I just embrace traps as a way of life
#h1-discussion
silent pumice
I have now successfully converted two of my friends to our little cult here. Feels pretty good.
Through sheer force of not shutting up about how great it is.
analog elbow
Congrats!
gusty slate
We're not a cult... I swear
raven horizon
My coworker came in the other day and just stared at me and said two words to me
analog elbow
Thank you?
raven horizon
“Hades, switch.” And thus, I knew my time had come.
Sending my switch to the underworld was quite entertaining, though I misunderstood his reference of Hades. 
hollow hazel
I told my co-worker about Hades the other day. not two days later he comes up to me and says "I hate you. I sold my soul." and then proceeded to tell me about how I informed him about it and how he hasn't stopped playing it since he got it.
raven horizon
Though, for someone hesitant of PC to console ports, they did really well with Hades.
Oh mine had to tell me to shut up today cause I wouldn’t shut up about Dusa.
raven horizon
“Twelve hours later”
hollow hazel
that's how I end up still awake at 6 in the morning when I need to be up for work at 8.
brisk trail
Then you look at your bed like Zag and go "Nope, I'm wide awake"
nimble ocean
guess, that's an indicator of quality
analog elbow
The game is really addicting
raven horizon
Also, is it just me or is Orpheus frieza?
analog elbow
When I first started what kept me going was Well, now I want to know what they'll say next!
raven horizon
That’s me right now
supple field
I got the game on the 17th and I've logged a total of 42 hours
carmine ravine
isnt thats the whole point of storytelling
raven horizon
I’m just like “MORE, GOTTA LEARN MORE”
analog elbow
It certainly is!
Especially in combination with the excellent, gameplay, music, and art!
raven horizon
I’d say that’s kind of a feat tho, still. There are some games out there I just skip through the interactions, cause boring.
brisk trail
Sometimes Zag will make a comment about what killed him and it's different than what I thought killed me. Like "wait, what? of all the stuff in that room, I got tagged by a stray skull?!"
gusty slate
"I hate that Hydra." Me too Zag, me too.
raven horizon
And then you talk to hypno and he’s like “yeaaah I remember when I used to stand around like an idiot too”
gusty slate
-after dying 10+ times to Hydra
brisk trail
No joke, the very first time I killed the Hydra, I had 1 HP and I accidentally stepped into the lava near the boat leading out
Facepalmed myself pretty hard
analog elbow
Oh noo! lol
gusty slate
I feel that on all levels
analog elbow
Big oof right there
gusty slate
-I absolutely did not do that-
supple field
i have a random question, does anything happen if you lose your escape streak besides a loss of pride
analog elbow
Nothing happens
brisk trail
What made it even funnier was that Zag acted like the Hydra killed him. Poor bloke was in denial of his own (my) stupidity
hollow hazel
oof, that's gotta be heartbreaking, but at least you got the prize for beating the hydra lol
Lernie is Bae though, sorry haters.
supple field
ok thanks radish
gusty slate
Good thing my pride is nearly nonexistant
terse geyser
lernie is pretty cute
supple field
cerbie my fav
raven horizon
I don’t think I’ve met lernie yet
gusty slate
"I live to hear your hiss"
raven horizon
Dusa stole my heart pretty much immediately
brisk trail
That's because she has no body and lacks her own heart
terse geyser
the summon version is kinda blobby and weird, but standard, slammy, and piercing wave lernie are all super cute
I like them
granite ether
Kite, The Bone Hydra ||eventually gets nicknamed Lernie by Zag||
supple field
^that happened to me the run before i joined this server lmao
brisk trail
I've yet to actually die to the hydra. It's the easiest boss for me. By the time I reach it, I already have a build capable of melting it
ember flame
Ugh I just lost nearly 2 health bars from Aphrodite being pissed and the boon was 100% not worth it 
magic canyon
does dionysus' Strong drink work @ satyr fountain?
gusty slate
The end fountain sure, not the small ones
raven horizon
I killed the hydra on my first go and got slaughtered by him every attempt after, we didn’t get off on a good foot.
hollow hazel
tbh Zag is just such a good protagonist, like, he's not a bad person, he's genuine, he's sarcastic, and he knows how to have fun dying
brisk trail
My first wall was Meg. She killed me 6-7 times in a row when I first started
Her smugness is still etched into my brain
supple field
am i the only one who's least used/liked weapon is coronacht? idk why i dont like it even though bows are usually one of my go to's
brisk trail
Bow is currently my favorite weapon
hollow hazel
Same.
gusty slate
Bow and spear are my most clumsy weapons
raven horizon
Coronacht is like the only weapon I’m good with lol
analog elbow
Ugh I just lost nearly 2 health bars from Aphrodite being pissed and the boon was 100% not worth it
@ember flame It's the risk you take when spitting the gods! Now you know what the greeks went through
junior wave
I will say... one of the downsides of having played this game so many times is that now there's new endgame content, the amount of runs I've completed so far doesn't grant me even a little bit more of that endgame content. I basically need to do a lot of runs all over again.
But that is a very, very minor complaint, and I don't see any other way they could have done it
raven horizon
Kratos knows a thing or two about splitting gods
gusty slate
The grind is pretty long
brisk trail
Dash shooting with the bow, getting all perfect charge shots, basically just no-scoping entire rooms
is so frickin satisfying
gusty slate
but it'll keep you occupied for that much longer lol
hollow hazel
it's prob my fave as well.
supple field
varatha is my most used, followed by stygius, malphon, aegis, exagryph, then coronacht ¯_(ツ)_/¯
junior wave
I want to spoil myself about what more there is to see, but I also know I shouldn't
raven horizon
Which one would you say is most beginner friendly?
gusty slate
That depends on the person tbh
We could recommend bow, but they prefer melees lol
Shield maybe
brisk trail
Yeah...some people think the bow is clumsy and difficult, but it was the first weapon that really clicked with me
supple field
well my first run ever i got the one thing from the Daedalus hammer where your health gets slashed but you get life steal. went really well but i got rekt by meg i think
here i go attempting an escape with coronacht which i've used only 2 times before 🙂
analog elbow
I think there's a weapon for everyone in Hades, so keep trying them out!
brisk trail
The hardest for me is fists because I get way too greedy. I'll get up in an enemy's face and forget to dodge attacks lol
supple field
my one successful escape with coronacht i didnt even end up using it (much) after the hydra bc i had a bunch of poseidon boons that let me kill enemies by slamming into them with my dash or into walls LMAO
gusty slate
My first clear was fist
ember flame
I tend to get farthest with shield; after that spear. Probably the worst with fists.
