem and darkness gain

[unkempt sleet]

I don't think ||Bouldy|| drops gems, only gold and darkness

[carmine ravine]

it drops some gems

[unkempt sleet]

I guess I never noticed

[void vigil]

nope, it does not

[brisk trail]

there is also the occasional titan blood trade for 200 gems from the broker

[carmine ravine]

huh guess im wrong then

[upper crown]

yeah it's just gold and darkness

and the healing

[frank wind]

not sure why it hasnt lowwed me to get anything yet lol

[upper crown]

beaten as in credits or

[rotund sphinx]

Uh spoiler tag that

[frank wind]

woops

dont know how to spoiler

so deleted quick

[brisk trail]

^big woopsie

[unkempt sleet]

|| on both sides of what you want to make a spoiler

[carmine ravine]

have u unlock at least 5 other aspect? @frank wind

[frank wind]

aspects for each weapon

and uh idk how to say much without being too spoilery

||but its the first ending||

||not the other one||

[cyan aspen]

Just say it with spoiler tags

[frank wind]

idk how 😅

[carmine ravine]

```just do || this || ````

[upper crown]

||stuff||

[carmine ravine]

to spoiler tag

[rotund sphinx]

|| like this ||

[frank wind]

ty

[rotund sphinx]

The dialouge is rng btw

[frank wind]

||when persephone comes home||

[upper crown]

okay yeah that should be fine then

[carmine ravine]

the ltrigger should come from nyx iirc

[frank wind]

is it possible that if i talk to petro too much itll trigger ||achilles leaving||

before that

[upper crown]

that doesn't matter

[frank wind]

ahh wasnt sure if that would make it more annoying to get

[carmine ravine]

||he only visiting sometimes||

[frank wind]

ahhh kk

[vast vector]

Can anyone tell me, which command I have to use in the epic launcher, to change the language to English? Thanks

[frank wind]

so i just gotta keep doing give ups till i hopefully get the dialogue?

[carmine ravine]

even ||persephone|| will ||leave after the feast||

[rotund sphinx]

Can anyone tell me, which command I have to use in the epic launcher, to change the language to English? Thanks
No idea sorry

[frank wind]

oo hmm and the companion dialogue still not having come yet also rng based?

bc i gave them the stuff

[carmine ravine]

there is like priority list but kinda rng too i guess

[frank wind]

ahh, its unfortunate having gotten so far into the game and still not having gotten some of that stuff yet, the early win streaks really seem to mess it up

because i heard it prioritizes story text

ty tho ^^

[carmine ravine]

i mean 33 runs isnt that much i guess?

[frank wind]

i mean yee, but ive completed like 15 clears, gotten around half the quests and nearly all the mirror done

story content is nearly over i imagine so seemed a bit far, but i guess people pre release have a signiiiiiifiicantly larger amount of runs

[carmine ravine]

probably yeah, the more replayability value the better i guess

[wind wedge]

Also depends on what you mean by story - the side story content can't be all done for you ,surely?

[frank wind]

side story as in?

i meant main, as far as side stuff goes im guessing im kinda near done outside of maxing everything out

[wind wedge]

Like the sisyphus, orpheus, achilles plots

that kind of thing

[frank wind]

yup

basically done all of them just waiting on text, which still hasnt come

[wind wedge]

Did I misread that you have 33 runs , then?

[frank wind]

nope, i have 33 runs

[upper crown]

that sounds like a low number

[wind wedge]

That seems super low to have completed all of the side quests

[frank wind]

when i say basically done their lines i mean to say ||i have given them all the nectar that i can until they give me the text||

[rotund sphinx]

Ahhhh

[wind wedge]

Right, so you haven't

[carmine ravine]

so u havent done their prophecies

[frank wind]

not until they give it to me, still havent yet, ive gotten || the medusa contractor quest but still not the job in the shop||

[wind wedge]

Okay, so you have tons of stuff left to work on

[rotund sphinx]

Ah regarding dusa

U just need to keep doing works

Theres no specific one

[frank wind]

so far im just letting myself die until achilles finally lets me get what i was talking about earlier

[wind wedge]

Yeah, just fix up the lounge like she asks

[upper crown]

isnt it that specific area tho

[rotund sphinx]

Ye lounge only

[hidden musk]

Hey guys, new to the channel here. I just wanted to provide some feedback regarding some minor design decisions. Is there still a channel or place to do so? Since Feedback seems to be now closed. Thanks!

[frank wind]

ill clear the lounge mostly out then and see if she does ^^

[rotund sphinx]

I mean to be fair i did like so much lounge work before i finally completed the prophecy

[wind wedge]

I made it hard for myself and decided to buy expensive things first

so, yeah 🙂

[carmine ravine]

i endded up buying the crystal skull for the lounge for the prophecy

[rotund sphinx]

Hey guys, new to the channel here. I just wanted to provide some feedback regarding some minor design decisions. Is there still a channel or place to do so? Since Feedback seems to be now closed. Thanks!

Idk about that sorry

I saw on the wiki that u have to do about 20 but i wasnt keeping track

[tame sigil]

are there any plans for them to release future content?

[stray robin]

I dont think so unfortunately

not really Supergiant's thing to do dlc

I would insta buy it though

hades is my game of the century

[tame sigil]

same here

[zealous atlas]

I hope so! There is so much they could use for dlc or expiations. I'd buy the hell out of it

[tame sigil]

wonderful wonderful game

[stray robin]

same style but in olympus, besting the gods that helped you in this game :D

[zealous atlas]

They could use other gods like Apollo( who has been name dropped)

[ornate rampart]

Please please please we need Apollo in this game

• the way the story unfolds, ||persephone saying that she needs time to think about what to do next, it feels like there's definitely going to be a future resolution of this tense situation the game finishes in and apollo could definitely be a key part in that||

[blazing narwhal]

also we need to see apollo and his real chariot skills, not theseus' annoying tau-lambda

[sharp fossil]

nah we need hestia

i just wanna set fire to something

[upper crown]

dlc: finally get theseus to stop being wrong about things

[ornate rampart]

we need them all haha but hestia is kind of is in this game

[blazing narwhal]

lol

[sharp fossil]

barely

[ornate rampart]

• demeter basically says "hera and hestia don't care about you they won't come"

[sharp fossil]

and i can’t even set fire to things with hestia rail

[ornate rampart]

but no one EVER speak about apollo

[sharp fossil]

and demeter is never wrong about anything

[upper crown]

tbf she just didnt want to believe it

[sharp fossil]

so many fireplaces in this game and no hestia

just seems wrong

true lol

[ornate rampart]

no hephaistos as well

[sharp fossil]

yeh ngl i kinda want him also

what a legend

[blazing narwhal]

imagine hephaestos just barging in and snatching the hammer from zag's hand

"Godling, you don't even come close to handling this masterful tool"

[fierce berry]

Can I use darkness for anything once maxing out the mirror?

[coral verge]

