I really want to see more Dusa fanart
#h1-discussion
plain lava
fallen violet
shh
solar abyss
need more dusa cosplays
glass pond
Noticed the Steam page had some neat FMV previews like of Zag fighting the Hydra, which I dont think are in the game itself. Are those videos stored/viewable anywhere other than game store previews?
deep pivot
Please, bear in mind rule #1 "Be kind." Be respectful towards others, please.
dawn imp
@fallen violet go on humblebundle.com and look at the monthly package
solar abyss
Literally no one was being impolite lol
plain lava
Is it a reminder just in case? Felt a little strange ngl
fallen violet
Yeah
dawn imp
Well this game offends me as an atheist I don't believe in Hades!
fallen violet
@dawn imp Is 9 games good value tho for 12 dollars?
dawn imp
jk š
fallen violet
Depends on value of games
plain lava
Catherine alone is worth $12
dawn imp
I mean if they are BS mobile games nah
but generally Humble monthly gives you real games
fallen violet
Steam keys?
fallen violet
How many are steam keys?
plain lava
They've been lacking since IGN bought them. Only a few months have really been absolute bangers. Regardless, it is still good bang for the buck
dawn imp
Almost every month over the last 2 years has been a steal
dark souls 3+all DLC+ lots of random indies for $10?
sounds like a deal to me lol
brisk trail
Am I the only one who notices the mini carriages who explode
do cat sounds?
like meows
brisk trail
oml
plain lava
I think my biggest issue is that they started selling a gazillion ebook bundles, and "software" bundles that are really just not the best for what you want to do
polar nexus
hi im a new player here, can someone explain what a heat run means?
brisk trail
kind of cute ngl
flat vapor
imagine the chariots as lions
rough token
@polar nexus it's something you unlock || after beating the final boss ||
fallen violet
@polar nexus Have you unlocked the pact of punishment?
polar nexus
ah ok. thanks for the answers
vast junco
undone sequoia
Anyone else playing in switch? Love the game and the soundtrack but I feel like the volume is too low when not using headphones, canāt even hear the BGM sometimes and the voices sounds too low 
rough token
@undone sequoia you should be able to change the volume settings in-game?
undone sequoia
I checked and itās already on max
When I play other games the sounds are okay but when i switch to Hades i feel that the volume is too low 
undone sequoia
Iāll research on it then. Thanks @rough token @vast junco.
deep pivot
I had to delete that. Sorry!
north pier
hold on, does zag ever say "objection!" when he fights tisiphone
cause like
missed opportunity
dark bay
I did it
60 hours, 15 minutes, and 23 seconds is apparently my time
Hell yeah
vapid narwhal
3 runs in a row cant get past the mino rip
waxen seal
my achievements and play time are still bugged. i bought the game after early access, and i'd like to track my play time. any fixes?
tried uninstalling
rough token
@waxen seal not sure what you mean, I'd ask in #h1-tech-support
waxen seal
kk
granite cove
Woah many steam achievements are below 5%
toxic thunder
Quick question, when can I use my titans blood? I read that it was after you had met the final boss, do I have to beat it? Or just get there and die lol
granite ether
once you unlock all your weapons
and by once, I mean a run after unlocking them all
burnt breach
@hard orchid @void plinth @vast junco @narrow hemlock @flat vapor @raven silo Hope you guys don't mind the ping. Mods for Hades exist since 2019 and the modding discord came about in January. I post the link regularly in #self-promotion . If you have suggestions for a mod or you are interested in modding feel free to join, as for mods they are published on nexusmods.com
toxic thunder
Ah thank you @granite ether
granite ether
no worries ^_^
void plinth
No prob for me, thanks for the tip
toxic thunder
I havenāt bought the last one because I love the spear too much
burnt breach
As a side note (and shameless promotion) I even published a new mod yesterday
granite cove
The biggest enemy in ||Asphodel|| are not the enemies but the ||magma|| o.O
granite cove
especially in the ||harder hydra fight||
pale zenith
hey guys. for the blade rift, do you guys prefer the boon that makes it a larger area or the one that pulls enemies in?
floral shore
vapid narwhal
yep
pale zenith
yes
vapid narwhal
but the larger area is totally viable, depending on your playstyle
pale zenith
I went with a build that has knockback and rupture on auto attacks, and that huge dmg increase on the special with potential self-dmg if you are in the area
but I think I will go with the pull effect
thanks!
north pier
the pull is ok, but the larger area is just simply more effective in my experience. the ones you want to pull won't get pulled, and you'll wish you had hit something more often than you are glad something got pulled imo
solar abyss
Any decent reason to stack up ambrosia?
rough token
you can use it later in the game
(as in, there is a mechanical benefit it can give you)
wicked iron
What' gaining someones 'favor' for? Does it do anything or is it just unlocking the final dialogue or something?
flat vapor
when you reach a certain point in nectar-giving, you won't be able to give anymore and their heart will be locked
a person's favor unlocks that heart and allows you to keep on giving stuff to them
manic bobcat
It's like bribing with extra steps.
wicked iron
Alright, thanks!
north pier
is there a way i can make dusa happy for the rest of her days
if there's a mod i'll install it
north pier
i ||took her on a date and that's where i'm at, I just want her to be ok man||
rough token
you got this 
solar abyss
wtf spoilers
north pier
SHE DESERVES THE WORLD @solar abyss TAKING HER ON A DATE IS A PALTRY SUM AND IS TO BE EXPECTED
solar abyss
millions of people in eternal agony in tartarus and you're worried about snake maid lol
manic bobcat
millions of people in eternal agony in tartarus and you're worried about snake maid lol
Idk, even Sisyphus seems p chill
rough token
most of the shades don't seem too bad off
solar abyss
It is pretty hilarious how little he seems to care that he is literally in hell for all eternity
cerulean pulsar
I find funny that Dusa with a gun emote, specially.... ||taking into account the reward for leveling up her hearts||
solar abyss
Does erebus gateway help you a lot? Is it worth saving for?