hollow hazel
my friend is the same way @brisk trail he loves the fists, but it gets him killed because he just likes pummeling the enemy and tends to forget survival is a key mechanic in the game too lol
gusty slate
I facetank, with calculations of course
supple field
my first escape was with stygius at run number 20 😭
analog elbow
I think I used the shield to win for the first time
It just goes to show that everything is usable
brisk trail
I wanna escape with every weapon eventually
supple field
ive escaped with every weapon, but i havent done any pacts with coronacht yet
cobalt maple
there's surprising amount of boons that let you facetank efficiently
hollow hazel
I think my first ever win was attempt 27. I'd have to double check though, after that I succeeded with like, a 20 clear streak before the update for heat was done so that I could use any heat for the next reward, and then I lost and nabbed an occasional clear.
gusty slate
My favorite build is dodge, why facetank when it can't touch you
supple field
im torn rn, idk if i should continue increasing heat with varatha or do my first heat escape with coronacht, especially cause it has the bonus darkness and gems rn
golden adder
question: do the bought tracks only have vocals when the singers are present? Because I felt thoroughly robbed when I bought in the blood and it was instrumental 😦
supple field
i kinda wanna do the thing for skelly cause i'm at 5 heat for varatha
analog elbow
You can do any objective you want in any order you want hehe
I'm farming darkness right now, so I'm taking whichever weapon has Thirst
formal zodiac
Question here,
do the rewards for completing each underworld section apply per weapon variation or just for each weapon?
supple field
im gonna stick with varatha cause im curious as to what skelly has in store
analog elbow
Sounds good!
analog elbow
You need to play different weapons
There are 20 max bounties per weapon
After that you would need to exchange or buy them in Styx
or do prohpecies
golden adder
yeah once you get to 20, you can either do the prophecies in the fated list or use another weapon
formal zodiac
what are bounties sorry?
analog elbow
The boss rewards
formal zodiac
ok because say i have completed first boss with each weapon, so my other option to get blood would be exchange?
analog elbow
Hmm you would have to complete a run to get more blood on that weapon
warm dove
why its so hard to get Bad Newwwwwwwwwwwwww
my fate will never complete 
analog elbow
Did you use the Codex @warm dove
It tells you the prereqs
Also the mirror talent helps out a lot
zenith oxide
Dang this game is awesome! Love the song!
vapid grove
Did they make this game way harder or is ||Double Heart Double Buffs on armored foes just Stupid hard?||
zenith oxide
95 hours!
analog elbow
That pact option makes elite enemies really hard, yes
zenith oxide
gotta love the hard monsters Kilani feels good man! you gotta do more push ups before your run 😄
analog elbow
A Hermes boon I think
vapid grove
||Can we enter the second room yet?||
zenith oxide
:O!!!!!
analog elbow
Not sure
You'd have to play and see
Not sure which room you're talking about tbh lol
vapid grove
Well First room is the ||record room|| Idk a bout the other ones
Which one? @unreal vine
unreal vine
record room
analog elbow
Oooh at the house
vapid grove
I already have that one :/
gusty slate
Keep playing, you'll see
analog elbow
Keep playing 😋
unreal vine
ok show off
vapid grove
So has anything actually changed on release?
gusty slate
we have an ending
vapid grove
Do we unlock any other rooms?
unreal vine
ooooo mr got the room unlocked cool guy
gusty slate
Probably unlocked more things in the game of course
analog elbow
If you are looking to be spoiled, try asking #h1-story-discussion
Or read the patch notes to see what was added in this update without being spoiled
vapid grove
That's probably way too long ;__;
vapid grove
Do I have to play on ||heat to unlock all the new rooms-ending?||
analog elbow
So find whatever you're interested in
vapid grove
||Did we get any extra rooms with this update?||
gusty slate
Don't want to read? Listen to the dramatic reading.
analog elbow
Can't say
gusty slate
It's beautiful
analog elbow
Maybe?
analog elbow
yes
golden adder
just refer to the patch notes highlights, really
vapid grove
ah ok
vapid grove
Was the shield update a nerf or buff for ||Chaos Aspect||?
analog elbow
So why does it matter then
golden adder
have no idea either, it's kinda ambiguous
but
I could escape with zeus aspect so I guess shield is still good
vapid grove
Because I want to know? @analog elbow
vapid grove
What they changed, if it was a buff or nerf. Or if they just changed something that neither buffed or nerfed it
Or just get an instant answer if someone knows it
It might be just a slight change
It doesn't say in the patch notes
gusty slate
Some say nerf, some say better
vapid grove
What did they changed about it?
gusty slate
Throwing
golden adder
I think no one knows for sure
gusty slate
Uh, I think it's a cone shape instead of wherever now
golden adder
except what the patch notes say
vapid grove
Your throw is a cone shape?
gusty slate
Haven't tested personally.
vapid grove
Throwing a single shield is a cone shape?
golden adder
no, chaos aspect throws multiple
last bobcat
Am I crazy or can I hear the difference between Zag lines recorded post-quarantine (at home) and in the studio
golden adder
I don't know which are which so I have no basis for comparing them haha
supple field
^
last bobcat
Neither did I, but I can guess based on one story event that happened
sacred nymph
cursed knowledge 
last bobcat
Like I said I might be completely off the rails
marsh jackal
Old chaos shield threw one straight and the rest were thrown from any angle
marsh jackal
So I’d say aoe damage is less but you get to aim where you want
tawny light
SGG should revert it
plush flax
If I remember the history of Chaos Shield right, it was originally a frontal cone pattern. SGG changed it to a starburst because people using the through as a melee attack to shotgun things for way too much damage. Then 1.0 they changed it back to a cone, because now people were just dashing into groups of enemies without having to actually aim it
last bobcat
What aspect do you use? I always use chaos
marsh jackal
I haven’t tested our new chaos
last bobcat
I dislike the slowness of the ||Hidden Aspect||
tawny light
Watching chaos shield be chaotic was super fun thougj
marsh jackal
I don’t have a set shield aspect I’m fond of yet
I just pick what I’m feeling like at the time
plush flax
Hidden aspect is a LOT better if you can get the hammer upgrade that turns the bull rush into a charged shot. basically becomes ||a better Hera bow||
marsh jackal
I definitely agree with that
golden adder
I like the hidden aspect, but not for melee attacks
I just use the throw since it does the same damage as melee (and that means a LOT of damage)
shield goes brrr
marsh jackal
The melee attack (on hidden aspect) is like the one thing I wish i had every where
As much as I enjoy basic shield attack, I’d say it’s too reliant on Poseidon
plush flax
It's also absolutely busted with Ares
marsh jackal
Can hidden aspect work with hunting blades?
