||Companions level from ambrosia||
#h1-discussion
fallen violet
warm palm
easiest way to beat last boss the first time?
fallen violet
Shield or bow @warm palm
foggy bough
Gifting nectar, heart ultimate then, I suppose (not Keepsakes, since the 2 are connected), pardon ^^;
fallen violet
yeah
scarlet ice
any weapon works
warm palm
how do you get more titan blood
foggy bough
I like shield, friend likes bow, so it depends on your run and playstile imo
warm palm
u gotta beat him first?
scarlet ice
after beating the final boss the first time you get opportunities to get more blood
otherwise you get them from prophecies
fallen violet
Ok guys
Doing chaos shield run
If I get doom on special from this boon
Its gg
GG
GAMES OVER
scarlet ice
sounds right
fallen violet
time to spam poms into it
warm palm
what are the good hammer upgrades for the shield?
hollow lark
@hallow cargo
fallen violet
Hammer upgrades for the shield?
hollow lark
i just got
warm palm
also, best bow aspect is hiron right?
fallen violet
The one that makes your attack shoot
scarlet ice
explosive return
hollow lark
epic arctic blast
fallen violet
Kinetic shot is pretty good
hollow lark
with coronach
scarlet ice
charged shot is the #1 best shield upgrade
hollow lark
with chill special and +4 speical shots
warm palm
i skip it every time
fallen violet
because casts are strong
warm palm
I see
also do you generally pick a certain gods boon
for the runs
for example if I go shield should I pick zeus boon?
fallen violet
Depends on the situation
Zeus and shield is good at room clearing
bosses not so much
scarlet ice
i prefer chaos's keepsake over guaranteeing another god
hollow lark
chaos keepsake is sick
fallen violet
Like pick your strat first
Do you want your main attack as the damage
or your special
then go from there
scarlet ice
i haven't used chaos's keepsake in a while because i'm trying to focus on leveling up all of the keepsakes
but it's very good
warm palm
prefer the main cause i havent upgraded chaos shield yet
scarlet ice
yes
fallen violet
You could do
Athena run
Get athena attack
deflect everything
spam
or just go raw damage with artemis crits
hollow lark
yea i maxed all keepsakes so i usually just start coin purse then go chaos keepsake
scarlet ice
does the coinpurse give you obol if you put it on in the middle of a run
fallen violet
Go for it
calm bone
how do you beat the final boss with the shield. compared to the other weapons it does almost no damage versus high HP enemies. I mean its probably the best weapon for dealing with encounters, but versus bosses it just seems sooooo bad.
zealous finch
the good thing about teh shield it blocks everything in its parth
fallen violet
You wait for him to attack
then hit
repeat the entire fight
Just block hit block hit
hollow lark
Yea but you should start coin purse so that you get the bonus from the mirror talent
The earlier the better
calm bone
hmm guess I can try that
hollow lark
It blocks everything not nearly lol
zealous finch
i guess im doing it wrong. all im doing it smash my atack and moment i see him attack i just block and full on Attack him again xD
hollow lark
It blocks ||hades laser even lol||
fallen violet
i guess im doing it wrong. all im doing it smash my atack and moment i see him attack i just block and full on Attack him again xD
@zealous finch
Thats literally how you do it
calm bone
I havent used the blocking mechnic at all on the final boss, ive only been using it versus casters.
I'll try it next time
hollow lark
The block is what makes shield playable
hollow lark
Everything is possible on low heat tbh
zealous finch
i mean you can just get the deflect dash buff
fallen violet
Everything is possible on low heat tbh
@hollow lark KEK
zealous finch
without using the shield
fallen violet
Oh god guys
hollow lark
Deflect dash on top of shield tho
hybrid parcel
is there any way to increase the frequency of chaos gates? besides the well of charon item.
fallen violet
I have run into a problem
calm bone
I can usually get to the final boss without even dying once even with 15 heat
hollow lark
Not that I know of Sean
calm bone
but I always get rekt by the final boss with the shield
fallen violet
Getting to final isnt really hard
hybrid parcel
augh
calm bone
I'll try the blocking tho
zealous finch
deflect attack and dash buff + shield blast
hybrid parcel
I have one single chaos boon left in its prophecy but it is just not coming up
fallen violet
I have ares on shield
high seal
just unlocked the final achievment so yay
hollow lark
Wait Sean it’s probably the legendary chaos boon
It’s really hard to get lol it’s kinda annoying
calm bone
also while speaking about the final boss, what exactly does the Blood Boiling do?