||vanity|| requires a LLLLOOOOTTTT of Darkness, more than you can ever farm without grinding

[unkempt nacelle]

I really hope they are going to continue with this game / this game universe, but it dont seem that supergiant really does sequels or DLCs 😦

[brisk trail]

I think the game starts to 'read' my behavior on ||Styx||. 😅 Usually go after tunnels without skull symbols, can already get the item at 2nd or 3rd tunnel, but the last two runs, it's either 4th or 5th and already lose quite an amount of lives. 😩 😮

[shadow fable]

Just go hard one first

But in reality some normal can be harder then elite rooms

[high island]

The miniboss chambers are more predictable and usually faster.

[brisk trail]

@high island Like, only 3rd doors in?

[brazen idol]

I usually go for one of the elite ones first, then all the normal ones and the second elite one last.

[radiant harbor]

For the "Day-or-Night Trader" (trade 20 times with the Wretched Broker) do you have to trade 20 different instances (i.e. 20 different runs) or simply 20x trades, even in one instance

it's the final achivement i have left, and i'm a bit confused. I'm aware it's not retroactive

[wind wedge]

I think it's just 20 trades

I got it in the middle of a bunch of gem->key trades

[brisk trail]

@radiant harbor I think you can trade many times at one instance and they still count. I got mine few days ago

@wind wedge yea, gem>key and keys>nectar are the easiest ones

[wind wedge]

That's what I was in the middle of yeah (gem->key->nectar) because relationship unlocks are the True Point of Hades 😉

[tame sigil]

what are the best boons and hammers for ||exagraph|| last weapon i need to do a run on for that juicy ||titan blood||

its the ||admantant rail||

[coral verge]

Zeus

[tame sigil]

what about hammers?

[crude sorrel]

yo, does boiling blood stack?

[granite ether]

It doesn't

[radiant harbor]

i'm currently in a run with that aspect, got Triple Bomb (3x special) plus Doom, very nice @tame sigil basically you create a huge minefield of doom that explodes enemies

[crude sorrel]

thx

[tame sigil]

i'm currently in a run with that aspect, got Triple Bomb (3x special) plus Doom, very nice @tame sigil basically you create a huge minefield of doom that explodes enemies
@radiant harbor alright then il give that a try so special with ares and zeus on attack

any other hammer upgrade other than 3x special i should be looking for?

[fathom tinsel]

I found what I think is an error and the feedback forum is closed (just missed it I think), so I’ll put it here. The Dionysus boon Premium Vintage does not appear to count for the mirror talent Family Favorite.

[radiant harbor]

@wind wedge @brisk trail are you 100% sure that's how it works? i just traded well over 40x gems -> keys, both with the menu open the entire time and closing the menu after each trade. still no achievement

[gusty slate]

Some things need to be saved before achiev can work. So walking into bedroom can fix that sometimes

Like the Cerberus pets achieve

[drifting meteor]

question, how do you forge a bond with hypnos and cerberus?

theyre the last 2 i need and i cant figure it out

[gusty slate]

Cerb is ||pet|| until he believes you love him a lot, as for Hypno... || is it the autograph favour? ||

[drifting meteor]

||autograph favor?||

[gusty slate]

The Hypno favour ||autograph need to die to Asterius some I think and then Hypno is like "OMG THE BULL OF MINOS?"||

[drifting meteor]

welp there goes my streak

[opaque nexus]

Reminder that additive damage ups are stinky

[gusty slate]

Gotta die to ||Asterius miniboss? or Asterius/Theseus some I don't remember the exact order||

[opaque nexus]

Looking at you, urge to kill

[radiant harbor]

yay https://i.imgur.com/iYnin4u.png

[opaque nexus]

I’m procrastinating on cheevo hunting

I’d imagine ||guan yu|| is the best way to get the pierced butterfly achievement

[gusty slate]

I'm too lazy to cheevo hunt

[scenic path]

20 trades is 20 ambrosia into titan blood nice

[opaque nexus]

I usually don’t

[mellow vault]

Supergiant, I just wanna say congrats. After playing this game non-stop for two years, I’m so happy to see it get the clout it deserves. It’s like watching a local band you really like hit the big times. Congrats and bless you all

[elfin haven]

congratz supergiant GOTY from jim sterling

[brisk trail]

claps furiously

YOU! DESERVE! IT!

[elfin haven]

this game beats a triple A game easily to be honest.

[brisk trail]

I started playing this game on 24 de September, but already voted it for GOTY and other categories too. Well alternating between Hades and Ghost of Tsushima.

This game deserves all the recognitions it can get.

[radiant harbor]

considering #hades-feedback is archived, not sure where to post this rather curious occurance https://i.imgur.com/Iwmmijh.jpeg

[gusty slate]

F10 or #h1-tech-support if on Switch

That has happened before x.x

[radiant harbor]

i used sisyphus call and the boulder fell during a transition

[elfin haven]

Soooo... Hades 2 when?

[brisk trail]

@elfin haven will Zagreus be crossing into the path of a certain exclusively Sony-owned murderous Spartan demigod during his early days of rampage throughout the entire Greek pantheon? 🤔

[elfin haven]

would be cool if the gods betray him and he beats them all down

[high island]

The Master Chief?

[dim stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxsPPN6j6ps Jim Sterlings review, basically "Game of the Year", "among my Favorite games of all time"

[dusk mantle]

Finally !! beat the final boss using sword (nemesis!)

yay!

[urban heron]

I saw that, super rare to see jim happy in general, but this hyped?

[vapid narwhal]

it's a game I'd pay $60 for

[dim stratus]

congrats @dusk mantle I actually find the sword one of the harder weapons since it puts you in a lot of close, dangerous, combat.

[dusk mantle]

yeah, compared to sword, shield feels like easy mode.

[dim stratus]

I like the bow, when you just keep away from anything that hurts, period :P

[dusk mantle]

btw getting extra dash

or sturdy + 100% speed after dash (hermes) really really helps

when using melee weapons like fist or sword

[brisk trail]

The Master Chief?
@high island I don't think he's owned by Sony, chief.

I like the bow, when you just keep away from anything that hurts, period :P
@dim stratus ||Aspect of Chiron|| rekts all

@dusk mantle I'd go for Sturdy+speed, except when I'm using Zeus, Athena or Ares' dash, then extra dash always good

[gusty slate]

Gotta go fast though

[dusk mantle]

For me, the extra dash really helps in the last boss fight

[idle ingot]

Tried summoning Thanatos during a battle in the temple of Styx and it said “summon not available” is there a reason for that I missed somewhere?

[dim stratus]

@brisk trail yes, got to play with it last round, and I picked an upgrade that made my chargup longer, but deal more damage.. hillarious.

[gusty slate]

Must've been too busy up there... did you have charges still?

[idle ingot]

I had 2 charges

[radiant harbor]

@idle ingot summoning someone to beat up ||their boss|| is a harsh thing to ask of them. answer: ||you unlock the ability to do so later||

[idle ingot]

It wasn’t vs hades. It wasn’t even a mini boss. It was just a chamber of rats and satyrs

[gusty slate]

Should work on normal styx, weird....

Final boss is spoiers

[brisk trail]