marsh jackal
Ah okay
stuck condor
Man I cna't choose god or weapon upgrade lol
marsh jackal
What have you leveled so far?
covert ingot
Can anyone please tell me where I can make a bug report?
last bobcat
@covert ingot Pressing F10 ingame should bring up a report menu
IDK if it still works out of Early Access
golden adder
it works
covert ingot
Ahh. @last bobcat I'll try. I have an image I wanted to upload with the report. It's a steam big picture issue.
golden adder
not in my case when the game literally froze, but then I reported it on tech support
but usually you use f10
last bobcat
Right. I believe in big picture it works. and the reporter automatically screencaps i think
I only play the game in big picture
and it worked for me
granite ether
if you're on switch, making bug reports is done either through the 'contact us' patch on their website or through #h1-tech-support (just be sure to specify it's a bug on the switch version)
raven horizon
I don’t know whether or not I love or hate asphodel
supple field
i really hate the magma :C
covert ingot
Kl kl. Thanks guys.
formal zodiac
Using the Lambent Plume, it says completing rooms in a short time but doesnt specify the time can anybody clarify?
surreal kelp
Hermes: Fast means speed haha COZ
golden adder
the lambent plume shows the timer as a circle above it when fighting
formal zodiac
thanks raff ill look out for that
golden adder
the time varies depending on the chamber I think
but you can always use the circle to check
marsh jackal
@stuck condor yeah those are boons and buffs
I’d just say play with whatever and find out what you like to use there are optimal choices but in most circumstances in hades you can play with almost anything with success
stuck condor
I been playing it just hard to choose
it was herms vs weapon upgrade
game crashed..oh no hope save if fine
made steam freeze compeltely...
raven horizon
I swear, supergiant was like “I think it’s time to reveal that gods do exist, behold, our cast”
marsh jackal
What do you mean herms?
stuck condor
my bad my memory is soo bad as its full of work. The wing icon
golden adder
hopefully it is
I actually haven't had a save corruption in 10 years or so, OSses/HDs are more competent now
raven horizon
Most developers have been coding in multiple save files as a back-up system too
golden adder
lost my saves by getting my phone stolen though, can't help with that
yeah that too
supple field
im in need of more nectar but only way to get that is attempting escapes afaik :C
gusty slate
Pretty much, broker might have some dunno if werth
stuck condor
I use personal backup ontop of cloud saves
raven horizon
Kinda, yeah. You can buy them from shop keep lady in the lounge
marsh jackal
It'll come to you, I'm too in need of nectar there's a really expensive thing I want
raven horizon
But you’ll need keys for that
gusty slate
Can also ||fish||
supple field
dont think i have that unlocked yet oop
raven horizon
Enjoy your time in the game, I’ll continue escaping just to see Dusa again
cause hades likes to make her dissppear
supple field
idk why but ever since i laid eyes on achilles im like yes he's my favorite
raven horizon
For a warrior, dude is really like-able
drifting citrus
do both sides of mirror talents work at once?
raven horizon
Only one at a time iirc
supple field
it might be cause right before i bought hades, i was doing a homework assignment where i had to read a poem called The Shield of Achilles and wowee
that poem is oof
raven horizon
Though you can have one and get the other while doing a run iirc
maiden schooner
Poseidon came down as the first god of this run and handed me the legendary fishing boon >.>
golden adder
niiice
maiden schooner
I had the prerequisite boons for it in the previous run.
I think we've got a little bug on our hands lol
raven horizon
I went into Hades with not too much knowledge in Greek mythos tbh, I was always that Norse / weeb guy
But I’d definitely say it has my interest now
maiden schooner
oh?
kind moss
ye
golden adder
the first time you get it, that is
maiden schooner
huh. kay then.
warm dove
@analog elbow i knew how to get but the RNG .....
golden adder
just fought for a trove of 100 hp, lost 40 in the fight and actually won 50
helth
stuck condor
damnit it reset my save back to the house
wait you have to select the reveal buff on a weapon to be active?
elfin herald
I just bought this game and have played for an hour, and this is phenomenal.
golden adder
yeah, that happens when it crashes month :/
dunno what you mean by the reveal buff tho
stuck condor
where you use titan blood
vast rivet
-_- just lost my 41 win streak bc i got too careless with the fists hidden aspect
marsh jackal
@drifting citrus you can only use one side of the perk in the darkness tree a time, you can refund the tree at the cost of some keys though
junior galleon
i am so mad
i tried to do use the egg
used it the whole run
0 chaos gates
golden adder
yeah you need to have the aspect selected for it to be active
drifting citrus
@marsh jackal yeah ik. The old system was better, you could add and remove at will :/
especially since almost all the alternatives just aren't good
marsh jackal
I liked the old system too but this one is faster if you want to reset a whole tree
golden adder
it costs one key though for me
drifting citrus
or just be able to move darkness from one side to the other for a smaller cost
it is one key yes
one key per reset i assume. It shouldn't scale.
supple field
i have so much ambrosia but no use for all of it :C
marsh jackal
I actually think I've ran out of uses for ambrosia
jade crescent
ooooof when you use the anvil thing that trades 1 hammer perk for 2 more, it's random which one it choses 😦
tidal knoll
i am on gun and have been offered 2 duo boons and support fire from artemis
and it makes me sad because i have to turn down support fire again cause duo zeus plus artemis is too good to pass up
supple field
is there a purpose to doing all the decorations the house contractor offers?
winged holly
are there statistics for # of runs it takes people to get their first victory?
(I'm curious how bad I am :D)
raven horizon
Decorations to please best girl Dusa, yes
She deserves a nice home after her adorable ness
golden adder
@jade crescent I've regretted it every single time I took it
It's only maybe worth it if you only got 1 hammer and it was a bad pick in the run
young iris
are there statistics for # of runs it takes people to get their first victory?