Huge investment and the game doesn't even bother giving you a hint what it does
rough token
it's good
cerulean pulsar
personally... I try to avoid Erebus
it has ||two codex data||, but... it is a pain and sometimes the scenarios are really unfair
solar abyss
If someone has the heart lock does that mean you have to give them ambrosia?
Or just talk to them a lot maybe
cerulean pulsar
heart lock is "do something"
rough token
you have to complete a favor for them
solar abyss
?? Will they tell you what it is...?
rough token
yup
cerulean pulsar
sometimes
manic bobcat
Do something in Hades just mean do more runs. If it has a ?, interact with it
rough token
or a ā
solar abyss
not being able to buy my way to victory smh
north pier
if ||dusa__ || has a heart lock do i need to ||du-something||
cerulean pulsar
yes
solar abyss
when people talk about hearts they are only talking about dusa
rough token
no?
north pier
:)
I literally only want to give dusa things, she deserves like, i dunno, at least some laurels or an employee highlight in the lounge
the whole place has a mirror sheen- and the broker gets his name up in lights?
nah fam
solar abyss
simping for dusa
north pier
stanning for dusa*
dusa earned her place
is there like some dusa fan club i can join yet
i'm talking in real life, how do i stan dusa irl
serious replies only
solar abyss
write a letter
north pier
who should i write to
solar abyss
I'm locked out of dusa heart... which is fine. Megarda is my rebound babe
north pier
RUDE
solar abyss
Baby I got stacks of contraband over here. Stacks.
silent viper
is there a keepsake cabinet before the final boss
or do i need to change to my final trinket before elysium
silent viper
okay cool
limpid crown
I hope the cross saves for the switch update won't be at the last day of 2020
solar abyss
Using switch 
limpid crown
Gotta play something while in the bootcamp bro
rough token
Goose, can you lay off please. You're constantly ridiculing people, and it's not really funny. If you're being silly or sarcastic, please actually say so with something like /s or /j
north pier
nothing wrong with playing on switch :)
quaint wind
please keep it clean folks
rough token
that's not how it felt. apologies if I misunderstood. might just be me being tired
north pier
Sorry, I thought a spoiler tag would be enough :/
limpid crown
Oh I didn't mind Goose's comment
solar abyss
Now xbox players on the other hand...
manic bobcat
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/336283305907322880/759691470789410856/IMG_20200927_042159.jpg
silent viper
LMAO
solar abyss
Lol
manic bobcat
How do I run Hades on this?
solar abyss
Postmodern comedy
rough token
who is it that doubles up on controllers? Lysol?
north pier
opk
manic bobcat
Ye
rough token
@terse geyser how's that control scheme working for you?
rough token
uh-oh
manic bobcat
The dude uses controller and mouse at the same time
rough token
:3
manic bobcat
Allegedly
dusk mantle
I have to try using controller on pc. Wonder if it's easier
north pier
is the controller actually significantly better than the m+k because of the fact that you have 360 degrees of movement
dusk mantle
I don't use bow or spear
rough token
controller for movement, mouse for aiming
solar abyss
controller is usually better for these types of games
Though it's much worse for railgun
flat vapor
big brain strats honestly
manic bobcat
is the controller actually significantly better than the m+k because of the fact that you have 360 degrees of movement
Nope
I used both starting out
Either works
solar abyss
Not "significantly" better
manic bobcat
Now I use controller just because I'm a couch potato
dusk mantle
I have given up on those bow and spear for now. I have decided I can only beat the final boss using shield or maybe fists if I get an super lucky build. Focussing on talos fistss.
rough token
funnily enough, I actually can barely use the hidden bow aspect
dusk mantle
I wish there was a way to reclaim titan blood if only 50% of it for limited uses. I needlessly wasted it on bow and spear.
rough token
much prefer Chiron, or sometimes Hera
north pier
Sword is hardest, no?
solar abyss
Yeah, they should make blood reclaimable
rough token
it's been asked for in #hades-feedback
solar abyss
Sword is better than fists at least
manic bobcat
Sword is hardest, no?
Dash Strike spam goes brrrrrr
dusk mantle
Bow is hardest cuz u have to play a hit and run style. I think with other weapons u can just dash strike and deflect spam
solar abyss
That's true
north pier
fists seem much better than sword in my experience
rough token
nah, chiron-in-your-face is great
solar abyss
Bow you can't spam dash strike to win
rough token
true
manic bobcat
Wait a sec
rough token
waiting
solar abyss
But a lot of the bosses have short range moves you can ignore entirely, on the other hand
manic bobcat
I only dash strike with bow
manic bobcat
north pier
i try so hard to ||get past hades in hell mode with sword|| and it's so difficult, actually one of the hardest things in gaming i've ever tried
manic bobcat
Well technically
solar abyss
Harder than fist?
rough token
ahh @north pier please || tag Hades' name ||
solar abyss
Hell mode is a spoiler..?
manic bobcat
No
rough token
no
manic bobcat
The name of the final boss is
north pier
sorry
manic bobcat
Who we all know is Dusa
manic bobcat
Hardest weapon is the one you main
rough token
who, || š« ||?
limpid crown
Wait I thought that the last boss was an angry shade
solar abyss
That way people are pleasantly surprised by her
north pier
||YOU CAN TAKE DUSA ON A DATE||
rough token
hahaha
manic bobcat
DEBATABLE
solar abyss
Why did I click that, I actually spoiled myself
rough token
I've got a run to finish and it's already 1:30 am
limpid crown
Don't worry its only 11:30 am here
rough token
lmao
north pier
it's 430 am actually
manic bobcat
Hmm makes sense, if it's 1130am there
limpid crown
You guys are in the past
manic bobcat
Then it's can br 430am here
rough token
Then it's can br 430am here
north pier
the midwest says hi
manic bobcat
I'm so tempted to gatekeep Midwest given I just moved out of Minneapolis 2 months ago xD
rough token
xD
manic bobcat
But I won't
rough token
good Fox š¦
manic bobcat
Hello there still
high island
I spam Dash-Strike with bow.
rough token
Mmhmm
high island
But it's also my worst weapon, so what do I know.
rough token
xD
north pier
@manic bobcat Please understand, that's canada
high island
Actually, spear is still my worst weapon.
manic bobcat
People who don't powershot scare me
high island
I don't powershot.