TIL it can get enabled later, I thought ||they're only good for non-final bosses||

[idle ingot]

Naw. I use it on Lernie and the achampions all the time

[radiant harbor]

@brisk trail it was added in the most recent patch

[dusk mantle]

I never remember to use the damn summon :/

[gusty slate]

Although, for those ||Bouldy and Skelly works before the unlock||

[dusk mantle]

gotta start using it sometime

[gusty slate]

Might need to report a bug on that Thanatos styx

lemme do a quick run and test... was it one of the end styx rooms?

[dusk mantle]

Is || meg|| summon good ? I don't have anything else

[gusty slate]

They all help

[idle ingot]

Will do. Wasn’t sure if it was a big or not

[brisk trail]

I mostly ||using it against Champions and against that particular pesky room with armored butterfly||

[opaque nexus]

||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392070250511728653/761975456038649876/unknown.png || do I do it

[radiant harbor]

@dusk mantle all summons are great, just different situations they excell at

[dusk mantle]

cool

[brisk trail]

@dusk mantle very good, I used ||her summon|| all the time. Well, since hers is the only one out of two I currently have LOL

[gusty slate]

They all help in a pinch

Who doesn't like extra damage/support

But the greatest aspect is the emotional support

[radiant harbor]

my favourite one i run with 99% of the time is ||bouldy, the extra gold/health is never unwelcome||

[gusty slate]

Zag not alone

[dusk mantle]

I have 4 amrbosia and 2 titan blood but I want to max out aspects of some weapons first. Or do people use ambrosia for other things?

[gusty slate]

Ambrosia is good for building bonds

Well required to do so lol

When you need Ambrosia you'll start needing lots

[dusk mantle]

I have not got a chance to use it except to gift || meg ||

no other situation has arisen so far where I can gift it. but I guess I need to progress more then.

[radiant harbor]

ambrosia is used for bonds with characters & ||upgrading summons||, the latter requiring quite a lot of it

[gusty slate]

Some bonds can take a bit too

[dusk mantle]

I see. I think I will use it now for upgrading some aspects I like.

[gusty slate]

The last heart on a bond tends to be locked by a favour/rng dialogue so gotta do that before you can gift

[dusk mantle]

By trading it for Titan blood

[gusty slate]

But trading off a few Ambrosia will probably be fine

[dusk mantle]

I will always keep at least 1

so I dont miss the gift

[gusty slate]

My only issue with Ambrosia is that it's not as plentiful as diamond and titan blood imo

[brisk trail]

Guess that's the point

[dusk mantle]

Ambrosia and Titan blood are both very hard to farm

hm, actually maybe not.

you do get 1 titan blood for beating the first boss

[radiant harbor]

you dont really need as much ambrosia as diamonds/titan blood

[dusk mantle]

so even if you can't beat the final boss, you can technically still get titan blood

[gusty slate]

Ambrosia are prophecies, broker, bounties if I recall. The Styx shop has the other 2 in addition

[radiant harbor]

and once you git gud(tm) you can farm diamonds/titan bloods by doing greedy gold runs & buying it out in the shop

[dusk mantle]

I feel that will take forever lol

[gusty slate]

But once you beat final boss you'll be able to grind moar

[dusk mantle]

the conversion rate between gemstone/key/nectar/diamond is steep lol

[gusty slate]

15 key for 1 titan blood is the dream

[dusk mantle]

that would be too much xD

[gusty slate]

Yeah, but eventually you'll start having excess of the standard resouces

[dusk mantle]

i hope so.

[gusty slate]

Just keep at it and enjoy the game, you got this 👍

[brisk trail]

and once you git gud(tm) you can farm diamonds/titan bloods by doing greedy gold runs & buying it out in the shop
@radiant harbor I'm even getting the not-so-rare run now where I can buy the diamond or titan blood in the final shop and still get everything else because the heat is high enough

[dusk mantle]

ive only done 3 heat with shield successfully lol

how the hell people do like 50 heat .. is just insane.

[brisk trail]

I'm at heat 10-15 now and I haven't hit the ceiling yet where it's usually taking my everything to beat the final boss so I have resources to spare

[gusty slate]

Eh, just play at your own pace, don't worry about others

[dusk mantle]

sure, thats what i do

[radiant harbor]

there's not exactly a lot of people doing 50 heat :p

[subtle cobalt]

What is supergiants best game besides hades in your opinion?

[dusk mantle]

true, but even 30 heat is impressive imo.

@subtle cobalt ive only played Bastion and it was lit.

[cloud adder]

I`m really tempted to just do a Pathfinder or D&D module of hades

[brisk trail]

How does the decor work exactly? I see multiple color options for different price for this same location. Do they get overwritten? Or can you buy them and swap between them, or all all decorations visible at the same time?

Best I can do currently is only 7 heat >_>

[gusty slate]

I personally did all the bounties up to 19 heat, then I just sit around 0-15 heat because I can't be motivated to go higher lul

[coral verge]

same slot deco gets replaced

[brisk trail]

How does the decor work exactly? I see multiple color options for different price for this same location. Do they get overwritten? Or can you buy them and swap between them, or all all decorations visible at the same time?
@brisk trail you can swap once you bought them

Do you guys altering the heat up and down, or going from lowest to highest with each passing runs?

[dusk mantle]

Is there any point in spending gemstones for decor? I thought it was purely cosmetic.

[gusty slate]

Lounge has relevance

Certain other items do have function also

Scrying pool is one example

[dusk mantle]

Oh right, i did get that one

[brisk trail]

also dialogue gets unlocked by some items

[radiant harbor]

@dusk mantle if you havent obtained it yet, there's a minor prophecy to renovate 30 things

[brisk trail]

Yeah, like ||aquarium|| on Lounge, can be used to check how many fishes you've caught so far

[gusty slate]

I personally love the bats

Really get to admire my work

[dusk mantle]

@radiant harbor is there one for 50 as well?

[gusty slate]

Don't think so

[dusk mantle]

okay

[gusty slate]

but otherwise the cosmetics are there for your house decor sim

and gem sinks

If you're interested in dialogue, there are some pieces tied to the cosmetics

[dusk mantle]

oh, nice. good to know

[gusty slate]

I mean who doesn't want to give Hypnos and Cerb ||each a nice bed!||

[radiant harbor]

well

Hades?

[gusty slate]

Smashes desk "What do you want boy"

[hushed coral]

Hey, question about the new patch and the true ending to anyone who has completed a run on it: ||does the game still show the common death animations after completing a run or has that been changed?||

[sharp fossil]

i haven’t had a chance to do a run yet, but i wouldn’t get your hopes up

it wasn’t in the patch notes

[hushed coral]

Yeah I know, but did say this "+ Minor changes and improvements to various narrative events" so I'm hoping. Maybe they wouldn't want to reference it directly. Shall see. A very popular feedback, from what I've seen

[brisk trail]

LOL Darker Thirst never triggered on Twin Fists, been going back and forth between sword, shield, bow