@winged holly I want to know this as well
golden adder
last time I got explosive shot with the hidden aspect bow
took forever to charge a shot
jade crescent
I could only see even getting a bad pick if you're going for prophecies anyways
I built entirely around the -60% HP lifesteal sword... lost it right before the final fight
golden adder
well in bad I mean bad for the thing you're doing
I had a special upgrade in the hidden aspect bow, but was building for attack damage
harsh pike
whyyy can't I play hades in offline mode in EGS AAAAGHHHH
gusty slate
You can go to the Hades folder and launch it there I believe, but EGS has cloud save :/
supple field
also about the wretched broker i went to talk to him after run 3 and i couldnt so i just assumed that i couldnt talk to that person (cause i didnt realize that hes the wretched broker) and now i feel hella stupid
harsh pike
in saved games?
tidal nest
I'm currently further than I've ever made it and all of a sudden my game froze and the program is unresponsive. Playing on PC, Epic Games Store. This happened to me once yesterday and I lost everything I had gotten on the run I was in. I have cloud save enabled which usually works great but didn't seem to work for that. Is there anything I can do?
Or do I just have to force quit and hope for the best?
agile saddle
i mean saving doesn't help mid run
gusty slate
Crashes, go to #h1-tech-fixes you can re- oh wait...
Does EGS only cloud save? or does it save on personal computer?
agile saddle
a crash is treated the same as pressing give up
manic bobcat
From today's announcement, tfw Amir Rao is only common rarity...
tidal nest
Saving has worked fine mid run for me before. I've been able to quit the game and pick up in the chamber I left off on
golden adder
try reporting it in the tech fixes, I had the same problem in the elysium boss fight
tidal nest
Also I have no clue if its only cloud save or not lol
agile saddle
you can quit fine but if u are mid fight or recently fished u cant quit
golden adder
but the game doesn't really save mid-runs
gusty slate
If you crash and Hades saves onto your PC you can go to #h1-tech-fixes to retrieve your last saved room in that run
golden adder
if you crash or something, it's reset to before the run
@gusty slate you can what? 😮
gusty slate
There's directions on how to do it if I recall
golden adder
no one even replied to me when I reported the game freezing
agile saddle
can you not longer hit ||Hades || with deflected skulls? they just seem to bounce off?
golden adder
they do damage when hitting him, but still fall to the ground
agile saddle
wow make skull spam even more annoying
sweet fable
golden adder
it's okay, maybe I missed something in the pinned posts too
tidal nest
For your reference, @golden adder
If Your Game Crashes and You Lose Progress
If something happens and you start the game and find your save data missing, chances are it can still be recovered. Please follow these steps:
· Navigate to \Documents\Saved Games\Hades
· Sort by 'Date modified' to locate your most recent save matching one of these names (assuming you use Save Slot 1): Profile1_Temp.sav, Profile1_Temp.sav.bak, or Profile1.sav.bak
· Rename that file to Profile1.sav
· Then open the Play menu in-game and look for the save.
gusty slate
I guess we don't really say tech fixes off the bat because of new fellow switch peeps. They can't fix ;-;
golden adder
thank you!
gusty slate
It's a trade secret
fallow kayak
Holy moly do the voice lines ever end? This is amazing
golden adder
did the big rats get changed recently? they're smearing poison everywhere
fallow kayak
How many unique voice lines does this game have?
golden adder
if I had to take a guess, more than 1000?
gusty slate
too many to count... some N factorial probably
buoyant merlin
bro Super Giant just RANKED their staff in the announcement ouch no one puttin my ass in common that's for sure
gusty slate
?
buoyant merlin
I'd be blue or above at least
buoyant merlin
I'm a d hammer
coral verge
anyone find the Title sound way too loud compared to ingame?
buoyant merlin
YES it scares the crap out of me everytime
lots of shows have their intro at like twice the volume (my theory is so that it alerts other people in the house that the show is on)
but it's loud af
reef pasture
does anyone know where/if anyone has standalone pictures of the chibi icons, and the featured house servant board pictures?
gusty slate
That's usually a Tatz question
reef pasture
not sure where to find them and how to extract them
gusty slate
Well. At least I feel like tatz is the one to bother XD
reef pasture
@narrow hemlock any idea? you've been suggested to ping 🙂
gusty slate
If I'm wrong I'm about to face the wrath of Ares
ohno ohitworked
golden adder
companion tatz was upgraded
gusty slate
Dodge build OP
narrow hemlock
gusty slate
Have mercy
gusty slate
It's only bad if you don't believe
gusty slate
Rocket Jumper does 0 damage too, but you don't see trolldiers giving up
fallen violet
Thats not enough with my damage
gusty slate
(well I hope that's tf2 soldier there)
buoyant merlin
Am I crazy or ||are there no mention of the titans in this game? Are they saving this for a giant (pun) update?||
gusty slate
blood
golden adder
there is
golden adder
the gods mention they killed them
buoyant merlin
||could imagine them being added and their boons being more powerful but also having a downside chaos style||
Maybe super giant did that so they'd have less characters to complicate stuff lmao
super giant games
||no titans||
gusty slate
Zag: "Is that... this boon looks.. unusual, cracked?"
buoyant merlin
the boon is the smash brothers logo
he touches it and then smash zag gameplay ensues to a orchestra remix of good riddance
golden adder
Zagreus
gets killed again
gusty slate
Just gotta do some Fated Persuasion
indigo plover
do u have to beat hades to use titans blood
gusty slate
once unlocked do a run
gusty slate
Should be
buoyant merlin
Lord K Rool this Ambrosia is fools gold compared to the shining achievement that is your belly, but I hope you'll accept anyway
raven horizon
Could you imagine Zag IN smash though?
hollow hazel
man that was good. beat the game in 6 runs. Has anyone ever beaten the game on the tutorial run?
barren plover
I'd rather the Furies
buoyant merlin
Easily. Any character from a game that has a lot of weapons is easy to put in smash because you could make each weapon one of the B specials
The up B would have to be ||dash upper||
gusty slate
😮
buoyant merlin
neat
barren plover
Give it ||Talos Aspect||
narrow hemlock
maja and i squinted at it for a good half hour trying to read it lol
gusty slate
Intriguing
narrow hemlock
i posted it in spoilers somewhere bc alma asked about it, let me try and find it
gusty slate
So why do you do neg damage?