I power-shoot.
Unlike you, I don't kill grammar.
I guess that's why you're scared of me.
manic bobcat
Imagine policing grammar on the Internet
alpine tulip
A random little comment, ||but it would be nice to go to Greece past the Hades fight every so often, if we choose, after the ending.
It's just a nice place to look at||
rough token
@alpine tulip you can suggest that in #hades-feedback ! ^.^
alpine tulip
I can't even post there lol
manic bobcat
Read the pins
alpine tulip
ah
brisk trail
WOW
I succed 1Ā°C
With the duo that regen life +bow lol
Slowly regen and place yourself to shoot in distance lol
hoary flame
for some reason, Dusa won't come into my room after I maxed out her relationship. this is after ||Persephone comes back|| so maybe that's what's messing it up?
sturdy pier
Why do you want Dusa in your room 
manic bobcat
So she can help you clean up
hoary flame
supposed to be a scene there
rough token
#h1-story-discussion for anything more, I'd say
manic bobcat
Spoiler please
dusk mantle
Heh neat.. If you take an item from Well of Charon while his keepsake and ThEn change keepsake between, his +X encounters still applies to it.
rough token
yup
dusk mantle
That seems like a bug š
rough token
absolutely
dusk mantle
But I won't complain
dusk mantle
xD
manic bobcat
xD
rough token
D.D
sturdy pier
I think thatās intended tbh, not much of an advantage
opaque bough
20% movespeed for 12 encounters kinda hard to pass up with that
cerulean pulsar
I am surprised no one wrote ZxD after all the talk
opaque bough
even though it does basically nothing haha
manic bobcat
It lets you walk into traps more often
cerulean pulsar
it might also let you make a Benny Hill meme with Asterius
high island
Intended
Abuse it
I image that's less intended and more "oh, I guess that's fine, let's leave it."
manic bobcat
Mega spoiler
cerulean pulsar
... || is your friend lol
rough token
@strange meteor please ask that in #h1-story-discussion
and delete your message here
thank you ^.^
drifting summit
So I've done my first two clears (bow and sword) and been thinking about priorities. Currently I'm aiming to just take advantage of whatever weapon has the dark thirst bonus to slowly get used to all the weapons. And focus on a few ppl for gifting nectars.
cerulean pulsar
at least this isn't Steam forums where I recommended to hide about Redacted and the guy went all into defensive.... xD
rough token
that sounds good to me, Zetaragi
drifting summit
That's good to know haha.
cerulean pulsar
but spread a bit of nectar around everyone if possible first, 1 at least
drifting summit
Oh I already did that before my first clear
manic bobcat
Steam forum is a toxic wasteland tbh
drifting summit
After having played every past Supergiant game, it's fun to see Hades almost like a culmination of the stuff they've done and experimented with before.
cerulean pulsar
I was quite happy myself with Hades too, as both Transistor and Pyre even if I liked them a lot they always felt "off"
cerulean pulsar
for me Transistor was too short and unsatisfying conclusion
drifting summit
Awww I liked the ending
manic bobcat
Same
drifting summit
But yeah the feels
cerulean pulsar
I get the ending but I didn't like it at all xDu
drifting summit
It did feel short
manic bobcat
The gameplay didn't stick for me, the story did.
drifting summit
Same
Hades is interesting because you can get some op broken combinations I guess, but with RNG you can't do it consistently haha
dusk mantle
I have not tried transistor. After bastion this is my second supergiant game
worthy egret
I liked the ending
cerulean pulsar
Hades is literally mixing Bastion and Transistor (minus timestop, which I thought it was going to be sword secret aspect lol)
worthy egret
Nice change of pace from ||angst||
fathom thorn
anyone ever had the satyr fountain NOT restore you to full hp? is that a bug?
vale kite
did you have lasting consequences
worthy egret
It doesnt restore you to full
vale kite
and yeah
vale kite
it restores like 50% of your max health
rough token
a % of your max
worthy egret
^
fathom thorn
dont have lasting
vale kite
yeah then it's normal
cerulean pulsar
also you might be afflicted by a condition ||like Pact of Punishment||
fathom thorn
weird I thought it always get you to max
vale kite
nah you need dio's strong drink for that
fathom thorn
its what I always got over 40+ runs
cerulean pulsar
but for a max heal Dionysius boon is required
vale kite
bc you had more than half of your max health probably
rough token
it's a large % of your HP
worthy egret
Guess you got dunked more than usual
manic bobcat
It has always been 50% for me
worthy egret
I wonder if the dionysus boon makes the fountains taste different.
rough token
probably
fathom thorn
not like the normal fountain at the end of the floors
worthy egret
Zag tries to take a sip of the water. Its wine.
manic bobcat
Until LC comes and laughs at Zag drinking tap water
vale kite
yeah
fathom thorn
weird
cerulean pulsar
well, it also comes with a 3% damage increase so it is most likely Powerthirst
worthy egret
I love how even with LC you have to drink from the fountain. Hydration is important.
cerulean pulsar
actually Zagreus mentions ||that the lock of the room is affected by the water amount||
worthy egret
Take a sip babes
manic bobcat
Y'know, if Hades doesn't want Zag to leave, he can just... lock the damn doors.
worthy egret
I feel like the underworld might have a bit of a mind of its own
With how it rearranges itself constantly
manic bobcat
||How about the bif double door before the end||
rough token
I mean, || Daedelus did design the Underworld to be inescapable, but it still needs to be navigable for people who have legitimate work to do ||
cerulean pulsar
just set ||Cerberus|| earlier, with no access to the ||satyr sack||, problem solved
worthy egret
Or what if Zag being able to open it is his hades heritage acting up and he has no idea
rough token
also, @worthy egret it's because || it's the door to the surface, so worshippers can enter ||
manic bobcat
@rough token hmm good point
worthy egret
Oh right
manic bobcat
If only
There is an invention
Thay allows only people who have business getting through to go through
I should invent such a thinf
And call it a god damn lock
worthy egret
[Thanatos poof]
manic bobcat
Just kd, love ya
rough token
I mean...the doors are locked. There's just a really easy way to unlock them
also, literally everything Zag gets mad at can be "god damned"
cerulean pulsar
I guess the door is open because Redacted doesn't want to use the usual method to go back
rough token
I prefer, shades!