hollow lark
Makes you take increased dmg from him
fallen violet
Thought so
calm bone
ahh
fallen violet
20 heat was actually intense
hollow lark
Have you seen the ||spear aspect that does that? It’s the same thing||
scarlet ice
i almost never block with shield and it's still one of my best weapons
fallen violet
Forced overtime makes ||em3 so much harder||
hollow lark
New forced overtime is amazing
scarlet ice
i don't play on high heat though
deep marten
enemy speed up was always the hardest modifier ever since Bastion
zinc nacelle
am i the only one who doesnt care about dialogue and skips most?
fallen violet
Yes
hollow lark
Have you ever done em asterius with 60% movespeed tho... it’s so hard
scarlet ice
i never skip dialogue
calm bone
the only heat ive never tried is the Timed Deadline
scarlet ice
boon dialogue sure. i'll at least read it all first
hollow lark
The story in this game is pretty amazing I usually don’t care about story much
hollow lark
Yea boon dialogue i usually skip
zinc nacelle
many dialogue im skipping normally too
hollow lark
Tight deadline on 5 minutes each is realllyyyy spooky
zinc nacelle
idk
calm bone
does time deadline keep going while you're shopping and deciding what to pick on upgrades?
fallen violet
Yes
calm bone
oooof
calm bone
I take a long time to decide
fallen violet
So pause
hollow lark
When ur in the shop it does but when you click a boon it stops the timer
fallen violet
your game
calm bone
alright
hollow lark
Hiss is wrong
fallen violet
HOW
deep marten
No, it stops
scarlet ice
i would have assumed the TD timer pauses at the same times when the in-game run timer stops
hollow lark
Picking ur boon stops timer
fallen violet
Dude
deep marten
Stops at shops and at boon choice
deep marten
Also stops in the interim areas
fallen violet
So you pause game
hollow lark
In shops it doesn’t stop the timer
fallen violet
Yes
hollow lark
I pause game when I pick my room also
hollow lark
Yea I pause pretty often
deep marten
Well, maybe not shops, not sure about that one
hollow lark
Especially on weapons I’m not as good on
deep marten
Cause I don't often use shops
scarlet ice
charon's shops? probably not
deep marten
It doesn't stop on charon shop
scarlet ice
the well? maybe?? boons it does pause tho
deep marten
I meant on the well
scarlet ice
idk. i would assume it does, because there's text to read
hollow lark
The well it stops time yea
deep marten
It pauses for dialogue
calm bone
alright cool, maybe I'll give time deadline a whirl next run
rain cedar
Man Hades is really beating me down right now. I did perfectly well for the longets time I just kind of dodge spammed a lot with athena dash and DPSed enemies. And since I turned on forced overtime I have been just getting DESTROYED. So I started to try to learn enemy patterns and dodge more precisely and I swear to god I am doing even worse than when I just dodge spam! What is happening? x-D 😩 😆
hollow lark
Forced overtime is much much easier with the changes tbh
Elysium 7 min with other heat things used to be rough
rain cedar
I am getting worse at this game it feels 😆
fallen violet
Man Hades is really beating me down right now. I did perfectly well for the longets time I just kind of dodge spammed a lot with athena dash and DPSed enemies. And since I turned on forced overtime I have been just getting DESTROYED. So I started to try to learn enemy patterns and dodge more precisely and I swear to god I am doing even worse than when I just dodge spam! What is happening? x-D 😩 😆
@rain cedar You need to relearn the game when you start applying harder heat modifiers, it takes time
hollow lark
But now I just build up time
calm bone
on one of my previous games I made it to ||hades|| with a perfect run and had 4 Death Defiances with 15 heat including max movement speed on enemies, but I barely won with 11 hp remain cuz I'm so bad with the sword
zinc nacelle
lmao
zealous finch
All i know is that Shield is fun when doing Heat and have the || deflect|| buff . just run and gun with it 
calm bone
the final boss is jesus
hollow lark
the final boss is the cook
scarlet ice
she finds her body and it's an enormous muscly man
zealous finch
Final boss dusa
@fallen violet Yandere aint she
hollow lark
lmao
zinc nacelle
how is she yundere
calm bone
They should make a secret passage way easter egg where you can fight Odin as the final boss instead
hollow lark
the bonus cthonic companion from the well is so op with ||bouldy||
fallen violet
Hold on looking up the right type of dere
hollow lark
yandere
solar abyss
electric shot doesn't stick in them does it? for +50% damage?