fallen violet
My run is actually bad
Doing fists run
My special is supposed to be doing work
its not
Just didnt get many good boons
this time
gusty slate
Big Redacted will be ezpz
fallen violet
true
narrow hemlock
i reposted it over in spoilers 
gusty slate
You got this 👍
supple field
can i have the chibi icons as well👉 👈
buoyant merlin
lmaoo
gusty slate
Need those pinned somewhere.
gusty slate
You haven't seen tatz use them
narrow hemlock
i use nitro hax 
narrow hemlock
also photoshop went wonky on me earlier when i was rendering arty icon and i wanted to scream
functional program
supple field
tatz pls hmu too o:
narrow hemlock
i should be finishing rendering but my hand is cramping so im just lurking here now lmao
narrow hemlock
theres nothing more torturous than going into the last fight with a bad build and going 'is this enough' lol
narrow hemlock
woof
gusty slate
ezpz
narrow hemlock
i forgot what my last streak was at before i nuked it ):
raven horizon
I swear every time I get to the unique area in asphodel I never want to leave lol
spare ridge
I swear every time I get to the unique area in asphodel I never want to leave lol
@raven horizon u mean ||Eurydice||
if so same
twilit nimbus
How cool would it be if the devs were able to add KRATOS as a boss in Hades!!! I know this is wishful thinking but imagine Zagreus vs Kratos in Hades... You walk in and he says "I Am What The Gods Have Made Me!"
barren plover
Eh no thanks, this is a much better depiction of Greek Mythology.
spare ridge
i mean
shovel knight did it
i know it’s incredibly far fetched anyway but just pointing it out
tired dirge
I didn't know where to put this, but let me know if I need to delete this. I bought the Soundtrack back a while ago when it only had 23 tracks. Now it has 30 and steam will not let me repurchase it to get all 30 tracks. Is there a way to get all the tracks through steam?
reef pasture
@tired dirge double check that Steam didn't auto-update and the new tracks are there (you may have to re-download the files)
tired dirge
@reef pasture I'll check that now. thank you!!
solar scarab
pine anvil
Hi, can I ask a question here?
marsh jackal
go ahead
pine anvil
Sorry if I offend anyone, when will this game be on sale again? I bought Rocket League for my little brother today not knowing it was going free soon lol
marsh jackal
it shouldn't ever be free but SG is likely to have sales for hades in the future
pulsar nymph
My guess would be the next time it goes on sale will be during the winter sales event
marsh jackal
to my knowledge hades has been discounted 3/4 times since it's release
pine anvil
Ah around Christmas most likely?
supple field
i think i bought at full price and honestly it's definitely worth it
marsh jackal
I think I got it for 15
pulsar nymph
Yeah, probably around Christmas
marsh jackal
really early on, like the second patch of hades
pine anvil
Ok, Christmas a is good time span lol. by then I'll save up again. Thanks, everyone.
golden adder
rocket league is really old so since Hades just launched, I can't see it becoming free any time soon
sales could happen tho
pine anvil
I think RL is going free in some days, I'm only now reading about it. I bought it for this morning so he played waaay more than the two hours lol
marsh jackal
SG also really enjoys doing bundle sales for their games so that's another possibility in the future
pulsar nymph
Actually, for me it's showing that hades is $5 off on steam rn
reef pasture
you can email Steam and ask for a refund saying that you did not know it was going F2P next week @pine anvil if they auto-deny, just ask again and try to get to a human representative
gusty slate
Yeah 20% launch sale
reef pasture
as long as ur brother doesnt play much longer they might allow it
pine anvil
Yea its 20 dolloars in my stroe as well
gusty slate
but yeah you can wait it out if that works better
pine anvil
@reef pasture He has 4hours in the game already, but I'll try what you suggested, thanks
gusty slate
Good luck!
pine anvil
Yea I'll wait it out. thanks guys
supple field
jk i bought it during the current sale that's still going on right now
golden adder
urgh, I played so much last weekend that when I tried today, I just couldn't dodge anything and died at the end
break time
carmine ravine
actually he does take breaks
final lagoon
aight supergiant is actually nuts
there's specific dialogue for when you've fought the first boss with the extreme measures pact, turned it off, and come back
gusty slate
Ye
maiden copper
And different ones for each sister
carmine ravine
theres the same thign with the third
barren ocean
I've just put together that Dusa is short for Medusa
I cant believe I didnt realize
Lmaooooooo
supple field
analog elbow
30 is the magical number
supple field
its ok, i didnt realize until run 10 or so that the symbols above the doors means something
young gust
Is there a list of best god Boons for each weapon?
Like maybe Artemis is best for the bow, etc.
barren ocean
I think it depends on your play style
young gust
I guess I haven’t found him lol
wise sparrow
who are some youtubers that play on really high heat and use varied builds and post regular content
supple field
i think kuroui means demeter
young gust
Do the gods you pick affect the other boons you get?
barren ocean
Boons are god specific
fading gazelle
Kind of?
supple field
:C i was so close to doing a perfect infernal gate then a stupid witch bubble thing hit me
young gust
I noticed posieden said something about my Zeus boon
barren ocean
Like Hermes is all about speed
Athena gives you deflection stuff
Etc etc
Oh yea none of the gods like each other
Lmao
young gust
What’s your fav weapon?
barren ocean
Uhh spear
fading gazelle
Gods can give boons called Duos, where they would give a boon that correlates with another god
barren ocean
I'm blanking on the name
analog elbow
Varatha
young gust
Do you throw it the whole time?
fading gazelle
Varatha
barren ocean
Lmao no I almost never throw it
young gust
I only played it once. But I just threw it the whole time
barren ocean
That's personal preference again tho
young gust
😂
barren ocean
Lmao fair
young gust
When you upgrade with the blood
supple field
i really like the triple jab for varatha
young gust
Can you only have one of those on at a time?
barren ocean
Stab stab stab
barren ocean
^
fading gazelle
Hades
brisk trail
Question
fading gazelle
Shoot
barren ocean
You can get more
brisk trail
If you are using the shattered shackle, what constitutes as a boon. All boons, or just the skill modifier boons
fading gazelle
Boons that directly influence your Strike, Special, Cast or Dash. Boons that go there are called core boons. So if that slot is empty, shattered shackle will buff it. Even though Chaos gives boons that boost attack, special, etc, they do not count as core boons
analog elbow
Just the skill modifiers
brisk trail
Just for clarity, only the core boons disqualify you for the effects, like deflect
smoky halo
how many uh necters does cerberus take?
jade crescent
when I fully max a character in hearts, their trinket gets a badge looking thing, what does that mean?
carmine ravine
full bond
narrow hemlock
just a show of ur love for ur friends 
jade crescent
it doesn't improve the item at all?
carmine ravine
nope
smoky halo
depends on the item
drifting thicket
Can we get a survival mode. That would be sick. I would never stop playing this absolutely amazing game
native orbit
So, I just finished my second run in a row, dying at the final boss, having never seen a strike boon
vapid dirge
RNG be like that sometimes.
tulip acorn
Hello everyone, was wondering how a few boons worked with an aspect (currently in the middle of an insanely lucky run, wanna make sure I finish it right). Currently using the Aspect of Zeus Aegis and was wondering how the Artemis Boon Supporting Fire worked with it. Do I have to cast Special for an arrow to fly out? Or will they fly out as long as Aegis is doing dmg and stuff?