worthy egret
Y O U B L A S T E D L I T T L E-
cerulean pulsar
hey, I saw Zagreus using Idiot though
worthy egret
Oh right
Probably picked that up from dad
||My favourite angy Zag is still the so i would really prefer if you shut your mouth when you walk into the third bossfight without dds and badly hurt and theseus taunts you||
And Zag is just too done to deal with that
Actual line is
||"Theseus? I would appreciate it if you could be more considerate of the substantial effort necessary just to reach this point where I can make you shut your mouth."||
cerulean pulsar
I had a kind of different thing with ||Ares|| myself, but as Zagreus doesn't reply to those I was left more with my own internal turmoil of "oh yeah, I might have 20 hp left and no revives but still I am sure I am going to find Patroclus and bounce back" which I did
worthy egret
I honestly bitterly laughed at Artemis' ||"Hey, at least all the blood you lost made you really easy to track!"||
manic bobcat
Girl has mad sass
rough token
hey, could we keep some of this dialogue in #h1-story-discussion ? It's really fun for people to discover on their own
I don't know that it's explicitly a spoiler, but more of a courtesy thing ^.^
worthy egret
Spoilered
rough token
Thank you!
cerulean pulsar
I think I saw that one baaack then, if my memory isn't failing me, and yeah, indeed
pastel flume
Ive lost count on my runs, but ive given up on trying to unlock the other aspects
worthy egret
||Athena: youre gravely wounded, cousin!
Also Athena: doesnt offer deathless stand or last stand
Me: Well that was a goddamn lie.||
snow reef
what's a decently effective way to farm for the item dropped from boss 2? is it best to just use the trading post, or to play a lot of ||pact runs||?
rough token
|| pact, mostly ||
manic bobcat
The last option you mentioned is the sure fire way
snow reef
alright, so i'll basically just get more by playing naturally
manic bobcat
Also ||Styx Shop|| if you can save the Obols.
snow reef
might try that if my run is strong enough with just room drops, thx for the advice
cobalt maple
it's amazing how much my performance varies with different weapons
got 16 heat with rail, almost won 32 heat with shield but died at last boss
meanwhile I'm stuck at heat 2 with spear
full abyss
i am pretty new to hades just got it some days ago but i am addicted to it now XD
what are some builds you guys would suggest? i havent beaten it yet
rough token
honestly, just try out different things--just about anything is workable
vapid narwhal
easiest weapons are ||bow|| and ||shield||, for new players focus on getting all weapons, and try out different combinations, you'll be in level 1-3 for a while.
full abyss
i use ||spear|| mostly tbf
rough token
|| bow || being easy is debatable xD
full abyss
ngl kinda glad i went into it blind :3
its my first roguelikes aswell
left elk
I am so frustrated with fishing. Ive caught hundreds of fish, but I feel like I will never catch a legendary fish because I'm too slow. My fastest reaction speed tested is always .365 seconds. The very rare fish prophecy is the last one I need and I can never get it. Very disheartening. I press the button as soon as I see the flash... but maybe I'm also getting some lag from wirless controller? I dunno. Just so frustrated I can handle hell mode with decent heat but can't catch a fish. š
rough token
one trick I can suggest
on keyboard, hold your finger over the bob, so that you only see the white flash--means you won't be faked out by the drops
on controller, focus more on the vibration
left elk
1: I am on switch.
2: the pro controller doesn't vibrate for this.
3: I do look away enough to not see the bob and only see the flash in my peripheral vision.
And that helps a lot. I can definitely feel faster when I do that.
rough token
hmm
full abyss
||is chaos any good?||
cobalt maple
headphones + close your eyes
rough token
@ Kamp, yes
edgy crescent
I am trying to understand if the ||Chaos Egg|| is even remotely useful. I have encountered exactly 1 chaos gate at the last (or almost) room in Elysium and only because I used the item to force it.
rough token
gold urn is stellar xD
cobalt maple
what
left elk
But still catch both types of fish very regularly. The game has no way to tell you if you did a "perfect" catch right? I just have to re-load this first room thousands of times and continue to get knuckleheads and hellfish until I jave zero self estem left. I just want to scream.
edgy crescent
I just wanted to know if it's just bad luck or...
cobalt maple
gold urns are amazing for satyr tunnels
rough token
@left elk game will display "perfect catch" with a banner at the top
edgy crescent
I think that gold urns have netted me 100 coins in the last 15 runs
rough token
have you upgraded them?
left elk
It will? So i have literally never gotten one in hundreds of fish. Omg.
edgy crescent
@rough token I have the 10 coins upgrade
edgy crescent
I will try to destroy more urns haha
cobalt maple
if you were on PC I'd tell you to cheat and modify game files to increase perfect catch window
alas no way to do that on switch
rough token
yeah, I don't think the modding community has touched the switch yet
could ask them though
there's a discord server
edgy crescent
The ||chaos egg|| item is one of my favourites, I was just salty haha
wind wedge
I am so frustrated with fishing. Ive caught hundreds of fish, but I feel like I will never catch a legendary fish because I'm too slow. My fastest reaction speed tested is always .365 seconds. The very rare fish prophecy is the last one I need and I can never get it. Very disheartening. I press the button as soon as I see the flash... but maybe I'm also getting some lag from wirless controller? I dunno. Just so frustrated I can handle hell mode with decent heat but can't catch a fish. š
@left elk I feel your frustration: I have now all of the normal and rare fishes [barring the ones|| you need to complete a run to get||], but zero very rares at all, despite a lot of effort on that front.