rain cedar
@rain cedar You need to relearn the game when you start applying harder heat modifiers, it takes time
@fallen violet Seems that way. It's really funny. I had this Moment where I just ran through the normal game on release (I did paly beta before) and added like single modifiers and it felt basically the same. Middle management was fun but not too but once I turned on forced overtime it feels like nothing I learned about teh game works anymore 😆 Absolutely weird it'S 25% speed increase but it seems all my game senses are just gone through that it seem ^^
fallen violet
Yeah, it really do be like that
||EM3 is pretty challenging, made me feel like I was trash when I lost to it||
hollow lark
||EM4 is ridiculouslly hard i didnt expect it to be so hard||
calm bone
I think Extreme Measures makes the game easier because Theese and the Mino are SO much harder in their base form
calm bone
If I dont have Extreme Measures cranked up to the max I lose like 3 Death Definaces in a row on him
rain cedar
||Daddy is serious on EM4 
||
fallen violet
HOW
hollow lark
theseus is much easier lol and asterius is much harder
fallen violet
asterius is much harder with Extreme Measures
Theseus does nothing the entire fight
How is regular harder
calm bone
When you have Extreame Measures cranked up Theseus just drives around thowing bombs at the wall and doesnt even bother you really
fallen violet
Theseus does nothing in the base fight anyway
calm bone
but when you have it turned on he throws spears at you like every 5 seconds
cobalt maple
i can miss a dodge on spears
cobalt maple
but there's not much to dodge
cobalt maple
with EM
calm bone
I think its easier to dodge bombs than spears
cobalt maple
i jsut stay behind pillars lol
fallen violet
The reason Extreme measures 3 is harder is because Asterius is a unit
calm bone
It makes lets me focus the mino in peace if it is cranked up to the max
fallen violet
His shockwaves have a lingering hitbox
rain cedar
That was a funny Moment same run I first turned on Forced overtime I met Asterius for teh first time since I fought him WAY back without heat. No middle management either back then. And I went in 'oh it's one of the easy mini Bosses!' and he proceded to absolutely demolish me 😆
fallen violet
And his charge is really quick
calm bone
Im just so bad at the spears
rain cedar
He always has thet ONE funky shockwave when you think 'I absolutely dodges his slam jump attack' that still gets you
solar abyss
the multi shockwaves make the fight feel kind of random sometimes
rain cedar
Another question I sometimes get rooms where it continously spawns in 'ghost' versions of enemies that die in 1-2 hits but they keep spawning. Is that an Elite modifier? 
rain cedar
got it I assume I gotta destroy teh host?
hollow lark
you hav to kill the original guy
fallen violet
Missed dialogue opportunity with Than
fervent crystal
How many hours of Voice work was recorded for Hades?
rain cedar
got it thnx ❤️
hollow lark
when you hav lvl 2 benefits package and you get the skulls spawning ghosts and they give each other dmg shields its ROUGH
rain cedar
got it thnx ❤️
@rain cedar Not sure in hours but I believe they said smth like 14.000 lines of Dialogoe
Dialoge
fervent crystal
dang
jagged ivy
does god mode cap at 100%? Never upgraded it that far so I was wondering how far it goes
fallen violet
Hades is an amazing game
jagged ivy
if anyone has died a lot with god mode on then please lmk
rain cedar
I have 42 hours in Hades and I believe I have had maybe 2 repeat line... and even those might not be repeats but just due to me Rage ALT F4ing out once or twice 
fallen violet
72 hours since early access
I stopped playing for awhile
then new content came in
inner arrow
Sorry for the interrupt, just curious if anyone knows.. How does Ravenous Will (more damage dealt and less taken when you have no casts) work with weapons that load the cast into the weapon? If they're loaded, do I "have" them?
hollow lark
just did em3 with -50% dash distance cus of chaos lmao
rain cedar
I first was disapointed that there was no further act and though there was no new content for 1.0. Then I started to delve into heat and boy was I wrong 😛
north canyon
How many times do I need to beat Hades?
fervent crystal
started the game on hell mode and its hard
rain cedar
Sorry for the interrupt, just curious if anyone knows.. How does Ravenous Will (more damage dealt and less taken when you have no casts) work with weapons that load the cast into the weapon? If they're loaded, do I "have" them?
@inner arrow Well it's a usefull skill with any cast you want to kinda 'fire alll and forget'
fervent crystal
the proble is I am so deep into it I dont want to astart a normal save file, lol
fallen violet
LOL
fervent crystal
gotta git gud and stick with it
calm bone
Doesnt Hell mode only force you to use a few Punishments? or does it does something else on top of that?
fallen violet
||Favorite companion and why?||
rain cedar
As far as I know it just forces you to start at 5+ Heat
north canyon
How many times do I need to beat the final boss?
inner arrow
It also adds Personal Liability, which removes the Imprevious shield you get when you take big hits
fallen violet
How many times do I need to beat the final boss?
@north canyon Lots, its a long road buddy
north canyon
damn
rain cedar
How many times do I need to beat the final boss?