[flat vapor]

keep playing

[random ermine]

@vale drift Jim Sterling covered Hades:

https://youtu.be/xxsPPN6j6ps

"Hades is excellent. Seriously very excellent. A level of excellent that has quickly seen it become one of my favorite games ever.

Top notch combat, a terrific blend of RPG and roguelike qualities, amazing writing, graphics, and music. Hades' mythological tale of family conflict is just fantastic.

Easily Supergiant's best work, to the point where I really don't have a bad thing to say about it. And that's that! "

[smoky halo]

do you need ||to catch every fish for poseidon's favor? I'm missing one (chaos legendary)||

[brisk trail]

I'm starting to like Dionysus and Hangover boons. Those procs drain enemies like crazy on later regions. Beside, he's one of the coolest gods in-game, got that huge dude bro energy. lmao

[sharp fossil]

do you need ||to catch every fish for poseidon's favor? I'm missing one (chaos legendary)||
@smoky halo no you don’t

[smoky halo]

Dang what the heck, then. I've finished ~20 runs including em4 and all that, tons of chances to proc it but all I get is standard poseidon lines

[sharp fossil]

dunno what the prerequisites are tbh, but ||i haven’t caught that fish either and i’ve got his favour||

oof

might just be rng? sometimes it’s harsh

[brisk trail]

I've never caught other Chaos fishes except the first/common one...

RNG is pain in the arse sometimes

[smoky halo]

honestly getting the rare fish is real hard

I usually only get them when there's already been 3 bobs so I can react faster

[brisk trail]

I've caught more Seamares than whatever legendary fishes of other regions. 😦

I usually only get them when there's already been 3 bobs so I can react faster
@smoky halo one little trick that really helped me is not watch at the bobbing thing but at a visually quiet space above it

[coral verge]

just need to get used to the timing

[brisk trail]

watch for the white flash

ignore everything else

then it becomes relatively easy

[coral verge]

the bop goes down slightly faster/less time if it's a catch

[brisk trail]

Elysium might still be a bit tricky because everything there is so bright

[fallen violet]

Got perfect catch

lets go

First one

[smoky halo]

is there a way to tell when you get it?

[coral verge]

it'll say Perfect Catch besides the fish name

[smoky halo]

oh huh, never seen that

[coral verge]

yeah it's not explained ingame

[fallen violet]

I dont know how I did it

I saw the bob go down

and mashed e so fast

[flat vapor]

perfect catch is catching within .32 seconds btw

[fallen violet]

DANG

MY REACTION TIME

[smoky halo]

it's weird because usually my reaction time is better than that

[sharp fossil]

so’s mine lol

[fallen violet]

actual gamer

[brisk trail]

it's weird because usually my reaction time is better than that
@smoky halo try doing what I told you

[sharp fossil]

and i can’t get perfect catches reliably

[smoky halo]

320ms isn't to hard to hit when you're expecting a thing

[brisk trail]

it really helps

[smoky halo]

will do

[coral verge]

just get used to the timing, the bops are all the same time but if it's a catch then the timing's shorter

so if it takes long then it's not a catch and you prepare for the next bop

[brisk trail]

the timing always felt noisy to me

also, the catch can happen on the first bop

[tired marsh]

Hello everyone, anyone know how to get the keyboard and mouse command prompts back, friend was using an xbox controller and now all the prompts are stuck on xbox,

Even the options have xbox even though I am using the keyboard and mouse.

[sharp fossil]

Have you tried restarting the game?

[brisk trail]

huh my dumbass just realize Arthur's aura nulify some traps

[tired marsh]

Yeah, restarted the game, removed the controller, even restarted the pc

[sharp fossil]

huh, that’s whack

[coral verge]

yup, 4th sword special nullifies traps, including lava

[sharp fossil]

maybe post in #h1-tech-support

[tired marsh]

I just noticed the tech support tab, I'll go down there.

[brisk trail]

what about ||Hades' pots?||

[sharp fossil]

yeah, hope you find a fix

[coral verge]

probably since they're considered traps and Athena's Boon trap damage reduction works on that

[sharp fossil]

@brisk trail final boss identity is a spoiler in this channel

pretty sure arthur’s aura doesn’t work on ||hades urns tho||

[brisk trail]

i mean the game is literally about him
so he is considered a spoiler?

[smoky halo]

oh wow, does arthur aura nullify poison too?

[sharp fossil]

don’t believe so

[smoky halo]

like if it's on the ground

[subtle cobalt]

Well, now i know who's the final boss 😠

[coral verge]

last boss's a spoiler, just remove it

[sharp fossil]

or tag it

[coral verge]

or use Redacted

[sharp fossil]

thx

[brisk trail]

oh wow and here i thought i was going to play ||Hades|| this entire time
So the title is probably irrelevant

[smoky halo]

really bold choice from them to make the final boss be Odin, that's not even the right pantheon

[mellow quiver]

how do i use redacted

[brisk trail]

|| ||

[mellow quiver]

because i have a question that might include a spoiler

[smoky halo]

two |'s on eihter side

[brisk trail]

||||

Any of you fans of Getter Robo?

[mellow quiver]

oh so its the icon with the eye?

[wind wedge]

Yeah, that too on a pc

[brisk trail]

Which of the characters in Hades would be most able to utilize the Getter Rays?

any channel for suggestion or something?

[mellow quiver]

How tf do i defeat ||Theseus||, I'm using ||aspect of poseidon|| with the sword, using artemis cast mostly

[smoky halo]

practice I guess

[mellow quiver]

its infuriating, everyone makes it look so easy but i cant bait the charge into a pillar and the spear keeps hitting me

[sharp fossil]

artemis cast pierces shields

[wind wedge]

So, the trick is dodging and positioning

[mellow quiver]

I've failed like 6 times now :<

[sharp fossil]

arty cast build is like, the easiest way to fight ||Theseus|| arguably

[wind wedge]

Spear can't hit you if you have a pillar in the way, for example

[smoky halo]

if you keep moving, the spear becomes a non-factor

[mellow quiver]

Yeah I've been using the pillars

and also

[smoky halo]

I have dash on right click and during that fight I'm p much hammering that

[brisk trail]

well aside from the pillar you can try even bolder and bait him into the wall instaed

[sharp fossil]

omg dash on right click

wth lol

[mellow quiver]

i usually get to the 2nd phase of ||theseus|| with the ||mino|| dead and the moment he gets that powerup, it just becomes hell for me

[smoky halo]

I've had it that way since I started

I can't imagine it any other way

[mellow quiver]

I'm playing on switch

[sharp fossil]

i can’t even imagine using that control scheme

nah it’s fine; use what works for you

[smoky halo]

dash right click, attack left, cast on space, and special on shift

[sharp fossil]

just never heard that one before

[smoky halo]

dash is almost always the first or second most used button so it just made sense to me to have it on a mouse button

[mellow quiver]

i thought the hydra was bad 😦

[wind wedge]

i usually get to the 2nd phase of ||theseus|| with the ||mino|| dead and the moment he gets that powerup, it just becomes hell for me