(although at least in my case, I have other prophecies left to go for so I'm not quite in your situation yet.)
left elk
Yeah. It's terrible. I feel very confident about and look forward to earning my ||3rd skelly statue|| and I enjoy this game so much. Its a masterpiece that I've play for almost 140 hours since switch launch last week. But I don't look forward to fishing because of this. It's humiliating and not fun.
rough token
you guys could drop something in #hades-feedback asking for it to be eased a bit
left elk
I cant post there.
rough token
check the pins
left elk
Ah. Ty.
granite ether
make sure to read the pinned messages in the channel first ^_^
rough token
(the pins in #hades-feedback)
granite ether
yeah 
left elk
I have a fishing point in the very first room. I don't talk to the god boon and just go for it. Then hard close the game and do it again. I'm gonna try some stuff and test to see if visual/controller lag on switch is making this impossible.
rough token
ah
one thing that will make your life easier
hitting give up will reset the run
keeping the seed
left elk
Not on switch.
left elk
Cant give up until you clear the room.
rough token
oo
left elk
Oh wait.
rough token
yeah
left elk
Thats quit out.
left elk
Ive used give up before and i don't think it saved? You're %100 sure?
I'll try it. It saves the same run?
left elk
The fishing point will be here? Hmm. I'll try
worthy egret
I also havent gotten a legendary fish ever
Only one perfect catch in 200 hours
And im trying so hard i even did the thing where i just listen for it but im just too slow and its making me sad
tardy slate
Hey guys how long is this game really? Just beat the final boss for the 2nd time
tardy slate
When do I reach the true ending I mean
rough token
that'll take a bit
left elk
The give up thing worked. I'm on attempt 14 with no "perfect" catch yet.
rough token
more than one complete run
brisk trail
ending is like 6 runs
tardy slate
Oh ok by completing it with every weapon?
rough token
nope
I don't know exactly how long it will take, because I've been playing since before the true ending was added
tardy slate
Oh ok what should I focus on now?
brisk trail
basicially just keep winning runs and you'll get the end!
rough token
getting better at the game xD
tardy slate
Cause I completed a run with shield and bow
rough token
keep going
tardy slate
Okay I guess I'll just use the other weapons lol
rough token
sure
granite ether
play how you want ^_^
tardy slate
Does using different aspects of weapons count?
full abyss
i feel like i am at run 20 and i am in world 3 boss (highest run yet) is that too bad? XD
tardy slate
@full abyss I finished mine at run 38 lol don't worry
granite ether
that's awesome everyone progresses at a different rate
tardy slate
True
full abyss
yeah tbf i feel like i am doing good for my standart since as said first roguelikes XD
left elk
I started my first time playing last week on switch launch on hell mode... my 1st win was #61. Now I've won more than I've lost.
tardy slate
Dang and here I thought mine took hella long
full abyss
i am on normal mode but will definetly try out hell mode
tardy wagon
@full abyss nah that's fine
the game gets harder and harder as you go one with Heat levels and such
full abyss
nah i wanna see how much i will struggle XD
tardy slate
Do you guys have an estimate of how long it'll take for me to reach the true ending?
full abyss
i will finish normal first tho
rough token
@tardy wagon || please tag that number, actually. that is 100% a spoiler ||
tardy wagon
we can't give you a rough estimation on when you'll get the ending
tardy slate
I'm thinking maybe I should play other games too as well since it seems longer than I expected
tardy wagon
Oh ok my bad
rough token
thank you ^.^"
tardy wagon
npz
left elk
Hell mode biggest diffrence is that 4 heat are turned on by default: health, damage, healing, and mob quantity. There is also a 5th heat perk always on that only exists in hell mode, and basically makes it so you can be combo'd to death. You get no invulnerability after damage so no chance to dodge out of a string of hits.
tardy slate
Oh ok thanks!
tardy wagon
Also Coronacht is growing on me more and more with this Demeter/Dionysus cast combo
full abyss
i love ||Curse of Pain|| alot
also i think that ||chaos's|| interactions are the coolest! (my opinion)
left elk
25 attemts now and haven't seen a perfect catch.
full abyss
oh damm ||Thunder Flourish|| on epic is actually really strong
crystal cargo
What are the rules for chaos gates? I decided to do a cosmic egg run and donāt think I have seen a single gate which is a bummer
rough token
@crystal cargo pure RNG
Though you can't get two close to each other
Without buying a Light of Ixion
crystal cargo
Thanks. Makes the keepsake a bit iffy as it can do nothing
vague hornet
anyone have success making a dash attack macro using ds4 and a ps4 controller? had to stop keyboard because dash attacking through 28 runs has done a number on my wrist
surreal beacon
you can still build a streak if you switch weapons
it only cares about successful clears
ah, I see
crystal cargo
Go cast build in melee :p
granite ether
yeah, the same is the case for gems and darkness too, you don't get the contractor bonus
tardy wagon
Shame there's no no hit bonus for clearing encounters/bosses
granite ether
I mean there's a keepsake that does that :3
tardy wagon
True
but in general, clearing the 3 fury fight without getting hit, feels like you deserve a boon or something xD
near comet
question
the shattered shackle
does it only mean god boons or do hammer upgrades count to disable it?
granite ether
it means a boon specifically in the attack, special or cast slot will disable the bonus for the respective slot
near comet
i see.
mystic nexus
In the name of Hades, I swear that the following just happened:
opens infernal trove
completes it very quickly
gets 69 gems
Zagreus: "Nice."
...it COULD be a coincidence.
lament canyon
Question: In regards to spoilers
would talking about something relating to the trinkets count?
because something just happened in my run and it involved a trinket and I dont know where to talk about it
rain cedar
Do you guys have some advice for Forced Overtime ||Hades|| ? I swear he hits me with EVERYTHING! I am having such a hard time. I think I havn't dodged that big sweep move of his once! SInce I have turned forced overtime ||Hades|| has become this almost unclimbable barrier for me and I only get through that Boss if I just kind of tank through š
hard yacht
Please!!!!! The size of the texts on Nintendo Switch are extremely small and it is almost impossible to play in dock mode because it is very difficult to read. Are you going to solve the small size of the texts with an update?
rain cedar
would talking about something relating to the trinkets count?