@north canyon For what? For the credits ending? Also pls spoiler tag the Name of teh final Boss 🙂 ❤️
fallen violet
Credits takes a good amount of wins
solar abyss
People who can't guess who the final boss is 
rain cedar
It's not redicolous but it's more than once or twice. Do you really want to know the exact number and spoil the surprise? 🙂
calm bone
The final boss is Odin
rain cedar
queen marsh
i'd say is some number between 1 and 90
ivory estuary
Hey, I have 9 titan blood but not actually had a chance to uh, spend it. How do I do that?
queen marsh
well 30 is between 1 and 90
rain cedar
Yourself
@fallen violet deep (and true my final boss is my own impatiencein this game and me button mashing) 😛
Hey, I have 9 titan blood but not actually had a chance to uh, spend it. How do I do that?
@ivory estuary Once you unlock all the weapons something happens where you use Titans Blood
fallen violet
keys
opaque bough
how did you get to 9 titan's blood without unlocking the last one whew
rain cedar
It shows up on it's own after a while you need keys
fallen violet
I'm pretty sure
rain cedar
how did you get to 9 titan's blood without unlocking the last one whew
@opaque bough I know a guy with like 40 runs (not sure how many escapes) and he ONLY uses 1 weapon because he loves it
didn't even unlock the rest
opaque bough
I mean, fair
calm bone
rip
rain cedar
Had to tell him to do it
opaque bough
but on a blind playthrough you at least gotta try all of em
rain cedar
He's single minded like that
calm bone
If they ever add more weapons they should try a Whip
rain cedar
I think a slow high dmg melee would also be fun
calm bone
yea like a Hammer
rain cedar
all we have is fast melee or slow & fast range
calm bone
Big Hammer
rain cedar
exactly where it's less about atatck spam and more about positining for big slams
You could use it with poseidon or Ares for doom or BIG Artemis critties ^^
opaque bough
a big hammer
rain cedar
I am still hoping we will get some extra super endgame Bosses and stuff in a year or so but we'll see
calm bone
Big Black Hammer
opaque bough
and the hidden aspect could be a big jawbone in reference to biblical Samson
rain cedar
Dead Cells got expanded a lot after 1.0 ❤️
solar abyss
bosses are immune to knockback?
opaque bough
yes but Poseidon has a nifty boon that makes you feel less bad for investing in him
solar abyss
The rupture one? Does that work?
opaque bough
I assume it applies rupture so when the boss moves themselves it should work
solar abyss
Also.. literally every time I take chaos egg in an area I find no chaos portal
livid ivy
Hey, is anyone having trouble with some achievements?
I swear I bought a LOT of Well of Charon items but I still don't have it completed
flat vapor
bosses aren't immune to knockback but they do have a noticeable resistance to it
toxic star
I swear I bought a LOT of Well of Charon items but I still don't have it completed
@livid ivy just check the prophecy and look whats missing
opaque bough
most "do common thing X times" achievements you should just ignore, they'll come naturally when trying for the specific ones
toxic star
been feeling off about some achievements too, for sure
maybe you need to buy 9 different things from the well in one run, instead of having duplicates in there?
livid ivy
I think I did that too but I couldn't be as sure
I recall specifically buying everything from every time I crossed a Well
My other question: do the keepsakes have to be all at lvl 3 for the achievement? Cause I have them all already
And that one's harder to replicate lmao
toxic star
which achievement?
livid ivy
"Something for Everyone"
mellow finch
@livid ivy ||How many keepsakes do you have? You might be missing one.|| And yes, all of them need to be at lvl3.
toxic star
are you sure about the level 3 part?
livid ivy
No, i'm not missing any. I'll level them up then
toxic star
cuz i have that achievement
toxic star
and im pretty sure i never had all on level 3 on a single safe
toxic star
@livid ivy https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2231460116 this might be interesting for you, might see spoilers in there too though, so be warned
mellow finch
How do you know that you're not missing any, btw?
livid ivy
cause there's a mark for every keepsake that's not obtained?
mellow finch
Okay, look at this at your own risk: ||The last keepsake doesn't have such a mark||
livid ivy
Oh, alright
jagged cape
finally finished the game stupid question may have even been asked but what are the chances of a hades boon
or persephone
toxic star
the chances of a boon like that getting added?
mellow finch
They don't have boons that you can find during a run. At least in 1.0.
jagged cape
yea im wondering fi theyll ever add a hades boon
opaque bough
is this spoiler territory?
jagged cape
idk what they would do with it tho but then again they made a boon on the god of wine and love
mellow finch
I'm wondering that also...
toxic star
don't think it is
is this spoiler territory?
dapper egret
i lost my save ?
opaque bough
I mean the whole ||hades boon|| thing might've been
dapper egret
i got a back up of my old saved game on google drive but i cant recover my old save
mellow finch
@dapper egret Go to #h1-tech-support if you need help with that.