@mellow quiver part of that is getting used to the patterns you get hit with there. It becomes easier to dodge when you unconsciously predict safe spaces because you recognise the pattern.

[brisk trail]

nah i want to destroy the space button not my right click

[mellow quiver]

yeah im sure ill get better with time

just didnt expect it to take this long

enjoying the game though!

especially with the new aspects I've gotten

[smoky halo]

I also have dash in direction of mouse cursor on

[sharp fossil]

re: dealing with the patterns; don’t stand still and try to keep to the edges of the arena

[smoky halo]

which also seems borderline required to me, I can't imagine only being able to dash in 8 directions on keyboard otherwise

[wind wedge]

Yeah, that's true, most of the patterns don't touch the very edge

[sharp fossil]

to start with, focus on defence while they’re come down, then attack Theseus in the breaks

[smoky halo]

also your builds will get better over time, too

[hollow lark]

so ive never used the single dd before what does patro do if you hav it?

[smoky halo]

making hte fight easier

[wind wedge]

so ive never used the single dd before what does patro do if you hav it?
@hollow lark there's an alternative "powerup" which makes it better.

[hollow lark]

yea thats what im asking is what does that do

[sharp fossil]

I also have dash in direction of mouse cursor on
@smoky halo ah, that explains it

[mellow quiver]

so far with the build I'm using, everything just dies within 3-4 shots of my cast

[hollow lark]

just curious

[mellow quiver]

think its making me too comfy

[wind wedge]

IIRC, it recovers more health?

[hollow lark]

is it like for a certain amount of rooms or is it perma?

id guess its like 10 rooms or something?

[wind wedge]

For a certain number of rooms.

[mellow quiver]

whats a good weapon for potentially facetanking? if theres one, like Aphro/Dionysus kinda

[wind wedge]

15 I think, it's a pretty long duration, but I only got it once as I rarely use Stubborn Defiance too

[sharp fossil]

whats a good weapon for potentially facetanking? if theres one, like Aphro/Dionysus kinda
@mellow quiver shield lol

any of them

[mellow quiver]

oh i just spam special on shield

with zeus

[smoky halo]

@mellow quiver there's some hidden aspects that are good for that but I'm guessing you don't have those yet

[sharp fossil]

chaos is best for defensive play tho

[mellow quiver]

I dont like its melee though

yeah not yet

shield normal attack feels clunky

Sword's probably my favourite weapon atm

[smoky halo]

RIP in peace old chaos shield

[sharp fossil]

...RIP in peace?

[smoky halo]

new one seems kinda bad to me but that might just be in comparison to how it was

[sharp fossil]

oh no

[hybrid pike]

Hello, guys. Do you need Hell Mode to complete 100% of achievements?

Or just Extreme Measures?

[hollow lark]

whats the difference i played it recently and it felt worse but couldnt tell what exactly was different

[sharp fossil]

people like you gave us PIN number, ATM machine, and FTL: Faster than Light

[fallen violet]

GG

Vicious cycle with Ares call

Easy win

[hollow lark]

ive never played hell mode and i hav all achievements @hybrid pike

[smoky halo]

SMH my head

[hybrid pike]

ive never played hell mode and i hav all achievements @hybrid pike
@hollow lark Thank you so much!

[mellow quiver]

whats the easiest weapon for a first clear?

[sharp fossil]

@hybrid pike technically you don’t even need EM

[mellow quiver]

Railgun and shield?

[smoky halo]

is hell mode just the opposite of god mode?

[sharp fossil]

pretty much

[hybrid pike]

Isn't there an EM requirement for Elysium?

[smoky halo]

like the default?

[sharp fossil]

specifically Eris and Chaos, i’d say

[mellow quiver]

wait btw whats god mode?

Eris is the one with bonus damage after manually reloading right?

[hybrid pike]

Can you also get 100% achievements with god mode? 🤔

[mellow quiver]

I've been using that one, i love it so much lmao

[smoky halo]

oh you need EM3 for one of achievements right?

[sharp fossil]

@mellow quiver that’s hestia

[coral verge]

God Mode doesn't lock you out of anything besides a Hell Mode only option

[sharp fossil]

eris is bonus damage after hitting yourself with your special

[hybrid pike]

Oh, so you can still add heat. nice.

I'm having trouble with hell mode. can't kill Redacted with it 😦

[smoky halo]

"Hell mode offers bounties up to 25 heat instead of 20 heat in normal difficulty, due to the mandatory 5 heat from the start." hmm, something seems off about this wiki article

[hybrid pike]

already encountered Redacted 8 times and still can't kill

[sharp fossil]

oh you need EM3 for one of achievements right?
@smoky halo maybe you do? I didn’t think so, but i could be wrong; i got most of them retroactively

[mellow quiver]

Oh yeah, I went Ares/Athena with hestia, smooth cruising, but I fudged it at ||Theseus|| because he did his power up for the first time and i freaked out

[hybrid pike]

Champion of Elysium
Clear Elysium with the 'Extreme Measures' Condition
I think this is the achievement with the EM condition

not sure if it's supposed to be EM3 tho

[smoky halo]

yeah

[sharp fossil]

new one seems kinda bad to me but that might just be in comparison to how it was
@smoky halo okay this is pet peeve of mine lol

it’s actually still great

worse? absolutely

but still solid

[smoky halo]

It's still a shotgun, yeah

[mellow quiver]

aight gonna try another run to get zaggy out of here wish me luck!

[smoky halo]

it's just gone from clearly best aspect to what seems like solid B tier

[sharp fossil]

i can do 20 heat on it without breaking a sweat

can’t do that with any other aspect

[smoky halo]

I guess it's hard to beat multiplying your special output by 5

[hybrid pike]

also, is there a way to "undo" aspect? I accidentally unlocked an aspect I didn't end up liking. really messed up my game 😦

[mortal wadi]

you can select the first one

[smoky halo]

nah, unless you quit out after unlocking

[sharp fossil]

it’s still the best aspect in the game for defence as far as i’m concerned

[smoky halo]

oh do you mean like re selecting the old aspect?

[sharp fossil]

yeah, it’s damage isn’t crazy but that was never the case

[mortal wadi]

If you mean having the base weapon then just select the first aspect

[hollow lark]

you can quit the game after accidentally spending titan blood as long as you hadnt entered ur room

if thats the question

[sharp fossil]

yeah i think they started a run, so quitting out to reset won’t work

[hollow lark]

it would still work as long as they didnt die in the run

like they can quit mid run

but if the room is over yea theyre stuck with it

[mortal wadi]

Anyway, can ||Ruthless Reflex|| stack? I think I'm getting 100% dodge chance

[sharp fossil]

it autosaves every time you enter a room

[mortal wadi]

no

not if you close the game without quitting from the menu

[sharp fossil]

oh okay

[mortal wadi]

if you close it from like task manager it doesnt save

[sharp fossil]

fair enough, never done that

[fallen violet]

I am getting progressively worse at the game

[hollow lark]

nah if you click give up

[fallen violet]

I just defied twice on em3

actually embarrassing

[sharp fossil]

i am also getting worse

a few days ago i lost a run on 10 heat