@lament canyon You can just 'spoiler tag' the spoiler part and just ask here š
You can spoiler tag by marking and selecting it or writing || around the text
chrome blade
Welp! Guess who tried to be a smartass, selling the vortex magic "because I already had the duo with artemis" just to realize now I have the duo that affects a skill that I no longer have 
stark oxide
Hello all! Just wanted to say a huge congrats to the Supergiant team. I just finished watching the fantastic Noclip documentary series on YouTube and it is so clear how much passion and care goes into everything you do. It seems like the added struggles of the pandemic and lockdown were taken in stride and handled with a hugely professional and empathetic attitude. You all are fantastic role models, and I canāt wait to start playing Hades once it has finished downloading! Cheers all š
brisk trail
Whatd the easiest way to defeat ||hades||?
real elm
sorry just a quick question into the blood music on the game is only instrumental ??
anyway to unlock whit the voice as well?
granite ether
all the music from their is instrumental only
real elm
kk ty
brisk trail
For ||hades|| try destroying his weaker summons before going back to wailing on him. This should make it easier
Thnx
wind wedge
Really, every time I've tried that, I've died faster
tranquil cove
Is there any way to check all the lines for all the greater calls?
cause the wiki doesn't have them on quotes
hollow heron
Part of me really wants to go back and mess around with the very first early access build of Hades again
oblique tulip
Imo the best way to kill || hades || w/o later mirror upgrades is just kiting them with ranged setup, preferably explosive-based and using the poseidon-zeus dio
light shadow
any chance that fist aspect that asterius gives is bugged? I'm sure I met all conditions yet nothing happened for many runs
coral verge
it's just RNG
ivory estuary
Every time I go back to the weapon room, only the Adamant Rail lets me upgrade it with TItans Blood. What do I need to do to get other weapons to let me enhance them?
drifting summit
Just switch weapons
The option to upgrade only appears for the weapon you have equipped
ivory estuary
Ah, ty
One other question. Any suggestions for a specific weapon to focus on to kill The End Boss the first time?
I just cant get past em.
coral verge
Shield
light shadow
yeah, shield is slow but reliably lets you to avoid damage
ivory estuary
Will it block anything besides AOE attacks?
drifting summit
Personally I beat it with bow first because that was my most used/comfortable weapon
coral verge
it blocks everything if you're facing the attack
light shadow
coronacht is good
ivory estuary
ty
drifting summit
~I also had 3 death defiance by then but yeah~
ivory estuary
I can only equip 1 aspect of a weapon at once, right?
Suggestions for aspect to focus on for my first win?
light shadow
no never sell rare resources imo
coral verge
Fists at level 5 gives 15% dodge, the Hermes keepsake can bump you to 20-30% extra evade, Hermes boon can give 10 - 20% dodge
drifting summit
Yeah spending Titan's blood is necessary for first win. Keep them for when you have a favourite weapon you wanna upgrade
*isnt
ivory estuary
Thanks. 1 other question. I've been using the skeletons tooth to get +1 life, I only had +2 from the mirror(saving for +3), would you suggest a different keepsake?
I usually make it to Hades only using 1 of them, giving me 2 more extra lives.... then lose them on the End Boss
Sometimes lose one on the third boss.
drifting summit
Acorn might be better for end boss.
indigo nest
I use the worn collar
coral verge
you can just equip Skeleton Tooth at Styx if your life is running low
Broken Spear is great for survival as well
drifting summit
Also if you lose your lives, watch out for the special NPC room on Elysium. He can replenish them
If you're lucky I mean
ivory estuary
Zeus is with me. I started a shield run and out of the gate the buff it offers me was Charged Shot.
Time to kill The End Boss.
wet shore
I have a question, I doubt it is a spoiler but just in case: it is about affection levels: || I got dusa to full hearts, ambrosia, no locks, no nothing left, but her little icon doesn't appear on the harpy feather duster like every other keepsake, and I've talked to her at least 4-6 times more and no new scene or talk has triggered, is this a bug or am I missing a scene? ||
dense sorrel
Hey guys I just got some Titan blood and I wanted t give my shield the Chaos Aspect but when I click on it nothing happens. Does anyone who why this is? Do I have to upgrade all of the aspects in order? Is there a way to get Titan blood back after you use it ie like darkness with the keys?
muted valley
@wet shore i think so
F10 it
@dense sorrel are you ablt to see the menu for upgrading it?
wet shore
thanks
dense sorrel
Yeah I "Reveal" it and it has Zagreus, Chaos...etc. Next to the Chaos it has an unlocked lock and the white 1 titan blood symbol
muted valley
click on the lock,
otherwise f10 it
clicking on the aspect is to select it
not upgrade/unlock it
coral verge
@wet shore ||have you gotten the scene where she tries to return you the ambrosia?||
hexed tiger
where can you see total runs?
dense sorrel
@hexed tiger in the reflecting pool in your room that you get from the House COntractor
hexed tiger
english please
dense sorrel
@muted valley thank you so much for your help
dense sorrel
@hexed tiger have you bought the upgrade from the guy next to Hades
muted valley
its a mistake i have made before multiple times
hexed tiger
no
dense sorrel
@hexed tiger after you do, it should be in your room right before you go to choose your weapon
hexed tiger
thanks
dense sorrel
@hexed tiger np
wet shore
@coral verge || If it is the last one, for sure no, if it happens with one of the previous ones, I can't remember it, but I think that the run when I gave her the ambrosia was just before or during the Queen returns event ||
autumn hornet
Bit of a late game question here, ||I just unlocked the first companion (Meg) and based on her track it seems like this game has romance options. How does that work? One romance per save file? Can you āromanceā multiple characters, are there consequences for doing so?||
gusty slate
The later question is correct, if I recall, no ||consequences I recall||
jolly mantle
||you can romance whoever you like, there's a few lines about how polyamory works for gods||
autumn hornet
Okay neat, ||didnāt want the game to Persona 4 me just cause I want to see everything in one playthrough haha||
midnight granite
Yo, quick question, does the check mark for the house contractor's work orders appear once you've done all the stuff? I'm pretty far in late game, did the missions, and have the ||themes ||but I don't have the check mark, despite having nothing else to buy. Anyone know if you get it once you buy everything?