dapper egret
@mellow finch thanks man
fallen violet
Shield plus ares is wtf
I just deleted Theseus and Asterius
I accidently triggered Theseus' second phase while Asterius was still alive
so much damage
hollow lark
It’s crazy if you get repeated doom application deals bonus dmg on shield special it helps with bosses while also letting you destroy rooms
fallen violet
Thats exactly what I have
hollow lark
And then impending doom
hollow lark
Yesssssssp
fallen violet
and I have doom on attack
elfin haven
Is there a way to open the two doors in the lounge?
hollow lark
It’s not necessary but it’s very nice
maiden marsh
every new line of dialogue i'm like "how is there more dialogue that's in the game"
fallen violet
whats crazy is
maiden marsh
it genuinely is magical to me
fallen violet
Unlike other rogue games, the story is fun
toxic star
agree, there's gotta be sooo much text behind that
flat vapor
having your main voice actor be the same person as your composer and sound director helps :v
but also, lots and lots of dedication
opaque bough
the amount of ridiculously specific dialogue is mad
hollow lark
the story is amazing
hollow lark
also athena special with ||lucifer gun|| is hilarious
fallen violet
Ok so I talked to skelly about something earlier
And I was like meh whatever
then zag brought it up later
in my run
talking to asterius
Like ????????????????
Actual pog
toxic star
ngl, i love that one shade that cheers for Zag in the elysium arena
opaque bough
pearl sparrow
So.... I'm playing at 2 heat gauge without completing the bounties for the 1 heat gauge. I beat the first boss and it didn't give me the blood but just purple diamonds....
Why?
hollow lark
Purple diamonds?
fallen violet
darkness
hollow lark
Oh lol
fallen violet
Not sure why it gave you darkness
solar abyss
Purple diamonds lmao
toxic star
you can't skip heat runs, if you finish the first boss on heat 1 and up the heat by one, its still gonna be the progress of the 1 heat run
So.... I'm playing at 2 heat gauge without completing the bounties for the 1 heat gauge. I beat the first boss and it didn't give me the blood but just purple diamonds....
@pearl sparrow
magic comet
Probably you haven't completed all bounties for 1 heat and already claimed blood for heat 1
hollow lark
^^^^
pearl sparrow
Argh!
solar abyss
Is erebus gateway worth?
hollow lark
Yes
fallen violet
You can totally skip heats
pearl sparrow
I have to finish each single heat gauge run?
hollow lark
Yea but if you win you only get the heat from 6
toxic star
yes, but you won't skip the bounties
hollow lark
By doing that
fallen violet
so?
I still got the stuff
I can just replay the lower heats
up until 20
and do it again
hollow lark
You don’t get the rewards is the point even tho it’s harder
pearl sparrow
But still I didn't get any blood
fallen violet
I know that
pearl sparrow
For Hades' sake
toxic star
yea
hollow lark
Like if you want you can do heat 20 20 times or you can do it the easier way and match each heat but obviously it’s just up to you
magic comet
If you need to have heat eg. 5 to get then it doesn't matter if you play on 5, 6 or 50 you get rewards for 5
toxic star
you can always go harder on heat 
steel flicker
It shows in the pact before the run whether you'll get the bounties or not.
opaque bough
depending on your mirror upgrades to maximize your winning chances you wanna do stuff you already cleared
since healing off Darkness is pretty good
toxic star
The music in this game is also sick af
@hollow lark did you hear orpheus sing ||Eurydice's Song?||
loved that
hollow lark
Yea it’s awesome
fallen violet
@hollow lark Check victory boasting
solar abyss
What the heck does aspect of eris do on exagryph. Wht does it mean to absorb special
vernal dove
Have the devs considered twitch chat integration just like Warhammer vermintide does for in game options? The game is blown up on twitch right now and this would make it blow up even more. How can we make sure that they at least consider the idea?
fallen violet
absorb it
hollow lark
Oof special being common makes me sad
fallen violet
@solar abyss Bomb yourself
warm palm
Piercing volley/explosive shot or triple shot? with aspect of chiron
opaque bough
stand in your bombs AoE
hollow lark
If it was higher that would’ve been gross
fallen violet
yeah it was sad at first
opaque bough
not recommended with the "it can now hurt you" upgrade
fallen violet
still destroyed him
hollow lark
Eris aspect is incredible
solar abyss
Okay
warm palm
which one is better for the bow?
solar abyss
Does aspect of hestia require you to press r? It doesn't work for automatic reloads?
opaque bough
it's fun with shotgun upgrade though
since the first blast ignores the range reduction
so you can just pump shoot pump shoot for... mediocre dps
stark shell
What's with the hades devs not having an end run button?