Bc rn I have Aspect of Zeus, Doom on special, and Doom Stacking Damage along with Demeter cast, so I want to make sure I am not wasting any future boons
torn olive
Hey everyone, I recently started playing again (had since EA release but hadn't played since Aug 2019) and I was wondering if it is better to start completely fresh or if my old save will still have the story elements cohesively? Thanks in advance
limber pelican
Hey, my hades progress from beta got deleted during launch for some reason who do I contact, I have no idea
analog elbow
Start fresh, a lot was changed/added since then @torn olive
tulip acorn
HAHAHA I AM ASO GETTING IT
Agreed @torn olive, prob start new
@limber pelican Please check #h1-tech-fixes for a list of known fixes to common problems, and how to get more assistance.
analog elbow
Did you check your Hades folder Shmu?
hoary canopy
Dont forget to verify who knows maybe thats all you need
median sluice
wooo. first hades kill. with the spear
tulip acorn
Ayyyyyy nice!
analog elbow
Congrats!
tulip acorn
XDDDDDDD
median sluice
haha no its fine i was gonna find out in 3 seconds anyway
solar abyss
Hey, I played for an hour and a half and even unlocked two achievements, but now I'm playing again and I have no save! Wtf?
tulip acorn
Is there anywhere to check what boons u beat hades w/ on a specific run?
analog elbow
The admin room
median sluice
ah well got him down to 25
analog elbow
check #h1-tech-support @solar abyss
tulip acorn
Awww so close. Good job getting to it though! I beat Hades first time 2 days ago, and with my current build, I can hopefully crush him this time.
Just keep grinding
torn olive
@analog elbow Hmm ok, ill give it a shot to see. I just got to hades on my old file for the first time and was curious if there was a lot of story stuff added in the parts that i am now passed. I am just unsure how long it will take to grind the darkness to get back to where i am in my old one
analog elbow
Not sure how much you had back then, but the game's come a looong way since
torn olive
Yeah I cant see how much total i have either, it used to show the full amount but now it only shows what i have unspent
analog elbow
How much do you have unspent?
torn olive
analog elbow
Oh hmm that's not too much
torn olive
That's kinda where im sitting at, not like suuuuper stacked by any means
torn olive
Alrighty, sounds good! I have most of the gifts from everyone ive met on this so if its not that many runs then ill give it a go
analog elbow
Personally, if I were you, considering you haven't played since Aug 19, I would start fresh
But I can understand you not wanting to grind
torn olive
Word, appreciate the time friend
marsh jackal
Why would you want to start fresh?
torn olive
I haven't played since aug 2019 for context, and so i was curious how long itd take to catch back up etc @marsh jackal
analog elbow
The final boss was probably the hydra back then
analog elbow
You're gonna be pleasantly surprised then hehe
marsh jackal
It wouldn't take long to make up your spot
analog elbow
Have fun and good luck with the runs!
torn olive
but i had played when meg was around, and the bull and whats his nuts
i just blanked on his name
analog elbow
Theseus?
torn olive
yeah
analog elbow
gotcha
marsh jackal
Especially if you haven't done much of the nectar gifting
torn olive
I had only done like, one gift per person id met
analog elbow
Oh okay, that's not very much
torn olive
and i think i still havent met one cthonic god that was new
marsh jackal
Yeah you're in a spot where I'd estimate it'd take a day or two of playing
to catch up
assuming you only play a couple hours each day
torn olive
yeah im missing one olympian, one cthonic and 3 others of note
marsh jackal
You'd probably catch up on everything minus the keys for the mirror of night
in two days
torn olive
yeah between other games and this it shouldnt be too bad if i have both of ya attesting to it
appreciate it again
analog elbow
Best of luck!
torn olive
so my total darkness was 4080, i just used a key to see
analog elbow
Ah that's not very much at all
terse geyser
that's a very small amount of darkness indeed
marsh jackal
Yeah I just hit max skill tree at 18 or so thousand
It might actually take you longer than 2 days to make 4,000 darkness unless you just grind hades for two days
tulip acorn
Anyone know how to see your build for previous completed runs? Is there a function for that>?
supple field
administrative chamber
analog elbow
Play some more, there is something down the road that lets you view those, yes
tulip acorn
hmm okay, thank you
analog elbow
It's not too far into a new save
Not sure how far along you are
Maybe you need to win before that tho, not sure sorry
You could check the wiki if you're dying to know, just look for what river wrote
brisk trail
smoky halo
gotta get the uh pool for that i think
tawny lintel
awesome, appreciate it
daring niche
is the echivment "Something From Everyone"
Unlock each standard Keepsake
smoky halo
it tells you the number of atempts
daring niche
does not work?
forest meadow
god mode doesn't disable achievements, does it? lmao
forest meadow
ah alright thats good
forest meadow
yeah
i am scrub
but lets me vent after schoolworks done and take it a bit easy
be experimental and chase items, story stuff, etc.
daring niche
as long as ur having fun
forest meadow
yeah for sure
smoky halo
i have escaped 3 times in 33 runs i think
daring niche
5 in 29 i think
tulip acorn
Finally, just got second escape
raw cape
is it just me or have the odds of a 2 sack decreased a lot?
terse geyser
it's just you
some others have been commenting on how they suddenly only ever get 2sacked
100% luck
raw cape
Atleast with new tight deadline not getting a 2 sack isnt that bad :D
terse geyser
yeah I could probably eat a 5sack on most runs now lol
terse geyser
depends on the weapon of course
remote nebula
fists
terse geyser
but doom is very good
grand quartz
What does chill do?