[hollow lark]

em3 with the bonus move speed pact is rough

[sharp fossil]

what’m i even doing lol

[smoky halo]

I'm only getting worse because I've been trying stupid builds

[hollow lark]

em3 fo2 is rough af

[smoky halo]

my last win was with a thorns build with arthur lmao

[sharp fossil]

try EM4 FO2

... i think i’m starting to realise why i always lose

[hybrid pike]

oh do you mean like re selecting the old aspect?
@smoky halo yeah, I guess it can't be undone

[hollow lark]

em4 dumpstered me without fo

[sharp fossil]

oof

haven’t tried it without FO yet lol

[smoky halo]

wait what is FO again

[hollow lark]

i beat it my first try but it was definitely not worth the heat

[sharp fossil]

forced overtime

extra enemy speed

[hollow lark]

forced overtime where they attack and move faster

[smoky halo]

oh yeah right

I've beaten em4 but not with FO lmao

[sharp fossil]

i did it one time on accident

can’t do i again

[smoky halo]

I've had builds that definitely could have but everyone probably has

sometimes you just get super lucky

[sharp fossil]

yeah exactly

my build was ||beo|| with trippy shot

2 payloads phased him lol

[smoky halo]

sometimes you just have that kinda build or like 80% dodge with plume

where it's hard to die

[sharp fossil]

had at least 2 extra cast damage boons from chaos as well iirc

[smoky halo]

that's gross

[sharp fossil]

now i play 4th shield like 50% of my runs, in an attempt to recapture that moment of glory lol

did 32 on it the other day, but without EM4

still can’t crack EM4 FO2 again

[heady elm]

i am not sure if this is a feature or a bug but i am getting some really wild number variation on a lot of hades boons

[hard pawn]

rarity is a thing, and each rarity has a range of numbers it randomly decides from

[heady elm]

they say i upgrade to 140 damage and then next time is says it starts at 120 and then i get more bonus damage to all my attacks and special from leveling it up from 2-3 than 2-4

i am talking about the poms

every time i pick one up i feel like the starting numbers or ending numbers are shifting

only noticed it after the most recent patch (I have been playing since blood price)

[lean crow]

Just learning about the game and curious to hear from Supergiant

[Question] Why only port to Nintendo's Switch and not Xbox or PS4? What factored into making that decision?

@bleak plaza @low sleet 🙂 thanks.

[hard pawn]

@ ing devs kinda weird chief

no my nitro D:

[flat vapor]

YOOOO

SHEET MUSIC

[patent topaz]

GOOD RIDDANCE MUSIC SHEETS GOOD RIDDANCE MUSIC SHEETS GOOD RIDDANCE MUSIC SHEETS GOO-

No piano tho mmh :c

[mortal dawn]

Time to re-grind everything on a new save file because my 50 hours one is corrupted

[brisk trail]

F

[mellow quiver]

I DID IT I KILLED ||THESEUS||

[flat vapor]

congrats!!!

[sharp fossil]

No piano tho mmh :c
hmm might have to fix that

[pallid bramble]

Nice work!
I'm still stuck at him, so definitely GJ on beating him

[sharp fossil]

been ages since i’ve done any arrangements, but this might be the motivation i need

[mellow quiver]

||styx|| is bad

still its the farthest I've gotten so that feels amazing

[flat vapor]

i mean, now that you know the guitar part, transcribing the melody should be easy

[brisk trail]

i wish there is some kind of expensive and rare option that let you uppgrade rarity of your boon
right now i think we only have like maybe 2-4 ways that let you upgrade rarity

[mellow quiver]

Is there a bow aspect that feels snipey?

[gusty slate]

Aren't they all technically snipey? I mean Chiron aspect can get some nice range

[brisk trail]

Chiron if you want that snipey feeling i guess

[mellow quiver]

Chrion feels to quick, i mean like, slow hits, high damage per hit I guess?

[gusty slate]

Rail Hestia is more sniper imo

[mellow quiver]

like hestia

[brisk trail]

bow 4 Rama

[gusty slate]

Hera with a meaty cast can do it

[quartz flume]

Btw, is there any essential difference between boon level and rarity? They both raise the numbers, why have 2 categories?

[mellow quiver]

I havent discovered Rama, I'll try Hera

[gusty slate]

Rarity has higher scaling

40% vs 60% is one example

at base level

[mellow quiver]

Zag's such a loveable protanganist, cant get enough of the dialogue in this game

[brisk trail]

Rarity upgrade raise like a flat number on the 4 main attack slots
for passives they also provide either a flat number or something really good like high rarity of Chaos and Hermes
for lv, the first 2 lv is nice, but the number after each upgrade get reduced

[gusty slate]

There are also special rarities yeah, ||legendary|| and ||duo||

[brisk trail]

is it me or heroic rarity is only achieved by either Demeter and replace existing boons?
like i cant think of anyway of making them appear making them probably as rare as Legendary boons

[gusty slate]

Yes that is how that works

You can also achieve it through ||Eurydice||

[brisk trail]

i forgot her, but yeah like only 3 ways

[quartz flume]

So many things to spoiler in this game lol

[gusty slate]

I'm just doing that

[brisk trail]

i mean isnt anything technically a spoiler if the game is new
like if the game was released a day ago, even the first boss is a spoiler
i mean where do you even draw the boundary of what is and isnt a spoiler?

[quiet gull]

Whenever you're offered a boon trade, it's always a higher rarity if available

[gusty slate]

I'm just tiredly spoiler tagging things which might be fine

Underworld takes a toll

[brisk trail]

the only thing i found spoiler worthy is the story and anything after beating the final boss for the first time
even the final boss shouldnt be the spoiler
like we all know who it going to be even if we havent finished any run

[quartz flume]

@brisk trail technically a spoiler is an unexpected plot twist. Here people are a bit too spoiler aware imo

I haven't finished several storylines so I'm a bit afraid to open spoiler tags. But it gets confusing when random weapon and location names get tagged

[quiet gull]

As this is the developer's own server, a spoiler is whatever they say is a spoiler. Be nice, play by the rules, there's an entire channel dedicated to spoiler stuff if you want it

[gusty slate]

4th aspects are apparently spoiler territory, not sure if that's still the case

Probably is, since they're pinned in spoilers channel

[unkempt sleet]

anything considered late game and after the first clear is spoilers, as well as the final boss

[quartz flume]

I'm not going against the rules or something, just wanna discuss what's on my mind. Did the devs say exactly what is a spoler tho?

I don't see how a name of a weapon, even 4th, is a spoiler

[unkempt sleet]

well, final boss, anything involving the ending, secret aspects and companions

[gusty slate]

I'll try to make my spoiler tag item theme more obvious next time

[inner thicket]

Idk where we post suggestions but I think it'd be nice when you are looking at the boons in the menu, there can be an indicator telling you which boons you have currently.

[tawdry flower]

Basically anything new for 1.0 or anything at or after reaching the final boss

[gusty slate]

@inner thicket There's a button for that. B on kbm

[hard pawn]

select on controller ^

[tawdry flower]

I wish the button to look at your boons counted as pausing the game