opaque bough
it's called Give Up
wind wedge
...wait, what do you want then?
opaque bough
you wanna save and resume? then you can just Quit right?
toxic star
just get yourself killed then
wind wedge
You can stop at any time and return to a run with Quit
stark shell
Gotta make me stand here and let a whisp wail on me to kill me to end the run without losing trinket progress
its lame
lol
stark shell
Just give me a button~ Like, ya know, every other game.
wind wedge
I can think of a bunch of games which don't have that button 🙂
toxic star
wouldn't call it lame tho i've missed a button like that too already
opaque bough
well first of all it wouldn't make sense from a narrative perspective
wind wedge
games can still have a narrative logic
opaque bough
that respects itself and the rules it sets
stark shell
Yea, and I can still kill myself and reappear in the styx
opaque bough
Zagreus only gets back to Hades by dying
wind wedge
It's not like it takes long, to be fair.
opaque bough
it's like 20 seconds considering 1ups this really isn't an issue
stark shell
Just a, "huh. why not."
wind wedge
Great, so the game doesn't need a button for it then 😉
sly basin
well I have been in the situation where I needed 1 encounter to level a trinket and i wanted to start the run with that trinket but trying to get killed on the first level is kinda hard
stark shell
No it doesn't need one, but I think it would be better with one.
opaque bough
what sort of animation would it have
stark shell
Your only argument against it is that it's only mildly inconvenient to accomplish the result
opaque bough
just Zag pushing a knife in his chest or something?
stark shell
The same as every other death animation lol
you click kill, and then you die for no reason
opaque bough
"I have decided that I want to die"
opaque bough
Well I'm new from 1.0 so not really no
stark shell
Glad to see that even new players will vehemently defend their views on a game~
It's inspiring really
opaque bough
Also why would being new make my opinion matter less?
toxic star
yall are entertaining, ngl 
opaque bough
there's a whole channel for suggestions
toxic star
^
opaque bough
toxic star
Just post your idea there
opaque bough
you went into #h1-discussion and are surprised that we discussed it?
stark shell
And this is also the channel for discussion. Which is what we're doing
opaque bough
yeah but the discussion is getting quite defensive which isn't necessary
it's not a bad suggestion by any means
stark shell
Who's defensive?
gusty slate
Oh I just popped in
opaque bough
and it'd lead to more funny Hypnos lines
toxic star
while i'd like to have a button like that, i can just start a run without death defiance and high heat damage if i only wanted to finish a few encounters before i die
queen wharf
For "A Place of Revelry" quest, do I get credit for it right when I make enough renovations, or do I have to trigger the appropriate dialogue with the related character first?
gusty slate
Wait what does that quest entail again?
Oh that one, I believe you have to get certain dialogue yes
After enough renovations
Lounge, right?
queen wharf
Renovate the Lounge, I did some research and it said like 12?
gusty slate
Sounds about right, need to hit RNG dialogue with the specific person || || now I believe
queen wharf
That's the one. Gotcha, thanks.
gusty slate
Good 'ol RNG dialogue amirite
alpine tulip
what would you guys say is the best cast for the Hera aspect?
opaque bough
Just got offered blood for 15 keys and I scrounged for as many as I could
ended at 13
fallen violet
ready for this
fallen violet
DUDE
SAME
Overwatch was so good for awhile
Why cant I put my picture in here
mad
fallen violet
Right?
fair dove
Lol
toxic star
Maybe overwatch but that was a toxic addiction
@fair dove cs for me, and still is a toxic addiction
fair dove
Yea
fair dove
I played support. Moira ana lucio brig
scarlet ice
i think the last time a game hooked me like this was hollow knight
and before that idk what it was
scarlet ice
a masterpiece of a game just like this one
fallen violet
Best boss in the game was Mantis Lords
mellow finch
And that's why you don't take the pauper curse. Or maybe that's just my love of obols speaking.
fallen violet
Easy
weary owl
I don't really know where to ask this so I'll throw it here, can anyone tell me how to unlock the final aspect for the weapons? I've been trying for ages and I'm starting to think I'm doing something wrong
mellow finch
Look at the pinned messages in #h1-story-discussion @weary owl
mellow finch
That's the summary, yeah.
mellow finch
The pin has more detailed instructions.