supple field
i either go for doom or hangover on attack
onyx wave
question is it possible that my rng is just so bad that I haven't been able to fight the minotaur as a mid boss for 20 runs in a row?
terse geyser
if you get doom attack and athena special and dash, you can get Merciful End and get doom ticks of 90
at common, level one
on every dash-strike
if you level doom or get a higher rarity it's even more damage
brisk trail
https://imgur.com/a/gRLBod3
are these things used automatically?
terse geyser
so yeah, doom on attack can get pretty good
remote nebula
gotcha, thanks
terse geyser
@brisk trail yeah, those are passive effects. they tick down on every encounter
remote nebula
would you say doom is better than chain lightning on attack? for fists
raw cape
is athena dash still a viable pre-req for merciful end?
terse geyser
you have increased move speed, attack damage, and a chance to get healing items from slain enemies
and a chaos curse, all of which will last as many encounters as the number beside their icons
is athena dash still a viable pre-req for merciful end?
@raw cape no, it still procs it but doesn't let you see the boon
supple field
whats athena dash again
terse geyser
you need athena attack or special to see it
cinder lichen
...What if Hades had cooperative play?
terse geyser
divine dash; it's the one that deflects
supple field
ah i love that one
peak fern
I wish it had co-op but idk how it could be explained in the story
terse geyser
would you say doom is better than chain lightning on attack? for fists
@remote nebula yes, doom is in fact a higher single-target dps damage boost than lightning
terse geyser
and since it applies to every enemy you hit, it's probably better than lighting for mobs as well
peak fern
Maybe Thanatos or meg are fighting along side him and he lets them use his weapons?
terse geyser
co-op would probably be awful tbh
tulip acorn
@terse geyser, I ended up getting too aggressive with Merciful end, so I had to block into bull rush to proc the effect. So a bit of both, ME and block abusing.
cinder lichen
Eh...I think Doom would be better for Gaunt's Special
terse geyser
I would hate having someone else messing up my combos and/or stealing my kills
tulip acorn
Doom is great if you can find the stacking effect if u have doom on the attack
terse geyser
see: thanatos encounters
cinder lichen
Redacted gets beat by twice the firepower
terse geyser
co-op would be even worse
tulip acorn
Hate thanatos, does 9k dmg, so dumb :/
tulip acorn
Sorry, I miscliked, typing on phone
raw cape
thanatos becomes a super desirable room cause the timer stops.
cinder lichen
god, no-
tulip acorn
I'll change ir
raw cape
plus out killing him isnt too had once you get the hang of the game
terse geyser
Eh...I think Doom would be better for Gaunt's Special
@cinder lichen nope, if you have it on the attack you can proc it with every single dash-strike if you have athena dash and ME
cinder lichen
What's ME again
terse geyser
@raw cape it's not hard to outkill him, it's just annoying to see him unless you're in a reeeeaaally tight time crunch
tulip acorn
Merciful end
terse geyser
because his encounters are so dang long
tulip acorn
Ares athena duo
cinder lichen
Eh, I'm glad to see him
I get an extra room reward
terse geyser
ares athena
tulip acorn
Thank you
terse geyser
not aphrodite
cinder lichen
Oh yeah. That's true I suppose
tulip acorn
Ya i changed
peak fern
Yeah I like his rooms too for the max health.
cinder lichen
snrk
I still feel like I should mention the New Aspect's trait is compatible with ||Ares|| and ||Aphrodite's|| duo. Damage isn't even affected either.
peak fern
I have to admit, even though I really enjoy Thanatos, that face of his unnerves me
raw cape
the new aspect and ruthless reflex is probably my new favorite thing
cinder lichen
It gives me a chuckle
raw cape
easily my fav fist aspect
cinder lichen
Dude! They work very well together!
terse geyser
haven't seen the new fists yet, but for literally any of the old ones it's better to have doom on attack
cinder lichen
It's a based tactic
terse geyser
if what I hear is right it's still great with doom on attack
peak fern
I don’t care for the new fists, even though they seem cool. Maybe with practice I’ll appreciate them
raw cape
You can get some pretty good dps with athena dash + expose and any attack boon
just gotta get comfortable holding the dash and attack button together the whole run lmao
cinder lichen
They're pretty alright. It's like ||an extra stack of that one Cast effect. On top of some hefty Doom||
peak fern
Yeah that’s my favorite thing about them
Not a big fan of the maim mechanic, the dash special feels weird
raw cape
||it is a bit weird just cause it's an input I'm not familiar with but remapping the special button can help.||
tulip acorn
Using fists rn and have demeter special, should I go demeter attack, dash, or while I have no casts, take 10% less dmg and deal 20% more?
cinder lichen
What's your Soul like?
raw cape
which aspect @tulip acorn
cinder lichen
(Stygian or Infernal?)
tulip acorn
Stygian
peak fern
I’d say dash
raw cape
and do you have privileged status?
tulip acorn
No, getting more keys to unlock that
cinder lichen
I'd go with the latter regardless of aspect. A good amount of the cast-related boons in the game are so stacked against Stygian Soul users...
Wait
No not the cast one
Don't go for the cast one
I just read "Stygian" finally x_x. Call me Percy 'cause I'm dyslexic.
tulip acorn
Well, stygian is the base fists right?
raw cape
I'd say attack boon if you dont have priv status
zagreus is the base fist aspect.
stygian is the mirror talent (cast regen)
cinder lichen
Attack or Dash.
peak fern
I always try to get two different status effects on attack and special
cinder lichen
Infernal is Additional, Stygian is Regeneration
I suppose with Tess's statement, Dash
Even though I get burnt a lot I reserve my attack/special slots for different effects
raw cape
woops. edited to fix my mistake
hollow hazel
Did Alecto's voice get changed?
tulip acorn
Thanks!
final lagoon
note to self: ||do not borrow money from charon||
terse geyser
it's the only way to get a ||loyalty card|| though
100% worth
supple field
i got rekt two seconds after i pressed e the first time i tried it and i haven’t dared to ||steal from charon since||
green wave
Ok so I came here because I couldn't find what I was looking for on reddit or youtube. There is a voice line from ||Patroclus|| where when you enter the chamber ||he says something along the lines of living a peaceful life instead of living for those who you will never know|| I have been looking everywhere for the voice line and figured yall might have some resources to help?