[unkempt sleet]

Well for now 1.0 things are considered spoilers even in the spoiler channel

[inner thicket]

Are you guys sure? I'm pressing both and neither are showing anything different.

[tawdry flower]

If you’re using the ||Pact Of Punishment time limit||, the clock keeps ticking

And things can attack you

[gusty slate]

Check your keybinds

[unkempt sleet]

It was like that during an earlier update and they changed it

[inner thicket]

https://imgur.com/ckl9msm Where is the indictor supposed to show?

[hard pawn]

@tawdry flower thats why you do it while picking up a boon, pom, etc ||cause those pause the timer||

oh are you on switch

[inner thicket]

no this is PC

[hard pawn]

should pop up on the left

[gusty slate]

It does tell you what boons you have in the codex I think

For the ones with pre-reqs

[hard pawn]

oh you're in your codex

[inner thicket]

Yeah, it shows the ones for the prereqs, but I guess It'd be also nice to kinda have something to show which ones u have already 😛

[hard pawn]

you can't pull it up in your codex

[unkempt sleet]

yeah in the codex the boons you have are highlighted in green in t2 boons

[gusty slate]

Ah I see what you're saying

[unkempt sleet]

so if you scroll down to the boons that require other boons the ones you already have are green

[gusty slate]

idk where they would put that in codex lol

[inner thicket]

Okay, yeah, idk if any of the devs read this, but I guess idk, just a suggestion i think could be useful

[gusty slate]

I guess the feedback channel is archived now huh

[unkempt sleet]

Yeah sadly

[inner thicket]

for example in my image https://imgur.com/ckl9msm I think they can just highlight the SquareIcon with a glowing border or something to indicate you already have it. Something simple like that should work

[unkempt sleet]

But it should show you what boons you already have in boons that require them

[gusty slate]

Keep that thought in mind if SGG announces they want to keep working on Hades

for now we just use codex to check pre-reqs, boon list is another button

[inner thicket]

Yeah, I know, but it's more incovenient to scroll up and down I guess. idk not the biggest deal obviously, but a QoL thing

[gusty slate]

Of course

Sorta wish we had the boon charts in the codex

The list is giant

[inner thicket]

that'd be nice as well

[flat peak]

Just gonna add that ||Greece|| is overrated. Doesn't even have ||a fish in every pond||. Why even play this game?

[tawdry flower]

It’s just weird that opening the codex stops things and the boon menu has everything keep attacking you

[gusty slate]

I'm a masochist who likes to facetank everything. The game lets me so I play

But you can't open codex in battle

but yeah I see what you're saying

[tawdry flower]

||Greece has best fish. Worth Diamonds/Blood/Ambrosia|| @flat peak

[gusty slate]

If checking boon list lets time stop for TD given certain conditions

[unkempt sleet]

I mean you can just pause

[brazen pewter]

There are more than enough places that give the timer a break honestly.

[gusty slate]

I guess. I don't run TD though so there's my credibility

[tawdry flower]

But if I want to go check one of my boons, or say I pick up the hammer at the shop that gives up one for two new ones

Checking it doesn’t pause the timer

[gusty slate]

Picking a boon up does pause it?

[tawdry flower]

But not going back to check your old list

Which is also the only way I’ve found to check the room number I’m in

[brisk trail]

what does the ||fire skulls that you recieve every time you end a run||?

[tawdry flower]

You mean ||heat|| from the ||pact of punishment||?

[unkempt sleet]

What do you mean

[brisk trail]

You mean ||heat|| from the ||pact of punishment||?
@tawdry flower yes

I have 1 but idk what to do with it

[unkempt sleet]

When you start a run there's a thing by the window

[hazy panther]

You don’t do anything with them

[brisk trail]

then why are they for

[hazy panther]

An indicator of how much you’ve added to the run

[tawdry flower]

They just make the game ||harder|| and give you more resources

[brisk trail]

ooh

alright

[hazy panther]

You need 5/10/15

[unkempt sleet]

This is very unusual, I think it's been 4-5 updates since we've been able to drop heat from something

Maybe even more. God this game changed.

[gusty slate]

'tis good I can slack off at 0 heat forever

[unkempt sleet]

Not if you want some of that sweet sweet Ambrosia

[gusty slate]

I've done all bounties up to 19 heat, I never have to step up again

Unless I want that certain 32 heat item...

[floral shore]

At some point the urge will get you to complete all the bounties.

[gusty slate]

I mean that's what my new save is for

Instead of doing heat 20 I'm doing all 1-19 again... I'm irrational

[floral shore]

I just wanted to have everything completed that the game incentivizes.

[gusty slate]

That's fair

[floral shore]

Like I don't do high heat runs, paid my dues and did my 32 but learned that that stuff is not for me.

But otherwise anything that the game actually rewards you for in any way is done, aside from the badges.

Because that needs a ludicrous amount of Darkness.

[unkempt sleet]

This achievement is bugged, right? I refuse to believe it shows the right percentage.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/550317561707888670/762021645556121640/Hades_achievements_are_bugged.PNG

[deep marten]

Showing 18.9% for me

[flat vapor]

still too low

[unkempt sleet]

That's still too low

[brisk trail]

Gotta crank that number up

[gusty slate]

Compare it with the highest % achieve how much is that?

[brisk trail]

For the goodest boi

[sharp fossil]

if it isn’t 100% i ragequit

[deep marten]

highest percent is escape tartarus - 57.3%

[sharp fossil]

petting cerberus is the law

[gusty slate]

Hm. oof

[brisk trail]

Btw it's funny how when I use other weapons, get to face ||Asterius solo||, but when I use fists, not at all. I just want him to notice me and unlock the final aspect >_>

[sharp fossil]

make sure you’re picking mini boss rooms in Elysium

it’s possible to skip them by accident

[gusty slate]

Those rooms are skull and a red up thing?

[brisk trail]

There's no way to be sure, sometimes I pick the boon one mid-way, and its just normal chamber with enemies.

[gusty slate]

I can never tell the difference

[brisk trail]

That's still too low
@unkempt sleet Not really

[sharp fossil]

the skull is an elite room, with harder enemies

the skull with the red chevron is a miniboss room

[gusty slate]

That sounds about right

[unkempt sleet]

How dare you, Cerberus deserves more pets

[sharp fossil]

^always

[gusty slate]

I wasn't going to get that pet achieve originally. Was testing for someone so got it by accident.

[brisk trail]

20% of the players doing that 10 times it in fact a lot

[sharp fossil]

disagree

[brisk trail]

more than 50% of the people that buy a game never play it

[sharp fossil]

insufficient petting

[brisk trail]

not my stadistics, steam ones

the skull with the red chevron is a miniboss room
@sharp fossil I see

[sharp fossil]

even if you never play the game you should pet cerberus

[quiet gull]

8.3% have seen the credits, that's really high

[deep marten]

I'm guessing there's also a lot of players who played EA, but haven't gotten around to it after release and achievements were added