@frank drift I have the same issue, I think that's a bug
frank drift
undone dagger
I'd just like to say I'm so grateful and happy that this game has been also released on macOS as there's a shortage of good macOS games and this is a great addition!
hushed hamlet
undone dagger
as a person who has a Hackintosh that could run virtually any game, it's particularly frustrating that many games aren't ported (although I know there's an economic cost and often it doesn't make a lot of sense to port)
so it's always a great thing to see
midnight granite
I checked the patch notes and did all the new house contractors stuff
@frank drift I'll report it on tech fixes, maybe I'm wrong and we're missing something random, but it seems to me that it's a bug
hybrid parcel
@hushed hamlet most reviewers took over 30 tries, I think I took 34. don't sweat it!
gusty slate
Try amount doesn't matter all that much, there's a ton of variation on "average"
hollow lark
Once you beat the game the first time you start to be able to do it consistently I think
hybrid parcel
exactly and besides - dying is all part of the fun
gusty slate
As long as you're enjoying the game and slowly getting better that's all we need š
hollow lark
Took me 17 tries to beat the first time but now Iām on a 20 win streak
Practice makes perfect!
And losing doesnāt feel bad usually
dense sorrel
I have only beaten Meg twice. I have done so many runs
hollow lark
Thereās no competition for how quick you beat it the first :)
brisk trail
I like when i became overpowered
One time i beat the game with the duo blessing of athena: regen heart when no ressurection left
It was so dope
hollow lark
You shouldāve seen old adamant rail then lol
Shotgun with explosive shots was absolutely broken af
brisk trail
Aegis is the most op
gusty slate
They buffed Eris if I recall, so wasn't OP evidently
hollow lark
Yea I meant now
Mb
Donāt think the game was even losable with explosive shotgun lmao that dmg was gross and it used to stagger
Was super fun tho
vernal obsidian
Jeff (DLC) has talked a lot about this game
gusty slate
It is losable
granite cove
Can it be that if you choose a certain God. The chances are higher to get him again?
gusty slate
You have a pool of 4 Gods you choose boons from if I recall, so once you pick a boon from them it'll have them in that pool for the run
I don't remember if Hermes is part of that 4 or not
granite cove
So if you have 4 different gods you can not get others?
hollow lark
I think you can get others into the pool by using their keepsakes
gusty slate
You can it'll kick someone out I think
hollow lark
Oh is that how it works interesting
gusty slate
But you need a keepsake yeah
hollow lark
Anyone else find Poseidonās trial in elysium really hard to see
hollow lark
Yea aphro gets me sometimes also
ivory estuary
yeah, shield is slow but reliably lets you to avoid damage
@light shadow > Shield
@coral verge
Woooooooo
Just beat the end boss for the first time š
hollow lark
Ayyyy congrats
hollow lark
Thatās awesome dude :)
ivory estuary
Getting the Daedelu buff that lets you shoot a projectile while blocking right out of the gate uh... helped a lot though. I got it at the very start.
I still had 1 extra life left too!
hollow lark
Thatās amazing dude congrats
Itās really cool to start to find combos that work for you also
Anyone else wish they could take chaos gates even when they donāt have enough hp
Like sometimes Iād rather lose a death defiance for a chaos boon
thick tundra
I really felt the need to make point of how amazing the voice acting is in the game, makes me so happy haha
hollow lark
Itās insane and thereās sooooo many voice lines
pearl sparrow
Can we say that Hades is the most beautiful story driven roguelike ever?
I mean, can we agree on that?
thick tundra
100%, i really hope it grows and is ever evolving, they really hit the nail on the head with it! and ive not heard a single repeat in voicelines yet which is exciting in itself
pearl sparrow
I've played roguelikes before but Hades stands out like the best of all
ivory estuary
Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup challenges you to pistols at dawn, Sir.
Although saying a game is the best game in a genre ever on the discord FOR that game is probably not controversial š
pearl sparrow
I mean:
FTL is a superb and finely crafted game.
Isaac is the king of replayability.
Enter the Gungeon is fun and challenging.
Nuclear Throne is a masterpiece of ragequitting...
And so on and so on and so on
But Hades has done something that no-one has ever done before
sick mortar
daring niche
i was just at the final fight with the guan yu aspact while on Extreme Measures 4
AND MY GAME
CRUSHED
i had 3 death ds left 100% hp
almost did a no hit game
i want to die
pearl sparrow
You lost the progress?
pearl sparrow
So it doesn't keep the last save
gusty slate
game crashed? on PC there's #h1-tech-fixes that can revive a save I heard... but
daring niche
game rolled back
gusty slate
As long as you didn't walk back into bedroom there is apparently a way
gusty slate
Not sure if it still works though
pearl sparrow
Wow, I hope this will never happen on my Switch....
daring niche
that run that crushed
gusty slate
Hopefully not
daring niche
it was 32 heat
pearl sparrow
32???
dusk mantle
Just today I reminded people to take a backup of their .sav files. Although the game itself has a bak file as well.
gusty slate
but you were able to get there, you can do it again š
daring niche
i hope so
gusty slate
No hope, you got this
Can get there once, can do again
Otherwise we wouldn't have beaten the game the first time
pearl sparrow
"you've been slained by Windows 10"
pearl sparrow
They should add that for PC players
daring niche
lmao
gusty slate
The best is when: Windows 10: "I've ran into an error, need to restart now :("
gusty slate
I thought the secret boss was myself
As I was playing against myself
insert big reveal scene that main character gets
opaque nexus
finally I unlocked ||gilgamesh||
daring niche
noice
quaint hatch
Seems like Hell was the friends we made along the way
opaque nexus
very tedious
gusty slate
RNG dialogue has entered
opaque nexus
and im probably only gonna use it like one time
quaint hatch
Yeah nyx still blue balls me on that sword
daring niche
lol
opaque nexus
using rama for the first time is the only time I have actually enjoyed using the bow
daring niche
i agree with u
tardy wagon
Hera Bow is pretty good
opaque nexus
hera is not my cup of tea
tardy wagon
Fair enough
tardy wagon
The only weapon i don't get along with is Exagryph
deep prawn
Hera and the 4th shield aspect donāt even make cast stronger, it just makes them Instacast. Much prefer Achilles spear aspect for cast
quaint hatch
You might wanna try poseidon
opaque nexus
I was gonna say poseidon doesn't buff it but then i remembered it actually does
deep prawn
I keep trying to get that Artemis boon that deals damage when cast are removed with Poseidon, but Iāve never gotten it
quaint hatch
Also poseidon let's you cast more often
And that's what I like to do when focusing casts yk
toxic thunder
Is there a way to access the codex information online, like in a browser? Or do I have to boot up the game to see it
jade crescent
Can someone explain how to get the secret fist aspect? I know itās in the asterius fight, but do you need to have the fists equipped or any other prerequisites?