scarlet ice
shovel knight is very good
fallen violet
The collection is 40 dollars
scarlet ice
maybe 8
fallen violet
Ok I'll buy it
scarlet ice
if you like that kind of platformer then you should definitely like it
fallen violet
Yeah
Hollow Knight was
UGH
SO GOOD
Indescribable gameplay experience
you cant get anywhere else
scarlet ice
i didn't like it as much as hollow knight but it's definitely one of the greats for indie games
like, there's a good reason shovel knight cameos everywhere
and i haven't heard anything bad about the game
fallen violet
kek
Bad game because not enough shovels
0/10
"Main character isn't a shovel, what a letdown"
mellow finch
I think this might be a discussion more suited for #video-games
verbal wraith
god this game is so good isnt it
toxic star
Hollow Knight was
@fallen violet the controls were meh tho
verbal wraith
i havent been this addicted in a long time
toxic star
I think this might be a discussion more suited for #video-games
agree*
fallen violet
True
Ima go find who asked tho
jk
Alright lets talk about hades
Worst encounter you can think of, go
Like make one up
max 5 enemies
gusty slate
Anything in Elysium?
fallen violet
KEK
I got it
1 blue crystal
4 shield bearers
with double benefits package
Both healing
gusty slate
9/17, according to announcements
mellow finch
that date sounds about right
fallen violet
and you die
fair dove
9/17, according to announcements
@gusty slate nice almost ten days now
The switch displays play time after 10 days of playing
gusty slate
Wait, it's only been 9-10 days o.O?
fair dove
So I’ll be able to see how many hours
mellow finch
Nah, feels like way longer considering the amount of time I've put into it
opaque bough
PC with some sort of joystick set up is probably superior
mellow finch
since then
fallen violet
Make a punishment modifier that you have to purchase something every floor
But prices are 40% higher
and increase 5% per floor
and you cant use coin keepsake
fair dove
PC with some sort of joystick set up is probably superior
@opaque bough have u talked to @terse geyser
fallen violet
or mirror talent
gusty slate
but what if I no haz monies
mellow finch
There's already the purging of boons one, I think this is too similar
zinc nacelle
jesus
zinc nacelle
farming those things for leveling aspects is kinda really grindy right?
fallen violet
It is
gusty slate
Blood, yeah
unkempt yew
I had a run just today, in which i hit 3.8k monies
fallen violet
DANG
zinc nacelle
yea blood
fallen violet
Money bags over here
gusty slate
Took me ~150 hours to never need blood again
unkempt yew
think i would've been fine
zinc nacelle
i dont even know what weapon i want to level..
zinc nacelle
i just leveled everything once...
mellow finch
I'm just levelling them evenly now
zinc nacelle
and im out
mellow finch
nah
fallen violet
yeah
zinc nacelle
:/
gusty slate
Some work best at max though sadly
zinc nacelle
not as simple
fallen violet
😄
mellow finch
plus you get more bounties for every wepon
fallen violet
Very simple
gusty slate
Did you see my titan blood trick? Might be too late
Well I guess in your case it might not help? Hmmm
zinc nacelle
okay
gusty slate
I tested the mechanics of each aspect to see if I could use it properly
zinc nacelle
what about gun vs bow?
fallen violet
Depends
zinc nacelle
opinions
zinc nacelle
i feel like i like gun more for now
gusty slate
I prefer Rail, the charging up on bow feels too tedious for me
zinc nacelle
what i know i dont like is sword
gusty slate
which must be why I like Hera LOL
zinc nacelle
the rest idk
fallen violet
When I hit a meaty special on Aspect of Demeter for fists
zinc nacelle
and gun better than bow
mellow finch
Well, now I know why I sometimes have 200+ message in a channel after leaving for a bit. Because people split up a single post into 4 or 5.
zinc nacelle
wtf
gusty slate
I see, so you like the gun, any other weapons stand out?
fallen violet
Sword 4th aspect is really fun
zinc nacelle
aspect on gun so important
fallen violet
Extremely fun
gusty slate
That or Eris is solid for a start
unkempt yew
i love hestia
zinc nacelle
when i started the game i really liked spear but now idk
unkempt yew
artemis hestia for them juicy crits
zinc nacelle
if i like the dmg
gusty slate
That's fair
gusty slate
Ah, in what way?
zinc nacelle
idk lol
gusty slate
Happens lol
For Fist, Demeter aspect is popular
And for gun as you can see there are all sorts of opinions
gusty slate
You should have the aspects available other than the 4ths
warm palm
hey guys, anyone can tell me how to unlock the secret aspects?