[brisk trail]

I always pet the good boi whenever he's available

||Even bought him a plushie and a ball||

[sharp fossil]

@brisk trail yeah it took me ages to realise what was going on with the elite/miniboss symbols

[gusty slate]

I never pet good boi, but I'll always silent boi

[sharp fossil]

hmm

well, i guess that’s only half blasphemy

you really gotta do both tho

[gusty slate]

I'll be a sinner then

Where else do I go... I'm already in the underworld

[brisk trail]

Wait, what? We can give nectar to rock boi?

[sharp fossil]

oh yus

[brisk trail]

Damnn

[sharp fossil]

bouldy deserves all the nectar

[brisk trail]

70+ runs, and I never knew that >_>

[sharp fossil]

and he will reward you greatly

well, he will reward you okay

[brisk trail]

But then again, my encounter with Sisyphus is notoriously low compared to other NPCs

[sharp fossil]

there will be rewards

a little

[deep marten]

Tbh, I've only learned about that after 120+ runs

[brisk trail]

I see. Gotta give it a try next time

[sharp fossil]

technically the rewards have benefits

took me ages to realise as well lol

[gusty slate]

I figured it out because I always try to interact with things

[deep marten]

I mean, he still deserves it even without rewards

[sharp fossil]

agreed

[eager blade]

Bruh

[sharp fossil]

but he is a magnanimous god king who rewards his followers

[eager blade]

I just noticed hades is king yemma from dbz

[brisk trail]

has anyone got any tips for me for beating the ||last phase|| of EM4?

Seems he is just ||regenerating faster than I can deal damage||

[sharp fossil]

||if you destroy the urns he can’t regenerate||

or so i’m told

[brisk trail]

oooh! Well that's good to know indeed!

[shadow fable]

or just have better DPS 🙂

[sharp fossil]

yeah lol

[brisk trail]

gotta try that, thanks!

[sharp fossil]

only time i made it i had no idea how he worked, i just mashed big damage until he stopped moving

[brisk trail]

or just have better DPS 🙂
@shadow fable well yeah, but there's only so much you can do about it yourself. A lot is down to getting lucky with the boons

some combinations are just amazing

[sharp fossil]

there’s a bunch of ways to make it more likely to get the boons you want

every aspect has a few simple yet effective builds that can be farmed pretty reliably

it’s mostly down to keepsakes, fated persuasion, paying attention to your god pool and being aware of prerequisites

[brisk trail]

huh, I guess I'll have to read up on strategy. Up until now I've been kinda winging it and made pretty reliable progress

[sharp fossil]

honestly that’s a valid way to play the game

i still sometimes play that way

but it can be hard to do certain heat options without at least some kind of build

[deep marten]

I mean, if you're making it to EM4, you're doing something right

[brisk trail]

I do enjoy that this way you stumble into play styles that you wouldn't have chosen

but it can be hard to do certain heat options without at least some kind of build
@sharp fossil I think I'm approaching that wall now

I mean, if you're making it to EM4, you're doing something right
@deep marten haha, I guess 🙂

think my highest heat so far has been 15

and so far I've been annoyed at myself if I didn't make it all the way through a run

[sharp fossil]

that was about the point i started looking into builds, i think

[brisk trail]

hate having beat bosses and just get some darkness

[sharp fossil]

people who’re really familiar with this genre have gotten pretty far on pure micro skills and twitch reflexes alone tho, so ymmv

[deep marten]

It takes pure skill to clear on run 1

[brisk trail]

About fishing

yeah, I'm not really that kind of person. At least if by "this genre" you mean rogue-lites

"It's a knucklehead it's a knucklehead it's a knucklehead it's a knucklehead it's a knucklehead"

Hades is honestly the first I've really gotten into

[shadow fable]

fishing is hard 🙂

[deep marten]

knucklehead ain't bad

[sharp fossil]

yeah roguelikes/lites

[brisk trail]

never liked any of the others

[sharp fossil]

my cousin got to champions on his first run, ‘cause he’s sunk about a billion hours into Binding of Isaac

[brisk lagoon]

hello, i am looking for a high res version of this (official marketing) artwork of zagreus that's here in the trailer @1:10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91t0ha9x0AE#t=1m09s
anyone know where I could find it?

[brisk trail]

I'm actually kind of anxious if I will still like Hades so much once there's no more dialogue to unlock

[deep marten]

I mean, I'm still getting new dialogue after 130 runs here and there, so there is still a way to go

[sharp fossil]

it takes a while to get to that point

[brisk trail]

my cousin got to champions on his first run, ‘cause he’s sunk about a billion hours into Binding of Isaac
@sharp fossil haha, yeah. Friend of mine's also really into roguelikes and he's annoyed at Hades for being too easy and simplistic

[gusty slate]

nearly 200 hours later... still more dialogue....

[brisk trail]

told him to keep at it, hope he does

[sharp fossil]

but yeah, i’ve pretty much ran out of dialogue, only a few things left to unlock

still enjoying it a lot atm

but i dunno how long this will continue

[gusty slate]

I play for amusement, well more-so to confirm I am actually 'good' at something XD

[deep marten]

But then you can just start a new hell mode run and do it all over again!

[brisk trail]

well, let's all enjoy it while we do 😄

[sharp fossil]

maybe forever? usually i burn out of a game well before this tho

[void vigil]

@brisk lagoon closest is this steam background https://steamcommunity.com/economy/profilebackground/items/1145360/9fb1f66f3687f84019554b7e334135b36203f84c.jpg

[gusty slate]

Hades easy and simplistic... hmmm

[sharp fossil]

yeah lol

sounds like someone who hasn’t unlocked heat

so someone who hasn’t beat the game

[brisk lagoon]

@void vigilahh cool, that's still so much better than taking a screenshot off of a youtube video. thank you so much!

[gusty slate]

I mean, there's hellmode

[sharp fossil]

and it’s pretty amusing to call a game easy if you haven’t beaten it

[brisk trail]

But then you can just start a new hell mode run and do it all over again!
@deep marten sure but like I said, while I really enjoy the gameplay, I'm not sure without the story I would've kept at this game for so long. I like arcady games but I'm really drawn to story-focussed ones

[gusty slate]

I've grown rather attached to the characters

[wet iris]

Wow, wish I'd joined this server much earlier.

[gusty slate]

Must be why I'm still around

[wet iris]

Played since Winter 2018.

[gusty slate]

Oh wow

[wet iris]

Anyone know of a bug report area?

[sharp fossil]

same the characters are great

especially bouldy

[gusty slate]

Uh F10 or #h1-tech-support on switch

[sharp fossil]

he has so much personality

[wet iris]

Oh right, forgot about the in-game tool. Thanks!

[brisk trail]

sounds like someone who hasn’t unlocked heat
@sharp fossil yeah, I mean I think even when he did... when you're really good, just smashing attack and dash can get you a long way, so you aren't forced into the complexities of the combat

[deep marten]

Bouly is really stoic, reliable. He's like a rock you can stand on

Literally