terse geyser
it didn't last long but it sure felt like it did
@green wave the guy who would be most likely to be able to help with that is unfortunately sleeping
but there is still some hope
daring niche
is the pact of punishmant rly going up by only 1 heat at a time?...
green wave
Dang, @terse geyser is there a chance they will see my question? Or should I ask again later?
terse geyser
@daring niche you can push it up by as much as you want
you get bounties from the lowest uncompleted level no matter what difficulty you're running
so go for options that look fun!
daring niche
yeah i know
terse geyser
pushing one at a time is boring
terse geyser
@green wave it is possible that someone else has the dialogue handy
fathom falcon
Uh, guys, can u help me? Ive got every companion except one from ||Than||. Is there any requirements to give him an ambrosia? Every single time he appeared in house there was no option to do this.
terse geyser
but if it hasn't been answered in 9 hours and you still care I can probably get it for you
@fathom falcon do more runs. It's locked by either troll RNG or a story event
fathom falcon
uh rng sucks
green wave
I've been searching for two days since I heard it honestly xD but also thank you!
cyan idol
waxen hornet
uh rng sucks
It's also the god we have to pray to, to get anything done in this game
fathom falcon
Maybe its locked cuz Ive already romanced ||Meg||? Im just desperate
terse geyser
it's unaffected by what you mentioned
fathom falcon
100 runs and no damn dialogs. He just appears on run, kills somebody and says bye. Damn
it's unaffected by what you mentioned
Ok, but still
green wave
jeez I only have like 33 runs
terse geyser
uhhh
if you've been grinding than dialogue for 100 runs that's a bug
I assume you're exaggerating?
fathom falcon
I can give u a screenshot
terse geyser
if you're just on a high number of runs then you're good
fathom falcon
nah, maybe its really a bug. Cuz like nothing happends lol
Maybe i should just start an another save
Or farm much more yeaaa-
brisk trail
I've beaten the ||bull of minos|| on first attempt
chilly pawn
is there anywhere that I can check back my previous victory stats?
brisk trail
with ||shield||
terse geyser
shield is not a spoiler my guy
fathom falcon
is there anywhere that I can check back my previous victory stats?
||Admin chamber||
terse geyser
@chilly pawn there is an unlock from the house contractor
terse geyser
it is locked behind a story event though
you should see it pretty soon if you're asking about previous victories though
chilly pawn
hmm okay
terse geyser
it's locked behind a relatively small number of runs iirc
echo hedge
Hi does the switch version support pc saves
chilly pawn
i assume that's what cross-saves do?
terse geyser
cross-saves aren't available yet
chilly pawn
how do u sensor text in discord?
fathom falcon
it's locked behind a relatively small number of runs iirc
less than 30 i guess
hollow hazel
jfc fists cannot carry on their base damage alone, I got so screwed over on boons, I'm so dead. This is frustrating
Hate when RNGesus wants you to die
cinder lichen
Eh, I feel like your attack for the gauntlets are more for build-up utility (Demeter, Zeus, Dionysus, Ares), while the uppercut better for total damage (Poseidon, Aphrodite, Artemis, Demeter).
hollow hazel
I'm over here having to hit with all 5 punches to do 125 damage.
My uppercut isn't much better. doing like, 60 or something per hit
not even 60 lol
cinder lichen
Hammers really help any weapons' base damage
Also what are your Boons my guy?!
hollow hazel
my dash strike is the one doing 60 lol.
cinder lichen
wh
What happened to you?! You're giving me the same vibes I got when I had like 1% movespeed with a Bow!
hollow hazel
cast does 180 with festive fog, dash strike does 77% more damage with crit, I have Artemis Call, second wind and greatest reflex from hermes, proud bearing from athena, frost strike, which is supposedly raising my damage by 68% but it doesn't feel like it seeing as each punch is doing 25 damage and frost flourish which is supposedly raising my special damage by 60%
draining cutter, concentrated knuckle, and colossal knuckle, both of which I got from an anvil
Doesn't seem like it's being affected though, I'm wondering if my run is bugged or something lol
hollow hazel
I'm down to my last DD I've been going through ALL the chambers in styx to HOPEFULLY find a shop to restock a DD, I'm on, presumably, the last chamber of the second to last hall, and have not seen a single shop in the entire floor.
Originally I just thought that I had a bad boon build, but looking at all the details, I feel like I should be doing more damage then I am lol
hollow hazel
Maybe it is just trash boons lol. My uppercut does 48 each hit, my punch combo is 210, I think that comes down to 42 per hit, my dashstrike deals 61.
Lol, I think I just got trash boons
cinder lichen
Is...25 damage 70% more damage than 15? That doesn't sound right...
hollow hazel
possibly. 100% of 15 would be 30 so I think it might be.
dusk mantle
Shield is so much better than all other weapons.
Playing with any other weapon feels like difficulty cranked up by 10.
hollow hazel
I mean, you're not wrong, and a couple deadalus upgrades make it ridiculous with the right set up. I like a challenge personally though lol
terse geyser
any weapon and build can work
granite ether
Personally I find shield more of a challenge to play over something like malphon, but it's also a difference in playstyle
As Lysol says, any weapon is viable 
terse geyser
just try new stuff and you'll definitely find something new and interesting
hollow hazel
it's official, I have gone through the entirety of styx and not found a single shop.... I found ONE fountain to sell boons at, and that was it.... in the ENTIRETY of styx.... I'm so done lol
brisk trail
How do i unlock the aspect of guan yu? I've beaten hades more than 10 times now.
hollow hazel
RNG wanted me to die.
granite ether
Check the pins in #h1-story-discussion @brisk trail
brisk trail
Thanks @granite ether
ripe nymph
lets go
granite ether
No worries ^_^
sterile frigate
i finally reached, who i assume is, the final boss. any tips?
frosty pawn
How do you unlock the aspect system? I've beaten the game once
sterile frigate
weapon aspects? buy all the weapons
vapid dirge
Aspects are unlocked when you have all base weapons available to you. So, you are probably missing a weapon.
frosty pawn
I have them all tho :o
vapid dirge
OH, you're asking how to access the aspects menu!
frosty pawn
Yeah
vapid dirge
After selecting a weapon, press the button again while still facing the selected weapon, and you should be able to see the aspects menu for that weapon.
frosty pawn
Thank you lmao I feel dumb for something so simple
sterile frigate
any tips for fighting final boss before i fight him?
bright pine
run a lot. watch the ground