broken field
i guess theres some influence but i wouldnt say directly inspired
quaint hatch
||5 blood in fists||
raven silo
Disney's Hercules is based on Greek myths, as is the game hades
jade crescent
my magnetic one is maxed I believed, guess I just need to get lucky?
raven silo
Though the movie was popular, so it's entirely likely some concepts exclusive to the movie may have bled over
jade crescent
and I don't need to be wearing them when you face him?
void vigil
he needs to comment on them once, but after that, no
jade crescent
alright I got that text, something about not using a weapon
quaint hatch
After a while he'll ||tell you a phrase||
maiden mulch
Disney's Hercules using the Roman name instead of the Greek name (Heracles) but the Greek names for everyone else bothers me
quaint hatch
I assume I did
shut flicker
Yo idk why but the Achilles hasnāt given me the first hidden aspect
manic bobcat
@maiden mulch didn't they just use popular pronunciation in English
quaint hatch
Rng
ebon quiver
I realize that the Hades Feedback channel is locked. Is there a good place to send feedback? I feel like it would be a good idea for the game to auto-pause on Switch if your controller dies
maiden mulch
he's considered the Roman equivalent, like what Neptune is to Poseidon
solar scarab
raven silo
Please spoiler the ||final boss|| little mount
shut flicker
O sry
manic bobcat
@ebon quiver did you read the pins?
narrow hemlock
are you including zag aspects in your count? they need to be non-zag. someone spent hours yesterday testing this extensively and had consistent results
shut flicker
Does anyone know why Iām not getting the spear aspect?
narrow hemlock
check what I just said
raven silo
Could be you're backed up on dialogue too
gusty slate
RNG dialogue is a usual culprit, but indeed Zag aspects don't count
shut flicker
What are zag aspects lol
raven silo
The first one on each weapon
shut flicker
No Iām not
raven silo
Aspect of zagreus
shut flicker
O ya Iām not
narrow hemlock
it is rng dialogue but it's not as random as we think, and you could still be missing something
shut flicker
What do I need in the fates thing
gusty slate
True tatz
still isle
has the game been bugging out and freezing for you guys too?
narrow hemlock
have you used chiron and achilles aspects in runs per chance
shut flicker
Like do I need it unlocked or need something else with it
still isle
like once every 15 runs or something
it just freezes and you lose progress or it just continues as norml
shut flicker
Idk Iāll just keep playing
jade crescent
i still haven't unlocked the ||charon|| fight, when does that happen? I've already had the credits roll but I've never seen anything behind him or any dialogue related to it
narrow hemlock
there's an extra thing you can pick up on mid biome shops
gusty slate
Mid-biome shops at 20% chance for the special thing to spawn, no?
quaint hatch
You don't unlock it in that way
gusty slate
Not preboss room shops
jade crescent
that's what I would have assumed, but someone said there's dialogue you find in main progression that would unlock that part, still haven't seen it
ebon quiver
@manic bobcat I'm looking around in the pins, but I'm not seeing what I'm trying to find
jade crescent
oh so I have to go out of my way to enter shop rooms
manic bobcat
To post, go to #bot-commands and type ? Early Access
brisk trail
^
ebon quiver
@manic bobcat Ahh, thanks!
jade crescent
is there no dialogue needed then?
jade crescent
alr thanks
ivory estuary
How quick is "quickly" for the Plume trinket requiring you to clear them quickly for a speed buff?
unkempt sleet
There's a timer near the plume when you use it
ivory estuary
ty
hollow lark
yea either does butterfly
queen frigate
Butterfly doesnāt seem worth it.
jade crescent
butterfly damage is kinda mad
sinful pine
imo it's based on getting really good runs on tartarus
you can get >=5% dmg increase out of the gate easy enough
clearing asphodel without damage sounds hellish
queen frigate
Itās just more additive damage though. Thatās nothing compared to a boon upgrade.
hollow lark
You can consistently finish runs with 30%
I believe itās actually multiplicative no?
queen frigate
It is not.
hollow lark
I could be wrong tho
sinful pine
it's a lot of damage
hollow lark
Oh dang
sinful pine
either way
queen frigate
Crit is the only source of multiplicative in the game I believe.
sinful pine
kinda feel like it's just the sweat keepsake
hollow lark
If itās additive then yea itās prob not worth
hollow lark
Butterfly is worth it for the bonus than dialogue
sinful pine
ah yes
bonus tsun dialogue
i want to try a shackle run once
shackle sounds good for just going in every resource chamber you can find
sly basin
does the butterfly damage bonus stay if you take the trinket off later in the run
wise sparrow
hollow lark
Yea you lose it
winter river
does the butterfly damage bonus stay if you take the trinket off later in the run
@sly basin
Both pierced butterfly and lambent plume lose their bonus if you unequip them. You should generally keep them the whole run if you're gonna use them.
winter river
Tbh, I don't think either one is really worth in most cases regardless
queen frigate
Plume is worth if youāre using Zag fists. Otherwise probably not.
hollow lark
Purse start is ridiculous with the new mirror talent
sinful pine
never used any
hollow lark
Nah
still isle
thats one free boon and something
hollow lark
Thatās kinda troll imo
hollow lark
Purse with +15% gold at end of each zone
queen frigate
Golden touch is better if youāre staring with purse imo.
hollow lark
^
hollow lark
But itās literally just more value
still isle
its 0 shops for 2 zones
queen frigate
You definitely donāt have to save everything.
hollow lark
^