zinc nacelle
i only have the 1st on all weapons
gusty slate
Yeah, that's default
You have to use blood to get another aspect
but the default Zag aspects are fine to use, cheaper to max
gusty slate
Uh, should be able to click the smaller button with the blood icon on it to unlock assuming you have the right amount of blood
gusty slate
Weird
zinc nacelle
^hmmm
left idol
Hi I just missed the hades sale one eshop dose anyone know of will go on sale soon? Thanks looks good
gusty slate
Might be on sale during holiday
fallen violet
what did I miss
gusty slate
But game just released v1.0 so it's really up to devs when it'll go on sale
fallen violet
I had to get chicken dinner
left idol
Cool
unkempt yew
2030
gusty slate
because they the best
unkempt yew
facts
misty sierra
am I the only one running into ||hades’ green ring|| attacks being invisible sometimes. this has happened before and just killed me
calm bone
sometimes they come from the boss himself
quaint wind
@misty sierra please ||spoiler the last boss's name||
real geyser
This might be a silly question - but if this game was to be speedrunned, what would you guys consider the point to start from? Since Nyx's mirror + the weapon upgrades can make huge differences in the time it takes for a run to finish
I'm kind of thinking if there ever was a speedrun it should start from a blank save-file, but idk
mellow finch
There are already several categories for speedruns.
real geyser
dang already? This game came out like a week ago
mellow finch
One is "fresh file" where you have to finish your very first run with the sword.
misty sierra
yeah it came from the boss and it was invisible
it just. wasn’t visible and I took 35 from nothing
mellow finch
It has been out in early access for a while.
flat vapor
speedrun rules can be found here: https://www.speedrun.com/hades
real geyser
oh you right
narrow hemlock
game has been in early access since dec 2018
indigo plover
w only 1 blood spent
mellow finch
People have been doing runs on prior updates also.
real geyser
I completely forgot this game was an early access game too
I just got it at launch, game is good
opaque nexus
||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392070250511728653/759555500618022942/unknown.png || YOOOOO
115 hours
wooden flame
when hades dlc 😎 ?
mellow finch
@opaque nexus congrats! Now to find the other 2.
opaque nexus
no
real geyser
also dang.... 8 mins is the WR
indigo plover
i cant catch fish
real geyser
that's pretty good
real geyser
I wanna say my best time is like 22 minutes lol
wooden flame
wow 8 minutes is crazy
indigo plover
going into my like 8th redacted run, i've only been able to do it w bow so far
real geyser
shaving off that much time is kinda insane
indigo plover
ive seen 6 mins on YT?
mellow finch
Probably for earlier patches then.
real geyser
would make sense the full release would be its own category. I heard a lot was changed
opaque nexus
my best time is a little under 14
meager falcon
i know this is off topic but is there a place i can find the little chibi versions of character bonds?
indigo plover
its kinda not that hard onceyou watch them a few times but yea cant tlak my only times are 31 mins
wooden flame
mine is 14
real geyser
that's super good 😮
mellow finch
Yeah, 1.0 reset all the categories. But the previous run times are still archived for their respective patches.
indigo plover
i need to get building down better w keepsakes i keep having lacklustre builds at redacted
wooden flame
it couldve been lower but i had to kill elysium with just dashes T_T
indigo plover
yea 14 is good ive seen top guys w 14 as their best w spear
i forget who i was watching yest
wooden flame
elysium boss*
indigo plover
he has a lot of content
wooden flame
i dont like fists that much u_u
wooden flame
i thought i would like the hidden fist aspect but still feels wrong somehow, i end up getting beaten way more than with other weapons
or well not beaten but i lose the most health
brisk trail
THIS GAME IS HOT GARBAGE
clear owl
Can anyone explain the machinery that was added in the transition areas? I don't think I've seen anything else like it in the game
wooden flame
i think it was just added
brisk trail
yes
narrow hemlock
fallen violet
Called it
wooden flame
xddd
clear owl
just play for 100 hours and it gets easier
wooden flame
i saw someone beating them on their second run ever but dying to the rats
brisk trail
SHHHHHHH~~
STOP SPOILING IT
rats?
there are more floors after those two peices of sh.it?
wooden flame
we are not able to talk about mobs on the game 🤔 ?
mellow finch
If that's a spoiler for you then we shouldn't answer.
Well yeah, if those mobs appear late.
brisk trail
BRUH
mellow finch
There are some encounters in this game that are pretty hidden.
brisk trail
ok i guess ill keep torturing myself
narrow hemlock
theres a swear filter for a reason 
wooden flame
not talking about bosses tho
mellow finch
There are even some minibosses that are a bit rare. And regular encounters might of course be spoilers for people who haven't gotten that far yet.
brisk trail
she takes a few health points from both my character and myself too
mellow finch
Yup, expected that one.
fallen violet
Go sit in the corner
golden adder
bonk
deep pivot
@brisk trail Please don't use that kind of words to describe the game characters 
worthy egret
Blackguard.
wooden flame
mellow finch
dude, you literally got your message removed for that, and the rules spell out that vulgarity is a no no on this server
I wouldn't push it too far.
wooden flame
romans are gone
serene breach
can't swear if you're gone, that's for sure
wooden flame
we got italians now
tepid yacht
Please follow the rules